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APOLOGIZE Edition

>Latest patch:
https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>584726803
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WYPIPO
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We know Valve and IceFrog doesn't care about 4chan's opinion on Violet, but Reddit and Twitter are not any kinder, so they know they fucked up.
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She won
You lost, tranny
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Funny how the biggest doomwave to ever hit Deadlock is a bland chink
Yoshi was right to tell them to take Invoker's kit off this boring bitch.
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RATE MY RANKINGS
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>>584735781
Shut up Billy.
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dont worry and wait yall get harrow on tuesday
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one thread closer
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What minority is next to be added
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>>584735925
>Middling
>At the bottom
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>>584735919
It's a bad sign of things to come. Deadlock never had a real miss character until this one.
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>>584735968
>yall
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Thank you, Violet. For not being the Invoker of this game, because it means his kit can go to someone cooler and better written. Truly.
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i want everyone who voted for violet to write their apology form for dooming us like this
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Where is the ignorant ghetto thug rog character?
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So what's more likely gonna happen?
>Devs finish map and give reworked character models and finally announce the game officially?
>Another wave of characters after this one or on release?
Like I've no clue what more they need to do besides finishing some parts of the map still and reworking the character models on some characters.
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>>584735979
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right now, on the top of your head, determine what all the reasons why each character since OGNB would need to join the ritual
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How would (You) have fixed Violet's writing/backstory
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One thread closer to getting Matinee the sexy leaked feral female spider added.
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>>584735946
>I'm a socialist with a black girlfriend and she sucks ass I'm sorry.
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>>584735886
Violet is the best character they've released since Apollo and I won't hear otherwise. No I don't care about her lore. She is just a good character in a moba.
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Which characters would you put on each team canonically?

If they had to decide a full 6v6 for a cutscene.
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I'm Sowwy Billliaaah!
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so yeah about your mid 20th century new york aesthetic
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>>584735925
Calico has a great characterization, voice actor and kit. Her model is just terrible.
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So out of the 3 waves of characters they added, is the first wave still the best one?
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Recent hero motivations:
>Mina
Wants to be Viscount. Will be murdered in the same day but is oblivious to that. Reasonable wish.
>Drifter
Here to fuck around
>Victor
Wants to find out who made him and why, along with identifying his body parts. Reasonable wish.
>Doorman
Here to fuck around.
>Rem
Wants to go home. Understated but fine.
>Billy
Not enough information to make a judgement.
>Venator
Not enough information/diet Warden. Reasonable-ish.
>Silver
No idea honestly.
>Paige
Wants to find her missing brother. Reasonable enough.
>Graves
Lich hand grooming her.
>Celeste
Le Lenny.
>Apollo
Not enough information.
>Rat King
Wants to conquer long Island. Not like he can do that without a Patron.
>Danny
Same deal as any other character who wants their particular faction to succeed.
>Baba
Here to fuck around.
>Solomon
Here to fuck around.
>Violet
No justifiable reason whatsoever.
I feel like people overstate the problem a little bit. Its really Solomon and Baba (and now Violet)
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>>584736123
Make her like Billy where you're supposed to think she's awful and annoying
That way her and Billy being fuckbuddies makes sense
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>>584735886
I don't really see anyone being positive about it besides shippers but those barely classify as "fans" if at all
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>>584736186
Venator would be on the hidden kings side since he is irish and likes to beat women
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>>584736123
make her some sort of cursed ink spirit/drawing come to life
make it not understand the weight of life and death
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>>584736219
the top characters do not fit 20th century new york though
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>>584736120
left to right
>cleansing
>idk
>idk
>some high horse shit about saving the world
>FOR LONG ISLAND
>idk
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>I'm joining the ritual because... I want to be famous... but I'm also totally le hecking scared about it
It at least makes sense for Paige to be scared because she's got a damn good reason for fighting. Violet's motive sucks AND she's got the "ooh gosh I'm in over my head" personality.
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WELL, DEADTARDS?
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>3/5 of the new characters have giga AOE slop ults
>5/5 characters have general AOE slop abilities
>3/5 characters are incredibly boring to play
>4/5 characters have incredibly boring lore
So far CNS is a big fat fucking failure, and even if Harrow is a 10/10 fun awesome cool guy it's still worse than old gods
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>>584736123
There were like 40 suggestions in the last thread about how to improve her character, some that don't even need much dialogue changing.
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>>584736219
Baba and Harrow fit better than Seven and Pocket but no one wants to hear that
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>>584735904
Violet was always the tranny character. If you think otherwise you are just a weeaboo in denial.
Name any other character where terminally online trans xitter users were making fake dev screenshots to trick people .
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Violet is THIRSTY for that WEREWUSSY
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>>584736335
4
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>>584735781
I'm sorry Billy, Violet ruined you too. They couldn't leave the goatman as a kinda pathetic but motivated rage against the world guy, they had to shove in awkward lines about how he's actually a softie and helps grandmas.
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>>584736335
Pre-buff, a 2, post-buff, a 4
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>>584735925
0/10 you fantastic tier has 1 good design and it's Lash. Everything else there is reddit garbage and you're just outting yourself as a faggot. Calico and violet fit the game more than anyone else in that tier.
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So, Harrow is the m1 hypercarry farmkino for trve Aryans, right?
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They could redeem Violet by making her more fucked up than Drifter she's just well liked / normalfag like serial killers do
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>>584736246
>Silver
get her life back on track, so somehow fix her depression and alcoholism, maybe by killing Drifter/Shiv.
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SHUT UP ALREADY
IT'S NOT EVEN BEEN A DAY AND I'M FUCKING SICK OF VIOLET
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danny SWEEP
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>AOE silence ult that also does damage and also buffs allies!
>it fits her character because.. it's like...paint or something dude...
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>>584736475
This is a truth bomb, though. Graves is a cringe retard
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>>584736386
>So boring not even yurifags, the white bread of shitty fetishes, like her
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>>584736475
Violet is an adult saying this to a teenage girl btw
And you're supposed to like her
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>>584736335
Probably a 4 right now. or a 3 if I'm feeling a bit dishonest and evil and want him to get buffed even more
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Six Seven
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Violet should have been an oneeshota doujin artist character
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Violet has great lore
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This is my new oc Six hes like Seven but hes a good guy
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>>584736120
>POWER
>Shilling for Fairfax/protecting Fairfax's interests
>Protecting NY (haze conversation)
>Banking a favor for if he needs one
>Long Island (his lore)
>According to a Viscous conversation, having her art exhibited (validation)
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>>584736123
make it so all the other characters treat her like shit.
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>>584735925
Calico's character is honestly pretty good.
Her model is just garbage.
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>>584735979
Indian taxi driver
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>>584736452
>violet fits the game more than Geist and Doorman
Every Violetnigger that dares show his SUBHUMAN face on this day needs to be shot in the head.
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nerfing baba and shiv movement is honestly such a let down
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violet likes bwc
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>>584736335
He feels way better now but I still don't get his role beyond being a good ganker early game, what are you supposed to do with him later in the game?
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>>584736714
Making half her lines talk about white dick would be a genuine improvement in personality.
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Is he the best character in the entire game from a character perspective?
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>he's still seething about Violet
Let it go little bro
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>>584736734
>what are you supposed to do with him later in the game
Shut down enemy flying characters e.g. Vindicta, Seven, Lash
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>>584736665
>>584736772
holy trvkes
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>>584736084
Someone answer me? How close even are we to release? It's been almost 3 years and the map looks very close to completion.
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Wow this conversation is comically bad

