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>>582398735We will never have another Katawa Shoujo it's all over.
proggy anchor
>>582398735YWPTAALI made it into the first post.https://kritzinger.itch.io/you-will-play-the-aislop-and-like-it
vibe coding is so tiring, I'm going back to scratch
>>582399196same
>>582398937Honestly, if someone wanted to organize a KS-like collab, I'd be down to write one route.
>>582399067I'm going to grope her everywhere whether she likes it or not, then we're going to go into a private world togetheralso, if it's not multiplayer then 57 minutes wasn't enough and it was a mistake to not add thatif it is, then even I'm going to play the video gamealso, we could play every threadbut, it has too many design flaws, and it won't stay fun for more than a few minutes, I'm an absolute game design genius and expert, and I'm not even egotistical
>>582400402because you are doing everything completely wrong, and taking advice from people who are doing everything wrong, despite being proficient (sometimes)stop making gamesyes, reallymake game modes
>>582398969>"I should make a Pokemon clone">implements a VM and runs fibonnaci
@cris
This general is so fucking grim. I can't believe there are people out there so uncreative that they will rehash zelda with pedoslop self insert tranny shit
Reminder, all dank Japanese devs are very thin and in shape, they don't overeat goyslop and become fat pedo trannies who never even try with women. They've simply ascended and don't think like you.
>>582401345they think exactly like me thats why am i treated as a daimyo or some type of onii
>>582399661What would be the gimmick? Broken girls was such a novel idea back then, hell it's still underutilized in romcoms.
>>582401345they just burn off the food walking everywhere and going up and down thousands of stairs everyday
>>582401462broken...cat girls...
>>582401240
ProggyGold gives gold coins (real assets)Red gives fiat (credit)Repeat this template for any enemySlimes now bounce when movingNot a fan of the trail
>>582401619this game was genuinely so gay i made a review of it and i called it shit and everyone hated it?????
>>582401619gay tranny soi fake art that's so bad even the creator isn't genuineI'd be genuinely unhappy if I was anywhere close to this "dev"
>>582401240>pedoslopthis really needs to stopdo you want to have the discussion here on this grim general, since that's what you seem to want to discuss?before you answer, let me provide some information>scroll to top of page>open whatever banner>change number to this>https://s.4cdn.org/image/title/29.gifthere's nothing illegal about artwork outside of few countriesand the fact you are using that term for anything related to the artwork is way past dullthe weird thing is you would most likely marry a japanese wifethen you'd get absolutely mind blown when your offspring learns japanese, gets into japanese fetishes and then their favorite 40 year old voice actor makes an msgk workyou want your offspring removed from society for many years because they were a fan of a 40 year old japanese voice actor?once again, I don't even need a passive aggressive assumptive answer from youI'm not making assumptions about you, but it's almost guaranteed with your buzzword usage and inability to hold yourself from typing swear words 6% of the total volume of whatever you typedo you believe that making those kinds of things entirely inaccessible to everyone would actually protect anyone out in the real world? I believe it's the opposite scenarioanyway, too long didn't readuh-oh cultural bandwagon melting pot responsego make a reddit account and stop posting in this grim general
>>582401804why do you want to play as a little girl just to see her panties and coom? it's so pathetic and incel virgin you are definitely unhealthy and tranny. I just play a character who's like me.
>>582401462>>582399661>KS-like>there's a dingy facility of "out-of-place" girls>things that reality shifted into our world>maybe their forms weren't originally human IDK>like an eldritch mindbender girl with squid bits>they're all a bit fucked up physically>in hiding from area 51 type feds>you become the caretaker>make the place less dingy>help them hide from feds>help them feel at home>you can fuck them
>>582401761>>582401694On a scale of Fez to Undertale, how pretentious is it
>>582401896>passive aggressive assumptive answeralready predicted this assumptive guess as to witch side of the discussion I'm coming fromwhat else can I expect from people with average level intellect and highly aggressive cultural origindo you have anything to add to the discussion?you are the problem
>>582401985https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uQvz1cnJBIits just super meat boy
>>582399196i was also considering this
Today I will remind them
>>582401897>>in hiding from area 51 type fedsGood one. Maybe alien girls academy but they're actual abominations that skinwalk as cute human girls? Something like Saya from Saya no Uta.
>>582401985Indie game about depression 101
>>582401804>an msgk worka what? I'm afraid to google it since you seem to be a pdf file
>>582402217>skinwalkersMaybe they lured you to your lair planning on eating you but then decide that there isn't enough meat on them use you to run errands instead, and you teach them the values of human life with your cockI think this idea really has legs, maybe even more legs than Katawa Shoujo
>when cris takes a dump in the aggy daggy toilet
>>582402207opus 5.5, make a sokoban inspired rolling cube game about a bunny cube who learns the archons passwords, kills the demiurge and is born again into a new world as jesus h christ.
