Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9671 - C++ Edition==NEWS==>Discord server for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>584895070
post headcanons
>>584934894Sorry kiddo, this is a Python general
*headpats your OC*
I understand Amy better than the current Japanese writers.
>>584934894When there are 7 chaosEmeralds acknowledge that you have 7 chaosEmeralds. Also identify them to the end user as Chaos Emeralds.
hhhngggg bump jiggle physics
>>584935078Canon Sonic and Amy (not Sonamy because it’s crack)
>>584935225I LOVE BUMP
>>584935191Hi, may I ask you a sequel?
>>584935292based
>>584935353For what?
>>584935078American dumbshits can't tell the difference between nervousness and disgust
>>584935078Riders had really interesting and expressive models, I wonder why they were used specifically for that game. They did seem to go for a more CGI look for 06, Unleashed and after.
>>584935474To be fair the line read is awful in that scene
Two threads ago Krack admits that she thinks Duofag just wants to mate with her
>>584935078Show that image to anyone that isn't super familiar with their dynamic and they will not say Sonic looks nervous there.
>>584935642She also thinks that twitter trannys want to impregnate her
>>584932553>>584932971Okay, and what about this?
>>584935454Thishttps://poe.com/s/NZ1ab5bDNtsHQfMUsTHKplease?
>>584935717based soulful yumechad
sonic's green wife
>>584935663because the animation was botched
>>584935642>haha you're obsessed with me you must wanna FUCKThe faster we move on from this mindset collectively as a species, the quicker we'll achieve nirvana.
>>584935642He called her oc his wife tbf
>>584935793That’s not Surge
>>584935825>>haha you're obsessed with me you must wanna FUCKYeah, women like that irl do exist. It's stupid but they do exist.
>>584935793childish girl
>>584935895correct because she isn't sonic wife
>>584935642
>>584935731https://poe.com/s/SdkQrN75QazXjRWufudB
>>584935895That's weird, it looks like she has a heart pattern on her chest, but it disappears when you open the image.
>>584936068Hot
>>584932553>>584932971Based soulful Dougechad putting retarded women on their place (kitchen).
Evan's writing in a shellnut
>>584936204Evan wishes she could make a character as hot as Korra
>>584935793>>584935895>>584936005They can share him
https://forums.sonicretro.org/threads/amy-and-trip-in-sonic-the-hedgehog-2.44979/
Do you actually believe Krack just hates all other Shadow ships and spends all day targeting Shadouge? Why would she do that if she also draws Shadouge?
>>584936334Korra is fugly.
>>584936416I will rip your heart out and eat it krack
>>584935594Because they needed different models so the characters didnt look weird riding the Airboards.
>>584935927>no gurl he's being mean because he's actually head over heels for you, go get your man>brooo she's just playing hard to get, she doesn't actually hate your guts keep shooting your shotThis shit is idiotic on both sides and actively nauseating to witness in real time.
>>584935731Neat. I'm having a laugh at reading this.
>>584936334I mean...
>>584936416>Do you actually believe Krack just hates all other Shadow ships and spends all day targeting Shadouge?I mean, she's terminally online on Twitter stalking random xitter accounts soooooo (look at replies tab)... it's a possibility.>Why would she do that if she also draws Shadouge?She retweets that and halflid shit too. We will never really know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDN784rNhA
I have returnethed
>>584936467Uuu... Jess...
Evan can draw... comic book reviewers in an official Sonic comic
>>584936550Meant for >>584936107
>>584936476I'll best the first to shit all over Korra and the general state of the Avatar franchise post-original series, but her character design (and Henry Rollins) is the only thing that stops Korra being completely irredeemable trash>>584936575>brown>big tits>multiple powers (wisps)>lesbianFUCK YOU'RE RIGHT SHE DID JUST STEAL KORRA
>>584936334
>>584936713>Hat guy with the glasses Is that Joseph Mitchell?
>>584936204Korra hate is weird and retarded. It isnt even a competition. Korra hate comes from a combination of thongs but a lot of it is really just that she isn't Aang again more than anything.
Is Krack the archive schizo? I want to believe there's another anon doing it but I'm starting to have doubts.
Holy crap anons. South Park referenced us.https://pfst.cf2.poecdn.net/base/video/39d9ffff935e94dd3e1f37a76a208c99cfa6e18119cdfb119c1ea592e70bc63f?pmaid=658548744
>>584936890Korra hate is because the writing is fucking abysmal.>>584937019I ain't clicking that shit nigga
>>584936890>a lot of it is really just that she isn't Aang again more than anythingThat's trueAang is a actually a well-written character
>>584937010She is, also the same person who does all those retarded posts collage
>>584936204>Aang raped Ozai.
>>584937019Oh wow. You are not joking. That definitely is South AMERICA referencing us.
