>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins November 4th.>Previous Thread >>583911235
>>583928230>>583928178>>583927876>>583927319Do you guys think there should ever be quests or pvp rewards for this? Killing the leader of the enemy faction?
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
moonkin are frickin cute as heckconsidering rolling a druid just to play as one, unfortunately femnelf casting animations are complete doodoo and I am not too keen on playing a bullboydecisions decisions...
Why must I keep adding e-daddy names to my filter list? I'm tired boss
>>583928374it will be a legacy point
How does the new server system even work? I see only 4 realms, does that mean there is going to be 1 billion people in Stormwind PVE-Europe server?
Sky Elf racials MUST be buffed. The only race in the game to get racials that have zero use in combat.
>>583928451Yup, this is a whore exclusive to the alliance
>>583928374Probably not. Capitals would be constantly camped by organized tryhard raid groups
HOLD THE LINE! KEEP SPAMMING SOCIAL MEDIA!! OUR FEEDBACK IS CRUCIAL!!! IF I CANT EXCLUSIVELY LEVEL IN DUNGEONS THEN IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF!!!!!!!
>>583928528layers
>>583928548sexelf is ERP race, not combat race
based op
>>583927636Darkfallen priests.Trust the plan.
>>583928658i don't know what's based about having trannies in your mind 24/7
>>583928596I mean it really does need to be changed. I ran a dungeon last night and got like 10% of a level from it, post-changes. It's pathetic.
>>583928749You're the guy who claims anyone who doesn't want to live around niggers secretly wants to suck their dicks, aren't you?
I love the OP image. A lot better than the fury porn shit that always gets used.
ALLIANCE SKYBORNE SHAMAN WHEN
>>583928857why did you run the dungeon?
Guys seriously. Stop harrasing him! Some trolls in here found his employer and are harrasing this poor manlet. You dun goofed now anons, alex will call the cyber police.
>>583928451Shit. We need gobbo sluts.
swolebenji hasnt made a wow forever vid yet guys im getting very nervous...did he forget about us? im sure we all remember his iconic rogue grinding video, defined the meta for a generation; imagine that now but with the 5% food xp buff and more oh my... please save us swolebenji you're our only hope
The get 100% mount fast guide:1. Get herbalism2. Get alchemy3. Run UBRS and get the recipe for Flask of the Titans4. Go to Silithus because people hate it there, farm Black Lotus5. Produce FoT for raiding people and sell for insane profits on the AHStep 3 sucks though as the drop rate on that recipe is terrible but this worked in 2006 so it will probably work in 2026.I’m sure no one will do this so it will just be me.
>>583928980Unironically soon
>>583928596To be clear, the issue with this is simply I'm not going to run a dungeon again while leveling once I do the dungeon quests. If someone wants an item from the dungeon and wants to run it again, I'll say no, we're not doing that. It's too bad XP. The XP gains of a dungeon need to at least match the gains of leveling outside of a dungeon, and they currently do not. The easy solution to fix the problems Blizzard has is just to A) Prevent experience gain for EVERYONE in the party if someone is 10 levels above the dungeon's requirement. (My understanding is they did this) and B) Disable dungeon experience entirely if a dungeon is ran more than five times in a day. So, if you run 5 dungeons in a day, your experience gains are then limited. That said, I don't understand why Blizzard has this bone up their arse about people leveling in dungeons. It's far more social to do that than to quest. I only ever interact with people in dungeons. Questing in WoW Classic/Forever is not set up for grouping.
>>583929242to keep it a stack with you famo i'm just gonna buy gold
>>583929145>le alex is le short meme
>>583929242>just get the recipe lol>go farm lotus instead of buying it for 50g from the vendorcute retard
I'm a little nervous about them saying there will be more race/class combos soon. Keeping the lore based combinations is important for immersion. I already hate that we have troll warlocks.
>>583929268good news, they made a game just for you!
>>583929323If you don't buy gold, you're a tranny. Asmongold said so.
>>583928267>posted it again award OPYawn, get some new material>inb4 kek brain brokenNot one person for the last week has given a single shit and bothered to respond about the supposedly hilarious image referencing that trannies kill themselves. It's sad how much yall chuds think about trannies and 99% of them don't even bother to notice itI know how you closeted faggots talk in discord DMs, you can lie to yourself about it, but we all know anon
Rolling dwarf shaman would be the dream for me. Badass class with badass raceToo bad I cant roll one because everyone I know is playing horde, again, like every other time. But I dont understand what the fuck you alliance sissies are whining about dwarf shaman
>>583928596If they make leveling through dungeons viable I will be botting multiple mages and selling boosts. Which I will then funnel the gold into multiple other seller accounts to sell gold. The ball is in Blizzard's court.
remove windfury from the game
>we're still getting anti social retards who do not understanding the concept of running a dungeon for a friend despite not getting anything out of it>the concept of a favor without reward is completely lost on themThe overlap between this, the boosting pajeets, and the trannies is almost a circle. They completely don't understand basic human interaction.
>orc and undear racials soon to be gutted>hordekeks banished back to the sewers where they belong>Russkie boosters unable to afford their draft deferral bribes and being sent to the trenches as we speakForever is healing
Unfathomably based OP.
>>583929489It's just shitposting. I'm seeing loads of dwarf shamansI played horde in 2019 classic, rolling alliance because I want a fresh start
>>583928645its true
>>583929268I simply think dungeons and raids should drop unique crafting materials specific to that dungeon with a low drop rate to encourage poopsock grinding and farming of said dungeons and raids. I want WoW Forever to be OSRS levels of grinding, ideally.
So does the skinner get prio on pristine skin or should it be a group roll?
>>583929520>the concept of a favor without reward is completely lost on themit really is for the average wow player. if anything kills forever it'll be the playerbase
>>583929568what's based about being obsessed over trannies?
>>583929640You think the middle one produces chocolate milk?
>>583928451>>583929534>>583929640Nice thread, already full of trannies.
>>583929718I haven't played since early cata but vanilla-wrath I saw higher levels running dungeons for friends all the time. Deadmines was incredibly common too. And they wouldn't get anything out of it but having a grateful friend
>>583929704Why don't you get a job IRL instead?
>>583929268lets take your retarded logic to the nth degree>players exclusively level in dungeons because of whatever bullshit excuse they give>why bother having a world to explore?>world is empty, everybody is inside instances>world pvp is nonexistent, PVP servers have no reason to exist>might as well just take every instance portal and slap them all into a small hub so players don't need to waste any time traversing between dungeons>in fact, why even have a hub, just make the game a simple menu where you select what instance you want to run, and matchmaking does the rest
>>583929778
What the fuck is the Undead Male 2H animation? I don't even know what its supposed to be, you just kinda vaguely move the weapon in front of you, its not even a swing.
would you prefer a priest or shaman gf
jewish brownoid american thread obsessed with troons (we dont have them in my country, they get beaten to death)
>>583929778You neopuritan larpers are so fucking cringe
>>583929758nahits going to be latte
>>583929790classic got really bad and SoD was a nightmare, genuinely makes me nervous as fuck.
Why is Alliance full of brown americans constantly spamming about politics?
>>583929832>>583929896Seethe niggers.
>>583929824It's a stupid, extreme example, because obviously not everyone will choose to level that way. It's exactly the way Vanilla/TBC were. The game wasn't empty. You guys are just asking for changes. You're the retailers now.
how many of you think about trannies on a daily basis?
>>583929858priest ofc while I play a paladin
>>583929349>meme
>>583929876 based
>>583929858pregnant skelf shamwife pls (on the alliance ofc)
>>583930073wouldn’t you prefer a shaman gf for wind fury and mana totem
>>583929876Let them fight the good fight like your country clearly already has. You are a virtual tourist on an American website, after all. Be more grateful.
what's blizzard's obsession with camping/campfires?
Shockadin is surprisingly more disgusting than I thought it'd be. Only died because I got cocky and separated from group. Warlock unsurprisingly shitting out dot damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg28HuLT2C0 RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>583930017did you see how classic turned out? with every chat spammed with mage boosters selling runs, literal trains of players running to and from stockades/SM/maraudon as they get boosted? that's what you're asking for.
