>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Guilds<Daybreak Company> NA RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj<Fun Havers> NA PvEhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w<Wrench> EU PvEhttps://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVBThread Theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z29Rk8814w>Previous Thread >>584840583
I've played healer since forever. How's the experience of playing a DPS from 1 to 60? And a tank?
>>584869363>all guilds PvElmao
>>584869497>since foreverForever hasn't even released yet.
people play WoW for PvP?sounds stupid lol
>>584869363><Daybreak Company> NA RP PvE>https://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj><Fun Havers> NA PvE>https://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w><Wrench> EU PvE>https://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVBwhy the fuck are everyone such pvefags?
Long Eared Roster;1. Sky Elf Male ( Fair Skinned ) Arcane Mage ( Engineer Enchanter )2. Sky Elf Male ( Blue Skinned ) Balance Druid ( Enchanting and Herbalism )3. Night Elf Male Resto && Bear Druid ( Alchemy and Herbalism )4. Night Elf Male Cat Druid ( Leatherworking and Skinning )Horde:5. Troll Male Survival Hunter ( Leatherworking and Skinning )
I don't play mage so I don't get arcane in pve. Don't you just immediately go oom if you use arcane power in combination with arcane blast?Sure you got evocation, but even arcane blast on its own sound like it will suck you dry in no time.
>>584869554pvp realms are always more popular than pve, even on the forever beta. raiding is the real minigame of wow.
ngl if it was a big clique streamer that did what jerome did, everyone would be on their sidejerome is right, even though he is a disgusting methhead freak
>>584869584Que up for a BG if you want to PvP, lil gup.
>>584868505
>>584869554Nah that shit is retarded af everyone saying they're rolling pvp are baiting
am I right in my impression that raiding as a healer feels more impactful than dps?As a dps you fire your rotation at a boss with a dozen other players and all you can really see is your name on the damage meter.As a healer you are responsible for a couple more healthbars and see the immediate effect of your spells. It seems like your contribution feels more tangible.Tank obviously beats both but I am not caring about that rn.
Still waiting for Gnome shamans
>>584869619Jerome lacks things like tact and self-awareness, with which he might have been able to articulate his position. I'm surprised Savix didn't realize he was playing in a gimmick tournament with scrubs who unironically don't have the wherewithal to pull off a big headed play like resetting the duel. I salute Jerome for going out like a stalwart king and refusing to bend the knee to faggot tournament jannies. Because he didn't call tips a stupid nigger and kept it civil but real as fuck he's probably also locked himself a spot in OnlyFangs. The methhead dream continues!
>>584869867>and kept it civil
>>584869645uses tobey mcguire reaction images after he officiated the wedding of his jewish ex-wife to a nigger
>>584869554no one cares about blue minigame, it's all about red minigame
>>584869763playing whack-a-mole with your raid frames is fun and all but 99% of people only care about whos topping the damage meter
>>584869554Well you tried playing it for pve and it got so shit they had to make this soft reset of the game.
OGRES
>>584869949He did, considering he was being threatened with total disqualification from the tournament, and all he said was you're doing a bad job here. Another dude just had to redo a duel and he told the tournament janny to suck his fucking cock, that's also based but not civil.
>>584869497>DPSQuick solo open world questing but it takes time to get into dungeons.>tankTanks are great for both dungeons and open world questing but prepare to dps/heal at 60 unless you make your own guild.
>>584869653very nice, once mistake is her missing the tabard/crotch curtain
>>584870007this is a great picture.You can see that the Ogre has hope.
Has pshero been awake and playing the game for 36 hours? what kind of coke do they have in bulgaria?
>8 points into resto tree to get 5% to hit and 50% constant mana regenIsn't this the ideal way to open any shaman leveling build?
>>584870007ogre mage or shaman would be kino
>>584870293Yeah, keep going further and further down into resto totem boy.
>>584870293water shield is extremely good too, it doesn't even interrupt regen
still cant decide if i want to go druid or shaman
>>584870293Yes but you'll have the downside of getting other big talents like stormstrike 8 levels later than you normally would.
>>584870007I want an ogre shaman so bad bros. I wouldn't even care if my class was still the worst.
>>584869984what feels subjectively rewarding is in the end subjective I guess, big revelationI'll just try both
>>584870462You'd rather be casting lightning shield while leveling to kill mobs faster
>>584870462pretty tempted to keep going and get water shield so I basically never have to worry about mana while leveling. Didn't get to test shaman specs really though since got banned for name at level 20. how does mana with improved stormstrike feel?
>>584870584>roll ogre shaman>double cast chain lightnings>name myself Ogre Magi
>>584869984this is the fundamental reason healing sucks. if there were any other more intuitive and natural way to do it that felt something like what it feels like to play any other role, it would be great. but you're literally just playing whack a mole. Forever. It's horrible.
Warrior for fun tanking pve but dogshit pvpPriest for fun pvp but boring dogshit pve.I cant decide...
>>584869605PvP realms are fun because the world feels more organic and alive. There are real, unpredictable threats and you're incentivized to level in areas dominated by your faction. Sneaking inside enemy areas feels pretty thrilling because you're not supposed to be there and you can get targetted by players at any time. Neutral areas are high level by design, and even then the areas have clear horde/alliance footholds.Sometimes you get fucked, and the area you want to quest is full of enemy players camping. But that in itself is part of what makes the realms feel alive, you have to adapt and find other spots, or make a group and fight the campers back. PvE has none of that, it's just a race from 1 to 60 leveling in the most optimal zones your paid guide tells you to without any external variables affecting the questing experience. It feels sterile and boring.But the actual real PvP modes suck. Dungeons and raids are the most fun part of wow.
>>584870685Go Druid for fun but boring dogshit PVE and boring dogshit but fun PVP
>>584869763>am I right in my impression that raiding as a healer feels more impactful than dps?Being a dps can be insanely brain dead. You can be doing nothing but spamming a single button like shadow bolt.Healing is more engaging since you're looking at meters, reacting to whats happening, predicting damage to queue up a heal, making choices constantly, ect.
>>584870685When prot warrior is tuned correctly it's great in group pvp. Tons of utility and mitigation gives you time to make a difference. If all you're considering is stupid 1v1 duels you should probably just kill yourself now
>>584870040Good. Shamans should be deleted from the game but delegating them to one off buff sissies is next best thing.
>>584870816That would be the most logical thing to do but I just dont like Druid. Paladin too.
>>584870607i knew some fucking genius would say thatyou can still make good use of water shield, while also using lightning shield much of the time
>>584869828Same bro. I don't wanna be a dwarf...
>>584870685Warriors are insane in pvp when you have a healer. 1v1 duels are a meme.
Shaman seems like a fun healer at 60 but they're the most popular class so you'll never get gear and will always get kicked out of raid content if you're not in a guild
>>584870881I will be putting WF embue on my weapon and I will not be putting down WF totem because my personal damage is increased by GoA totem.
>>584870745> fantasy epic 1v1s in the open world> realityyou getting ganked while leveling for 40 mins straightyeh... no thanks im going pve.
why are retail devs so obsessed with lava burstliterally 0 classic players want that shit
>>584870896You'd have to invest another 3 points into resto to get water shield which is the big reason it's not worth. Slight totem cost reduction and water shield is NOT worth delaying your enh talents by another 3 levels.
>>584871018>you getting ganked while leveling for 40 mins straightThings that never happens
Blizzard devs make it so that my progress carries over okayer? gooder
>>584870943>but they're the most popular classlol what the fuck are you talking about? are you looking at the ai slop site showing race / class combos that says dwarf shaman is the most popular thing on alliance? hunter is going to be the most popular class then warrior and paladin.
>>584871049im just spitballing nigger, i dont need your stupid fucking analysis
Secret to a PvP server is you level 2 characters at once. Just log on the other if you're getting butt fucked.
>>584870943>Shaman>the most popular classLOL!That's paladin.Always was and always will be.
>>584871048Drawing new icons is too difficult for calarts graduates and their AI can't match the style of existing icons.