Douge
>>584937106>Aang is a better hero than Batman
but seriously, the colouring was so fucking good Steve Downer coloured some post-reboot issues, some pre-reboot SU isses, some Silver and Shadow ones
>>584936334>Implying they aren't hotter than Korra
I don't get why there's so much uproar about someone who just wants Shadow to act accurately
When shipfags fight either in favor or in opposition to a ship it's because they think the ship whether its their preferred one or opposed one has some legitimate chance to be present in official media. for this reason stuff like Sonouge, Silvamy, Shadolin or whatever are absent from shipdebates and usually just have people drawing fanart for it in corners
>>584937259Cute and canon!
You know how GTA 5 and Red Dead Redemption 2 have weather cycles but also realistic time cycles that determine how sunny or dark it is based on the time of the day? That's something I want to see in future games. I also want the games to have explorable interiors of buildings and to make it so that if water or mud get on your shoes, it shows
>>584936204it's eerily similar
>>584937287All digitally colored comics look the same to me.
>>584937309THIS NIGGA WEARING CROCS, ANON
>>584937287What's he been up to recently?Not that his coloring is going to save IDW as it is now
Random fags already made better stories than evan
>>584937412 (me)I want to see that in future Sonic games
>>584937259Silver's parents
Sonic should have at least one game where they turn everyone into gay niggers from outer space.
>>584937071>because the writing is fucking abysmal.Harping on the writing is retroactive. People make excuses for the writing of things thry already like and make up stories for ehy things they have some negative feeling about is actually just bad to make it sound more legitimate than it is.Season 1s writing is kind of sloppy in many respects but the rest of the show is comparable and in some regards better than ATLA.>>584937081Korra is well written. Aang is kind of carried by the rest of his cast while Korra has the opposite problem of ha ing a weaker cast to support her. Though, Tenzin, Lin and Genora were great and Korras Villains kinda clearThis is literally just Classic vs Adventure argument again we had earlier but for Westie element kungfu show for tweens who couldn't just watch anime.
Lanolin is the Korra of IDW.They both contributed to destroying a major piece of worldbuilding in there respective series and they have the same type of defenders.
> yfw Team Tempest will never be a thing
>>584936876It's Linkara>>584937429How is it to be blind>>584937456dunno
Don't open the door anon Amy is changing in there
>>584937352>ignoring all the shadally and sonurge fighting from the last 3 years
>>584937662I want to see more wet Lanolin
>>584937352Sonouge shit is actually pushed by the male IDW writers including Ian and I hate it.But more because I dont like what it does to either character.
>Trying to justify Korra's writingPLEASE take a shower! Please! I am begging you!
>>584937791It's only 2 people astroturfing shitposts over and over again to shit up threads and is completely nonexistant outside of 4chan which as like max 10 people posting at max. i am talking about common twitter/tumblr shipfag fights.
>>584937412Why?
Don't look if you're an IDW Sonic fan
>>584937554Why do the maid uniforms have boobie markings?
>>584937975Did you even watch the show? Or just repeat Youtuber opinions?Korra had it detractors when it was new (it always was gonna) but it
If you think Frontiers was better than a 5/10 then you need to get better standards.
>>584938061I think these are small details that would look cool in Sonic games
> Blaze the Cat will never give you this lookWhy live
>>584937637>Harping on the writing is retroactive.No it isn't you little underaged faggot.The writing is the biggest issue with Korra.Nick only commissioned one season at a time so nothing was done together. It was all from scratch every time.Korra was constantly shifting charactrisations, and not in a "growth" way but in a "uhh what the fuck do we do with her" way.Ego? Depression? Love triangle? Lesbian? Fuck it, throw darts at a wall.The ONLY redeeming qualities of the 4 season run were Amon, Zaheer and Tenzin. Every single other character is fucking terrible.I know you're baiting me but god dammit I am still to this day mad about Korra in general.The simple fact is that DiMartino and Konietzko are fucking hacks who got lucky with the first show and then proceeded to shit out a new one every 10ish years in hope of getting lucky again despite getting WORSE.This is on the level of people defending 06 as some unrefined gem. No. It was garbage. Trash. Terrible. Awful writing. Awful gameplay. You do not get to say "umm well achtually I liked it so that makes it good!". That is not how any of this works. When you get past puberty you might start realising this if you don't kill yourself first. Which frankly I would not argue against.
>>584938237Shhhhhhhh. Take a shower stinky.
>>584937894>>584937352Sonouge is propped up by the dumb (western) headcanon that Sonic is a loose flirt. It's something westfags came up with to try and cope with Archie being OOC. It's STILL OOC since it goes against one of the first character traits we were ever given for Sonic.
>>584938237*but it was overall well received when it was new. It only really started to get a lot more hate when things like the Starwars prequel sequels came out and so Korra got swept up in thr narratives around it as a "show that replaced a beloved male character with a girlboss" (even tho Korra isn't one)
>>584935078Sonic isn't in this image (the blue hedgehog that claims to be him starting with Adventure is Santiago the imposter, and has entirely different characterization than canon Sonic)
SHITNIC
>>584937894>Sonouge shit is actually pushed by the male IDW writers including Ian and I hate it.Is it really?
