>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoWSet in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, loot, graphics and much moreMany new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanMore than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - EU, PvP, Horde<Little Space> - NA, PvP, Alliance>Previous>>582819139
satyrs for allianceif the nelves don't like it they can join the horde
<wowfg> won, ta guelleOn live release we are going to make the <OLYMPUS WOWFG> guild and get one thousand members and Asmongold will say my name on la streamI am finalement rid of you piss server andies, I was always meant for bigger things. In two months I will be the funny French McConnellRet sidekick of Asmongold and have 5000+ viewers on le TwitchAu revoir /wpsg/, c'est la vie
>>582838545remember we could have cool op pic landscapes like this but the janny pedophile bakes our threads with literal fag coded disney art style shit slop
>>582838654what if they dont go Horde?
SURELY I will get a beta invite this week r-right? RIGHT?
>>582838647post full coward
>>582838953It's for the best. Experience it fresh as God intended.
>>582838953
>>582838953yeah bro as soon as you pony up
>>582838953surely you can make $60 in a couple weeks?
>you get to be in charge of one enemy factionWho do you pick?
>been enjoy a comfy leveling experience on Era while retards got baited into paying to play a "beta" (demo) that caps off at level 20>every single red flag the past few weeks has shown you are just getting retail->coping reaching critical levelsEvery single one of you deserve the shit Blizz is brewing up.
Tom Ellis confirmed fired. I have inside info. Not gonna be announced, they are just gonna let things die down. A quiet exit. Clampdowns in effect on unhinged employee social media posts in effect. Emergency PR lessons given to remaining staff. Blizzard does NOT want this launch to be fucked up. Chuds won.
>>582839140Twilights Hammer
What reskinned races do you think they can do? Dark iron dwarves seems very doable for alliance with some breakaway faction similar to the thorium brotherhood.
>>582838654Tabernak esti de criss, I pay taxes so frog fags can play WoW
>>582838782>adult male with beard>reeeeeee pedoyou should probably take a break from the internet
>>582838953The only true advantage is just seeing the new quests so you can add them into your leveling path to not be bugged down by the zero on launch Nelf has a furbolg quest down the road so you grab it before doing the barrows and an escort in the barrow you do on the way out.Orc have a shitty off tempo Naga quest you now do with fizzle, before the final mop up north, thunder lizard quests in org and after harpies (with an elite quest drop). And an escort in Kolkar i didnt see at first.Elwynn was the least beneficial, still as straightforward as ever. There's quest in Azora I guess you shouldn't forget.
>transmog BAD>most popular consume in classic is savory deviate delight
>>582838976it's in last threadhttps://files.catbox.moe/qj2hi6.png
How do you respond to this without sounding like a full-blown blizzard shill?
>>582839504Nta but I've barely counted any new quests so far, I'm guessing most come later.
best pvp class if i have a submissive femboy pocket healer?
>>582837054Huh. I always pegged the gnomes. as being non-combatants, Warcraft 2 is a combined-arms strategic simulation and I interpreted the gnomes as the engineers that designed the weapons, not the soldiers actually using them.> In wow the explanation is that the gnomes were too busy dealing with the problems in gnomeregan to participate in the third war.That and building the Deeprun Tram. In the Beyond the Dark Portal novel, Mekkatorque talks about needing help fighting giant rats in the tunnels.
I played Horde in vanilla and Classic. Never really played Alliance but I tried a Dwarf Shaman in the beta and now I'm considering Alliance. I'm going to play pvp so I have to choose. Having a tough time. I am thinking either Undead Priest or Dwarf Shaman.
>>582839705Well at some point when everyone just keeps saying the same thing over and over and over, it feels less like criticism and more just a talking point for the case of shitposting. Like holy shit how many fucking times do I have to see>not banned for RMT>banned for racist nameBefore I think people are just unironic bots in how they always say the same thing?
>>582838782Forsaken are so cool...we could have had dark rangers but nooo had to have blue elfs.
>>582839421the Council of Three Hammers was already a thing bro the Dark Iron have been part of the Alliance for 16 years
uh oh melty
Keky
>gore postingwho did we upset today?
Will Joardee do raid guides and WA packs for wowf?
>>582839502members of the dog dick dildo retail brigade should stay in their dead genera, coping about their dead version of wow, everyone fucking hatesl
real thread>>582819287>>582819287>>582819287
Best alternative to Westfall?
>>582839931YUM YUM YUMMYROOOOOOGo to chugand grab the kino
They are thinking about adding a extreme weather modifier and you will have to grind rare furs to survive the cold. They are adding 3 new armor slots for this to equip them. Also since the new zones are so isolated you don't simply get resources from the zones and walk out with them, you will have to refine them in your camp sites and build supply trades to ship them to stormwind or orgrimmarThere will be no NPC towns in these new zones it will be completely sand box with player build towns providing stuff with Flight Paths, Player Built Portals , Inns, etcPlayer Built Boats are coming along with a profession for it maybe next expansion or this one. .Professions Survival , Ranchers,Carpentry, Research professions, also new type of Kilns, Pack Animals & Cart Mechanics ,Smith, Tanning stations buildings you will have to upgrade to 5 versions, there will be no NPC versions of this stuff like in Classic/Retail. Players will build all these new profession buildings and maintain them at the campsites in the new zones. Half Elf, Goblins, Vrykul classes being added team is still deciding if every class can be one of these Death Knight - Aggressive Tank, Big burst pom pyrolike combo, dark magic, shieldsTinker, Guns - robots, flamethrower, turrets, very little party supportWitch - Healer + Random Primordial Magic cards/buffs + lots of reactive healingBladeMasters - Pure melee DPS, high skill positioning katana combos, huge personal damageBattle mage - Sword + magic, alternates Blue/Red Mana, extremely mobile casterDemolitionist- Goblin tech Tank that plays almost like a DPS, cartridge combos, guns that shoot rockets, bullets and saws etc.Warden- melee DPS + chosen avatar, burst mode dps, Runemaster- Rune magic, summons Titan creatures, huge burst attacksDemon Hunter - Extremely fast dual blade melee DPS with constantly changing combosSan'layn- Blood healer that dps attacks while healing Big deal on everything being sandbox and no theme park stuff.
>>582840116Eastfall
Gore > porn American things
>>582840116Northrise
>>582839887At the end of the day, money talks.Blizzard gave people confidence that they'd go extra hard on gold buyers, but now that they've walked it back, everyone's lost trust and people are quitting in droves.
>>582839598
What the fuck am i supposed to main… Warrior? Hunter? Udpala? Rogue? Druid?
>>582839836wo- (warlock)
>>582840295
>>582840116Southstationary
god wow forever launch is such a fucking shitshow, it's nothing but streamer drama and dooming now, it didn't last 2 fucking weeks of beta and everything already looks grim
>>582839836Trans freakshows fantasizing about murdering furries that look like little boyssmells like /wpsg/
>want to play an orc warrior samurai>blizzard might add blade masters in the futureSuffering
>>582840295That isn't even addressing what I said because it's not an argument of consistency. Blizz said they'd mass ban people they saw as having offensive names and they did it, people just didn't want them to do it at all so it has nothing to do with "well why would they do this but not this" because even if they went after RMT just as hard, you'd still be mad about the name bans.
People will literally defend bad game design because 'nilla did it.
>>582839887>>582840295the amount of money the will make from the wow token will dwarf the people who are quitting over thissad but true. that south park episode about mobile games and "whales" is just 10000% facts
>>582840604i was wpsg but i have $700 now because i broke into a bubushka's hut and robbed her. now im ready to play wow forever for at least a few years off that massive fortune.
>>582840807not being able to get credit on a mob because someone on your faction already hit it first is good because... IT JUST IS OKAY
>>582840814>he needs to watch SP to know thisHow about just look into actual metrics, in the average mobile game 10% of the playerbase is where 90% of the game's revenue comes from.
We never got orc blademasters
>>582840984arms warriors exist
>>582840984this>>582841045+ transmog your weapon to a katana
how many orcs could Jaina realistically tank in an ever-ending gangbang with 3 to 6 banging her at any given time before her heart gives out and she dies?
>>582840807Guess what, if you want revamped mechanics but not going full retail, MoP classic is right there. Hell some consider it the expansion with the best class design in the game's history.Barely anyone plays it, I should know, I play MoP Classic.
NEW UPDATEWHAT DID IT DO
>>582841045We never got dex wars
>>582841171>Just play mop
>retail models routinely being taken out back and shot one by oneretoilet humiliation legitimately cannot get any funnier
>>582841380not memeing, it's got more gold tracking
>still no opt-in code
>>582841171Mop had dog shit class design.Cata was far better.