>>584870919>when you have a healerThats generally the problem, I don't like constantly having to rely on random people.
>>584871073your in denial, thats literally all world pvp is.
>>584871254then don't play a warrior?
>>584871148the vast majority of hunters will also simply be quickly leveling to 60 to create an item and gold surplus and then moving on to their actual main and not doing any end-game content. these numbers are all totally meaningless and people should just play their class. you know what your class is.
>>584871048I like lava burstAlso>retailIt's a wrath ability, dumb newfag
>>584871073Nta but I've played the game long enough to see all sorts of stupid shit (mostly from the horde subhumans)Not just ganking, but deliberately killing quest npcs and camping flight masters for literally days.Also this ain't 2008 anymore, sometimes I just have to bail for a minute and I prefer to come back to my character being alive instead of gy running.
>>584870745Nah, I only get 18 hours a day to play, i'm not wanting to waste time waiting for the quest hub i need to empty out of the opposite faction just so i can do my quest there.
>>584870919pretty sure every class is really good if they have a pocket healer making sure they cant die
>>584871151>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>584871158>just double your leveling time bro
>>584871018>>584871327PvE is the retirement home for 40+ yo. players to enjoy the game. No shame about it. Old people deserve to enjoy wow forever too.
>>584871382the average pvp player is a 41 year old french canadian man with the emotional maturity of an inner city delinquent.
>>584871315Any version of wow that has flying is retail, especially any that has lfg. It's definitely not vanilla just like dual wielding enh shaman isn't in classic+ despite that being before lava burst in tbc.
>>584871158You avoid getting ganked by poopsocking at the start of fresh so you get ahead of the level curve.
warlocks are gonna get nerfed because of this retard fucking tournament right ? if they nerf sl im done
>>584871048maybe its some tantric buddhist symbolism. many people dont know this but the intellectual higher up types are obsessed with tantric buddhism. lightning is a big theme in that, and shaman is the lightning wielding class, so, not sure how lava plays into it but yeah
>>584871382pve is for the gigachads who dont have to " prove" themselves in a videogame and just want to play in peace.
>>584871478Nobody cares, vanilla isn't even the best version overall. It's just a good foundation to make new stuff for without introducing aids that is flying, herilooms, scaling, etc.
>>584871568>vanilla isn't even the best version overalllol
>>584871536If they do I'm refunding, not because I give a shit about warlocks, they can be OP for all I care, but because Blizz said they won't balance around 1v1 pvp and it would go against that directly.
>>584871382This isn't some fantasy PvP realm you imagined twenty years ago.On Classic people camped every single hotspot in the world, just getting to BRD could turn into a 30 minute ordeal.There aren't going to be epic 1vs1 encounters by chance, some degenerate sitting in Redridge/Stonetalon can make the entire zone unplayable for your faction.
>>584871646>but because Blizz said they won't balance around 1v1 pvpThey already did that when they ruined ele shaman and said specifically its because they don't like how ele shaman can burst someone to death in pvp.
>>584871551>Has to call himself gigachad to feel better about playing the castrated version of the gameNot a good look
>>584871712You sound like a massive pussy.
>>584871597That's right chuddie. That's why everyone is asking for shit like Mt Hyjal which was already in Cata. It's why lava blast is now in the game. Pure vanilla cannot compete.
It's OK to play on pve servers. No one thinks less of you. You don't have to keep inventing rare and hypothetical scenarios as justification. There is no need to overcompensate.
Herb+Alchemy or Tailor+Enchant for warlick?
Healing is different to DPS but I never understood it when people say it's more cerebral than DPS. it's the one role where things get more and more braindead as people get gear (tanks or DPS). The role feels more and more trivialised as your group scales and the difficulty of the content. No matter how hard or easy the content gets you still have to execute your rotations regardless of how geared the raid is as a DPS. You can go from very interesting gameplay during progression to absolute boredom. People just don't play it.
Retail didn't become "Retail" until Legion. If you point at any spell or feature added before legion and call it "retail" you are a retard, a faggot, and also a nigger.
>>584871784Tailoring & Cooking for females.
I am the straightest poster in this general.I am going to be making a Human female Demonology Warlock.I will permanently wear transmogged Black Mageweave armor.I will ONLY use the Succubus.I will play on an RP server (Would prefer RP/PvP if it's a thing)And that's all there is to it.
>>584871791Was it actually fun though? The extreme 'borrowed power" the new mythic+. Someone almost convinced me to come back for it but I was working my first job then.
>>584871791Cata is a pretty distinct cutoff point, I remember people asking for old world servers starting then.
>>584871768>That's right chuddie. That's why everyone is asking for shit like Mt Hyjal which was already in Cata. It's why lava blast is now in the game. Pure vanilla cannot compete.
>>584871908The lore and class halls were kino but everything else was absolutely nightmarish (AP, random legendaries, titanforging)
>>584871791Retail started the second flying mounts were announced.
>>584871908it'a the last time it was fun
>>584871854imprison her penis
>>584871908Legion had very high highs and very low lows. The borrowed power + the multitude of other systems where extremely fun. BUT the grind and timegating to maintain all the stuff was fucking miserable.
>>584871973This. Everything everyone hates about WoW started in tbc and got worse in wrath and it was completely dead by the time cata came out.No one wants flying shit, fast level, making the old world irrelevant and sitting around waiting for queues to pop.
>take a look at the sim site>rogue finishers don't use up energyYeah, I don't think that shit is reliable. Also shouldn't they start with no fucking buffs instead of assuming everyone is fully decked out including sapper charges etc.?Actually, nevermind. I forgot it's made by parse monkeys for parse monkeys.
Current healer power levelDruid > Priest >> Shaman >> Spriest > Holy Paladin
>>584871854This but my fem warlock and succubus are both futas
>>584869653cute!
>>584871784I would go with the profession that allows you to make gear for yourself, in this case tailoring. The gear is good and from what I've heard spell damage gear is still pretty rare to find, yet you need it more than ever
>>584872116>ignore holy healing for some shockadin meme shit>do 100 changes for the retardin playerbaseIt's SoD all over again.
>>584872078>No one want- ACK!
>>584869763Healing is sometimes a thankless job but it can be very rewarding on a personal accomplishment level.
>>584872082All WoW sim sites became useless the moment people started using AI to maintain them. AI only functions by pulling data from around the internet. So between the dozens of different game versions, hundreds of different patches, and thousands of different spell variables the AI WILL pull some bad data and make massive fuckups.
Anybody else a turbo autismo that can't bring themselves to rolling two different faction races even when they're on PvE servers?And I'm not saying that because I only like races from one faction, I don't, in fact that's why my autism here is a problem because I actually do want to roll characters from both factions but some giga autistic force stops me from doing so even though I can just do it.... this sounds retarded as fuck as I'm typing it.Is it it just me that does this? Why am I like this? I've made a problem out of something that by all means shouldn't be a problem.
>>584872273Go play your retail dress up house decorator so you can farm some more pretty flying ponys tranny.
>>584871746enjoy being ganked by 40 yr old men for hours on end while you try to level bro.
>>584872353>>584872273Destroyed with facts and logic
On the topic of Lava Burst, I wouldn't dislike the ability if it wasn't so shit.Like what is even so special about it? It's just a shitty damage spell that... does a bit more damage if you have flame shock on the target.Like really?Is it even that much better than regular ass lightning bolt?
>>584872273Weird to think cata still had 10m+ subs yet theres next to no nostalgia for it
>>584872082lvl 60 items aren't known and more changes are likelyand yes the sims are dogshitso yes simtards are clinically retarded
>>584872423You live in a bubble
>>584871784Tailor + enchant since you won't need to buy a mount so you can sink greens into disenchanting.
for me its drakedog 1 on repeat
After the last big patch people said Warlock/Hunter pets had their HP decimated.Did that ever get reverted or are they still fucked?
>>584872423people hated cata besides people who sit and wait for queues to pop which is the audience of retail wow.