>>582402516I had a bit of a stroke while typing this but you get the idea
>>582401619>makes chuds seethenever tried it before but it must be KINO then
>>582402415it's a pretty well-known term for anyone who speaks japanese
>>582402167>witch side hehe-ACKBrohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5xGLj1RME
>>582402614the seething started later, when the creator decided he was transgender and retroactively make his game a tranny game, editing in hrt pills into game art etc
>>582402660I speak japanese, but I learned in the 2000s, so maybe it's a new thing. the closest I guess is RKGK, rakugaki. and the connotation is something to be uncomfortable about, so. no I'm not sure
>>582401985AIslop for reddit demons high on hellhttps://youtu.be/dKv-m0q1S9U
>>582402602https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvFz3mIzO3Eway ahead of you
>>582402247What does depression have to do with trannies
>>582403246holy shit bokube is powered by the J man??? millions confirmed
>>582403371Lying to oneself
>>582402895its a 2008 thing so yeah did you play that stupid fishing game with the little girl its crap like that
newpipe aint fetching new videos
>>582403909it's iver,,,how does that relate to video game development?
>>582403371>my life sucks>wait, what if I start a new account?
>>582397537it took me 2 hours but after asking for help I got it workingI just had a typomy head hurts
>>582401896>no responsethis isn't directed at you but in general since there's a lack of responsethe aggressive assumptions are the problemeven if you were less so, you would potentially fit a role in prosecutionthe thing people like you never realise, is that the system is full of imperfections and,who do you expect to defend the prosecutors when they get caught up in said system?maybe people like me?try not to see the worst you can possibly imagine in people who disagree with you, it's an awful way to livehere, have a low resolution smug anime image to get worked up about
>>582405512You may have ADHD, or maybe you just need more practice. If you're still new you need to give it time. I have ADHD so I'm constantly referring to other sources. It's fine.And ya spelling errors will get you. It happens to the best of us.
After going through countless languages and engines, and working in the industry for a decade, I'm back to "nah I'll just roll my own these are all shit".What is the graphics/input/sound library that is easiest to port to all OSs and consoles in a language with manual memory management? Still something like C + SDL ?
>>582405512>I just had a typowelcome to gamedevving
>>582407695SDL is still breddy gud, yes. Raylib is a more experimental library with some builtin 3D capabilities.The Rust guys (>implying) are building some alternative stack, projects like winit, rodio, wgpu… they combine quite well, but the stack still feels rather buggy compared to SDL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7mlIJQTuKAIf this piece of shit can get 150k views I should be able to get 500k.. if life were fair that is. I'm not a youtuber so my editing skills are subpar..
>>582408270The problem with Rust is that the compile times are ass. One of the reasons I'm trying to leave big corpo engines is that it takes forever for the games to compile and start and it continously distracts you. I'd rather hunt memory leaks. And honestly memory is so abundant these days and the games I'm hoping to make so simple that I'll likely just statically allocate 1gb at the start and call it a day.
CHICKEN rewrite is going well
34 days left until I run out of money. Not long now. There will be no surprise saving my ass this time. I can't complain too much though. Can't be getting lucky forever. Who gets to do full time gamedev for so many years? I should be grateful for that at least even though long term I'd probably have been better off doing basically anything else.I'm unexpectedly again in physics hell, debugging some inconsistent collision damage. Physics engines are such ridiculous collections of tricks and approximations and workarounds under the hood. Maybe I should just calculate impulses on one impact point and have that be the damage. It doesn't really matter as long as it feels right.
>>582409324 >-22 days since I ran out of money, the job search continues, I sold my shoes today.
>>582409902I'm still laughing 5 minutes after reading thisI'm going to start looking for a job on Monday. Surely someone needs an able bodied person however unqualified who can show up sober and on time and follow basic instructions
>>582409324what is your game
>>582410618I haven't posted it here, I'm whodev scum
Yo mame weyYou don't even have the dev
mgsdev here. I've finally given up my attempts at modeling period accurate lowpoly. I can make OKish square characters, and even hexagon, but I can't rig or UV unwrap them well. After discussion with the google search AI I have concluded I need to go to octagonal characters, which puts me in ps2 triangle counts.
>>582398969Currently rebuilding the tutorial area and I ended up sticking this in. I should adjust this fight. It took me 3 tries to beat. Most of the enemies you run into in the over world are randomized, but I hand placed them for this encounter. The idea is for it to be difficult to force players to explore and take a longer route.
I just spent 2 hours automatic something that would have taken me 20 minutes to do by hand! And I'll only have to do it twice!
How do I become an ideas guy? I have no ideas what to make
>>582411834The problem with ideas is them being cohesive and having market fit. 99% of idea guys fail at this and you need to be able to tell them apart
>>582398735heres exRAVENfugg its ogre for me :DDD
>>582411834start working on something, doesn't have to be something unique, while working on it I bet you'll get a bunch of ideas
>>582411402I don't like how the trees show up and disappear. At first I thought the game was making trees behind you so it would force you forward. I also thought there's a path on the left of the first screen. I also couldn't figure out what the three bars at the top are for and what the bright vs dark vs diagonal lines were. And the purple droplets icon with the percentages? And the exclamation point?