wtf is wrong with the voice actor?
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>>584736714
>bdc*
ftfy
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>>584736776
Yes, to the point that making him both gay and fashionista still didn't diminish his coolness.
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>>584736862
wtf is bdc
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Mina was too difficult for troons to play so they released another AGPbait humanoid but this time she has a point and click stun so trannies can be useful

noticing
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>>584735925
I agree with #1
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>>584736714
anons, yfw violet gets a line acknowledging the oxford study?
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>>584736123
Play up her being an impoverished hippie tortured artist in way over her head with a massive ego. She's had to struggle all her life while always failing. Most of the character conversations should acknowledge some flaw of hers. She should also be more anti-establishment and dislike Danny - Billy but much less crude. Completely cut out the shit with her parents, it's boring and cliche. Her parents should be dead if anything.
Also change her ult to be more deranged and use the demon painting in some way.
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>>584736524
She is, but she's in that "teenager that thinks she knows better but is actually in over her head" phase. Her being a cringe tryhard is the point of her character.
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Extremely positive response to Mina and Graves caused this by the way. Valve heard loud and clear the community wanted a cute college age girl every new cycle of heroes so they added another one out of obligation. And surprise surprise she's a typical collage art girl just like people responded well to with Mina and Graves. Except this time they screwed up and took out every potential bit of spiciness she could have had and played her completely straight instead of making her a spoiled bitch like Mina or a dumbass goth like Graves.

Valve must have known something was wrong with Violet the instant she lost second to Baba. Mina had to be put in instantly because she would have steamrolled the first vote no contest and Graves only lost out to the mascot character. Her design isn't appealing and her character is even worse. At least the kit is relatively inoffensive.
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>>584736836
Probably like 60-70%?
Like another 6 heroes, remodels, item rework, and whatever they're cooking up for other modes and cosmetics/progression.
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>>584736850
oh it broke

anyways here it is https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/971d768f112ee4a4708a4426c845d715/
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Violet taking Billy to meet her parents and they're more upset at him being white than having a goat head
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>>584736836
We are probably two major updates away from open beta. One of them might be another hero batch.
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>talented and passionate artist who falls into mysterious ink that turns her into living ink, and constantly has to keep herself stable with art appliances, and just consumes regular ink now instead of food. the one passion she found escapism in has now become her curse, and desperate for a cure, she participates in the ritual
so how'd I do fellas
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>>584736791
>Violet is so widely panned that you need the opposite contrarian opinion to bait with
Looking good
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>>584736898
big dog cock
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She's amazing
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>>584736836
This is the golden age of deadlock anon. You don't want it to release.
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>>584736123
Make her a legit druggie who always seeks a higher thrill to find artistic inspiration and realized that only facing death in the ritual could give her what she wants.
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>>584736957
Its actually comical we're on our 3rd college girl so far