>>584872423The only thing I liked was the hard 5 mans which they gutted immediately due to crying. Also Vash'jir kinda but I know I'm an outlier for that.
>>584872423WoW was coming off it's best expansion, naturally it had the most amount of people still playing for the newest expansion. Cata was utterly terrible but that's usually how [thing] > [thing] sequel goes.
>>584872273>people call wrath the best expansion of all time>zero growth
>>584872594thisit's not weird at all
>>584872531they fixed it and they now scale with stamina still less than before tho
>>584871854more smug looking satyrs
>>584870007Ogre hunter and core hound pet
>>584872423all I remember about cata was how mean people were to me in heroics, especially ZA and ZG, to the point I stopped trying to queue for anything and just ran old raids and dailiesI never even got the ilvl for raid finder by the time MoP released
I enjoyed Cata. But take that with a grain of salt because I don't remember much of the specifics of the expansion, I'm talking purely from the fact that they changed the world in an interesting way and yes I am aware that some people hated that but they're fucking retarded and like things to remain stagnant rather than ever changing. Southern barrens being overgrown by lush vegetation was based to see.That's like the only thing I remember from Cata though, I'm a casual and I never play raids or anything, I get bored of playing by like level 50ish and then quit playing. Same is probably going to happen with Forever.
Mage is such a brown class. It stinks
>>584870007OGRES
>>584870007SERVE THE OGRES
>>584872657Since ogres are so dumb it would be cool if their signature pet was smarter than them, but if I say a hunter with a pet smarter than them I'm just describing normal hunters.
>>584872423MoP was considered very highly and look how dead MoP classic is.
>>584871854>I am the straightest poster in this general.You literally gen futa porn you fucking freak lol
>>584871784taloring + ????
>>584872940Futa is straight.t. straight and been fapping to futa for 20 years.
>>584872996only when its futa on femaletwo futas are gay
>>584872423>Sell yourself to Activision>Enshittification ensues>People leave in drovesThe 10 million subs came from WoTLK, you can see people in Cata starting to leave. Why would they feel any nostalgia for that expansion?>That's just the natural life cycle of a game, it gets popular and then there's a steady decline in playerbase until it dies outLeague of legends was also made in 2006 and their playerbase is still exponentially getting larger 20 years later. WoW's failure wasn't unavoidable, Activision is just fucking incompetent. People defending them are retarded.
>>584873085>only when its futa on femaletranny coded>futa on malenow this is straight
>Thread Theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z29Rk8814wbased op
>>584872940Futa is straight because it is the feminine form.
I wanted to roll female nelf war, mostly tank but dps a bit too maybe (first time all of that), but now I have my doubts it will suck or I am not good enough or something like that or it will be a slop Also still not sure if PVE or PVP
Today's the day blizzard announces they are IP banning everyone that participated in the tournament.This is the thing that will save wow forever.
>>584873201>wants to suck and get fucked>now this is straight>inb4 nah I just want to fuck a dude with boobs
>>584873169lol is a casual friendly game that you just open and start playing. it makes sense that people who were 14 years old on launch had to give up an incredibly degenerate and life-destroying videogame when they started grinding real life. cata also sucked but that's a correlation not a causality
>>584872923it's considered very highly because it was a highlighted peak of good expansion between mediocre ones, in hindsight, but it doesn't really have anything special going on for it and difficulty filtered most of classic players at this point even in cata, for them mop is almost retail, especially with introduction of mythic raid tier
>>584873263>I wanted to roll female nelf war, mostly tank but dps a bit too maybe (first time all of that)Great choice if you are going PVEAwful choice if you are going PVP
>log on>trannies are seething about trump in general chatobsessed
>>584873361Alli or horde? People really can't help themselves with making general chats as bad as possible.
>>584873361>redditors are all arguing about trump the sun is indeed rising over another day on planet earth
you gotta say doe the sky elves were a marketing master stroke from blizzard. instead of going for a fan favorite new race, like for example high elves, they go for something completely new and polarising that generates massive amounts of heated discussions online surrounding the game.this is much better than just the entire fanbase sucking blizzard cock for adding high elves because the way that would go is "oh wow blizzard this is so awesome everyone likes this good job blizzard" and this would last for like one day and then thats it, the high elves would be taken for granted at that point and discussion stops and less people talk about your game.but yeah with a polarising choice like sky elves the people who dislike it and the people who like it will just endlessly go on and on about it in an endless feedback loop and everyone keeps talking about your game which brings more attention to it and more money.gg blizzard
>>584873361rightoid propably started by praising trump
>>584873759shh we don't talk about that this is about trannies
Human or Troll lock?
>>584874062Troll if PvP, Human if PvE
>>584874062human if you are gay, troll if you are cool
>Troondle tranny tyrant Shenna, kills all fashy and fresh V+1488 servers>Troondle sissies dilated themselves into the grave with blizzard dilators>Blizzard releases WoW Fartever from Aggrend's obese anus>Including $30 tranny freakout lore breaking elf race>No hope for white, straight, aryan, men to go home>||VVALL Announces it||>||VVALLKRAFT is coming||I-is this what it felt to be a (((weimarite))) then see the NASDAP rise??
>>584873201this
>>584873169>fastest growth in the real game vanilla>growth slowing down in tbc>growth completely stops in wotlki dont think your chart reading is checking out anon
>>584874275In English?
>>584869554Imagine you are dogshit, and I know, for us, non grey parsers that is hard, but imagine.Now ponder you are even worse.And you have a crippling porn addiction.Now you get why people play rp.
Talk me out of maining a priest.
>>584874443something something AGP
>>584874275shut it down they know
>>584873201based and patrician tier taste
>>584871854
>>584874275what the fuck is this nigger babble?
>>584874443you better love healingalso you find wanding chill
>>584874501The pedo bots have already started their meltdown
>>584874443If Shadow, no, respectable choice.If Holy/Disc, you are now the town bicycle.
>>584874275saar what do thsi mean why this no english me no understand
>>584874443Druid does what you do better, and they're a hybrid with movement options.
Chat am I cooked if I wanna go gnome priest? Black mageweave is a bit lacking here ngl
>>584874275This post makes me angry.
>>584874275Wall will save us from this dogshit retail-
>>584874443I love to ride bicycles as a tank.
>>584870745PvP realms are only good in theory.In reality, you are severely limited in what you can play and how much of a good time you're going to have depends on what you play.For example, if I want to play a Warrior, I'm going to have a bad time because all other classes will just farm me.Or, if I want to play a mage, I will feel pigeonholed into leveling as Frost. What if I want to level as Fire? Well now I'm just at a clear disadvantage and will get fucked in PvP.There's a PvP spec for every class. On a PvP server you're almost forced to only choose that spec. On a PvE realm I can level with the spec that I actually want to play as.So you see, in an ideal world PvP would be good, but in reality all it does is limit what classes/specs you get to play. All my favorite specs are dogshit in PvP. Like Fire Mage, Demo Lock, Elemental Shaman and Prot Warrior. So there's no benefit to me playing on a PvP server at all.
>>584874443you fondle small green bars to make them big again
>>584874275I know /wpsg/ is dead since forever got announced but it doesn't give you permission to shill another garbage project here.
>>584874275Do not post your illegal shit slav server here, here we play real wow not fake wow.
>>584874598>>584874641>>584874756>>584874859>>584874882Thanks lads, I'll main a mage.
>>584873684controversial doesn't always equal good tho
>>584874641>>584874882Ok that's it, Im going disc/holy... but human or nelfie...
>>584872116and yet shaman and priest healers are the only ones you bring to raid
>>584875108nta but that was classic where hots didnt stack so you couldnt bring more then one druid, also druid didn't have swiftmend like it does now. shamans and druids will be the best raid healers in forever.
>>584875035thanks, it's very convenient!
>>584874804needs a smaller gnomehole coverage
I wish pvp servers didn't attract browns but I guess it will be fun to kill them
Female Night Elves run so cutely.