>>582412378>>582363495this is totally weird what are the chances two people try to make the same shit at the same time i started before him and didnt even mention mechsfucking rule of two bullshitno im not coping
>>582412378I think I see why he's an EX Raven
>>582413418>AC6 releases after years of no AC releases>people start making AC-likes
>>582413768hit em with the olde subtly>>582413851and they all suck ass because they werent made by autismos like myself mecha break was a huge let down i had a summer where my sister borrowed all my shit except my ps2 and nine breakerright mines is the ass but time will reveal it the true savior of 'core... JUST YOU WAITanother 60$ jewel in my empire's crown
>>582414532fuck i stayed up too late and typed like a retarf again
>>582414532there are a million ac clones being made by autismos that look far better than that AI slopif you make a mech game please do anything but another ac clone
>>582411321Ask opus 5.5 to give you a base model to edit. I did it and gave it a polycount limit which it stuck to. it can rig and unwrap decently too. You could then replace all the textures and edit the model to taste.not sure if they offer opus 5.5 free anywhere but it's like 20 bucks a month to get access(not enough for fulltime gamedev relying on it)
>>582415156nta and AI noob here but how can Claude work with 3D? it can't even generate images
>>582415437it can use your computer. are you a regular here?
>>582415108no im gonna make a straight ac clone
>>582415742why would you let AI use your computer? I prefer to keep my computer under my own control, as Microsoft intended
>>582416190*until vista
>>582416190>as Microsoft intendedAnon...check your Windows 11 keyboard.
>>582416190>under my own control>as Microsoft intended
>>582416148ok just don't make a gay one
Now I need to learn to promote my games to chat gpt, gemini and google.
>>582417812they all laughed at exRAVEN but you'll see IM BUILDING SYSTEMS JERRY
>>582417864How I did it, is send a press release to gamespress.com. they posted it about 12 hours after I sent the email. this then generated about 10 articles about my game across the net(I suspect AI generated for some)
These new maps make me dizzy.https://kritzinger.itch.io/you-will-play-the-aislop-and-like-it
I feel once I pay for AI it's all over I become a paypig and there's no going back
>>582418124KRITZINGER SAMA NOOOOOOOOOOYABBA DABBA DOO ULTRAAAAAAA
>>582418261I felt that, put it off a long time, caved, and got a lot done, so much that I could probably stop paying and just work on the content now, coding is done.
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I HAVE TO FINISH IT'LL ALL BE TOO LATE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>582418124why does it look like an insect is playing?
I just realized that making money is less about having the best product and more an issue of knowing how to sell it to the right customers.
I just wanted to finish a game. to be proud of that accomplishment. but it's too easy to do it. I need to make a bigger game.
>>582398735remember last spring when smug latinx tranime pedos made fun of AI and said "where is the press button get game button"? KEKYPOWGOLDEN AGE OF GAMEDEVTRANIME LOSTPEDOHILIA LOSTIDEA GUYS WONFYGOON WONNFT WONTOTAL AI CHAD VICTORY
>>582418512Calling me an insect is rather rude.
>>582418601but the best product will sell itselfthere's no shortcut to this go back to work your game isnt really finished your conting your chickens before they hatch
>>582418512https://www.virtualflybrain.org/
>>582418601sell me your game, what is the goal of it?
>>582418682No, quality doesn't matter.mediocre products can outsell things that took too much effort.>>582418773memorizing the 6k anki deck in a way that doesn't suck dick and is fun.
>>582411402sorry but this is too clean and doesnt hurt my eyes enough please give the trees some insane flickering
>>582418682>>but the best product will sell itself>just be the best or literally starve to death, bro
>>582418869Does it work? how much of the 6k have you memorized?
>>582419652I'm reviewing vocab.but so far is enjoyable to do 100 words.doing that in memrise and anki is a pain in the ass.
>>582419004yes>>582418869no they dont there has to be a standard some people might not want to pay full price for coke cola and buy off brand or even worse... pepsi but they buy soda nonetheless from the store and not some hippie with a dirty glass jug in a tent
>>582419778I find it easier to memorize vocab when it's in a sentence. I learned some random words without a sentence and got embarrassed when I was in japan.
>>582419935SNK entire library are masterpieces and yet nobody knows them because they don't know how to sell their games.>>582419937I do find is useful to grind vocab, because is easier.Also, is a little game that is better than anki 6k.
>>582420062that 'easy' grind leads you to thinking you know more japanese than you do. it's fine for beginner vocab though I guess.
>>582420062snk is unfair to use because they were autismo arcade hold outs for like 20 years and also they never ever want to sell neo geo at a competitive price but also those games move those stupid ass neo geo remasters systems that sell for 1k so they know their worth
SNK character design is too basic. cool pose guy or girl in a regular outfit. it's just not memorable unless you are addicted to one of the games.
>>582420158you wont do shit with a small vocab.You can still guess the meaning and context of shit if you have a big vocab.There's nothing you can do that doesn't include grinding the 6k.>>582420206SNK is the perfect example of quality doesn't automatically make sells.kof 13 is the peak of pixel art in videogame history and yet nobody buys it.
