>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.Previous Thread >>584396272
nerf dwarves
>>584461513buff dwarves
Damn, I was just about to make a Mageweave Edition thread.
>streamers are "backing out" of the tourney now due to "personal irl issues"LolLmaoGet fucked RMTrannies. Your heroes are finally showing their fear.
i love how i bot the collecters edition and its not coming till febraury so i wont be able to reserve a name or play my favorite race isnt that neat?
>>584461612>he bottered
>>584461247Yeah I didn't play for a week now I think
>>584461571It would be funny if the streamers were entitled manchildren who wouldn't know basic game design if it donated $100 on stream.>>584461612Just buy it again, paypiggy.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
First rule of Mages, we do not talk about Mages.Because Mages are fine and require no changes.
how i play demo whorelock in dungeon? succubus or imp? do i use or ignore demonic brand?
>>584461562I should start doing this as well
>>584461807you aint never gettin that aoe back boy
Reposting for the Lorelet retard who should stick to slow, dumbed down forever “lore”Nah you continue to be the lorelet retard, the old gods see all points at once, Nzoth and Illgynoth literally tell you what happens after they “die”, they cant see their own demises yet see past it?!?!?! Listen he escaped in the dagger, you can see him go into it and Wrathion smirk when he does. If you cant put 2 and 2 together thats you being retarded, I cant help that.
WoW forever? more like WoW Temporary KEKW
>>584461821You use your voidwalker and have it taunt everything, and make sure it's on aggressive. Don't let your group be a bunch of pansies who skip packs.
>>584461738well i was just gonna sell it for 2x what i bought'd it for so thats probably a good idea but i dont think i was gonna buy any of the special editions funnily enough haha
>>584461914> hearthshitemobile slop for gambling addicts
>>584461783
expanded old gods in forever yes or no
>>584461807Oh Mages absolutely need changes. Ice Block should last half its duration and Ice Lance need its damage cut in half and its mana cost doubled.Bouncing around like a retard spamming ice lance should be punished, not rewarded.
>>584461914>>584462129nah, fuck off
>>584462129Expand your axe wound with a dilator you retarded faggot
>>584462129Nah. I want more regional, low stakes additions. No more gods, space aliens, robots, eldritch beings, etc.
They couldn't write a narrative like Stalvan today I tell you what. They wouldn't be able to let the narrative breathe and let you come to a good conclusion just from picking up the pieces of the story years after the fact. They'd have to make it really in your face.
>>584462021It has cool art sometimes
When someone tells me I need to micro my pet, what the hell do they mean?
>>584462129No, old gods are boring as shit.
>>584462129even in a fantasy world filled with magic and unreal this thing would be too stupid and retarded to exist
>>584462198true that.
>>584462246Turn off growl and put it on passive/defensive so it stop pulling shit
>>584462246They mean you need to put a microchip in it so if it runs away you'll be able to find it. :) Hope this helps!
>>584462246No idea. I would assume that stands for micromanage your pet? Like make sure you have it under control and it doesn't just randomly pull shit
>>584461384i mean if youre not motivated to play launch why be here lol. i'm excited to play but god only a level 30 cap and progress being wiped eh
>>584462246Put your cat in the microwave, its clearly cold.micromanage your pet, move it manually etc. dont let it retard pull the whole room
>>584462189C'thun was in vanilla thobeit
>>584462307>>584462286>>584462189>>584462173>>584462172damn, tough crowdaight i wont talk about old gods, jeez
>>584462129i remember thinking they were cool a long time ago but i think blizzard fucked it up so i don't care about them anymore
>Gnome sumata
3 days until snutz win
>>584462515And was a mistake
what class should i play for femtauren
>namedropping randoms like we're just supposed to know who they are
>>584462646see>>584459623
>>584462314Horley has always been their best artist. He understands the Warcraft style
>>584462528
Millions of parents name their children Alex, aka Alexensual.
can you raid with a pug? how does drops work in that case? I want to raid as much as I can with a guild but also with pugs when the guild is offline
>>584462752>>584461571
>>584462246If in a dungeon? Turn off aggressive behavior so it doesn't pull stuff and position yourself better. If in PvP it means to pull back your pet if someone starts killing it while running away from you.
>>584462883you cant do both, one raid a week
>>584462646>he doesn't know
>>584462193ive done that quest 50 times and never read a single line of dialogue lol
he's posting children again
One time on a classic WoW server like right after they launched I was playing a druid and questing in Hillsbrad and some random guy messaged me and asked me to heal BFD, I told him no thanks and he immediately said he looked me up and I was shit so he didn't want me anyway, and I sarcastically replied "How" and he said "someone you know, someone close."
>>584462189>godsRagnaros is literally in the very first raid in niller.>space aliensKazzak.>robotsOssirian.>eldritch beingsHakkar.
>you can get Decimation at level 26>you get Soul Fire at level 48
Every post on WoW Forums.>I'm a hybrid and I should do as much damage as a pure DPS!>Shaman Elemental should do as much damage as a mage!>Shaman Enhancement shouldn't lose windfury if they put a windfury totem!>Cat Druid should do as much damage as a Rogue!So stupid. If you do as much damage as a pure class, then Blizzard adjusts your class to lose your utility. Look at retail. Enhancement in retail can't do anything interesting. If you want to do high damage, play a pure DPS. If you want utility/the ability to support your group, play a hybrid. You should look at Shaman as like a Bard with the totems. That's your purpose is to provide buffs to your group. Everything else is a bonus. If you play a Cat Druid, you are a flex role that can help heal/tank in difficult fights or if a group member dies. Ret Pallys should be cleansing and tossing heals when the healer is struggling.
>>584462246What I do is >mouse wheel up defensive>mouse wheel down passive>shift mouse wheel up aggressive>shift mouse wheel down to stay in place>macro whatever cooldown I want it to use at a certain time and turn off the auto cast on it; instead of spamming it off cooldown like pets do when you set it to auto castHope this helps
>>584463083but i want survivability and easy farming too
>>584462883>can youYes.>will it be goodIf they're actually making the raids a literally free mouthbreather friendly theme park then it'll be fine.Otherwise:>how does drops workSince there is no GDKP to structure around they will roll on items and then the tank and healer leave after first boss when their item didn't drop and the raid disbands.
>>584462770yep, he is the literal goat when it comes to wow art
>>584463083ele provides zero buffs that resto couldnt apply. They should add totem of wrath for ele atleast as well as make it not completely worthless whilst levelling is all like rn there is no reason to put a single point into ele and people are actually considering levelling as resto cause of how bad ele is
goblin whores
is it worth playing through any given version of wow more than one time? i genuinely don't see the point. and since wow is technically endless to some extent doesn't it mean you don't even really have to?
>>584463247That's why the items are rolled at the end lil brown parsing gupta~
>>584462129nothing direct, more only vague mentions of them completely proxied thru groups like silithid and twilight hammer and myth at most
i miss era
>>584463409I would be fine with Totem of Wrath.
I can’t wait for the boar raid, it’ll be heccin based and low stakes and gritty and really make the players feel like murderhobos.
ERA IS THRIVING
>>584463662You jest but I'd pogface over some generic raid where we just fight a bunch of tribal bandits and shit.
>>584463662mankriks wife last boss, the boar broodmother
>>584463662turdle did that and you all clapped
>>584463730Your Zul’gurub trash runs, sire?
Why is Whitemane like this?https://files.catbox.moe/ztfcz4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ztfcz4.png>>584462129People are mad but like, forlo takes place where all the big names are still around.could easily just have a raid where we're taking care of the fodder while bigger things happen behind the scenesdon't need some marvelslop tier cinematic shit for it either.
>>584462774stoking
>>584463083I don't really get this "hybrid vs. pure" argument for WoW. It's not fucking EverQuest, it's not like hybrid classes function fundamentally differently than pure classes, they all just output damage, healing, and some CC and buffs. It's not like they're factoring in downtime, xp modifiers, buffs (WoW buffs barely do anything compared to older MMOs), or stuff like mezzing or w/e. Your MMO is not interesting or dynamic enough to justify a distinction between hybrid and pure
>>584463796You can spam dungos with friends. It just isnt the meta way to level. Do you only like dungos when its meta exp and the best gear?
>30s to sell my trash to NPCgr8 maintenance m8
>>584463764Turtle fundamentally misunderstood WoW. It’s a power fantasy. Cool dudes doing heroic deeds.
>>584463195How do you zoom in and out your camera?