>>584937637>Aang is kind of carried by the rest of his cast while Korra has the opposite problem of ha ing a weaker cast to support her.I feel like that's a problem because Avatar is, at its core, an ensemble show. It was about a team of people from deferring cultures working together and growing with the Avatar.Only making the Avatar a strong and dynamic character is like trying to make Sonic the main subject of a story rather than the main supporting protagonist of someone else story, you lose out on something.
>>584935035Rouge's father is human and a retired GUN agent.Eggman gets most of his money from real estate, namely casinos and theme parks.The Classic Sonic from Forces was a Phantom Ruby construct.
>>584938419Sonic is a sissy in romance
Is Amy's moveset being mostly dependent on her fortune cards in Frontiers indicative of how influence SOA had over that game?
By the way they're going to assassinate Shadow next year
>Sonouge shit is actually pushed by the male IDW writers including Ian and I hate it
Brapple the doe
>>584938441You're saying RIDERS Sonic is OOC?
>>584938338NTA, but while 06 was a bad release, there's no worthwhile discussion born from treating everything about it as abominable. Its writing had enough merits that fans of characters like Sonic, Shadow or Amy still use some of it as examples, and its stage design was given credit by people even back when the game was treated as an insult to all of Sonic. Simmer down.
>>584938830Some bitch was claiming that people were overreacting and that Amy's Tarot cards weren't being overused
>>584938897We waited out Penders, we waited out Pontac and Graff, we can wait out Flynn.
>>584938423>even tho Korra isn't oneNot that I disagree bur what's your definition of a girlboss? People throw that term around a lot so it's becoming a vauge buzzword for something negative wth no clear definition.
>>584938963It's bait by someone who pretends to be a classic-only fan while ignoring a lot of classic material, don't bother.
>>584938897Is that the same manga where he jobs to shade
>>584938289They wouldn't though. Sonic goes too fast.>>584938338>underaged faggot.Im older than you are, you little shit.>The writing is the biggest issue with Korra.Most of the things people call writing issues aren't real. Because the desire to try and "prove" it is poorly written is what drives most of it.>It was all from scratch every time.This isn't true past season 1All 3 following seasons follow into eachother and build on eachother.>Korra was constantly shifting charactrisations,No she wasn't. Her arc is a negative one where she gets beaten down and broken and has to rebuild herself because who she was was a problem.>schizobabbleKorra not being a repeat of ATLA doesnt make it bad. We didnt need Water Aang being chased by Earth Zuko and working together with the nuGaang to defeat the Earth Queen or whatever.Just like Sonic Adventure isn't bad because you dont press doen on hills to watch Sonic roll through "physics" through loops specifically
>>584935035Sonic's dad drowned while saving him.
They need to hang out more
>>584938926Bapp the dapp
>>584939206Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, or talk about Sonic.What's your favourite Sonic game?
>>584939035Whoever said that is lying. I'm completely sick of what SOA has done to Amy and the fact that it doesn't go away no matter how much the fans protest against it
>>584938412Go back to >>>/co/Also its in character for Aang to not be perfect as a father.
You can't handle my crackshipsEverything you ever thought of, mine is 5 times worseor even better
>>584939238What would a story about these two be about?They went camping together that one time.
>>584937259Cute N Canon!
>>584936606apparently you stalk xitter accounts too
>>584939441WAITER WAITER, MORE MIND CONTROL PLOTS PLEASE
>>584938897Sonouge is pretty good though I prefer shadouge. What I can't stand is forced "opposites attract" garbage
>>584939578>forced "opposites attract" garbageexamples?
>>584939424> They went camping together that one timeLike every story written by Evan, Belle ended up taking it overExcept for this last one where it was taken over by a random deer
>>584938830Sonic Team had to fuck something up
Naka sees Sonic as the 90s equivalent of today's phone games and has said he always wanted to make casual games. Sonic games got more complex as he began to be less involvement with development. There is nothing complex about the classics
>>584939359Anon go to the bathroom! You're shitting yourself!
>>584938859Can't wait
>>584939401get on my level scrub
>>584939128It has become vague. I would say there is an element of percieved intent behind the implementation of the character that plays a roll.Korra from what I understand was basically the writers just leaning into how Katara was praised a lot for being a strong female character. Her thing with Mako was also likely the writers throwing Zutarafags a bone.Pattern with what people call girlboss characters seems to be the perception of replacing or upstaging beloved male characters in an existing series in ways that are or feel artificial to "appeal to the times". Often there is this sense that the character is artificially protected and allowed to get away with things because of it or whatever.I agree this exists, but its also just kind of devolved in the same way the term Mary Sue has where it just gets used to try and legitimize people's distaste for female leads of any kind in general.In Korra's case, you'll notice almost all discourse around it focuses on trying to make arguments about whether Korra is "better" than Aang or not. Because a lot of it is kind of the same thing like with Tailscels really.