do men even go to school in this universe
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>>584736123
I would just honestly remake the entire designs of Baba, Billy, Calico, Celeste, Danny, Drifter, Graves, Paige, Paradox, Rem, Silver, Victor, Viscous and Warden because suck, are boring, and dont fit into a game taking place in a magic-oriented 1920s but its not like my opinion will change the design philosophy of the dreaded san francisco hapa fetishist self-inserter
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>>584736992
Ah yes, "206"
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>>584737084
4 lanes daylight grey box map with old pocket model and rectangle UI was peak deadlock
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>>584736982
So mid 2027? Late 2027? Early 2028?
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>>584736123
least amount of change: Make her a heel. Her wish is entirely self centered. She's going to kill people to get clout for her already successful art carrier and acts all "smol bean I'm so scared guys this is so dangerous". The only reason characters aren't calling her insane is because she's some dev's favorite.
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>>584736714
can you please not use my wife for your racial shitposting? thank you in advance.
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>>584737123
>no sinclair
huh
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>>584735925
billy warden and calico are good, wraith to midling
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>>584736776
He's up there. I like Vyper's legit sociopathy slice of fantasy life antics more, but Seven is legit great supervillain.
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>>584736714
Yup, Big Wolf Cock
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>>584737123
>he still cares about "it has to fit the era"
the original 19 didnt fit it
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>>584736957
trvke bomb
i wonder if valve is gonna own up and consider redesigning her from the ground up, cuz its a little embarassing for them to rush forward with releasing heroes like this and end up with a failure
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>Push obj
>See people on zipline responding
>Throw out 2 and slide away
This starts playing in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvziPPpryv0
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Make Violet a loli
Change her ult to the paint demon
She loves her parents but wants to capture the true form of the patron in her work

There you go, this one's on the house Valve, no payment required. In fact, reach out to me any time you need ideas, no charge.
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If Billy doesn't shittalk your character, it is because he's brainwashed by the Developer Pet Field it emanates and your character is shit.
>Baba
Shit character
>Solomon
Good character
>Violet
Atrocious character
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>>584737113
pocket is technically a former college-boy
professor dynamo goes to school
a lot of the cast on the men side is just way older compared to the women side of the cast; like legit the oldest characters we have right now are all men, save for baba
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>>584737123
>remake their most successful designs

can't tell if bait or retard
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I drew fan art of Violet
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>>584736084
here's the pathway
>shop/item rework
>midboss rework + more mid game objectives
>mass character kit overhaul
>pve but pretty barebones
>more pve
>another ranked rework
>character remodels
>cosmetics system (emotes, skins, hideout stuff) Open beta starts here
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>>584736776
He's the only one that could serve as a good final antagonist for the lore aside from many Doorman
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>celeste
troon self insert, lost all character in just one update lol
>violet
troon self insert, dogshit from the get go
When is Valve going to fire these troon self inserters?
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>>584736850
>>584736992
>asian american woman trashing an asian american male
waow
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Holliday should reload her bullets one by one like Abrams' revolver and her barrel should be omnidirectional
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>>584736123
Pump her ego way up to near Lash levels. She should be an insufferable artfag instead of an insecure one.
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>>584737385
they definitely need to give warden and callico a complete overhaul though
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What are the odds Riot is gonna copy Deadlock after it releases and it somehow overshadows Deadlock on popularity? I've already seen it for LoL and Valorant, why would this not be the same?
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>Vyper
>scumbag criminal girlfailure
>universally beloved by the playerbase
>Violet
>talented uwu smol bean, all the characters love her
>hated by the playerbase
Why did Valve forget how to write compelling females? Will Harrow be better?
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>>584737113
It's the 50's
The smart guys just get a job out of high school and can support their wife and 5 kids and afford a 2 story house in the suburbs
If they are gonna go to school why the hell would they throw their life away in the ritual?
Reminds me of how every R6 operator is an MIT graduate fighting terrorists (also MIT graduates)
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How do we fix his dogshit abilities?
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>>584736714
Yeah Lash's
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Violet is just Mina but written by a retard
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>>584737502
worse in every way
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>>584737049
meant for below
>>584736123
she would also resent art after becoming living ink, and question if becoming an artist was ever worth it; struggling with self-doubt on the side as well.
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>>584737481
Riot can't make a good game that survives to save their life

See: literally everything they've made in the last decade (besides tft of course)
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>>584737172
>artist's self-insert
If anything, she got pushed on by the board to include "normal" and "waifu" character for the patch to balance out the two geezers and three monster characters.
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All the Violet seethe is the music to my ears, keep it coming. It's so funny
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>>584737502
I think they flubbed harrow but drifter looks like an improvement other than he doesn't look as crazy.
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>>584737502
thanks I hate it
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>Like Infernus
>Don't like Solomon
I don't get it
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I don’t mind lefties shoehorning their garbage into media 2bh but the gatekeeping of all opposition views leads the world to be very one sided and incomplete
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>>584737481
if they make it a baby mode MOBA for e daters then yea
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>>584737632
>drifter is an improvement
yeah and I was born on the alien planet purple narple
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>Chinese girl self-insert degrades Asian males and white women
I'm noticing
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>>584737481
didn't val die? only dudes I knew irl that played it dropped it years ago
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>>584737631
Pretending you're amused and not seething doesn't work when you keep spamming.
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>>584737550
By having people stop building him as M1. I was absolutely dogshit with his M1 til I decided to do a dash build. My God it's so much better.
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>>584737395
Kek, appreciate that one anon.
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>>584737512
vyper is an actual, degenerate girlfailure. violet is like the weenie hut jr. liberal imitation of that
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>>584735493
metro was giga mogging on her tonight thoughbeit
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>>584737631
Here you go anon, since you need it so bad...
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>>584737502
>theyre dehaggifying her already

Yoshi knows which way the money flows
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I dont understand why they needed to force in the usual asian american meme tropes