>>584872259I warned you about it being SoD- lil bro, you didn't listen because you never do.>>584872116>Holy paladin is a shit healer in classic>But you bring it because of blessings>Catches nerfs to the one gimmick it has (which, because it was strong in pvp, is the only thing people remember paladin being playable for)>Gets nothing in return but some shockadin memeshit that gets nerfed because it's "upstaging" twistardationFunny as shit how people forget Aggrend hates anything but ret paladin and prefers to stroke Druid's cock instead when it comes to classes as a package.Prot paladin is also in the fucking gutter.
>leveling up Tailoring just so I could fill the auction house with Black Mageweave leggings and make bank off of goonersThanks for the gold, chums
Which faction has the least amount of libtard LGBTQ faggots on it?
>>584875548https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3abPnEEGE
>>584874860You sound like the target audience for Rested XP ads. PvP realms have always been the most popular ones for a reason. The "inconvenience" is part of what makes them feel alive and engaging and not a dead wasteland. Only tired neutered uncs with zero drive choose PvE realms which is the reason they're always low populated, they are the type of players that don't commit to the game. Trying to justify a sterile and dull experience for the sake of "convenience" is just sad but you do you bwo.
>>584875548funny enough allianceyoud think the goody two shoes self-insert heroes would be the lib faction but its the opposite
>>584875548Alliance because it's full of Aryanchad chuds. Horde is full of immigrants and immigrant lovers.
>>584875548alliance has actual trannieshorde has other kinds of leftoids
>>584875662fomo is the only reason they've ever been popular, but the fomo focus has shifted to class meta. pvp servers are for faggots like me and people shant be playing this go again
>>584875662Yeah whatever nigger. Enjoy getting raped by huntards and warlocks in SV for your dose of "engagement"
>>584875662Shit reasoning. I'm not playing specs I don't want nor like to play just to be able to PvP. What sort of fucking backwards logic is that?>Well then play the spec you want and make do :)Cool yeah I'm sure as a Fire mage without Iceblock I won't get completely fucked by everyone I come across. Sounds so fun!
>>584875548Horde. Trannys want to play pretty races like nigh elf and humans not be orcs and trolls. The pvp server only has a lot of trannys on it for the beta because trannys mald and seethed about mom killer bald so they went horde specifically so they could kill low level people in olympus and post themselves doing it on reddit for updoots.Asmons going pve and so will his guild so trannys cant kill them anymore. Trannys on pve will pick whatever asmon doesn't pick and trannys on pvp will go alliance.
>>584875548alliance because all the real libtards to horde because they see the horde races as irl diversity and minorities
GoonGOD here, when are Draenei females getting added?
>look at beta player numbers>pve has majority horde>pvp has majority alliance>asmongold is on alliance pvp>asmongold is going alliance pve for liveGenuinely insane that 1 streamer has this much pull on the overall faction balance and how him going pve will actually fix the numbers.
>PvE>Horde>Tauren Female>DruidYep it's gaming time.
>>584875548alliance = white colonialistshorde = brown third worlders
>>584875934>my retarded myopic personal experience is representative of the whole it isn't. the less impulsive and emotionally unhinged obsessed with politics faction has been horde for many years now. alliance is for unironic migatards, grownups, cozy boomers, and trannies all roll horde.
>>584875548Both. Wow is a tranny game.
You now remember ogre launch models.
Will troll in full spirit gear be a meme?
>>584876036Blizzard being full of diversity hire libtards is squandering a great chance to use Asmongold to push the game. They have a guy who has a faction of almost 100 thousand members. They should be using those numbers to their advantage, instead they try to pretend he doesn't exist because they don't agree with his politics.Retarded.
Ayo wtf it's halloween in wow now cool!
>>584875548Easily horde
>>584875906>Erm I can't do unoptimal things because...>I HECKING CAN'T!11Your next line will be complaining about dungeon grinding not being optimal, tsk, dumb meta troon!
>alliance>trannies and leftist>also alliance>twitch chat rightoid automatons>horde>?????????
>>584875662WPVP during leveling a big meme.It is never fair and always faggots ganking.The real game starts at lvl 60 anyway.
>>584875662based>>584875906lmao cringe loser mentality loser mage kek imagine choosing to be a loser fire mage instead of a based fire mage ahahaha stay on pve server loser
>>584876143He looks like a dude named Derrick, who is sort of a douchebag but not really and is called Big D.
>>584876171we're all very impressed by your parasocial relationship with the roach king. you must really feel like a main character paying 60 dollars to play a beta for in-game streamer meetups
>>584876263>I hate fun>I NEED to hit 60 asap to burn out and cry about being bored
>>584876318>getting ganked by faggots who aren't looking for a fair fight is fun
>>584876171I'm guessing shareholders themselves don't like him.
please tell me im not making a mistake going shaman all i see is doom and gloom from everyone
Do you think the BoP leatherworking gear is strong enough to warrant picking it up over just having skinning/herbalism on my main to send to a leatherworker alt?
>>584876356It is actually!I love being ganked and raped, I love being level 10 while the entire server is level 40 to 50.I love being late to things.I love parsing grey.I love playing with zero addons or UI changes.I love being the main character.And if you don't like it or don't play like ME, you are an evil person and need to be BANNED.WoW Forever is for me, not you. And you aren't allowed to exclude me ever again.
I'm going to play this Massive Multiplayer Online game like it's a single player game because I don't like interacting with you fags to be honest.Gonna make numerous chars and level all of the professions myself so I have to rely on other people as little as possible. Only for dungeon/raids I guess.
>>584876462its a good overall classunless you want to top the meters as elemental shaman
rp-pvp server status?
>lack of resources and financial opportunities has reduced the best pvpers in the game to just doing gambling streams the absolute state of "gamers"
>>584876479This, this, THIS!!!!WOW FOREVER IS ABOUT ME. Nobody will ever exclude me again, nobody will get ahead of me, nobody will beat me, everyone will be forced on an even playing field with ME and finally, after 34 years of being a loser and being left behind, I'LL BE THE ONE ON TOP.
>>584876557i want to PVP
>nyooooo i die in world pvp because i suck but its not my fault ... er.. my spec sucks!.. err... its not a fair fight!.. um...its just not fair okay
>>584876465no one knows, we need to see the specialization gearblacksmithing might be bis for many if for example swordsmiths can craft epic swords akin to TBC
>>584876557But then what else is the point of elemental if not pumping out big DEEPS? That's basically all it is for. If it can't do that it's a failure of a spec.
I have never lost a fair fight.
>>584876526WoW Forever is made for you.
I have never fought a fair fight.
>>584876642I accept your concession, brainletard.
>>584876568just enable pvp on rp-pve, what's the difference
>>584876609both resto and enhance are fine, middle of the pact>>584876656ofc, but currently its unplayable and thats all we knowit could be broken OP around chrismas after 6 weeks of balance patches
>>584876741>what's the difference between the mindset in the open world between compulsory pvp flagging and having it opt-in
>>584876642Even the most autistic classicfag knows that people don't go to pvp servers because of wpvp but simply because they're the most populated.
>>584872273The only time the game had explosive player growth was vanilla wow, everything after was stagnation and decline built straight off the back of vanilla wowThe retarded shill nigger falseflagging retail tranny can't read a graph lol the same exact mental retardation on display in 2019 literally seven years later
>>584876741he cant win a fair fight
>one megaserver>turn on PvP flag>get layered only with people who have PvP flag on>turn on PvE flag>get layered only with people who have PvE flag onIt's really just as easy as that.
>>584876953>about to get ganked>pvp off
>>584876953You completely fail to understand the reason for the pvp server and why people like it better than pve.
>>584876953Turtle knew this
The layering issues look abysmal.I'm gonna be honest, I can easily see myself playing for less than a month then dropping the game because of the layering alone. I doubt it's going to be fixed and it's by far and away the worst thing about the beta.
>>584877004Can only switch in capital city
>>584876842PvP players are a cut above pve players who in turn are six cuts above rp troons.90% of 4chan pedo freaks play on RP which should tell you everything you ever needed to know ;)
>>584877009Everyone understand completely why people roll on PVP servers.They want to fight people who have less of a chance to win than they do.People who want to beat other people because they are better than them roll on PVE servers.