>>583930082>has a gfbetter than most of you kissless virgins.
>>583930102I see she visited Durotar!
>>583930160you have brown hands
>>583929858Holy maiden > smelly elemental whore
>>583930102I did Sky Elf Shaman in beta, 29. Horde though. I'll be doing Sky Elf Druid on launch because Shaman seems too weak in PvP (I'm a healer, and I don't feel like they have good survivability if people target you).
We're all here>https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali>https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali>https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
what is it about wow that attracts so many porn addicted freaks with mental illness?
>>583930207Trans-coded thumbnail.
>>583930207The skyborne model stands out so fucking much
>>583930218Ok buddy, now stop doxxing him, okay? Alex told us it was you doing it.
i thoughted meeting stones were banned?
>you need 24750 rank points to hit rank 14 in pvp>there's a weekly cap to the pointsPredictions on what the weekly cap is?
>>583930230No no, I'm white. But I would like to remind you that you're typing in English. Be more grateful.
>>583930245this is an advertisement bye!
>>583930213I said boosting should be blocked.
ASMONGOLD LOVES KIKESALEXENSUAL HATES KIKESSIMPLE AS
>>583930343>I'm whitenot seeing your hands brownoid
>>583930431what does he think about trannies?
>>583928451Any femgobbo hotties? ;)
>>583930431What does this post have to do with wow forever?
>>583930462he loves them, 2 of his current mods are troons.
>>583929758Duh
>>583930476Trans-coded post.
>>583928350>oh hey maybe i'll play healer for once>hunter it is
>>583930596>If you find women sexually desirable you're a trannyAbsolutely mentally ill.
>>583930546>JANNIES PLS HELP ME JAAANNIEEEES WAAAHstfu kys.
>>583930437Your turn!
>>583930649You represent yourself online as a female anime character and use emoticons like a man pretending to be a female. That's what trannies do.
>>583930763I have literally never done any of those things.
>>583930549fucking based, i love trannies
>>583929520If I'm doing a favor to my mates by tanking them through wailing caverns thats 2 hours I lose and gain nothing in returnI don't think even my mates would want such a one sided favor, they'd rather find another tank. If they do they're not my mates
>>583930159its about the theme dude, I dont give a shit about min maxingI will be the holy champion and she will be my angel and its going to be romantic
>>583930720>>>/fit/77559594
>level a hunter to 60 to get all the legacy points and then level a priest with the talented legacy talent to get shadowform earlier and level to 60 faster>level a priest to 60 from the startWhat's faster?
>>583930546ALEX IS THE BEST WOW PLAYER EVER
>>583930351>he doesn't know about /ourguy/
>>583930245he fell off so hard. he had his niche in 2019 Classic as being a streamer from the best Horde and NA guild and that carried him through TBC as well. it's been Era streams for years and he won't even play Forever. he was such a cool dude and now the vibes are just perpetually down as he farms irrelevant stuff to 100 viewers.
>>583930847These people claim to be no-changes but then want changes to dungeon XP. They're just lonely losers with no friends.
>>583930851okay i’ll be your angel c:
>>583930832You are doing both of those things. Ack before you groom, tranny.
>>583930847I refuse to believe people this autistic exist. I thought I was autistic but this is like genuine mental disorder autistic and retarded.
>>583930763what's wrong with being a tranny?
>>583929704I think there could be account wide rewards, maybe cosmetics or special emotes, that you unlock if you complete a dungeon say 100 times across your Forever characters. Make one for each dungeon. The issue with making WoW horizontal like OSRS is WoW isn't sandbox. OSRS has all the gathering and crafting that can interact to create new content. WoW is 99% combat. WoW was made to be vertical so making Forever horizontal will be a serious challenge.
>>583929435>chuds have no response because they know it's trueYWNBARM
>>583930981It's a mental illness
>>583930976You are autistic, and he is normal. It's normal to expect to gain something for investing hours of your time into a video game.
>>583930859I'm definitely not a fatty kek. What is your next cope? And no hands? So you're brown, is that it?>>583930178But is it fun? I've only tried prot.
Full-time Dali streams will cease within the next couple of months, or by the end of the year at the latest. After that, Dali may still stream once in a while for fun, but there are no guarantees or schedule. Dali will not answer or entertain questions about what he will be doing after streaming ends.
>>583931057no it's not
>>583930976Oh I see you are doing a gimmick and baiting responses.
>>583931013>making Forever horizontal will be a serious challenge.they've already said in the last interview that they've given up
>>583930596not everyone is trans like you.
>>583929435get shot by a nigger irl troon freak
>>583930847>If I'm doing a favor to my mates by tanking them through wailing caverns thats 2 hours I lose and gain nothing in return>>583930976>I refuse to believe people this autistic existDo you really?
>>583930017The players are different. There's more knowledge, there's more participation in endgame which means players are literally stronger on average than in 2006. When TBC classic launched, the overwhelming majority of people were stepping into Hellfire Peninsula with AQ40 and Naxx gear and meta-conscious guildmates, making hellfire citadel spam a much more appealing leveling process for metafaggotry than questing. In 2007 the average person stepping into Outland was maybe lucky to see the inside of Blackwing Lair. The average player today is conditioned to take the path of least resistance and highest benefit. Once there are players at lvl 60 the de-facto means of leveling will become AFKing while someone else clears a dungeon for you, just as it became in Classic, unless game design changes are implemented.
>>583931013The legacy point system could have extra points for running the same dungeon 10 times. With it being account wide you would only have to run a dungeon once per class +1 or multiple times on one if you want
>>583930336That's a Mimic Stone. If you attempt to get near the entrance of a dungeon you've already run once, it morphs into an angry golem and chases you away.
i’m trans and i will find a tank bf in wow forever!!
>>583931193kek
>>583931252>I want the game to be like retail!!! I hate Vanilla WoW and I want changes because I think I know better than the original devs. I want the game to be changed to cater to me. I am a diva.
>>583931193is pirate trans? he looks a little trans
>>583931149They should've made WotLK Forever. Change the game to remove flying mounts. Allows the original narrative to be completed. Make end game content from vanilla, TBC, and WotLK valuable in different ways. Then just expand horizontally from there. Retcon everything after WotLK into non-existence and make Warcraft 4 the sequel that never was.
>>583930981What isn't?
>>583931382Thanks for sharing
>>583930881priest first would be faster, but second would be pretty fun
>>583931428Even worse. He's a furry. He roleplayed as a ferret and had ferret furry sex.He also runs a ferret sanctuary. Please try not to imagine what that could mean.
>>583931308you would find me
>>583931490what is?
>>583931082Yes, it's very fun. I'm dueling outside stormwind now, just beat a druid and a 2.4k health hunter. Though hunter didn't have Croc for whatever reason.
>>583931485I agree except WotLK was where the sloppification of the game started. I liked the story, but they would need to remove a lot of shit like the talent casualization, dungeon finder, hero classes, and honestly I have no desire to level over 60. It's too much bloat
>>583931485No, Vanilla WoW->WOTLK ruined the lore more than Nu Blizzard ever did because they butchered Arthas, Illidan, & Kael, who were the most interesting characters in WoW history. We all universally hated the lore of TBC & WOTLK at the time.
>>583931490not a single one of those sources has been peer reviewed
>>583931258I think that might be the kind of compromise they will go for. If they're serious about horizontal progression they will have to start thinking this way. Things have to offer more rewards than xp.
When did this fucking board get so fucking gay? This general is worst than reddÃt. You're all such faggot pussies.
Is there a fun warlock leveling build? Do I rush to Soul Harvest first and then branch out?
>>583931585Aside from the STIs, the rampant pedophilia, the rampant domestic abuse, the drug abuse, etc? The litany of comorbid mental disorders. Such as the fact that most are autistic, which means they completely lack empathy and theory of mind, you know, symptoms of psychopathy. This isn't even something they try to hide, they gloat about it.