Violet is already an artist
Focus on her obsession with making a masterpiece to the point that shes willing to kill for it
Or sell her soul to the devil to the point that she loses sight of the beauty of art

There
Her character is fixed
No parental drama
No impostor syndrome

You dont need anything else
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Violet won
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>Build Danny mixed damage before buffs
>Steamroll games
>Epic "pro" streamers tell me I'm building him wrong
>Build Spirit post buffs and ignore gun outside of lane
>He fucking sucks shit
>Remember I've been playing MOBA for longer than most people ITT have been alive

remember to ignore literally everything you read online
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its up
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>Rat King and Solomon just needs to ult an objective once to be able to win every team fight
What bullshit.
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>>584736123
My suggestion: Make it so that she was a genuinely good but wholly unrecognized and struggling immigrant artist whose parents had little faith in her choice of career. In a twist of fate, however, she ended up being a natural at the arcane arts, and her use of magic ended up being the "secret sauce" that she needed to actually make her works stand out. However, as she started getting notoriety, her works got acclaim, and she was accepted into exclusive colleges, she felt massive imposter syndrome due to needing the arcane arts to do what her peers could do with their own "natural" talents. This ended up festering until she wound up hating her own magical abilities, even if she still needed to use them to have a foot in the art world. After hearing about thew Ritual, she attended it with a single wish in mind: get rid of her magic for GOOD in exchange for becoming a master of the arts.
This way you get to keep her le quirky sarcastic liberal arts girl schtick while ALSO giving her an edge she's sorely lacking (hiding self-loathing behind a big layer of irony). It'd bolster her relationship with Billy because they bonded over something she genuinely feels passionate about (progressive causes) and honestly it'd ALSO make Seven's glaze of her abilities make more sense because he'd instead be like "you're a great painter and a great mage, trading one for the other is fucking retarded when you can just keep getting better at both" because it's been shown that he's not averse to recognizing the strengths of those he's around even if he considers himself better.
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violet is legit written like one of those deadlock ao3 self-insert ocs it drives me up the fucking wall how accurate that is
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Violet has iPhone face
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My Asian girlfriend that plays Deadlock with me dislikes Violet too, citing the usual writing and self insert criticism.
AMA
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>Focus on her obsession with making a masterpiece to the point that shes willing to kill for it
this would be kino
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>>584737395
nice
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>>584737838
More like have her be the Ellis of Deadlock. Her current motivation is she is entering the ritual to get her name out there, as she says talent doesn't matter as much as who you know or who knows you.

So her lines should be referencing all of the art stunts she did to get her name out there. They can even reference real world art retardation like banana taped to the wall. That way joining the ritual is the final act of a desperate artist who tried everything first, rather than just a nothing story that goes from doing nothing to doing a murder ritual.
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>brownoids really wanting to paint Violet as an LGBT character just because she says that Silver is hot
Nah. She's just fucking boring. That's all there is to it.
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So if Paige's brother is a Lich, what's Lenny supposed to be?
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>>584736123
>in the past she made a set of extremely cursed paintings
>when people look at them, they're fucked in some way (lobotomized? go crazy? transform into a monster? something like that) and the only way to revert it would be to completely erase the existence of the paintings physically and in memory
>she shows it to other people, not knowing that they would affect people that way, like passing them around in underground artist circles and hitting her friends and maybe family with them
>her wish is to erase the existence and memory of a cursed set of paintings to cure the afflicted people
so instead of being... whatever the fuck she is right now, she hates her past and all the stupid shit she did back then because she wanted approval from that wrong crowd of fucked up AWCY?-tier faggots, she would act way more tortured and sombre (this also would fit the VA better imo), understanding that she made many mistakes and wants to make up for them and find a new path in her life
drawing (haha) inspiration from my own experience as an artist here
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>>584737982
updoot
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At least Violet won’t get a meme from Yoshi now
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>>584737481
valorant is already riot’s response to deadlock. They would only ever try to compete with DL directly by fixing Valorant. They’re not going to make another shooter.
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>>584737838
>Violet is already an artist
>Focus on her obsession with making a masterpiece to the point that shes willing to kill for it
>Or sell her soul to the devil to the point that she loses sight of the beauty of art

this could also explain her powers where her obsession manifests itself after she literally spills blood on her brush and palette
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>>584738016
carnival act
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>>584737972
>She's written poorly

By design. She's not intended to be nuanced, she's intended to lure those types of people into playing the game.
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>>584736123
Sadistic hippy-dippy artist who believes heavily in "suffering for art" and joins the ritual to get up close to the thrill of carnage and death.
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>>584738016
Lenny's gonna Lenny
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>>584737723
>purple nurple
>burple nurple
Would you give a free sample to an ugly lady?
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>>584737889
>lash solomon ratking dynamo seven all on the same team
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I kinda wanna learn to draw just so I can work on my own Deadlock character concept since I know my own terrible ideas apparently pass the bar now
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>>584737972
OK, discord tranny
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>>584737982
what’s her cup size
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>>584737868
Where sir
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ambitious = gains boons per stun
nimble = infinite slide
creative = gesture abilities

strict = forces enemies to stay in an area?
terrifying = medusa stone gaze?
savior = cheat death on allies?
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>>584738179
B
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>>584737986
Theres like 1000 different ways she could've been written more well with no effort and they chose the worst option possible

'oh i'm just here for clout :)'

