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>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release
<DogFart> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be EU on release
<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release

Old >>582122778
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He won.
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>>582141464
No, we won.
Forever.
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good night bros, but first: sex with the poster below me.
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There is no way this shit is making it to live
the roots and disarms and slows and disorients are acceptable but this is crossing a line
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>>582141307
>Playing PvE lets me dodge both asmonbald AND the cancerous /vg/ guilds.
Holy fucking based this might actually be good.
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>religious zealots
>the leader dress sluttier than anyone else in classic wow.
What did Metzan and co mean by this?
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>>582141605
It's not staying at a 6s cooldown that's for sure.
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>lazily steals from Ascension with SoD
>people are excited and numbers are up during Phase 1
>completely fuck up the balancing
>paladins, shamans and druids literally unkillable
>final secret boss in Molten Core is a fucking meatball
>Phase 2 bleeds players
>completely ruin the economy and leveling process
>complete abandonware when Phase 4 arrives

>lazily steal from Turtle and Epoch
>people are excited and numbers are up
>completely fuck up the balancing
You are here <-

The cracks are already starting to show
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>>582141605
6s mortal strike for hunters, here we go
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>>582141605
brownoids on suicide watch
we get to watch that is
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>>582141605
>Duration longer than CD
Yeah damn that's cancer, not removable either like wound poison is
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Rate my plan to save Wow Forever
>Give Rogues Shadowstep
>Give Hunters Disengage
>Give Warriors 3 charge of Charge
>Make Shamans be able to cast Lightning Bolt while moving and while in Ghost Wolf form
>Give Mages 3 charge of Blink
>Give Paladins Divine Steed
>Give Warlocks Burning Rush and Demonic Circle
>Give Priests Angelic Feather
>Give Druids Displacer Beast
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>>582141636
Why not just try RP? That's what I'm doing.
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>>582141642
He wanted us to have sex with her?
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>warlocks fly under the radar despite continually getting tons of love over a long period of time
wow maybe this really is retail
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>>582141708
>r*t niggerdin shitter makes a wow game
>it's bad
who could've seen that coming
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>>582141605
who the fuck makes this shit up
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>>582141605
Funny how everyone was hyping up Lone Wolf until they saw the new pet abilities
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>>582138886
https://files.catbox.moe/7fcvko.png

this will have to do
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Is there a single cisgender heterosexual man who mains a healer?
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>>582141879
me
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>>582141605
You're playing a literal funserver.

>let's take warrior's only niche in PvP and give it to a ranged class who can spam it so the debuff is active...FOREVER
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>>582141307
Sneed is back on the menu
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Am I one of the only people who leveled as one spec but always had a secondary gear set in my bag for another spec when leveling? Like my Druid always had some Int/Spirit Cloth gear when I needed to main heal.
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>>582141910
Yeah
Me
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>>582141910
No
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reminder that everyone who is dooming here and posting random shit off of wowhead hasn't even played vanilla
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>>582141809
>>Give Paladins Divine Steed
go back to retail
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>>582141605
Its all fun and giggles, until you remember that crocolisk deal tickle dmg and beside it's ability, it is worthless.
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>>582141708
>whiny pserver faggot
Don't you have a game store to shill?
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>>582141828
Not opposed to it but I don't RP myself. I have an rp name and respect it, and like seeing people do cool stuff in the world too. Just felt PvE is the safer option and one that my friends would agree more on.
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>>582141904
I think people hyping up demo sac are making the same mistake
The pet scaling are beyond busted
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can these dumb nigger warriors press sunder armor
havent grouped with a single warrior in the beta that sundered
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>>582141809
No. Back to retail with you.
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Alexensual runs this thread
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gnome pillows
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>>582142194
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>>582141985
No. I'm a human male Retribution Paladin (of the Light).

I bring Justice. Vengeance. A Holy Warrior. And I do NOT wear any dresses.
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>>582141910
Me, but I do like to post lots of anime too just like you. So ask yourself if YOU are straight.
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LEVEL UP FAST IN WOW FOREVER BEST WOW FOREVER GOLD FARM SPOTS MAKE TONS OF GOLD IN WOW FOREVER BEST LEVELING SPOTS IN WOW FOREVER TO GOLD FARM GET GREAT GEAR IN WOW FOREVER WITH THIS GREAT WOW FOREVER GOLD GRIND FARM GOLD AND EXPERIENCE IN WOW FOREVER
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>>582142149
it doesnt do dmg so they dont press it just like rogues dont press kick
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>Theres even more updates coming
>Massively enhanced weather is coming

Doomsissies status?
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>>582142252
I'm straight
I like men
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>>582142149
He wants to pvmp, not enable you to pvmp as well
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>>582142138
Well the whole hype around demo is you get a sac buff AND a demon pet at the same time.
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How is the paladin situation on alliance side?
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>lvled 3 healers(resto d/s, priest) to 20
So far the priest is the best dungeon healer but the worst at lvling, the druid is mid all around and shaman is the worst especially when shit goes down. Druid is 2nd best at open-world mob kills and shaman is the best.

Gonna make one in the PVP server, a druid. Thinking the druid is the best combination of open world pvp and dungeon healer.
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We NEED this retoilet feature in Forever WoW!!!
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the WORLD PVP is so shockingly BAD that i had to uninstall
you level up and gear up and get close to BiS to PvP and for what ???
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reminder that healers literally control you
now put the cage on and escort me through this dungeon or no more healies for you. I can replace you in a heartbeat, okay?

https://files.catbox.moe/q42owu.png
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We won
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Why does kargoz keep yawning in every forever deep dive video? Was Alex right about him?
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who turned out the lights
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If this racial does not get removed or completely reworked in the next patch it proves without a shadow of a doubt that Blizzard is getting paid off by the Chinese gold farmer mafia to keep bots around.
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>>582142283
>click on 3 dots
>not interested
Why are zoomers so bad with technology despite spending the most time with it?
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ive played every single caster dps except mage, i will NEVER play that class
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HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE LEVELING IN WOW FOREVER TRICKS AND TIPS I WISH I KNEW BEFORE LEVELING IN WOW FOREVER DON'T DO THIS BEFORE MAKING A NEW CHARACTER IN WOW FOREVER START RIGHT IN WOW FOREVER WITH THIS TIP
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>>582142481
wow
i wish that was me >.<
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>>582142481
the fate of all DPSissies
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>>582142149
It lowers my DPS. I need that rage for my Heroic Strike and Rend. I love spamming Rend on every mob and just watch my DPS rise to the sky. By the time i would get 3 stack of Sunder armor on a single target, i could have used Rend on 4 different mobs.
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*taps the sign*
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>>582142249
>hey thanks for applying to my group! we're all good on heals though, thanks
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https://files.catbox.moe/8ohcmv.jpg
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One thing I don't understand about the sky elves is how they can understand the night elf language if they've been isolated for thousands of years.
Can someone explain that to me?
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>>582142683
Does WSG even exist? I'm guessing no because I have seen nobody posting screenshots
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>>582141219
>Pulp Fiction and part of the Charleston dance
Can I get a link for reference?
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>>582141642
it is your duty as a human to repopulate lordaeron
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>>582141910
when i was pvping heavily in og wrath, legion, and wotlk classic. the best healers were just normal dudes. which is funny because your other teammates at high enough pvp were some sort of sperg but the healers were just guys being dudes. pretty funny now that i think about it
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>>582141464
did retoilets have a single response to this or did they just give up and uninstall like they were told
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>>582142798
Books
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>>582142604
These videos actually make good background noise while playing the game idk
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Feels bad everyone thinks I play a gnome for the racials. At least my horde alt (troll) is the lowest picked race and not very strong even, rip berserking
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>>582142823
https://youtu.be/WSLMN6g_Od4?t=92
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The number one thing when crafting high end bis items for resale is that there’s no competition. So the way that blizzard has limited competition for crafters in the past was by tying crafting materials to daily quests or to specific farming strategies which were incredibly confusing by the way. And it made it so there was like almost nobody doing it. In classic it wasn’t really like that I think, you could just craft any number of items as long as you could buy it from the ah. When there’s AH competition, the crafters fee goes down dramatically. Not even just by a little like you’ll actually be making almost nothing for the work. It’s also incredibly expensive to post these items on the market, you’re paying like 8 gold to list it and I’d be surprised if you’re making more than 100g. Like you’d expect it to sell eventually, maybe after a few days but the listing fee already cut into the profit. There’s like 20 of them on the market too so you can’t always have the lowest price. I didn’t like daily crafting cooldowns too much, I found that casual players easily managed to fulfil their daily craft and could easily put out items which they really shouldn’t have been able to achieve considering their skill. Daily crafting cooldowns just don’t work well in my opinion. Like sky golem always comes to mind. It took 30 fucking days to make a sky golem. And, it was barely even worth doing. Like id miss my sky golem daily and id be pissed but not angry enough to start screaming in rage. So sky golem did work but that’s because 30 days is a really long time lol that’s a huge commitment. I crafted a few of them, got like decent return but the items that took like a week to craft were complete shit and not worth my time.
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I thought forever would be a return to actual social gaming

Joined a run of hall of thanes and a run of deadmines, no one spoke a single word during the entire time except ”ty” at the end and leave.

Did a ton of quests, no one interacted beyond ”inv”, immediately leaving when they’re done even if a party member is 7/8 or whatever

Looked for a guild
>JOIN OUR TROONCORD SERVER NO WE DONT CHAT IN GAME BUT YOU HAAAAVE TO JOIN OUR TROONCORD JOIN THE VOICECHAT DOXX YOURSELF IRL BRO PLEASE HANG OUT WITH THE GROOMERS

streamer culture infesting your game due to layering and megaservers

i don’t know this does not feel like vanilla at all honestly
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>>582142792
now make them blowing a human with the human pov looking down
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reddit fag mods keep deleting this actually good video that perfectly articulates the problem with the retail models, im almost positive the mods and shills there are paid off or even worse being blindly sycophantic to delete and downvote anything being critical of blizzard, same thing happened to me when i was being critical of the lack of weather effects. its probably cheaper to pay jeet shills than let the community control the narrative that forces blizz to actually put resource into fixing glaring problems

https://youtu.be/Ex7jjjjnLkg
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>>582142909
fuck off back to wowg
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>>582142792
Butthole one was best
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Who should be the final boss of Wow Forever?
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>>582142903
They had this
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>go into PvP server thinking youre going to have fun and interesting WPvP interactions to spice up the questing
>99% of interactions are dogshit getting ganked 1v3, queers in fully juiced enchanted gear 2 shotting you, or just niggers killing players 10 levels lower than them
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>>582142798
They're immortal aren't they?

It's not like there'd be much language drift when there's no generations and they're literally the same niggas running around as back then
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>>582140391
as a tank main if there are ever any "committed" to dps warriors/rets in groups that i get invited to i say "sorry looks like you have a tank already" and immediately drop group. you motherfuckers need to tank
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>>582143070
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>>582142983
Meanwhile I've chatted to people for several minutes just because we were killing the same mobs. Let me guess... You went pvp servers? Antisocial ass people on there
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>>582142683
i fucking hate that BG
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>>582142792
Stop doing cuckshit and start doing more lesbian rimjobs if you want to save your soul
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>>582143073
cope and seethe carebear, go play PVE with all the casuals and dad gamers that dont want to get griefed out of the 30 mins their wife "lets" them play after working all day
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>>582143153
It's the worst BG, even if we include all the toilet BGs. T. Over 500k hks on main.
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>>582143070
My friend was a huge collectorfag on retail and the main reason he never wanted to return to the game was them adding way too much collectibles and it being impossible to keep up. He is coming back for Forever exactly because it's feasible to actually fill out the collection tab.
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>>582142792
>the /wowg/ LITERAL cuckslopper gets positive replies ITT
fucking rancid
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>>582143153
the only good bg is AB
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>>582143070
This faggot cancer needs to be purged, holy shit.
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PvE is casual he says when that one guy is going to crash out at the hunter for doing 1.5% less dps than the 12th dps in the 40 man raid
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I just hope blizzard fucking bans people for the use of the word ”Discord”

Discord integration should be punishable by hanging for the dev who proposed it.

Anyone who encourages the use of discord should be crushed under a hydraulic press
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>>582142953
Yeah mop had some sick crafting strategies to limit competition. They called it material shuffling, everything could be turned into another material. And if you shuffled your materials correctly and bought the cheap stuff you could actually make a lot. Was pretty confusing for noobs and also required every profession, needed to have a few max lvl toons. So that’s the kind of thing that it takes to slow down people from just winning instantly at crafting. They need to really up the difficulty or else there’s just no money to be made through crafting items for resale on the auction house. Lower level crafts actually have really good return rates for the simple fact that 50g is not a large amount, but the item is only like 20 silver to craft and you can do a bunch of them at once. High end items priced in the thousands are much more serious and way harder to find somebody willing to drop that kinda currency + a large crafters fee. Yeah basically im not very happy with endgame crafting, i think it’s possible. Something which definitely doesn’t work is raids dropping rare recipes. Because it doesn’t take long for tons of amateurs to get the thing and start selling their items for retard tier prices because they’re just shit at playing the market. That’s what happens every time.
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>>582142983
Play turtle or an RP server if you wanna talk, forever is for the autist
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>>582143070
its funny how retoilets try to pretend this isn't 100% of them but then you look at a retoilet stream or video and even the esport wannabes all have transmogs equipped.
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>>582142524
>draped top
make it a halter top, wrapped
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>>582143358
He isn't that bad because he isn't a race fetish cuck he has his OC fuck literally everything with seemingly no preferences
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you know what actually would have been a great forever change instead of whatever retarded shit popped into aggrends head

redesigning the WSG flagroom so its not complete dogshit
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>>582143393
AB is aids, it's always just people running between bases looking for fights because it's boring as piss to stand around defending. The greater objective is too high level for casual players to recognize, further causing them to randomly run around looking for shit to do.