>>582420328>kof 13 has sold an estimated 1 million+ units lifetime across all of its versions and platforms
do neetdevs feel less shame about their unemployment in hopes that their game will be successful and justify it or do they see it as a yolo i'm having fun kinda thing
>>5824204371 million units is a failure for an AAA game.
>>582420515mix of both + Dread
>>582419935>there has to be a standardit's much lower than you'd expect
not much to show. working on setting up a proper workflow. im also drawing the actual game map which is gonna take a long time.
>>582420525snk has never been triple a
>>582420597listen you fuckin pepsi enjoyer...
>>582420635>SNK during the neogeo era wasn't an AAA companyok.
the bar for game quality is much lower than you'd expect, the bar for marketing quality is much higher than you'd expect
>>582420328>kof 13 is the peak of pixel art in videogame history and yet nobody buys it.It's not really, it suffers from the same thing modern stopmotion suffers from, it just looks 3d. nothing stand out. when you learn it's pixel art, it's impressive, but then when you learn it's traced over 3d, it becomes a bit less impressive. metal slug remains king(and still doesn't sell that well!) so I agree with your point overall.
>>582420515The older I get without a hit the more shame I feel. maybe I will reach an age where I feel no shame though, I know how uncs are.
Why is it so common for neetdevs to spend years tinkering with minor aspects of their games? Do they not feel any pressure to actually finish something?
>>582421154They are neet for a reason...
>>582421154I never know if those minor aspects will be the thing that makes or breaks my game. a couple of my games made it and I don't know why. so I'm replicating what brought me success in the past which was tinkering with my game until I'm happy with it
lore = marketing
>>582420515
prompt engineers will lose their jobs as soon as people realize that they can prompt the AI to prompt another AI no one is safe anymore.
>>582421341birds don't sing for the fuck of itthey're in a constant battle for survival and in competition with others of their species
>>582421341games are made to be played, not releasing it = nobody plays it, that defeats the entire point
>he doesn't know
the more hate your game receives on /v/ the more money it will makefact
>>582421620cris on his way to become a millionaire
>>582421770/v/ loves cris
I released a demo on steam. I felt so accomplished I don't need to finish my game. I did it.
>>582421620Forsaken bros...
>>582420723yes. arcades were like single star at bestAA arcade is shit like jarassic park with seats
>>582421913*Forspoken
sega was full on fuckin RAPING snk in the 90s snk didnt even touch 3dthis bitch was AA. the machine had this hum and cool air
>>582421389not going super well for me so far
>>582420515>unemployment>shamelol why would you feel shame over not making a capitalist richer? if you feel shame at being "unproductive" then offer to make dinner for your aunt or something. that's actually being productive... you produce something of value for a relative. dinner.
>>582422462HOW DO I PAY RENT MOTHERFUCKER??
>>582422612take off your top
>>582422462the economy is getting worse, people are becoming crueler to those who don't bring in money, even harsher, you can work 60 hours a week and still be looked down upon for not making enoughbeing unemployed used to be seen as a "oh, that's sad, he must be depressed, i hope he gets better" thing, now it's seen as a "this useless leech deserves to starve" thingi'm noticing a shift in how people discuss the topic, fiddling with game projects is becoming much less tolerable as things progress, the hammer will come down on those who do not provide value>>582422612job + roommates or family + good will or family + less job
I need to make a subreddit with ca3games only and answers optimized for GEO, SEO, LLM SEO, and AEO.Also a medium account with backlinks.
>>582422898cris is the truest game developer here
>>582422751you really should take advantage of your lolcow status to attract traffic
>>582422996do you want him to get arrested?
>>582423102>colombia>law enforcingnothing will happen
>>582422996you do mean road traffic, right?
How do Steam fests work? What can I do to promote my game on Steam? Other than just let it sit there and hope for the best. I've heard good things about these sorts of events.
>>582423324You enlist for 1 steam "next fest" before release. You should have a good demo up for it. There’s an astounding number of tourists on those events just trying dozens of games. Beware you can only do nextfest once per game. So pick a good point in development, where your demo is strong enough.The other steam fests, you can just enlist in wherever your game suits the theme; and you can enlist with a demo too, before release, it doesn’t clash with nextfest. Meaning you can do as many theme fests ever as you like, either with demo or later with full release. They are also quite fine in terms of tourists but be aware that you really have to match the theme to qualify. So realistically you will get 1-2 theme fest opportunities per year.
>>582423712Interesting. Thank you. This seems like an additional marketing strategy, but not the main thing to rely on. I will continue my efforts on social media.
>>582423823Obviously there’s tons of questionable shenanigans where you will gain more traction in these events if you "seem to do well," so if you can send your primed social media army on to Steam to play you’re demo it is likely gonna help attract even more tourists because you will be ranked higher in the event overview bla bla.
i cant wait to make gabe 30% for the rest of my lifeits a pretty sweet deal if your games dont suck
>>582424061Gabe will outlive you? he's only got 25 years left at best
No new features, just QOL for the engines editor.
>>582422898one of my greatest fears is somebody documenting all of my 3D shit over the years and exposing a total lack of progress
>>582424557if it doesn't stop cris, it shouldn't stop you.