I literally refuse to believe this isnt some writers pathetic self insert
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The next batch of heroes will contain 0 women.
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>>584737561
EVERYONE takes Lash's bwc apparently. kek
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>>584737502
Genuinely where can I go to give feedback that the eyebags look better?
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where the FUCK is my LENNY HERO I'M WAITING YOSHI, TICK TOCK you green FUCK.
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HARROW STILL LOOKS GOOD BROS

SHE JUST NEEDS HER EYEBAGS BACK
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>>584738231
ESPECIALLY Miss Shelly
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>>584738121
radda radda RADDA RADDA RADDA radda radada!
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I remember when I thought Harrow was gonna have a Fear effect cause of the Be Afraid poster but after Violet I have 0 idea what to expect
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>>584738256
I liked the shape of the old lips better.
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>>584738207
usually one of the tags just pertains to their character personality
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>>584738228
Yup, it's insane. They could've done a dozen things to spice her up and chose literally nothing.
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can someone post the :3 yamato i need it
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>>584738256
yeah bring back the eyebags NOW
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>>584738228
should I email gabe about this hero to get her removed from the game or at least looked into by gabe
there's no fucking way gabe would approve of this shit
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>>584738256
Quite literally everything except the colour of the lipstick is a downgrade what the fuck.
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>>584736123
>Violet's an exorcist that pulls a Ghostbuster on spirits by capturing them in literal 'still-life' paintings (also works on the living to a lesser extent)
>her excorcism paintings are cursed in a manner where viewing them is to be avoided (some shit like the excorcism lock becomes weaker as more people view it, and it eventually frees the spirit that was trapped), which means that all of her artworks are to be essentially shelved and buried
>artist's ego wants to find a way to basically show her still-lifes; a sort of perverse exhibition of the evil that she's trapped
>she's really shit at drawing landscapes for some unnatural reason which is why she doesnt' just get good at that instead, and her innate excorcist powers renders her unable to do still-lifes with actual living subjects (that she doesn't want to harm)
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>>584737982
When I told my hapa wife that the new character is an Asian-American art student she grimaced. She is so insanely racist towards the 2nd gen types that it's hard to believe
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>>584738395
calm down sister
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>>584738251
Lenny will come out with Maximilian Fairfax, the Adversary, Valerie the Rat Princess, and Slork
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Asian women should stop writing stories. They can only write themselves.
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>>584736120
Sinclair: to separate
Holliday: catch some guy
Calico: to kill pocket/clear up her assassin past
Vyper: dont know, clear off debt
Mina: no idea, had to google it
Billy: to become human again
Paige: no idea
Doorman: he does it for fun, and the baroness is close
Victor: to find out more about himself
Drifter: no idea, probably to kill someone
Apollo: no idea
Celeste: no idea, become the best performer
Graves: no idea, masturbate with her hand
Rem: to go back home
Silver: no idea
Venator: to kill even more monsters
Nurse: to become immortal or to find a cure to all diseases
Danny: no idea
Baba: no idea
Solomon: no idea
Rat King: to rule over New York
Violet: no idea
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>>584737982
how small is her dick?
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>>584738292
She has a buildup fear like love bites
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was this character some make-a-wish foundation stint for some kid?
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>>584738395
Unironically yes. Not removed but definitely reworked
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3 word horror story
violet wins vote
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They rigged it today to make sure Harrow comes out Tuesday. Saving the best for last. They knew Violet would leave a lot of people on a sour note if she was last.
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>>584738463
as long as valerie is a normal rat with a pink bow, maybe
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>>584738395
if your serious do it, this character is dogshit.
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>>584737868
That neck seem is poorly done

Also I hope Geist BTFO’s her
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>>584738463
>Maximilian Fairfax
this guy without the lich hand is literally just 'normal adult film-star-looking guy'
but hey they put violet into the game so anything's possible atp lol
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how many TF2 medic references are we getting boys
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The hero that raped /dlg/
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Bros how do I do well as Victor? I get fucked even when I senpai a lot...
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>>584736776
he's kinda clearly the main antagonist of the 'story'
every character interaction is based around giving him more aura
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>>584736084
Most likely another batch of 6 as Valve said they wanted at least 50 characters
We'll probably get some item/map changes in the intermedium
We'll also probably see the PvE mode too
Once we have all that, then I can see them inching towards a 1.0 release
Do note that Valve also said that the game in its current state is nowhere close to being ready for release, so probably late 2027-2028 or even beyond would be when the game comes out
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>>584738498
You don't know that
Nobody knows anything
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>>584738629
how did she do it
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Harrow lost.
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>DUDE we're smoking WEED
this took me out
It's an alt history fantasy game nigga, put some soul in it. Say you're smoking unicorn dust or moon ashes or some made up magic drug.
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>>584738256
what exactly are we looking at here? Did they change her model from the previous leaks?
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>>584738229
I find the people calling other mysogonistic for voting violet so low incredibly stupid, completely ignoring the existence of baba.
Honestly deadlock players I've found are usually pretty good about treating girls on mic nicely compared to many other games. As long as they aren't shit at the game I don't care.
Brainrotted twitter virtue signalers don't even play the game.
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>>584738697
There was a datamine of her status effect symbols
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>>584737104
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>>584738712
by being mind numbingly boring
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>>584738742
she just said she got high she didn’t specifiy it was pot
could have been fent
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>>584738712
By being boring that it assaults the media literacy fags.
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Sorry for calling him deadname tranny bros, he's been very fun, probably gonna be in my top 3.
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>>584736120
Doesn’t Drifter want the ritual to continue forever? So he can feed more?
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People unironically voted for this character btw
Just let that sink in
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>got killed for baba and violet
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>>584738829
>>584738742