The worst BG by a mile is AV and WSG is literally the best. WSG has a clear unambiguous objective that anyone can understand, so much so that even retards that don't care about the objective at all still end up contributing to the effort just by soaking up damage.
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>>582143063
The main character, Azeroth.
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>>582143507
why are you bringing me into this
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choli
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>>582142683
sterile and lab grown
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>>582142909
Based
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>>582143153
I prefer it over AB where always the same shit happens
>your side wins the first engagement and gets 3 flags
>retards don't defend and just try to capture more
>enemy team waltzes over your now spread out team and take the 3v2
>your team corpse runs straight from the GY to their point without grouping up and gets slaughtered piece by piece

Literal ants have better battle cohesion and strategic understanding than WoW players
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>>582142909
LVDO KINO

S O V L
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>>582143442
Yeah raiding is pretty casual feeling. You just can’t design a hardcore setting for raids probably. Because humans don’t really work that way, so listen to this. Look at a factory of sneaker stitchers all stiching the same sneaker part. Thats what humans excel at doing. In a raiding situation, it’s like we’re now going solo, together, and the end result is like we’re don’t even make a full sneaker. Or spoon smithys smithing spoons you watch them for a couple minutes and you’ll see how humans excel at smithing spoons solo, because two hands don’t necessarily increase the quality of the work. So for that reason I just go play SSF, because it’s a more hardcore environment especially when I get a sick time on my /played.
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>>582141307
avatar elves can't compete with this
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>>582142598
It's such a boring skill anyway. Why couldn't they come up with something more interesting?
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why are there so many people from retail that want to play this game is it just FOMO?
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>>582143583
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ngl I don't like wsg just because it's an awful BG while leveling and the reputation grind is downright cancerous
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>>582142946
It doesn't look like that AT ALL
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>>582143971
now give her a dick
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That one tweet feels so weird because like… oh so wow forever IS INDEED for classic players and they’ll boast about transmog being “”optional” and all this other junk about how they just love old WOW and it’s timeless artstyle….

And then we hear about how they weren’t even planing on keeping any of the old fucking models, we were just suppose to live in HD land until the streamers had to beg and plead with them not to do it. They put in something as obtuse visuals wise as Skyborne and now you’re just expected to tell apart which ones are on your side and which are on the enemy faction when you never had that problem until MoP.

It would appear that they’re doing the thing they say they’re not trying to do which is making a game that appeals to as many people as possible and their words are once again meaningless gobbledygook.
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Hi guys, I'm here to sign up for the arena team
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>>582142903
they've genuinely just been screaming and kicking and throwing a tantrum ever since and there's been a few trying to start a crusade to get this guy some kind of punishment at blizzard for saying what's painfully obvious to everyone who isn't a retarded cocksucker that wants forever to be retail 2.0
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>>582143971
I don't often make sloppa requests, but this one delivered.
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>>582143634
at least casuals get to play TDM and the game ends in a reasonable fashion
WSG turtles are consistently some of the shittest pvp in wow. They're cancer for both casuals and prems, just different types
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>>582143971
Fweckles without red hair? Weird choice.
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>>582143026
buy an ad
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Howd this fat fuck convince blizz to make a zone based on warcraft 1
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We are all in agreement to hold the line come release and not play Skyborne nor party up with any?
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>>582143442
There will always be retards out there taking casual shit way too seriously
There are competitive mario kart wii groups still running to this day
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>>582140391
If you heal in dungeons your expected to only need on the healer gear. Lots of people don't want to deal with the slightly extra pressure of being a tank or healer, as someone who always levels as a tank I hate tanking in dungeons because its like baby sitting retards constantly doing shit to fuck everything up.
99% of randoms you do dungeons with have zero concept of shit like threat or will just pull stuff on their own or do stupid shit like hot you prepull or they don't even speak english.
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>>582142571
honestly KINO, night actually being dark is one of the few things I like.
>inb4 its unintended and they "fix" it
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one change: get rid of the stupid super saiyan hair from male humans
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>>582144062
>WSG turtles are consistently some of the shittest pvp in wow. They're cancer for both casuals and prems, just different types
Thanks, I'm angry
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>>582144147
No, I have numerous Skyborne charactors planned.
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>>582143942
I kinda like it because it would stimulate my need to just click another button off cd
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>>582142481
now show the gape
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>>582144259
4e WSG just needs a 30 min timer and it'll be fixed
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>>582144052
???
all the retail players i know personally are glazing the fuck out of classic+ and planning to try it, am i just in a bubble
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>>582142904
>>582143075
Then why don't they know any other language in azeroth?
It doesn't make much sense if they've been around other races since forever and only speak the same language.
Also, in TBC, blood elves spoke thalassian and night elves spoke darnassian. That acknowledged that, over 10,000 years, languages naturally drift apart.
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>>582141708
nigga said turtle
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>>582141970
Feed and seed him
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>have some great character names planned
>no desire to pay for name reservation

anyone else just hoping they roll the dice successfully
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>>582144147
I'm playing all 9 classes and not a single one will be a troon elf
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So beta anons is it actually good?
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>>582144123
The most charisma void autistic white nerd becomes Odysseus the Orator when talking about the object of his autism.
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Has Blizz said anything over having more than just dualspec? I personally find dualspec to be too little help
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>>582144345
is that meant to be a bad thing
dont tell me you play without programmers socks
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>>582144153
THANKS FOR RUINING MY TOP 4TH POSITION PARSE BRO THANK YOU THANK YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>582144327
it's just people shitflinging back and forth on twitter don't worry about it
if you know retail players that are hyped, great, i personally have played way more retail than classic as well and i'm super psyched and don't want anything changed (except add the cata races please)
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sisters of the jeet, no matter what happens tomorrow we must stay strong. no matter if there's class fixes, bug fixes, fps fixes, anything. stay strong and shit these threads up
>jeeta out
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>Tauren balance druid LARPing as a healer and making my own dungeon groups with no mages, warlocks, or priests
>enchanting / alchemy
>Tauren beast mastery hunter
>skinning / herbalism to feed my druid materials
>RPPVP, if they add it
November 4th is so far away
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Retail had some good changes to dungeons. I think my favorite mob was it had a frontal cone aoe attack, and it had decent telegraphing. And you’d have to actually dodge it. People died to that thing constantly. Like you actually had to watch what was happening, as a dps player that’s somewhat rare to find, even in a raiding situation it’s like the addons do everything almost, and the strategy is already very planned out so there’s like no surprises. Yea, that was the only mob I think I’ve ever seen in wow that actually did something powerful in a dungeon situation. So obviously in open world, which is wows main game, there are tons of threats. They just didn’t add this type of thing to dungeons in classic for some reason. It’s an easy way to make the game more challenging, without increasing the demand to pull more mobs. I just miss smaller pulls I guess, I dunno. It feels more rpg game that way.
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Fellow rogue players, how much do we think the gnome +5 energy racial matters?
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if they don't unfuck warrior i might just start warlock instead.
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>>582143634
I had fun on AV bgs on turtle for whatever reason people actually played the game and did the side things
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>>582144550
play warrior so when they buff it back to its rightful place you will be there to claim all the loot
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What's up with the bot posts?...
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>>582144539
Mogushan palace had a boss you needed to taunt based on telegraphs
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>>582144550
bro a warrior player crying about his class being fucked up and jumping on WARLOCK is hilarious, you will literally kill yourself if you have to experience 1% of the pain a warlock feels.
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I made a gnome priest but didn't train any damaging spells other than smite
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Alliance names
>Peepo Frog
>Femboy Qt
>Fentanyl Abuser
>Arth Us
>Lordarion Smitehammer
>Peepo Clap
>Caged Andplugged
>Arth Uzsx

Horde names
>Grug
>Enrique Mage
>Sitdown Kid
>Enrique Sneaky
>Loah Mon
>Grugg Grug
>Doctor Krastinov
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>>582144546
About as little as before really. And nobody really took vigor. It being a gnome freebie is nice of course
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post more Whitemane
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>>582144656
at least warlock you can solo farm shit.
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>>582144612
Turtle ran old AV where you can't rush a win like you do in classic, the NPCs are way stronger
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I enjoy zones being populated
I don't enjoy having to fight over everything every moment for every quest
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>>582144672
I am literally staring at a Tauren named Donald Trump
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>>582143530
M+ troons and mythic raid troons are worse than mogsmountscheevos guys
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>>582144656
NTA but my main two classes are always WARrior and WARlock in the World of WARcraft.
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>>582144756
if a warrior has to sit down and farm between every 2 pulls he will still farm faster than a warlock.
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>>582144784
What do we think about the delvin' Melvins?
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I haven't played in a long time
do people really care this much about logs now? wtf is the point, what do they gain?
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>>582144784
thermonvclear tvrbotrvke
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>>582144672
I don't know how people enjoy having non RP names desu.
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>>582144546
Energy regen isn’t tick based anymore. So, it’s not really as good as it sounds. You’ll just have 5 more energy, and you’ll unlock one ability every 100 energy 5 energy quicker. It might give you another extra cast in your opener, which im assuming is what you’re hoping for. But 5 energy probably doesn’t take long to get. I guess like even .5 seconds is still decent like if you get another button out of that, that’s pretty big. Just tally up the rotation I guess and check how much energy it is.
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>>582144612
>>582144764
Turtle AV was aids, possibly the worst bg I have ever played. I grinded it to exalted to get the unstoppable force.
AV is bad for the same reason AB is bad except magnified x1000. Most people have no idea how the bg works or what the objective is so they randomly wander around looking for fights. The intended strategy for AV is way way way too high level for 40 random shitheads to all self-organize to complete.
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>>582144769
It surprises me how the first thing streamers do is find an empty layer to level, all layers do is incentive players to exploit them, not to stick together and the moment you try to play with someone they may phase out if they're not in your party
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Realm names are gone which is a shame as i liked seeing whitemane or herod as realm names
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>>582144750
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>>582144508
>>Tauren balance druid LARPing as a healer and making my own dungeon groups with no mages, warlocks, or priests
literally me... let the faggot hunters and rogues compete on loot
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is lone hunter a meme
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>>582135627
i think a lot of people are going to rush to 60, find out there isn't a robust endgame yet, find out that the core of the game is leveling, grinding reputations, doing quests, doing tradeskill stuff, and helping your friends with this and that, and they'll bounce off.
To a lot of people, getting BiS and raidlogging IS World of Warcraft. It is their understanding of the game. They won't like that the game isn't designed around that experience.
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>>582144550
Paladin is a better bet if you want to be plate
There's absolutely ZERO chance they aren't anything but top tier especially at DPS and tanking. Just look at how SoD turned out.
Kikeggrend mains a pinky. They have already showed their hand at bias with the string of nerfs to Warrior. Just join the pink menace with the rest of them and have what fun you can
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>>582144918
Is it even enforced on RP anymore? It was one of the perks
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has anyone started a guild from scratch, e.g. just yourself?
how the fuck did you recruit?
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>>582144926
Night elf racial seems to be better. Movement speed is pretty good for rogue, and the crit will be substantially higher dps. Eureka will technically win sometimes, but I don’t think it’s enough to make cb like the clear winner and without cb you’re just getting paid less with eureka
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anyone else feel like the flight paths are way quicker now?
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>>582144317
https://files.catbox.moe/6a0k5c.png
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>>582144939
Realmless was an actual misstep.
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>>582145010
Have fun getting a raidspot when half the fucking server plays a paladin

Have fun trying to get plate loot when half the raid consists of ret paladins

>.t played on Troondle and has been here before
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Comfy
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>>582145157
Eureka can't be used in stealth either so no big ambushes unless you set up for it. Big eviscerate guaranteed is still super nice
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>>582145043
heckin better be.

I imagine the RP Ruleset allows for more report leeway.
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>>582144929
Eh, I'd take old AV any day than whatever 1.12 AV is supposed to be
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>>582145043
It hasn't been enforced in like 10 years anon

Vast majority of players on an RP realm don't even RP and simply go there because of no queues compared to the PvE/PvP realms
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hello im being forced by my bros to play this
is warlock good in this version of wow also?
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>>582141910
Men with confidence.
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shouldnt enhancement shaman be using fastest weapon possible since you get rockbiter?
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>>582145293

Wub da skub. An elf in Horde lands?
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>>582145340
I see, shame. I don't remember seeing twitch meme names etc when I still played though. Was on argent dawn RP back in the day.
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why is everyone playing undead paladin but no one is playing dwarf shaman
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>>582144929
I liked it. You sound a bit retarded. Everyone knows what the objective is in both game modes. Getting the reputation is trivial, you can get honor just fucking around. Who cares. Not a big deal.
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will be rolling RP
will be handing out cages to my dps sissies and telling them the most well behaved one will get to take it off and masturbate in front of me while the others watch
if they refuse they will be kicked from the group so they can wait another 10 hours for a dungeon group.
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>>582141910
A Night Elven Male Resto Druid is one of my planned charactors.