>>584463884grinding random boars in the open world gives 5x the experience as elite mobs in a dungeon
>>584463796>what do you mean im not allowed to pay a bot run by a third worlder to skip as much of the game as I possibly can???>my only other option is to buy a cluster of addons that turns the game into a hyper optimized walking simulator that lets me skip as much of the game as I possibly can???I cannot wait for whatever catastrophe is coming that removes these people from the internet. Im sick of seeing them.
>>584463942(vanilla)wow was created for heterosexual white menturdie was created for brazilian trannys
>>584463998Then do dungeons for gear and boars for exp. Its bad game design for one activity to be the best at both.
>>584463742>haha the joke is bestialitywhy are trannies like this?
>>584462774Damn gnomes are pure sex
>want to duel xaryu>my layer is dead>get an invite from someone i saw on his stream>duel him and win, but won in a kind of shitty way where his hound broke sheep on me so wanted to duel him again>dude invites someone else>we both get layered to the new member's layer, which is different from my first layer but just as dead as my original layer>i leave group sad>get layered to a 4th completely different layer which is also deadThis is so awful. It's not as noticeable when you are just questing on your own, but as soon as you want to find someone or go pvp some Horde in a Horde zone, you just get layer diceroll bullshit.The only way to ensure good layers is just joining the guild with the best players on the server, since the system seems to prioritize layering guildies, friends, and recent allies together.
>>584463435>why run after the cake in front of the treadmill if you're trying to lose weight?
>>584463884>Mob gives 30xp>Go to hyper spawn with the gaaaang>Mob gives 300xp and deals zero damage, so much aoe going out that even with 5 other groups we can't stop killing mobsSheesh zesty westttyyy slowie pony troony gun be mad fr fr skullmojiii chat
>>584464116okay good luck finding a tank and healer then
>>584463991How often do you really need to zoom? I only do it for screenshots, so I just have the standard secondary keybinds the camera uses (pageup and pagedown)
>>584463862A Rogue isn't putting down totems & casting heals & providing buffs & casting Res for the group. They're just doing damage. A Shaman can do all that, thus they deal less damage. That's the tradeoff. It's very simple to understand.
>paying to get boosted by chinks: bad>buying niggerxp to level for me: good
>>584464224Sounds like oldschool mmo game design to me, you do this exact thing in EverQuest.
>>584464272Im going to play tank/healer and run dungeons quite a few times because im not a sociopath nor a speedrunner.
>>584464116Except if that something is questerinos
>>584464286Very often in cramped spaced as a Tauren
>>584464224Sooo.....basically how mmos were in that era?
>>584464347These types ask for no changes and call it "retail" when anything is changed, but then support changing dungeons because they're anti-social losers who are jealous that other people have friends and want to level in dungeons.
>>584463796aggrend is at least two times fatter than that drawing
>>584464153????
>>584464308>paying blizzard to get boosted instantly: need
>>584464389Huh? Questing gear sucks compared to dungeons. Its always worth doing dungeons at least once-twice for their unique quests+gear.
>>584464347Same. If I miss a drop or two that im after ill rerun dungeons.It is my greatest wish that all the speed niggers burn themselves out before they even get to 60 and quit. Theyve been a BANE? on this game since the private server days.
>>584464347>I'm griefing myself that means in a BETTER HUMAN this time ILL TOTES GRIEF MYSELFLol stream your journey cuck.
RestedXP is worthless when Questie exists and is free.
Ive always quested primarily, with dungeons being something I do>If I have quests for them>If I need gear from them>If friends wanna run oneIs this unusual?
>>584464447This change is in the spirit of vanilla. The original devs flat out said they made a mistake by making dungeons too lucrative for leveling. I feel like if vanilla had continued they would have nerfed dungeon EXP too.
hmmm will never get bored and enjoy looking at this sight... FOREVER
>>584463195insanity, honestlypetattack on scroll uppetfollow on scroll down>>584463991just do shift or ctrl to zoom
>>584464620Well, I think it's in the spirit of vanilla to turn every NPC into a black woman named Lakeesha because I feel like if vanilla had continued they would've done that.
>>584464526except restedxp isnt telling me to pick up or hand in quests that dont exist
>>584464521>Bro says someone is 'griefing themself' if they do something fun but suboptimalYou've completely lost the plot
You can literally make your Skelf look like a high elf why do people still want high elves I genuinely do not understand
>>584464526more like Questie is worthless when RestedXP exists and can be downloaded for free
I'm afraid I will play this game... forever.
>>584464620The actual continuation of vanilla has you grind dungeons to 70 so you can go and do the quests for gold for your flying mount.
>>584464687>petattack on scroll upthiswho the fuck scrolls their finger towards a monster and thinks>yeah, defend me
>>584464526RextedXP is aa guide that tells you what quest to do and when for fastest XP and points you to the locations directly. Questie is just a quest log that shows where to pick up quest.
>>584464521Everyone always says they'll totes do the unviable/worse thing, but then never post the receipts.It's always the same shit.
>>584464818Are you so low IQ that you can’t make your own "guide" on the fly?
>>584464732They just hate the implication that their race is tied to made up lore. You can pretend to be a normal helf, but deep down you know you arent one.
>>584464725Post the receipts.Post your journey.Or keep posting lying cope, cuck.
>>584464587 depends on the dungeon desu>rfk>gnomer>uldaman>sti never do these dungeons while leveling
>>584464732because sky elves are retardedand i wanted forsaken elves on horde
>>584464948Skelves are literally just high elves that trained in a certain magic in a certain place. Most of them dont even have the blue skin. You people act like they're comparing a troll to a tauren.
>>584464948You are one though, highborne are high elves and skyborne are highborne.
You either die serving the light or live long enough to embrace the darkness
>>584464526>hahaha questie sucks restedxp is faster lol you're just mad and poor and you suck and I bet your raider.io is low and your m+ rank sucks and your gearscore is bad haha loser>blizzard this game sucks theres nothing to do i intentionally skipped as much as I possibly could this is all your fault your game sucks thats why I skip everything I hate you and hate your game make your game for me specifically you have to cater to me at all times I want to start at max level and play for 90 minutes a week and raid log and buy gold and pay third worlders to do everything for me you have to make this game cater to my needs
>>584465025This, honestly the only blue elvees i've really seen are players, most of the NPC's are black.
whats blud yappin about
>>584465007gnomer is a banger as alliance, loads of quests + prebis legs if you are agility enjoyerulda too, really, but it requires a little setup if you wanna get full value. but just getting the discs with the tanaris followup makes it worth it in almost any case
>>584465007But ST has great class quest rewards and the fights are fun.Not to mention the quests start to run dry from level 50.
>>584462001Why is the guy green?
>>584465356He didn't take a shower in weeks.It's mold.
>>584465420Asmonmold?
>i have no friends and i get angry when i see other people doing dungeons and leveling so i seethe and demand that they collect bear asses in the world with me
Kek the boost seller is still seething.
>>584465526kill 50 wolves collect 75 hides is just so peak you don't get it
>>584465526I quest with my friends and do dungeons with my friends.
>haha what do you mean you dont pay a third worlder to skip as much of the game as possible lmao you dont have any friends and youre probably poor and stinky lol>me? Of course I play alone or with exclusively complete strangers that let me buy gear from them for money but im gonna call them my friends because that lets me act like im better than you>Ranjresh just messaged me and told me I have to get on to finish the rep grind I paid him 7 rubles and a fresh shit to do for me>then Xianpao has his gdkp later with a bunch of people I never spoke to, his bot just sent me a reminder so I get to do that>God im so good at this game
No amount of whining will change it now. You lost. Now do your quests and run your dungeons one time or just dont play.
I'm going to need to do all the dungeons for legacy points, right? Can I even really do any questing if I'm jumping into dungeons constantly and getting over a level from each one? After hitting level 15 it looks like I can get to over level 20 just from dungeons and then be back into dungeons after like a level or two of questing
>Leveling alone>WF on weapon>still puts WF totem downAre all Shamans this stupid
>>584465250yeah, but it stinks>>584465251it is a lot more worthwhile after they add the class quests. i never need it for xp tho. i always do it after i hit 60. same for mara most of the time
>>584465928>I'm going to need to do all the dungeons for legacy points, right?no
You can cross faction chat now in Darnassian if your sky elf/nelf?
>>584465598>>584465886Nobody is saying boosts should be allowed you mentally ill troglodyte. They solved that with making it so you don't get XP if you're grouped with a high level.
>>584465928restedxp already factors all this in
>9 new dungeonsOk but I'm never going to be able to play any of them because we don't have a dungeon finder
>>584466002yes
>>584465941that's for the stealthed rogue idiot
Do gnome tanks have aura?
