>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoWSet in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, loot, graphics and much moreMany new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanMore than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Class Deep Dives Druid & Hunterhttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24301515>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - EU, PvP, Horde<Little Space> - NA, PvP, Alliance>>582970297
Press K to kick the retoilet players out of this thread and out of this gameK
>>582988859>>582988843wow pvp sucks, play a real game like SF6
>>582988990>>582988946
>>582988990U into sf6 man?
>>582988990>play a real game like _____holy shit, it really is still the same cope after all these years LMAO
>>582989034nah hes right
https://youtu.be/yHSjZw0aMSI
>>582988990>he can only think in terms of organized pvp where you win internet pointsPvE niggers need to be shot
chuds won
>>582989092word i prefer my disorganized "pvp" where i kill people 40 levels under me who are currently engaged in a fight already with a mob or 2
pvpfags are mentally ill
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
>>582988990>SF6Are they still sliming each other up there? I played for a bit and hated the mechanic.
>>582988990You probably suck at that too faggot you’re not good at anything. How many times do I have to tell you, im a rank 1 pvper and only r1 pvpers get to talk about game balance. Our opinions are worth hundreds of yours like yours is actually worth pennys mines worth like a big bag of diamonds and gold.
>>582989179How did he create a character without kvetching about body 1 and body 2?
>>582989223>where i kill people 40 levels under mlmaooooo this nigger fights people over earthroot
>>582989206them titties doe
What are you gonna do at lvl 30, wowfg?
Did they already increase level capper? It is today right
>>582989297>What are you gonna do at lvl 30, wowfg?Same as lvl 20, get bis, wpvp.
>>582989297grief the non-preppers
>>582989206That's it. I'm playing female human mage.
>>582989363based 40/40 chad
>>582989274>>582989416This but warlock
>>582989180Why are they gay?
Why won't Big B do the one thing that can kill RMT: remove trading.
I'll never forgive Blizzard for not adding draebaes
>>582989239Theyre actually usually like the upper caste of society because they have good computers and gaming equipment which most ppl can’t afford. Theyre also higher intelligence because they’ve excelled at their hobby, and distinguished themselves compared to their peers. You guys look like actual retards honestly when you discuss pvp compared to gladiators especially rank 1 glads who are finishing much higher than normal glads. Glads still somewhat impressive but r1 is wayyyyyy higher skill that’s like comparing a bezos to a guy who just has a super car and a mansion. It’s just a totally different class and they shouldn’t be held in the same regard. The commoners who are keeping the arena rating fungible are just useful idiots.
>>582989557they would ruin their animations
>>582989557Shut up goatfucker
>>582989297Same as on lvl 20. Make another character. Seriously there is nothing to do once you hit max, I fear it will be the same on release as well and I'll stop playing eventually.
alexseanul might be the biggest retard on twitch
>>582989180cute
>>582989578the upper caste brahmin sAAR
>>582989636Is this like a bot dude it never shuts the fuck up. Or he might have like an actual learning disability like mental retardation.
>>582989636Am I ever gonna get a fuckin qrd?
>>582989631>I fear it will be the same on release as wellit will be, but instead of 8 hours to reach level cap it will take you days, and for what? so you can raid log another character you dont care about
>>582989605But sexo
>>582989759tummy licky licky
if they're banning rmt they should allow gdkps
>>582989684The fact that you even know what that is means you’re losing. You seem like you’re having a really hard time in your life. Life can be hard dude you should check yourself into a psyche ward. Read the book “how to win friends and influence people” dude it’s totally gonna help you out. I got 3 big things to tell you. 1. You’re a fucking retarded faggot. 2. Literally kill yourself and 3. Actually take some people with you, especially your parents who I especially hate for creating you
>>582989701>alex twitch mods in the thread
>>582989853>they should allow gdkpsno
>>582989853rmt has always been banned
>>582989859fine speech
>>582989759Gawd damn
>>582989897LOL good one
>>582989885why should they enforce how players distribute loo? just make it all personal loot then.
>>582989853>she thinks they'll ban people for gdkplol lmao
>>582989994>just make it all personal loot theni support personal loot in forever
>>582989994>why not just do [thing that killed retail] well you see anon
>>582990036personal loot is good
lvl 30 patch notus wher!?
>>582990108it's 1AM in california
>>582990131troontime
>>582990035>>582990080>>582990128go back to retail and get raped while ur at it, thanks! :3
What's a Paladin?
>>582989994>just make it all personal loot then.I wouldn't mind. But personally I don't think GDKPs are primarily bad because they encourage gold buying (they do), or because loot is distributed in a certain way. I'm against GDKPs because they erode the social foundation of the game. I'm against any kind of PUG for the same reason. If you're going to have GDKPs, or SR runs, you might as well just add raid finder.
Reminder that anyone against personal loot wants to steal your loot for themselves, why get lucky yourself when you can just take someone else luck
i thought they removed personal loot in retail
>>582990271drop itself is a group luck, you winning need roll is your luck
>>582989994I agree we should make it all personal loot>>582990035Based we will push this on them bro. I'm advocating for it in trade chat daily and it's crazy how it makes the retards there seethe kek
>>582990217His comeback is anyway now guys!
>>582990149i dont play retail
aion 2 is too much fun, I don't think I'll play forever, blizzard didn't even ban the rmters yet
>>582990271It just reduces drama so I don't get why it would be bad. No one can seriously think it's a good thing when someone off-spec rolls need and the group disbands mid run. But it's what will happen if it's not a thing.
>>582990414>aion 2 is too much fun,said nobody ever
>>582989557I kinda want them to repurpose draenei into playable satyr with optional bottomless underwear kinda like those pan folks from Shadowlands
>>582990036Implementation of it killed retail, not so much the idea. What personal loot should do is always award you an item, no chance, no reroll, no nothing, you kill boss you get a drop from it, it might not be drop you can use however which is why you should be able to trade it with people in your group or raid.
>>582990512>cant blame your loot council>cant blame dkp because you dont have enough pointspersonal loot is just a personal roll, youd think many people here would like
>>582990271I only agree if loot trading would be disabled. Personal loot with trading is the most retarded shit.
alex said negro on stream lol
what's best, personal loot or corrupt loot council loot?
>>582990414>>582990521Stoopz seems like hes having a lot of fun. He knows all about games that respect your time.
>>582990676why would he do that
>>582990676I gave him the pass
What could have been...
>>582990676¡yo da el paso!
remember when aion 1 came out and everyone laughed at them and kept playing wowwonder whatever happened to that game
>every creature should drop whatever they're wearing with 0 durability>one chest, one pair of gloves etc.
>>582990250That's a good one. GDKPs are same as LFR.
>>582990806ai slop? good thing that didn't happen.
what's stopping hunter from being one of the strongest DPS in the game @ 60? it just seems so good
>>582990946>still being against AI in the year 2026kek, found the poorfag
>>582990951warriors
>applies to Summon Demon>applies to Create Health / Soulstone (mana only)>applies to Demon ArmorThis is a must for a Warlock on a PvP server.
>>582990806There couldn't because the entire goal was to add a pretty race to ugly horde.That's it, that's the whole reason.However, they could have been the red-eyed undead elves, yes.But in the typical blizzard fashion, that was "too obvious" so they made some stupid sky elves instead.
Can we talk about monsters and memories?
>make an alliance character on a pvp server>server becomes a mono-faction horde serverIt's going to happen...
>>582990946The new icons are almost as soulless as aislop.
>>582990806it makes too much sense. they must subvert our heckin expectations
Why would you play PvP if you have to corpse run every 2 minutes
>>582990946Why does AI make some people still seethe? Is it a job replacement thing?It's as nonsensical as seething against Photoshop for replacing "artists".
>>582990951Hunters will have the same problem they did back in 2004. There'll be too many of them, they'll attract dribbling retards and they'll get a reputation of being terrible players who wipe raids/dungeons.
>>582991015>remove all your gear>hellfire to death>pop soulstone>summon the raid for free
parsechads we're picking night elf over human right?
>>582990806AI SLO SLO SLOOOOOP
>>582991010survival hunters are betterwarriors
>>582990806they already removed ogre units from orc in wc3
Aren't races in classic behind reputable grind? They should add that to this game. Hell, make certain race class combinations unlockable through quest chains.
>>582991105>laughs in lone wolf marksman
>>582991156lol
>>582991015You'll be going into that tree for lvl 60 endgame regardless. It makes it so you can immediately reapply all your buffs in battlegrounds after you respawn.
>>582990806>>582991019Just add San'layn if the Horde needs a "pretty race". >>582991104see >>582991104
>>582991104>Nooo you should waste hours utilizing years of experience to pitch a single throwaway idea, not just have it done in a matter of minute like the non-artist you are!
>Faps to ai slop>post nut clarity hits>ai is... cringe!!
still whining about elves?
lvl 30 patch notes tonight right? eu bros
>newfags in the general getting mad over alexsensual postsPLEASE FUCK OFF TOURIST
>>582991285nobody cares about that faggot
>>582990951Me. I'm stopping them.
>>582991250This but with futa. No balls and female only of course.
>>582991217Where did you see that? It's not on legacy calculator yet.