I RP him as having a romantic relationship with Mother Nature.
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i don't know why paladin is so popular, draenei aren't even in the game, what's the point
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>>582145502
Dwarf shaman is an old combo, undead pala is new. And undead is just more popular than dwarf, just like paladin is more popular than shaman. Just the way it goes anon.
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>>582145439
heck yeah
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>>582145307
Yeah crit damage scaling is like secret mechanic. You actually get 20% more damage with eureka. And it scales more with more gear too it just keeps scaling double. Like if you wait for procs or can stack eureka with anything else that im missing you’ll get like very good scale sir.
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>>582145618
heckin grusader midwits and browns flock to the class
also the main dev plays it and wont let it be anything but god tier
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>>582145502
>but no one is playing dwarf shaman
Because dwarf women are ugly and dwarf men are lame.
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>>582144750
>>582144943
kills retail with it's horrible decisions and disneyfied artstyle, turns an entire game's general into it's porn sick masturbation room and kills it as well
the only way to get rid of a relentless faggot janny parasite like you is to hunt you down in real life and kill you isn't it, no one likes you, you samefag reply to yourself and you're a boring faggot retard
I've never seen anything like someone like you where you desperately need attention but the way you go about is to act in the most boring and repetitive fashion possible
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>>582145776
i am not reading all that
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>>582145524
>Everyone knows what the objective is in both game modes
No, they don't. I have played thousands of games of AV including probably hundreds on turtle and it's always the same thing, no one has any idea when and what bases or gys to cap so they randomly run around in a group looking for fights and easy kills. If one team is smarter than the other they know what gys to strategically cap to displace and farm the enemy team which leads to either instant loss or getting farmed for hks for an hour.

AV is probably the worst piece of multiplayer video game content I have ever experienced in my life. Everyone who slobbers on AV's cock has barely played it and likes the idea of it more than the reality.
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>>582144750
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>>582145776
genuinely forever getting popular means we might get a resurgence of good wow porn, it's just been noname and a couple other people for a while now because the game's popularity has been in the toilet for ages
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>>582145840
back when i played AV you could get into the same match a few days later

bring back the REAL AV
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>>582145170
hot, thanks
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>>582143962
Massive cope, people are returning after like 20 year breaks.
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The fact they buffed Gn*mes into the stratosphere makes me so mad I probably won't even play the game
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>windshapers are retarded good goys for fucking air elementals of all things
>join the noshoes
blue elf race war now
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>>582146042
good
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What class/race combo instantly makes everyone think you're a noob?
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>>582145502
im playing dwarf shaman
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>>582146042
SD Gnome Males are ludokino
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>>582145502
There's zero reason to play dwarf shaman over skyborne shaman or undead paladin other than wanting to be an alliance shaman.
The only reason is if you like dwarf because horde all variance you could ask for when making a shaman.
Want to like an idiot savage? Orc
Want to look like a cool or chill bull? Tauren
You wanna be a troll? Troll
You're a tranny? Skyborne
Not into savages? Skyborne (male)
You wanna be a midget? really?
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>>582146106
human male paladin
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>>582145840
You sound retarded and clueless about what the game is about. You sound like a moba player on potato rank constantly blaming his team. Why are you so invested on doing the perfect strat on AV, a casual pvp game mode in a casual videogame? Get a grip.
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>>582145998
i dont really see what about that is cope or from what perspective to be honest
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pedo janny can't take a hint
everyone hates you and your presence brings the general to a crawl because you're that fucking vile
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>>582146135
Getting your dick sucked often? Maybe not so much since we don't have WF yet.
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>>582146106
Human male ret pally
Male nelf hunter
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Human Male Paladins are the main characters of WoW: Forever
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>>582146184
>Why are you so invested on doing the perfect strat on AV, a casual pvp game mode in a casual videogame?
Translation: you run around randomly looking for fights exactly like I described.
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>>582146237
have another drink
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When did they raise the guild member limit? The idea of 30k+ mini hitlers in 1 guild feels insane to me.
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>>582146247
i dont even have my water totem yet lol
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>>582146135
does find treasure really need its own keybind
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>>582146042
It’s not actually that good for melee. Auto attacks do most of your damage. Anyways if you were a serious pvper you were already playing gnome for escape artist. That’s like probably more significant than giving humans stun break, because melee will be in roots or frost nova like actually half the game.
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Anyone coming to black temple tonight? Anyone???
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>>582146371
yeah i'm logging in now save me a spot
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>>582146324
i died so often i got annoyed reaplit constantly
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>>582142642
Okay but seriously I just did RoL not knowing ally can get 4 quests there and turned in the meme shield not knowing it gave almost an entire level of exp to 21

Anyway.
>Handing in 10 meme books gets you a blue neck
>Alliance can do horde quests in RoL
>Rare elite you slam 20 frags together to kill in upper darkshore
>Kirin tor merc you unless your tranny elves
>Gilneas is apparently open right now
>Sw harbor has a boat to aubergine and menethal a boat to south shore
>Raid boss elite in wetlands drops an item you give to greenwarden for crazy ring

Anything else anyone find? I haven't even touched horde side even though ill main that
>Patterns to add attack power to lw kits as a LW
>Striders give armored pen
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I sort of understand retoilets when they want things to be a bit faster. Got off work and spent 2 hours walking back and forth completing one quest chain and now it's time for bed so I can work again. I want the friction and I want the world to feel like this again, but fuck me playing this shit while having a life kind of sucks. Wish I was a streamer or neet again.
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>>582146237
if there was a janny here wouldnt he just delete your messages
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>>582145776
stfu gayasstranny
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>>582146265
You:
>"ARGHHHHHHH WHY DID U GUYS CAP SNOWFALL OMGOMG IM; GONNA LOSE THIS ALTARAC VALLEY FUCKIN NOOOOBS KILL YOURSELVES GET CANCER DIEDIE IDIOTS
Me:
>Oh shit you can spawn a cavalry charge if you do this little quest over here? This is funny lol
Also me:
>Yea my main is top rank in an actual competitive moba where strategy and teamplay is required and I ranked up multiple alts with 90%+ winrate from the midranks to the highranks
Also you:
>FUCKKKKKKKK MY TEAM IS SO BAD THIS SHIT IS RIGGED WHY CAN'T I GET OUT OF BRONZE RANK FUCKKKK SM1 SELL ME A REAL ACCOUNT THESE GUYS ARE SO BADDDDD
just relax tard
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>>582142316
I want certain named spawns during specific times of day or weather in the zone. Like a croc that only shows up when it rains or a wolf that comes out late at night.
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you:
>seething chudjak
me:
>employed sex haver
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>>582146479
the janny should delete non rule breaking posts that I don't like REEEEEEE
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>>582146548
>>Oh shit you can spawn a cavalry charge if you do this little quest over here? This is funny lol
This is what I was talking about with you liking the idea of AV more than the reality. All of the summons are completely useless including on turtle where npcs were buffed. They all die instantly, and that includes the bosses. Literally every time I saw a boss get summoned on turtle it died within seconds of coming in contact with the enemy team. Even worse for the lesser npcs.

You have probably only played a few dozen games of AV in your life.
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>>582146421
>Raid boss elite in wetlands drops an item you give to greenwarden for crazy ring
really?
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>>582144332
>https://files.catbox.moe/2k741q.jpg
Nelfies from the original Azshara-Demon War were a superiority empire, so there was Darnassian and there were lesser races' language you could learn for a lark, or because it was a fad at the time, etc.

Furlbogs, Tauren, fuckin' Trolls, and not much else. Which upstanding member of the Kaldorein Empire is gonna be learning those no-shoes' languages? You've got maybe Draconic, maybe, and that's for the general purposes of the empire.

For the Shen'dorei / Skelfies? They were Azshara's magi-librarians and archivists, storing magic and rituals for the empire. When the Skelfies got run out of Dire Maul for not being willing to inject Fel into their veins, it's not like they'd spent any time with the lesser races. They'd been Highborne elves, talking to other Highborne elves, and when they struck a deal with Air Elementals to poof up a bunch of islands into the Skywall, they didn't even have lesser races anymore.
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>>582146646
>its common among people below 90 IQ to have difficulty understanding hypotheticals
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>>582146042
Gnome racials are fine, their priest racial spells are not.
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So in simplest terms basically, eureka is a lot like landing sword spec. It gives you roughly the same damage as an extra attack would. It’s potentially 60% more damage, if you land all 3 hits. So compare that to nightelf, which gives 10% more damage on every attack. So, nightelf only needs to attack 6 times before breaking even, and has potential to do like way more than eureka would, probably like 5 times more. Humans sword spec will provide 2% more damage, but isn’t on a cooldown. This will provide the most benefit, but you need to be landing way more hits to get value out of it. With the current meta night elf just seems way better. Youre already stun locking your opponent and are likely to get higher value out of night elf’s racial. Human doesn’t seem to compete, but is probably higher raid dps. I guess it just depends on how much of a difference cooldowns make. Fight length in classic is notoriously short, which will probably make night elf the new bis melee class.
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>>582146798
Ye, gives 7 stam, 4 magic and 8 AP
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>>582146817
What you don't like being krillin?
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>>582146460
and when you long on tomorrow, teh game will be right there again
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>>582146371
classic anniversary is going to die overnight when forever comes out, i'll be surprised if they even bother with wrath anniversary
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why does sametranny keep trying to make retoilet happen, you're the only one that says it.
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>>582147071
I wanted them to do classic and then roll into forever, initially. I didn't care about going back to fucking outland or northrend
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>>582146931
So in simplest terms again. 15 seconds of 10% crit rate is literally just 15x5. So you’ll need to be attacking for 75 seconds before humans start out dpsing night elves. It’s actually slightly worse than that, because of cooldowns scaling harder off of higher crit. But it’s probably pretty close to 75-80 seconds. And fight length in naxx is like around a minute long so that’s not looking good for human racial in pvp or pve for melee dps.
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do all ranks of a spell have the same spellpower ratio? or do they gain better ratios at higher ranks in addition to higher base damage?
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>>582147169
yes, same. We should have gotten Forever ages ago. it is fucking retarded that we wasted 6 years doing the expansions again.
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Maybe more would play Dwarf Shaman if Shaman wasn't fucking dogshit in Forever and Dwarf wasn't the only race in the game with effectively untouched Racials. Like why the fuck does every other race in the game get a huge "FUCK YOU I WIN" button but Dwarves can smell chests to almost nobodies benefit.
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>>582147149
Jib is the greatest magician to ever exist.
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>>582146721
I've seen the charges breaking turtled teams but it's not enough to push the boss cuz it's easy to manipulate their aggro and pull them to the boss.
It's whatever, I will never understand the mindset of getting super upset over it. Just go play wsg premades if you care that much instead of tilting at everyone all the time. Wow is not a real pvp game anyways.
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I want survival to be able to effectively tank 5 mans.
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If pets were removed the game quality would improve
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im gonna buy some vodka and drink and level on friday
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>>582147267
Do the DPS racials even make that much of a difference? I agree about the PVP racials though.
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playing heals you really see how bad dps are in dungeons
its like they play the game with healthbars turned off
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I should be able to tank as naxx as a hunter
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I want sma scarlet crusade quest that's as long as an atunement
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>>582141910
everybody knows healers get all the gear and pussy
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>>582147645
They are the pussy
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OFFICIAL RANKING % CHANCE WE WILL GET THIS RACE IN UPCOMING PATCHES