>>584462774i wish latia would rp as child
>>584466002Yes. Hunters can also rename their pets without a limit, so hunters can communicate via pet names.
I still don't get the 140fps "joke"
>>584466007Then you should be perfectly fine with running a dungeon just a time or two and then getting back into the actual world.There will be plenty of dungeon farming for prebis at 60. But that isnt what youre mad about.Youre mad you cant get boosted by a third worlder anymore.
does the barber function the same way it does in the beta in every version of the game now (letting you change every feature of your chosen race) or no? last i played you had to pay for an appearance change for like everything but hair>>584466002somebody on forums claimed they tried nelf darnassian to skelves and it didn't work, it definitely works skelf to skelf though
>>584466210mfw missed the origin of the joke so now will never know what it means
>>584466181They can have aura deez nuts.
>>584466181No, they can't be paladins.
>>584465994Looks like about every dungeon to me
>>584466279No, I'm mad because I play a healer and I just want to level as a heal spec and level mostly in dungeons. Open world play isn't fun if you're spec'd for healing. I want to play the game as it is supposed to be played, but you types want the game changed because you are friendless virgins.
>>584466279bro just go collect mounts in retail or something. sounds like that's something you'd like.
The overwhelming majority of people dont exclusively do one or the other but both sides are basing the entirety of their arguments on that assumption
>>584466181Female gnomes have a sex sex aura if that's what you mean
>>584466359But warors
>>584466386so alli just has to do rol, wc, and sfk that have basically no quests NEAT
>>584466386legacy points are gonna be capped, you dont need to 100% it
Whole lot of yappin going on today
>>584466210>>584466356It was just a schizo forcing a meme
>>584466409>still lyingYoure such a transparent niggerfaggot its unreal. Go play Era or Retail you fucking worthless RMTranny. Youre mad you cant pay a third worlder to do everything for you and everyone knows it.
>>584466007Boosting is more than just paying a high level to level you. Spellcleave is boosting. Spamming dungeons in of itself is boosting.
Hardcore PvP when?Whit some red*it protection where you can only engage in combat in a given level range.
well at this point i dont even want the beta, whats it come out in 2, 3 days? i dont even give a rat's ass now
>>584462129expanded qiraji, sureI don't just want purple void old god madness stuff though, I want QIRAJI stuff specifically. expand on their civilization.
>>584466210https://files.catbox.moe/invu8p.mp3
>>584466507only at first, devs have said eventually we'll be able to pick up all of the legacy talents
>>584466156Bro just open a map and find the dungeon that way use your legs
>>584466507I have to collect them all
>>584466156You can do them for two months after launch chuddite
>>584466647this is a pretty cool song, who is this oingo boingo?
Forever warriors should be able to wear two two-handed weapons.
>>584466443>boostniggers are leftistsAlways suspected.
>>584466602This.Get ahead of me? Boosting.Play better than me? Boosting.Get items before I do? Boost. Ing.
>>584463083now there is some shaman cuck trying to convince people air is better than windfury because he does not want to put down windfury since he does not benefit from it
>>584466795i have been doomscrolling twitter lately for some reason and i fucking hate this guy. i should really stop browsing that site, it is all soulless freaks and NPCs including this faggot, and me apparently.
looking at the data it looks like dwarf shamans will be in the highest demand
>>584466181gnome lolis are best. Only problem is they make me horny so its hard to focus
>>584466496RoL has few quests with really nice rewards too.SFK has Arugal must Die?WC has the deviate quests. Certainly not 2 levels worth of XP but a good chunk as you get some gear too.
>>584466925he's a subversive kike btw
>>584466386*Rushes to 60**Walks into all sub 40 dungies**Rapes them*Slowie da cucky?
Should I level my priest in disc spec still or just go shadow and heal dungeons in shadow spec?
BLAME DA VOODOO MAN
>>584464076>least dishonest poster keeps thinking lvl 60 boosting which is a solved issue already is the same as normal dudes doing dungeons at intended level
>>584466386If alliance needs to do SFK, RoL, and WC horde should need to do stockades.
>>584466602>oh yeah hahaha well look at this i changed the definition of a word. Bet you feel pretty silly now huh?>your only way to recover is to let me pay a browntoid to skip the entire game so I can raidlog and bitch about there being nothing to do
wow forever should add cute little girls I think
>>584467113if they give rank 1 penance some damage back disc might not be completely miserable to quest in but i'm not counting on it
>>584466634Aren't the Qiraji just drones being manipulated by C'thun?
>>584467113shadow
>>584467323Your gnomes?
>>584464334EQ is like, exploit MOBs thru walls for 15 hours straight to gain one level.
>>584467323agree. Sexy lolis would sell instantly. Everyone loves little loli cuties but is afraid to admit it
>>584467113you should get the wand talent and wand
>>584467376those are the silithidqiraji can speak and are the guys like Sartura, Rajaxx, Skeram or the Twin Emperors
>>584467323fat dadgamers and troons would burn blizzard hq down if they ever tried it
>>584467113Only talent that matters before Shadowform for your leveling is Wand Spec.
>>584466659ye but there will be way more possible points to aquire than you can ever spend
>>584467323You know back in 2010 I would have agreed but nowadays they are magnets for trans people and other similarly hateful and depraved groups so better not.
>>584467643nothing wrong with lewding them. It is fiction
>>584467376some qiraji are drones but the more humanoid ones are intelligent and have built a sophisticated caste-based society within the temple complexthey actually wear clothes and stuff if you look closely
>>584466592NTA, but kill boosters, pajeets, and indos and let us have dungeon XP back.
>>584467743theres some fuckery going on in AQ, I mean bigger than the usualsome of the bugs look like mutated humans or humans that grew bug appendages/limbs
>>584464686somalia looking pants
Is arms warrior looking competitive in pve? Or will it just all be fury faggotry yet again?
>>584467113go wand spec into spirit tap and longer swpthen fill disc until you're 40 then respec shadowconsider dual spec at 40 (if its available then), you're gonna start to suffer trying to heal higher lvl dungeons without at least meditation
>>584467326>I want my death beam that can do half someones hp in 1 cast or full heal myself in 1 cast for next to no mana back wahhhhhhhI hope they nerf penance more.
>>584465084whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore whore
>>584467743WE SPAN THE UNIVERSE
>>584467557>hit chance>two extra ticks on swp>mind flay>cd reduction on mb>vamp embrace>10% shadow damage>devouring plague mana cost reduction and jumps on death>10% shadow damageI'd say there are a fair few talents that are pretty useful for leveling before shadowform
>>584467907Dungeon up went away because of boosters, parents and indos as well as lazy players who just want to pay to skip entire games then claim they "beat" them
>>584468032i just want it to do more damage than wanding sis, i'm not asking for it to be a 12s cd loh again
>>584468181barely does anythingnot worth using mind flay early
what if redmane
>>584468032Why do holy paladins get holy shock that deals more dps than pre-nerf penance?
>>584468284retard
>>584468205Its a heal first you dumb fucking nigger. You hear Paladins complaining about Holy Shock not doing enough damage?
>>584468325blondemane
>>58446794620+ years later and scrubs are still trying to force their way into raids as fucking arms.Only if you also have a good tank set and switch specs several times each raid at great personal gold cost. And no. Arms will be below every actual DPS class and spec.
>>584468340yeah you're a retard
>>584468325good point
>>584468284Even if mind flay is shit, I'm sure it's still stronger than wanding so you can trade mana for higher dps when needed
>>584468348>Its a heal first it heals for nothing now thoughie?>You hear Paladins complaining about Holy Shock not doing enough damage?no because holy shock does actual damage
>>584467921Honestly going the edgy grimdark route with AQ would be kino.Insects are fucking scary. Talking insects doing whatever the fuck in some huge city and dungeon of insects serving some eldritch horror even more so.
>>584468325then you'd fully need to invert it, white armor, etc
>>584468330>reee nooooo I deserve to have my special beam cannon to kill anyone I want for zero cost while being unkillable thats my power fantasy reeeee
>>584468540>reee nooooo I deserve to have my special shock cannon to kill anyone I want for zero cost while being unkillable thats my power fantasy reeeee
Huge patch tomorrow, what are you hoping for?>“shatter curse has been removed”
>>584468512but then she's out of uniform
really solid arguments guys keep em coming
>>584468441Sounds as fucking gay as ever.