>>583931873When we started taking after your dad
>>583931873it's not normally this bad but the OP is an obsessed loser with trans derangement syndrome, we want to just talk about the game but he's ruining all discourse just to push his agenda
>>583931873believe it or not the shota porn spam was keeping the gay awayit got banned and now its gay
>>583931739Yeah, it would be a pretty big undertaking to make it good. It would be a rebuild. It's a pipe dream. I'm not even confident they can pull off Forever as it is.
>>583930245how can this guy support himself playing classic era all day when nobody cares about it
>>583931739>WotLK>Story>Every time you interacted with Arthas was him jobbing to Ashbringer or the Forsaken flu>overshadowed by Malygos and the dragon war>overshadowed by Yogg>lets Tirion build a literal faire ground at his doorstep>"i-it was all part of my plan to turn the players into my heccin death knights!">still fails
>>583931873When the jannies sided with them
>>583931873Raid because based OP has been making a lolcow of the loony troons.>>583931785You're objectively wrong using "universally" in your statement but I am curious what you would have liked to see from Arthas, Illidan, and Kael if not being cool super bosses? It seemed like the appropriate direction for the evil bros from the end of WCIII, but I do want to hear from someone on the other side of the fence on this
>>583931174Someone's cranky!
>>583931972there's no proof in that source, find another source to back it up.
Why don't we just spend the thread talking about trannies
>>583931546wow hi babe
>>583932146>i disagree with that source so it isnt he ccin valid!!1
>>583932078Somehow they need to change that ending. The Lich King allowing the Argent Crusade to just walk up to his door and almost kill him just so that he could have a "strong army of super powered raiders" when he was already capable of destroying the world was so stupid
>>583932226that's what OP wants so i'm giving it to him
>last nelf wifey post is her being enslaved by satyrs What did he mean by this?
>>583932258I mean thats why forever exists because blizzard turned all these cool ideas into shit
>>583932146You can see them on this very website, they're just as bad as I've told, perhaps worse.>>>/lgbt/If you want to stay willfully ignorant, go ahead, hopefully you'll kill yourself faster.
>>583932246i accept your concession, i know it's hard to find sources for made up information
these people WILL be the main demographic of forever and you WILL love them and RESPECT their wishes, bigot!
>>583932408>>583932258I know knowthing about pre wrath arthas.What was his plan after putting on the helm and becoming the lich king?
>>583931585There's nothing wrong with having your own head cannon gender shit. Just stop trying to tell other people they have to believe the same retarded stuff you do. Nobody gave a shit until you fags started trying to groom children.
Twice I've seen this OP posted. How mindraped are the discorders about WoW still.
>>583929824>Create classes balanced strictly around end game instanced content>People don't want to be in the world as a result>People would rather play instanced content because that's what you're designing forDo you:>Reconsider your class balance and design decisions.or>Change the game further to force people to play in a manner that you're not even designing the classes for.
>>583931951demonic brand soul link
Just checked wowg and their thread has been up for over 26 hours. What went wrong?
>>583932436that's a biased source, i bet you can't find a neutral objective source
>>583932601It's retail? What else needs to be said?
>>583932113Illidan got retconned in official WoW lore to be a good guy anyways. Kael would've been more interesting to just return to Azeroth & be the Blood Elf faction leader. I like the Blood Elves as an amoral, "grey" race, neither good nor evil, using demonic powers & siphoning a Naaru. That's what's interesting about them. Arthas was fine, it's just WOTLK turned him into a Scooby Doo villain showing up and making annoying statements. I've seen someone suggest that we could rescue Arthas before he merges with Nerzhul and as a result the undead go on their murderous rampage across Azeroth with no Lich King.
>>583932601>What went wrong?BFA, then Shadowlands, then Dragonflight, then War Within, then Midnight...
>>583932436Why'd you post graphs about late stage capitalism?
>>583932358It means Felwood supremacy
>>583932481I still don't know why they did this, every time I leveled a caster I was excited to get new gear even if it was just stats and no SP.I genuinly think this is a "we have to make changes to justify our existence. If we don't were basically saying we're not as good as the developers were 20 years ago.
>>583932663This is also retail.
>>583932601forever exists because retail is dying
>>583932358this is a transcoded post, everybody do not engage with it
>>583929824You can find a happy medium where people do open world and dungeons, without totally nerfing dungeons into the dirt.People should keep running until they get the gear they want /or/ outlevel the dungeon. They shouldn't feel that re-running to get gear is a total waste of time if the gear doesn't drop.
>>583932601Wowg at least doesn't have this anti tranny guy in their threads
I'm going to settle all this trans stuff so people can stop posting about it. You aren't trans if you are attracted to females. The people posting borderline porn in the thread are fine. This is 4chan. If you are a puritan, you shouldn't be here. I myself am a Christian and I just don't click the images. This is a site for degenerates and you coming here and trying to change that is like a normie coming in and trying to change your favorite hobby to make it something they like. Trans people are also degenerates so they also fit in here. End of story. Just get over it. If you get so bent out of shape over it, it's probably because you're secretly attracted to trans people and threatened by them or something.
>>583932701We save Arthas and he becomes King of the Alliance....kino
>>583931873sorry, not interested in playing on a pvp server
>>583932543>only twicehe had 4 of them up at the same time yesterday, he's genuinely mentally ill>>583931951demonic brand. you don't even need soul link or sacrifice.
>>583928596i'm already exhausted with this bullshit, SoD 2.0 confirmed
>leftist freaks posting about sex and their retarded economic theoriesi'm not even a chud and this shit is way more annoying than the unfunny racist shit rightwingers spam chat with
>Wowg at least doesn't have this anti tranny guy in their threads
what the fuck did they mean by this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg28HuLT2C0
One thing I think actually does help the PvP scene rather than hurt it, is queueing bgs from anywhere. I know people don't like the idea of queuing, but having to sit at a faction city afk waiting for queue to pop is boring as shit when I could be dueling outside Elwynn and talking to people.Hell, just get rid of bg leaders in major cities and make us have to go out into the world to queue. Then we can pvp out there. Anything is better than afking in stormwind.
>>583930974Take your meds. I'm not whoever you think I am.
>>583932701>Illidan got retconned in official WoW lore to be a good guy anyways.That was later >Kael would've been more interesting to just return to Azeroth & be the Blood Elf faction leader. I like the Blood Elves as an amoral, "grey" race, neither good nor evil, using demonic powers & siphoning a Naaru.I can see that, I remember wanting Kael to be the belf faction leader during BC but I can't deny it was cool he got his own raid and area. I think my problem with it is that he stopped being relevant too quickly. Horizontal progression could keep his raid relevant.>Arthas was fine, it's just WOTLK turned him into a Scooby Doo villain showing up and making annoying statementsAgreed, hated that he kept popping up, even that dungeon where he chases you>I've seen someone suggest that we could rescue Arthas before he merges with Nerzhul and as a result the undead go on their murderous rampage across Azeroth with no Lich King.Super fucking gay. I'm terrified they are going to go this "redeem Arthas" route. Let him be the fucking Lich King, that was the whole point
>>583932701Illidan's big plan was to hide in Outland and fortify it so when the burning legion eventually tries to punish him for his failures, they can't reach him because all the portals are broken and the entire planet is a fortress. He had no plans to fuck with Azeroth again. He just wanted to have his own planet and fuck off Sauron style making it an unpenetrable fortress of fuck you
>>583933004they beg you not to rush 60 and complain about lack of endgame
>>583932991yeah why is it that we have to put up with this tranny obsessed loser? we just want to talk about the game, but he keeps pushing his agenda
>>583932887true, wowg is very welcoming to us tranxisters
>>583932902The fact is that the people posting porn are straight men in their 30s. Who like to share porn to masterbate over with their fellows and as a man I appreciate their posts
>>583931485This but unrionically.
>>583933004I noticed this too. Why would you do a dungeon twice with xp reduction?Just do as many quests you can in one run and move on with your life.