>Blood/high elves - 99%
>Goblins - 95%
>Draenei - 95%
>Ogres - 90%
>Naga - 85%
>Nerubian - 75%
>Pandaria - 75%
>Gnolls - 50%
>Murloc - 45%
>Undead Forsaken death knights (WarCraft II verision) - 5%
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>>582147567
racial min maxing is for people with autism
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would it be too crazy for them to do a classic-ified DH or no
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Are female dwarves the least lewded of all wow females? Maybe Trolls instead.
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>>582147071
Nah they just need to release it during raidlogging period in Forever which should be around February.
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POST FUCKING FINDINGS NAOW
>SKY ELF FEET-
not a finding
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>>582147876
i would....and you didnt hear this from me...rank deathknights, or more specifically NECROMANCERS (of which death knight is one of the specializations) much higher
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>>582147924
if they add any classes, which i doubt because it's a lot of work, they'll probably do brand new ones
i could see tinker or warden
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Dark portal
But
Niller'
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>>582147924
DH should never be a class
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>>582147876
naga nurb gnolls or murloc are not happening. are you people retarded?
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>>582147876
>>Undead Forsaken death knights (WarCraft II verision) - 5%
Loreletbro, WC2 death knights were orc warlock spirits infused into human dead bodies.
They have nothing to do with the forsaken.
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What if they make lore for sally whitemane now that they know she's a popular character and everybody hated that she just because a dk?
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this was made for the classic holy paladin
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>they took the level 19 bow out of the vendors
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>>582144895
the trick is never tryharding, never bottomfeeding, be honest about your availability and say something funny once every raid or two so you're almost invisible yet dependable
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>>582147496
>>>vg//wpsg/
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>>582148206
Go to wetlands and get raptors end it's better than the blue ones
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>>582148194
the balance druid machine gun button
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>You need a level 10 character to post on the forums.
... I do?
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>>582147496
>>>/vg/wpsg
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>Blood elves
Neutral (horde adjacent )
>High elves
Alliance
>Goblins
Neutral (horde adjacent)
>Draenei
Alliance (out of necessity)
>Ogres
Neutral (horde adjacent)
>Naga
Neutral (true neutral)
>Nerubian
Neutral (true neutral)
>Pandaria
Horde (Chen Stormstout)
>Gnolls
Neutral (true neutral)
>Murloc
Neutral (true neutral; allied with Naga)
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If anything they should have a quest where because we know varimathras is a pos we get to kill him in this part of the story
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can horde sky elves talk with night elves? they both speak darnassian
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>>582148164
>naga nurb gnolls or murloc are not happening. are you people retarded?
it's gonna happen. Classic will overtake retail and we will reset all the wrongs.
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>>582141809
>Give Warlocks Burning Rush and Demonic Circle
Leave and never come back.
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>>582147876
They gave the new transformation food to appease people who wanted ogre and murloc, and I bet they'll make dartol's transformation rod into a similar effect to appease people who want to be a furbolg
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>>582148074
>warden
What would that even be
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>>582148416
Yes
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we BETTER get alliance goblins
or else
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Give rogues burst of speed.
Give rogues burst of speed.
GIVE ROGUES BURST OF SPEED.
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>>582147876
thalassian elves are basically guaranteed
goblins are basically guaranteed
worgen seems likely because gilneas is already in the game
draenei less likely, they'd have to do it without the exodar crashing into kalimdor, and that probably means we'd get swamp of sorrows draenei/broken
these all already have player models so the amount of work to get them into forever would be minimal

none of the monster races (ogres, naga, nerubian, gnolls, murloc) seem way less likely because they'd require a ton of extra work and wouldn't very popular anyway, people always say they want to play monster races but then humans and elves end up being 90% of players
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>>582147876
You forgot lava elves and water elves.
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>>582147876
No spacegoats, it's Broken Draenai to alliance and Eredar to horde, horsedick cocksucker
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>>582148529
a mobility-focused class whose main weapon is a chakram they throw, they'd be like a ranged melee
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>>582148542
That's not aesthetic.

The Symmetry calls for Goblins to be the Horde Tinker Race while Gnomes are the Alliance Tinker race.
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>>582142068
>>582142169
>>582148481
>responding emotionally to obvious low effort shitposts
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>>582146303
Healing stream is pretty worthless at this level desu. I think I've used it once in group content.
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>>582148659
goblins are neutral in 'nilla so they should be a neutral race
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>>582146135
Your keybinds and hotbars are fucking horrific. I hate third worlders.
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>>582148570
>humans and elves end up being 90% of players
Sadly this is the truth.
It's also why they boldly added Skelfs.
Now it's just beta but just you wait for it to go live, the stats are gonna be crazy I bet.
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Alliance needs an ugly and a furry race NOW!
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>>582148735
Yes, I am aware of the lore.

But the aesthetic symmetry calls for them to be the Horde tinker race while Gnomes are the Alliance tinker race.
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>potential races
Forgetting someone?
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>>582144929
>Most people have no idea how the bg works or what the objective is so they randomly wander around looking for fights.
The fact that you think this illustrates you have no idea what's happening in your bgs. People know full well how it works. But they want to max honor while the rest of the team does the strategies for them. When most people do this, then you have the average retardo game. They know how to play, they just don't care.
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>>582147876
There's no way they're adding ogres, at least if they're going to continue with paid races. No one would pay for fucking ogres, it doesn't make sence from a business perspective.
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>>582147926
Ive seen far more troll smut than dwarf
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>>582148706
we're not getting furbolgs retard
or naga
or murlocs
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>>582147574
I saw a hardcore clip the other day of some fag streamer playing hunter and he is like super serious going "what do I do what do I do" after they pulled an extra pack. The guy didn't even have manabars on in his partyframes. I literally had no idea how to assess the situation since I don't know how much mana the healer has. It's mindblowing how some people play the game.
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>>582148765
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>>582148852
>we're not getting furbolgs retard
>or naga
>or murlocs

wow forever is completely different timeline form wow retail. we are getting everything and we are getting all of the continents open and it's all gonna be the cut content from 2004.
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>>582148827
They would obviously bundle them with other stuff.
Not that I'm arguing for it, just saying if they wanted to, they'd find a way.
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instead of naga we will get sea elves who can put snakes on their hair (they're completely decorative and do not move at all)
instead of ogres we will get elves with 2 heads
instead of ethereals we will get elf mummies
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>>582148780
they're not gonna do a fuckin draft, it would be wildly unpopular and cause endless amounts of shit for whichever party initiates it
what's gonna happen is they're going to try to entice people to the military with student loan debt forgiveness and shit like that
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>>582148849
It is quite intense just how much Tall Woman mogs short woman.

I cannot find short woman sexually attractive.

Also that Troll should have Red Hair if she has fweckles.
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>>582149005
I want night elf elves
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>>582148919
Saw a really tall bitch the other day. I'm 6'3 and she must have been like 6'4-5. Sadly there wasn't a curve on her, plank build. Decent face though.
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>>582148818
I would give blizzard one free pass to do the most retarded thing possible if playable 'nids happened
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>>582148919
>>582149050

tf
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>>582148818
They should give them more bosses if anything
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You know on the one hand, it’s be nice if they actually handled the Skyborne divides properly but it’s also kinda weird to be like “yeah these guys trust the air elementals and these guys don’t”

Because according to regular wow canon, yeah the air elementals are pretty chaotic pricks that went back to serving their masters in the old gods and bring about the apocalypse. so unless forever wow drastically works towards making air elementals more nuanced than that, well the wind shapers look pretty foolish.
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Kill olympus members. Shoot olympus members in the head. Decapitate olympus members. Chuck olympus members in a meat grinder. Hang olympus members from lamp posts. Draw and quarter olympus members. Throw acid on olympus members faces. Evaporate olympus members with a ray gun.
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>>582149236
you're talking about a race that has a history of making pacts with literal demons
elves are not known for making wise loyalty decisions
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>>582149149
I felt that the original post was a bit mean toward short women.

Just because they are not my personal taste, doesn't mean I want to make them feel bad.
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>>582142149
If it makes you feel better I always remember to cast Faerie Fire
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>>582148919
>>582149050
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>>582149236
Of course they're foolish, they joined the Horde :^)
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>>582148875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD6_cq29Tlc
Do you guys think that hunter at 4:37 really plays like that or is he just pretending for content? I'm 50/50 on it.
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Guild name: Stormwind Guard

RP-PVP. We patgrol the Roads and stop Horde from ganking citizens of the Alliance.

Best Race/Class Combo for the Knight Commander of this guild?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grhjK8xH3H4&t=4s
C O M F Y
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F
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They need to go back to whole idea behind World of WarCraft.

The war to end all wars is over, the planet of Azeroth survived. It's time to rebuild. The world is now in a cold war. With Horde, Alliance and Scourge being the big three factions and the rest of the factions have to respond to them and alliances are formed and broken between them. That is the whole point of wow. Long gone are the days of actual great wars, now it's cold war geopolitics.
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why the FUCK can i not make ally and horde characters on the same account on a pvp server? i dont want to buy a 2nd sub
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>>582149487
can't wait to see shit like a sandstorm in tanaris or a snowstorm in winterspring
shit is going to be k i n o
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How come they didn't add racial spells for every class in this? Would make the entire experience way more unsolved.
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My sky elf ate a fel crystal
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They could honestly just stick with SD + improved lighting and it'd be ludokino.
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>>582149487
can we request to blizzard that it rain in Elywn Forest for days on end? I could play just to sit in a house listening to it.
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>>582149464
>RP-PVP
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>>582149319
I one time kited a green root drake all the way to asmongold and crew was a good memory.
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>>582149487
>>582149653
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>>582149236
elementals aren't inherently like that they were just buck broken by the old gods
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>>582149653
>shit is going to be k i n o
unfathomably so
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>>582144895
this type of toxicity is pretty much wow only. it's like a specific combination of manchild, autist, and being enabled by the actual developer to create this.
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>>582141910
healing is the most alpha thing you can do bro. you're literally standing behind your minions pumping them full of life essence while they depend on you to survive. that's the definition of alpha. dps PEONS can never grasp this.
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>>582149748
post more slampigs elves

BONUS: post slampig Whitemane
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>>582149801
what's the problem? It'd be on the PVP server.
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>get into the Lion's Pride Inn, pay a couple silver to get a room, find an instance that opens up to my own my room in the end, take off armor and clothing, put on my pajamas and get into bed with warm water sitting next to me as the rain outside my window.
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>>582149487
>22 years of retoilet and nothing gets added like this
>no weather changes
>a paid beta
>instant dynamic weather
holy shit they actually might be planning to axe retoilet, like not jokingly
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>>582149748
O YES, YAS, YES!
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>>582150013
Yep, this should be in the game.
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>>582149769
All of the promotional content they've shown uses the SD models.
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>>582150013
>adding erp rooms into forever
why doe
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>>582150013
warm water?
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>>582149748
looks like she ate a bit more than that chief
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>>582150129
It's ludokino and aesthetic and comfy.
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>>582149825
world of warcraft is like this bizarre manchild egotistic vortex where people hyperfixate on shit that not only doesn't matter, but nobody even cares about nonsense like your parse or some rare mount you have other than you
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I'm really happy the tripniggers keep their tags on so I can just filter every dogshit post of theirs
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>>582150142
you can choose either milk, warm water, tea and get a comfy book to read. oh and you get breakfast.
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>>582150030
The last titan is the last expansion
It's finally over
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>>582150221
there's a giant fuckin alien outside his window that does not look comfy
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>>582150013
Unironically being able to pay for an inn room, have your character to go to sleep, log out, and get bonus rested xp and a small well rested stat buff (like +5% max hp or something) when you come back would be pretty kino.
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>>582149825
>>582150174
why are we pretending this happens in any version but retoilet

thats all it is
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>>582150301
Anon that's fog, but it is concerning as that appears to be a road that goes directly to his window
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>night elves. all one shade
>blood elves. all one color
>sky elves. all the colors of dei with the hair to match
isn't this why you stopped playing retail?
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>>582150304
and you can pya for longer stays, a couple copper for the night and a couple gold for weeks on end.
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>>582150387
>all the colors of dei
What are those?
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>>582150387
I stopped playing retail because I was sick of the seasonal grind and fomo, desu
>night elves
>all one shade
wrong btw
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>>582145010
i've thought about it but undead pallies are going to be half the horde.
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>>582150387
>he doesn't know
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>>582150387
No I stopped playing retail because BfA had fucking backwards progression where enemy scaling was out of whack with your ilvl meaning you got WEAKER as you got better gear. I left over legitimate concerns about the game's core mechanics, why did YOU leave retail?
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>>582150387
the theming of retail actually matters very little and even the absolute worst of it, like dragonflight's gay centaurs or BFAs fucking furry foxes, would be tolerable if the game was good
the game is not good. that's why people quit. there's nothing to do aside from M+, raiding and mogsmountscheevos, and all outdoor content is completely trivial and excruciatingly boring.

not to mention there's constant seasonal resets now. what used to be a once-an-expansion power reset to put people on an even playing field now happens every four months, and you must once again grind up an all new full set of gear and vendor what you had before because it is now worthless trash.
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you know the game is as good as it can get when the biggest complaint is a double faction high elf race
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>>582150626
Neggro Nelf bitch is kino
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>>582150387
yes the fag elves suck donkey dick and all the sky nigger related assets have no place in classic wow. its a flaw for sure but nothing is perfect. overhauled classes new system that meet the "convenience is the death of the journey" criteria, based as fuck environment immersion upgrades, and continuation of never explored vanillia content is literally the most you could ask for from nu-blizz.
the ball is in their court. i will be extremely disappointed if they add more disney looking shit but anyone who plays a video game for graphics should watch a fucking movie
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does your body type pick for your race align with your gender identity?

>orc
>no
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can't decide if I want to play druid or mage on launch
i was thinking about shaman too, but shaman is so boring. thankfully i tried it out in beta and remembered how trash shaman is
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>>582141910
one of my best friends almost exclusively plays healers and he couldn't be gay even if he wanted to because of anal fissures
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>>582150779
I'm one of like 5 male skelfs on the server
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>>582150780
go druid
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>>582150520
Nta but it's the soft pastel colors, especially the pink.
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>>582150626
is that in forvo? making a drow would be sick
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>>582141910
>Is there a single cisgender heterosexual man who mains a healer?
Only had sex with a black guy 3 times in my life. I am not gay.
>cis white guy
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i hope the initial hype ending will make all the weird people leave .
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>>582150672
it's literally the only new content aside from random balance changes. even the minor stuff from riverglades shown is garbage writing.
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>>582150895
No. It's strange that they added new skin colors for humans, dwarves and gnomes, but didn't add any of the other new skin colors for the other races. Maybe they couldn't get the skin colors on the SD models in time for the beta?
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>>582151037
theres lots of new quests, new dungeons, new profession perks.... are you sure you're playing?
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>>582150945
I hope it kills the franchise, these generals stop being made and you end up killing yourself
I hope your parents find you and kill themselves from the shame of knowing you use this place as a masturbation chamber
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I went all the way to Tyr's Hand.
Eversong Woods and the Ghostlands aren't in yet, but Adon is there.
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I wish they would remove the languages. It was a late addition to vanilla and it wucks.
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>>582151212
thanks we already new that off the map from before beta started
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>>582151060
It would break lore to just start adding all these wild colors to the races.