>>584468540>noooooooo priests shouldn't be able to beat anyone that's my power fantasy :(((((((
>>584468490uh maybe with the imp mindflay talentbut now you can wand while moving so wanding is still better
>>584468325nah redhair is dumb and only bpd foids have red hair
I'm just happy to get in a guild and start drama amongst the plebs. I singlehandedly killed 3 guilds in Classic rerelease and TBC. Forever will be fun.
>holy shock damage is fine>meanwhile shockadin is top tier dps
>>584468626berserking now lasts 15 seconds
Is beta really ending next week? But there's still so much time since release...
>>584465025>>584465052Highborne = Night Elf nobility caste during Azshara's empire, esteemed practicioners of Arcane magic.High Elves = Highborne from the capital after Azshara's melty that split the continent. These Highborne were told not to keep practicing their big dick Arcane magic, so they had a melty and made a big dick Arcane storm, which causes Malfurion+Tyrande to exile them. These Highborne sailed across the sea, landed on Eastern Kingdom shores, found Tirisfal to be creepy as fuck, and settled Quel'thalas. THESE are what 90% of the lore and players understand to be High Elves, as that is what they have been known as out-and-in-setting since like Warcraft 2.Skyborne = Highborne+Night Elf peasantry who were located in what is now Dire Maul when Azshara had her melty. Of the Highborne here, Prince T. (the final boss of Dire Maul West, who loves hardcore servers) had the idea of summoning demons and snorting Fel crack to replace the lost Well of Eternity, and the proto-Skyborne thought this idea was retarded as fuck. The proto-Skyborne protested demon summoning with murder, then fled Dire Maul to the western sea, struck a pact with an island of Air Elementals, and ascended to the Elemental Plane of Air to live isolated with the Air Elementals, secret from Al'Akir's factions, for 10,000+ years, until 3-5ish years prior to game start, when the Air Elementals disappeared and the skylands started crumbling back down to Azeroth.tl;dr - Skelfies are not High Elves, Skelfies were Highborne+Peasants, High Elves were Highborne, but not all Highborne became High Elves.
>>584468427I want Whitemane to dom Paletress and titmog her
>>584468626remove cultivation and find treasure
Is druid the only class with brez?
>>584468742have any tips? sounds fun
>>584468642it's her special uniform
>>584468706Didn't they fix that wanding bug?
Holy fuck Retail's story is embarrassing, no wonder Metzen fled to the Forlo team.
>>584468912no
>>584468441Don't doubt fury will stay ahead but you metafaggots are actually getting into position to just ritualquote classic situations even if they have 0 relevance to reality in forever and no source to back it up, aren't you?
>>584463068are you telling me you don't have shadow bolt and searing pain at level 26? Absolute idiot
>>584468935Metzen wrote the world soul saga btwAnd skytroons
>>584468626>removed ice lanceice lance doesn't belong in a slow paced game like classic, it will always be too strong in pvp and nerfing it makes it bad in pve.
>>584468912not yet, nothey have stated it is a bug and that they are working on it though
<Damage Control>....home...
what the fuck is wrack
>>584468325Can you help me. I dont do the AI stuff but can you get me a dark brown hairmane version of this?
>>584468803Thank you loreGOD, I kneel
>>584469003>>584469096Then it's probably getting fixed before launch so mind flay is good
>>584469079I don't think he has had any real writing contributions for the retail story other than like the basic setup for the narrative. Whoever is actually in charge of the Xalatath shit is obviously bungling it.
>>584469079>Metzen wrote the world soul saga btwSource?
will horde have the better pve players still?
>>584468803skelf with white skin = high elf
so i need to tun 1h just to reach the ruins of lordaeron as an alliance player? sucks
>>584468867Depends on the guild loot system but it's best to start within your specific class, subtly push people to roll on items they don't really need and it will snowball into other classes getting mad, and eventually into personal attacks will happen in guild chat/discord. It'll take a month+ of work but it gets the job done. People end up hating each other over loot.
>>584469128Final Affliction talent.
>>584468742Turns out there are actual women (female) posting here after all
>>584469237I like this guy's version more
>>584468743>level 30 meta>level 30 tier listsMetaniggers are a fucking PLAGUE. You people are fucking insufferable.
>26 mage>AoE farm Hillsbrand Farmers for first time>pull 6-8 mobs>suddenly other lvl 30 mage jumps in kills everything I still get most of the tags>me "wtf bro">other mage "my bad man looked like you were in trouble just trying to help">I was actually in trouble because used abilities too early ( •̯́ ^ •̯̀)..........
its only a matter of time until the game becomes bloated like retail
>>584469270oh its mind flay but even worse
>>584469270I'll say it, this is more of a Spriest talent. Warlocks are literally witches so this doesn't really make sense. Spriest however infect minds which works better with this.
>>584469250>levelling as an allifagkekaroo my fren
>>584469424nothing in the ability says it has anything to do with your mind
>>584468642oh thats what was weird about this, her eyebrows and eyelashes dont match the drapes
>>584469335they will see your post but no brain activity will occur and they'll go on believing level 30 tier lists
>>584469054yeah because that talent is totally for the shadow bolt and searing pain 6%, retard
>>584469237Visually, and good enough for the ERP, yeah, sure.For the like 8% of players who actually read, which I don't expect from the remaining 92%, the narrative distinction is clear. >>584469415>>584469424I agree in general, as another competing channel feels boring. I think Aff's final talent should be another Bane, or some uber-Doom where all your other DoT ticks reduce the timer on Doom.
>>584469379you cannot stop the endless march of time.
>>584469367K-kino...
>>584469462yea sucks, but aiem german and all the fucking streamers go Horde, like all of them. I cant deal with the simps
>>584462129Unoriginal and boringYou know what i want a raid on? Low stakes shit, like hey let’s have a pirate raid in booty bay as a pre patch to a kul Tiras/pirate island ‘expansion’
>>584469270why did they change the name? drain hope was so much cooler
>>584469335They use level 60 with all buffs for the dps sims
https://files.catbox.moe/s2nmjf.png>>584469135is that brown enough
>>584468803skelfs are literally high elves, blue skelfs have been blue'd during pregnancy by the wind force, according to the ingame lore books
>>584469250When will you people learn that you are not welcome at Undercity? Fuck off to halls of thanes.
Lads I'm new to the game, what class/spec is the best if I like buffing others a lot (not necessarily healing focused either)
>>584469725if they do eventually do kultiras i hope they keep the drust as canon.luv me wicker shit.
Lmao i can’t believe i made Snutz quit the tourney. I’ve been faking screenshots and similar information about snutz and tips out doing under table deals to set up the tourney and that there was a video coming on it, i sent this fake info to Alexensual Sodapoppin and Asmongold and i genuinely think one of them made a stink about it off camera cuz suddenly snutz is out so i can only assume that there ACTUALLY was some shit going on and he’s trying to avoid the drama
>>584469260might be more difficult with most raids being 10-20 man
>>584469725Most raids have always been kinda high stakes even in vanilla thobeit>Stop Ragnaros the Elemental Lord of Fire>Stop Onyxia the Daughter of Deathwing and the one who manipulated Stormwind>Stop Nefarian the Son of Deathwing creating a horrible monstrosity combining all of the Dragonflights>Stop Hakkar the Blood God>Stop C'thun the Old God who will kill the world if he gets to full power>Stop Kel'thuzad and the Scourge from turning everyone into zombies
>>584469778>muh Gay Eye told me so>with gear we cant data mine>and talents we dont haveYOU ARE A FUCKING PLAGUE. YOU ARE LIKE HALF OF WHATS WRONG WITH GAMING. METANIGGERS DESERVE TO BE FED TO ACTUAL NIGGERS WHILE STILL ALIVE.
>>584469821Little darker if you dont mind but ill be saving this one too regardless, thank you
>>584469956no one knows who that is
>>584469872you mean like Lordaeron?
>>584469270They should change it to mop malefic grasp
>>584469828I'm glad you know about the blue-tation, blessing of the windlord that's been turning more and more Skyborne blue, but how do you know that, but don't even know the difference between a High Elf (Quel'thalas), the Highborne (Kaldorei Empire), and the Skyborne?
>>584469971All the more reason for some low stakes. I want the reason for the raid being “hey these guys are blocking a trade route” or “this Centaur has united the clans and are going to take Thunder Bluff”
>>584470016>>with gear we cant data mineWe have a pretty good idea of the average stats from gear, no need for specifics>>and talents we dont haveWe know what all the talents do
Looking for wholesome nice friend to duo with in the beta. I"ll make whatever class and build you want to play with! reply if interested
>>584470183Lordaeron's closed, man.