>>584877080it really does, lmao. freaking chuds LMFAO.
>>584876953>we are back at suggesting retail changes (warmode)JeJigy+KEKYPOW!
>>584877064No pvp player would want this because everyone who were flagged would have full 5man arena teams roaming around and we all know thats now that people who roll on PVP server want to face, they want lonely, half hp noobs who are fighting two mobs.
>kekypowYou just know the post about to be a banger
>>584877087Curious how shitters ALWAYS put themselves as the victim when talking about pvp. You talk of skill but at the same time are always the one losing world pvp encounters.
>>584877386This, the solution to a system that is 99% bullying is to be the bully xerselves.
>>584875548alliancehorde is the furfag, tranny faction
>>584877386most of us want to play the game rather than sit in stealth waiting for half an hour to make sure there is absolutely no chance for anyone to jump on usand ofc have vanish and sprint ready
How does it feel knowing there won't be any new races for at least 2 years?
I genuinely feel like I'm losing my mind.How is Warlock not the perfect class? Has anyone ever taken a minute to contemplate just how ridiculous this class is? It has everything.Damage, survivability, sustain, utility, solo-friendly, you get a free fucking mount, you can easily pick up Enchanting/Tailoring for bags/armor/wands/staves, you get health pots, you get free revives, you get invites just so lazy people can get a summon to a dungeon, it's just the full fucking package.All 3 of your specs are amazing, there's no outlier which sucks.You have a lot of fun class specific quests.This fucking class is unbelievable, it's the full package. AND YET IT'S STILL THE LEAST PLAYED CLASSWHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?MAKE IT MAKE FUCKING SENSE.
>>584877524Killing the other faction IS playing the game.
>>584877524You have PvE and RP to be your dogshit self lil gupta.Just accept yourself as a scrub and type b person and be happy with the fact you where born cattle.
Sorry I'm retarded. What character level is required for the different profession levels?
>>584877536that's fine. I don't want new races every six months. I want new zones, dungeons, and BGs over new races.
>>584877593Casters are just incredibly boring to play in classic
>>584877593• Soul Shard Management: Warlocks must farm and inventory-manage Soul Shards to cast essential spells like Summoning, Healthstones, and Soulstones, which takes extra prep time and eats up bag space.• Overshadowed by Mages: Mages are often seen as the premier classic caster "hero class"—they have superior teleportation and portal utility, free food/water, massive AoE farming potential, and higher initial burst damage.• Cumbersome Pet Management: Pet pathing, summoning times (historically taking up to 6 seconds or more), and managing pet aggression/threat can feel archaic and punishing.• Debuff Slot Limitations: In classic raids, the 16-debuff (or older 8-debuff) limit heavily restricts how many Over Time (DoT) spells Affliction Warlocks can actually use, forcing them into repetitive Shadow Bolt spam builds instead of a dynamic curse/affliction playstyle.• Life Tap and Health Mechanics: Balancing Life Tap to convert health into mana requires constant awareness and external healing, making them less straightforward in frantic or new-player environments.• Complex Keybinds: Warlocks tend to rely on a significantly higher number of active spells, curses, pets, and utilities compared to many other classes.Note: While Warlocks bring crucial endgame utility—such as mandatory summoning services and Healthstones/Soulstones—this utility often turns them into "support tools" or summoning-bot alt characters for groups rather than the main-character fantasy many players prefer.
Holey moley
>>584877536There shouldn't be new races
>>584877536goodclearly blizzard aren't interested in adding races that I want
>>584877731is this ai?this looks like ai
>>584877536ogres in 6 months basically confirmed
>>584877610but you dont actually kill them, they are back in a minute or two>>584877661everyone has played on a pvp server, most of us have pent over a decade owning shitters but we got bored of that because there is no real challenge therethe fact is PVP server is for new and bad players because its the only place where even they can win sometimes in pvp when they pick an opponent that is not preparedyou are basically just playing public games without match making and talking shit to competitive pros, its sad and pathetic
Why do PvP-server golems keep having a melty when I tell them I'm not playing on a PvP server?You don't see PvE-server chads doing this, it's always the other way around.
>>584877593>>584875662>>584873263>>584871746>>584871048gachaposting trannies is the opposite of the vanilla spirit and what forever is trying to continue. Fuck off
>>584877776Well there are, and there will be more.There will likely be new classes, new zones, new battlegrounds, and more. Classes will be balanced, classes will be reworked.Sorry (not sorry) but this game isn't for #nochanges uncs, but you'll always have era : ^)
I play on PvE servers, twink out chars and have them live in their level appropriate battlegrounds and it's the best.World PvP is an absolute joke. Once you play in twink vs twink BG's nothing else compares.
>>584877945>You don't see PvE-server chads doing this, it's always the other way around.How do you know a carebear is going to play on a pve server? They'll tell you (in a completely obnoxious condescending way)
>there has been a mentally ill player called "Redridgeguy" who hides in inaccessible areas, and uses his pet to grief low level players from safety>he's been doing it daily for literally 2 years now>became infamous and hated, but is still doing it, no punishments, whiners were told it's acceptable gameplay>some redditor just did this at the streamer tournament>IMMEDIATELY temp banned, followed by a permanent removal from the beta (money stolen) for "exploitative gameplay"LOLStreamers really do run this game. https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x91ef7/banned_for_pvping_on_a_pvp_server/
PvE bros... Why is a "mini game" the premier event of WoWF? PvP is just a mini game, right????? Why didn't they do speed runs of Scarlet Monastery?
>>584878006>tournament admins are all streamer mods >they're all doing it for free >they're giggly and pretending they're in the streamer clique, ham it up before duels, abuse their power>immediately mute any no-name person who tries to say anything before, during, or after duels forever open status?
>>584876568They went out of their way to say they won't be doing rp-pvp servers because they don't want to moderate them.
>it's okay if paladin is broken OP in pvp 1v1 and best tank and dps in pve>BUT HOW DARE WARLOCKS BE GOOD AT ANYTHING
>>584871791TBC is retail, sorry to burst your bubble.
>>584878437point of order, prot warrior is the best tank
>>584878303When PVE boils down to >stand and hitThere isn't much of a reason to play this version of the game if you aren't doing PVP
>>584878538not after they buffed righteous fury another time
>>584878175This retard is talking about a guy who is a hunter who shoots people from the roof of buildings and calls it "hiding in inaccessible areas"https://youtu.be/uDtyeVt0i7E
>>584878520there was a time when i would disagree with this because heckin golden age of wow but after playing anniversary i will say tbc is definitely retail. completely different from vanilla in every way, easy beyond belief
>>584878437>1 and best tank and dps in pveLOL
>>584878303>premier eventIt's streamer slop.They'll drop PvP shit the moment Hardcore mode becomes available to farm and hardcore is PvE focused.
>>584878361its very likely that a no-name is going to win it today so whats your cope going to be?
>>584878734no one is stopping you from this
>>584878813whether a no name wins or not has nothing to do with faggot streamer jannies trying to keep down aspiring eboys and giving their parasocial advantages, so i guess my cope would be "cool."
>>584878809So where is the PvE event? Why did they make an event for a "mini game"? Why aren't they doing a who can AOE grind this area fastest or who can gather all these nodes the fastest?
>>584878643>from the roofYou disingenuous nigger, the very video you posted shows him using eyes of the beast from crazy out of bounds locations, just the same as the Redditor.
>>584878437Paladin is going to suck ass in wpvp and bgs.
>>584878734
>>584878643Is this the same guy who did it on nost/lh as well? Because that dude was always in places you could easily access. He was just incredibly autistic. >>584878175This dude on the other hand seems like the usual kind of>WHY DID I GET BANNED FOR THIS WHEN THIS OTHER GUY DIDN'T IT'S FAVORITISMA childish tantrum
>>584878910your whole points is that admins are making the big streamers win yet all the objective facts show us that its not the case
>>584878930>casting eagle eye is being out of the map
>>584879025Delete this.