But with the races which have that Earth toned skin spectrum , it just seems more plausible.
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I'm so excited for this release but uh... Beta? Yeah no thanks. I'm good. I'll just... Wait!
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Genuinely how do you find a fucking guild in 2026 that is actively anti discord?
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Thanks, Wowhead.
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Looks like complete dogshit
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>>582150668
>>582150646
This. OK sure all the rainbow flag shit is a bit grating but quite frankly I can live with it if the game is good. The problem is the game is good and hasnt been good for a long fucking time.
I genuinely dont care as long as the game is good. Disco Elysium is written by actual communists and it's still one of the best-written games out there
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>>582151212
season of discovery minus.
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>>582151254
No, it is cool. RP things should be added, not removed.
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>>582151357
The problem is the game ISNT good, I meant
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>>582151212
One more the new Cathedral.
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>>582151069
Why is there always some rabid faggot blowing shit out of proportions like this?
All I said it's the soft pastel colors, the rest is you imagining things, probably eagerly typing out an argument you have long prepared in your head and now was the right moment to type it out.
You make your pink haired gnome, nobody cares. Nobody cares if you make a pink haired sky elf either.
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>>582151331
I don't like Discord either, does the Guild interface on WoWever have enough functionality for event scheduling and notices and such?
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>>582151562
Nta but it does, but discord has the benefit that you can put it on your 2nd monitor and not take up any of the game screen
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>>582151557
You're right that's why I deleted it.

I was actually waiting to type that, realized I went over board.

Also I remembered that some colors are just not lore friendly.

Anyways, yeah, my bad /v/rother.
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>>582151357
>OK sure all the rainbow flag shit is a bit grating but quite frankly I can live with it if the game is good.
They do it on purpose to make people hate us. I just want a guy who can hold me in bed and cuddle. Maybe a tiny rainbow flag in my room.

>bi guy here
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>>582151296
Would it really though? The only one that is outright lorebreaking is that you can make the trolls yellow, similar to the sand trolls, but it's still not exactly the same color as the sand trolls.
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>>582151562
The game has guild chat and a calendar, that is enough, i just refuse to use the transvestite groomer school shooter e-whore platform of discord
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>>582151680
That's alright bro *rustles you're hair*
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Anyone up for making a scruffy Tauren Brothers Tribe?
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What is the min-max healer choice looking like for raids based on the beta?
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>>582151917
the beta is out for like... 2 days nigga! we dont have info for this type of shit!
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>>582151858
I honestly don't understand people who like hairless woman.

Muff is exquisite.
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>>582151808
I never understood the vehement hatred of discord done justvour of principal. Big public discords? I agree those are absolute cancer and if you want to botch at the devs thrn just use the official forums, thats what wow players have always done. But I just treat private servers as just chatrooms, not that different from old forums
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>>582151254
Instead how about we add a new secondary profession called Literary Scholar or Orator or something. You spend your time reading various books across azeroth and interacting with people who are speaking their race's language (even other factions) and as you skill up the broken speech becomes slightly more legible, like at 200/300 common an Orc can now speak Commonish and it looks broken and reads wrong, but it's still understandable. And eventually you can max out all languages, get a title for it, etc. It's entirely non-essential and provides no mounts/toys/transmog/gear, but would be awesome for RP and would allow communication between the factions so now you can call the Orc who chases you for 30 minutes a no shoe'd nigger.
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>>582152012
Wow I made a fuckton of spelling mistakes there
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>>582151808
I don't really care for the 'open on second monitor thing' that's not a selling point for me.

The last obstacle of removing Discord is the voice chat.
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>>582151780
Do you lads support them genuinely adding new character creation options? Not necesarily just grabbed from retail, but new hairstyles, skin/hair colours, that kinda thing? I saw some people complaining that there are 'non classic' hairs in the char creator and it seems like, why would that even be a bad thing.
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>browntoid niggers are crying because they arent going to be hardcoded to be the best at everything anymore
>screaming and seething and shidding and farding endlessly in an impotent rage
You fucking LOVE to see it.
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>>582150387
i still play retail and like the gameplay i just also want a more traditional MMO on the side that isnt so full of dumb white woman story writing
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>>582152120
No the greatest benefit of discord isn't either of those things, it's that much like vent back in the day blizzard has no control over what you say in it
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>>582152158
The fact that they get dabbed on by the pink class makes it all that much better desu
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>>582152131
I think they should go crazy and add evil, fucked up options like beardless male dwarf or the hunched female trolls from alpha.
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>>582152158
*levels a paladin instead*
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I guess it’s a beta for a reason but boy howdy does forever feel oddly rushed for something that’s should’ve been in the works for quite a few years now.

Can only imagine those dudes are really feeling the eyes of Sauron (Microslop) after seeing everything else get decimated. Even poor Id….
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>>582152259
Palachads AND Druidbros stealing their lunch simultaneously. And bullying Rogues out too. And Mages are getting thrown in the dumpster on top of it.
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>>582151331
>Anti discord

do you expect them to use teamspeak
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>>582152308
>Sorry, full on Paladins
Prot OS making my own groups full of non plate wearers forever.
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Reminder that anyone who says something along the lines of
>oh yeah well if hybrid tax was a thing why were priests and warriors good?
Is at best someone who doesn't know what they're talking about and at best disingenuous. Hybrid tax was only there for pally and druid because they were the only classes that could perform all 3 roles. It didn't apply elsewhere
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What will be the most trans accepting server?
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>>582152158
>best at everything
>really bad at leveling unless you know the game mechanics inside and out like an autist (still loses to warlock/mage/rogue/hunter/paladin/shaman)
>really bad at open world pvp and requires honorabu 1v1s with strict rulesets to win duels
>bad at low gear levels in pve
>good at everything
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>>582152469
Bro this is Forever, not your unc ass vanilla, sybau
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That's it, I'm leveling dwarffemale paladin.
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>>582152346
>after seeing everything else get decimated.
AoE couldn't be in a better state though
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>>582152469
>perform all 3 roles.
Paladins didnt even have a taunt and Feral cats did less damage than full mit tanks.

Meanwhile Warriors felt entitled to be the best tank and best dps simultaneously with one spec and one gear set. Fuck warniggers. I hope they leave you weak and pathetic for the next 20 years.
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why do people think dwarf racials arent going to be good. isnt 10% AP/SP still very damn good? espically for something like ench shaman
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>>582152430
I expect them to use guild chat

FUCK your groomer cord
FUCK your high school drama
FUCK your doxxing

You will not hear my real life voice
You will not groom kids in my vicinity
You will not get me to chitchat like highschool girls

Use fucking guild chat IN THE GAME

FUCK DISCORD
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>>582152158
it is honestly going to be really annoying seeing paladins everywhere
and they're ALL going to be ret, too, you can be sure of that
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>>582152514
>warrior tears
Delicious. Ill bottle them and use them to outdps you then send you a screencap because your bitch ass will never be in any group content ever.

Gonna spend the rest of your life talking shit outside the club cuz you arent allowed in.
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>>582152592
Yeah, because they were hit witg the hybrid tax. For whatever reason the vanilla devs thought if you csn do everything then you have to kinda suck at it
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>>582152630
meant Orc*
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>>582151331
>>582152636
isn't it funny how there isn't a single "anti-discord" person who isn't a cringe anti-social autistic retard?

curious
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>>582152664
A bad paladin is still a bad player and being good at any spec of Paladin requires utilizing your toolkit effectively. Warniggers are all braindead spoiled babies that will try seal twisting and wonder why they're doing double digit dps then put on the dress so they can be the sissy healslut bitch they were always meant to be.
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>>582152636
>FUCK your high school drama
Bro you're playing the game whose faction loyalty is just high school football rivalry (aka it doesn't fucking matter) still continued by people in their 30s
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>>582149854
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Did Hall of Thanes and all the quests for it (5): I got about 1 and a half levels starting from level 14. Assuming all of the dungeons are like this, and I know they're probably not, why do people assume that they can boost with just dungeon quests?
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>>582152475
Private servers
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>>582152701
>wr broke your spec and made it completely non functional because taxes bro
>meanwhile this brown nigger pays no tax and is better than everyone at everything
>thats fair right bro
I hope they nerf rage generation so much it takes you 15 minutes of swinging to get 1 point of rage.
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What race for horde war?
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what race/class for a 6'4 white man with a 4 inch penis
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>>582152905
Bro I'm a druid, I'm just explaining why the tax only ever applied to us and people who say it wasn't real because warriors weren't affected dont understand that it was never meant to affect them
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>>582152980
It wasnt a tax you fucking mongoloid. Do you seriously not know? Do I have to explain who Tigole and Furor were and why they dictated the last minute gutting of two classes during WoW Beta?
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Ogre boobs
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>>582151858
>wish they had dicks

maybe i am gay
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>healing a dm with warrior tank
>he barely takes any damage
>we do greenskin with all the pirates pulled and nobody dies
>holds threat like a champ, im the only person pulling off him because im hpal and hitting things+consecrate
>is chain pulling the dungeon with barely any break
2 hours later
>do dm group with a prot paladin
>losing threat the entire dungeon
>takes like triple the damage as the warrior even though he has full blues
>constantly stopping to drink
>needs my int ring even though he has 2 blue rings already and wins
Never playing with protpal, they fucking suck ass still.
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>>582152785
So paladin was some sort of long term grooming scheme all along. I should have known given all the aesthetic nods to the Catholic church.
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Is it worth resubscribing for Forever? I haven't played WoW since the Legion days.
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>americans going to sleep
>trade chat is finally usable again
its gaming time
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>>582152974
You want a race/class combo that demonstrates some level of confidence, but masks a level of insecurity. I believe Night Elf Druid is the way to go: you can tank and be a leader, but you're intrinsically more cautious than other tanks as your defenses come from bulk rather than reduction or active abilities, and in situations where you're lower on the pecking order, you still bring powerful buff to your team.
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>>582153123
I bear tanked (didn't want to, we just had a hard time getting a tank) and we were fine even if I was losing aggro a lot. DM and WC simply aren't hard enough to matter.
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what stage of grief is this?
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>>582153123
>he doesnt know

Lol
Lmao
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>>582151060
>It's strange that they added new skin colors for humans, dwarves and gnomes, but didn't add any of the other new skin colors for the other races
Not much need, all the horde races are already niggers.
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>>582153123
how are you already doing dire maul?
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whats a good alliance guild to join to let people know im racist
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>>582153374
But you can't play as a black undead.
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>>582153123
>good player
vs
>bad player
i wonder why the good player did better
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Test
Turtle
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>>582153441
Black people turn deathly pale too when they die, they dont stay anywhere near as dark because the body is no longer producing melanin
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>>582153441
UD doesn't need to be black to be a nigger.
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>>582153442
Because he picked the correct class
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Test
because its dead
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>>582151808
Based
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>>582153442
im the guy version of this
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>bitch on reddit about weather effects not being close enough to 1.12
>every redditor spergs out and says youre being autistic for caring about this and they are fine
>blizz actually steps up and fixes it

why are redditors so defensive about people asking for more from the game? they are doing this shit now with the SD/retail mods
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>>582153476
>>582153621

Ok so these both worked so why can I not tell this faggot >>582152475 that turtlewow is the trans server because its dead?
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>>582153441
>body stops producing melanin
>body no longer has flowing blood which gives people color
>thinking the dead person will be black
If anything dead black people look blueish and ashy.
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>>582149464
God forbid you stretch your imagination a centimeter to come up with your own guild instead of trying to piggyback off an in-game faction's authority.

You don't see Orc roleplayers making <Orgrimmar Grunts> guilds. How is it people roleplaying dirt shitting neanderthals can scratch together two adjectives to make a homebrew <X Clan> guild but humanfags can only ever shart out <Stormwind Guard> on every RP realm across every expansion, private server, or game reboot for the past quarter century?
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wtf so you can randomly get this instead of a girl?
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>>582153665
your dick is tiny.
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>>582152475
I mean objectively the answer is RP
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>>582153758
afaik you have to go out of your way to get that specifically, so you'll know who the faggots are
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>>582153791
i got chubby and it got smaller :(
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>>582153721
>black people look blueish
we was sky elves n shit
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>>582152636
none of this shit happens in guild discords the majority of the players are 40+ rednecks with a wife and kids
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>>582153731
Nta but a lot of them are obsessed with medieval Europe to like...an unhealthy degree, so everything goes back to Castles and knights with them.
No fictional setting likes to do Early Modern Period Europe (aka knights with guns) aside from the Empire in WHF
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Is Paladin going to be popular or underplayed. I want to play Pally but don't want to compete with too many
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>clear monastery
>whitemane nowhere to be found
>walk into the back room
>see this
well?
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>>582153184
Why does your gaming time involve sitting in town reading trade chat?
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>>582153991
Ifs the flavour of the month on horde.
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>>582153731
More like Horde is a disheveled mishmash of outcasts who practically hate each other and stick with their own, so they have no formation of any order and stick with their tribalist clans like a bunch of dindus inciting African and religious blood feuds in big 2026.