>>583932526he was basically a puppet, he didn't really start having plans till he managed to eat the lich king,
>>583933089>his agenda>a wow ingame screenshot used for the OP
As resto shaman should I be trying to DPS with spells when people don't need healing or should I be conserving my mana and letting my mana tick refill? Coming from healing in ff14 where you're expected to dps. When the runs are going well everything is gravy, but when a dps attacks too soon and pulls aggro and things go to shit its like "wish I had more mana now instead of having cast those few lightning bolts". Even something like throwing down a searing totem and a flameshock is a sizeable mana investment at the start of a fight.
>>583933148watch him scramble to make the new thread with the same image again, he's obsessed, probably thinks about trannies all day
>>583933148An edited with ai image mind you. And it's wierd he hates the ai porn but not this
>>583933202this isnt final fantasy 14, healers dont have to dps
>>583933202Just drop the magma totem & fire shock here and there, otherwise auto attack mobs and heal.
>>583933089>t.ranny
>>583933226>>583933262this is actually the first time I made a thread with that OP image. pornsick trannies are really just that unbearable.
>>583933029Put a battlemaster outside city gates
>>583933004I said it before but they need to offer legacy rewards for completing dungeons multiple times. It would communicate to the playerbase that they're serious about horizontal progress and that rushing to 60 isn't the only way to play. As of now they claim it'll be horizontal and everyone just wants to bum rush lvl 60. There's a disconnect.
>>583933134Some people are mentally ill completions and feel like they HAVE to get all the deviant blooms and they HAVE to get all the troll temper.
>>583933090Wowfg is trying to be ruined by this anti tranny guy who just wants the threads to be talking about trannies
>>583933087Entirely avoidable, all they had to do was make all 9 of the dungeons for level 60s instead of wasting time making leveling content that nobody gives a fuck about. But they're trannies, they don't have a grip on reality.
>>583933202you should be hitting fat obese windfury procs then yelling "HELL YEAH" each time you proc one.
>>583932956I like to imagine that this is nelf wifey after being "upgraded" on her felwood venture
chudbros....
>>583933146>>583933086>>583933074Illidan has only one single thing he cares about and that's Tyrande Whisperwind. That's it, that's the character. He wanted enough strength to protect himself from being mind raped and killed by the burning legion and he loved her.Arthas is even worse. He knows the burning legion will come to fuck Azeroth but he thinks he can only stand against them if he turns the entire planet into an undead army that can't be killed and so can't be conquered.So there has to be SOME changes to their characters if they are going to do anything in the story eventually
Is the 10% reduced damange from molten skin worth the increased immolate damage and daze from conflag? Seems like it would be really nice since you don't get CoE from that build.
>>583933424I just like finishing a quest and having another chance to get a nice upgrade, it's not some mental complex. Having a reason in the form of decent EXP is just an extra incentive
>>583933404Why are you lying? You make the thread early every single time with the same image then get mad at the thread that wasnt made with the same image. Don't suddenly pretend you haven't been doing this for days.
>>583933202put flametongue on your weapon and melee mobs from the back as you regen mana in between heals
>>583933491the male suicide epidemic includes all the trannies since they're still biologically male lmaogiga self own
>>583933491Trannies are men.
this isn't going to end before Forever is dead btwyou might be faintly aware of it but you're currently living though the opening stages of chud gotterdammerung, it's only going to get worse as the pendulum continues its slow swing back
>>583933491I believe it, troons are men after all.
trannies are based
>>583933202Nobody is expecting healers to deal damage in old school WOW but if you arent healing or laying down totems theres no reason why you cant auto attack with flametongue weapon
i’m considering going a tank class. is warrior too boring? i would consider paladin too but if i went horde then 25% of the server is going to be undead pally and i like being a unique butterfly :^)i played a priest on my last run and healing stressed me the fuck out. it’s like the better you do the more confident the tank gets and aggros more mobs faster. i was sweating trying to keep up with managing enemy/ally targets, downranked heals, priority, mana regen, etc.
>>583933491>Men have a higher suicide rate >mtf trannies are still men and have a drastically higher suicide rate than normal men???
>>583933657Men can be women if they want as long as they are attractive enough to get my dick hard
>>583933774you dont know it yet, but you're a mage
>>583932956Soul link is so you dont die in pvp
>>583933774Healing is one of the more stressful roles in MMOs in general. You're relying on players not being reckless and need to be able to anticipate damage spikes so you don't go low on mana. Half the time pugs are full of assholes who pull too much and want to blame anyone but themselves.
>>583933583like I said, this is the first time i've done this when I baked a new thread. i'm sure you don't have a problem lying to yourself and your brain worms
Inv to Asmon layer Olympus is 4chan culture You will never be a woman
>>583933871This.I'd let my Incubus pozz my neghole any day of the week.
>>583934013You are going to claim this when the next thread is made with the same image?
>>583933950shan't be rolling a griefer server
talk about alex
>>583933294>>583933313>>583933470>>583933628>>583933732Thanks bros, hugs and kisses. Wishing you all sloppy toppies from your preferred source.
>>583934138i only want to talk about trannies
Launch is still so far away
Yknow the Op image appears to be in org right? But the guy who makes it claims that the Horde is the tranny faction so why would they hang a guy next to the flag? Was the guy hanged a anti tranny?
>>583934138level 17 druid
I genuinely can't think of a way to include Illidan and Arthas in a way that isn't fucking retarded
>>583928267How hard ya gotta get trolled to start making the same OP over and over again due butthurt?
If you want to talk about trannies there's >>>/lgbt/ for you
>>583934249It should be further away, cancelled even, because it's retail trash tailor made for trannies.
>>583932586>>583932956demonic brand is strange when running a succubus... is she going to be able to tank all these mobs?
>>583934101No because i'm not going to be around to make the next thread. All i'm saying is that this is the first time i've made a thread with that image. Thanks for continuing the long standing tradition of trannies being absolutely fucking insufferable and making everyone hate them. I voted for Obama, Hillary, Biden, and Harris btw.
I want to play rogue but I know I'll never see any dungeons if I do.
>>583934412But anon we need to talk about trannies because we keep having the same tranny op
>>583934423holy shit. holy fucking shit. straight white male gaymers are LITERALLY the most oppressed group in the USA. and even the world.fuck this clown world.
>>583934423>femalesthat's problematic
>>583934423Why does it seem like this gay shit is only on the horde side
>Noo you must play our game in our approved format or we'll nerf what you're doing from the gameWhy are they like this?
>>583934497Solution is to have a friend be a tank and start the groups as a duo. My wife wants to play a rogue or a mage so I'll be making a warrior or paladin alt to play with them.
>>583934101Yes because i'm going to be around to make the next thread. All i'm saying is that this will continue until wowfg dies.
>>583934454yes, easily.she's way tankier now
>>583933515>Illidan has only one single thing he cares about and that's Tyrande Whisperwind. That's it, that's the character. He wanted enough strength to protect himself from being mind raped and killed by the burning legion and he loved her.Gay. Raid boss was better.>Arthas is even worse. He knows the burning legion will come to fuck Azeroth but he thinks he can only stand against them if he turns the entire planet into an undead army that can't be killed and so can't be conquered.Fascinating headcanon. Arthas/Lich King was indisputably evil. I think you're mixing your slop lore that came later in again.
>Forsaken npc talking like a female pandaren
>>583934642>meanwhile, alliance characters in Retail: Forever
I CANT RUN A DUNGEON MORE THAN ONCE WITH THE NEW XP RATES BECAUSE ITS NOT EFFICIENT DONT YOU GET IT I NEED EFFICIENCY TO GO FAST BECAUSE IF I DONT GO FAST I GO SLOW AND SLOW IS BAD BECAUSE ITS NOT FAST I HAVE TO GO FAST
>>583934423isn't this in classic too?
>>583934683I don't have any friends.
>>583934486Im actually thinking you may be telling the truth because normally the guy also neglects to link the last thread in the op
>>583934874The Game starts at level 60, why would you want to be stuck not playing The Game?