>>584469570>tears the target apart from withinDamn you're fucking retarded. A warlock/witch can't do this shit
Did they fix racials yet? I unironically wanna be a Skelf cuz i prefer their forms to nelf/tauren and i hate levelling in teldrassil/Darkshore. But the racials are garbage. They should make that glide on air be a passive that gives them a slow fall for 2-3 seconds after reaching terminal velocity. And the 10% move speed should instead be a reduction to GCD
>>584470463"witch", kill yourself dnd esl faggot
>>584469957Aren't those just going to be like catch-up raids? I thought 40mans will still going to be in the game.
>>584470021this is about as dark as it will get.>>584469379for me it's forlo classic>>584470463warlocks whole deal is corrupting people and giving them magic aids. of course they can fucking kill people 'from within'... it's affliction's whole deal.
>>584470629Perfect thank you mysterious AI man I will cherish it.
>no 40 man raidsDisappointing and gay
So are we rolling horde or alliance this time to avoid the majority of the Troon squad?
>>584469943buffing without healing? umm mage? but you don't do it "a lot", it's a 60 minute buffthe two classes best for "buffing a lot" are druid and paladin, but both can heal and are often expected to heal. shaman buffs party members locally with totems, but is also often expected to heal. all support classes can and do heal
>>584470594a warlock is literally the male term for witch, idiot.
>>58447072540 mans suck. More people = more problems
>>584470336>we have a pretty good ideaTranslation: YOU DONT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE. THE IDIOTS PUTTING THAT SHIT OUT ARE GUESSING FOR ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE ENGAGEMENT PAYS THEM MONEY AND YOU SLURP IT UP LIKE A THIRSTY FAGGOT SLURPS A COCK.You know NOTHING. There is no "we" that includes YOU. You are parroting the shot in the dark guesses of content creators who make their living baiting dumbfucks like you to click their videos with a red arrow pointing to a circle around a random thing! Youre a fucking turbogoyim and everything you touch turns to dogshit at mach nigger.
>>584470603no 40 mans are for one boss raids like onyxia and world bosses, old raids like mc and bwl will be retooled for 10-20 man
>>584470739Troons will just run after streamers, they are pretty distributed. Only Jews will try to tell you that they are contained by one faction
>>584469956Who?
>no guys im totally just backing out of this 50k tournament that I have an insanely good chance of winning cause of "personal issues">i'll totally log in right now and trade all my gold to whoever wants it!>i wont go live or show anyone who gets it though>just trust me, it's for personal issueschink got banned lmfao go back to gambling yellowskin it's already plagued your race for thousands of years anyways
>>584469943You could just play Paladin, Druid or Priest and not play the healing specs. Tanks are in very high demand in WoW so Paladin or Druid will always get groups. I specifically like playing them 'because' of the buffs you can give to people. Priest is more likely to be forced into healing since they have two healing specs and an underperforming dps spec.
>>584469872Smelly dumb zombie scum
>>584470885Tell ‘em steve dave
They should give us some oldschool mmo style megaboss. Like 200 people, 20 hour bullshit.
thanks for keeping us updated on what your youtube father figure is doing
>>584470951He either got banned or he was pressured to leave because of signing up late. It is known
I need the brown skelf sloppa againWill small tits this time
>>584471101That would be kino if we didn't live in a world where that is basically tailor made for streamerjews
>>584470901>old raids like mc and bwl will be retooled for 10-20 manBULLSHIT
Need Karazhan added so bad. Objectively perfect raid with someone for everyone. It's faults only make it better. Don't @ me if you don't agree.
why doesn't blizz just ask grok to mash up OSRS and WoW
>>584471493Karazhan a shit. SHIT.
>>584471493I agree.
>>584470853yes, in your faggot dnd numale game
>>584470841>>584471026I see I see, thanks guys
if i’m going tauren prot warrior, what professions make sense?I would assume mining/blacksmithing so i can make my own armor. but i heard forever’s loot quality is realy good compared to classic. so i don’t want to waste mats crafting a green or blue if i’m just going to find one in the wild within the next 2 levels.I also feel weird about leaving cultivation on the table. i heard it has an hour cooldown and you only get 1 extra herb? if that’s true it’s worthless. i enjoy alchemy but seems weird to choose that for a tank.i’ve done engineering once and it didn’t seem that useful compared to blacksmithing. maybe in the lategame or if i’m rich i would choose it.any help or advice?
>>584471885blacksmith and engineering
why isn't jaina fat?
>>584471885No one knows what lvl 60 crafted items will look like but starting with mining/blacksmith should be pretty safe option
>>584471885Mining/smithing. The professions overhaul looks like theyre gonna have legit gear you can craft that will actually be upgrades when levelling. Potentially even shields. It'll also be a solid source of money, especially early on where retards will happily let themselves get buttfucked by price gouging for shit that'll be worth a fraction of what they pay you a month from now.
>>584469270why couldn't they just make this an additional effect of soul drain
>>584472036no goyslop in azeroth
It's for (you)
I want to play warrior so fucking bad but I just refuse to be absolutely worthless outside of raid night.
>>584472030nigger i play like 8 hours a week, i aint rich enough to buy mats for both profs
>>584471885The gear you can make as bs is pretty strong
>>584472217>tanking all your daily reel runs>worthless
>>584472235doesnt matter then, do what you want
they're buffing the crafting professions? excellent, I will still be leveling with skinning and mining
on day-1 fresh servers people are posting BiS blues like black velvet robes and thunderbrow ring for just above vendor price, it's amazingif you don't hit level 20 on day one and experience it for yourself, you're missing out
>>584472427>shes missing out on hourly +5% rested xp from LW
>>584472036
>>584472324>hey guys can i join your BG group>no you're a warrior>half of the game is now inaccessible>fine I'll go farm gold for raid night I guess>go into world>can't solo anything>get ganked by literally any class and die
>>584469952way too retaily
Holy shit blizzsaar outdid itself. You run slower if you alt+tab with the capped background framerate option.
>>584472427Not just crafting but gathering too. Mining got a major rework and they made it significantly easier to transition from bronze to iron and from iron to mithril. I imagine herbalism got its similar plateaus smoothed out too.
>>584472532>rested>when I'm a neet playing 19 hours a day for the first weekdoes not compute, sis
>>584472568what are you talking about? prot warriors can aoe farm now
>>584470885There are plenty of epic level 60 items on vendors you can see in the beta that show you what kind of stats you can expect to have
>>584472030>>584472098>>584472149>>584472328thanks pals, i’ll be a basic bitch and do mining/smithing. any tips on worming my way into a low pop layer so i can access more nodes? i hate walking all the way to a hidden node and seeing some toothless orc already smashing it
>>584471885>what professions make sense?a lot of people aren't gonna like this answer but engineering is still gonna be king on any character.
>>584472668>she doesnt understand what LW camp buff does
Is the scarlet enclave entrance portal in the game? I know new avalon is in so I assume it is but confirmation would be nice.
>>584472568brown victim mentality kek
>>584472736If the beta was any indicator, early on nodes are gonna be hyperspawning. Just be as attentive to your tracking as you have to.
>>584472532>rest
>>584470885
>>584472780I'm retarded, but still, I wear cloth. I'll just have my druid healslut make that for me
Will they do a big balance patch before release ?
>>584472780>camp buffSo I can just leech it off someone else
>>584472687that's not gonna last. prot shouldn't be the fastest leveling spec even for solo content like it is now, it will be nerfed. fatggrend won't allow warrior to be an AoE farmer before prot paladin, and even that is actively being gimped. Please try to think more than 8 seconds ahead.
>>584472909yeah they'll buff mages again and then say a week later they accidentally buffed them and it was acutally just a typo in the code then rever them back to god class instead of elder god class
>>584472909yep so they can nerf elemental shaman
>>584472821>brown victim mentalitya brown victim wouldn't swap to another class, they'd just bitch and moan until it's the undisputed best class. im probably just gonna play hunter or shaman instead. i can still yearn to zug.
>>584472886Ok now prove its real and not a bullshit fake to trip up dataminers and avoid spoilers like theyve specifically said they are doing.You know nothing you turbogoyim niggerfaggot.
>>584472964it's not too late to join the winning side
>>584473080you can walk to the vendor and look at it ingame right now
>>584473134Then youd have posted a screenshot of it on the vendor and not a cropped wow head screenshot.