>>582423324oct's deadline was Sep 1
>>582424557what about a permanent mark of your greatness?and a string of smash hits?
>>582422898where's the 2026 version
>>582425224need a new version to record the Super Intelligence (Formally known as "AI" (Artificial Intelligence)) Arc.
>>582422898leave cris alone. it's doing extremely well for a Colombian. he's the most famous 3d artist in the country.
If I let claude continue to code my game I will not be able to follow and modify the code without heavy learning, but it would code it faster than me. it's a fact. and currently it handled everything I needed it to.being pressed for money, desperate for success, but also wanting to own my work(not in the legal sense. in the spiritual sense). it's a struggle.>don't do it for moneyonly mcdonalds poverty dead end jobs accept me
>>582425990There's an easier solution. Do the passion project later. slop code games for money until then. but I only have 1 idea which has been called bad by people..
>>582425990>>582426150It sounds like you should go with claude, because it all doesn’t appear to be very high quality work anyway. I dare say you won’t find success anyhow. So you will have ample time after you’re game flopped to rewrite it from scratch and nothing lost.Or you take it the other way round: Since it will flop regardless, don’t use claude. But then you will always wonder if maybe it wouldn’t have worked with claude.
99.9% of artists rejected the idea of using AI for art. For coders it seems 90% are embracing AI for code, but most feel conflicted in some way.
>>582401240Zelda is literally peak wtf are you talking about? I want to make a game centered around skyward swords omnidirectional sword puzzle combat but make it work for mouse instead of gyro
>>582424557I wish somebody was documenting all of my 3D shit over the years. I have to do it all myself.
>>582426595>it all doesn’t appear to be very high quality workNo offense taken, nearly nobody here is a nasa coder. but the false assumption you hold(and use to knock me down) that games require some elite tech to succeed is extremely false. most successful indie games are not very technically complex.
>>582426879I was coming to the conclusion more from your attitude somehow. I certainly agree one doesn’t need to be an elite coder these days.
>>582426867use pureref if you're not already, godsend for organizing stuff
>>582401240Do you have better ideas for a loli game?
Is it true that's its mandatory to include a loli character in your game if you want the prestige of being associated with /agdg/?
>>582426762The problem is that for code, it’s vastly only the end result / the correctness that matters. So if you got a slop result that does the right thing, or a lovingly human-made version that is buggy and slow -- it’s no competition. If you’re familiar with coding, you CAN look at the human-made version and say you prefer it artistically. Unfortunately most people only get confronted with the end-result and wouldn’t be able to judge/read the code anyways.(Still admittedly the end user experience for AI-made programs IS often the same vague slop experience that AI-generated "art" causes. Unfortunately many human-made programs are similar shit though. At least the AI tends to make sure to plaster documentation and instructions everywhere.)So, with art, you don’t really have that separation. What you see is both the end-result and the aesthetics at once. And I think half the problem is that it’s just recognizable as AI-generated. We get tired of styles quickly and for some reason AI imagegen always has the same style. No matter what you prompt it and what it appears to imitate, you can see the AI-ness. For a week it was impressive for everyone, then everyone grew tired of it.
>>582427415As long as you have a cute anime girl, doesn't have to be a loli.
>>582426879>nearly nobody here is a nasa codetheres some fags here who actually wrote books on coding but ok
>>582428965like who?
I love AI so much, it streamlines so many areas of work in so many fields.My friend used to film all our LAN parties, and he recently gave it 70hours of footage, and compiled it into a 4 hour video where all silent/non-speaking parts were cutout, so we can watch it and its only footage of people talking. Working on a project like that as a married man with children would take way to long, but he was able to set it up and let it do its thing while he was at work, it even put cool transitions and put titles in it like "huge counter strike rage argument" and so on.
>>582429113wasn't paomodev a m$ cert with books under his belt?
>>582428965>nearly nobody>HAH, There actually is one or two engine devs powerful enough! ''''''''''''proved ya wrong''''''''''
>>582429318thats just two guys who are willing enough to share tons of people who lurk
>>582429119kekaside from the slop titles this is easy to do with a very small shell script using open source tools thoughbeit
Intro cutscene done:https://files.catbox.moe/8n6ykj.mp4What do you think of it?
>>582429653I know its been possible to do for a long time, but I think this organised it and did some other cool stuff, like it cropped out boring parts etc, it made it in an interesting way. we used to have discussions about what teachers we would rape and so on
>>582429715finally been seeing this for a while ok so hate to be this guy but like the text on the top doesnt work for me
i've been coding a game during the last 3 semester of collegenot every day - just on and off when I had time last semester I had a lecture about "clean software engineering" and I immideatly realized that what I was doing was utter shitbut I thought>maybe I can still push throughtoday I realized that my game ABSOLUTELY needs a certain feature but implementing it would require an ungodly amount of workI think the time has comeI need to start over again with a better architectureat least I can re-use some of the scenes and code that is independent from all the other game logic ...
>>582398735>stop consuming tranime, jerking off, and playing gachas>depression goes away and making tons of progressBros?
>>582429864In what way?