>>582991285alex looks old and tired now i cant watch his stream
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIYYYEEEEEE MORE INFORMATION? I MUST BUY GOLD AND MINMAX AND THEORYCRAFT THE BEST THING I CANT JUST LET IT HAPPEN AND PICK THE RACE AND SPECC THAT FITS MY CHARACTER AND WHAT I LIKE AAAAAA
>>582991234I have no idea about sanlayn lore other than being basically vampires, but Sylvanas is basically an undead elf and her cohorts are as well.Like I said, it would have made too much sense, so obviously it's unthinkable for blizzard to implement it.
>>582991019There's only a few dozen of the undead elves out there, canonically.
>>582991358I like being strong.
Wow so the update will happen only tomorrow apparently and take a couple hours. So you can just play in two days as euro. Fuck this.
no new classes? no playit's that simpleI'm not going to play the same game again 3 times
>>582991269
>>582990806I never got the demand for Ogres. They would be the least popular race by far if they were ever added.
>>582991337https://www.wowhead.com/forever/legacy-calculatorWe've known all the legacy talents since blizzcon demo
>>582991367San'layn are elf vampires, they aren't any more complicated than that
>>582988990>drive rush and throw loopsNo thanks
>>582991449why do you think that when people play tauren and troll?
>>582991408Have you tried just being better? You will be able to beat 90% of players with an inefficient build if you are simply better at the game
>>582991449>playable ogre>all spells deal 50% less damage>can cast 2 spells at once>can pick which 2 spells you want to cast and bind them to a single button
>>582991432k, bye
>>582991394bruhseriously, this """"argument"""" againvoid elves are supposedly a handful of high elves and blood elves, but nobody has a problem with thatplayable maghar are literally a bunch of escapees from draenor who JUST make it before being genocided by Yrelnobody cares about this, not even blizzard, it's just excuses
>>582991515Because Ogres are somehow even uglier than taurens and trolls. Although i disagree they would be unpopular, just the novelty alone would make them popular at first.
>>582990560Not much in to hairy legs, but you do you senpai.
>>582991432We might get new classes if that leak was even remotely real.But I want like a minimum a full year before stuff like that is added
>>582991531Playable ogres would be one-heads only and they would be scale down to 60% the size of regular ogres to fit through doors. This is blizzard we're talking about
>>582991576>void elves are supposedly a handful of high elves and blood elves, but nobody has a problem with thatvoid elves are fucking meme race that was only added to have new content
Am I the only one who detests Arcane Blast? Why do they keep forcing this lame ass spell on Arcane?
>>582991032It's easily solved desu. Create as many 50/50 layers as possible. The remaining portion of the majority faction gets put on mono faction layers.
does serpent sting ever become not a total waste of a gcd?
>>582991612>leakThey outright hinted at new classes at blizzcon then put out a survey last week listing a bunch of new ones. You don't need a """"leak""""" to tell you things Blizz is already putting out in the open.
>>582991631>new Ogre race are canon sized but automatically duck under doorframes to fit inside buildings much like characters in FPS games vault over obstaclesblizzard hire this man (me)
>>582991523Wasn't true in classic for over half the classes, and I'm pretty sure it's also not true for at least one spec in retail.
>>582991717For all I knew the survey wasn't real
>>582991714no just like arcane
>>582991472How much does it cost to reset your legacy tree?
>>582991663because they don't want to bother making new spells and it was added in tbc so it feels classic enough
>>582991105This is why I don't group with hunters. They belong in the woods not in my dungeon group.
>>582991663yeah its pretty lame. i think baelfire bolt from sod wouldve taken its place nicely and then you can give arcane something more interesting
>>582991642>fucking meme race that was only added to have new contentYou just described sky elves as well.
The best feature of pvp servers is if you get camped/outnumbered you get an incrasing lockout from playing the game
>>582991663would you rather sit there and press arcane missiles every 5 seconds?
>>582991743I heard a streamer say "just make pygmy ogres!" Which to me misses the point of playing one
>>582991642>void elves are fucking meme race that was only added to have new contentSame goes for every allied race. They only exist to have something to list under the NEW FEATURES section of an xpac.
>>582991717>hinthttps://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Taleboundtheyre already in retail
>>582991848This guy is German and probably plays a druid tank. He also eats literal shit.
>>58299179850g you can see the option next to the flight master in org
>>582991831yes the last non-meme race was goblin
>>582991598Also hairy forearms and claws for fingernails, yes.
>>582991714you have more GCDs than you can spend, there's no steady shot
>>582991963Hairy forearms are kinda hot tho ngl
>>582991871there more I hear about this 'streamer' fellow, the less I care for him
FVVVVVVAAAAARRRRRRRRRKKKSD Orcs are ludokino
>>582991950why would i be german? i play priest
I want to fuck Goat women.Why won't Forever let me fuck goat women?Why why why why why why FUCKING WHY?
>>582992083in due time, brother
>>582991869I would rather have new completely unique abilities and fresh spec direction than backporting shit from retail. They somewhat managed to do that in SoD, even if most of it was copying ascension homework.
>>582992083forever has a no trannys policy
Alright, I change my mindSkelves are hot.
>>582992083morph
>we want high elves!!isn't that exactly the same as blood elves? not a big lore guy but didn't kael just "now we're called blood elves" and that's that?
aion 2 paid early launch had 170k people simultaneously onlinewow beta 370k characters made, with the majority of people having 3 or 4 characters alreadyso aion 2 PAID launch has MORE players than wow forever beta lmfao, imagine the real launch in 4 daysthat's why blizzard stopped showing online numbers for their games years ago, they don't want to be humiliated ahahah
What in the actual fuck did they do to warlock 1-10? They gutted dots so hard the class feels awful to play 1-10 without a wand
>added in new "immersive" lightingNighttime isn't so dark you can't fucking see anything without a torch or being near a cityYeah, real immersive...
>>582991015>this was one of my biggest gripes about playing a warlock and there was already a solution built into the game
>>582992174they're alliance blood elves
>>582992083Unfuck their calves/ankles/hooves and running animationsthen big sex
>>582992158NIGGA ITS LITERALLY BLOOD ELVES. THEIR VERY EXISTANCE REMINDS ME THAT I CANT PLAY BLOOD ELVES. FUCK YOU BITCH ASS NIGGA
>>582992178That's nice mate. See you in 3 months when NC start sneaking in P2W shit.
>>582991869Yes. AM looks cool and feels good to use, it even has a unique quirk in that the visual of the spell upgrades as you get better ranks. AB is the least satisfying damaging spell to cast.
Tauren and Troll are the least played races for 22 years.Only Tauren and Troll players would play ogres.Only Tauren and Troll players would play ANY new race that doesn't have roughly human proportions.
>>582992174Blood elves are high elves that call themselves that for political reasons
>>582992158Awful writing, is the whole zone like that?
>>582992083>wotlk chestJust use Brawler's Harness ffs
so prot warriors want daggers now? o_O !!!
>>582992178>PAIDso is the betaand its capped at 30 ...
rogue status?mage status?
>>582992083SEXOOOOOOOOOOOO
>pvpniggers are getting uppity againI rolled on PvPto check if realmless would balance faction populations into more fair fights and it doesn't, it's all the same shit as it always was, one side just overwhelms the other with numbers are prevents them from playingYou're not missing anything on PvP, do yourself a favor and just go PvE and enjoy the game, play PvP whenever you want in BGs where there's at least an attempt to have an even fightFor every 1 decent PvP fight there's 30 instances where you get nuked by some twink or 60 or a raid group
>>582991015Wait the healthstone still costs a shard?
>>582992367Still the best 2 pvp classes by a mile
>>582992178that's cool but is aion 2 actually good? because i looked at some class gameplay and it looked like a clusterfuck of colors and sparkly shit with basically no way to parse what the fuck was going on.i thought the characters looked shit. like in wow i can tell what spells/abilities are being used because theyre all visually distinct. i literally went through 6 class videos in aion 2 and i couldn't tell the difference between a vanguard or w/e the fuck tank is called, the other warrior, the ranger and the sorcerer.complete clusterfuck.maybe im just getting old though
>>582992330More stabbing more rage, simple as
I will flirt with orc players in parties and slop all over their dicks with my skelf...
>>582992281Barrage is worse, but i agree that blast should be a better spell
>>582992278if they keep the player numbers high they can maintain the game with people paying the subscription + buying the slutty skins that cost $30
>>582991717Blizz finally realized making new classes isn't some huge resource heavy undertaking after seeing Ascension shit out 21 of them.
>>582992391no u
why do I keep getting party invites from orc hunters
>>582992409don't rogues get cucked now in pvp? i heard there's lots of new ways of stealth detection or something
>>582992201I mean... this but unironically? But if you want to have retail lightning, you can just up the gamma to like 1.5
patiently waiting for more cunnymane slop
>>582992391>world of warcraft>joins server without warkek
>>582992391pvp servers are sovlful when you try to run to SFK as an alliance, get ganked like multiple horde at pyrewood village and respawn in southshore
>>582992330daggers have always been okay for prot warriors, only thing that made it worse than swords/axes was not having weapon skill racial i believe
>>582992412you can test for yourself in 4 days, the combat is very simple, but it's fun because the pve revolves around killing bosses in dungeons and dodging their attacks, it's fast pacedyou can probably play both wow and aion 2 because they are very different, I'll probably do that for one or two months
>>582992514>She doesn't know the original devs regret call it warcraft
>>582991714yes it's good in forever
>>582992457i can shit out 21 classes too by mix and matching other class skills and dont have to worry about balancing them at endgame where people screech
>>582992560>metzen in 2026
DABU
>>582992174they also started siphoning fel magic to sustain themselves instead of arcane but that probably doesn't have any adverse effectsregardssargeras with a groucho mask
>>582992330>thunderclap>no weapon damage>revenge>no weapon damage>shield slam>no weapon damageyup looks like you just wanna poke with a dagger to generate more rage
>>582992486They'll get seen in stealth more often, but it doesn't really matter with how broken the new talent tree is. There might also be more stealth level items we don't know about yet.