Answer me true. Will you quit when they add vulpera? Will you continue to play?
new class survey is just fielding interest on archetypes. they will almost certainly merge concepts together to build a full class (like necro + DK). and hopefully it wont turn out to be some bullshit like evokers
Are they gonna fix warriors? I wanna play an orc warrior but with the meganerfs i dunno if I’ll enjoy it. Plus i like pvping
No you see I didnt buy gold, a lvl 1 character that I've never spoken to before just HAPPENED to really like my name and gifted me 20000 goldGo ahead and try to prove otherwise.
>>582841567not even going to play anymore at this point, beta has soured me
>>582841621no
Ban tradingRemove the auction houseRemove the profession limit
>>582841567I'll stack two on top of each other (male and female) and use my 8 inch human paladin penis to go between the male's ass and the female's vagina, alternating with each thrust until they're both full of and covered in human cum
>>582841615It's just testing the waters to see if taking Retail's Talebound classes and putting them in Forever as a backup is something people want. Literally nobody in the history of WoW has wanted or asked for a "witch" class, and, surprise surprise, witch is one of the classes in Talebound.
>want to be orc with sword>racial forces me to axeLemme AXE you a question. In this day and age why don’t warriors get a unique racial as warrior where they pick the specialization they want (like +% crit to whatever weapon they want)
I wish my succubus was real bros
>>582841767enforced self found would ironically fix 99% of the problems with this "MMO"
>>582841979All you need to do is make a dark pact with a demon and she can be real
Streamers won't get banned for gold buying but (you) will
>>582841936You can be an orc with a sword, just equip an axe in your offhand like some sort of stereotypical viking berserker.
>>58284200170% of the players are gamer dads who won't play if there are no shortcuts via trading. Blizzard simply will not do this.
>>582842202add a server ruleset
>>582840180You put some effort into this so here’s a (you), enjoy.
>>582841979>sun is yellow>water is reflecting yellow sunlight>everything is red.... because?no humans were involved in the development of this, surely
>>582841621next patch will nerf warr, you think it's a joke but just waitt. insider
>>582840561>browses websites that exclusively peddle negativity>watches doomer content>”wtf it’s hoblets!!!!”Maybe try just playing the game.
>>582841767>>582842001>>582842202What's the point of it being an MMO if your interactions with other players are limited to questing, dungeons, raiding and pvp? At that point, why not just turn it into a lobby game?
>>582842356i disabled secondary lighting completely with /console giquality 0and also was exploring off the map north of eastern plaguelands so the lighting was all fucked because we aren't supposed to be there, but it looked pretty
>>582842530whats the point of you being fucked retarded? at this point just kill yourself
>Play alliance and lose every BG but get instant queues>Play horde and win every BG but get 2 hour queuesDecisions...
>immediate tranny seethe
>>582841621>Are they gonna fix warriors? They did fix warrior. > with the meganerfs i dunno if I’ll enjoy it. Oh I see, you want to be carried by world buffs and broken mechanics.
Your Warcraft my choice… forever…
>>582842637Join a guild on alliance that does bgs as a group and get insta queues and win every bg?
>>582841409Yeah, I said no one plays it, thank you for repeating it.>>582841531This is objectively false unless you were one of the 2 classes that were better in Cata than in MoP. Or you never PvPed, which is where the class differences actually matter in the era of "bring the player, not the class"
What happens when they add a new class and it ruins the game
>>582842178How in the actual fuck are they going to even enforce no GDKP if the literal most known figures in the community are getting away with blatant RMT and getting wrist slaps for it? Yeah, see you in the GDKP buddy.
>>582842202that's true, no one is more open about buying gold than gamer dads who "don't have the time">>582842530because the average player is a degenerate that cannot be trusted to self-moderate.things that would end immediately:>botting>gold buying>boosting>GDKPs>summon/portal services spam
>>582842894What happens is the game dies. Everybody will stop playing and paying blizzard for the game. And move back into private servers. Then blizzard will announce wow forever+ a few years later.
>>582842894wont happen, devs are all firmly under fatman's thumb. No zoomer ADHD retoilet slop like Demon Hunters will pollute class design. That said, Paladins may be heinously overpowered for the forseeable future.
So uhhh, what are shaman's winning matchupsdo they have any?
>>582842894People will play the class and enjoy it.
Somebody confirm whether or not professions give you those bonuses we saw leaked a week ago because I'm getting conflicting info, some saying they're in others saying they're bullshit.Does Mining give 5% health? Skinning +5% damage vs beasts? Etc etc
>>582842637How did queues go in classic anniversary after the initial r14 grind anyways. I had to quit before that unlocked
>>582843039the floor vs your windfury totemyou win 100% of the time if you do it on time
>>582842935>because the average player is a degenerate that cannot be trusted to self-moderate.And yet if this same argument was applied to offensive names, the narrative flips, then it's powertripping trannies stomping on players who just want to have fun, not that spergs can't be bothered to not behave like this and self-moderate
Apologize.
>>582842884I played fire mage and enhancement shaman for pvp and both were utter boring garbage in mop compared to cata. Maybe those are the 2 classes that happened to be better and my luck is just very bad.
>>582843039Frost Shock into instant ghost wolf gg you'll survive any encounter.
>>582843123that shit is literally from epoch or some other private server
>>582843247Fine, I'll buy the pig...
They should add random dungeon finder to forever because both it's popular and enjoyed by the players that use it, and if you don't like it, you can just not use it. It would make interactions between players a lot smoother too, you wouldn't have people that join your group for Dire Maul while they're all the way over in the Eastern Plaguelands and you wouldn't have those moments where you do a dungeon and get zero loot because you can always get loot from the Satchel of Helpful Goods.
>>582839523>transmog bad >uses this toy every single moment
>>582842914GDKP hater here. I don’t actually care if someone does GDKP runs as long as the advertisement spam is gone.
>>582843045This actually just looks like gore to me not gore porn. Nothing sexual seems to be occuring.
>>582843387I wonder what this does for Sky elves.
>>582843123I haven't seen it in-game but I only have my crafting profession at 150, not my gathering one.>>582842935If you actually, unironically want to kill botting, just kill the addon api in the game's code. That hook necessary for addons is also necessary for bots to function in WoW, if WoW became a no-addon game 90% of bots would die overnight.
>>582839885You should def play alliance if you havent yet. I played ally through sod as a dorf huntard (vanilla and classic horde) and it was great.
>>582843472Makes them naga
>>582839523i honestly never really had a problem with transmog. The real issue is that it helped reinforce the game's descent into a collectathon with zero aesthetic consistency.
>>582839523They keep using savory deviate delight hoping for the moment when blizzard accidentally adds this back in.
>>582843472Blorcs
>>582843472makes them the opposite faction sky elves.
does the difference in faction population actually matter if you're on pve
Can you make Horde on the PvP server again?
>>582843371Kinda defeats the purpose of traveling across the world
>>582843472Your womb tattoo faction logo changes
An SSF server ruleset with personal loot feels like the next thing reddit would beg for, just like they did with classic and hardcore. It'd basically be the final solution to all the Olympus and gold buying drama.
>>582843862In this image yes but not the other one.
Can you guys stop posting gore porn or at the very least make it wow related baka
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
complete chud meltdown ITT
>>582841171The theming of the expansion still sucks.
>>582843862Me when playing warlock
>most op classes are hunter and priest>alex mains hunter and priest
dunno if i want to do mage, druid or warriorwhich is most difficult?
>>582843985We need lili pornposter back
>>582844120Stop noticing
>>582841171MOP had the worst trailer ever
>>582844120op at 20, trash at 60
Aggrend status?
>>582843016I kneel to /ourguy/ fatgrendAs long as lard flows through his veins we will be safe
ive never seen this place before, its above the little unmarked zone above eastern plaguelands, creepy
>>582839885I’m opposite. Played alliance all of vanilla and am thinking I should try the zug zug this time. Will roll night elf hunter for hardcore later.
fem gnome is the most attractive race and anybody that says otherwise is lying to themselves
>>582844372thats my penis haha
>>582844372that's my clit haha
>>582844392Tall Woman mogs short woman.
>>582843897If you're already SSF there's no need for a separate server ruleset for that.That can be just a soul_of_iron like buff modifier for a character
>>582844392They made gnome females not have big enough tits
>>582844392I wish I had a 3 foot tall autistic wife
>>582844489nobody will do that unless it also removes the profession limit
>>582843420nigger
>>582840919Yeah cuz the average nigga is looking into game revenue metrics, you fucking retard.
>>582844907
Ban the streamer for accepting RMT gold from the beta. Make streamers in the live game afraid to accept free gold. That is effectively RMT too. It's absurd that popular people online have a different TOS they need to follow, which is less strict than the average player.