>>584473134Talisman of binding shard was real once too hes right you dumbshits know nothing thougheverbeit
>>584473279i dont have dalaran access, ive seen it on stream, also the ilvl of the item and the stats on it correlates with the ilvl of items we already have, its very simple math
>retail narrative and cinematics are so toothless it's having people genuinely look back on WoD cinematics with fondness
>>584473442Times change.
alex runs this thread
>>584473430there is vendors in org and sw too
>mages need 200 spellpower just to be just as strong as a naked vanilla mage>this is "solved" by higher spellpower on gear>level 60 weapons have ~50-60 more spellpower, other pieces ~10-15 more from what they have shown so far>mage is actually the least fucked of all the casters when it comes to thiswondering if they fix this by unfucking spell base damage or by doubling down and re-tuning literally every caster item in the gamethis shit releases in less than 3 weeks btw
>>584467938better?
>>584473696they should have just made it so that int granted spellpower and adjusted from there
>>584472212Nah, it's for (us), twin.
i just can't be bothered loading up the game knowing that it's all going to be wiped next week
please send your thoughts and prayers to retail xisters, they're not taking latest patch too well
>>584473714How that obvious cameltoe got in the gameb in the big 26 I'll never know. Thanks Trump i guess
>>584472780The singular bar of rested xp that locks you out of another buff for an hour? Yikes
sky elves and their zone are actually pretty cool
>>584473916Yep
>>584473830that's why I'm playing monsters and memories and making slop until release.
>>584473863Why, what's going on? I haven't thought about retail in years.
>>584473816This video was dumb. The developers literally said Forever is for vanilla/classic players. And any changes made would be in the spirit of vanilla.
>>584473863>>584473970*dies of cringe*
>>584473970Liadrin died for Amani mudhutters
>>584473714ALOT
>>584473916it's retail
>>584473970Imagine if a major patch only came out with a single, one boss raid.
>>584473916yeah it's good and all but you really can't beat ellwyn forest or telldrassil
What do people even use Questie for? Does it anything other than spamming your map with quests that can('t) be accepted?
>>584473442Even when the game was shit the cinematics were pretty solid. The art boys have been holding it down all along.
>>584473970another horde leader killed in lame ingame cinematic while patch is full of bugs and disappointment
>>584473916I wish they would give us skyelf shamans for alliance so I would have a reason to buy them
>>584473871>implying that's a cameltoe and not a small bulge
>>584474073The majority of its functionality is built into the default UI now with a toggle on the main map window. Questie is largely defunct now beyond contrarian holdouts.
>>584473080nta but here, you retarded faggot. all the stats are worse than the vanilla versions
>>584474017worry not, sylvannas will be redeemed by magically popping out of shadowrealm butthole and reviving her xister as undead paladin
>increased usage of toad the frogatarwe're back. we're so fugging back
>>584473696I still dont understand why they are doing so much work to make caster loot more "meaningful" during the leveling process. they specifically say that the entire point was to give casters the same feeling as a melee when they get a weapon upgrade when casters already had that powerspike progression with spell ranks. progression was different than physical classes and it was perfectly fine. Ive literally never seen anybody complain about it
>>584473916More than cool, its the only zone in the game where the game isnt made to fuck you over with 3% drop quests, lack of trainers or lack of quest mobs so everyone can level up normally and at peaceOnce i left that place i realized how much i miss some fucking modern quest design and map layout, it sucks that the game doesnt expand on Zephyr QoL, places like Westfall and Darkshore are AIDS
>"We want people to be out in the world not sitting in instances all day">Proceeds to turn every single zone into an instanceEven the redditslurpers won't defend it anymore lmao
>>584474271Pvp sissy troony loonies?Did we just get GAPED RAPED KEKED AND CASTRATED?
>>584473696>level 60 weapons have ~50-60 more spellpowerYeah, when it's a pvp 1 handed healing weapon
>>584474073i like seeing on the map where the quests are and what levels they are
>>584474275..Not her sister
>>584474098Killed is a strong word. She just fucking dies.
>horde leaderit's just the blood elf paladin leader kek
>>584474458Shut up! SHUT UP YOU ARE IRANIAN RMT BOOSTER BOTTER!!! SHUT UUUUPP!!!
my, you're a tall one
>>584474376it saddens me deeply that forever is made for people like youeverything has to be convenienteverything has to be homogenouseverything has to be fastand then people will wonder why the game no longer feels like classic
>>584473863I'm worried about a mass influx of retail players as they accept their version is circling the drain2019 classic already had waaay too many retail players to begin with
World of Warcraft? More like Layers of Warcraft
>>584462001That arm should be black furred
What do I do for 18 days?
>>584474704now give her a cage for her clitty
>>584474536arent they all related out there? might be mixing with another knife ear i guess, oh well
>>584474017>doesn't even die in a cool or epic way>just keels over from overexertion >cinematography can't even give it interesting framing, just a flat center frame blocking where she is dead on the floor
>>584474783Learn to suck dick
>>584474704>5 fingers
>>584473658oh yeah i didnt know that
>>584474752play private servers (turtle wow clone, wotlk reforged, epoch)other computer games (warcraft III, deadlock, league of legends)
>>584474841I already know that though. Next suggestion!
vgh why does gnome have to so good
>>584474735i wouldn't worry too much, most are too mazed and without regular 15 guaranteed weekly epic rewards with +2 ilvl they'll crawl back for their dopamine rush
>retail chvds get mad when male characters are killed or put in a wheelchair>retail chvds get mad when female characters are killedmake up your damn mind
>>584474936Build up a tolerance to arsenic.
>>584474518this is +64 spellpower from classic. ironbark staff from the same vendor is +53. these are pvp oriented weapons but that doesnt matter because the differential will be proportional across the board
Dood, they put 4chan representation into the game!
>>584475089it won't bethey're giving weapons a lot more spelldmg than other pieces
>>584474704>*unzips footlong green schlong*
>>584473696spriest is less fucked than mage, it only need like 70 for its entire kit to have more damage than before, mage needs a lot more depending on the spell
>>584469702German streamers? I'm German myself and I only care about Asmon so I wouldn't know.Good thing I won't have to deal with these faggots then.
>beta ends>announce a delay until early 2027 to fix the countless bugs in the game>beta 2 in januaryare you looking forward to it?
>>584475089Do you have any examples of an ilvl 65 1 handed caster weapon that is not from pvp? Do the pvp weapons actually have the same amounts of spellpower?
>>584468441whats the point of all the 2h str weapons if theyre not gonna make arms good?
>>584474358the difference in the way they scaled made them more interesting too.
>>584475356not really, i'm burnt out already
>rolls on your gearsorry bruv I need this for my pet-heal equipment
>>584474723Not even Blizzard agrees with your take, they made the changes themselves before the announcement was a thing
someone tell 'vun asap
>>584475356Honestly I wouldn't mind that much. Would give me enough time to play GTA.
>>584475578'vun can't afford the beta
>>584475378pvp usually has less because stamina takes up quite a bit of ilvl
>keep getting emails from blizzard that arent beta invites
>>584475128is that supposed to be a diablo reference?
>>584463437Reading comprehension
>want to roll Druid>warrior with smithing is just so fucking comfyDamnit
>>584475770click the link that says unsubscribe at the bottom of the electronic mail
>>584475356Nothing is bugged besides the layering, which will get fixed
>>584475770I'm not sure why you guys ever expected beta opt-in invites
>>584470725>>584470864>not 40 man>will still pretend Naxx clears in 2 hours are equivalent to 2005
>they keep adding cash shop mounts to mop classic when it's clearly abandoned and deadgoddamn these jews are shameless
>>584475884anon...
I want to play warrior but don't want to tank
>>584475930rogue fixes this
>>584470864agreed, just give us the wrath naxx
being able to multiclass will save wowf
>>584475927gotta milk the whales
>>584475796Riverglades is the "Blizzard nostalgia" zone, what do you think?
>>584476040Isn't this the jerk off room girl?
>>584475197maybe dungeon and tier 1 raid loot will be substantially better than rank 14 gear, BG exalted items, and that one crafted blacksmithing sword and casters wont feel like complete shit. maybe every item shown intentionally has low stats to prank people on the betaI dont think any of this will be true but it could be!>>584475378as far as im aware the only items that we know the stats of are pvp items and some crafted gear. here is the blacksmithing sword. its identical to sageclaw with hit instead of crit. maybe every other prebis/tier 1 caster item that hasnt been shown yet is super good and these are just weak dogshit. I can only hope that this is the case.
>is called wow forever>doesn't let you level foreverBiggest missed opportunity here
>>584473871>>584474060
>>584476189It does, you can unlearn your professions and level them again or create a new character and level him up.