Meanwhile the Alliance is ordered and reliant on each other and help each other so they already have well formed militias and other groups that players can RP as. Like the Westfall Brigade militia who ventured into Northrend.
Closest thing Horde ever had was when Garrosh brought order to the chaos and established the Kor'kron, but we all saw he was treated for trying to uplift his people and rid the degenerates and scum
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>>582153758
>>582153887
They should change it so Body Type 2 starts with the Incubus and you have to go out of your way to pick the Succubus on Body Type 2 characters.
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>>582153991
As a Pally player I am doing my part and rolled a Priest to shit on as many Paladins as I can to dissuade people from playing a Pally when the game launches
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>>582153989
>Nta but a lot of them are obsessed with medieval Europe to like...an unhealthy degree
It was the last time where Europe was actually great
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>>582153991
Paladin is always the most played class in the game. Baniller is the only exception due to forced sissy crossdresser status.
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>>582154015
EEEERRRRRRRM!!!!!!??? That's a literal fetus!
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The only issue I have with the game is the lack of money given for quests.
Had to suck dick really hard to level up some skills on my hunter.
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>>582154093
Last I checked Europe didn't conquer the world until AFTER it left the middle ages behind and God himself granted us the Shot and Pike formation
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>>582152636
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>/wowfg/ - sloppa general
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>>582153887
I will get this shit specifically for raids and bgs while having succubus solo. Fuck people wanting to goon to my succubus gf.
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>>582154047
>garrosh
>establish the kor'kron
Just go ahead and stop right there son. You wrong enough already, no need to compound things.
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>>582141910
Me but I also need to give the orders in any group or raid for my services since I'm a god
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>>582154156
Damn, did you swallow too or did you make them pay extra for that?
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>>582154047
>so they already have well formed militias and other groups that players can RP as
Which they summarily reject to instead make the 10000th Stormwind Guard guild because no one would think twice to recognize their """authority""" to interject themselves into other people's RP otherwise.
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>>582154047
lorelet lol
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>>582152592
>Feral cats did less damage than full mit tanks.
wdym

BWL was feral peak which put them behind warrior and rogue but ahead of everything else. Afterwards they started lagging due to limited gear options (no feral sets), lack of scaling and fire mages coming online. There was quite a large divide between good ferals and bad ferals though, because cat gameplay with powershifting was a bit more involved than pressing frostbolt over and over again. Pummelers didn't help.

>>582152701
That was a good thing. Now they've turned feral into cat specialization and bear specialization. In classic you could do both with one spec fairly well (missed out on a couple minor things), now the losses are much more significant if you want to go for both.

Another thing is the massive reduced base spell damage. Wrath base damage at 60 is a whopping 65 damage, used to be 260. You've basically got no business to be casting spells as feral because they do nothing. This isn't particularly a pve concern, definitely not a raiding concern, but affects pvp. Damage of spells is now balanced around having spell damage on your gear (especially on your weapon), but ferals won't have any, and they don't have a talent either similar to shamans/paladins that give spell damage. As a result, hybrid play is dead.

This kind of specialization is a bit boring in my opinion. I played druid extensive in classic, and especially in the earlier phases, there's a lot of room for more hybrid playstyles.
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cute tranny elf girl healers...
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>>582154373
>Afterwards they started lagging due to limited gear options (no feral sets)
Wasn't there a bunch of Feral gear in AQ? It was a raid designed for offspecs if I remember right, had a bunch of Shadow and Ret gear too
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>>582152592
got enough seethe in the tank for another 2 decades lil pinksissy?
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>undead hate everything and everyone, having suffered and gone psychotic
>darkspear nearly wiped out by level 4 murlocs
>tauren nearly wiped out by level 6 centaurs
>orcs holding the entirety of the horde on their back, but they still suck with technology and craftsmanship so everything is made of mud and sticks
The Horde is kind of pathetic. They need goblins and undead should stop messing with alchemy and magic and start helping around with foundation and architecture. Could you imagine a major city built by the hands of the the men who built Lordaeron, but themed after the Horde?
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>>582154062
that's very homophobic
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>tons of retoilets openly saying they want to play and are excited, even so far as 4chan threads having this stance
>basically zero way to realistically avoid them or keep them out
its all so tiresome

idk what i really expected though desu
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>>582143349
Which is part of the reason retail is spiraling in the shitter.
As soon as you miss out on FOMO the FOMO spell breaks. Once you've missed out you can never un-miss-out, either because you're an old player who took a break or a prospective new player starting late.
Executives are too retarded to realize this.

>>582154234
It's the same demon (or so the demon says). You're just altering the ritual to troon her.
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>>582154573
The Horde has their capital city right on the border of Ashenvale and still get their shit pushed in by the Night Elves alone. I don't know why Blizzard make them so consistently weak and cucked
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>Nelf military culture is a split between Amazons and Warrior Priests
>20 years without any Nelf paladins and only now just being added to Sneedtail
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I CURSE ALL PALADINS TO DEATH
I CURSE ALL PALADINS TO DEATH
I CURSE ALL PALADINS TO DEATH
I CURSE ALL PALADINS TO DEATH
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>>582154498
Keep crying about rage. Shut up and bandage the healer browntoid.
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>>582154765
do women see chubby men as hot as we see this if that makes sense
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>>582142909
My question is: How much would you be willing to pay? Like if blizzard said, "Fuck you, gimme 100 usd" would you still do it?
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>>582154752
Don't you mean you Bane all paladins to death?
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arena and mythic plus should be added. non-arena pvp sucks and hard dungeons is fun.
we have transmog so it's retail minus already anyway.
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>>582154753
be sure to post your seethe on bluesky and i'll be sure to read it
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>>582154808
i dont think so, curves and chubbiness is largely a downstream effect of men sexually selecting for women that can survive pregnancy and give birth to healthy children. women never had the selection pressure to so deeply reach for curves and thicker bodies.
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>average horde player vs average alliance faggot
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>>582154752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43XdxaIgvo
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>>582154746
Retail can keep Night Elf Paladins, it's as fucking stupid as Tauren Paladins. Paladins are extremely recent in Warcraft and are intrinsically tied to the Second War.
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>>582154498
kek why are paladins like this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of_RiAuy2sQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvueCoFTkCk
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>>582153123
prot pala doesn't have demoshout until very late in prot tree and even that is single target. they also don't have thunderclaps which reduces mobs attack speed.

warrior is the king of migitation, I'll avoid prot pallies like a plague.
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>>582154808
Kind of, the only fat body type some women like on men is the overweight powerlifter type. Similarly to some kinds of faggots.
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>>582154876
weird bcuz irl dad bod chubby guys hav way more success than chubby women

like more women probably would fuck a male dwarf than men would fuck female dwarves in wow etc
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>>582154474
A bunch, though with some you were competing with rogues and warriors. You also got the feral AP mace, but your offhand of choice with that was a blue from stratholme (tome of knowledge). The best hat option was also a blue (from moam).

For BWL, if you were a sweatlord, you had your epic pvp set, wsg exalted bracers, etc.
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STOP NERFING HUNTERH OLY SHIT ITS THE SAME STORY IN CLASSIC

HOLY FUCKING SHIT STOP IT
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Shadow paladins
Earth tank paladins
Order Druids
Melee warlock
True caster hunter
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>>582154975
>kek why are paladins like this
It's a class that attracts fagotts both in the literal and figurative sense.
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>>582155168
>paladins
shamans*
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>>582154937
alex fits the typical horde nig
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>>582154937
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>hes just samefagging now
Lol
Lmao
Better figure out something, you browntoids cant even put on a dress and be a healslut. Id say you could stand there and impotently scream for your group all dungeon but Not Enough Rage
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https://files.catbox.moe/c71wht.png

melee warlock would be kino, I don't really think they should get metamorph though
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>saurfang is still our based saurfang instead of sourfang
>Benedictus and Fandral are not suddenly made le evil cartoonish villains
>we will Rescue Varyan ourselves instead of him reappearing from nowhere
>Sylvanas will never be warchief
>Outland might never happen meaning that we might go to northrend eventually without going to outland and ruining the story
There's so many fuck ups that they can correct, holy fuck please don't mess things again and I will forgive you for the retarded sky elves and undead paladins
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>s(he) spends 40 years of life pissing and shitting about warriors
#justpaladinthings
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>>582155401
saurdough bread
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>>582155039
>dad bod
When women say "dad bod" what they actually mean is very muscular physique and when they say "too muscular" they often mean the exact same body type just a bit more cut and dehydrated
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiESdhmf7Mw

TIER LISTS ARE OUT
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>>582154975
Paladin players are spiritually indian.
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>>582155401
>Saving Varyan and he comes back as King to lead the Alliance into Outland
Kino
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Blues are prominent in lizzards newst wowf trailer
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>>582155424
Hey maybe you can be like rogues in tbc and make your own guild to carry your limp, crippled, rage starved body thru content like they were doing for glaives?

Nah, theyd probably force you to reroll troonelf holy priest or theyd just reform without you. Nobody wants to deal with a class thats completely worthless, obsolete dead weight.
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I want to play prot paladin
But I also want a raid spot

Do you think I have a more likely chance at a raid spot as a prot warrior
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Two truth nukes INCOMING

>RAID CONTENT WILL BE PRETTY FUKING EASY
>>582155626
my guess is youre free to play whatever

>THEY WILL DO BALANCE PATCHES
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What class will have people begging for me to join raids
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>>582155626
cute girls like you should be healers sweetie
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>>582155626
Nobody is bringing warriors anywhere. Everything they used to be able to do Druids or Paladins or Rogues do better.
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>hyjal has a factionless camp

LMAO T HEYRE DOING IT AGAIN
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>>582155689
shaman for sure
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>>582155687
>RAID CONTENT WILL BE PRETTY FUKING EASY
I hope so. Hard raids are cancer. Game was most fun when it was easy
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>>582155723
I mean that's pretty vanilla
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>>582155687
Everyone does balance patches. Its how you do them, and not all of them have equal outcome.
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there will be a version of outland later and illidan will have a different story arc
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>>582155792
>that's pretty vanilla
>worl of WARraft
>vanilla
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GET A BREZ ON ZUELASE
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>>582154987
>What is WoW:F
this sounds like AI voice no?
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>>582155603
making a good head start on that 20 year plan i see
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>>582155689
Shaman will always have raid slots guaranteed because of WF totem. But youll have to compete for them against every other Shaman who knows the same thing.
>>582155723
>the people who fought a war for their very survival against the Scourge and Burning Legion didnt instantly turn on eachother as soon as Archimonde died

There wasnt a whole lot of "war" post Hyjal. The shit didnt start getting legitimately stirred in lore until Wrath.
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>>582155824
>Silithus has a factionless camp
>Winterspring has a factionless camp
>EPL has a factionless camp
it's the norm
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>>582155556
If we ever go to outland again I hope they remake all the story, Kael and Illidan being the villains was utterly stupid
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>>582155687
>>RAID CONTENT WILL BE PRETTY FUKING EASY
As it should be. A big part of classic's appeal is that it's easy. You got plenty of delusional uncs convincing themselves otherwise, but that's the truth. Raids aren't hard, wrangling 40 tards is. Leveling isn't hard, it just takes a long time. PvP isn't hard, it's just a matter of who has the most gear.
The classic experience is an EASY experience, and there's nothing wrong with that.
>THEY WILL DO BALANCE PATCHES
Based.
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>50 character limit
>level up 1 character a week for a year
>200 free Elemental Essence a day

Find a flaw
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>>582155824
what is ratchet/gadgetzan/booty bay/everlook/thorium point/light's hope if not factionless neutral camps and towns?
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so if i dont wanna raid but i do want gear to feel powerful enough to kill lvl 60 elites on my own

what do i do now?
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>>582155953
The fuck is an elemental essence?
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>>582156029
>what do i do now?
Craft your gear. To the great dismay of #nochanges uncs crafting professions are good now.
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>>582156029
pvp
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>New dungeons are low effort trash
>itemization is just retail
>less character customization that SoD
>mega servers
>algorithms that decide player interaction
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>>582156052
the currency you used to reroll gear drops
Essence of fire =reroll dungeons
Essence of water = reroll 10 mans
Essence of shadow = reroll 20 mans
Essence of undeath = reroll 40 mans
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>>582156029
You get a fucking grip and realize gear doesnt fall from the sky you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>582156076
>To the great dismay of #nochanges uncs crafting professions are good now.
you guys just make up people in your head to be mad about
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explain how "classic plus" isn't just "retail minus" when they're just incorporating a bunch of recycled shit from existing retail content (again!)
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>>582156029
just do a couple raids they're only gonna take like 2 hours a week and will shit out epics 10x more than vanilla raids with 2 drops for 40 players did
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>>582156076
It'd be pretty sweet if there are decent craftable sets that are not just stat sticks
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>>582156148
nochanges unc having a melty
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>>582156076
is that viable now?
>>582156080
i hate pvp
>>582156141
>>582156167
i hate raiding i don't wanna talk with anyone in this game
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Have any non-paypigs gotten a beta invite?
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Deadmines quests straight up give like 1.5 levels.
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>>582156148
One of the prevailing doomjeet narratives the past couple of days has been that you shouldn't be able to get good gear from crafting.
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>>582156217
Go flush yourself down the retoilet then you asocial shut in.
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>>582156217
why do you think you'd have to talk to anyone to raid? classic raids are literally point and click there are zero boss mechanics you'd need discord or something for
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>>582156231
Good
>>582156141
>>582156279
Shut the Fuck up Retailtranny
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>>582156219
Someone in general chat said he got in by opt-in.
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>>582156195
>It'd be pretty sweet if there are decent craftable sets that are not just stat sticks
There are lvl 60 epic sets datamined at least. What if any set bonuses they have remains to be seen.
>>582156217
>is that viable now?
Yup, you can make som pretty sick leveling gear.
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>>582156156
wetail is bad because of how it integwates content and pwogwesion systems

as long as fowever doesnt fuck up the integwation we'we good
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>>582156217
>i hate raiding i don't wanna talk with anyone in this game
Then why in the flying fuck are you playing a MMO?
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>holy precision 18% hit for 3 points
Isn’t this kinda bonkers? Priests already have the best scaling out of all the casters and they won’t need any hit gear at all, they can just go full damage and do some freaky high damage smites
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>Cant decide between pve and pvp
Whats the worst thing that could happen on a pvp server? With the new server system people cant just go on the stronger server and move back and forth to fuck up the balance