I want to play the beta but worry I burn myself out before the game is out.
>>582845343you're missing out on TWO fresh experiences.
>>582845343half of the player base already burned out and wont play at launch
>>582845343if you're gonna get tired of the game in a month anyway then it will save you the 15 dollars
>>582845343you will burn yourself outjust play something else until november
>>582845530That's good though, means I can get in on launch sooner
>>582845343>lvl 20 capez skip imo
>>582845343Honestly you’re not missing much. The game is good, but with the level cap and future wipe it feels pretty pointless playing. You’ve done all there is to do within a day of hitting 20, will be the same for 30. You can try out different classes but odds are they’ll change by release anyway.
>>582844120why didnt he just get on minoxidil?
>>582845343it was fun for the first 3 or 4 days, seeing all the new things (that you can see at level 20 at least) now everyone is metagaming and trying to become the strongest level 20 twink, it's super cringe and gay
>>582845343I just resubbed to play era for a month as a comparison. Saved me 45 dollars and I can go passed 20.
How does respecing work? Do you still get screwed if you reset your talents?
You shall not pass. expect at least 2 more 5 minute GY runs.
>>582842914Because the plan was never to enforce it for their pet streamers and their groups, it's to enforce it for you and me.
if you're leveling rpot, around what level do you realistically STOP using these?
Who's the best pvp player in this general? Is there any chance they can win the pvp tournament? We should support them and make them represent us
>>582846131good shit, snipe em all
>>582845343dont. hunger is the best sauce. i wish i had waited before losing my forever virginity.
>tfw they can never do OSRS style voting because they know retoilets would be allowed to vote and subsequently poison the game
>>582846172Okay, good. Where is the problem besides the usual hypocricy? You still cant RMT and kill the economy. Who cares about 12 angry streamers
>>582846247Depends on whether or not the effect scales with stats.
>>582846131>camping 1v50horde's greatest pvper
>>582846324I work for blizzard. We just rig the polls, we also rig osrs polls. And also we literally spam internet communities about our polls and we pay people to argue in public spaces.
>>582846247Probably never unless there's a better onr later or they nerf it in the next build. As paladin and warrior you're built around block chance. It's free damage.
>>582846324They can do the voting system the same way they put out that class survey, select random people from a hat and give them the vote. Narrow the selection to people who have consistent playtime in Forever or Classic and you're golden.
>>582846247>WARRIORS ARE BEING GUTTED AND UNPLAYABLEMeanwhile me. A tank main. Who leveled with Prot in Classic anyways. Is fucking LOVING it.
>>582846131>rolled pvenice try zogbot
>>582846262>Who's the best pvp player in this general?The vast majority are noobs that don't even dare play on PvP servers.
>>582846538>Narrow the selection to people who have consistent playtime in Forever or Classic and you're golden.too many people who play both versions, needs to be exclusively non-retail players only
>>582846559Always quest with a pocket druid so you can have giga thorns (thorns scales heavily from SP in forever).
>>582846642If you want #nochanges go play era.
The only way the plot/story of WoW Forever can be good is if we prevent the entire timeline of retail by saving Onyxia.Bolvar will cleanse her of the Old God's corruption and she will be his (my) good evil black dragon gf again.We will hold her life in our hands... and though justice demands she die for her crimes, only she can save us!
Reminder blizzard added a handful of quests, dungeons and items and then sold a BETA of a RE-RELEASE as an entire game for $60, and not even a full re-release, like 10 zones to 20 as they scramble to finish the rest of the content.
>tiniest fucking fart>most rancid, long-lasting stench imaginable l>huge assripper fart for 5 seconds >no smell at allCan one of you retoilets explain? I know fart sniffing is your specialty and all.
>>582846782>lashes out for no reasonand thus, the retoilet outs itself. many such cases!
>>582846852means u got a tight bussy. come over here
>>582846642Consisten playtime in Forever or Classic implies inconsistent or no playtime in Retail. I don't think someone who logs in to check their old characters from 2004 or to see how badly they fuck up with Wrath Remix should be restricted from voting.
Farholde...home
>>582846559Protection is the only viable warrior spec. Without the extra rage generation from block/dodge/parry warrior feels like ass. As it stands there's no way any warrior ever kills caster in pvp.
Holy shit I bet corporate is going bananas haha holy shit.>bruh kill troontle and epoch that had way more effort in it we’re gonna shovel $60 slop and there can be no alternatives
>>582845343It's a good call. I got my Priest to 20 over 2-3 days then made a couple chars to fuck around with and check shit out. None are over 10. I'll get that Priest to 30 once cap raises I think then call it until launch.I'd say not worth the cost of the Epic+ pack. But if you are gonna buy the blue elves, then the epic pack does kind of make sense with the game time.I got the $100 pack, but I wanted WC3 Reforged and expansion to finally play. I definitely saved buying all of that piece meal. I wished they threw an extra bone of WC1 and WC2 remastered in as well though... kinda gay they didn't.
>>582846859The last time I played retail WoW was vanilla, lil gup. I just don't see the point of making another #nochanges version of the game.
>>582847126>I wished they threw an extra bone of WC1 and WC2 remasteredThere's no reason to play WC1 and 2 remastered instead of pirating the original games, since you should only be playing those to experience original RTS jank.
Question regarding Warcraft 3When Arthas was doing his whole invasion of his own kingdom thing, was he just so fast when doing so that nobody could respond properly or did Dalaran really just sit there and watch as he first sacked Lordaeron, then went up all the way to Quel’thalas to shit on them too and then turned back around to siege Dalaran and their best idea was “sit in an aura field that hurts undead and do nothing”?? They couldn’t fly up away or put up a real barrier like in wow? Teleport some people to Silvermoon or to the southern kingdoms for help/warning or even help evacuate? What kinda “alliance” just sits there and lets eachother get beaten up on their own waiting for their turn?
Totally organic player here, my name is Golgrubber Shekelshiner and I'm a top executive and part of the guild and collective called Chabad Zeppelin Financials, may we offer any of you streamerbucks a totally legal loan of gold and material, initially free of interest of course, just like your leader advocates for in real life, it's a good deal no sane player would ever think of passing upwhaddaya say, gitgoy
>>582847325>gilneasThat is literally what they did
eww the lil gup spamming faggot is back, blizz sent back in their most cringefaggot lord
I’m rolling hunter, I’m gonna eat a Costco chicken whole every single day as part of the RPHardest choice is nelf hunter for shadowmeld shenanigansHuman Hunter for the racial and damageSkelf for aesthetics and jumping shenanigans and better faction (horde)Problem with skelfs is that the mobs in that zone all run faster than the player so leveling a hunter sucks ass
>>582847126>wanted WC3 RefundedFor what possible purpose?
>>582847057Farholde should've been built like a mini-Stormwind instead of a mega-Theramore/mega-Menethil desu.
>>582846247The effect is only worth 5 strength, its not that strong
>>582847480>Costco chicken>not Wawa chicken strip hoagie Alright stay off my faction and ruleset.
>>582846826>for $60it's free with a sub nigga
>>582847325Yes, Arthas moved extremely quickly in the lore. Lordaeron was reeling from the first scourge onslaughts and after Terenas was killed, things were basically on a rapid downslide to chaos with the Silver Hand barely keeping shit together. Then Arthas killed them too with a fast blitz. He immediately rallied the undead he could gather from Lordaeron and marched on Quel'Thalas, where he was so surgical that even Silvermoon itself wasn't prepared by the time he was already outside the Sunwell. The mages were barely able to prepare their own defenses, let alone muster a force to counterattack. When they did get enough of an army to attack him, it was too late: Kel'Thuzad had summoned Archimonde and everything was already ogre.
>>582847721The beta
>>582847742Derp, MB.
>>582847057>lazy asset flipi hope you got your money back
>>582847480Personally i think human is probably the best.>stun break >2% crit when using any sword stat stick>perceptionWhile 2% movespeed is nice, the in combat use of shadowmeld isn't as useful when you already have feign death.
>>582847736I can't belive the jailor planned all that out... the fractals
I recall in wc3 there were silvermoon runners you killed with gargoyles as an objective implying that silvermoon didn’t even know Arthas was literally right outside the gates and only sylvanas and the scouts knew that he was coming.
>>582847860Most areas in WoW are lazy asset flips, you can name unique areas with their own assets that are never used elsewhere on a single hand.
>>582847325>Why didn't Dalaran do xBecause they're a bunch of faggots and Medivh is a mega faggot cry baby>Hmm yes I shall be all mysterious and not tell them anything>I shall just... insoonuate>Hmm why aren't they listening to me and evacuating everyone to Kalimdor Jaina didn't help though.>>582847480Unless the Nelf racial gets nerfed I think that'll catch a lot of people off guard in longer fights, especially considering it'll be 2H Polearms and Staffs for Hunters at 60 so the 2% crit is useless.