>>583934797please dont make fun of mr.ClaudeGPT, blizzards hardest worker
>>583934874>we nerfed quests to 0 exp, don't like it? forever wasn't made for you stop rushing you minmax sweat
>>583929268I think that's fine - there's like 20 different dungeons to do before you even hit level 40
>>583928596>they want others to play the game in the same way as themselvesI agree that Blizzard over-corrected with dungeon experience, but statements like this make me worried what these people are going to move onto after this.>"Don't like level boosting? Just don't use it. Why do you need other people to play the game the same way?">"If you like to raid, then raid. But I shouldn't be penalized with worse gear because I only want to do 5-mans."etc.These people fundamentally don't understand, or are pretending not to understand, what makes the friction at the core of Classic gameplay rewarding to overcome. No, you aren't supposed to be able to do exactly what you'd "prefer" at all times without giving something up.
>>583934976>the game starts at 60 What game? The one where you are only logging in to raid?
>>583934797I'll rewrite this as a regular guy"Greetings anon, combat isn't the only way to advanced the cause of the Forsaken. Skilled craftsmen are in high demand. I can point you in their direction if one interest you. For the Dark Lady"
>>583934976>>583934996The most efficient way to play is to buy a fully geared max level character then
>>583934929yeah, it's bait
>>583934951on god fr fr
you now miss BWL
quests should be scarce and give minor exp and you should have to group with other people and camp a spawn location for hours a day while you all talk to eachother
>>583934683Fuck off normie piece of shit
>>583935113Level 60 is the only point where gear actually starts to last longer than a couple hours and where content actually starts to have more mechanics than health and mana management. Leveling is the tutorial, players don't want to sit through the tutorial on their umpteenth playthrough.
>let the schizo beat you to another bake
>>583934705That's really sad and pathetic anon. Go outside and touch some moss, you'll feel better
>>583934874Time is a limited resource, and leveling dungeon gear just isn't worth getting when it's replaced a few hours later. If I'm not getting experience, I ain't running it. Simple as.
>>583935197you now miss BBLs
>>583935439So if time is the most valuable thing why arent you just buying a max level character that's already geared? You dont want to waste precious time actually playing the game do you?
they should remove all quests and dungeons and raids and only give 1xp for killing mobs minimum of 4 levels about you and mobs at your level give 0xp and the only items you can get are the white items from vendors and every day your character has a 40 gold tax that you need to pay or else your character is sent to prison for 1 month of real time (no sub refunds)
>>583934705how will an anti tranny image kill wowfg? the trannies are mostly in wowg with their mounts mogs cheevos
>add a bunch of quest>don't show them on the minimap so I miss all of themThis wouldnt piss me off so much if new quest didnt randomly appear in areas I've cleared and have no reason to return to without knowing a new quest appears.
>>583935607it's about the journey anon
Why is everyone posting in the troon thread wtf
>>583931951if you want to play like a hunter spec demo, if you want to play like a mage/spriest spec destro, if you want to play like a warlock spec affliction
>>583935537I do buy gold for exactly this reason.
>>583934705if we're being honest you'll probably kill yourself first
>>583935607probably a bug because the button still exists in separate bags
When will they release the roguelike mega dungeon where your team gets deeper based on random rewards?
>>583934936Make some!
I told y’all at the start of the beta that aggrend was balancing the game for Xaryu because the only thing aggrend cares about is being friends with Xaryu, and you laughed at me because mage wasn’t broken at the time. Well, who’s laughing now, i told you they deliberately made mage lacklustre at the beginning to keep people away from it so Xaryu could shine
>>583935615They should have xp lockouts on dungeonsorIf you're in 5 levels in a group and do a dungeon you get full xp but above that -80% xp or somethingSo no lvl 60 can just run low level dungeons for everyone
>>583935849go play retail
I watched this video (ignore the fag) and this shit looks like fucking garbage. Shills will tell you that this is "good level design". It's also retail tranny lore too, they just took Ulduar from retail (one of the most pozzed raids in retail) and slapped it in Un'goro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBkCfZZb9yQ
>>583935849>torghast
>>583930017If its the fastest way to level most people will do it. You have to physically force humans to not follow metas.
>>583935401This is my big concern with shit like the armor sets. Why the fuck would I farm the Fang set on live? Aside from the fact that WC sucks ass, it will be replaced instantly. It was replaced within an hour of the level cap rising. What the fuck is the point? They're making this big show of upgrading the SC set, too. Fucking why? You get it just in time to replace it with plate as you move along and never see it again at 60.
>>583935901streamer culture for videogames has been a blight
>>583935958Then don't play it.
how are you guys more obbessed with trannies than the xiv general
>>583935970torghast could have been fun if they made it harder and not required for progressing your character
>>583935817Isn't this the anti-troon thread? The hung corpse in front of the flag is the tranny.
>>583933134For gear you dumbass. Like they literally said.
>>583935958
>>583935958>hating UlduarThere must be limits to being a contrarian.
>>583936106I won't, I'll be waiting for it to flop. They already have Classic Fresh planned in 2028, we'll see if Forever Retail is such a tremendous failure they decide to push Classic Fresh out earlier to recoup costs.
>>583936117it looks like they lynched some chud
>>583936109because we have no cute elf tranny healer gfs here and the final trantasy thread has a lot of them...
>>583936149NTA but this does not address things like full 8 piece sets in leveling dungeons. No one is going to run pre 60's that much when they could outlevel the gear in that time
>>583935330Thank you for showing us why you're single.
>>583932762I was under the impression they needed to do it to fix hybrid classes as if they made feral/ret/ench as powerful as other dps while they still had crazy base values on their heals then their kits would be very over the top.
>>583934996I'd totally be okay with them nerfing quests too as long as dungeons werent better. Make the grind way longer.
How effective is this debuff? What kind of damage reduction are we looking at for trash mobs and bosses at max level?
>>583936215Ulduar is retail tranny slop. We called them wrathbabies before we found out that they were trannies.
>>583936272It looks nothing like that but you lost and got raped so I understand your tensed jaw and barely contained anger.
>>583936025
>>583936315I am
>>583936421~15% but it won't stack with demo shout
>>583936193Pride flag colored crystals in a bisexual lighting lit room, not a good look Forever"chads".
>>583936512I'm happy for you anon, but it is still very shit design.
>>583936603oh then fuck it
>>583936421it's stronger than max rank demo shout since they removed the improved demo shout talent
>>583936315>BRO YOUR NOT MIN MAXING FAST ENOUGH BRO!!!>YOUR NOT BEING OPTIMAL WITH YOUR XP PER HOUR BRO!!!Kill yourself.
>>583936490nah it looks exactly like that, the flag is in too good of a condition for it to be anything elseif it was a black guy and an intact cross you wouldnt say its shitting on the kkk
>>583932701>>583933074Illidan was always a good guy, he fought against the Legion and was unfairly persecuted by uptight elves.
Would give anything to permanently mute on all platforms every single person currently complaining about making single-step quest blues green. Such people will never contribute anything of value.
>>583936784>If you're doing anything but the most pointless inefficient time wasting thing then you're minmaxing
>>583936806Bitch please, look at the hair and make up. Who fucking cares this much anyway it's a shitpost TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
>>583936748didnt they just bake in the buff to the spells baseline?
>>583936905Intentionally avoiding something you consider fun to do something more efficient, even if its not the most efficient, is still minmaxing
>>583936315>No one is going to run pre 60's that much when they could outlevel the gear in that timeSo dungeons give too much XP now? Which one is it nigger
>>583936421It's the same one as demo shout and roar. There so that prot pala can take it in case no one else in raid brings it. Over 10% reduction so very large reduction but you only need one. Unfortunately thunder clap is still only on browns.
>>583936905Getting cool gear sets you want to get isn't pointless ineffective time wasting you fucking retard.
>>583936990No retard, you'll outlevel it in that time by questing. Please keep up
>>583936965oh yeah maybe, i thought it was just the duration one
Are you guys playing alliance or horde?