>>584939206Unleashed actually pushed for the similar kind of thing to what that anon was describing (day and night cycles, places like cafes or streets with small details you wouldn't normally notice being part of some stages), but this focus on technical things had the consequence of the game running poorly. I believe 06 also had scrapped day and night cycles.>>584939694>There is nothing complex about the classicsThat's just disingenuous, one of the lead developers seeing them as casual games doesn't mean there's nothing complicated about them. His view is at odds with some classic fans' views, though.
>>584939401>Everything you ever thought of, mine is 5 times worseNOBODY has worse ships than me. Come on.
>>584938859>Shadow arc after Surge>Returning villainsIs it finally his time?
>>584939238Amy isn't allowed to talk about love anymore so it would be kind of boring desu.
You're really trying hard to bait people into your stupid conversation, huh?
>>584939280Sonic 3 for 2D and Sonic Adventure 2 for 3DThough I also really like Sonic Heroes.Also, Korra was a good show and Korra idsa better protagonist than Aang.
>>584939206>They wouldn't though. Sonic goes too fast.In Frontiers, you could walk as any character and if you happen to step in water or mud while walking, then I think it would be a cool small detail if the characters' shoes got wet or smudged with mud.I'm watching videos of Frontiers and it seems the game does have time cycles that makes the environment sunny or dark in a linear matter. I just wish the game had explorable interiors of buildings and other weather types like fog, mist, cloudiness, rain and thunderstorms
>>584939653Sonaze, sonurge, shadamy, knuxouge, zutara, malfoid etc
>>584940315knuxouge is canon retard
>>584939238Tangle is meant to be Ian's replacement for Amy since he hates Amy's femininity. Vault Tangle
>>584939905Sonic being liked by "core gamers" is just accidental. He wasn't designing complex physics for players to calculate exact jumps in real time or whatever pretentious nonsense certain people like to make up. Nothing disingenuous about pointing that out. The classic games are still fun and enjoyablehttps://www.siliconera.com/yuji-naka-on-how-to-make-video-games-for-the-world/>It was always my intention to make casual games by making my titles very accessible. It’s just for my earlier titles the core gamers became a fan of them. That wasn’t necessarily my plan. I always wanted to make games that everyone can enjoy, not just a small core audience.The classics aren't complex
>>584940243Korra would be a better character if she wasn't suddenly turned into a lesbian in the last 2 seconds of the final episode.
>>584938897The whole gag here is he is pissed at her for trying to seduce him which is in character.Ian and Male IDW writers write him like season 2 Alien Force Ben where he shmoozes and entertains her nonsense.
>>584938859>"very large role"He's gonna job harder than he has ever jobbed in this comic.
Remember that time when Korra opened up the spirit realm so that the hostile lifeforms that were placed in there specifically so that they wouldn't fuck with humans and kill them could go back to fucking with and killing humans and then it took a whole season for her to figure out why people were mad at her about that and that she should probably close it? What a stellar plotline that was. Anyway talk about Sonic now.
>>584940315You sound incredibly based
>>584939280>Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, or talk about Sonic.What if I'm Shadow, then I take the gun, shoot you and rape your corpse?IC btw.
>>584939905>Unleashed actually pushed for the similar kind of thing to what that anon was describing (day and night cycles, places like cafes or streets with small details you wouldn't normally notice being part of some stagesPeople criticized Ubleashed at the time for not having much detail, because while it has some, its still far far less for the standards of the time and that is yo be expected because Sonic goes too fast.The instances of it in Unleashed are either in the werehog sections ot thr instances of Medal placement for the most part.And even then most of it is frontloaded to Apotos, suggesting the idea was to inpress reviewers rather than it being a massive design goal.
>>584940752Not IC, Shadow wouldn't rape a man.
>>584940532>season 2 Alien Force BenThat is exactly how Ian writes Sonic and it's annoying
welp now I remember why I stopped playing
>>584940248You kids these days really do just want a simulated world to run away into rather than a game, im noticing. Must be all the motherfuckers growing up with Minecraft.
>>584940903Amazing stage
>>584939441IDW spends a lot of time trying to see how many characterfags they can piss off.
>>584940903I replay SA2 until I hit a shooting/treasure hunting stage and then I stop.It's that simple.
>>584939674Don't even get me started on how Sonic Team allowed the horrendous English script of Frontiers to make it to the final release of the game and how it affected the characters
>>584940857
>>584941007I hate it.>step on turbo pad>you ZOOOOOOM>for 2 seconds>then Sonic hits a mild slope and instantly stops>door closes>"you have to be faster, Sonic!">SHUT THE FUCK UP HOMO
>>584940513You mean post hoc by the writers in an internet article. Because just watching the show, unless you were already a shiptard you didnt really read anything into it and were just confused.Really I just wish they set it up better.