Shes chink so its clearly opium
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>>584736475
This shit being said in an ironic fashion while in the meantime Violet is genuinely friends with the walking anti-establishment rain puddle that is Billy is one of the worst parts of this "character".
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>>584738971
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>>584738572
thoughts? I'm not the best at writing professional emails
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>>584739007
We should've gotten Boho and Cadence in place of them
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>>584738256
I like the mole, but the eyelashes are a bit much and if anyone should have heavy eyebags, it's the surgeon. That permanently sleep-deprived look fits her perfectly and gives her design so much personality so I have no idea why they'd get rid of it
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>>584739021
billy being friends with violet is the most inoffensive thing about her, they are both listless 20 somethings
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Remember, with Fairfax Industries, all's fair.
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>>584738964
he's the only character where you could say is doing it for fun
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>>584738463
>>584738570
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I am forgotten...........
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>>584739063
>mf is actually doing it
KEK
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>>584739070
yes let's have even more unoriginal hapa face characters it really is what this game needs
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>>584735781
Sex with Billy
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>>584739063
Drop the "muh powers" stuff, it undermines the main point that her characterization is terrible and unlikable
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>>584737639
Infernus is written well
Solomon is written poorly
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>>584739063
looks fine
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>>584739021
Violet ruins other characters by talking to them, it's beautiful
It's like an Anti-Midas where instead of gold everything she touches turns to feces
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>>584738596
Why does Pocket's Dad have Chun Li thighs
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>>584737502
But Drifter currently looks like his before look
Valve has shown that they'll go back and change things like this
Plus there's also Apollo who got vastly improved with another art pass
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>>584738256
>Harrow gets last so they try to make her look a bit less old
lol
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>open official discord
>click lore tab just to see if anyone else has noticed the inconsistencies with Violet
>nothing but trans and non-binary discussion
Why? Why is it not possible to just talk about the fucking video game?
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>>584736134
Whatttt!!!a?a?!
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>>584739207
>Rem as child replacement
lel
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>>584738675
>Do note that Valve also said that the game in its current state is nowhere close to being ready for release
When was this?
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>>584739193
Because she talks in twitterisms. What she says doesn't reveal anything about her or them, and because she's a nothing character, other characters have nothing to say to her.
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>>584739063
Focus more on her characterization and backstory, not powers, and how it ruins the setting
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>>584739157
>Bohemian white woman
>An Ixian woman
>but they're half Asian or something bwo
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>>584738596
This art of Maximilian pisses me off because his suit is WAY too tight. Absolutely shit tailoring job. It doesn't even have a breastpocket.
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>>584739253
Because zoomoids unironically cannot talk about anything that isn't gender or racial politics.
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I'm going to leave the Chimera Mk 1 a negative review and Deadman Danny cannot stop me because his jetpack is too slow.
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>>584738596
is this really Pocket's dad? Pocket looks like nothing to him
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>>584739063
You beautiful bastard
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>>584739346
they have the exact same face nigga, pocket mina violet boho ALL LOOK THE SAME
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>>584739349
hey dude maybe he packed on some muscle
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>>584739253
They came in when Celeste released.
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>>584739095
I presume the longer eyelashes makes her design more clear when viewed from further away (this kind of distance you'd see her in-game), but looks excessive on a closeup like this
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>>584739431
Pocket takes after his mom, who is Asian.
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>>584739151
The potential woman posting is really funny in retrospect
No nigger you made a poster's vandalism way more interesting than the actual character
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>>584739431
Pocket inherited all of his mom's korean genes or something
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Haven't checked this thread in a while. What's the verdict on the new characters?
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>>584739431
>white guy marries an asian and has hapa kids with barely any resemblance
a tale as old as time
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>>584739362
do you have any idea how long it took danny to rummage in mcginnis's dumpster for the abandoned jetpack that doesn't work most of the time?
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Seen like 4 porn artists give up on drawing Violet in real time because of how boring she is even with the Silver baiting lmao
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>>584738091
>she's intended to lure those types of people into playing the game.
But how does that work when the playerbase by and large already hates the character and will most certainly dogpile someone who came in just for said character?
That sounds like a surefire way to drive them away
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>>584738971
Bugmen are not people.
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>>584737191
All she's good for
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>billy's character is that he's an angry retard with no redeeming qualities or goal
>new interactions give him redeeming qualities
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>>584739571
Not even a LoRA made. Even AI artists don't care.
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>>584736120
list based on how interesting their wish/motivation is

VERY engaging and/or important to the character
>sinclair (divorce lmao)
>holliday (revenge against the troubadour, he killed her sister)
>vyper (wants to live a vapid luxurious life)

interesting, it works
>mina (viscount)
>billy (no idea, but not knowing wtf he wants is part of his deal so it works, he'd probably stutter and not know what to say when he wins like a moron, or actually has a really good one that comes as a surprise, or just a joke like getting rid of the goat head but any option is interesting)
>paige (fix her brother situation)
>rem (wants to go home)
>rat king (wants to make rattania in long island)
>silver (wants out of her shithole life, not as funny as how it's framed on vyper though)

okay i guess but too unfocused
>danny (he's a walking ad, he's just there to show off as far as we know but there could be more to him)
>apollo (proving himself to his dad, more interested in the journey than the destination i.e. wish not sure what he'd ask for)
>graves (probably get the lich hand her body back)
>venator (seems more interested to kill the opposing patron than anything else)

their reason to be there is almost handwaved like it's not relevant
>doorman (he's only there to flex on the mortals honestly)
>drifter (no idea, i think he straight up just took the opportunity to kill people)
>baba (something about some punks ruining NY?)
>solomon (just fucking around because he's a furtive nigger)