I just realized something, they can technically balance classes around gear and gear sets can't they? Like if the first tier content it's clear Paladins are struggling compared to warriors to main tank, in the next tier they could make a gear set buff that goes "increases your blocked damage by 20%"
>>583936905If you are consciously looking up XP rates of mob kills and comparing them between what you get in the world vs inside dungeons then you are by default a minmaxing faggot compared to the vast majority of the playerbase, yes
>>583936315Ignore all the trannies, Blizzard are only putting this "horizontal progression" slop in to appease trannies on reddit who love wholesome chungus "quirky" items. Forever will be a flop on the same level as Tortanic.
do i play sub rogue or enhancement brosi just wanna pvp
>>583937157We don't even know how horizontal progression is going to work. Honestly, I don't think blizzard does either
When will Dranei whores be added?
>>583936924>long aryan hairi'd like to discuss video games too idk why this dude keeps encouraging lynching chuds in the OP
The War on Alexensual rages
>>583937182The vast majority of players are going to avoid dungeons after the first run
>>583937236after satyrs
>>583937157But then they would run into the same problem with the next tier and it would make one class more reliant on gear than others
>>583937236With the last update in a desperate attempt to attract trannies that have already killed themselves back to the game.
>>583937157But you can't get the set because no one will invite you to do the content that gives the set because you don't already have the set to compete.
>>583937190Yeah they should go the route of classic instead which is a huge succe- oh wait, it died because minmaxing faggot cucks like you speedran it and got bored immediately. Do everyone a favor and fuck off to some korean grindfest MMO instead since it seems that's what your ADHD brain requires
>>583937153I'm playing horde because its what I've always played and I have every quest memorizedI think its the same for alliance players
>>583937192Do you want to do rogue things or do you want a 20% chance on hit to delete a cloth wearer from the game? Your heart knows the truth, anon
>>583929640the povest of green
>583937289The cope is unreal. I will not be giving you any more attention. Best check >>>/lgbt/ if you want to talk about how badly you want to kys with all your kin
>>583937236After enough people have bitten the shaman bullet and are high level enough.
>>583937235>>583937326>>583937336Maybe class quests? Like a class quest that unlocks a new spell or blessing that requires you to do the end game content to get?
>>583935958>>583936193>>583936632i mean, have you never been to Un'Goro Crater?
>>583937357When people were asking for Classic+, they weren't asking for "muh leveling content" or "muh quirky items", they were asking for more endgame dungeons, raids and battlegrounds, you know, the game part of the game, not the tutorial. The "quirky items" in classic were designed to teach you that there are shit items in WoW (the "quirky" ones like vendorstrike) and good items in WoW.
>>583937419i want to spam WSG and own BUT the issue is>watch geared rogue pvp videos>they dont kill anyone in opener>its not really a 1 shot class>they hit like mosquitos >watch enhancement pvp video>rnging someone for 130% of their hpIF rogue was like retail and was 1 shotting id play it but they seem not to be
>>583937335They already have SKElves, Draebaes are for straight men.
>>583937561BZZT wrong. Vanilla is about the journey not raid chudding. Leveling dungeons are just as important as max level ones.
>>583937554These people are bots anon, it's best to just ignore them
>>583937561bingo, we wanted an extension of the endgame, essentially an expansion but not raising the cap, not going outland etc
What’s this weeks victim class? I play a Druid so I’m quietly enjoying my buffs. Being a bear tank is fun
>>583937607Enhance shaman is so fun for this
>>583937561And they are adding more endgame content? The whole roadmap is full of endgame content in fact. So what the fuck is your problem you fucking retard? Did you seriously go in to a level-locked beta and complain that all the available content was for leveling? Is this really the smartest person you MUH CLASSIC+ niggers can provide?
>>583937607Idk I don't play either class. I just exclusively play woyer and sword specialization people with Ashkandi until they /afk out of the BG
>>583937646Leveling dungeons have precisely zero mechanical depth, they're a tutorial to teach people how to play their classes. Nobody who plays a game for the second or third or fourth time enjoys going through the tutorial missions again, so WHY the FUCK would you dedicate development time to making the tutorial missions longer?
>>583937190>make level 60 versions of some of the leveling dungeons>update drops to level 60 strength>add new drops to the dungeons>this will round out the drops so there should be something for each class>also dilutes the loot pool a bit more so people will be incentivized to run them more>add set bonuses to the drops with clear intentionsSo lets say you're a warrior and a 3 piece set bonus from the level 60 SFK gives 10% increase to block chance, but you'd be giving up some raw stats to get it. Or something like a 4 piece set bonus gives you a new ability to use that guarantees the next ability is a crit on a cooldown. Or caster gear that has some reduced stats but a chance to proc a double cast of a spell. Or set bonuses with defense to certain damage types. Optional builds that could lead to some shenanigans or ways to fill in gaps if you don't have your raid gear. They already have the dungeons, just reuse them with new drops for people to chase.
>>583937357I will rush 60 anyway and minmax the game>b-butdon't care
>>583937561If you want more end game shit slapped on for an infinite gear treadmill play retail. People like classic because of the leveling and the world which is why they added new leveling zones instead of end game zones and leveling dungeons you do a single time.
>>583937784you sit in CC 90% of the time but then randomly kill someone in 2 seconds
>>583930431>IsraelHe didn't say kikes
>>583937607The best premades always run more ranged than melee. Hunters, Warlocks, Mages and good Shadow Priests absolutely destroy anyone who even gets remotely close to them.
>>583937881Peak WoW will always be large battles like world pvp or alterac valley for this exact reason
>>583937887i feel like by naxx tier every class you mentioned just trinkets and kills rogue
>>583937561>>583937690Are they not literally doing that? Are you guys actually touched in the head?
>>583937761Priest
>>583937236Soon hopefully
>>583937962Two of the nine dungeons are for endgame. They're literally repeating the same fucking mistakes they made in Cataclysm, too much development time spent adding shit that nobody cares about (the leveling), too little spent on making the actual game.
>>583937607Rogue is boring. You just do the same stunlock combo to delete people.Enh is fun, you gamble with a big two hander and just delete everyone.Two handers are cooler then dual wielding, also people want you in raids unlike rogues so you can get free raid gear just for putting down your totems.
>>583936482this is the funniest wow cope i've ever seen. you are still mad about getting filtered years ago. which boss made you the laughing stock of your guild?
>>583937962>expecting brainrotten SoD and classicfags to process information the way a normal human wouldThey're either shitposting, desperate to be contrarian, or just low IQ. You won't get any interesting conversation out of them
>>583937847They need to stagger levels to 60 for faggots like you
>>583937956Good premades just stay split while grouped so they can't be aoed. As soon as a rogue appears or a warrior charges in with reck and sappers he gets blown up in 2 seconds.
Do people really not want to go to Outland at some point? As long as the level cap doesn't go up and they don't add flying mounts I don't see the problem
>>583937962This raidtard is throwing a fit because the devs arent just purely working on endgame content because the devs actually realize that most people who play WoW dont actually spend all their time raiding.
>>583937607rogue is the absolute worst class for group pvp
>>583938097Retard
>>583938137If Forever isn't for classic players, who is it for? Oh right. Retail trannies.
I'm convinced some people here just want to be made. Like I've seen them lose an argument and then just swap topics to something else until they lose that argument and swap agian. Like it's just a never ending parade of angry bullshit
>>583938097>nobody cares about (the leveling)Go back to retail faggot
Why do these rested xp sites keep getting taken down? Anyone have the new link for the cracked versions?
>>583938159Nah I dont really want space alien shit in my low fantasy game. TBC was the first step towards that.
>>583937956Rogue shits on all of those besides SL locks and really good spriestsThe problem with rogues (and why prems only take 1-2) is that they are EXTREMELY cooldown reliant. You are a god until you blow prep and then you're a gimped class for the next 10 minutes. This is why they get stuck playing defense in prema
>>583938159I dont want them to add a new map so everyone leaves the old map for killing the world. Org and Stormwind should be the capitals forever and not be replaced with some new gay capital.