>>584940631Sonic would leave the spirit realm portal open.
I'll never forget this
>>584940959>do just want a simulated world to run away intoThe real outside world made them like that
>>584941452Normal people use alcohol to deal with that
Eat my dick gameI hate this level
>>584940457Knuxouge was super popular when sonic x was airing, then it slowly fizzled out for two decades. It got crumbs here and there but rouge doesn't treat knuckles any different than she does other characters, with the major exception being shadow, someone she actuallt cares for and is consistently shown to have a feelings for. I don't know how else to get this across to you people, so I'm just gonna say "told you so" when the inevitable occurs in a few years/months
>>584940773Hmm, that is interesting, I suppose you're right. It is frontloaded to Apotos, I think even Empire City doesn't have much other than a few spots.
>>584939441Why are the characters with OP powers getting jobbed so badly in this comic?
Shitty bullshit level with too many doors cleared.Somehow I got the highest grade I ever got in that fucking game.
Good ships> Sonamy> Sonaze> Sonurge> Knuxouge
>>584941803Polyamory?
>>584941679IDW hates power-le levels and nerfs everyone.
>>584941519addictions to escape from reality change with the times
>>584935225
>>584941947
>King Boom Boo boss>somehow the slave behind him with the hourglass is a LOT louder than in the Gamecube versionWeird.
>>584941862Yes
Two bosses back-to-back? Gee, I'm spoiled!
>>584942245Based boss
>>584942245The UI in 3D Sonic games is really awful until Shth
>>584939441Kek
>>584941071That's not a shooting/treasure hunting stage. Also, use stage select.
>>584942368I agree, they should bring Comic Sans back
>>584942368You mean the HUD, the menus were awesome
>>584941875Based. Characters should have narrative reasons to be important, not OP powerlevelfagging mary sue ones
How's it feel knowing this franchise is never going to be good again? Bet it stings.
>>584942639Yeah, that
>>584942649>alienates most of the audience No wonder IDW barely sells.
>>584942735We've had plenty of time to get used to it
>>584942735I accepted that the Sonic franchise will probably die in my lifetime.
Tails refer to an accident which cause the space colony to be closed. Going by Shadow Generations, he likely refers to the Biolizard breaking out of confinement.
>>584935793that's Shadow's green wife though
>>584941679Not any different from the games
>>584942823Sonic isn’t DBZ
>thread spent arguing about a namefag's shipping preferencesfilters are good
I hate this level.Tails is good in long/midrange engagements, but with all the doors in this fucking level, he's forced into short-range fights, where aiming is a pain in the arse and dodging is impossible.
>>584942964An "accident" is the excuse GUN invented to close it down and blame the deaths on. It's said in the last story and in the Japanese guide book.
I shit on all of you.
>>584940631Why are you treating fictional characters like real people and real people like fictional characters?
>>584942649>>584943005>https://www.sanrio.com/
I would do unspeakable things to Bump's pussy
>>584941803>sonazeno>sonurgeno>knuxougeno
I fucking hate this level. It's impossible to aim properly , you will hit dynamite, and then get suuucked dry.>>584943240Shadow Generations explains (or retcon) that by having GUN use the excuse of biolizard breaking confinement to lock down the ARK, so it did happen, justweeks before the closure.
>>584943005Anon...
>>584943259>Why are you treating fictional characters like real people and real people like fictional characters?
>>584940903>stopped playing at one of the best levelsAre you okay anon?
>>584943174I like it. I think it's really cool that Artificial Chaos serve as a highly effective counter against Tails.
>>584943259Korra is real people?
>>584943454I fucking hate how there's one fat Chao that can hit you literally through a door here. You walk to the door, it opens, and you take a hit and have Tails shrieking in your ears.
>>584942735It can only recover if the lore team is sacked and if it stops relying on the Paramount movies to maintain interest. Sonic Team also need to learn to hire other game studios for remasters of old games
>>584941242>>then Sonic hits a mild slope and instantly stops?Hold forward?>door closes>"you have to be faster, Sonic!">SHUT THE FUCK UP HOMOWhy are you larping on purpose?
I would do unspeakable things to krack’s pussy
>>584943379I was going to say it's a retcon but...>A biohazard suddenly broke out at the ARK research facility, and all colony residents were to be rescued from the disaster, and the colony was to be sealed off. This was the ostensible objective of the operation. The real objective, of course, was to shut down the ARK research facility, erase Project Shadow, and hold Pr. Gerald responsible for the disaster."biohazard" here must have been intended to be the Biolizard lol
>>584943379A lot of people usually focus on the controls and mechanics of SA2, but they hardly talk about the level design. How do you feel about the overall level design of SA2 compared to other Sonic games (2D or 3D)?I remember when I played it getting tapped out by Crazy Gadget.