IDK
>calico (idk, money?? genuinely no idea)
>violet (idk)
>harrow (we don't know about this one)
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>>584739495
Rat: Good, Reddit
Baba: Not well written but overall okay
Solomon: Yakub, lacking motivation but he's fine
Danny: Our top guy
Violet: Shit on the floor
Harrow: MIA
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>>584739151
I am so genuinely confused by this now that she's out. Like, what did they mean by this? What does this have to do with her character in the slightest?
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>>584737025
Was the Ranked patch a major patch?
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I want to see Warden conversations REEEEEEEEEEEEE
BEFORE ITS TOO LATE AND THEY MAKE HIM A FAGGOT
THE LONGER IT GOES THE MORE SQUANDERED HE’LL BE
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>>584739495
Rat King is very straightforward
Solomon is more of a magic nigga than a hustler and his kit is less high IQ and more spam
Baba is disgustingly overtuned and has an annoying Jew voice for some reason
Deadman is kino but weak
Violet is so fucking garbage as a character it activated DEFCON 1 meltdown across the internet with associated damage control following
Harrow is not out yet
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Reminder: Nurse Harrow LOST.
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>>584739447
Mina and Violet, yes. Boho however is fucking white.
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>>584739151
>Poster has more character than your actual character
How
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>>584739702
the "this is my moment" line does sound gay as fuck actually
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>>584739603
he's only friendly with the rat king because he thinks he'll be treated well in the furry CHAZ, it's unironically the best addition to his backstory
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>>584739603
It actually strengthens his characterization
He's literally only nice to fellow New Yorkers (and Violet too but that doesn't count)
He's an insufferable NEW YORK STATE OF MIND BABY cunt
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>/dlg/ is actually defending Violet
the absolute fucking state of this general
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>>584739702
Warden's gonna Warden, am I right?
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>>584739207
Lmao
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>>584739253
you don't get it anon. Trans people NEED to project onto any fictional character
they can CONSTANTLY or they will DIE instantly. It's heckin gender affirmation chud!1!11!!
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>>584739471
I've been here since Shiv was released actually.
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>>584737863
can you tell me your bluid wisdom anon.

t.- new player that also wants to be a contrarian.
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>>584737481
Riot's Deadlock would just be Oops All Violets
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I've noticed something while researching Violet reactions online, especially on Twitter
>bro why are you so toxic don't bully Violet she didn't do anything to you don't be so negative
Why are they acting like those fictional characters are real people that you're hurting? They're fake creations of developers. By criticising them it implicitly targets the REAL people at Valve that wrote and designed them.
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Alright, show me your screenshots or videos of drawing nazi symbols in game to fuck with the enemies now.
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>>584739792
some of you are acting hysterical for no reason. reminds me of when billy was first added actually.
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flopping doggy knotcock
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>>584739792
>anons never heard of irony
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>>584739316
>>584739432
Dear Gabe,

I hope this finds you well, but I’m interested in something recent that has occurred in one of your newer games; this game being titled “Deadlock”.

In it, there is a character named “Violet”, who is an artist. However, there are several problems with this character’s writing from a simple observation. Many people within the community share these criticisms:

Firstly: Her characterization is unlikable. Her bio tells us she’s got a full ride to art school and a place in MoMA’s Upstart Gallery, but her entire motivation is a fear of not being seen. She isn’t fighting for anything or anyone, just for more exposure, and her dialogue does nothing to really make up for that. The clearest example is her kill line on Paige: “She’s like me if I was white and more neurotic.” This line reduces another character to her race and a pop-psychology label, and it tells us nothing about Violet other than that she is the kind of person who would say it.

Secondly: She does not sound like she belongs in the setting. Deadlock takes place in the 1940s, yet lines like the one above, or “the government doesn’t give a shit about what I paint” in her exchange with Seven, read like something from a modern group chat. Her conversation with Seven is actually one of her better moments, since she holds her ground. But even then, a lot of her lines read like contemporary deadpan, rather than someone who actually has a life in the Cursed Apple.

Other heroes in the roster have their flaws, but they have charm or depth to them that helps balance them out. Violet mostly has a very-modern, misplaced attitude, and given how strong the writing is for the rest of the cast, she stands out. I would very much like to see her receive another pass.

Thank you sincerely for your time.