>>582992391trvke
>>582992523I got a job my time is far more valuable than wasting it running back and forth to my corpse to play the part of the game I'm actually trying to
>>582992282troll was the best pve race since Wrath and up to Shadowlands
>>582992412its fun but combat is literally holding down a button that rotates all your dps spells while you hold down another button that animation cancels them with your auto attackthen you just manually dodge and use big spells
>>582992748if you roll night elf and get the legacy talents youll be as faster as an epic mount while dead
>>582991015>>582992394It looks like Blizzard did something right. This is truly massive for warlock players.
>>582992826blizzard doing it right would have it be baseline instead of costing these new legacy points
>>582991015>mid fight>die>soul stone>hold on bro let me create a healthstone real quick>die
>>582992330You want axe because of increased critical strike chance
>>582992921thats basically baseline, and for classic andys who want the pain its optional
>Human>Male>Warrior>Will invite everyone in my zone to form together to stomp filthy mudhut niggers
>>582992178>aion 2At this point anyone who falls for the korean mmo scam deserves it.
>>582992921You want to be in that tree anyway for the 10% honor gained so realistically you only lose out on like 8% less durability taken. It could have been a lot worse.
>>582992391vurtne fanboys got real quiet after this post
>>582992083Stay strong brother, stay strong
>>582988990I only play SF6 for the world tour mode where my OC donut steel gets to meet all the characters and learn from them
>>582993039-40% on durability cost is huge for tanks
do people care about raiding in the pvp servers? I want to play the pvp server but I also want to join a raiding guild that is serious about it
>uhrm yes, DaoC, Albion, WAR and Eve are all bad PvP games because they focus on wpvp and not instanced pvp like arenas and battlegrounds. You have to play 2v2 if you are a PvP player! WPvP is unfair and I can't handle it! I can't 1v3 not because I'm bad and stupid, but because it's just unfair guyz, I'd rather go AFK than try to play/socialize, mweh!
>>582993139Ofc. There has always been objectively more raiding guilds on the PvP realms.
>>582993013thrall is basically conan
>>582992201The only game I've seen to try and portray realistic night is The Forest
>>582991015woooow cant wait to level all classes to 60 to use those cheevo talents
>>582993134I was strictly talking about warlocks. Also I assume tanks don't care about the no resources spent when respawing talent
>>582993146mad pvp NEET
>>582992391as a pvper, world pvp was always shit, its just fucking with people or getting fucked with, see me in the gulch
Why didn't they make all these class reveals before two weeks into the beta? Wouldn't have bought this garbage if I knew this. Enjoy your retail lite I guess
>>582992514nta but I started playing wow because it was uniquely pve as opposed to all the pvp slop back then, when multiplayer basically meant "kill each other"
>>582993146>albion>kill someone and get all their loot>wow>kill someone and get nothing
>>582993217Varian is literally just Conan, including getting over his anger issues with time.
>>582992921Horizontal progression, nigger.
GULDAN IS ON COOLDOWNRATE MY JOKE
>>582993275Like it was with OSRS, to gage how much we want it before they do it. No point of designing a class no one votes for
>>582993146yup.
wow forever should've been like albion online (which is a copy of eve online), a real cutthroat pvp game
ahem HELLO?????WHEN ARE THE PATCHI NOTUS DROPPAN
>>582992391This but unironically
>>582992391Retail players terrified of PvP is truly hilarious
>>582992826>>582991015Apparently this was tested on the beta and it does NOT include warlock shards
wow forever should've made the world the main character by making bis gear drop from world bosses
>>582992391>twinkanother german carebear spotted
>>582993414No. WoW owes its success to being a casual friendly game.
>>582989297Imagine peaking at 12
>>582993414>like albion online>real cutthroat pvp gameSo a dead game?
>>582993414ascension tried this and literally no one played their high risk pvp
>>582993532they hated him for speaking the truth
>>582993146WoW pvp was an afterthought meanwhile DAoC, albion, and eve were all designed and balanced around that.It's like playing Counter Strike and believing the only relevant mode are surf maps.
>pvp should make you lose all your gear and put your character at level 1 and brick your GPU if you die in wpvp for it to be a REAL game for hardcore gamers such as myself!>wtf where are all the players??MMO PvPiggers have to be the dumbest fuckers in gaming, all of their ideas are terrible and appeal to like 7 people globally, 6 of which are chinks or russians waiting with a bunch of cheats
>>582993478takes one to know one
>>582993940This worked on ascension wow btw.Corpse looting was peak.
>>582994027ascension was a dead server with no one playing
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY FRICKING ECELEB WAS JUST BANNED FOR GOLD BUYING, AND HE ONLY BOUGHT LIKE 200G WHAT THE FUCKWHAT THE FUCK WHY THE FUCK IS ZIGO ALLOWED TO BUY 1.5K BUT MY ECELEB CAN'T EVEN BUY 200G?????????????K*S BLIZZARD!!!!!!!!! D*ADAH CLOWN COMPANY AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>582994027>>582993656
>>582994112lol, lmao
you cant have good meaningful PvP as long as you have factions that literally split the playerbase in half and half the server is your forced ally. If you want good PvP in an MMO the player has to be his own faction. Alone in the world until he finds friends/clan something wow just cannot do.
>>582994027Blizz paypig fake gamers couldn't handle a real MMO.
>>582994112nta, i played bronzebeard ascension for 2 months and it was at no point dead during thatthe high risk pvp aspect of the game made it more fun for me
>>582994268the people that play mmos are gainfully employed without much free time, theres a reason rmt is so popularthe unemployed neets like yourself at 35 are a minority
>>582994027Did it? It worked on a private server? Those are well known for reputable practices and not doing things such as selling loot or characters and not being full of pay2win thirdworld poorfags who spend the very little money they have on ingame advantages to not feel like the complete losers they areTell me, where is this server now?
>>582994027I still remember my good ol guild... <server jihad> ...Muhhamad was a real G, KOS was really a brilliant guild rule.
the problem with pvp is that some classes are just way better at it than othersif there were meaningful consequences to pvp like corpse looting, it would disincentivize people from playing the classes they like and everyone would be playing rogue/mage and just trying to survive
>tfw your e-daddy didn't get banned
THEYRE FINNA IMPLEMENT DHDONT LET EMTAKE THE SURVEY
>>582994210In the vanilla Alpha this actually was the case, you were just a mercenary who could get allied with the main factions and even learn their languages. The language skill is still in Classic as a remnant of that system. You could even betray your own faction and join the Scourge, Scarlet Crusade, Orgrimmar or Forsaken.
>>582994358no that server was around for 10 years and never had more than 12 people online
>>582994392*Yet, Asmongrifter WILL get banned 40k people will get banned with him it'll be GLORIOUS
>>582994347More like the dadgamers all gravitated toward blizzard MMOs because it's the only one where nobody will laugh at them when they pull up with a fully swiped character because they blend right in.Can't do that in any real MMO like OSRS.
>>582994358>Tell me, where is this server now?you talk like a fag, lolgone, just like all the other once popular pserversthey wont going to fuck with a cease and desist, retard
>>582994435>Lineage 2 imagethe nostalgia... I miss these days...
>>582994435that would OF been rpg kino
ALEXENSUAL IS THE ONLY STREAMER I RESPECT
>>582994508actually my top sources told me turdle and ascension were far FAR out of blizzards reach
>>582994506osrs is mostly a single player game and the majority of the playerbase doesnt care what some random is doing
>>582994508it lasted so long because it was so insignificant that bliz didnt even care about you
>>582994506>Can't do that in any real MMO like OSRS.laaawl he does not know sisters
>>582994565 I don't respect any man who earns a living by performing in front of a camera for strangers on the internetmight as well be a whore at that point
>>582994435we need a PK system in wow
what time is the lvl cap raise ?
>>582994631No difference to holywood
>>582994508Yea get fucked pserf nigger
>>582994565for me its rare spawn
>unironic blizzdrones ITTBringing up private servers really rustled their jimmies.Even though the main talking point was pvp systems, kek.
>I'M NOT A PUSSY LIKE YOU! I'M A REAL MAN BECAUSE I PLAY THIS RANDOM RUSSIAN MMO THAT 200 PEOPLE PLAY GLOBALLY get a grip, do something with your life
>Buying Gold>In a "Nothing will transfer to the actual game" BetaI feel like I am having a stroke. Why would you do this?
>>582994585>and the majority of the playerbase doesnt care what some random is doingWe love judging people who try to blend in in private. It's one of the most fun ways to spend time in OSRS to just look at some of these exquisite specimen that you see are clearly bondies with bought capes trying to blend in.
>>582994774>200maybe 20
>>582994781100k streamer tourney
>>582994781100,000$ tournament retardo
>>582994132who
>>582994435we ll never get mmo kino like early L2 perhaps ever. Riot is Riot i doubt they have the capability to make a good MMO and NCSoft is too far gone in their pay to win mobile dogshit.
>erm... but how does people buying gold affect you personally?maybe because it skyrockets the price of consumes, crafting mats, and bis twink pvp gear? How am I gonna afford this shit when they will cost THOUSANDS of gold because of duel tournament faggots?