>>584943174>>584943379Almost like Tails doesn’t belong in a mech :)
Who is right in the Shadria vs Shadouge debate
>>584944017No one
>choke at the very end of the level>die>score reset>grade went from S (probably) to ENOOOOOOOOO>>584943701It's confirmed as much in Shadow Generations.>>584943731How so? Level design is weird, but a hoop de loop in the middle of town can't be normal.I do dislike that Sonic's level go from a long, flat line where you just hold forward to actual platforming.
>>584941803none of these are good, chief. except knuxouge
>>584944017Me
>>584925719Please explain what the actual fuck you mean
>>584941452>>584941519Sonic says no to aimless eacapism.https://youtu.be/0WCBJoutVRM?t=518
I hate this level.I hate Knuckles' levels in general.
>>584943267>in the hello kitty for boys general
>>584940505Schizover!
Fuck this level.
>>584941540>e-rankHow? Even as a kid I got a D or C on my first go.
I still like SA2, but adulthood is realizing that SRB2 is better than all of my childhood favorite 3D Sonic games
>>584941546Dougefag cope lmaoKnuxouge is still more popular. Dougefag just were stuck in a bubble.
>>584944875ok
>>584941770>Shitty bullshit levelWhat's bullshit about it?
>>584945174It requires you to play football with asteroids. And the camera doesn't help.
>>584940476A low skill floor does not require or justify a low skill ceiling.
>>584945005Meanwhile, Sonic Team Jr. is spending their 10th consecutive year internally arguing about how they should redesign the entire game around what Sonic's mid air move should be to make him easy to control, but being too stubborn to accept the Homing Attack, all because Tails in SRB2 was originally designed like Team Rose in Heroes, and the average player just wants to play as Sonic and have an easy casual experience
>>584944062Oh I haven't seen this one before. nice.
>>584943240Yes and that accident was the Biolizard. This is also stated in thr guidebook
>>584945370Of course, you don't have to worry about that, all these games have speedrunning
Manic
>>584943174>Tails' last level is harderYes. That's how games work.
>>584944017Shadig chads
rekt
>>584945912I miss how the characters looked in the adventure games. It feels like their appearances just... died.
>>584943379>I fucking hate this level. It's impossible to aim properly , you will hit dynamite, and then get suuucked dry.Skill issue
Alright, final level of the shitty Hero Path.
>>584945619nice pussy dude
>>584943392Schizophrenia
>walk up to rail>Sonic refuses to ride it, walks off>die>use homing attack on rail>you don't target rails automatically in SA2>fly off>die>pull lever>falls in to void right away>dieI hate this level.>>584946052I prefer it to Shadow Generations, I always found Generations to look weird because of Shadow's side mouth.
>>584946091Anon, please
>>584943457No
>>584946294How are you so shit at video games, this is embarrassing.>you don't target rails automatically in SA2I guess it's for people like you that Sonic Team puts shit like that in the games.
>>584944517Awesome level!
>>584946294You struck a nerve, the fans who don't play games are furious at you.
>>584945005I dont get the glaze for it. I swear people only do because of pixel graphics and modability.
It is morally correct to mischaracterize non game characters
>>584945015>Knuxouge is still more popular. Dougefag just were stuck in a bubbleNice ESL, and no, it's maybe the top 10 if we're being generous. Even then, knuxouge is primarily just used by shadamyfags and sonadowfags to undermine rivals
Notice how earlier someone was claiming the Homing Attack makes things too easy in the Adventure games, but now someone who hates SA2 is actually playing it and his complaints are all about it being too hard and the Homing Attack not being the casualization that he wants it to be
>>584945369My post was about Death Chamber.Also you don't have to do anything woth the meteors in Meteor Heard. Its just for an optional upgrade.
>>584946884Did you reply to the wrong post? No one is furious at that guy. They're just calling him a noob at the game.
>>584947206Calm down, you're only embarrassing yourself.
>>584946963Whisper should hang out with Team Dark and be characterized like Samus
>>584946963Surge should be written like Juri Han mixed with Reverse Flash
This thread reeks of estrogen.
>>584946091>final levelLol
>>584947662Canonically, Final Rush never happened.
phew, finished my comic.
>>584946294>admits all his issues is because kf backporting bad habits from boost games
>>584947817Who are you quoting?
So which one is it then? Is SA2 bad because the Homing Attack removes platforming, or is it bad because the Homing Attack doesn't guarantee you safely land on rails or other types of platforms without putting in any effort?(It's neither, the former is someone who hasn't played SA2 assuming it's casualized like the 2010s games and the other is someone playing SA2 and being disappointed it's not casualized like the 2010s games)
>>584946964Schizophrenia.
>>584947765THAT'S THE WRONG DRAFT.
>>584943253How can a robot shit....
>>584947885The post he replied to? You don't lock onto rails in SA2 like in Generations, you actually need to aim at them and land.
I think i'm going to start bullying people if they write the comic characters IC. They should be OOC. The diamond cutters and the freedom fighters wouldn't have the same personalities if they were in the games because the game characters all have dogshit personalities in the comics.