Im pretty sure blizzard will find a way to still fuck it up though
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>pick PvP realm
>pick rogue
>level fast early
>stealth at hotspots
>don't even attack anyone
>just watch people bash their heads in and seethe at each other
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>>582155662
mirin
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>>582156362
fun? mmo games don't mean having to talk to people
>>582156325
yeah but leveling gear
>>582156301
all i've done for raids was on a private wotlk server
i just don't wanna hear the nasal faggots
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>>582156089
>itemization is just retail
Didnt know I had main stat + generic substat on all my gear.
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>>582156408
>Whats the worst thing that could happen on a pvp server?
You get ganked every once in a while.
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How are ele shamans looking?
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>>582142569
AWR
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>>582142569
isnt kargoz the guy who got busted selling heroin to children
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>>582156408
Get ganked for hours on end
>>582156468
Shamans in the history of wow have been giga neglected anon the trend seems to continue
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are we getting a Forever version of ZA?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
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>>582156468
Bad.
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>>582156507
>trend seems to continue
fuck
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>>582156409
>sprint in front of someone close enough for them to spot you
>sit back and watch them spaz out for ten minutes
Almost more fun than actually ganking
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how are people clearing SFK? hitting arugal is like impossible
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>>582156507
>Shamans in the history of wow have been giga neglected anon the trend seems to continue
Massive TRVKE. Enhance is in a good spot right now, but that's an oversight, it won't last. Very likely they'll remedy that with the next patch.
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>horde has a quest to kill refugees in tirisfal
guess Horde is the chud faction now
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>>582156408
worst that will happen is you may (definitely) get camped. this isn't 2005. people these days are more fucked in the head than ever. on the upside, if you're so inclined you can also camp others
on a pve server you may get bored since wpvp adds a lot of danger to the world, but you can always just join a bg to scratch that itch
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>Consecration, blizzard and other forms of AOE giga nerfed
It's so over
>Thorns, ret aura and shield spike are the new aoe meta
We are so BACK
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>>582156507
>someone is going to waste hours of their life ganking me because uhhhhhhhhhh
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>>582156618
oh I'm writing that down too, thanks
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>>582156685
oh god we gotta culture war signal boost this get this on the twitters
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I use retail models or SD based on what I'm playing, not a problem
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>>582156763
They do it for the satisfaction of causing someone else hardship, anon. You really have been sheltered havent you?
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>>582156839
Yep, same here.

For example;

Human ---> SD
Gnome ---> SD
Night Elf ---> SD

Tauren ---> HD
Dwarf --> Probabwy HD.
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>Horde has a quest chain about breaking prisoners out of prison
i guess horde are the woke faction
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>>582156662
just stack hunters
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>>582156923
I use HD for night elf female, they have the old animations with the new model, win-win for me
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Should I do it?
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>>582155401
>outland will never happen
>no garrosh, kael'thas, or illidan (but we get to see his prison cell epic ftw xD)
It hurts
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>High Elfs colonized the Amani homeland

Are high elf fans aware that helfs are israelis?
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>>582157048
hahahaha loooool she's black that's so fucking funny black like a nigger!!! how do you come up with something like that??
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>>582156712
im sure theres some kind of report system for blatant niggers
on wow classic they camped people in discords
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>>582157090
what if the Outland assholes come to us instead?
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>>582156408
>downside
You’re either on asmongolds faction or you prepare for the 1000 player death balls that’ll obliterate you
>upside
Wow is about pvp. PvE is a mini-game to get geared for pvp
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>black mechagnome
>cieling bird
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>>582157183
How would it be written? Illidan is scared of the Burning Legion and going back to futaprison. Kael'thas is now an enemy of the alliance, but also not particularly fond of the Horde either. And Garrosh is a depressed angsty teen with no male role model, so he's not getting off his mom's couch.
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>11 more days of level 20
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>>582157023
I was just talking about the Males, I don't play females. But yeah Night Elf Female HD Model looks way better than the Night Elf Male HD Model.

Night Elf Male HD Model is offensive. Same with Gnome Male HD.
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>>582157240
Totally forgot about the streamerbullshit, they will go pvp server. Might not be as bad on european instances

Sucks to be a mutt now, doesnt it
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>>582157310
>kids before and after tiktok
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>>582157310
>bimbofication of gnomish females
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>>582157336
Not as much as becoming a minority in your own country to dunecoons but yes it’s quite sad here too
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>>582157048
Is it worth possibly being banned?
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>>582156763
Sadistic thirdies and neets love to try to drag others down to their level of misery
Just log off and do something else while they waste their time waiting for you to return
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>>582157414
>Blizzard is actively banning Black people
we are so back
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>>582157409
Sandniggers are preferable to literally raising all prices and sending white children to die for Israel as you are doing currently.
Also what's up with you putting a jeet in charge of the FBI?
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we need to demand an rppvp realm grobbulus was the best server for pve and pvp and eccentric characters doing roleplay and erp
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I personally do
Human > HD (i like the hair)
Dwarf > HD (i like the beards but the faces are worse)
Elf > SD, HD is even softer than SD and SD is already too soft compared to wc3
Gnome > SD, female in particular looks horrid with hd

orc > sd
Troll > HOLY SHIT SD THEY LOOK HORRIBLE IN HD
Undead > sd, again HD looks horrible, makes them look like handsome squidward
Tauren > HD

This is mostly in regards to male btw, I’m not some sissy that plays a woman
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>>582156905
No, schizo, I play PvP realms.
It doesn't happen.
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>>582157310
God the one on the right has such a fuckable face.
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isint it a digital black face to allow non-blacks to make black characters?
how is blizzard not cancelled?
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>>582157048
I mean I doubt you're gonna catch a ban for a slightly sexually suggestive name like that. I strongly doubt there are any account penalties for things other than racism names.

Worst case that's a forced name change.
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>>582157617
>pvp predator trying his hardest to get people to play on his corpsecamp mode
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I play with HD models and maxx graphix and idgaf
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did an eceleb go horde on pve or something, why is there a huge influx of tauren all of a sudden
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>>582157414
Better?
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>>582157721
I wouldn't try because I know how much of a waste of time it is to convince carebears
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>>582156217
>i don't wanna talk with anyone in this game
Just uninstall and kys
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>>582157603
Isn’t a Somali rapist currently a governor in Sweden
?
>raising prices
Yeh but they’re still not as bad as Europe and our wages are still like 30-50% higher with half the taxes

BUT I’m not disagreeing with you, the world is bleak right now, thank god I’m well off and white and my kids go to a mostly pure white school (55% white 80 if you count mutts )
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>>582157741
soda went horde because he grouped with olympus trooned who trooned too hard on alliance.
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>>582157724
Same and I played in actual vanilla
SD models have their charm and some are clearly better than their HD counterparts but overall I use HD unless I play a race with better models on SD
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>>582157742
just dont make a joke character, no one likes them
you will get bored with it after lvl10 too, its just waste fo time
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>>582156408
most of my fights on pvp are rare and sporadic 1v1
beta is a bloodbath because people have nothing to do, but on release people will be bitches trying to level
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>>582157742
>a grown man thinks this is the funniest shit ever
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>>582157617
It literally happend in classic wow. They were talking in discords about attacking specific players and guilds that had a grudge beefing eachother in discords and camping eachother out of raids
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>he doesnt have 40 complete quests in his log

what are you even doing?
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It’s kinda funny, if you’ll excuse me bringing up streamer drama, that asmongold has backtracked from being a Troon apologist like during the Barny era “guys stfu barny is a girl get over it” to “these people are fucking retarded and need medication”
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>>582157946
oh yeah, gonna log on his realm and realm him out right in the realm?
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>>582156386
Paladins get it in their holy tree as well. It does seem odd considering that a number of other classes/specs had the total hit they could get from talents reduced.
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>>582157857
>but on release people will be bitches trying to level
they 100% add some crossfaction map to end their lvling spree
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>>582157310
That's the wrong face, you know you can change the eye color on HD models, right?
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>>582157821
isn't he still on the pvp server? weird that they'd come over here too
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>>582157946
>for no reason
>because you started a beef with someone
not the same
also just layer
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>>582157048
Micro Hohoho
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>>582157967
Up to 30 now, just been kinda lazy. Still a week to go so whatever.
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>20 rogue
>20 warrior
Not sure what to try next.
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>>582157967
>wasting kill exp
lol
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>>582158212
>he doesnt have 40 "talk to" or "pick up x amount of items" off the ground quest
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>lvl20
>there are already tier lists on Jewtube

That's why it will always be inferior to Turtle and CoA as a classic experience
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>>582158176
how about 20 minutes on a treadmill
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>>582158212
>have so many quests to turn in you're instantly lvl 25
heh, nothing personell kid
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>>582158291
Don't have a treadmill, 20 pullups it is then.
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>>582158205
beautiful
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>>582158205
they captured the feel of this zone quite well. war-torn and desolate, yet life goes on while time almost stands still.
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>>582158291
lmfao bodied that freak
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>>582157617
As someone who got permabanned twice in hardcore for griefing literally over a thousand characters to death over the span of a few months

Yes, we do do that, there are discords and guilds that dedicate themselves to fucking over others for their own enjoyment, then we post the rage messages to share our glee with the rest, like trophies
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>>582158291
>millenial freak has to use memes from a 57 year old tv show
go away old man
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>>582148827
I would definitely play ogre even if it was paid and I usually only play the pretty races
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>>582157797
Yeah we are in agreement. Though desu currently the political divide caused by lgbt as well as russian and Israeli propaganda campaigns and all their useful idiots is generally a bigger problem than stabby arabs, which still suck, but are mostly just a symptom.
Also once you step outside a bunch of larger cities they just vanish. Syrians and such living in the countryside are still ticks on our welfare, but other than that they are harmless and generally polite and friendly since they are actual families and not the usual "17 year old who is actually 45".
Unironically certain types of eastern europeans are far worse there in some corners. I mean "hanging up some rotten pig on their balcony" kind of worse.
If we didn't have to eat the consequences it would be pretty funny that both old-/pol/ and Stallman were right about certainly not everything, but uncomfortably many things at the same time.
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>>582142375
hey...
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>>582158508
So you got banned, spent more money releveled and got banned again? Dedicated retard.
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>can't afford the respec
fuck, what now
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>>582158337
It's thankfully EU hours now, but we have to deal with schizophrenic russians seething because classic is dead and their private servers are shut down
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>>582158660
me on the left
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>>582158647
>spent more money
It’s vanilla, all you need is a sub, which you can get for roughly 3 bucks if you bought gold to buy a token, or spent like 3 hours farming in mop
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>>582158508
no you're just a faggot ass troon doomposting with the same iphone syntax every thread, you don't play the game at all fat retard.
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just realized wow pooever is a retirement house for chuds and jaded boomers to talk about politics and not actually a videogame that is supposed to be fun, now it all makes sense
it'll be dead in a month once everyone realizes it as well
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>>582157986
But if you bring up Barny he'll still uhm and errr and tiptoe around it. His principles only go so deep as long as they don't affect his life. As soon as someone he has even a slight acquaintance with troons out it's now protected.
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>>582158757
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>>582157617
>"that thing that several people have experienced over several years?"
>"yea doesn't actually happen"
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>>582158729
>3 hours of work for $15
That's a terrible deal.
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>>582158886
Neets have no concept of time-money
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>>582158310
>level 25 instead of 28
ngmi
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>>582141464
>guys, Forever is for authentic Vanilla experience
>except for classes two tapping mobs
>except for dungeons raining with blue items
>except for blue items making your lvl20 character stronger than Vanilla lvl35 one
>except for every single new secret being datamined and solved on beta
>but the rest is for the authentic Vanilla experience, true true

This fag was Blizzard mouthpiece pushing the narrative that Forever is classic+ and not retail-.
Fuck him and fuck you if you believe in his lies.
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>>582156236
i don't see how anyone could have a problem with it when the trade off is that you're going to have way less gold to get your mount. it's obviously awesome for the beta, but on launch i'll probably just do skinning + some gathering profession anyway.
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They need to sell the blue elf druid forms as transmog.
I want to play tauren druid but the owlbear form looks so cool...
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>>582159084
It's a fake account
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>>582155401
>Thrall has a vision that Sylvanas needs to lead the liberation of Quel'thalas
>Names Sylvanas Warchief
>Everyone is pissed
>Relations are strained
>After the war is over Sylvanas returns the title to Thrall because she isn't fucking retarded
The problem was never Sylvanas becoming Warchief, it's how she got there and how stupid everything that followed was.