>>582847702wtf is that
>>582847903Shadowmeld breaks casts
I hope the roadmap they posted just doesn't show race additions. Otherwise the first possibility of a new race is SUMMER 2027 and that's just ridiculous.They can't seriously expect me to wait six months for my Goblins, can they?
I'm lowkey finna bored should I resub to modern and play midnight while I wait for Forever?
just give dwarf stun resistance
>>582847943It's the advantage of WC3 being a strike force type RTS rather than a big army game. You can realistically move a bunch of necromancers and ghouls with meatwagons to support 1 death knight as he wrecks fucking face in a matter of days. You can't really believe that when it's a big army.
>>582847480Tauren hunter, because its cool
>>582847903It’s more so the stealth snipes outa nowhere, and 2% speed is objectively amazing on a hunter
>>582848112Good job fixing the hands
>>582846790this bitch takes 3 shota cocks up the ass every night
>>582848073I'm doing the newest guild wars expansion
>>582848062Any addition of any new content, classes, races etc will evidently cause massive outrage, so they need to space things out a bit.
>>582848112>the same people that jerk it to this think the Forever cinematic is "disneyslop"
>>582848025Casters aren't really an issue for hunter, especially with in combat frost trap, stronger pets, and baseline aimed shot. Well except for warlock, but they don't need to cast. They have too much sustain and just out live hunters because they have no self healing.
Objective hunter race tier listS tier >Tauren, nelfA tier >Dwarf, SkelfB tier>hoomenF tier>troll
>>582848193that may be but her pussy is for big men like bolvar and varianhowever, her pussy and ass merge into a cloaca when she is in her true form
>>582848112Tauren Hunter because Plainsrunning is hilarious with it. Also Skinning on the plains is great as well.
>>582848304Planning to play a troll hunter named Dogboiler
>>582848304>SSS+Orc
>>582846790>wow forever>onyxia still alivei fucking wish i was bolvar fuckin mind controlled clapping that corrupted traitorous dragussy every fucking night hggngnn and maybe she'd transform in the middle of me pounding away at that asshole and she'd be like you better not stop and i don't fuckin stop but she wipes my memories in the morning anyway god fucking damnit
Anyone on the pve servers have a small comfy guild that I can join?
>>582846790bro onyxia is the 1st raid, that bitch is fucked
Why isn’t there a polearm specialisation yet… it’s the coolest weapon type in the game, in vanilla it’s only ever been a stat stick. Instead of boring 5% crit it could be something cool like 5% armor pen. And there should be weapon specific spell for warriors too, like sword is riposte, axe is a bleed, mace is a disorient, polearm is 2x range, makes kiting warriors harder
>>582847736 it’s funny how the evil factions were such a buzz saw in all 3 Warcraft games and the only reason they fail is because of self inflicted trolling. It really is the grandfather to mobas.
>>582848304draenei>prydwen has to invent a new tier again
>>582838545if you look like this PLEASE whisper me in game
>>582847126reforged + the campaign was a better product than wow forever, the only thing missing was them using DE graphics in RoC and FT which they didn't have at launch but they will implement
>>582848517I can save herI can save all of them
>>582847325because the alliance was too powerful post wc2 so blizzard made them all incompetent idiots so that they could be destroyed and pave the way for green jesus(TM)
>>582848304Retard. Orc is better than tauren on horde. Tauren isn't bad but with autoshot having a proper cast time now it's just not nearly as good.. Human and night elf are comparable. Skelf /troll / dwarf shouldn't even be considered.
>>582848229Blizzard tweeting causes outrage. Fuck 'em.These straggots have had DECADES and multiple era launches to enjoy their 'nilla races in 'nilla servers doing 'nilla things. They even had SoD exclusively for them.I want the vanilla with a twist gameplay gameplan but with my Cata babes. It's not FAIR!
>>582848304Undead should be hunters as well. Did they forget their banshee queen and several of her best can use bows?
>>582848620I thought this was a troon gameSally looks like THAT?
Tauren MIGHT be a good idea for release.. plainsrunning will be really nice when running to all the dungeons n flight paths, if you’re a hunter you can permakite all mobs. And it’s probably going to be the least populated zone out of them all. Which is good for efficiency
Blacksmithing, Leather working, and Tailoring should all have access to craftable inventory storage items.>Blacksmithing = Toolboxes.>Leatherworking = Sacks>Tailoring = Pouches and bags.
>>582848726It’s just shit for pvp
What happened with the forever update?
>BM +50% damage for 18 seconds+30% attack speed after a crit+100% crit chance on next attack (intimidation)+10% flat crit chance+15% flat damage+20% focus regen+2% flat damageNelf 10% crit for 15 seconds or +2% crit from HumanThat's just in the BM tree. Pets are going to be juiced in the early raids.
>>582848749Nope, i don't think so. Bags are like a level 5 tailoring skill, so just make some and then drop it.
>>582848685>He hasn't seen the Alexstraza models or the Cheerleader Kerrigans.Imagine being this low T.
>>582848651Undead SHOULD be able to be every class that humans can>>582848636But aesthetically orcs are ugly as fuck. But yes the bane-curse removal thing is particularly good on hunters since they have no sustain
>>582848528The Scourge didn't fail at any point in WC3. It achieved just about everything that Ner'zhul wanted from it short of killing everyone alive and the Forsaken.
>>582847325Blizzard games are always on a really short timescale. All of SC1 and Brood War was over the course of like just over a year, and Wings Of Liberty all happened in a span of 4 weeks
Y'all think the paladin hype is actually going to carry over into the later parts of Forever levelling (IE levels 40-60)? I feel like surely most people will go back to 'their class' as a main eventually.
>>582848726Skelf has a better movement racial. Plainsrunning is a pve racial for bosses that have movement mechanics, you’ll get like an extra cast or two in every time you use it. It’ll also probably be good for flag carrying down the tunnel in wsg.
>>582848905>Undead SHOULD be able to be every class that humans cantrue except priests and paladinsjust a dumb mmo retcon like female druids
I was so bummed when I checked out plainsrunning.I log in, the rap up is slow but that’s fine. You can stop to auto and quickly move again and it will treat the ramp up like you never stopped moving making it god tier for hunter.I thought I was gonna get charged, war stomp and then run away as if I had free cheetah with no daze.But if you get hit once, just once, you essentially do not have a racial.
>>582848824Who knows. Some nigga asked on the forums and got called a Karen.>Just hook the slop into my veins, I trust Blizzard. I live in a high trust society. #BLM #ACAB #WHITESNOTRIGHT
>>582848749They should make large restricted bags for only specific types of shit which would be especially good for banks. I could see blacksmiths making equipment bags to hold all the new sets and weapons we'll need to horde.
>>582848835Nope. If there is an overwhelming number of hunters running around, the pets will get nerfed into oblivion. There is nothing people hate more than feeling like they died to a pet. If hunters are everywhere, people will die, and they will spam reddit and twitter about it. They practically removed all scaling from SoD because of this.
I wanted this staff. I wanted it bad. I farmed for it for over three months. I ran Scholomance over 200 times. And this was before the nerf to Scholomance. This was when an average run took around three hours. We got it down to an hour and a half. Over and over and over. I saw countless others get the items they came for, but that damn staff never dropped.
Broken ToothLuposTakk
>>582849051That could be cool as well. A giant Equipment bag for a Druid or something to hold multiple gear sets in.
>>582849106I think by saying they will be powerful early is admitting the scaling will be shit but base stats will hard carry early before people have big ass gear.
>>582848932That and Arthas ascended to achieving massive levels of plot armor in frozen throne that would make the average shonen protagonist look impotent
They would fix plainsrunning instantly INSTANTLY if they simply made it like this>after 30 stacks you now have 30% run for 5 minutes, getting struck in combat reduces it to 15% but doesn’t go below. After 5 min you’re back down to 5% and you have to run back up againBefore 30 stacks it functions the same as now, as in, getting struck removes stacks, standing still removes stacksAggrend won’t fix this tho since neither he nor any of his streamer imaginary friends play Tauren
>>582848749>>582849051This is in the game, kinda. They're called reagent bags and it's a feature from Dragonflight that weaseled its way into forever.>I could see blacksmiths making equipment bags to hold all the new sets and weapons we'll need to horde.This would be cool. I could see them adding a "mog wardrobe" system if they want to make it non-diegetic and the game really shifts into a gear-swap meta where you have weapons that you swap for different abilities.
>>582849318>Plains running resets upon entering combat>Stacks gained remain for the encounter and afterwardsOr that
>>582849318Tyler1 plays Tauren though.