Sincerely,
ANONYMOUS


is this good?
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>>584739103
Right, so why is she calling Graves out for being a generically disaffected teen because her parents neglect her, when Billy has absolutely no good fucking reason to be so vehemently anti-establishment and has nothing constructive to do with his rambling but apparently this isn't a problem for Violet at all? She's calling Graves shallow while being friends with a guy who has all the depth of a thimble.
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>>584739007
She's still in the game files and got new abilities
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niggertranny woke dei character design how did it beat harrow
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>>584739891
You have to be 18 or older to post on 4channel.
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>>584738256
that mole is too erotic, how am I supposed to focus on the game?
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Is there a way to play Danny without being a ex-pro tf2 movement troon? I just want to be the jetpack guy with a rocket launcher.
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>>584739719
I was actually thinking they rigged the votes so they can have more time to rework Harrow. I didn't see a single Violet voter in my games. It wouldn't be surprising because Violet feels unfinished and hastily made, and there are even anons datamining that she was actually supposed to be Invoker.
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>>584739910
See, she calls Graves shallow because she's a woman. But Billy doesn't get the same criticism because she wants to fuck Billy.
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>>584739883
Something "People will treat fictional characters like they're real and real people like they're fictional and get mad at you for knowing the difference."
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>>584739786
>he's only nice to an entire state
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>>584739883
Violet was designed to be a self insert so people are self inserting as her, ergo any negative talk about her is negative talk about them
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the nurse harrow voters craved humiliation anyway
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>>584739910
she relates to the bohemian loser her own age more than the younger girl with a mouth on her
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>>584739907
I'll buy you flowers if you actually email this to Gabe
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how fucked up would it be if heavy melees weren't homogenized

imagine if some heavies came out faster or did less damage or had a larger hitbox or moved you forwards more
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>violets ult also blocks her own teams line of sight

wow this is total dogshit
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>Victor is the least used tank hero now
What happened? I rarely see this guy compared to the rest of the tanks in the game.
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>>584739910
Because she's friends with Billy and goes to protests with him, while Graves sulks in graveyards by herself.
It turns out you like the people you know, and dislike the people you don't.
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>>584738256
Our punishment for losing the vote to the Koreans and Japanese is getting a shittier model of Harrow...
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Just played my first match on Violet she's so much fun
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>>584739907
Yes
Send it
Also send it to Yoshi since Gaben is retired
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>>584738256
What I like
>Sexo eyelashes
>Sexo mole
>Sexo lipstick
What I don't like
>Lack of eyebags
>Not as pale skin
>Lips aren't as pursed
>Jaw is a bit too sharp
>Angular glasses are a miss for me
They got the pieces to make something incredible here, they just need to mix and match them properly
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the fucking lenny lines are pure reddit
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>>584740072
he unironicly takes skill and is balanced. It's a hard pill to swallow for bricklows but it's just how it is.
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>>584739151
Looking at Nurse Harrow damaged poster (Be afraid), or Baba's (Pigeon eye showing she's not an innocent lady), it makes sense that people would think she was special
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>>584739907
Send it with my blessings and post a response if it exists
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>>584737982
Your trans boyfriend will never be a woman.
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>>584740096
The thumbnail makes her look bustier than she actually is
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>>584740068
If I get ulted by Violet, am I trapped or can I simply just walk out?
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lenny lennied deep in mo’s ass
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>>584739495
>Rat King
furbait, has a good design and serviceable writing, is exactly what it says on the tin, boring but strong kit
>Baba
mid VA and some of her dialogue is cringe, overtuned but very fun kit
>Solomon
is not so bad actually but lacks some bite there could be improvements to the way he's characterized, very fun kit though but not as complicated and strategic as it seemed
>Danny
/OUR/ fucking hero, is written like he's a prick but he wins every engagement respectably and is refreshing because he's not quippy or cunty just bombastic and obsessed with fairfax, extremely cool kit but really undertuned numbers
>Violet
vomitive character, absolute garbage, genuinely fire whoever wrote her immediately, this is abhorrent, her kit is fine i guess
>Harrow
wait a few days
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>>584739935
People are tired of chuds shitting up the world. Voting Violet is just a way to make the chuds squirm a little bit.

>>584740072
He's miserable to play until last 30% of the match duration.
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why is violet written like they took an actual art student from 2026 and put them in the game
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>>584740072
Nobody wants to farm for 20 minutes before joining a single fight. Victor is just boring if you play him the right way.
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Guys
GUYS
What if she summoned a Tiger?
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im trans and i dont like violet. i wanted harrow. what now, chuddy?
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>>584740193
You can walk out, if you're an enemy you take damage+silence when crossing the wall.
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>>584740147
>he unironicly takes skill
Since when? The only tank that still takes skill to use is Shiv. Possibly Billy in higher elo. What does Victor have that requires skill?
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>>584740298
Yeah, your ugly ass would identify with Harrow.
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>>584740298
I kneel and tremble before your wisdom
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>>584740039
>>584740115
>>584740174
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>>584740298
r/deadlock welcomes you buddy
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>>584739151
I was yaoguai theory believer even though I didn't vote for her, but in the end I'd still rather be disappointed than doompost
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>>584739151
Whoever on the team that did this graphic was really trying to make Violet look like she had anything going on
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>>584740298
Same to be honest.
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What characters are late game heroes? I'm still learning Drifter and noticed he just shreds people late game, as well as learning not to team fight as him and try to pick people off and quickly get the fuck out.
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>>584740370
MY FUCKING KNEES
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>>584740370
I already can tell your name is Ian
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>>584740323
since they gutted his spirit scaling and made him spike earlier. he only can afk farm into a win in bricklow where no one buys silencer or antiheal
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THERE STILL NO FUCKING HERO FEEDBACK FOR VIOLET ON THE FORUMS

YOSHI OPEN THE THREAD RIGHT NOW
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I find Solomon far more disappointing. Cool design completely wasted on the most boring wise magical negro trope ever and an atrocious accent.
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>>584740203
>but really undertuned numbers

This isnt really true anymore, they giga buffed his numbers
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>>584740370
Kino
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>>584739007
Boho's still in the files and got updated
As did Cadence and Slork
We'll see them soon enough
Just have faith



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