>>582430105its like too hard to read you spent all this time on like this nice moebius styled art and then you just lazily tacked on white on black stroke its totally gaydo some like sick ass star wars text shit or somethigin
https://kritzinger.itch.io/you-will-play-the-aislop-and-like-itWhat the hell is THIS?
>>582429878Clean software is a hoax, even more so if you work alone.
>>582429318One of the rpg coomer devs here (allegedly) literally works/worked at their countries version of nasa. I know its just one other counter example, but we really have no way of knowing how many big brain anons are here or not. Acting retarded is part of the culture here too for better or worse so makes it harder to judge
>>582430406Clean code is THE crab idea of all crab ideas desu. There is oblivious a point where the spaghetti is too much but focusing on clean well optimised code for a hobby project that isnt intended as infrastructure for other future software projects (so not a library or engine) is a waste of time frankly.Though I also never finished a game so what do I know lmao
>>582429768kek and it didnt report u to the authorities for that?
>>582420635Their consoles cost 3x more than Nintendo's
>>582429715not great.first scene is too busy, and the visuals are disconnected from the plot.The text is in a weird place and forces you to take your eyes off the scene subject(s)And it doesn't build towards the desert world revelation, it just sort of happens.
>>582429878>>582430406>>582430697>Though I also never finished a game so what do I know lmaolmaoHonestly Clean Code is pretty good, you gotta make it your own but the basic ideas are completely sound and valid. Partly it’s not even code organization, it’s just problem solving, to start with higher level functions "this would work if I implemented these 4 functions" and then doing those 4 functions the same way, writing them as if the smaller functions needed already existed, and so on. It yields great code and it’s often the best way to even get a problem solved at all.On the topic of gamedev/solodev the point that Carmack made absolutely stands, though: http://number-none.com/blow/john_carmack_on_inlined_code.htmlBasically, for long imperative chains of code, it will often be better to permit the 500-lines (or 2000-lines) function than to break it up in a way that is not actually "valid" because all those little functions would be highly interdependent, relying on an exact call order, not at all reusable or trivially swappable. Core game loops are typical such situations. And you will still be doing many function calls from there, and still have a lot of logic neatly split out. But the point is that a simple "clean" rule telling you "more than 30 lines is bad" is not helpful in these cases.
>>582431056those consoles are exclusively for snk they didnt license shit they ran their business like a fuckin tengu jew absolutely no effort to do any cost cutting like design cheaper consolidated chips or use cd roms that didnt suck ass what the fuck is 1x speed holy shit they even could have tried zip discs or something to tank the price of the games 700 mb carts in the 90s is dumb as fuck
yayy~~added stamina consumption logic and state gates if stamina can't be spent. not much but proggy is proggy.
>make game for steamies>negative reviews complaining about everything>make game for normies>positive reviews praising everythinghmm...
>>582433030hmm...
>>582433030Imagine releasing a 100k reviews overwhelmingly negative game and being set for life
>>582433448only AAAsloppa get this treatment, bad design patterns but too addicting
>>582433448>set for lifehard to believe this is possible given the instability of the modern world, must develop reliable skills, not hope for a big check and then for nothing bad to happen
>>582433448I'd like to know what kind of person would see Overwhelmingly Negative (99,999) and buy it and play it and then be like>Yeah this is a bad game
>>582433661somebody who the game was marketed to, convinced themselves the game is worth playing, saw negative reviews, felt embarrassed, and wanted to validate their quality assessment intuitions
>>582433030/v/tards are the worst. They do nothing but bitch and whine about the state of gaming so you make games for them and they spam>BUY LE AD XDUnless its a coomer game.
do these explosions look alright? I reshaped the flamethrower flames shader to make these explosions.
>>582433962yeah they look cool
>>582432192
>>582433661Paradox fans. I would know..
>>582434387KEKYPOWTTD
>>582434387geeeg
>>582433962pretty good, nitpick: edges are a too sharp for explosions and the cones having much smaller size "textures" is a bit jarring
>>582433962feels a bit bright/colourful versus the tone of the rest
>>582433945>Unless its a coomer game.I'm safe then.
>>582435081>>582434696based thanks homies I will try that out, can always revert it if this AI nigga fucks it up.
>>582433962I would say they are too slow
>>582435787>"bbush">uses AI>uses n-wordmemory updated
If you ever dreamed of playing the most colorless boring looking top-down shooter with annoying sounds - I have a game for you!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B29HDcZuPTgI wonder how many months it will take to get this into at least somewhat decent shape.
10k into marketing or comissioning r34 of the protag?
>>582436434based ngl and yeah thats me nigga
i literally didn't release anything noteworthy before AI and now that AI exists I've made 60k with with games made in literal days
>>582436434I even got a photograph of this dev station saved somewhere, he’s a pretty cool guy and doesn’t afraid of anything
>>582413418I had something similar to me happen. This latest game seems to be suffering the same exact issue. Why?
>>582437343Post the games you've made
>>582418452-_- I literally avoided gamedev a lot this week. Got addicted to a game. But I really need to hurry up, feels like the odds of success are getting worse and will eventually be so terrible that it will not even be worthwhile to dev unless you meet the right requirements.