>>582849327>They're called reagent bags and it's a feature from Dragonflight that weaseled its way into foreverHow is it a bad thing, really?
>>582849272Did he though? Somebody putting a stop to Illidan being the most important character ever conceived was long overdue and one of TFT's better points.
>>582849391This would make it good for warrior too instead of just hunter.
>>582849049bro, there's someone with the name gaschamberz on the official forums lol
They should've put in Tauren Paladin instead of Undead PaladinI'm still a fan of Dwarf Shaman but idk why the playerbase is so elfophilic
>>582849318or just make it a sprint forward ~30 yards bull charge
>>582849005Paladin hype is purely beta hype. Order of popularity will be>Hunter>Druid>WarriorPower gap>Paladin>Mage>PriestPower gap>Shaman (significantly higher on horde than alliance)>Rogue (Might be higher on pvp servers)>Warlock
>>582849183Did you try saying the game was good before you ran it?
>>582849005Ya apparently this is a ret paladin expack. So I’ll be playing ret paladin. I’ll post my first legendary parse in the thread just to show you guys how good I am and how ret isn’t easy when you’re being compared to other rets. I always get legendary parses im somewhat like a wow prodigy, I was literally r1 gladiator when I was 12 and the momentum just kept going. I just kept climbing elo and kept scoring legendary parses I got my name on the front page of warcraftlogs haha im like a messiah of gaming basically. You should check out my youtube channel bro I got some sick ret pal clips and will be adding more over time.
>>582849458I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I don't think everything in retail is inherently bad, retail is an MMO and thus, has designs that would work in other MMOs.
>>582849183that's the heirloom staff.
after a week of no invites <smug wowjak> NA PVE Alliance has been REJECTED by /wowfg/. and i agree it was way too on the nose. im disbanding.can /wowfg/ come up with a better name?
>>582849183never even seen that stupid thing drop. Ive seen more legendaries that that pos.
>>582849327I thought a separate reagant bag slot comes from SL
>warcraft 3 gets new animations and models>wow forever alone gets nothingreally makes you think
>>582849248Same thing could be said about SoD. First level cap was 25 and that is peak hunter strength. Anyone who has ever twinked a character in pvp knows this. Yet people complained. They nerfed the scaling and it didn't make much difference at 25. It did however make pets completely fucking useless again at 60. I expect the same in forever.
>>582849623I wonder how long it will take retoids to realize the fastest way to gear up ret is to play prot
>>582849728Onyxia's Baby Frogs
>>582848626Medivh isn't green.
>>582849183Nope. It's all Dragonflight, because Dragonflight was when they tried to make crafting more important and integral to the game.https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Reagent_bag
>>582849728Alex’ Kangaroo crew
>>582849918Meant for>>582849779
>>582849542they gave undead paladins because its most likely people would play undead over tauren by a significant margin. Paladins are a necessity in endgame. Their buffs are really strong and we almost need a lot of people to play paladins so groups can all get one (preferably some of them will play Holy and Prot).
>>582849728Damn
>>582849824>Anyone who has ever twinked a character in pvp knows this.That pretty much excludes everyone in game and most anons here. It's the same as people crying about Ret Pala early on when it is at its strongest because they get all their damage by level 4.>>582849837>Going Prot to gear up Ret by not inviting warrcucks and/or meleecucksStop exposing it
>>582849837I am playing a class that can tank solely for the reason that I will not only get tank gear fast, but my off set faster, than if I just played a dps class. I can make my groups instantly, exclude dps who roll on stuff I want and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.Druid doesn't look very good and I hate combo points stuck on target. Unless they buff fury/arms with some additional way to generate rage, I'm playing paladin.
Name the guild <black cock>
>>582849541;)Who did that? Yikes!!Must be super sexy and handsome.
>>582849728<Forever Pals n Trans Gals>
>>582849837Nah it’s not really. Youll clear faster by doing high DPS. Finding groups for pre raid bis isn’t hard because you can queue
Trannies are fun to fuckNever been in a relationship with one that didnt go tits up due to their manic depression within 8 monthsWent back to women in the end but it was a fun phase.
>>582850134I think the balance will work out by the time everyone hits 60. 20 or 30 level cap distribution isn't indicative of anything
>>582850402>Youll clear faster by doing high DPSWhat does this even mean? You know that you can add another DPS yeah?
>>582850402No intelligent tank is inviting a rogue, ret pal, enh shaman, feral druid, or hunter to their group.
>>582848517Onyxia definitely won't be the first raid, it'll probably be easier to go Barrow Deeps (10-man) > Hyjal Summit (20-man) > Onyxia's Lair (40-man).
>>582850621Post paycheck.
>>582849728<Hormone Replacement Therapy><Lemon Party><Predditors Fun House><Fiery but Mostly Peaceful>
if players are going to use addons for dungeon maps, why don't blizz just turn that desire into content? make acquiring/unlocking dungeon maps an actual in-game thing to do, rather than using an addon/tabbing to wowhead
>>582850784he does it for free
>>582850402>Finding groups for pre raid bis isn’t hard because you can queueWhat the fuck are you talking about? The queue isn't the retail queue where you just get put together with random people and go, you're putting yourself on a list hoping they pick you out of every single dps. Getting into a group is already difficult at max as a dps but if the tank is a plate wearer, guess what, they aren't picking dps that wear plate that will compete for the gear they want since they're the head of the group.
>>582850841No that's retail-. The classic experience is downloading an addon for things that don't exist in the game.
>>582850927>if the tank is a plate wearer, guess what, they aren't picking dps that wear plate that will compete for the gear they want since they're the head of the group.Same goes for weapon types. If a class is rolling on the sword I want, I ain't inviting them. I don't announce reserves. I just don't invite the competition.
>>582849542>>582850134Tauren Paladin is also objectively fucking retarded. The Sunwalkers came off as forced and the "hints" in Wrath of the Lich King read more as the An'she followers being sun druids than paladins. They also nested Tauren Priests into the same retcon for no fucking reason, the Spirit Walker in Warcraft 3 already existed. Forsaken Paladins are a retcon, but they make more sense than Tauren Paladins.They also look fucking stupid.
>rolls a girlcow bm hunter
>aion 2 launching tomorrow>wow sadever stuck in a doomloop of bored and streamer dramait's over
>>582851149
>>582851149if you make one of these in Forever with Rets you're going to end up with a file too large for 4channel
>>582850819><Lemon Party>aha this is the name of my phone's wifi hotspot kek it's the guild name. rest genuinely sucked or were trolling anywayi'm away from a major city but gimme a min and i'll form it
>>582851149>put on the shield>get all the items you want with no competition I don't get why people make the game harder for themselves. I was tanking everything in HC wow no problem as full fury warrior. Hell half my gear was even leather, it doesn't matter.
>>582851085Human Warriors and Paladins are going to ban all other Humans from their parties, aren't they?
>>582851359this is one of those Koreaslops where you spend a week in the character creator jacking off and then uninstall
I never understood draenei shaman how the hell was a literal alien race that's historically had a bad affinity for demons immediately able to establish a connection with azeroth's elements???
If TB were around to play Forever, what would he think about it?
>>582851149>Stop assuming I'm going to slap on a shieldGotta love warriors thinking they need a shield when white mail/plate is enough for dungeons
>>582851502Very likely, yes.
>>582851553he'd probably be here to ask and answer one simple question: WTF is WoW Forever?
>>582851553He would call it easy mode and criticize the lack of difficulty increase
>>582851523Was elemental lore in TBC firmly established to be on a planet-by-planet basis, or were the Elemental Planes their own separate dimension?
How does respecing work in beta? Do you still get screwed if you reset your talents?
>>582851502When I leveled with a friend we'd always go tank / healer combo. We'd always make all of our groups the same dps as a joke to make them fight each other for loot like 3 hunters.
>>582851502+rogues generallybut yes, as a tank i'll be making my own groups and excluding any potential loot competition. i did this in 2019, i did it in anniversary and i'll be doing it in forever. the only push back i've ever received was a single time in Anniversary and it was from an uppity gnome mage who left the group because he saw that there were already 3 other clothies and didn't want to group with a "greedy warrior". he was replaced by another gnome mage almost instantly.idc if you are a holy paladin, you are still a paladin and thus excluded from my runs. not sorry. i will also heavily discriminate against skyborn
>>582851759yeah
>>582851795>We'd always make all of our groups the same dps as a joke to make them fight each other for lootBased. Dps cucks will stay too because otherwise they go back to waiting 30+ minutes for another invite lolol.
>log on in Westfall>hundreds of players everywhere I go>every mob is either dead or taggedhow do I fucking layer wtf
>>582851746Yeah. TB was the kind of vexxed WoW player who thought vanilla was challenging.