>>584878942>nerfs dungeon xp againhope you like seeing whitemane only once if at all as alliance
>>584878920there is world first to 60 race coming upand ofc world first for every raidmaybe you should just pay more focus hmm?
>>584877593Downsides of warlock>5+ minutes of resetting after a death>bgs are extremely unfun>123 summons>lose bags to soul shards>no mobility or defensives>fear has more counters to it than any other cc
>>584879050That area is clearly outside of the intended boundaries for players. Don't even pretend for a moment it isn't, anon, don't be that retarded please
>>584878175He is based. To call him a "streamer" is also obtuse. He literally streams what he does (which also makes it easier to stop what he's doing). He has no on-screen persona or bullshit like most of the "streamers". I'll take this guy over fags like Payo any day.
>>584879031no, my whole point was the jannies running the tournament are pathetic faggots. you've got 2 viewer nobodies dreaming of a big life in the spotlight trying to do anything memorable in their 5 minutes of fame, and you have jannies muting them for saying or doing anything but replying with a "yes" or "no." meanwhile, the streamers will delay the duel for five duel flag durations because they're talking the whole time making jokes and "forgetting" a buff. i can see why you misunderstood
>>584878920I've just answered that, you fucking troglodyte. The most watched and entertaining thing in classic WoW is hardcore mode which is PvE focused.Hardcore mode is not enabled and the leveling cap is stuck at 30. Everyone has finished doing all they can in the beta with the current limitations so PvP is the only thing remaining (and it sucked btw, the tournament was so dogshit that I'm not even gonna bother watching the finals today, it's just hunters, mages and paladins raping everything else).
>>584876953This is a good idea. They should also give bonus xp, and item drops to encourage people to pvp!
>>584879129So nothing to hype the game up then. Watch as those "world firsts" are forgotten after 24 hours.>Oh that dude got world first on his mage, woah! A whole 15 minuites faster than the other guy!
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>>584879229did you forget the hardcore duel tournament?
>>584876256Alliance>racist chudsHorde>trannies, faggots, furries, and shitskinsChoose wisely.
>>584879260The esports guys losing to a Gnome is still one of the most legendary moments in Classic history
>>584879195none of that happened, I watched most of the duels you are delulu seek help>>584879260Everyone remember Jokerd being the first lvl60 in 2019, dude literally made his whole career out from itand world first mc, echo lost to apes, private server chads detroyed retail world first champsyou are clearly a tourist
>>584879334everybody did because nobody cared. but the retard you're replying to is also wrong since people were watching streamers to watch streamers doing something novel, not because what they did happened to be pve.
>>584879229>his only rebuttal is that PvP is for streamers>says hardcore is the main attraction PvE has to offer, a mode that only became popular because of streamerslel, I thought PvP was the mini game that wasn't in the game originally? Hardcore came out 20 years after the original game was made.
The reddit tranny streamer mods on the classic wow subreddit nuked the top post on the sub showing the video of the blatant cheating going on in the streamer tournamentNO BAD PUBLICITY IN THE DOJOAnd now they're pretending they aren't corrupt by letting it be posted again, missing the thousands of comments it had lolNo wonder they made the WoW Forever logo blue, they knew how many black eyes they were going to take with this cash grab
>>584879334Didn't watch it, I'm not particularly interested in frost mages killing everybody else in the most boring way possible.
>>584879449obsessed
>>5848781752 years? I swear there was a known redridge ganker from like Denmark or something that has been doing this shit since 2019. He uploaded youtube videos talking about his NEET life. For the life of me I can't remember his name, SOMEONE here must know
>>584879296>530-830am CSTNeetGODs I kneel...
>>584879449to be fair tips basically put out a fwiw days ago and said the tournament is rigged and unfair and a total disaster but that's okay because it's a gimmicky tournament and you didn't have to be invited at all so you should just say thank you sir
>>584879449Who cheated?
>>584879396>dude literally made his whole career outThe 350k twitch channel? The 42k youtube channel? The 4k instagram followers? Wow this guy sure is famous.
when will sodapoppin switch to a real class?
>>584879473YWNBAW
>>584879449What is the cheat?
>>584879581i don't know he's invested a lot of playtime in gay-baiting, hard to start over when you're good at something
>>584878175kek good thing I will never roll PvP this is retarded
Holy shit these threads were so comfy only a few hours ago now its tranny this sodapoppin that What happened
>>584879449>cheatingits not the fearing out of bounds bullshit again is it?
>>584879657obsessed mentally ill posters who can't stop thinking about trannies want to talk about gender politics here instead of going to /pol/
>>584879492he is 4chan incarnate. funny as fuck that people here are crying about him.
>>584878175He's right. It's pvp on a pvp server. He should not be banned. The tournament organizers that mass reported should be banned and the employee at blizzard fired.
>>584879657asmonroach went live after his session of watching his whore chink fuck black men for 2 hours
>>584879707nothis was about breaking multiple rules from positioning to, item usage and consumable usage before the duel started and the admins not enforcing the rules and even siding with the player who broke them
>>584879657Unironically, Am*ricans woke up.
>>584879657Mutts woke up.
>>584879760obsessed
>>584879707no it's the streamer cabal, all the admins are streamer mods, tips is bffs with all of the streamers, streamers held exploits, streamers got favorable judgments because streamers, etc. jerome is a king who did nothing wrong.
Yep, it's gaming time.
>People really expected a 100k tournament field with streamers and endorsed by Blizzard to be a fair competitionHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAAHH
what time is the next part of the pvp tournament today?
Has the stress test started yet? Is the game unplayable?
>>584880050Stress test was postponed to the 21st
>>584880037noon est everyone will be streaming and getting summoned, supposed to start at 1pm est.
Bros...Starting as Lock, should I go Skinning/Tailoring to start (with the idea that skinning can not only make me some extra cash but it can also actually help with leveling Tailoring too) and then eventually switch out Skinning for Enchanting? Because I was originally just gonna hard start out with Enchanting/Tailoring but I think that may be underwhelming, I think it'd probably be better to just send all my greens to an alt or w/e to hold onto and pass em back later to level Enchanting instead of doing it early on.
>>584880109lock cuck kek
>>584875541Don't you need like level 38 or something to equip it?
>>584880109kek cuck lock
>>584878175wow fecesever has no future, you can see by all the drones siding with blizzard on thisblizzard will shit on whoever plays this game for the 3 months it'll be alive and the dick suckers on the community will clap and agree like the little faggots they are
>>584880109can't go wrong with skinning early on
>>584880109noif you're playing day 1 at launch you go enchant/tailor because you shouldn't rely on others for wandup to 20-25 skill is basically free
>>584880050Stress test is kill
>>584875662What is the appeal of Classic WoW, if not its immersive, unforgiving world? And that world necessarily includes the possibility of PvP encounters. Choosing to opt out of that experience is essentially choosing not to engage with the game in its fullest, most challenging form. That's perfectly fine, but let's not pretend the PvE-only experience is somehow superior to the moments that make PvP so compelling: winning an incredibly close 1v1, helping a flagged player from the opposing faction simply because you can and turning an otherwise mundane encounter into a memorable interaction, or killing someone because they have the tag on a mob with a 15-minute respawn and you need it more than them. These are spontaneous, unscripted experiences that emerge from the world itself, and they're a huge part of what makes Classic feel alive. PvE-only players will never experience that dimension of the game, and I think their experience is objectively less dynamic, less engaging, and less mentally stimulating as a result. Full stop.
>>584880283>because you shouldn't rely on others for wandThat shit is going to be on the AH for vendor price on launch.
> night elf male> druid> PVEyep its comfy gaming time.
>>584880109Yea that's a good idea. Vendoring light leathers will be decent cash in the first few days of the game when no one has any, and you wont be getting any valuable enchanting recipes at such low level.
>>584880340>PvE-only players will never experience that dimension of the gamePvP chuds will never experience this thoughbeit!