I will play for the first 2 months, do the new content and then unsub until the next patch just like how Yoshi tells us
>>582993414Hardcore pvp mmos attract only the biggest assholes which drive out anyone else within a month. EVE survives because it caters to a niche and there's lots of stuff to do that isn't pvp
>>582994597?
Warriors say they should have the best DPS because they bring no utility. So their argument is they get the benefit of every other classes buffs bring none of their own and should be rewarded for it while all the other classes they benefit off should eat shit because of the very utility the warriortards rely on to be OP.
>>582994390The problem is that the game isn't built around it in the slightest>there is a significant power gap between levels and nothing preventing higher level players from killing lower level ones>gear takes a long time to gather>no disincentives to pvp in some casesYour leveling experience would be that level 60 naked hunters send their pet at you to kill you. Every player leveling is naked.People start playing like cowards after hitting 60 and getting gear. They won't venture out in the open with their gear on. If they need to go to a raid, they can just get summoned. This isn't much different from the world buff meta.
>>582994781Kaise said my name on stream after gifting her 5000 gold KEKINSANE PepeClap
>>582994781Some people have this thing called "disposable income"
>>582994821>>582994824What the actual fuck can you buy at lvl 20 that you couldn't just grind two hours for, for free?
>>582994851same but im going to buy the 3month sub and then never come back. like i always do
>>582994892I look like this
>>582989297>gore from cute to ugly to cute to ugly to cute to ugly to finally settling on "cute for her age"Explain this
>>582994892There's no way she's actually letting the roach hit, right? There's NO WAY she's actually gone down on him, right?
>>582994895Some goyim are more easily tricked than others.
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/s/zOFFZl07IFReddit is not happy about Spriest.
>>582994909bop patterns, high level enchants, consumes, leveling multiple proffessions, etc
I'm gonna be comfy collecting my dreamfoil and thorium unmolested on my PvE server.
>>582994989There isn't many things she wouldn't do for money. Of course she has.
>>582995032>paying 15$ a month to roleplay as a chink botgrim
good morning saar here new animation best in dubai animation school saar very quality please more work saar this no need for imbursement saar this work come when you redeem me artist resume in blizzard working place saaar
>>582994989being naive isnt cute after your 20s
>>582992750>and up to ShadowlandsWhy do you niggers just lie about shit? Berserking got nerfed after MoP and troll hasn't been the top dog pve pick in forever since most retail CDs don't line up with it's 3min CD.https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Berserking
>>582995032sorry i already got to all of the nodes right before you did and you can't kill me or do anything about it
>>582995145couldn't kill you if you were horde either
>>582994872>>582994597>*crickets*
>>582994435Lineage 2... home...
>asmongold turned on the stream and said if blizzard bans streamers getting gifts he is going to put wow forever in a room with an oxygen tank and give it cigarettes and waitwell, how is blizzard going to respond to that threat?
>>582994839I would eat her out like I was a prisoner being given his last meal
>>582994435>swordsinger>dragonslayer>nightmare setthis is a buffbot
>>582995328#real
will wow forever fix my depression
light work for a hunterchud such as myself
wow forever official launch will be FULL of bots farming gold and then selling. this slop will never ever be different.
>>582995371It's probably destro subclass
>>582995272>Hunter village theme>Dion Theme
>>582995459it'll worsen it
>>582995463zopilote implies the spanish exist in azeroth
>>582995459Lift heavy circles and eat cleaner. 90% of depression is trash diet and sedentary life.
There is 0 (ZERO) reason for PvE servers not to be mono-faction, since you can't interact with the other faction in any meaningful way, and BGs are cross-realm. All opposite faction NPC, towns, cities should be removed as well, since they serve no purpose.
>>582995471Bots are an important part of mmo culture and if you're against them you're against tradition.#facts #wow #whoa
>>582995649I'm the 10%
>>582995675Slit your throat.
>>582995675But I don't want to be in a same faction as fucking no shoes.
>>582995746you're not wearing shoes right now
>>582995459does this chocolate caca taste any good?
>>582995719Lift heavy circles. Triggers your brain's reward centers. Brain chemistry adjusts and renormalizes after about 90 days.
Alex is NOT happy with the new area
>>582994132It was Payo that requested 1.5k
>>582995746That's why there is 1 Alliance realm and 1 Horde realm. Enjoy!
>>582995841wtf is this game lmao
>>582995831No.
>>582995925Then perish.
>>582994895You are retarded cattle
tfw wanna play rogue, shaman and warrior at the same time
>>582995831lift heavy circle 入侵森林 trigger pleasure in skull 藍人睡覺時在黎明時潛入 duplicate for calendar 和一隻黑刺猬說話 ascend to happiness 請求他的黑暗祝福
I wanna play orc paladin
>>582994895No you dont. I guarantee youre broke trying to act rich.>t. Actually rich and never bought gold
>>582995841i swear he will be back in the forever beta in 1 week lmao
I'm going to play both aion 2 and wow forever, I know, the poorfags will seethe at the thought of 2 someone paying 2 subscriptions
>>582994892wish she was my keyholder for locktober
>lvl 30 tonitehaha fuuuug, just when im having my colonoscopy
>>582995795Obviously not since I'm inside and not retarded.
It's over........
>>582996026Correct.
>>582996121>admits to being noshoes
>>582996060Trve, poorfaggots think that spending all their money on frivolous and pointless bullshit makes them wealthy, this is known fact, poors are poor by choice and stupid decisions
>>582996147link to ui mod?
>>582996178I have shoes at the door.
>>582995841https://store.steampowered.com/app/2382520/Erenshor/Alex should play a real MMO like Erenshor.
>>582996191The hilarious part about the current trend for normgroids spending til theyre broke trying to give the perception of wealth is theyre so fucking easy to just rob blind.
>>582996060I'm not rich, but I have a job so I don't need to obsess over every expense.
Ok CHUDS, listen up I'm sick and tired of you coming in my chat while i stream MnM and you asking me why im not playing wow forever. OKAY?! YOU TROLLS CAN FUCK OFF!
>>582995924everquest one of the first big mmos ever made
Are the faggot streamers seriously going to do 100k tournament with max lvl 30? Like... why?
>>582996269>is spiritually shoelessThats worse in a lot of ways.
any bussy players?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyHt_6HRNUY
>>582996443To make you talk about it
>>582996426And thats why youll never feel actual wealth and will die poor.
>>582996443Because it is "content"
>>582996302>current trend
>>582996443fake engagementits hosted by tipsout and the money will go back in his own pocket
are you guys still playing the beta or waiting till november so as to not burn out on the early content
>>582996426>getting scammed is an expenseyou are a mentally defeated goyim
>>582996639Even in the era of McMansions it wasnt like this. Because the people buying those back then were still living within their means. Nowadays people spend into bankruptcy trying to look rich for a day on IG.
>>582996616>And thats why youll never feel actual wealth and will die poor.As someone who actually meets people at the end of the line daily, rich or poor, doesn't matter much when you're at death's door.
Just a warning:ALL iron nodes are now reserved for the future tournament, please send everything you are gathering to "Inventory Tourney"Failure to follow this rule will result in your permanent blacklist from ALL major guilds and raids at release.
>>582996786Still playing. Primarily to test the new profession flow. Mining got skill level adjustments to remove the fucking MOUNTAIN you gotta climb to get to Iron and I imagine itll do the same for the transitions to mithril and thorium.Blacksmithing is actually worth while levelling now because if you keep it current you can craft actual upgrades and not just 99% vendor trash.
>>582996443>Like... why?
>>582996428https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual/clip/EagerClearPizzaOSfrog-Zjxa1Nvg-m9ZxGh6?range=7d
Alex is NOT happy with Monsters & Memories......we may be back........
I did not care for the class changes.
fags here have to manage burnout because the game is actually dogshit KEK
>>582996786not playing the beta at all because i value the true fresh more than solving everything i'm going to do before i can do it
>>582996786>are you guys still playing the beta or waiting till november so as to not burn out on the early contentHaven't played for a few days, waiting for lvl increase. Will play that for a week or two, then wait for release.
Pally bros? Y'all got your wolfsbane? I'm at the gem quest and i cant do it solo
the one retard that keeps spamming his streamer all day is 10x worse than any of the troons in /xivg/
>>582989297Honestly not bad at all.I have seen a whole lot worse aging
>>582995119I can't believe that they didn't even think about using the classic models in classic fucking plus.The fact that the streamers had to tell them to do it is nuts.Even then they didn't even do it right.
>>582996919The master flip flopper 180 king. BPD is a hell of a drug.
>>582996973>playing retnot when i can play prot can solo 5 mobs my level at once
>>582996951Tell us you play a warrior without telling us you play a warrior
Asmongold should be made into a raidboss with 50k ads you have to defeat to even get to him
>>582996892>Blacksmithing is actually worth while levelling now because if you keep it current you can craft actual upgrades and not just 99% vendor trash.oh thats nice, I always enjoyed leveling my professions alongside my character and using the gear when I could
>>582997103What is it that makes Asian women look so soft? Is it the rice diet?
>>582997098He might be a druid that's unironically sad powershifting is gone
>>582997094Unironically?