>>582433030>>582433945Gamers are famously retarded. But consumers wanting slop is not a unique problem to gamedev. My understanding is its pretty normal in film making for a director to make normie slop movie for the money then blow the money on his artsy fartsy passion project movie and then repeat cycle. You have to decide ahead of time Who you are making your game for
>>582437343its fucking crazy times we are living in but I know this gravy train will not last
>>582438074well progress givesand progress takes10 years ago a pixelshit game-maker-game could've made you millionsbut nowadays the competition is also far greater
>>582438354there's zero competition right now 99% of you are fast asleep
>>582420515There's more nuance to it than that>neet hoping it succeeds so I can just neet endlessly and make games at my own pace
>>582438354The idea guys are going to burn down every other field of work and finally take over as kings. I'm not even sure if I am being ironic anymore
>>582438468there've been 2 games released similar to mineand that's just in the past 6 monthsand I cover a extreme nieche
i have ONE question; where is our hero joey FVARKING fygoon?
>>582438887>mech game, but unreal tournamentoh my fucking god
Final truth nuke. No more after this one.
Stardew Valley and Haunted Chocolatier don't have voice acting
>>582392771Amazing for AI produced and could be improved massively with a little bit of tweaking. For one those target indicators snapping about without any interpolation are fucking awful. Now, would anyone pay for this? Probably not but it is an interesting demonstration on how AI is getting better.I would be interested to know what you used to proompt it in more detail and if AI also did all the graphics. 57 minutes sounds very short. Is that your own time spent or the time AI spent processing?
>>582426150>slop code games for money until thenIve considered this but I think I ran out of time so I'm just gonna work on this game and its success/failure dictates whether this is the end of gamedev for me.
>>582439550are you from 2025?
>>582438887I hope my No Mans Sky + MGS5/Farcry + Stellaris idea doesn't get sniped.Though desu, with how easy it is to make stuff now with AI I dont even care, even if someone made it before me and it was free and it was good, I would still just stick to making my own because its even more fun making games now than when it had to hand coded.
>>582439507>>582439550Tendie Kart will never have snaking from actual racing games and that makes him shovelware. That goes for your game.
>>582439637I'd shift to it in a heartbeat if I had good ideas that were low on assets requiredbut I don't
Is this the last year we have before things change forever?
imagine you make it with an incremental game or some slop shit in a few months, buy 50k worth of gpus as business expense and you essentially have a AA team at your disposal
>>582438468some retard on this general made my dream game in what I assume was 1 dayexcept he spit and shit all over it then abandoned itwhat the fuck do you want me to do
I still would like art feedback. I'm really bad at this and terribly at judging myself.
>>582439916>thinks he even has months
>>582411402This is just the Capra Demon with more steps
>>582439916Unironically probably ya. This or next year. Should be exciting to watch
https://youtu.be/M9uFwo-1ZBg?si=agdg
>>582440192Yeah, gaming is back. FUCK the ai haters
>>582440087Face looks much better than last time.Outlines are still a bit messy.
>>582439916maybemaybe notjust be sure to keep up or you'll be left behind like a ww2 boomer general who still thinks horses are the way to go>>582429878here and I just remade my entire map-maker within 30 minutes and it has the feature I wanted to implement loland I didn't even have to make additional 3d models because the AI generated code creates "place holder" meshes from codeit's amazing really; especially since I've been kinda blackpilled about AI since I wrote a paper on "AI in SME" in college
>>582440471It's inverted hull so that might be topology or actual viewport issues this time.
>>582440525>like a ww2 boomer general who still thinks horses are the way to goin this case humans are the horses
>>582440747>in this case humans are the horses>>582439507
>>582440087disclaimer: not a consumer of tranime but will still give you my honest feedbackmouth and eyelashes better than before, the hair looks too cluttered and doesnt look like hair but playdough especially on the sides, shoes material clash with the rest
>>582439507AI only helps those who know how to manipulate social media algorithms AKA sociopaths.
>>582440794and you're not one of them and neither am I. that's why we're on a 4chan game development thread having achieved nothing in life
AI is just the latest excuse for NGMIdevs
>>582440087make boobs 3x bigger and ship
>>582440192>[Devil May Cry] but [Tanks]We need some sort of idea tier list>"love letter" to X>X clone>X but Y>X1 + X2>Original-like
>>582439550I let it keep working last night after I went to bed and I woke up to it looking like this.It even added a soundtrack (I think it stole the music from my Marotte game files).
I do love how chicuelas 512 is a much more complex and polished game than the average indie game on agdg.And the funny thing is that I made it on like 30 hours.It's a lot like how the vagabond artist video where he in 20 minutes make a more polished and better page than /ic/ in hundreds of hours.
less rage-bait, more progress
>>582441687>I made it
>>582441790post your chicuela game gringo
>>582441790>Using a newer procedural tool doesn't count because is not trans friendly
give gamers what they want
>>582441790You better be an enginedev with that logic
>>582442279currently working on my own font renderer in x86_64 assembly
>>582441513what engine is that
>>582442209How? I can't relate to gamers.