>>582155937
Illidan was the Legion's bitch in TFT and the Legion's bitch in TBC, we can beat him up again if we want.
Kael deserved better though and should be the Blood Elf faction leader alongside Theron.
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>>582156148
We know what nochanges retards are like, they campaigned for a terrible version of the game
t. Actual vanilla unc
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>>582159183
have you tried changing it at the barber shop yet?
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everyone...everyone heckin KNOWS...*sobs*....low level niller...it was about the greens...the shitty greens AHHHH *sobs forever*
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>>582141838
that left foot is at a wrong angle
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>>582158746
17 priest hunter 15 shammy, 160lbs. Try again retard
>noticing writing patterns to keep track of people
Oh so you’re the kind of person that a girl says hi to once and then you start stalking them
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I'm going to be an absolute nigger once I get this
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why did they have to ruin woyer...
couldn't they just aura nerfed the damage or something
it's ogre
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>>582159103
>i don't see how anyone could have a problem with it
They're doomjets, they look for any excuse to doom like jeets.
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>>582159542
you're a fat faggy troon bitch retard forgot his faggoty iphone file
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>>582159361
just delete greens from the game if they are not going to be used
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>>582159729
Just don't equip blues if you want to have shitty gear.
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>>582159608
Imagine having that and meeting an alliance member here
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>>582155401
>>582155937
they said they didn't intend to do retarded what-if scenarios that heavily contradict the plot established in wow's expansions, ie arthas always becomes the lich king
they're not gonna 'correct' anything, they're just going to keep expanding the vanilla world
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>>582159867
why not just do more damage if you want more damage? equipping blue gear seems like crutch
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>>582159648
Genuinely get help, you’re psychotic if you are so upset with shitposting on the internet that you start keeping track of anonymous posters. Dahmer tier freak and not in a cool edgy way
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shaman feels kinda weak while leveling compared to classic. lightning bolts barely do any damage
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>listing myself a tank in the group finder for dungeons just to decline and never respond to all the desperate dps that have been trying to form a group for an hour
#beastmode
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>>582160049
not supposed to use it while leveling buddy
just flame shock and lightning shield and swing your 2 hander
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Is it really too late to walk back the Sky Elves and just give us High/Blood Elves? Is nothing going to change their mind?
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>play wowyer
>suddenly want to play a druid
>play a druid
>miss my wowyer
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how bad is the 23/0/28 shockadin build going to be? or will it be a sleeper pick that actually kino and good
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>>582158508
pics or it didnt happen
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>>582160049
they gutted elemental spells
just use 1h and flametongue until you get the mana talent and can spam shocks
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>>582160150
It will be more fun than Soitwisting at least
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>>582158814
>that boogyman story that pve babs tell eachother to justify playing babbymode
>yea its real bro
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>only want to pvp
>warrior is now shit even with a healer

I guess retail won
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>>582160096
>>582160181
sure, but I prefered my lightning bolts actually doing damage in classic. I dont like enhancer.
seems Im not the only one with that impression. maybe blizzard makes them a bit stronger in the full release.
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>>582160106
of course its too late, they made the cinematic, they sold them to millions of people for 30$ they would have to refund it all
never going to happen
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So how are items datamine protected when WoWhead has a ton of items up that aren't on vendors/trainers and haven't yet been found?
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>>582160308
>my entire viewpoint depends on the balance of level 20 pvp
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>>582160308
Remember how you used to bully all these hybrids with your big, fat, whirlwind axe? Now it's their turn.
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>>582160308
also you should be with a paladin not a priest
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>>582148194
Holding a keypress is more stress on your finger than lightly tapping it once a second though
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>>582152847
>>582153442
>>582154015
agp troon pedo janny
kill yourself
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>>582160351
only raid items are datamined
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When should i attempt the hall of thanes dungeon? im a level 12 ret pally
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>>582160362
my entire viewpoint is based on the talent trees I can read, multiple R14s, how other classes have changed and rage generation in the beta
>>582160405
I mean of course pala. Rage gen is bad.
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>>582160462
and not just your fingers but your whole arm, shoulder and neck gets strained when you hold down a keyboard or mouse button for a long time
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What's your luck been with non-4chan originating WoW guilds?
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>>582155392
it would feel so good to be able to smash your hands into red mush with a hammer, so we would never have to see you linking your awful catbox porn links in here, janny
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>>582160527
You could try it now but it's kind of hard hitting
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>>582160527
Shouldnt have much trouble at 13
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>>582160527
first dungeons are balanced for lvl14s
last bosses are lvl16
ofc a priest can heal it at 12-13 but if you are dps or especially tank you should just wait for lvl14 for smoother run and easier to find a group
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>>582160527
>i have 3 talent point that means i'm ret!
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>>582160106
It was probably a ritual.
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bake new thread
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With all the int > AP talents it seems the goal for Paladin and Shaman is to be true spellblades in Forever? Where they'll itemize for int as melee
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>>582160823
its more like you wont hate the int in your hybrid gear as much
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>>582160165
https://youtu.be/jvbJTN28pa0?is=fagYyeyaBTLtUOm1
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>>582160539
> multiple R14s
Not having a job doesn’t mean you know shit
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>>582154808
yes chubby cuddly guys are peak, just be clean shaven
>>582153889
late but hiii
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>>582161030
Trvke
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>>582149748
>>582154765
holy FUCK im bussin, sauce?
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>>582160935
Whyd blizzard add some bullshit mob to horde and alliance for rogues at lvl 20 lol
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is there ANY way to fix human walking animation
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>>582160823
instead of solving the mana problems ret just also builds int now and wants to be a spellcleave mele rather than a str/agi scaler like druid/warrior/rogue/hunter
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>>582160935
>watching low levels get killed to quest mechanics
wowzers
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Does the the ud life leech racial have any value on a warrior? Or am I better off on another race
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>>582157769
Maybe kys first before making such a retarded post how bout that
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>>582161296
of course it has some value
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>>582161271
transition to female in the barbershop
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>>582161296
the racial is really not strong enough for it to dictate your class, anon
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>>582161293
Did you miss the part where he evade bugs the bird ?
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>>582159201
Are you the schizo who insist an addon maker (in the age of laid off sw devs and AI) is some sort of psyop because he can churn out a working good looking addon along with a feature video?
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>>582161296
If you care about minmax then it's either orc or gnome otherwise just do whatever.
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>>582161376
it's 100 dps anon
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>>582161486
okay so you play this game to be a number on a meter?
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>>582161649
i play this game to make my friends happy
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Was Asmon's wow stream fun last night? Do I have something to look forward to after work?
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>>582161714
yea it was bussin, I asked for inv to his layer and got in as well, pogged out and just had to drop 20 gifted
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>>582161403
me? i pick up the quest item and immediately restealth
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>>582160569
Typically kind've aimless and easy come easy go. While 4chan guilds are notorious for psycho-sexual implosions and face-planting on challenging content, at least you know they'll always try, and talk a lot about trying on the way. Non 4chan guilds are always talking about their past experiences in WOW, framing everything around "my" item/class/talent, and they like to go on about how much they worked that morning. You have to choose your own path, there are thorns both ways.
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>>582161810
>drop 20 gifted
the slang today is "become an oiler", anon
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>>582161810
Bro I'm jealous I'm euro so he plays at ungodly times for me. I can only enjoy his vods or YouTube videos
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>>582161921
you have to drop 100 to get the oiler title
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>>582160602
>>582160623
>>582160626
ok thanks anons ill try it at 14

>>582160721
yeah, what about it faggot?
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>We want to confirm that this feature that has received nothing but praise and enjoyment from players is in fact a bug and we will 100% be making these classes more annoying to play for no other reason than it used to be like that. Cheers!
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>>582162195
Well why would my auto attack not also be faster than as a druid? Give it to everyone or no one
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>>582162195
>noooooo you cant just make things that are way too good a little bit worse
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>>582160569
I had 2 GFs from normie guilds over the course, both that I actually got to date and fuck, as well as more success progging content.
4chan guilds tend to be more fun before old cliques emerge like they always do and everything goes down the shitter.
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>>582162195
I hope this makes all the hunter shitters go paladin instead
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>>582162195
Ranged attack shouldn't have any downside. Mages have instant cast time on their main DPS abilities too!
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>>582162357
every streamer is playing hunter atm
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>>582162195
Are they gonna make an SD Jimothy?
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Ngl bros forever doesnt offer enough to make me want to play it over regular classic and im not even shitposting. I dont get it its not even hard to add a race to wow. Goblins would be the easiest fucking thing to bring to forever. Maybe its for the better though. The faster forever dies the better
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>>582162420
>and im not even shitposting
>The faster forever dies the better
okay
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>>582162393
They must be laying low because nobody seems to be talking about how good they are.
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Fun fact: If you buy the paypig edition you get to start 24h earlier.:)
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>>582162195
I hate it i fucking HATE weaving they just had to up and ruin the fun
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>>582162458
yea the project is shit it doesnt take a genius to see that its a bad attempt at classic +
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>>582162478
only if it takes you 24 hours to make 3 characters
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>>582146807
based Q
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>>582162420
>classic is better than literal classic with more features and content
Huh
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>>582162478
i got gifted the collection because my friends like me :3
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>>582162195
It was absolutely retarded and deserved to get fixed.
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>>582162478
For real?? I already have it but didn't know. So I can start November 3 you mean?
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whole race of playable Whitemanes all big fat azz & tiddies
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>>582162614
why are you like this anon? we both know its not literal classic with content
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>>582162478
That would be so great. I still have 2019 classic launch ptsd.
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Can you group with your bnet friends on different playstyle or is that completely off the limits?
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new bredder?
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>>582162640
shut up bitch
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>>582162682
But it is. It's vanilla (which is classic) with more content. That's literally what it is kek
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>>582162728
PVP/PVE/RP are their own regions and cannot interact in any way.
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>>582141910
I play healer so that I don't have to put up with those retarded healsissies and people who think letting their gf heal is a good idea(it's not)
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>>582162760
I gave up after failing the captcha 3 times in a row
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>>582162682
It's pretty much classic with different ui and more quests and better gear. Not even sure that better gear matters that much since Classic lv. 20 with greens or whites is about as strong as Forever with full blues.
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>>582146460
No. I am sorry adult anon-kun, but such is life. I too have a career and take care of my house and pets and maintain relationships with family and friends. It's all so exhausting, but i don't want Blizzard to cede an inch on their design. Give an inch, and they take the whole hand. Cuz it's a slippery slope, and if we say "let us X faster," then we'll have flying mounts, which goes against Forever design. So no anon I'm sorry but accept your fate.
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>>582162857
Bummer.
Guess I'll be stuck surrounded by regular pve shitters again since I want to play with my friends.
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>>582141464
You fucking npcs are so easily fooled
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>>582162707
>2019 classic launch ptsd
You tell me. I was going to do the relics of wakening quest on teldrassil but when I got inside the barrow den and saw the mobs I had an immediate flashback of my team getting overrun by that retarded spawnrate and dying one by one.
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>>582162760
This is the final thread, goodbye.
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>>582141910
I play healer so that I don't have to put up with those retarded healsissies and people who think letting their gf tank is a bad idea(it's not)
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>>582142118
Dont you with blizzard?
30 dollar elf reskin BTW
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>>582141708
While the rest of the post was horseshit
>people are excited and numbers are up during Phase 1
I gotta admit I quit SoD in Phase 1 after getting to 25.
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>>582162707
PTSD? It was nice and calm.
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>>582163335
i did too the bells were going off in my head that it would be just the biggest shitshow. Same this is happening with Forever its just that now i dont need to hit 25 to see it
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Blizzard.. send the beta invites.. it's time..
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>>582163036
this but unironically
>muh hecking classic vanilla og looks
>imports the sky elves bs with their UV blue colors and billions onions out about them

the goycattle Moooost consooom
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>>582149598
What are you, some kind of alliance SPY? Feeding the enemy info on our whereabouts? To the void with you!
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>>582163520
exactlty
if you looked up damage control in the dictionary you would see that twitter post
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>>582163402
maybe on your dead RPtranny server
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>>582162420
the reality is that they had to add hot class to horde so the gooners get their fill.
thats it.
no other reason.
just so gooners can look at their afk screen and trannies can self insert as their ingame waifu
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>>582162478
proofs?
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>>582163520
I've played for over 2 hours and I'm not 60 yet. It's definitely classic.
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>>582163661
>>582163661
>>582163661
FLEE
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>>582155662
fin mogged
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>>582163636
My uncle works for blizzard and told me.
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btw
furry race is next. vulpera or some other shit (probably gilneas werewolves)
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>>582163634
and thats a good thing
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>>582141910
Wow healing is too boring for man to main, unless its pvp
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>>582151808
Agreed. I plan on playing on the RP server and about the only thing I'd use discord is OOC stuff. Give me a tiny, horde RP guild that does everything in-game, no discord, and I really will stay Forever.
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>>582150387
Yes
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>>582151858
Look at the balls on mah boy
Trolls fucking elves is kino.
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>>582151917
The one I feel like bringing. Go back to retail.
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>>582155401
They won't.



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