>>584875249healing power does not matter you need 2 shamans for the 2 air totems and you want 2 priests for fear ward on tanks and power infusion
Should I go PvP or PvE?
>>584880340yea literally nobody cares if you play on pve but they have to cope about it in every thread
>>584880358>for vendor price on launch.1c wands on launch!
Free Jerome
>>584880465I hope this won't be a thing and everyone just tries to get it for themselves. Seems like it'd be faster than waiting in the queue.
>>584880560PvP if you want an immersive world with unexpected interactions PvE if you get really bigg maddd because a big meanie killed you and wasted 5 minutes of your game time.
>>584880560if you've never played before PVPit's a bit like asking if you want you should go down friendship street or rape alley.
>>584880340Classic is not unforgiving at all. No corpse runs, no xp loss, no actual punishment for dying except your time. If edgemaxxing is the point why are you here and not playing Darkfall?
>>584880358yes after launchif you're going to play from minute one there's not going to be anything on ahyou then go ench yourself to get wands
>>584880465
>>584880642Lines are for absolute cucks. Just invite 4 other people and spam your macro to tag then leave.
>>584880340> que for bg> completely invalidates your entire argumenti can still pvp without dealing with getting ganked while leveling actually.
Why is the animefag trying to so hard to convince you to roll PvP?
>>584880702this is when you know you're gaming with gamersevery man for himself not this fucking fag shit >>584880465
>>584880465Soulless>>584880702Soul
>>584880340>selling pvp as glamorousVast majority of world encounters are you just getting ganked where you had a clear disadvantage. You sometimes get a good 1v1 but its very rare.
>>584880465this looks like a game>>584880702this looks like a mod where people took npcs of said game and made them playable for lulz
>>584877593warlock is the highest skill class in the game, people would rather just play rogues which can reset infinitely or a mage with blink and iceblock/poly
>>584880702I was there spamming TAB and Earth shock...too lazy to spend 30s making macro for it so instead I'll wait for 10minutes
No greater proof that alliance is the white man's choice than comparing this >>584880465 to this >>584880702
>>584880560PVE, you will have a miserable experience in pvp and the be gaslit by faggots here
>>584880465my autoattack bound to mousewheel macro will expose the lie of this false society>>584880702in a shamanocracy, earth shock decides who gets the tag, this is the correct way of things>>584880695>>584880727you're not getting it. the point is that spontaneous pvp-related interactions in the world aren't pre-planned and therefore they demand actual thought from you as a player, you have to react to them as they happen and that's why they're interesting
>The world PvPcuck delusion : "Dude, picture this, you and this other guy are having some epic duel to the death over a mining node and then more of both your factions join in and then a big all out war happens and it's super epic dude holy shit">Reality : >You see a member of the other faction getting chased on 1/4 health running from 2 monsters>Shoot him to kill him>Carry onWoah.... so this... is peak WoW... I'm so glad I rolled on a PvP server...
>>584880727Queueing for a kosher session of pvp mini game in a little arena does not make for an immersive world thoughbeit
>>584880465>walk to front of the line>use my auto clicker to get the tag>strut off to my next quest while a dozen virgin retards who won't even make it to 60 send angry whispers
>>584880913this but unironically
>bgs>stand in city lobby simgo back to retail
I WILL roll pvp and form my OWN opinion, because at least on paper it is clearly the more interesting way to play.
>>584869984That whack a mole is why I dislike raid healing, because most of your time is spent casting a heal and then cancelling it because 2 others beat you to it and you don't want to overheal/waste mana. Rinse and repeat many, many times over the course of a raid.
>>584881036Maybe don't join dogshit raids with double the amount of healers necessary.
>>584880913>do this and violate the razor thin peace of the area>he will now come back and do the same to you>force a series of 1v1s back and forth its kino
>>584880696"if you're going to play from minute one there's not going to be anything on ah">No wands on the AH>In World of Botcraft???? New?
being completely honest here, how long until the game is completely dead? I think once we hit 60 and there's only raidloggin and making alts to do a lot of people will quit because they've done it enough for the last 20 yearsthey should raise the exp requirements 2x so getting to 60 would take considerably longer and maybe the game would die in 6 months or so, but at this rate, I give it 3 months max until it's just a ghost town
>>584880916> Getting ganked by an unemployed loser for 40 mins+ is IMMERSIVEyeh ok faggot, that argument might work on those who havent played wow before, but anybody who values their time is going pve this time.
>>584881130I'm going to play for as long as it takes my friends to all quit (1 week)
>>584880696actually this isn't true on hardcore the auction house had wands for vendor price ~90 minutes after launch, and this time you can take blacksmithing and mining in the starting area and instantly make enough greens to disenchant to make a wand
>>584881138>pve server will be full of shitters>pvp server wont have any shittersWhats the downside here?
>>584881018That's what basically every single person advocating for PvE and saying that world pvp isn't what it's cracked up to be already did, which is why we know that world pvp is a complete fucking meme. The vast majority of my world pvp moments were completely unmemorable. Meanwhile, I have countless fond memories of BG related PvP.Essentially PvE realms let me level as any class/spec that I want and get the most out of the PvE side of the game instead of having to specifically pick a PvP spec and then I can twink out some chars and live in BG's to get my fill of the best sort of PvP the game can offer which is PvP vs other twinks.World PvP is dogshit, it's just cheese based. Waiting as a rogue for the other guy to pull and get low before effortlessly killing him when he has no chance.
If I was going to cope and pray for good fights in WoW I'd go do it in RoR instead. At least there you get zvz shitfests to kill the time.
umm warriorbros? are we done for?
>ITT: PVE shitters desperately try to justify not playing on the PVP realm
>>584881138Everyone cries about this but I've literally never had such a thing happen in 22 years of this game. No one cares enough to sit there and gank you over and over unless they have some personal grudge against you. If that happens just go do a different quest or switch to a different layer.
>>584881397don't worry, once you realise the pvp super realm will have a 70% to 30% alliance horde ratio then you too will come and enjoy your time with the game on a pve realm
>>584881407Im a pvp server only andy and thats just cope. For example last time I played classic the same dwarf rogue sat in hillsbrad near the farms for most hours of the day one shotting lowbies. He was famous
>>584881130I mean, once GTA is out most will temporarily leave anyway.
>>584881203you should have a wand by 40 minutes if you're not a shit player1:30 without wand especially as warlock/mage is ass
>>584881492Olympus is moving to pve. Alliance pvp population is getting halved.
pve shitter cope
>>584881230> your le shitteryeh i dont care what words you use, it is revealing however that the only argument you have for rolling on a pvp server is gaslighting and shaming tactics.im sorry your ego is so tied to videogame
Mage derangement syndrome- constant complaining about mages- mental anguish caused by the existence of mage- claims that mages are conspiring against them - claims that mages are oppressing them- blames all personal shortcomings on mages
>>584881583no im just happy that my pugs wont be full of shitters
>>584881369Remember the endless posts about mage being broken? It's always the pink menace that cries out in pain as they strike you.
>>584881407is this nigga for real
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1x8gobh/wow_forever_has_lightning_thunderstorms_now/Holy shit Forever has insane weather systems now.Also retoilets are starting to seethe and become depressed lol
>can't decide between Orc or Troll hunterWho is the top horde hunter now? Era wise it was Troll hunter due to Bow proff and Berserking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1dPTAQ5_U
>>584881725as somebody who occasionally plays retail, its wild that so many people are in denial that forever is the main game now.
>>584881741PVE damage is so close on each of the races that it literally does not fucking matter. Racial choices should always be for PVP.
>>584881725That looks amazing, are blizzards back as well?I
>>584881587Everyone was clowning on mages out the gate, even more humiliation due to AoE and dungeon changes.Suddenly everything thinks its the hero class again because of Damage Per Screenshot of Lance.Now Mages got buttfucked in PvP tournament and people are laughing at them again.