>>584948114That post doesn't say anything like that. The schizo hallucinated a post and got mad about it.
>>584947046Many such cases.The homing attack in the Adventure era actually was involved and required skill in application.It just got watered doen in the Boost era. Everything is targetable, you can target everything from far as fuck and the targeting reticle dummed the entire act of positioning and timing to the point of nonexistence.
>>584945582how many times does the fastest runner get funneled into a scripted sequence?
>>584948013I don't know what I'm supposed to glean from this other than the fact that you're retarded and reading too far into SOCIAL MEDIA posts
>>584948016IC, Knuckles would say this
>>584948016Yeah this feels right
>>584948215About as often as in Sonic 2 or 3, since those games are also full of scripted sequences.
>>584947736Wtf are you talking about? Ofc it did.
>>584947765>>584948016Kek you almost had me
>>584947834Blackwood is so lucky
>>584948198Learn to read. He's complaining it's not automated like in Generations.
>>584948198Yes it does?
>>584948283>Sonic is a hardline puritan following the path of Oliver Cromwell
>>584948357No? Canonically, Sonic dies in the capsule, and everything that happens from there is a dream, Sonic was actually dead all along. Final Rush and Cannon Core never happened, Sonic died, Tails got defeated by Eggman and became his femboy pleasure item, Amy finally went into rehab for her drug issues, and Eggman took over the world and ruled it fairly.For 2 minutes before Shadow betrayed him and destroyed the earth.
>>584948539Yes, it did. It hallucinated a post, got mad about it, and now it's trying to retcon reality.
>>584948658Not him but I thought it ended when the space colony arc crash landed on earth? until some boy in green dress with a flute trapped them in a time loop
The only thing a newfag sucking at SA2 proves is that kids who have only played the Sewer Surfer boost Sonic games can't play video games that aren't rail roaded.
Damn anons I ate crappy undercooked brown portuguese food and now I feel sick, can you tell me a nice bedtime story so I feel better?
>>584948254Dougecel....>>584948805Anon...
>>584948857For the rest of them, yes.But Sonic historically dies in the capsule, unable to teleport away.Have you never wondered why it's never explained? It's Sonic coping with it. That's why there's so much red in the scene before it, if you see red, that means there's a phantom.>>584948805You pissed it off, it's furious.
>>584948859And that the Tailsfag from last thread pretending to be a Classicfag didn't actually play the game to know what he was talking about.Just repeating internet talking points to sound like more of a connoisseur than they are.
>>584948878
>>584946294I feel like that's a QoL thing rather than a game design issue. Honestly if you hate Crazy Gadget that much good luck with Final Rush.
>>584949120>he has to make it about his thread crush
>>584948859It also (further) proves that the anon who was complaining about the Adventure games having baby game design due to the Homing Attack hasn't played those games, doesn't know how the Homing Attack or the other moves work and doesn't know how the levels are designed.
>>584949212>He got filtered by a baby gametragic.
>>584938078Tangle is for RealDash>>584947834>Silver auditioning for Tamers
>>584948658>lTails got defeated by Eggman and became his femboy pleasure item,Nah he skinned him alive and turned his body into a rug and mounted his head onto a wall.
>>584949198Depth perception in SA2 is a huge issue. I don't think I ever had any issue with it in Shadow, Heroes or even Generation. In SA2, I find it oddly tough to tell where I'm going or if the enemy is in front of me or behind me.
>>584936503Seems like a skill issue
>>584949298>Tangle is for RealDashwho?
>>584949325what the fuck
>>584949198The one serious problem with Crazy Gadget is the camera being upside down to indicate the gravity switch, that's not an issue in Final Rush>>584949350Strange, never had that problem
Not naming names but some of you are too nice and give time to people who are clearly acting in bad faith
>>584949208>ThreadcrushYou love yourself too much dude.
>>584949458You need to play more.
>>584948878Think warm thoughts of fluffy tails
>>584949350Never had this problem. The game has a drop shadow.
I'm not either of the anons in that reply chain, but what if I said that maybe I do have a thread crush...
>>584949634Which isn't displayed if you're in the air or in space.
>>584949353>2D ArtAre you bring stupid on purpose?
I just got motion sickness from SA2 for the first time ever when the rando made me play Metal Harbor as Chao. The camera whiplash made me feel sick.
>>584949718You shouldn't have crushes on people from sthg
>>584949857You mean Weapons Bed?
>>584949919No, the rando made me play Metal Harbor as Chao.
>>584949482Would do it again!
>sthg learns SA2 is a bad game that people hate for good reasons
>>584949867You don't control feelings, anon...
>>584950009Is it even doable?>>584950026The story is fun. It's just the gameplay that's awful.
>>584949857Is this suppose to prove anything other than how much you suck?
>>584950026The "good reasons" being>I'm bad at the game>the mechanics aren't casualized like in the meta era games>a randomizer mod messed with the cameraYeah, sure.