>>583938131ty anonthis alone is making me go enhancehopefully they didnt overly balance them to be too spell focused
>>583938131I feel like Enhancement or Resto shaman for Alliance especially will be absolute cheat codes for free loot. You will get fully geared faster than anyone and you'll never lose your raid spot. The only problem is enhance might be meme tier and resto shaman is even more boring to play than holy paladin
>level 20ish arcane mage>4 arcane blast and almost oomlmao this shit sucks so hard why they have to recycle this shit spell
>>583938240I leave an argument when I realize the person wasn't actually willing to be convince or was just trolling. They probably think they 'won' when the replies stop.
Placing a level cap of 30 for the first month, followed by increments of 10 levels every 2 weeks. How much seethe would this cause to min max autist?
>>583938232>who is it for?People who wanted classic to be the vanilla experience only it was ruined by poopsockers (You) and thus they left almost immediately while parsetrannies (You) stayed behind to ratfuck that community until it was dead.
>>583938159What is Outland in your mind in this scenario? Is it draenei with spaceship bullshit? Is it Kael and Illidan being villans for no reason than we need villains there?I dont know if many people even remember this but TBC lore was a complete shitshow when released and the only reason it got ignored was because the game was growing so fucking fast
>>583933202Auto-attacks
>>583938240>>583938383Debate perverts. They don't care what they argue about only that they "win", so they have no problem changing their stance or position because they never cared about the stance to begin with. Ignoring them is the only way to deny them their jollies.
>>583938139no soddie level caps to save you this time shitterenjoy getting camped by your betters 30 levels above you
>>583938345I'm fine with them not adding SHITtrath again but there was something really cool about looking forward to getting a high level character so you could step through the dark portal into extremely hostile lands.
>>583938159Nope, in fact I think one of the first major 'unique updates' for Forever should be the destruction of the Dark Portal. Would be a great way to kick things off.
>>583938357>The only problem is enhance might be meme tierSims are showing enhanced is good, plus people will want enhanced even if they werent for raids to put in the melee group.
>>583938401Too long. Just do a few weekly caps. That should be enough to let relatively normal people keep pace.Week 1: 20Week 2: 40Week 3: 59
>>583938401I'm literally a 5 hour a week casual and i hate this shit so much
>>583938159tbc had difficult bosses where you could fuck up and cause a raid wipe. vanilla chuds don't want to be singled out. they want to live in an alternate reality where they are the best warrior on their server and no one can prove otherwise.
>THIS PRODUCT ISN'T FOR YOU, YOU FUCKING CHUD!!!!!!!
>>583938401Nah, I would much rather the mentally ill do their song and dance and rush to max level to "exploit" or "corner the AH" or get their "BiS gear for raids that I definitely need". That way I'll never have to interact with them and they'll hopefully get bored and fuck off before I even get there myself
>>583938440kael and illidan were antagonists in wc3.
>>583938535Any shaman spec can drop windfury in the melee group and there is no caster specific totem that Ele or Resto bring. Elemental is currently the worst dps in the game but all 3 shaman specs prevent you from having a good solo farm option if its your first character. You will rely on dungeon spam or outdoor herb/mine/skin contest
>>583935136You gotta forsaken it up a bit.>Greetings <class>.>As a newly arisen forsaken you will soon learn that every hand is now turned against us. Perhaps it is time, then, for you to learn to rely upon the skill of your own>Do you recall any trades you may have practiced back when you were still among the living? Speak to me again if so, orherwise, I'm sure the memories will return in time. Along with the hate>Go now, and know that your toils will serve the Dark Lady's cause
>>583938523I'm all for this. Not because I hate the orc homeland but I fucking hate the spacegoat shit that they turned it into
>>583938498>>583938383eventually thats what leads me to stop coming to certain threads at all
>>583938517>there was something really cool about looking forward to getting a high level character so you could step through the dark portal into extremely hostile lands.I'd argue that the opening of the Dark Portal was the coolest thing that ever happened in WoW. Unless you were there, you'll simply never understand that feeling of stepping through for the first time into the giant battle at the gate on the other side. Peak WoW
>griefing heckin removed>bad names heckin removed>boosts? heckin added!we did it reddit!
I was excited to be back to the real Horde and then blizzard added faggot elves again.
RMT is what enables raid logging. You can just buy all your consumes off the AH. If they really make it harder, autists will have to farm there consumes or farm gold to buy them.
what guild do i join for pvp horde
>Penance heal for 650hp! that's so OP>*casually heals for 1k every 15 sec*
>>583938918I can't wait for them to add the wowtoken and ingame pronouns and the pronoun change potion (only 15.99$ from the battlenet shop)!!!!
Nearly every change they have made for Forever has been strangely tailored to me. So I think they're unironically making it for me. >Druid main>Love camping>Love survival elements in games>Love when weather and torches matter in games>Wanted dungeons nerfed from day one
why didn't you stop it? now im forced to play this game instead of wow just to avoid some of the modern shit.
>>583938793>Any shaman spec can drop windfury in the melee groupIts not about the enh shaman dropping a better windfury, its about needing a shaman in the melee party and the melee party also gives each other melee buffs and enh is the better dps of shaman.Its about if you want to play enh, they will invite you just for your windfury and you won't be forced to swap to resto if you dont want too.
>>583938674mindbroken by troons
>>583939010DELETE THIS NOW
>>583938674even if there was any tranny that wanted to play this shitshow they would have all left when blizzard unbanned the chuds.
>>583938918How were boosts aided at all? You dont get EXP with a high level in party. And if its just for quests, thats way less than someone boosting would get after just 2 dungeon boost runs in classic.
>>583939010Druid is going to be so cozy but I can't decide if I want to go male or female night elf. The females animations are just so good and the male ones are so fucking bad lmao
>>583938918I know heckin is being used ironically but I can never take any post using it seriously even if its being used in ironyIf I ever see it used without irpny I think I will actually have a stroke
>>583939118Trannies are the real-world version of a zombie horde, they're objectively terrifying and they should be killed.
>rush through classic, get bored, complain>rush through sod, get bored, complain>tell everyone I'm rushing through Foreverhmm I wonder what might happen this time..
>>583939239Female Nelf is lame. They are the warriors/hunters/ priests of night elf society. Males are the Druids. Be a lore chad.
>>583939325>Doing boring things slowly will surely make them fun somehow
>nooo you cant post racism here>ctrl + f>same shit us posted 5 other times ITT>only my post gets deletedBlizzard needs to add a battleground where I can go out and hunt all the tranny janny players and murder them.
>>583939010they need it
>>583939325You rush through the game or you quit when you're level 27 and bored out of your fucking mind.
>>583939378>hmm is the problem that I find the game boring?>no no, it's that I'm simply playing it slowly that's all>THE GAME SUCKS BLIZZARD GIVE ME ANOTHER (another) FRESH CLASSIC+!!!
>>583939325>play through classic, get bored, complain>play through sod, get bored, complain>tell everyone I'm playing through Foreverhmm I wonder what might happen this time..
>>583939325but I didn't get bored in classicnot my fault people had some weird compulsion to keep up with me and my ilk and ruined the game for themselves in the process
Imagine if male night elves had the druid of the claw bodytype. Its like a elf dwarf hybrid, the biggest chad ever
>>583939479Retail is superior when it comes to actual gameplay and content. Thats why we need to have that kind of stuff in Forever but with the vanilla setting maintained.
>>583939357Dude the male night elf animation for casting is literally the worst in the game. I'll make a warrior or some other melee class for them but their spell animation is so bad
>>583939587>Elf>Chad
>>583939587Looks like a redditor who hires a tranny polycule to babysit his children.
>>583939605Actual worst take I've read so far in the thread, well done.
>Arcane Blast>175%-700% mana cost increase>10% dmgpathetic 10%-40% dmg for 1 spell is not worth that much mana
>>583939610the only spell you will be casting as a male nelf druid is WRATH. You barely would ever use wrath past lvl 10 and their healing animation is dope. Also, if you DO go balance, you use the boomkin animation so you will never see their forehead cast.