>>584475568I am aware of what philosophy blizzard agrees with. I know the player that blizzard is making forever for. This is why I am sad.
>>584462386why should he turn off growl
>>584476189you have to pay forever to play forever
>>584476091i havent been to riverglades is it similar to a diablo zone?
>>584476141looks like bonibonkers, does very mild softcore stuff
>>584471493it'll def pop up at one point. one of the most widely acclaimed raids with v minimal to rag on. maybe the final boss changed but if it comes back basically 100% the same i'd be happy
>>584476176pvp gear was nerfed on purpose and we will be having seasons of gear bringing it up in power, but not enough that people want it over pve gear
how do i groom warcraft gamer dads to carry me and feed me loot and make me a mommy
How is Disc Priest S Tier for both PVE and PVP? They're good in healing and duels but pvp servers don't work like that. Unless a priest can solo a 3v1 Druid is the best healer for pvp servers solely because of stealth.
engineering should be a separate profession slot that everyone can level 2bh. basically mandatory for pvp
>>584476359Because it triggers me when I'm tanking
>>584470901It'll be like Naxx in WOTLK which was 100x easier than Naxx 40 ever was.
>>584476621play resto shammy
>>584476649priest can also stealth
>>584476649no one gives a fuck about world pvp imbalance, and druid sucks because hots are ez purge/dispel
how cool will it be to be able to level through redridge mountains without having to go through the writer's barely disguised fetish quest with keeshan where they mention he was used as a fetish toilet urinal sex slave
>casting speed reductions slow down GCDsLMAO
>>584476389Nah, I mean just generalized "blizzard nostalgia". The alliance faction in the zone are a random group of knights from Warcraft 1 that nobody gave a shit about and were never mentioned after Warcraft 1 save for Ashkandi, maybe. I wouldn't be surprised if they start pulling shit from the The Death and Return of Superman or Rock n' Roll Racing.
>>584476796How?
I love cursing people and watching them die slowly
>tourists mindlessly rolling need on my gear for the first two months lets GOOOOOO
>>584476821sounds like an alliance problem
>>584476236thats more elf like
I'm a fat balding anglo american neetrace/class for this feel?
>>584476698just let it happen broleave the pet's target alone while you build threat on other mobs and tactical taunt for free aggro
>>584472568you want warriors in your premades. Retard
>>584476878
>>584476949nelf hunter
>>584477049for what?hunter pet is better than any warrior
>>584476915this shit makes me so mentally unstable for the first 2-3 months im insufferable to play with. I can handle losing rolls after a couple months when the playerbase is settled but knowing 90% of the rolls I lose are going to sit on unsubbed characters 2 weeks later fucking infuriates me. There should be a required amount of /played in Classic to even log into Forever these retail and influenced faggots from youtube and twitch should not be allowed to breathe the same air as my character.
>>584476270But I want keep leveling the same character over and over. There needs to be a prestige system or something, or let us level indefinitely with every level above 60 giving you +1 on a stat of your choosing that would be even better
>>584476972I never complain when a hunter has taunt on. Like why should I care that im now taking massively reduced damage in favor of a pet? Like it would only be an issue if they did something weird like taunted then manually sent the pet off somewhere.
>>584476843does it work on non casters too?
>>584472568GDKP solved this by giving fury warrior a viable means to make gold, so of course faggrend removed it
>>584468441if it’s a similar difference to tbc then arms will be perfectly playable
>some level 302015 rogue corpse camping me in redridge for 10 hours straight
>>584477049>you want warriors in your premadeswhat does a Warrior do in PvP that isn't done 10x better by any other class? (retard)
>>584476176mage and warlock prebis in vanilla including later additions like the turban from UBRS and tier 0.5 had a little over 300 spellpowerto match this mages will have to have 500 SP, warlocks ~600, and boomies/ele ~650they will probably just increase spell base damage
>>584477060You can't move like that.
does imp stormstrike and mindfullness stack?
>>584476621Resto Speaki...
>>584476915You don't have a premade group already? Only 3 weeks left anon
Why is dispel still casting when there is nothing to dispel, is this bug going to get fixed or what?
>>584477637skill issue
>>584477637Has always functioned like this. Git gud.
>>584477637maybe use your brain instead of the game playing itself, why can you cast heal if the health bar is full retard aaaa
>He's not in a guild>He doesn't have prio for the first hyjal legendaryKek. Might as well just go back to Era
>>584477256yes every class has GCDs
How is gnome priest?
>>584477686Surely the code isn't that complicated'>>584477717??? no it hasn't, go on era or TBC right now and check>>584477730>durrr spells that are out of range should consume mana and trigger the cooldown and just fizzleyet they don't for a reason dummy
>hit level 60>do a special quest chain for a specific class>get your level reset to 1 and you are now that class>primary professions also wiped>can swap back to your previous class and professions at any time for free in a main city>can't start another class until the one you chose is level 60Why not do this?
just saw a>olympus west virginiaguild in game. can't make this shit up. it's literally destitute 80 iq meth heads that make up his fanbase
DEADONARRIVAL>here at blizzard we like to make promises on design choices we can’t deliver on because no one knows how to make it and Claude can’t figure it out either
>>584476843yeah wasn't this some later addition? i don't remember tongues slowing down gcd in vanilla or tbc.
>>584476843good thing the two classes I play have decurse LMAO
>>584477442They will probably just buff scaling if damage at 60 is too low
>>584477902Alexsexual was right. Apologize.
>>584477902is it annoying phone posting? i dont understand why you would want to do it desu are you indian?
I've decided on druid main. At first I thought it would be a bad choice because all those people who play the new blu-elf will be picking druid but then I realized all of them will be too retarded to actually tank dungeonsTauren feral druid it is until 60
>>584477846cute and funny
>>584477902no one wants pure horizontal. they just want there to not be a giga ilvl increase every tier.
>>584476843no wonder the bat is bis hunter pet
>>584478037My fellow Tauren druid bro, respect.
Really wish the 5% rested buff from campfire was baseline and LW given something else.as it stands now every class in the game is highly compelled to be a LW while leveling, assuming ~5 days /played to get to 60 you are potentially missing out on 6 levels of rested XP. you obviously wont get the buff literally every hour but even ~4 levels along the way with just a 20 LW requirement is way too good to pass up
>>584478052Th-thanks desu
>>584477909it's because it's a hacked retail client and so haste is affecting the GCD, including -haste
>>584476015>>584476740If they do wrath naxx I hope they rework corrupted ashbringer into a legendary instead of just leaving it out or giving it to NPCs again.
>>584477936cant remove the hunter bat debuff>>584477847you cant cast dispel magic out of range either retard
>>584477902>be me>pay 60 heckin dollars for FORLO>play the beta>everything gets deleted>feelsbad but acceptable>game launches officially>spend a year grinding my ass off, ascending in a guild's loot prio, clearing content, and getting BiS>OKAY PIGGIES THAT'S ENOUGH FUN NOW>ilvl gets reset>progression gap closes>my work is now meaningless>OUR CATCHUP MECHANIC? JUST PLAY THE GAME CHUD. (because we'll just bring everyone back to square one every year)
They should do more set items at level 60
>>584478037>trash in pvp>healer only at 60I guess you're good at leveling tho
are the mats for leveling engi and stuff still the same? I want to go into the game knowing exactly how much mining I have to do
>>584478074>your items will be relevant forever>run raids>get legendary >take a break>stat squished down to preraid bisAmazing!
>>584477734the legendary is going to be something gay like a ring that everyone can get from a quest chain
>>584477848Because thats just making an alt with extra steps.
>>584478327it's a staff, it's been confirmed
>>584478317yeah all the recipes are known
Why are people so fucking autistic about the balance?>UMM WHY DOES THIS HAVE 68 SPELLPOWER IT USED TO HAVE 74!!!!The game, in none of the classic iterations, has ever been difficult enough that this kind of shit mattered, people cleared MC in greens when classic launched. Yet you still have these fuckers make unironic, lengthy whine-posts about how things are "nerfed" or some other bullshit they've convinced themselves of based on some AI guess
>>584478326MEANINGFUL PROGRESSION. WELCOME TO FORLO THAT'LL BE $90
>>584477175I solve this by rolling a tank and making sure no one in my groups can roll on my items.