>>584881725I will still enjoy both, but Forever is more creatively free after the fallout in 2020 and all the old heads had to go, good luck to the devs, and let Arthas cook for awhile.
>>584881725I can already tell every .5 patch in retail moving forward will just be playing catchup with all the system/graphics updates in Forever.
Can you guys recommend an add-on that improves the /loot window. I want to see who has rolled what while the roll is still going...
>>584881971so, when will retail add meaningful leveling?
the question isorc or troll warlock?
>>584881725retailtards on ABSOLUTE suicide watch
bros I can't decide my paladin raceundead are cool and funky and I never really played through their leveling route dwarfs are the best race all things considered full stop but maybe a little boringhuman females are sexy and I never played through the human areas either
>>584881725Reminder that these people outnumber the classic andies and will shape the game to their will.
>>584882059>retail combatbut they are both tab targeting games?
>>584881130I honestly don't see this game lasting more than a few months. Blizzard already showed signs of fucking this up right at the start and it's only going to get worse.
>>584881203I am going to FLOOD the Valley of Trials with free Lesser Magic Wands to support the dumbest noshoes for choosing the mana classes.
>>584882018I like troll. The health regen stuff feels super flavorful and imo they look cooler
How long will the streamer privileges go on for?
>>584882018now that's a hard questionon one handdo you want nothing?and on the other handdo you want free in combat health regen and a free bandage spell for half your health hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>584882059why the fuck would you want retail combat in forever, the button bloat is insane in retoilet.
>>584882018orc is superior in every way, dots dont scale from haste at all
Have they adjusted the weapon speed imbalance in forever or are slow weapons still king?
>>584882005Never and it really doesn't need to. Retail doesn't have to directly copy what Forever is doing to be successful. Retail needs to play to it's own strengths. It needs to go back to be the insane funserver status it was during Legion and BFA. Make everything overpowered as fuck.
All the arguments from the pvp server defender remind me of dark souls and invaders. It's really the same shit - just really bad players want to increase their chance of winning by engaging in 'pvp' where the other side doesn't want it or can't defend properly. And just like this retard here, those morons also have this 'us higher class invader chads' mentality.
>>584882018Orc, I just like them more, I'm not sure how the racials will be though.
>>584882129until streamers aren't a thing.
>pve server
>>584882129until their audiences get bored of the game like a month after launch
>>584869867I don't understand the drama. Jerome literally stayed out of bounds until HE fled, not Savix. Why would he expect the organizers to remake the duel. That's fucking retarded
>>584882254>just in time for them to release the hardcore versionGames and release cadences really are built around streamers.
>>584882194The fact that you have to be on guard for unexpected player attacks gives infinite replayability. If youre just fighting mobs that behave exactly the same way every time, there's little reason to play through something more than once. How is that difficult to understand.
>>584882018female troll with succulent suckable toes
>>584882214You can tell they're so butthurt about getting called out for their decision, its sad
>>584882167Slower is still better in most situations. Prot warrior can use fast daggers to generate rage faster because none of their rage dumps use weapon damage. Non-mutilate rogue can use a fast offhand for more poison procs.
>>584882148>do you want nothing?>1% crit>curse dispel>10% sp cooldownhow is that nothing?
>>584870943Shaman is never the most popular class, and in Vanilla+ forever the only viable end game shaman spec is resto so not everyone wants to heal.All of the following are guaranteed to be more popular than shaman:WarriorPaladinHunterMageAnd maybe rogue, druid, priest, and warlock too lmao.
I still can't decide between human or UD paladin...I feel like I want to play horde but can't get around how bad plate looks on UD
>>584882331how do people even enjoy hardcore for extended periods of time? Isn't it just constant pure stress since death looms around every lagspike and fucked up pull
>>584880560pvp is the only real optionthe pve andies will try to tell you how they totally are not little bitches but everyone knows
PvE or RP?
>>584882538I'm hoping for RP Hardcore for the narrative of the survivors.
>>584882564NA? RPEU? whatever you prefer
>>584882538It's not a hard game. If you aren't a shitter you won't be stressed about death constantly.
>>584882194Least in dark souls you wouldnt be at a total disadvantage with incorrect spec or gear. The pvp argument completely falls flat when its a 50g respec and youre a healer or a tank that has to deal with this bullshit.
>>584882564PvE NA so you can play with <FUN HAVERS> :)
>>584882528you should only play horde after you have finished all alliance content. Horde is like the bonus stuff or new game plus where it's slightly different but way lover quality in every measurable way
>>584882564Love streamers? PVEHate streamers? RP
>>584882337>what if instead of a skull level gnome mage it was skull level elf hunter killing me in hillsbrad instead>so many possiblities!
>>584882491Shaman is extremely popular if you play Horde since 4 races have access to the class. It will be rare in Alliance though.
>>584881130they havent broken out the big deal 3 or 6 months sub packs for it so i think they are expecting it to be succesful for a longer period than that
Hardcore is the stupidest fucking thing to do if you're not a streamer raking in money for doing so.>Disconnect while fighting an enemy>Log in>DeadNice. Epic. Wonderful. Or>In a dungeon>Fucking retarded huntards pet pulls the entire dungeon>Die or scum out with a petriIt's such a garbage mode to play but fun to watch.
>>584882538It's make it fun. Like you really have to worry every time your health gets low and be smart about how you engage in fights. But yea it is stressful and it does suck if you die to disconnect or something.
>>584882538Might be more chill than leveling on a PvP server and you apparently can transfer your characters when they die.
>>584881492forced 50 faction split worked just fine on anniversary tho
>>584882538Bro you just don't get it. Watching my favorite streamer die for the 50th time is so much fun!
Has anyone been to Dalaran (the city, not the dungeon) in Forever? What am I missing if I go Horde? Do they get something similar? I'm not in the beta
>>584882724this pic never fails to make me smile
>>584882538hc is more social. you find people you trust and play with them. shitters (95% of hardcore players) sometimes would even ask you to join discord for their deadmines run. It's funny watching them keyboard turn and backpedal and stress out
how does ret pala fare in wpvp?
>>584882129For as long as Fatrend is part of the dev team. So probably forever until EoS.
>>584880560anons salivating at the thought of corpse camping this noob that lacks critical context
>>584882949>yfw having fun with fun havers
>>584882956absolute unit, but you need consumes to catch people
>>584882932nopehorde is getting something else in a future update
>>584883036yahooooooooooo!
>>584882956o no im dying>bubbleo no im still somehow dying>loho no theyre walking away from me>hoj
>>584882752The shaman power fantasy is great.The Vanilla(+) reality is you drop totems and cast heals.
>>584882739NTA, I want to believe this, please convince me that this narrative is true.
orc or undead warr?
>>584881725how do I cope as horde when alliance gets sight like these in their main hub?
>>584883220After they nerfed touch of grave, orc
>>584883272With better Org music + wolf howling ambiance.
>>584883272nightly visit from female nelfies and humies should help with coping
>>584882739I may just go human paladin and RP on the pvp realm as a scarlet crusader or something. >>584883186The horde experience is polarizing, on one hand you're safer in pvp realms because you can potentially level 1-40 without ever leaving safe zones and they have zeppelins and better access to most dungeons. On the other hand holy shit barrens, you either love it or hate it and I'm in the hate it camp, Org where everyone hangs out is also a shithole compared to alliance cities.
Are they gonna abolish sharding and add classic layers?
>>584883220every class is worse as undead after grave nerf unless you plan on 1v1 duels
>>584883341org is very thematic but cmon, the choir hitting as you enter the gates of stormwind is on a whole other level
>>584881725>duskwood>raining>thunder>torch in hand>rp walk along the cobblestone pathKINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGNZdClu1Us
>>584883398hmmm I do love the barrens through 1k needles into tanaris route
>>584883186alliance favouritism has been a thing since 2004, in essence, on average, alliance towns, quests, quest rewards, quest hubs, zones and just simply everything they come into contact is better than the horde counterpartsome people like the underdog thing, main reason the horde hasnt completely died off
>>584883538lmao completely mindbroken
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