>>583939605Go play retail then.
>>583939325>rush through sodnobody did this, everyone quit because it was shit
>>583939621>t. didn't play warcraftwow is what made them into gay little hippies
>>583939283Unironically touch grass retard. The boogeyman isn't real
>>583939605golem get ye gone
>>583939605>maze+ spam and raid bosses that take hundreds of pulls to kill are great designYou are more retarded than all the assman drones in this thread combined
>>583939325I WILL rush through forever then beg for fresh servers in 4 months time
>>583939587i hate how stupid easy it would be to just give male night elves and male humans long beards to fit the fantasy of TWO of their most iconic classes from wc3, wizard beard mage and big malfurion beard druid. Its so annoying. Just copy paste a dwarf beard over like they did with hair styles.
>>583939721can't i have a retail that is not invested up to the gills with gay lame shit? I'm not asking for the world here.
>>583939718Oh wait true. Thanks yeah I'm being retarded for some reason I'm just picturing them casting wrath like that and going 'nah' but I'll be boomkin
>>583939652Yes an absolute retard spouting "tranny" and "redditor" would be seeing the druid of the claw model for the first time, checks out you know nothing of this game
Can someone whos in the "i gotta rush to 60" crowd tell me why he wants to do this when forevers endgame is NOT just raiding?
>>583939769based monogamer WoWtard
SoD was absolutely garbage. What exactly did this add besides BFD? After I ran that I quit because nothing else was added
What is the least popular class in the beta? That's what I'll play.
>>583939959Easy. He wants to bitch there is nothing to do. This is the "tiggle biddies" everquest issue 30 years later
>>583939721No I want retail gameplay but with the perfect vanilla setting and lore
>>583939760He's right tho. Retail always had better actual gameplay. Vanilla had the setting and lore (and walking)
>>583939652Anon when this sort of thing is the first thing that comes to your mind, I worry about your information diet.
>>583940013I'd bet Mages right now
>>583940013Mages are hard to find for me.
>>583940013mage or warlock from what I could see but beta isnt a good test since a lot of people are rolling the new options just to try them out, I wouldnt expect anywhere near the same amount of dwarf shamans on live for example
>>583939325>>rush through sodYou could not do this with way phases were structured.
>>583940013Hands down shaman. Unless dwarf shaman isn't being inflated like i think it is on the beta, then its lock
>>583939749>Tree huggers>Let women run their societyNahThey were pussies even back then and only existed to be ryona fodder for their orc masters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMhgBOEQqqolol
>>583940214>Hands down shamanyou're smoking crack
How representative of general forever population does anon think this general is? I'm in the bitter oldfag bucket and surprised how many faggots and vanilla-philosophy-needs-to-be-adjusted-to-retail-values types are posting here. >pic unrelated
I'm going to play a Male Skyborne Restoration ShamanOr maybe a Druid, we'll see how it shakes out, but certainly eventually both
>>583939605>Retail is superior when it comes to actual gameplayYEAH BRO, I LOVE RUNNING AROUND THE GIANT GLOWING SHIT ON THE GROUND WHILE I HOLD MY AUTO COMBO BUTTON!!! THIS GAMEPLAY IS FIRE!!!OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE, DID YOU SEE HOW MUCH OF A GIRL BOSS ZUL'JARA IS AND HOW MUCH OF A LE EVIL CHUD HER BROTHER IS!?! IM SO GLAD HE DIED AND ZUL'JARA IS GOING TO BE IN A LESBIAN RELATIONSHIP WITH HER BLOOD ELF GIRLFRIEND TO UNITE THE AMANI AND BLOOD ELFS SO THEY STOP FIGHTING OVER THEIR PAST EVIL CHUD MALE LEADERS!!!SO HECKIN' BASED!!!
>play retail (shadowlands) >get bored get bored in first raid tier>play era (2019)>get bored in MC>play SoD (phase 3)>get bored>play WoWF beta>already boredI was having fun but honestly these blizzard balance changes really take me out of the game. I can't invest time leveling and playing something just for some tranny dev to decide to erase it from the game overnight.
>>583940224It was a take on the amazonian thing you retard>>583940148Mage has to be popular on release. ice mage is absurdly fun in pvp and fire in pve and leveling is cozy as hell with food and portals and class quests >>583940303I'm assuming you're going alliance
>>58394032790% of your post was not gameplay related and just agreeing with anon about the lore being bad
>>583940361>>already boredyou need to reset your dopamine receptor adhd faggot
>>583939757They will literally kick down bathroom stall doors to assault the women and children inside. The thing that never happens keeps happening.
>>583940303nta but shaman are pretty dead on alliance since no one wants to be a dwarf shaman, shaman are obviously popular on the hordes side
>>583940013I see the fewest warlocks, then probably mages. Hunter, rogue, and druid are the most common.
>>583940361Methinks you dont like WoW or the genre. Go play something else.
>>583940013Mage on Horde and Shaman on Alliance
Warrior is just the most engaging class in the game because you are so bad early you have to be engaged in the game and get as much value as you can from small things like timing your attack with a hamstring kited mob etc. then you get strong and smash. peak character progression. as much as i love locks i just feel like i play wow easy mode and not notice the game on 100%
>>583940013>hunters are everywhere and will be everywhere in live>paladins are everwhere and will be everywhere in live>mages are mia in beta but i think there will be more in live>druids are much more popular in beta but i think will fall off since not everyone will have sky elves in live and people are playing them to see the new forms in beta>shamans are popular, dwarf shaman will fall off in actual live>warlocks are not so popular and wont be popular in live>rogues are much more rare than in classic 2019 or real vanilla>warriors are about the same>priests are average on alliance, kinda rare on horde due to undead paladins stealing their thunder.
>>583939959because the endgame of wow is either mountsmogscheevos (not the focus of classic/forever) or getting a gear advantage over other players (rushing to 60)
>>583940361Trannies and jews belong in the oven, but all of this is a you problem. You just suck, is all
>>583940013As always, its Warlock, the gigachad niche class
>>583940423NTA but retail gameplay is so bad that they literally added the single button function because most people don't want to deal with their convoluted piano sessions whenever they want to perform a basic rotation, on top of that they increased the mechanical difficulty of enemies a lot too, so they double-dipped in the complexity and its what has ultimately wiped out the entire raiding scene except for the RWF poopsockers and the m+ troons (both of which are at an all time low).
>>583940423Sorry, here let me fix that for you.>Retail is superior when it comes to actual gameplay AND CONTENT.Story is content and a major part of retail wow.
>>583940565Why would rogues be more rare when the dev team just committing to making them the highest dps class? If anything a lot of warriors will probably reroll to chase the meta.
>>583940612I had 99 parses in SoD, era, and was top 100 M+ scores on raider io for retail. The game just loses me when blizzard nukes my character into irrelevancy, or forces me to play stupid shit like melee weaving.
>>583940013https://classicplus.io/I think mage/priest will be way more played on live, theyve always been top 5 most played. Lock will sink lower and lower, i actually think a lot of people will roll one and reroll before 20.
>>583934781>I think you're mixing your slop lore that came later in again.Warcraft 3? Ruling an undead Azeroth and spiting the Legion has been Nerzhul's goal from day 1, tourist.
never played assassin rogue pveis it fun?
>>583940656>ai slop metricsokay tranny, set it to 21-30 and see what happens
>>583940679No, content is the amount and design of things like dungeons and raids and their mechanical complexity. M+ was unironically the best thing to happen to WoW, although the key system is a bit toxic.
>>583940361Same, i always have fun until the 2nd raid tier. The gameplay loop is just boring unless you're no lifing multiple alts or grinding pvp.
>>583940939Stupid gorilla brain
>>583940856i think the stigma of anti rogue invites will stick harder this time around. Flexible classes will be more popular because people will want to find groups fast and if they do make it to raiding, raid spots fast
>>583940895This cant be true. The pvp server says its mostly alliance when horde has been locked out from how many people have been making horde.