>>582997205they dont workout. Thin plus soft = no exercise
>>582997103>a raidboss with 50k ads you have to defeat to even get to himhonestly carving through an army of trash to get the boss sounds pretty cool
asmongold should go harder on the political racewar inflammatory shit to show everyone how spineless blizzard truly is
>>582997103>Boss itself is trivial>The difficulty comes from the seemingly never ending swarm you have to get past to get to himKino...
>>582997205Don't exercise much outside of the fact you have to walk to go everywhere in their country, but also eat fairly well
>>582997287asmongoloid is a grifter
>>582997271YEEES JUST LIKE IN MY AVENGERS KINORINO PLZ BLIZ MAKE IT HABEN
>>582997205Filters on top of makeup and other such beauty products.
>>582997287Instead he unironically defends the streamers who bought gold.
>>582997271>>582997291Also the boss does more damage if in an AoE because stand in the fire = dps higher
>>582989557Broken draenei on their way with no connection to eredar, say goodbye to goat ladies.
>>582997218>sad powershifting is goneNo such thing
>>582997103i look like this
>>582997326no shit and i want him to take a maggot infested dump on blizzard hq until they either nut up and give streamers the same rules as everyone else or buckle under the pressure and let everything go
>>582997469you wish
>>582997469looking good champ
>>582997489lol asmon will never he gets RMTd gold from his viewers hes gonna defend other streamers
>>582992282I play both troll and tauren and I wouldn’t play ogreThose fat fucks have zero appeal to me
>>582997453You'd be amazed how many druids defend it for the same reason they defended the John Madden. They never want to stop pushing buttons
>>582989728In his skyborne video he kept implying that he can talk shit because he did the skyborne zone, but he kept asserting that none of it makes sense, even though it tells you everything within the zone.
Do I install it now or will I have to install new version in 3 days?
>>582997205>softYou mean soft skin? It's filters and skin lightening, asians put black women to shame with their artificial appearance
>>582997417that's good, he's proving blizzard are convictionless pussies
>>582997103mmm i rape her goodly
>>582992282>Only Tauren and Troll players would play ogres.as a troll and tauren player you are correct
>>582989994Gdkp would be ok in a vacuum of no RMT, and where the playerbase was still 99% white.
>>582997440>they refuse to add playable ogres but will definitely add even uglier mutantslol
>>582997532And there's crackheads that eat trash and pieces of glassThere's lots of insane people who have insane views in the world
>>582997587by siding with the people that are perpetuating RMT?????
>>582997643Even then White passing isn't enough because of "white" mutts and their jewish overlords.
>>582997361I mean she is using filters in that video but when I was in japan most women I saw just any place was usually quite pretty.
Is the barber going to stay like this in the full game? Without restrictions or a price. Shouldn't it at least be a gold sink
>>582997583>You mean soft skin?Just generally soft, squishy, supple. They have a certain quality to them that women of no other race have. Not a massive yellow fever fag or anything, just something I've noticed.
>>582997731Exactly. Pussy ass nigga Blizzard doesn't dare to do anything when streamers are in their own hugbox.
There is no reason to play pvp ruleset unless you are a no-life degenerate neet that does nothing all day but play.>80% of all wpvp encounters are always one sided, one guy getting stomped other guy having an easy kill. >rarely it is a challenging fight thats fair or fun for either party>in contrast on pve if you want pvp, you queu a bg and get a fair organised fight>wasting your game time dealing with people camping a quest or griefing an NPC or camping a dungeon entrance
/console shadowNumCascades 4/console ResampleAlwaysSharpen 1/console groundEffectDensity 96/console weatherdensity 3Use em
>>582997873+1 pve cvck essay
you do have your SFK , BFD and stocks bis in your bags ready to equip once you turn in your 40 quests, right anon?
>>582997731what do you not understand? blizzard are the ones perpetuating rmt, streamers getting away with it makes people hate blizzard more and more. the more people hate blizzard the more likely (even if slighly) it is blizzard will have to actually nut up and care about their products again
>>582997873I'm making my horde characters on pvp.Alliance are spineless and will run away watching a 1v1.
>>582997658Alliance has enough pretty races now, Horde didnt.
>>582997783there's already a ton of gold sinks leave me alone and let me change my hair style for free you stupid gold buyer
>>582998032>1v1It's rose tinted goggles, if you really try and remember hard, you'd find you barely ever had a fair 1v1 in the open world. It always evolves into other people jumping in and outnumbering someone, or one guy was low hp or had mobs on him or was outgeared or out leveled.
>horde gets wolfsbane>giga op 2h swordwhat does alliance get
>>582997873i always winits very fun for mepve servers are filled with very awful players so you cant even play pve on a pve servers since the people are too bad to clear the content without wiping 5 times in a dungeonyou are literally ruining the game for yourself by rolling on a pve server
>>582998154Post your parses from the latest version you played. Seriously. With proof that it's your character not some randos you found. I guarantee you, you are bad at the game. I'd bet 100 bucks on it.
>>582997993make sure to bring this up a month from now when we are stuck in the queue for the release
Ogre: Would play if we get a two headed verson for castersFurbolg: Might play but it wouldnt be my first choiceNaga: Would play the malesBroken Draenei: Would not playSatyr: Probably would not play but the girls would be nice to look atQuillboar: Actually would play, I always liked them for some reasonMurlocs: Would not play
So 3 weeks of lvl30
>>582998149dalaran
>>582997873Trvke, PvP ruleset is a waste of time and pure baitYou're not going to have thrilling 1v1s between 2 evenly matched players, you're gonna get ganked by twinks, level 60 and outnumbered and maybe corpsecamped for good measureGo PvE
are you guys prepped for the cap raise in a few hours?
>>582998336thats it lol
If you're not playing on a pvp server you're not really playing world of WARcraft.t. rogue/hunter
>>582998349>bised out 5 characters at 20 in a week>24 days left of level 30>best craftable blues stop at level 25 on the currency vendor
>>582997873>>582998346why do you soft cvcks always do this shit? go pve no need to scream why you're totally not a pussy
horde not being allowed in dalaran is pretty racist and transphobic
Is warrior a beginner friendly class to play for pvp?
>>582998502No, it's for advanced White male straight gamers ONLY.
I will play on the ruleset which abuses me the most. So that's easy PvP pick
>>582998474Post character
>>582998502Can you sit in a root and die without punching a hole in your drywall?
>>582998349uhh you do know they are reseting the server for the patch right?
>>582998135This is true, but even if alliance out number horde they still run away.I can't remember how many times playing pvp a horde would jump me and 2 alliance players would run away and wouldn't fight back.But when I play horde and a alliance jumps me 3 horde players will just pop out of nowhere to help me.no shoes have a better community than alliance could ever dream.
>>582998502it's beginner friendly in the sense that you never have to worry about winning a fight because you simply can't
>>582998349Yeah, I'm just going to buy max level character with everything unlocked, because I'm not poor like you
>>582997976i tried this and i got turned into a sissyfaggot then my account got hackeddont use
>>582998349Why do you people do this? Why do you want to rush the leveling process? Is it so you can get back to not playing the game as soon as possible?
>>582998349why bother with all of this shit lolthe point is to level to 30 slowly so you can experience more shit in the world the fuck are you gonna do when you hit 30?
>>582998584>>582998603Didn't a warrior win some big duel tournament in era?
>>582998349Of course I am
>>582998489don't you just need to do a questline?
What specs you guys running and what FPS you getting at cities and outside?
Yes I maxed my Alchemy to 300 and had a legion of hunters farm my Major Fire/Frost/Shadow Resistance Potion recipes so I can win the 100k duel tournamentGood luck burning through +8000 resistance shield, chud. You did role a melee class or hunter didn't you?
>>582998626sit back, get some hot tea and slow level
How bad was the wand nerf for locks and mages for leveling?
>>582998626>>582998648so I can gank lowbies, duh
>>582998706ret - 35 FPS (which is more than enough)
>>582998774did either of them ever really need the wand that badly? always felt like it was just for cherry tapping the last health of a mob, especially on lock
>>582998664>>582998349Imagine being THIS Retarded on a beta holy on god
>>582998349no i'm actually starting from 1 again so i can minmax my route for launch
>>5829987061070, i7-4790, linux, graphics level 3 with max view distance, getting 60fps in org
>>582998149isn't that only for undead cuckadins?
>>582998543ok guess im maining warrior instead of warlock then
>vacation starts tomorrow>gonna slowly comfy level to 30feels good
>Kirin Tor is allied with Kingdom of Stormwind>decide to abandon it and teleport whole city to Northrend>allow enemies (orcs, trolls...) insideWizards are retarded. I wish Blizzard had good writers and designers.If anything it's THERAMORE that should be neutral, since Jaina and Thrall and BFF/
>>582998918yeah it 2-4 shots lvl 25 elites thoughalliance has nothing
>>582998893A minmaxed route to 30 should put most people thoroughly ahead of the curve at launch
>>582998706everything maxed, infront of the lorderon dungeon 70, any non city zone over 200
>>582998852I thought for a warlock is was send in void walker, 1-2 dots, then wand? But with the wand nerf its probably always 2 dots now meaning you will run out of mana faster? I'm actually new to the class
this is a weird talent. seems made for tanking but then they got nothing else.
Tom Ellis status?
>>582999047you dot them all and mana tap and drain life, warlock is dancing with hp and mp bars all the time
>>582998603If you charge first you get some chances. So the winning strategy as warrior is always charge first. Ah, the class fantasy... Sublime.