>>582851759No idea I always assumed it was just light and void that had an interplanetary presence hence the whole space war going on between them
>>582851149lukewarm
>>582851938You buy the shit off the acution house, turn them in, go level in Darkshore until 14 then get a free 1.5 level from HoT
>>582851880to add, rogues this time around will actually have to be a hard decline since forever wants to push the sword/board tanking meta, which i'm ok with, but sucks to be rogues i guess lmao. now warriors who tanked with a 2 hander are going sword/shield and need those 1 handers now. too bad so sad
>>582852052Giving them axes also hurts rogues too. Why the hell would I invite someone that will roll on every weapon I need?
>>582852049I didn't buy gold but ok
What's the best class/race for me if I have this image saved on my phone and 4chan is my most used app?
>>582852052No sword and boarder wants dagger.I'm a dagger rogue
which dungeon to run to find a slutty warlock partymember gf
>>582851938Did you try grouping?
>>582852225Human male ret paladin or human male dps warrior
>>582852190you can buy boar cocks for like 10c, nobody is talking about buying gold retard
Why are priests restricted from using swords when Anduin wields one????
>>582851795All casters need to level is a wand and most good wands are BoE. What you do in Forever is you invite a mage, a rogue and a druid, the mage because they're a hero class, the rogue and druid because they'll fight for the same pieces. It goes especially good in Wailing Caverns now that the set has a unique snake form effect that every druid wants for style points.
>>582852179you wouldn't. you're a retard if you do OR you are already stacked, dont need gear and just want the xpbut oops, dungeon xp is also heavily nerfed. so now you are incentivized to do a 1-and-done run of a dungeon, stack the group in your favor and never go back in. thanks aggrend!
>>582852190The quest drops like Okra, intestines and Snouts sell for literal vendor price.
>Well... I differ from the central position in psychiatry right now; I don't think this should be viewed as a medical problem. If you are suicidal - you want to die, you can't get out bed, etc. - then you have a very serious emotional, spiritual crisis going on that could be handled in different ways that I think are better than adding a problem to your brain. There's religion, spiritual counselling, there's family, finding a new way, finding a new meaning in life. It's really about life. And we're changing it into something about biochemistry without having the scientific basis for doing so.lmao wtf
>>582851795
>>582852351you still want dps rings/ammy/trinkets, = no invite for you. daggers are also faster meaning more rage since rage is normalized around attack speed instead of damage so yes actually i do want them (and i'll get them)go group with a druid tank lmao
>>582852352yo I main warlock. However, I am niether slutty nor female
>>582852516Thrall didn't say that.
>>582851795lul
>>582852351Fast weapons are best for warrior right now with the rage normalization and for prot all the abilities scaling off attack power, not weapon damage. I am rolling on daggers for sure if they have the best stats.Prot paladin also wants fast weapons, preferably with spell power so caster swords andaces are ideal.
>>582852418An easy solution would be good quest rewards. But #nochanges nillers don't want that.
>>582852559I love my druid tank friend :3
>>582852030seems eternally relevant to me>push the solve everything button? NO, I want to DEE PEE ESS LET ME COMPETE WITH YOU FOR GEAR NOW
>>582852594none of that really makes fast weapons better (for warrior) except for hitting more consistently, but they are also worse for kiting
>>582852179It depends how many items you need from each dungeon. At some point, you’ll just start inviting any class, because it takes too long to set up the perfect group. They also might already have the item, and are going for a different item from a different boss. Anyways at the end of the day it’ll all just work out, just like it always does. You just queue up and somebody invites you. Getting pre raid isn’t really a big problem I guess it’s not the most enjoyable thing in the world, like if raids drop and you still don’t have pre raid bis you’re not going to get into a top 100 guild. That happened to me one time because I got so unlucky I killed the boss like a billion times dude and I didn’t get the drop. So just get the drop. It also depends if they’re doing like daily lockouts for 5man dungeons, they probably will. So in that situation yeah it might be a good idea to try to scam an unfair group but it’s still not as easy as it looks to do that type of thing it’s a lot of work like I’ve tried and just gave up because people are too smart and will leave or you’ll spend tons of time waiting and other people in the party will be like “why not invite plate class guy??” Then they might leave and it’s like this huge thing…
>>582852559>go group with a druid tank lmaoAs a druid why would you invite a shaman, rogue, or hunter? They're going to steal your leather.
shadow priest and heal for fast invites or cat druid and tank for fast group invites?
Doesn't this hit kind of hard? Don't tell me prot is going to be the go-to pvp spec...
Why is the Skyborne city so annoying to be in
>>582851149In classic there really was no excuse because both arms and fury could easily tank anything. I tanked every instance to 60 in pure DPS spec in HC.Right now Arms tanking doesn't feel good. No threat, no rage. Sunder being useless is really the critical issue for non prot tanking.
>>582852516>lmao wtfYou're glib
>>582852759Prot is crazy strong right now.
>>582852583It sounds like something Thrall could say. I read it in his voice.
I haven’t made a skelf or entered the skelf zone and I’m proud of that fact
>>582852817True, but he didn't say that.
>>582852743that was my pointwarriors dont want thempaladins dont want themonly option left is druidwho certainly dont want them because leatherwouldnt be so bad if running dungeons multiple times was still viable but in forever its all about the heckin overworld social experience so rogues will just have to do with green quest reward gear lmoa
For me it’s gotta be Hunter, the patricians choice >best open world rp aesthetics of all>almost every single profession is thematically accurate >rare pets to tame>big hits big crits>no other class makes use of secondary professions like they doTruly the SOVL class of vanilla
>>582851795Ok that's funny
>>582852594Caster swords are less than ideal, they deal less damage than regular swords of the same attack speed. They're also adding targeted paladin swords that deal regular sword damage and have healing>spell damage into the game, so protpals compete for swords with holypals.
>>582852743As a druid tank I'm going to want a shaman for windfury. Everyone else can be cloth or plate.
>>582852731>more frequent rage generation ticks>miss/dodge/parry less harmful to rage generation >weapon damage doesn't impact ability damage, so slow weapons aren't optimal for big hitsWithout the old rage mechanics, attacking faster is the meta for prot and fury warrior.
>>582852852Their zone is actually pretty nice, a good mix of Terokkar and Eversong. Shame sky elves themselves are lame and gay.
>>582852948*deadzones u*
I've raped several skelves in their city
>>582852759Leveling a warrior prot twink in i can’t remember if it was cata or mop, or maybe even wotlk? Was the funniest shit ever. I remember 1shotting with shield slam every 7 or whatever seconds, getting Ironman every single WSG and listening to hardware store by weird al on 10 hour loop
>>582848229>Any addition of any new content, classes, races etc will evidently cause massive outrageno changes andies need to be FUCKING IGNORED.The abject failure of "Classic" proves it and the Sudden wild popularity of Forever shows that what people WANT is the classic feel and pace with new content. People want new dungeons, zones, races, and maybe even classes, though I hope that they keep that very limited. New specs for existing classes is a better idea.Like tank or ranged rogue.2h shield gladiator warrior1h+Staff bubbletank priestHoly Caster Paladin
Just looking at the history on vil and classic wow on pvp servers it will be horde heavy. Thats why on pvp servers once it hits around 40 to 60% slit the servers start to die b/c it crashes to around 10%- 90% horde heavy b/c its just not fun to play pvp server when your always outnumbeered 10 to 1. 1 mega server was a bad idea and will do within 6 months b/c of unbalance pop.
>>582853037I don’t want to be a fag, but any hunter who knows what he’s doing is essentially a 1v1 god.
>>582853168*puts a few dots on u*
>>582853037Good luck with the new pets
legitimately what does a rogue add to a group in the current version?
>>582851553I wouldn't ask him anything. I'd listen, which is what nobody did.
>>582853248unnecessary loot competition
>>582853037Survival hunters are melee in this and have stronger talents for melee than warriors.
>>582853024mage will shit on shaman and hunter
>>582853247just throw some dots on the guy and run around a tree while he dies i do ts all the time. never fight a hunter without LoS to abuse.
>>582853241Locks are pretty strong vs hunt yeah, I wonder if orc racial would fix that
>>582852963Paladin generates a vast majority of threat from spell damage, not white hits. The only ability a protection paladin has that uses weapon damage is holystrike, and even that scales off spell power too. Consecrate, Holy Shield, Judgement, and Seal damage are all scaling with spell power exclusively. Fast caster weapons mean more ability damage, and more seal procs which means more mana regeneration. Look at inproved seal of fury.