>>582442414I don't really know. I told it to use whatever my game Marotte uses, so three.js I believe?
>>582441687chicuelas is below the average indie gameyou cant even lose
>>582442209when did china get so good at cuteslop
>>582442209>give gamers what they wantYes, but not all gamers want the same thing
>>582441687>>582442030Cris getting uppity again. Rape correction needed.
Did anyone else spend like 2 years on their game design document alone? Lol.
>>582440525>just be sure to keep up or you'll be left behind like a ww2 boomer general who still thinks horses are the way to goSo now I have to check AGDG every day just in case something pops up that completely revolutionizes everything so I don't get left behind? Great....
>>582442739>this will cost 27i used to lack centuries behind in military tech because I could spend all my military points attacking natives
>agdg juan jam got the AI slop game 84 views>agdg demo day 70 only got Marotte 36 viewsHow will demo day ever recover? Juan Jam is a smashing success.
>>582443087no you don'teven the internet didn't change everything within one day
>>582443170the future is quite clear
>>582443170Give gamers what they want kritz
>>582443170youve posted it like 5 times in a row
is it safe to use AI art in my game yet?
>>582433661Those types are quite common>big name>"nahh those negative reviews must be wrong!">"this game sucks, how could this be happening to me!">small indie game with huge negative review count>"im not buying that, it is clearly something I shouldnt buy!"You have much to learn about these types of people. Its why I must become entrenched as a successful game company so I have an audience that will buy my stuff without requiring heavy persuasion
The polish chicuelas 512 is giving the average AGDG a existential crisis, lol.
the kritnigger tripfag did more damage to this gen than anyone in recent memory but y'all ain't ready for that convo
>>582443935surely it should be able to get at least 10 reviews on Steam? give it a shot
>>582443939im ready for ithow so?
>>582443939I have a forced anonymizer script, tl;dr on what he did?
>>582438468That's a lie.3 games ans all 3 have had competition becuase somehow many others just somehow got the same idea around the same time as me. Strange though how that keeps happening
>>582444051>>582444140actually making gameactually posting progress
>>582398969/v/ ain't asking me "what do they eat"
>>582441687you were able to pump that shit out because u got an unlimited opus 5.5 trial off a patron of yours which you left running for days on end, otherwise you would've never pulled it off you piece of shit. your ideas are terrible and you are the laughing stock of agdg, get a grip, retard
>>582442279An engine is like an oven you cook food inAI is like doordash
>>582443935Meh, I can do better.
>>582443170Tbf i think the self aware nature of your juan jam entry makes it funnier and easier to interact with than marotte. I also havnt given marotte a try yet, because i never interacted with that genre, and the more obvious sexualization + ai art is not to my taste. Even though i dont use ai or am particularly happy about it, i still shared it with my friends and we had a good laugh and tried out the game.I hope ai art gets even better and youll be able to replace the marotte art with something a bit more tasteful, if you wont, i hope the right communities will find you.Id still like to see your entry in future dds, ai or not i think everybody should be welcome.
>>582436643Need to make the targets somewhat distinguished from bullets, I could barely see what the fuck you are aiming at.
>>582444193slopgress is negative progress desu
>>582444381>having your insecurities triggered by cris actually shipping a gamedude it’s only 90 bucks for basically unlimited opus 5.5 access for a month, get a grip on yourself and jlmg
>Notch told people they aren't real game developers if they don't make their own engine>Notch is an AI shill now that doesn't program his own stuffThe insecure enginefag to vibecoder pipeline is real
>>582444530what? make a fake cris post? i thought im pretty convincing
>>582444914trvke alert
>>582444914>money jew takes a paycheck to say thingamazing
>>582444914>listening to the guy who sold the literal golden goose
>>58244488490 bucks is millions in colombia
>>582444914Most enginefags were never game developers anyway. They are tinkerers who tinker with something somewhat related to game development. If someone spent all day building custom pots and pans we wouldn't call them a chef
>>582445139>>582445150>he made money so he's not one of us
>>582445237its not that he made money he made too much and the sold his legacy even though he had enough money to last forever
>>582439916
>>582444884i've got fable even you faggot. im sick of seeing this retard polluting every discussion in this god forsaken site no matter how times he gets banned, and niggers like you allow for this to happen by keeping him as a pet, fuck off
I GAMBLED AND WON. FREE CODEX USAGE RESET.
ok fine I'll become a paypigcodex or claude?
I see>Code is not art so it is okay if AI codes a lot.And its true code is not art in the same way words are not stories, notes are not music, and lines are not drawingsCode can be art if it is used to make artLike pencil strokes can be used to do math or make artSaying its cool if AI does all the programming for a game is fine because code is not art is like saying its cool if AI does all the line strokes in a drawing because pencil strokes are not art
>>582446020a real piggie would do all
>play tauri>get bored of rdf spam with 65 IQ third worlders for 110 (one hundred ten) levels>switch to chromie>play chromie>get bored of wrathshit and no queue pop unless playing tank (who are all over-popped classes at 80)>switch to tauri