>>582999086promoted with double the pay
>>582998964wotlk nu-lore has nothing to do with forever
>>582999054Maybe stop looking at everything through the endgame whack a boss for 3 minutes lens
>>5829987063080 ti and after the D4 debacle I hardcapped at 60 fps for Blizzard games. I get 60 in wowf and it never drops below 60 unless theres a memory leak.
>>582999179Minigames are called minigames for a reason
>>582999179they don't care about anything else. no arena.
where are you planning to level?for me?>duskwood>ashenvale>run scarlet monastery parts>gnomer farm endgame 30 content for the rest of the patch >poke into stv more and desolace when im done to see whats ahead
>>582998947>>gonna slowly comfy level to 30But why? Reset happens in 2 weeks anyways
>>582999054the first part is for raids and dungeons, the second part is for questing and pvp
never played a roguetried it during uh shadowlands? ithink? that felt kinda coolhows energy recharge rate at lvl 10+?is rogue fun? whats the pve/leveling spec?
>>582999257so whats the point of reaching 30 in the first place? and I will easily reach level 30 in under a week anyway, even when taking it slow and comfy, while looking for new quests.
>>58299905450% mana regen is a big deal if it doesn't fall behind without stacking spirit at high levels
>>582997873>playing pvp for fair fights and 1v1'sinsane behaviour honestlytheres 10 gazillion games on steam where you can play "fair pvp"mmo's are not fair, thats the entire appeal
I'm not fond of Alliance no more.
>>582998032I don't run, but I watch 1v1s knowing I could help but won't. Then I kill the attacker only after they beat the other guy
>>582999054we have weakaura to flag improved stormstrike havers and you get kicked + blacklisted
>>582999124nice charge, would be a shame if someone rooted you then sat in your charge deadzone while dotting you down
>>582998893Upon release, I am slowly leveling through each zone, raising all of my professions to my level. I will make gear for myself and make weapons for others. I will make camps near fairly popular questing zones as well. For instance, a camp at Raven's Hill, or a camp outside dungeons at the meeting stones.
He's right you know.
>>582999353Why not stop here wait for release and have everything updated to 60 they're gonna rework 1-30 anyways
>>582999383I thought combat addons like WA is banned?
>>582999302>hows energy recharge rate at lvl 10+?its the same throughout the same.
>>582998964Xir, this is Forever thread.
>>582999054The talent to look at when talking about Shaman tanking is Spirit Weapon and how Rockbiter works with it. That's the talent that makes no sense without shaman tank.
>>582999437this but unironically
>>582999479so warrior bad? or manageable
>>582999302starts kinda weak and squishy, but has a lot of tools to help in combat as he levels, late game can be near top dps and quite fun to play, no idea for spec in forever, best guess is just to use whatever rogue discord recommends if clueless
>>582999412An even better fix is staying on retail
>>582999391this , but when hardcore releases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boj-PH6F_QI
Did Blizzard officially say that world buffs don't work in raids or was it just a popular streamer that said so?
OH GOD BROS THE german VOICE OF FEMBORN IS SO CUUUUUUUTE
>>582998626The fuck else was i gonna do on that character? Turn in quests for no xp and barely any loot?
Weapon spec racials feels heavily favored towards casters. Why does it not count white hits? What use does 2% crit for wearing a sword do for my rogue when over 50% of my damage is auto attacks? But on a mage, every single fucking spell hit has a chance to crit 2% higher? That's insane
Bros, should I buy the blue elfs? I dont see the reason when you can play all the other classes anyways and they dont have anything beneficial. Or am I missing something?
>>582998664>do this>get to 30 extremely fast>create a new character
>>582999412i hate retoilets
>>582994435this game looks cool, i should play it.......
>horde character creation on the pvp ruleset blocked almost pemanently>alliance winning wpvp everywhere>they fucking own the WC and SFK entrances on every layer>try to find wtf is happening>apparently it's because all the streamer simps are playing horde and farming gold and shit for their favorite talking head for the cancer duel tournamentI fucking hate this game, I really do
>>582999578popular streamer said it
>>582999528hmmmmm i'll give it a try then
>>582999503what do you mean? its flat 10 energy a second, its not even the same as rage i thought you played the game
>>582999619They were made for retoilet faggots who play horde but don't want to play any of the actual horde races. That is literally the only reason they exist.
>>582999619my futa femtauren druid will only rape and findom blue elves exclusively
>>582999701i said i tested rogue in sl
>>582999437so if they are going to rework 1-30 anyway, that means I will have a different experience in november. sounds great.
>>582999586Female skyborne sounds great in general
>>582999412>not everyone wants to spend 50 minutes spamming LFG>you should waste 50 minutes spamming LFG for me so I can get my lootiesyea no. if i'm tardwrangling, i'm reserving an item
>>582999412People's posts have already started sounding like chatgpt responses.
>>582999302>hows energy recharge rate at lvl 10+?The same. I simply don't see rogue having enough energy to do half the things he needs to do any DPS
>>582999762:3
>>582999675be sure to max your first aid and don't neglect poisons and food
>>582989853agreedexcept they are not going to do anything about rmt
>>582999619They're a girlfriend/china race. They exist for girlfriends, the chinese, and ESPECIALLY chinese girlfriends.If any of the above apply, get your boyfriend to buy them for you.
>>582999586For me it's german femgnome.
>>582999668He said S15 was bussin btw
>>582999619The only reason to buy anything is for beta access or if you like what they look like. Name reservations are meaningless with two names. Skelf racials suck so I think Blizzard will buff them, and if they buff them enough, they might be worth getting. But I wouldn't buy them until that happens.
>>582999836god damnit i hate first aid so much>>582999817dangit
how to dungeon as a dps>open lfg >spam refresh and look for the tank and healing icon>be the first to invite them to your partydont bother whispering groups
>>582992282In a world of beauty we need more fat ugly bastards
>>582999708>>582999709>>582999847Yeah I dont really see the appeal. I dont care about transmorg, and the only bear mount I really want is the one you get for killing all of the opposite faction leaders. But I think that was only in WoTlk sadly
>>582999708>calling wanting not-BE retoilet when the Horde has been 70% pretty elves for TWENTY FUCKING YEARSPeople who pick the contrarian option of the ugly monster races have been the minority since fucking 2006
>>582990627yep, incredibly gay and retarded too
anyone opted in for the beta without paying and actually got an invite?
>>582999586What class would be best fitting for female skelf?
>>582999054They are dancing with shaman tanks, and there is a chance they could end up doing class quests in the future to allow it.
>>582992282Not EVEN Tauren and Troll players would actually play Ogres. Nobody wants to play ogres.
>>582999993I bought the key from some australoid for 10 EUR during the mcdonalds campaign if that counts
>>582999586>>582999762>kinda like skyborne>but I like to play males>the male skyborn sounds fine>except when he's hit and sounds like the most effeminate retard>tfw
>>582999965I don't give a fuck. They ruined the horde in TBC and they're ruining it now from day 1.
>>582999619If you like their lore, then go ahead. Although, their lore is all within Zephras, so you have to probably watch a lore video for them to decide.
>>582999412>upvotedGO BACK
>>583000027Give us the April fools two-headed ogre played by 2 players, but for real, and I absolutely would
>>582998772I can hear this webm
>>582999412If you take the time to form a raid and lead it you deserve to hard reserve an item
>>583000079yeah malenelfs are bad
>>583000027I do. Not even larping. Ogre mage is pretty cool.
I hate women so much.
>>583000027I want to play an OgreBut we're not going to get anything more than $30 barebones texture swapsNothing is going to come from the class polls either
>>583000081horde was ruined from the getgo with the forsaken, they killed the whole shamanistic anprim vibe they had in W3 with their retarded plague and green slime
>>583000104That's actually cool idea. Unlike ogres. Cho'Gall is pretty fun in HoTS.
>>583000027I wouldnt play normal ogre, but I would play the fuck out of a two headed ogre mage or warlock
>the thread is this active at 6amwe're so back
>>582989557Their recon is the moment you can pinpoint the lore went down hill
>>582998893>hes not using an addon that tells you exactly what to do and where to do it
I really hope they don't keep this retarded faction lock on pvp server bullshit. I want to pvp as both factions. I had the option to roll on a new server before and in later expansions they took it away, so why the fuck is it back when we only have ONE pvp server?
>>582999391Sovl.../wpsg/ and /wowcg/ minmaxxing trannies could never
>>583000196
>>583000187>>583000175>>583000027>>583000156Wait, I just realised. When people call for ogres, they wanna play a normal single headed ogre?? What the fuck is the appeal then? They should atleast add a two-headed option. But it will prolly never happens cause of MUH IN GAME MODELS
>>583000142
>>583000081Of course you dont, but as 20 years of metrics shows there's numerically barely any of you guys actually out there compared to the rest of the playerbase so eat a dick, you're outvoted like 5 to 1 on this one
https://x.com/payowow/status/2105611045893255296UH OH PAYO GOT BANNED
>>583000196the warrior buffs healed wowfg
>>583000241It makes sense though as you could easily spy on enemy faction and boost PvP shit for your friends
>>582999412so does this idiot not understand he can just not join the HR groupwhy even complain about that
wow fogever - the same game yet again for the third time edition(tm) bros, I don't feel so good....
>>583000230>he thinks the addon is optimal and the route wont be heavily contested
Today...CHUDMALE TANKCHUD.CONFIRMED.SOD- POSTERS WILL BE KILLED EN MASE.WOW FOREVER WILL WON.