>>582851759Yup
>>582852996As I said, yes faster is nice for more consistent generation, but half of what you're saying is irrelevant
>>582852808Blizz can’t balance warrior. Its entire class identity is mortal strike debuffing. When it loses that identity, it has to be made up somewhere else. Movement abilities aren’t useful enough so it ends up going into sustained damage and tankiness. Which are both shit traits in wow pvp, which is usually a cooldown based game where you setup a kill with cooldowns. Warriors lost their identity around cata or bfa or something. Anyways classic warriors sucked because it wasn’t a 3v3 game. And prot is like the only way they can survive mages or warlocks or hunters. Mortal strike isn’t impactful enough in classic style pvp where healing isn’t really that important. PvP in forever is probably going to be ranged classes with strong escape tools that almost never die, and melee classes that can’t do much unless the other sides melee tries to push in too far. So it’s like not really that interesting I guess and any type of methodical skill intensive coordinated assault units are somewhat unlikely to happen. This problem was fixed on retail by making nobody do damage basically, so there wasn’t any risk involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vNLgMV_hCEALEXENSUAL EXPOSING GOLD BUYING STREAMERS
>>582839836Hunter or Warrior
>>582853248They'll totally add lockpicking requirements in dungeons, right? Surely they wouldn't give the hero class their own unique profession system that lets them pick locks too, right?
>>582853248The highest dps
Why isn't Kungen getting banned despite buying tens of millions of gold between vanill and wrath?
>>582853585blacksmiths can unlock too lol
>>582853585I might have to go mage, someone on the dev team has a mage boner
>>582853248Kicks and lock picking. Warrior dps were giga cucked so like >>582853604 said they might be just the best physical dps now.
>>582853604>Highest dpsYou wish lol
>>582853604Odd because at 20 on my warrior and paladin, i do the most dps tanking in groups.
Bis pet will still be Broken Tooth
>>582853248So your rogue loot doesn't go to waste if it drops.
>>582853625That requires investment in blacksmithing and materials, mages get scrolls from mobs (for free) and have a once-per-day that gives them 3 scrolls for the price of one light feather.
>>582853407wow pvp was only fun in vanilla where gear disparity meant you could run in to a pack, hit sweeping strikes and just global a bunch of undergeared mooks. or warlocks that had raid boss hp that lived forever. the attempts at hyper balancing things completely ruined any sense of fun. tbc was where it started with resilience and arenas and it has only gotten worse. forever will follow more of the same trend
how do you beat shadow priests as ret?
>>582853675That just means the dps in your groups are bad
>>582853248>>582853604rogues should do the highest single target damage. they bring literally nothing else, it would be shit game design for them to be middle of the pack (and no i dont play rogue)
>>582853349I forget that you're all grey parsers here, and I'm trying to explain something to actual retards.
>>582853585this is my wake up call to roll a skyborne mage, that mana racial is gonna pay off like a warren buffet portfolio
If they roid pets out broken tooth will be even more critical
>>582853407warriors identity is doing a shit ton of damage if they have a pocket healer
>>582853821you dontthis isnt retailyou cannot outplay something you were never intended todm aggrend and get him to change it if you aren't happy
>>582851509Yeah but only a week cause you gotta play the actual game for a few days before the EOS and then you move onto the next slop
Improved Judgement or 5/5 Conviction?
>>582851359I'd rather play Last epoch season 5 than this korean slop.
>>582853407>melee classes that can’t do much unless the other sides melee tries to push in too farThey do that all the time though. That's the beauty of low skill BG PvP, you get to have fun.
>>582854039Improved Judgement
>>582853821Enh sham is the only melee who can beat spriest, get a mage to kill them for you.
>>582853614streamers are above the law because they are the elite class of world of warcraft>but theyre just no life skill retards who would be working at dollar general if not for streamingno one ever said streamers were talented or intelligent
>>582854116Thank you anon
Inshallah Greenfield will ban HR and SR
>>582853653For the price of nerfing AOE beyond the 4th target and reducing the slow on Imp. Blizzard, you get:>free weapon enhancements on par with wizard oil>free dynamite, no engineering required>the ability to make any elemental take 15% additional damage from your spells>the ability to reduce a beast's damage by 15%>a familiar that increases your intellect>the ability to pick locks>free stat scrolls for the entire game>at least two unique weapon transformations (Blade of Silverlaine -> Colflame Saber, Witchblade -> ???)And there's always the chance that they add SOD mage healer abilities into the game, and that shit was fucking busted, you did competitive dps while healing the entire raid.
>>582853929Everyone has a healer these days. Thats just called a normal pvp game. Without a healer it ends up being so shit like 3 dps classes look totally retarded. Nerf sap 10 was the only good pvp video doing that and that’s only because he gets to have a normal voice. You should hear most people’s voices shrek actually starts looking like he deserves the princess.
is there a class more cucked this beta so far than rogue?
>>582854694shaman
>>582851553>complain for years that wow is easy mode now>quit in cata when the raids actually become kind of difficultForever was made for people like him
>>582854694warrior/mesmer
Without any buffs and with equal gear, the dps out order of classes from highest dps to lowest should be>Warrior>Rogue>Mage/HunterPower gap>Warlock >Paladin>Druid>Priest/shamanThe classes at the top just don't have the tools the classes below them do. Without being ahead in dps by a significant enough margin then the entire game becomes weighted heavily in favor of classes that can heal.
>>582853248Cc
>>582854694Warrior and it’s not even close>dethroned tankLiterally the worst tank atm>dethroned scalingGarbage rage gen means even in full blues a warrior doesn’t really pose a threat, he just has more hpThere’s so many mobility racials too that they’re infinitely kiteable by every class except rogue, but rogues still shit on them
>>582851553he wouldnt think about because he would be talking about the news with the rest of night media
><Lemon Party>is your new official /wowfg/ PvE Alliance NA guildAdd us to all future OPs
>>582854752shamans are the weakest class in vanilla, hard to get cucked when you're shit
>>582854830I agree. Really finger's crossed they don't take away that trade-off balance that vanilla had.
I’d prefer to be horde but please pick a race for my hunter on PvP
>>582854830And why the fuck should Warrior be first?Obviously Rogue and Hunter should be the best DPS classes. Preferably Rogue above hunter because ranged tax.
>>582854606everyone else isnt rewarded for taking damage like a warrior is
Can ret paladin tank dungeons or do I need to spec into prot for that?
>>582854993Tauren
>>582855009warriors aren't either in forever lol
>>582854830Pure dps classes should deal the most dps, warrior shouldn't do as much damage as a rogue or mage.
>>582854869The name looks like an extension of Olympus, I’ll pass.
>HRmaking my own groups as a boomkin, healing them and not inviting any casters
>>582854995Rogue and hunter should have a higher dps than warrior when unbuffed I agree.Since they have less armor than warriorsWarrior can still be big pumpers when buffed and in a cleave scenario that's fine.But for single target, rogue should be top followed by hunter that has range on their side
>>582854830only classes that are locked on dps should be the top damage dealers
>>582854830>warrioragree>roguestealth is simply far too powerful to net them 2nd place. they belong in 3rd, possibly 4th>mage/hunteragree with mage, hunter has the qol of pets so they should be lower>warlockagree>paladinneeds to be swapped with priest>druidneeds to be swapped with shaman
>>582854995Hunter and mage are ranged and have tools to cc and slow. Rogue is below warrior because it has stealth, stuns, blind, sap, sprint. Again warrior has the fewest utility tools and relies on out damaging an equally geared opponent to win. If rogue and warrior did equal damage, then the rogue wins every engagement without contest.
>>582852753my exact plans. btw does feral still need to farm the meme hammer mace from gnomer? cuz i wont be playing one if so.
>>582855170>hunter should be lowerRetard, the entire point of a sniper is massive damage if you don’t handle it. The fact that their pet can die adds reason for them to be highest dps if pet stays alive and they’re allowed to just throw out snipes
>>582854884>shamans are the weakest class in vanilla, hard to get cucked when you're shitThey're still getting nefs though.
>>582851553Would decades of microtransactions in WoW soften the blow of the blue elves and the pre-order transmogs for him?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA>>582854852He predates Night Media, his managers were Maker Studios (now Disney Digital Media) which managed people like Ray William Johnson, Epic Rap Battles of History, Game Station, Tobuscus, among others.
>>582855026You can't
>>582855265How about we split it mid-way.Rogue tops for single target damage.Warrior tops for cleave scenarios.Deal?
>>582855304you will probably need to get it but there’s a new engineering consumable that will let you recharge the charges on it so you only need to get one hammer
>>582854830More or less spot on. I do think Druids should be overall bottom dps simply because they can kind of do everything. I think it's good that they can be solid tanks and healers.