>>584478269Yes. Is there a problem with that?>mfw he's never heard of Diablo II ladder
>>584478441he's too oldafter they turn 13 she just leads them on forever
>>584478242>you cant cast dispel magic out of range either retardare you brown?range is a condition check to make the UI not feel clunky just like the debuff check for dispel, the entire point of wow is that it has a UI that feels good not janky like dispel does
>>584478317they are but skillup cutoffs/level chances are changed. at least they were for tailoring. across the board items were going green/grey at lower levels than they were in classic.I tried following a vanilla guide and in some cases items were already grey by the time it told me to start making them for 15 levels. Think that specific one was a bolt and not a finished item though
>>584478509>rolling a tank>hit 60>oh yeah anon our GM and his butt buddy are already tanking, you can be our 5th OT thoughyeah wow tanking seems so fun
>>584478316I'm fine with being healer at 60 I wouldn't pick a hybrid in classic if I wasnt. But I think bear will be a seriously good tank tooI have less hope for cat or balance being good but if they are then thats just a bonus
>>584478517>Is there a problem with that?Not inherently. It's only a problem because they spent all of Blizzcon jerking off about who could promise the most horizontal content without delivering on any of it.
ITS HERE REJOICE
>improved lightning shieldlollmaoimagine wasting mana ever casting this spell
>>584478517They made Chromie a troon btw
>>584478316>druid>trash in pvpwhat the fuck are you smoking?
>>58447864340man raid team needs 8 tanks
>>584478579dispel doesnt feel janky though, you are just mentally stunted and yes i am a priest main
>>584478810That video could have been like 5 minutes. Its literally 30 minutes of "Blizzard met players in the middle between vanilla and retail" but said like 50 different times.
>not having that shitskin blockedkek
>>584478517will Chromie be in forever? does anyone know?
>>584478817isnt it the most efficient spell in the game?
>>584478854I know you're joking but the people who don't understand this problem unironically believe this is true.>m-muh 4Hthat shit is getting reworked so hard it'll be a shadow of its former self
>>584478643>run tank>make groups>only invite people who won't roll on your stuff>get your pre raid bis for your dps spec fast as fuck>switch specsProblem?
>>584478810
>>584478871$50 hes a decursuve masher that keeps OOMing himself in PvP.
>>584478871You didn't even know dispel is supposed to have a debuff check.You do not play priest.You are not even in the beta.
what caster should i maiinnnn ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>5844789624 x 10 mans = 8 tanks
>>584478643>Be Druid>Can be any role and they have all been buffed>Feral can be tank and melee dps on the fly per battle with basically no loss>But people in the thread will just say "But druid specs are all bad!" when they've all been massively buffed
>>584478817Isn't lightning shield alright for leveling? I certainly remember keeping it up regularlyThe talent for it is incredibly scuffed though just like so many other shaman talents
>>584478943She should still be in Andorhal, waiting for adventurers to meet her by the inn room bed.
>>584478973If the shield comes off when you step into raid you're not a tank.
>>584468864respond
>>584478943>>584478826
>>584479037yeah its probably the best spell to use while leveling
>>584478975>bro just accept blizzard's buggy janky code!why are troons like this?
>>584479003don't remember when it was changed but i'm 100% sure you could cast dispel on targets without buffs / debuffs in vanilla
>>584478854no they fucking dont lmao. you had 2 for MC, BWL, AQ, and 95% of naxx. and even for 4H you just rotated dps warriors for the back 2 guys
>>584479152don't care still breeding that fat gnome butt
>>584478954>>584479037>does no damage, like actually worse than thorns kind of no damagePretty sure you'll have less downtime just never casting it and instead using that window to regen mana for actual spells
>>584479027Fuck off naturenig druids are bad and will continue to be bad no amount of cope will change that.
>>584479272Peace be with you
>>584479174You could not, it gives a mesaage "nothing to dispel".
>>584479003thats how it always worked, it got changed way later
>>584479112dont play a hybrid class if you dont want to do multiple roles>>58447924910 mans need 2 tanks each
>>584479169>but you dont understand I HAVE to mash decursive thats what the streamers told me they do and theyre the best I have to do the best thing>I cant adapt on my own I have to be told by someone on twitch to stop mashing decursiveHave fun being OOM dispelling thin air you stupid goy.
>>584479315you could've just said you didn't play in 2005
>>584479151The only one with reactive battle resurrection yesWarlock has soulstone and shaman has ankh that can function as a form of brez
>>584478837nta but druid is pretty bad in pvp, yayou basically have one hybrid spec that does no damage and is only good for surviving. you can run the flag in wsg and duel by kiting for 5 minutes. thats itferal and boomie are free HKs
>>584461397I haven't played WoW in 17 years. I have pic related. Should I paly Forever?
>>584479347wtf are you even talking about, I am talking ab out a bug and you are talking about streamers or something???Bro if you don't know what I am talking ab out don't respond obviosuly.
>>584479249Finally, someone who understands what I'm saying when I talk about this. The amount of retarded niggers that literally will say "you can tank dungeons and be an offtank! every raid needs 6 offtanks!!!!" every time I bring this up is dumbfounding. There has almost never been a point in time you ever needed more than 2 real tanks in a raid. That's not changing. You're either the RL/GM working 100x harder to organize everything so you can keep your spot as a tank or you're 6th in line for tank gear and forever stuck DPSing. There is no in between, and the people insisting there is need to get firing squaded.
>>584479315Not that Anon but I'm pretty sure he is correct
>>584478826dragons can literally just change their form at will
>>584479459retail gaymer getting pressed not even knowing how the game actually worked
>>584479493He is not, and you are samefagging.You can log on to vanilla right now.The real question is why are there so many post defenfing a BUG of all things??
>>584478923that's why if i watch his videos, I pause immediately and just use the AI summary feature.
>>584479335Hybrid means you're able to heal. There's no benefit to being a tank in pvp. You cannot taunt enemies and force them to focus you. You cannot shield block away that incoming ice lance which is about to crit for 90% of your hp.You can however heal all that damage in any spec as a true hybrid.
>>584479459Retard it's literally not a bug. You have always been able to spam dispels on a target, even if there is nothing that can be dispelled. This is not new you fucking tourist shitter.
>>584479408cool thanks
>>584479315Patch 1.10.0 (patch date:2006-03-28): All spells/abilities that remove existing effects (e.g. Dispel Magic, Cleanse, Remove Curse etc...) will now verify that there is an effect that can be removed before casting. here proof's
>>584479335>le warrior is a hybrid argumentjust say you're an elemental shaman shitskin. warrior is not a fucking hybrid. die.
>>584479265simply not true in the slightest
>>584479459>some unflushed retoilet rainbownigger telling ME how MY game workedLel
>>584479652Ok you are 100% a bot.Everyone that plays this game knows that is not >>584479706exactly and it was added because it was janky as fuck, and those dipshits saying it wasn't in the game have literally never played itare they suggesting we remove the range check on abilities too, is that enough jank for you??
>>584479620>You can log on to vanilla right now.Pretty sure you can't login to a server from 20 years ago
>>584479706not vanilla
>>584479954>retail tourist priest FOTM shitter learning how the game works for the first time>calling ME a botkek
>>584479435this is how I feel as a solo druidI can open on an enemy as feral and die or run away as resto and usually never diehealing in small group pvp is my best chance at having fun
>>584480081>>584479706bro he literally posted that I am right.yes you are a bot or jsut a retard.
>>584479954>dipshits saying it wasn't in the gameYou were the one saying it never worked like it does in Forever
>>584479954you are struggling with rudimentary English, you can't even conceive that vanilla and classic are not the same
>>584480201>>584480208Ok you guys are stupid and probably the same person pretending to be different people.
>>584479824Actually it is true because I leveled shaman to 30 and it was always faster to just never bother with lightning shield but you do you anon
>>584479456I'm still salty I didn't get the stupid statue because somewhere along the line I linked a second account to my bnet, was subscribed without a day of interruption starting from day 1 vanilla but switched from account A to account B as my main account somewhere around wrath.
>>584479627>>584479809Devs confirmed warriors are hybridsGo cry on the official forums
Can the jannies just ban this retard? He is either underage or trolling, both bannable offenses
>>584480335we accept your concession
>>584480186I'm telling you as someone who ACTUALLY played Vanilla, ACTUALLY played classic, and ACTUALLY mained priest that you are wrong. Pointing to another nonsense comment when everyone else in the thread who actually plays is telling you how it works is fucking hilarious. You aren't making it to 60, retoilet will claim you back soon.
>>584480510Anyone can literally log on right now and see that you are wrong.The only conclusion is that you are stupid.
what is blud yappin about?
>>584479867obsessed
>>584480456except its not because it does more damage for less mana and can be cast at any time for free