>>583000307Well WoW has Body Type #1 and Body Type #2 now instead of males and females, right?Give Body Type #1 one head and Body Type #2 two heads.
>>583000327You get almost no honor outside of BGs so it offers no tangible advantage beyond easier griefing which you know, you can just as easily do with a spy in your discord that reports to you
>>583000386aion 2 will last as long as where winds meet did
>>583000079Blood elf males are so fucking CHAD but blue ones are really faggy
>>583000314my little piece of shitto.. is going to hawaii..
>>583000196Im on my lunch breakt atm
>>583000487Just make them BE skin color, unless you mean the BE male voice which admittedly is surprisingly manly for a dude with that frame
>>583000314BASED BASED BASED he was so annoying I'm glad
>>583000595Yeah the voice, always was a fan of blood elf pally for the manly voice
>>583000008>>582999054>>582999492Chudmale tank is confirmed lmao.Why do you think they didn't chat about enh shamana???
>>582999587Yes, you dumbass. What else? Do you actually do quests for the rewards? I'm not being ironic or trying to be retarded, I'm genuinely confused by the way you seem to play the game.
ok rogue already is sick as you can just stealth past mobs i otherwised died to on another character
>>582999587>"I have to quest in an MMO?"
>>583000241You're supposed to pay for a second account. It will even give you legacy points. https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24307383/get-to-know-the-world-of-warcraft-forever-legacy-system>These points are Battle.net account-wide and available to all your non-Hardcore characters.
>>582991952wow, that sounds insanely gay
Any UI addon that overhauls Combo Points?I hate the very pixelated icons
>>582988914gay sex with male orcs!
>>583000314>"suspended">streaming beta right nowExcuse me?
>all the faggot rmt streamers are hordeb-but hordebros told me alliance was the streamer faction....
>>583000743new account
>>583000753aaahahahah
>>583000314WTF THIS IS NOT PPC MY LITTLE MAN
>>583000787I thought getting banned on one account meant you can't circumvent that with an alt account
>>583000656>Do you actually do quests for the rewards?Yeah obviously but most rewards early level are kinda bad, the real benefit is the xp you get from it.in that instance you might as well hoard it until the cap increase if the item rewards are all shit you're gonna vendor anyway
Daily Alexensual News: After refusing to socialize with other players in the MMORPG that requires you to talk to other people and form groups, Alex is officially announcing his return to WoW Forever.
>>583000753>>583000795asssshartfaggotgold made every stream reroll to horde
What a surprise, bans/suspensions barely affect streamers lol
>>583000703Do you know what account-wide means? How would you have access to the points from one account if you're logged in on another?
>>583000787>ban him again>he buys another access >???>infinite money glitch
>>583000690Baby really associates MMO with questing. The most grim timeline.
>>583000849if he gets ID banned sure
>>583000787>>583000743Holy shit this is vile. Behead all e-celeb niggers.
>>583000901Please don't I'm trying not to jerk off and I have agp
>>583000849you could always just make a new account and buy a new sub, they never ban for evasion
>>583000878>makes every bluesky troon, plebbitor and streamerbrown reroll hordethe man actually saved the alliance, wtf I love asmongoloid now
>>583000873God just reading his name makes my cock hard
>>583000680What the fuck is this post
he is apologizing on stream rn
>>582994879in TBC arms warriors weren't the best DPS but they provided good enough debuffs to be brought to group content, they should lean more into that directionas it stands we don't even have enough rage to sunder armor
>>583000325As a clothy it makes me happy that warriors and hunters will be very popular
>>583000987wdym
>>583000000
>>583000901giwtwm
>>583000891they're linked accounts on the same bnet, it 100% confirmed works this way
>>583000864Fucking insane behavior.>the real benefit is the xp you get from itNo, the real benefit is the fun you have while questing.
>>583000987ESL nonsense
Now ban Ziqo
>>583000936Careful you sound mad
>>583000919>Baby really associates MMO with questing.>MMO>questing>"lmao you associate those two you baby?"
>>583001018https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YiuwpRost6Y
>>583001018>love the content love the bankek
Should rogues always use daggers?Whats the use case for sword/axe
>>583001057I've done the westfall/redridge/duskwood chain more times than I can count, at this point it's about gearing and leveling up until my class actually has a fun kit.
>>583001067ziqo's too brown to be banned
>>583001030
>>583001054Are you talking about subscriptions or separate accounts?
>>583001067They should only ban him once he played a bit more so he wasted time again. WOuld be kino.
>>583001030/wpsg/ in shambles
>>583001018hes melting
>>583000304Do you have a loicense, mohamed, for being on 4chan?>>583000331>>583000406Europoors, lmao.
>>583001120>Whats the use case
Are EU wow streamers always some romani/gypsy or mudslime?
>>583001120Is Mutilate still daggers-only? Serious question because if not thats huge
>>583001205ESL jeet
>>583001243You sure you want to go there?
>>583001154The game is the quests, the world, the exploration. If you don't enjoy the quests, you should just stop playing the game. Why pay $15 a month for something you literally don't enjoy? You might as well pay me five bucks to kick you in the groin every week.
>>583001169you can link a wow account to an existing bnet account. they will be under the same bnet but each will require a separate subscription.
>>583001018>"retard">"retard">"only hate watchers here">"you are giving me ad revenue you retard">"i will be more famous because of this"holy meltdown lmfaoo
>>583000314>get banned>still able to stream I don’t get it
>>583001243You could call anyone from EU a non, and you would be correct 85% of the time. Europoors have been an invaded and conquered people for so long now that it's kinda sad. Every single one of them seethes against Americans, and it's so funny to me. American supremacy will always win, just by existing.
>>583000849It depends on the ban. Sometimes people in the high profile World First guilds would get banned for boosting/RMT related activities in the middle of a World First race and they'd have a couple days to make a new account and level/gear new characters to catch up and continue playing and it'd be completely sanctioned by Blizzard
>>583001301>lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes..
>>583001243We have the whitest streamer (English)
Guys, he isn't coming.
staysafe was right and based all along
>>583000987sounds like a zoomie liveblogging their first experience of playing rogue
>>583001302go play assassin's creed
>>583001342they dont stop you playing other accounts, only accounts get banned, you are allowed to buy another
>>583001243>americans once again not realizing they're immigrant themselves
>>583001301>the whitest alliance player
>>583001312Right, so it's one account, two subscriptions. Not two accounts. There is no such thing as a WoW account anymore, hasn't been for years.
>>583001249Even if it isn't they'd lower the damage to make it equivalent between weapon types like they did with Hemorrhage and Sinister Strike.
>>583001348I can feel the seething projection in this post, lol.
>>583001314>no lies detected
>>583001302No the game is the fucking community retard, thats why the MM is in the name. Otherwise it might as well be like SWOTR where it's effectively an always-online single-player rpg
>>583001243HOLLABALLAS
>>583001447>go to buy beta>which account do you want to apply this too>lists 3 wow accounts on the same battle net
>>583001018This dude is insufferable. How does anyone like him?
>>583001391bro hes playing evercold
>>583001391It's the big guy himself.Did he escape j'lords gay cage?
>>583001392i wish he would play it just to see him get made fun of more. that was a fun month
>>583001409Why would I play an inferior game that I'm not interested in?>>583001487Agreed. It's the community with whom you quest and interact with. Leveling up is a means to an end. You level up and gear up only to do more quests with other people.
>>583000314>>583000542>>583000314>>583000824>>583000612Imagine falling for that fat retarded subhumans bait so easily.
>>583001541Hes a swarthy, corrupt goblintoid that appeals to other swarthy corrupt goblintoids.
>>583001447pedantic. I admit, maybe my terminology was incorrect. none of that matters; the point is two separate subscriptions share legacy points.
>payo said he was banned yesterday>the brown ziqo not banned
>>583001579He could get ganked 24/7 and it would be hilarious.
>>583001302Warriors can't enjoy anything before getting the whirlwind ability because your only always-available instant attacks are fucking hamstring and rend. If anything bring miserable for a giant chunk of the leveling experience is part of being a warrior, so that the payoff of big damage at 60 is so much sweeter
>seething poorfags get streamer banned>he (millionaire) just makes another accountsisters.. not like this..
>>582999412He absolutely is right.I'm ngl, I didn't play any vanilla or classic variation of the game for long and I've never touched retail, but when the Classic server first came out, I did get a char to raiding level and I did a few Zul'Gurub runs and I never got anything. Not a single purple. After that I just lost interest in the game. Raids felt like worse 5 man dungeons to me. 5 man dungeons are based, I've always liked them more than raids. Raids are a cluster fuck. They're like mass PvP which I also find to be garbage in ANY game, not just WoW. Smaller scale stuff is better.I felt like just a number in raids, I got no loot because I'm rolling vs so many other players so my chances are far less likely to get the item and the whole thing was boring.I can't fathom why people like raiding.
blaming streamers is like blaming drug dealers for the drug epidemic
>>583001480mrsh, why are you coping little subhuman eurotrash non?
/wowstreamerg/
>>583001686millionaire - $60
>>582988990>just play this completely different style of game and genre insteadwhy do retards always spout this for any rpg that has pvp
BAN ZIQOJUSTICE FOR PAYO
I really like to brush my teeth twice a day, complete with flossing and rinsing with mouthwash.Race/Class for this feel?