>>582847591What's the math on that? each block is at least 4 damage on a defensive ability that essentially costs zero rage. 10 is really only affects your auto attack every 2-4~ secondand unlike your auto attacks, this doesn't miss
>>582855123guild OP here fuck olympussy
>Dusting off my old battle.net account to potentially get back into this>Open website>It's in fucking ChineseBillion dollar company...
>>582855374interesting and gay
>>582855326They also have mail gear and lots of ways to keep you at range in addition to a pet. Can also be good in melee now too. If they were relegated to leather, you'd have a point.
>>582854830>Without any buffs and with equal gear, the dps out order of classes from highest dps to lowest should be>Rogue>Mage/Hunter>Priest/shaman>Warlock>Druid>Power gap>Paladin>Warriorftfy
>join horde>everyone speaks Chinese
>>582855170>paladin>needs to be swapped with priestPriest has better heals, offensive dispel, mana burn, passive healing, and derives most of its damage passively through instant cast dots. There is no way it should place anywhere but last overall in dps.
>>582839836>picrelwtf is that lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YIhaSa98pw
>>582855304Its unique so you can only hold one now. Also they changed feral to use the weapons dmg for its attacks and they can use on hit effects while in form. You won't need to use the pummler anymore.
The actual list should be in order of highest to lowestRogue (because range tax, needing to move with mechanics/follow boss and their entire purpose is to do damage)Hunter (because 60% of their damage disappears if the pet dies, and their entire purpose is to land huge hitsArcane Mage because they have to work around mana issuesWarrior because they have sustain and a million buttons, they should also be designated to mitigate damage whenever it appears, like addsRest don’t matter. They’re hybrids or support (warlock)
>>582855559nuh uh
>>582855559Oh that's just Orcish.
>>582854586>nerfing AOE beyond the 4th targetDid this really happen? I can't find any info
>>582855353No. Rogue objectively would be completely broken if it is top dps above all others. You cannot have a class that can CC another for 30+ seconds doing the best single target damage in the game. That is the opposite of balanced.
>>582855564priests are clothies and already food for rogues and hunters. mana burn does nothing against warriors. paladins are tankier and have better defensive utility which translates over to allies. also they have bubbles.simply put any class with immunities like that should not deal high dps. even mid tier dps is questionable. if they didnt have divine shield they'd be higher
>join Alliance >everybody speaks Chinese
>Another night of brownshits seethingSorry, gotta pay the hybrid tax.
>>582855857True!
>>582855716It's so fucking squishy though. I thought the squishyness is already the tradeoff for the cc. I've been two tapped by warriors and even Paladins before.
>>582855757>priests are clothies>have the best absorb damage spell in the game>passive healing >offensive dispel>15% damafe reduction No. You're wrong.
>>582855572It's a furry meme, the character is usually saying "you like kissing boys, don't you?"
>can’t have horde and alliance chars on same faction>just delete the characters when i wanna try other faction and restore when i wanna go backProblem, blizzard?
>join horde>你他妈到底想干什么?
>>582855928If you're getting hit in a 1v1 by a warrior or paladin as an equal level, equally geared rogue, then you're bad at the game.
i can’t decide between priest and druid TwTi mainly wanna heal…
>>582855936>can't use their heal/support kit in sformthere you go
>>582855715I can't imagine them not putting it in, the presentations made it sound like they were putting in soft AOE caps across the board and apparently consecration is bugged.
>game is so full literally everything is camped>still 5-10 minute timers on damn near every camp of mobs>2 weeks later>literally no one killing any mobs, my area is completely empty aside from 1 guy I see mining like 70 yards away>camps are hyperspawning literal seconds after I clear themMAKE IT MAKE SENSE
is there any chance they add another race for alliance shaman before release? the numbers are worrying, also yes i dont wanna fucking be a dwarf
>>582854830>warrior complaining that warlocks out-tank him
>>582855928you have STEALTH bro. the ability to pick and choose when and where to fight. if things go bad you can vanish/reset pretty much forever. you arent meant to stand there taking a beating and if you do thats a skill issue
>Reddit is overly mad over streamers buying gold and receiving no punishment>4chan barely caresI thought this place was one of free thinkers?
>>582856256>I thought this place was one of free thinkers?What on earth made you think that?
Anons? I'm afraid of the faction balance on PvP... seems like every sane person will roll Horde, even the PvE players will roll Horde this time (UD Pally, Elf Shaman and good racials in general). I guess the Alliance has Asmonigger and Olympus... but I just know when this faggot will quit, his retard viewers will quit too... I just want a fun game with lots of open world PvP and not always 10:1 like on previous Blizzard projects...
>>582856256Why would I concern myself with streamers and their gold, as a free thinker with no say in the matter?
He's right, you know.
>>582856256>>4chan barely caresWhat is this place meant to say? Devs sure as fuck don't come here.
>>582856298theres a forced faction balance.
>>582856343just consume product
how do i make friends in wow?
>>582856451>I LOVE RMT P2W SHITTY VIDEOGAME, YAYsomeone should shoot him in the face
Can we get back to talking about the game? Or is Streamer drama more fun now?As someone who doesn't watch streamers and avoids that culture all together, I find it incredibly ironic when people, who claim to hate streamers, can't seem to shut the fk up about them.It doesn't make you any less para social than their fans when you find yourself obsessing over every move they make.You're attention is what they want and you're bending over and serving it them on a silver plate.
>>582856126That's not what it says though. Therefore priest must be at the bottom. Leaving shadowform would also need a cost associated with it too.>Lingering Shadow: Unable to cast holy and discipline spells for N seconds after leaving shadow form
>>582856451without rmt gold prices would be at a quarter of what they areyou are always affected by rmt
>>582838545You know the biggest thing I don't see warriors mention when they talk about rage normalization is how much better they're going to be to play now without external buffs. You're going to have like 2x as much rage as you used to pre-normalization.
>>582856298Pvpers are rolling Alliance and specifically Human.
>>582856508invite someone to camp a flight path with you
Looking for a pocket femhealer on launch
>>582856508Throw in spicy 4chan maymays and see if anyone gets them. Doing Deadmines? Drop a "Formerly Chuck's". See a warlock casting his banes? Call him a big guy.
>>582856256we've known for years streamers get special treatment but its nice reddit finally caught on i guess
>>582856508tell everyone you're mentally disabled
>>582856632what class would you prefer?
The guy who noted that the Shill Team 6 is on full-on Reddit damage control wasn't lying. These generals are moving much slower and with much less furry porn. The faggotry in these threads is off the charts. Some real maladjusted individuals, and that's NOT including any racism or other shit that people actually come to 4Chan for. I'm not a Discord Troon, but is there a an actual decent place to talk WoW Forever that isn't Reddit fags or Furry/trannies?? Telegram?? I'd use filters, but they are useless here without ID's or filtering all pictures. I scroll by for now, you get used to figuring out quick which post has substance, which doesn't but goddamn.
>>582856451>t. person who runs a bot farm and buys goldnever trust any of these cretins, they're always falseflagging liars
>>582856674You just repeated >>582856638
>>582856508Tell everybody if they don't become your friends you're going to die
>>582851553He'd at the end of the day probably still defend it because he knew how his bread was buttered and had no conflicts about that.
>>582856801don't forget to tell them to whisper 10 more people.
>>582856228I don't even play warrior. In SoD I played priest. Only a braindead retard would think warriors should not be top dps. The game would be worse off with classes that have more utility and healing doing equal or more damage than those that don't. By buffing hybrids so much throughout the expansions, blizzard has been forced to homogenize the classes because of this problem. Everyone has to ha e every tool, otherwise everyone cannot do the same level of dps because the game would be heavily in favor of those with more tools.
Damn, how did they do it? Riverglades is fucking comfy, a natural extension of the comfy elewyn forest-redridge-westfall-duskwood loop.
>>582856693Priest
>>582856451Your absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
113... can still get the wrists out of HoT and the 20 books ring
I WANT ALLIANCE SKYBORNE SHAMANS
>>582856918correctjust look at how sod turned outyour 3 healer hybrids (druid/fagadin/shaman) were orders of magnitude stronger than everyone elsepeople legitimately see nothing wrong with this because they're fucking brown retards
>>582855924if they don't add new classes at launch I am not going to play the gameit is insulting that we're getting the SAME SHIT FROM 22 YEARS AGO and faggy blizzshills cocksuckers THINK THIS IS OKAY
>Gameplay loops! >Streamers! >Social contracts! >QoL! >Gamer dads who don't have time! >GDKP! >Paid races! >Retail models! How does it affect you personally chud?
>>582856883Are you implying he'd be bribed? He almost never talked about WoW after he quit, implying that Blizzard's PR team either never tried to bring him back, or they tried and he rejected it.
>>582856451the goyim have gone insane
I want haranir, half-humans, half-orcs, half-draenei and half-taurens.