>>583001692there's a reason they're gonna focus on 10-20 mansso everyone gets a chance
>>583001018Blizzard needs to ban him again
>>583001776gnome rogue
>my streamer are hot female redheadsI love being european
>>583001583So do you just quit playing when you run out of quests or do you, you know, start raiding for the actually GOOD gear
>bait reddit for exposure by saying you want your viewers to buy you gold>get banned on your main account and get more exposure from reddit talking about it>back streaming within an hour to capitalize on exposure with double your audience>content for the next few weeks trying to get everything in place for tournamentI kneel
>>583001529You can't buy beta access, unless you mean the Australian McDonald's promotion.You pay for the Skyborne. You're given beta access for free on the side.
>>583001692personal loot isnt even in retail anymore cause guilds hated it cause bad people would get loot and be forced to hand it over (it was still tradeable)
>>583001702>t.
>>583001776human (female) paladin
How many gay centaurs have been found in beta so far?
>>583001776human or gnome priest
>>583001825link. link. link. link.
>>583001841No, I level a new character. And a new one after that. And a new one after that.Or I just wander around the world.Raiding is a secondary activity, a timesink to keep the mongoloids subscribed. Like PvP. Gear is pointless unless it makes questing easier.
funny thing is half this thread is brown yet larps as the biggest racist lmao
>>583001873But then it's not actually personal...
>>583001852everyone here wishes they could be payo but they aren't good enough, funny enough, or charming enough
>>583001885zero fag npcs except the ones dragonflight devs added to the original "classic" in 2022zero vantablack skin tone npcs outside of the zephyr isle
Wait I turned into Payo and did I actually understand it correctly that he said he sucked cock yesterday? I'm not memeing he showed some pills against throat pain and made some innuendo how he tried "it" yesterday and liked it.Now it could also that I misunderstand becuase it's hard even listening to him
>>583002014Why can I not be brown and racist?
>>583001852>be retarded subhuman who does subhuman things like RMT>get away with it for so long you start bragging about it>get banned>people take a look before moving on with their dayDamn bros... he truly played usStill waiting more bans
>>583002042Fucking lmao?
>>583002039dont worry anon, you havent even gotten to any new zones/quests made by KatieDev yet :3
>>583001859You buy Skyborne for 30 dollars. You buy guaranteed beta for 60, and get Skyborne on the side.
I thought the release date was the 4th of this month.
>>583002023it was personal since each person got a chance at their own loot, guilds just forced players to trade it over to other peopleyou could always refuse
>>583001985OK so you actually dont understand why a lot of people play WoW and live in your own little world
>>583002149you will never be a yotsuba
>>583002042he's bisexual and he's fucked more women than anyone here combined but he also gets to pound savix's cute asian ass
>>583002083that's like saying why is a pile of shit still smelling like a pile of shit
>>583002042he took a suppository in his ass yesterday to help heal his voice from streaming 12 hours a day for weeks straight. i also did not know this exists but canada is a magical place
>>583002149
>>583002014But browns ARE the biggest racists. They are, at minimum, 3x more racist than me
>>583002154NTA but what he is describing is like 80% of the playerbase of wow.
WWARRIORBROSHOW ARE THE CHANCES WERE GETTING GOOD RAGE IN A COUPLE OF HOURS
>>582999412>wants everyone else to do the work for him and expects to just show up and get loot
>>583002149i wish. this is about to be the longest month in history
>>583002151THEN IT'S NOT PERSONAL, IT'S GROUP LOOT WITH EXTRA STEPS>>583002276Yeah the casuals maybe. They can go to retail and get "immersed" in the story because at least retail cares about its story even if it's an absolutely shit one
>>583002154Of course I live in my own little world. I also don't understand how most people can even live the lives they do without either going utterly insane or killing themselves. I've personally been able to just barely cling on to any shred of motivation to keep going.But I also think that if anyone actually plays WoW to raid or to PvP, they must be literal mouthbreathers. There is no way in Hell that anyone who actively raids has an IQ over 95.
>>5830023030%. Reroll so you can heal the real classes. Put on the dress you brown sissy.
>>583002373self insert?
>>583002452>if anyone actually plays WoW to raid or to PvP>ifAnd you call other people low IQ
>>583002149we noticed anonwe noticed but said nothingwe felt so bad for you
>>583002373bibisi brown mupdoop big parser mandiGOD warbvll
>>583002124what about buying warcraft 3 reforged and its expansion and pretending you got a discount on beta access? is that a viable strategy? or is it still shit
>>583002570>>583002525
>>583001583>It's the community with whom you quest and interact with. Leveling up is a means to an end. You level up and gear up only to do more quests with other people.I also mainly want to do quests but not with other players. I always get annoyed when there are people in my area wanting to group up with me for a quest.
>>583002452And i can't believe people who play vanilla which barely even gives a reason to go collect 10 bear asses, and have that as their primary motivation, is actually enjoying themselves. They're delusional
>>583002602Yes.*adjusts massive bibisi buldge*
>>583002124You pay for the elves. You get the beta for free.
Yep. It's gaming time.
>>583002525yes
yjk...
Overplayed>Warrior>Hunter>Paladin>ShamanNormal>Mage>Druid>RogueUnderplayed>Warlock>Priest
>>583002328Yes, unironically, that's me. I will absolutely own up.to being a leech
>>583002709häng DIES an
>>583002687>for free
>>583002548Yes, "if". It's a conditional statement. Read the rest of the sentence. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen.
>>583002726agp tranny die die die
>>583002746>Chudmale>OverplayedYeah once they announce CHADMAN TANK TODAY!!It's gonna be so fuarking gigakino
>>583002687no that's paying for the cosmetics and beta access and getting the elves for free
>>583002726good girl
I want to do a skelf but feels like every other race has better racials for all classes...
>>583002746the less warlocks and mages in the game the better. fuck anyone that plays them
>>583002796Yeah. For free. Because you're not paying for the beta. You're paying for another product entirely.
>>583002687If you were buying elves, you would pay 30 dollars. You're buying beta.
new>>583002892>>583002892>>583002892
>>583002837Shut the fuck up sillu
>>583002847They're the second most popular class on Horde right behind Undead Paladin. No reason to expect that to change
>>583002709anhäng diese nüsse lol xD^^
>>583002878even me?
>>5830028902/10 bait, make it more believable next time.
>>583002861i can't think of any viable combo other than maybe alliance druid
>>583002452Your assessment of people's iqs isn't very convincing if you admit that you can't understand how normal people can be normal. You might not actually have much insight.
>nooo warrior can't be top dps it's not fairOkay. Then warrior needs these new abilities.>Hone BodyWarrior cures itself of all stuns, polymorph, and poisons. Can be used while the warrior is disabled. 1 min cd.>Unrelenting ForceIntercept can be used in all stances, and now removes all slows, and snares from the warrior and make them immune to them for 5 seconds.>Invigorating ShoutHeals the warrior for 25% of their hp, scaling with attack power. 30s cd.>Concussion BlowBaseline ability, 5 second stun.>Disorienting SlamDisorients the target for 30 seconds. 1 min cd.Now your hybrid can do more damage.
>>583002861who cares you're never going to pink parse, you're never getting gladiator when they add arenas, you're never getting scarab lord. just play what you'll enjoy the most and be the most immersed in
>>583002847Can't wait for aggrend to btfo all nay sayers saying this was gonna be sod-
>>583002861skelves have parashoot baseline anon
>>583002920its all written you are too blind to see indian subhuman its gonna be kino wow forever won
>>583003154Because everyone knows tanking is such a popular role. People just want tanking specs and to tank so bad!
>>582998249>parsingsorry im straight
>>583002452>>583001985I mean this honestly, with complete sincerity and no insult behind it: you probably would enjoy FFXIV a lot more than WoW because it caters far more to the experience you're looking for in an MMO
>>583002861They do, no one can accuse skelf players of engaging in p2w because their racials are absolute dogshit
>>582991015>>582992826It destroys class fantasy and like the rest of the legacy trees, it's far too strong.
>>583003974
>>583003829I appreciate the thought but I've played FFXIV and t was genuinely one of the worst gaming experiences of my life. Fucking miserable.
>>583004204classic players are disgusting, we need reasonable changes like dungeon bots
>>583004204Can you just take the mask off and advocate for random queues and teleport-to-dungeon already?
>>583004204Retail propaganda go back to retail you absolutely vile sick twisted cretin.
>>583004204this but for adding LFR, wow token, and level scaling
>>583001029Nigga, how are you suprised about rogue doing rogue things? Did we really need your reddit-tier live blogpost?
>>583004541>>583004836>>583005067>>583005250Incredible strawman after strawman. For classic PLUS, which is what Blizzard called it at Blizzcon, some changes are going to happen, obviously. Of those changes I think its more than reasonable to reduce SOME tedium of warlocks. For example if you spec into the new demo capstone and you respawn in a battleground you are expected to use a shard every time, go through getting a pet out every time, plus personal buffs. Then you have to get your mana back. Also if you want a healthstone thats another shard. I think its more than reasonable to lower some of this tedium while also not being in favor of LFR or auto summoning to raids and dungeons. Its insane that I have to explain this at all but then again purists can be very insufferable.
Bros I wanna learn how to tank, but I dont wanna be bothered being schreeched at by autist, cause I dont know every single fucking dungeon inside and out. And I dont fucking wanna read 10 hours of guides to know how to tank dungeons. Why is the barrier to entry so high
>>583003974Also>class fantasy is when you spend 30+ seconds every single time you respawn in a bg