>>584949761?Yes you typically need ground to see your shadow.
>>584950080>Is it even doable?All of the stages are set up with extra stuff for characters that aren't meant to play them, but even then things are kinda fucky. So yeah, it's doable. Crazy Gadget as Eggman didn't really want to work at the end section, though. I died a few times to it just chucking me off the stage when I flipped gravity.>>584950113Not really? Just saying I've never been made sick by the game before until it gave me a different character to play as and the camera and speed didn't really line up right. You don't have to be an asshole about it.
Sonic Adventure 2 doesn't have an ice level,it is a bad game.
>>584948878>portuguese foodThere's your problem, el stupido.You'd have lived longer if you had nice spanish meals
>>584949857>Metal Harbor as ChaoWut
I need more Honey
>>584950240Now you know why I hate Crazy Gadget.
>>584950321That's what I said. I don't have a screenshot from that level.
>>584950080The gameplay is great, you're just shit at it because it's harder than the average Sonic game. And not even that hard, all things considered, just harder than usual.>>584950261FINALLY a good argument. Yes, SA2 has poor stage variety. Still much better than Generations, Forces or Frontiers at least.
>>584950261I thought people hated those?Also most Sonic games dont have Ice levels.
>>584950275heh
>>584946294Be careful with rails in SA2 and other pre-Unleashed games, homing doesn't auto-target on them, so landing on them can be scary, but it's worth getting used to. For the switch, pull left and then the one after to get through safely.
Sonic Adventure 2 doesn't let you play as AmyTherefore it's a bad game.
>>584950672True.
>>584950672It does, in multiplayer
Sonic Adventure 2 doesn't let you play with 4 players,Therefore, it's a bad game.
>>584949857You are not alone anon. I always tell people not to play that garbage, but the Adventurefags are very unaware
>>584950672Why did Sonic Team have to sideline her like that? She was playable in SA1
>>584947345Whisper should bee a loner with no friends, and fatter tits.
>>584948331that's why sonic cd is the best classic sonic game
>>584950832How are none of you retards replying to that post not properly reading it and not realize that he is talking about an UNOFFICIAL MOD that fucks with the camera and the things he's saying don't apply to the actual gameHis whole point was that this shit doesn't happen in the original game
>>584950345Archie Honey is abyssal dogshit.
>>584950846Because she's a shit character
>>584950468I wouldn't call it poor, but its certainly less variety than the classics or Heroes.
Sonic Adventure 2 didn't even add Silver or Blaze to multiplayerTherefore, it's a bad game.
>>584947345>>584947542I'm serious. All fan projects should invent new dynamics for comic OCs. The comics deserve to be treated how they treat the games.
>>584950846SA2 was seemingly made to be more focused than SA1, so they focused on less playstyles and Amy's was likely deemed not worth it. >>584950832Which Sonic games do you like, then?
Amy Rose has concer
>>584951076sa1's shit gameplay made her a shit character
>>584951164Like a bad fur day?
>>584950672You can play her in Multi-player! And she is OP!
>>584951164I'm surry to hoar that.
>>584951080Yes, I agree with that too. I find it poor by comparison to the other games from that era. Generations and Frontiers are just poor period though.
>>584950571It's just irritating because the hitbox for the rails is just so small. You have to land on it precisely to grind. Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 has bigger hitboxes.
>>584950846Because SA2 had one character of each playstyle for each side. They would have had to make an evil amy and they didn't have that amount of dev time. Since the dreamcast was literally on its way out as they were making SA2.
>>584951158>make a character's gameplay shit for no reason>feedback to the character's gameplay is negative>scrap the characterSONIC TEAM LOGIC
I can't masturbate to Amy or Rouge because I respect them. The diamond cutters I can coom to all night long.
>>584950795Isn't the Chao Races 4 player?
>>584951225She's exactly the same as-- oh right, I forgot for a minute the GC version for some reason ruined the game balance and made the extra characters OP
>>584951307>having to land on platforms in a platformer is irritating, I need a button to automate itGo play your meta era slop.
>>584951324metal sonic
>>584951450Who are you quoting?
Sonic Adventure 2's homing attack makes the game too easy and when I use it I die,Therefore it's a bad game.
>>584951352Okay but remember how instead of removing the Mary Jane missions from the Spider Man games they made them "better" instead of accepting that nobody wants to play as Mary Jane? Scrapping Amy was the right call.
>>584950672at least you can play as tikal...in multiplayer
>>584950846The best part of Amy in SA1 was her character and story application. Her gameplay was seen as expendable.
>>584951352Amy's hammer jumps are fun. SA2 just needed 3 parallel characters for its core idea.>>584951489(You).There is nothing wrong with platform being small, just get good at the game.
>>584951225>Amy had one game with a unique playstyle before they gave up and made her a sonic cloneKEK
>>584951307I wouldn't say it's too precise and I think it was done to add a precision element to getting on rails while playing quickly, but it does take getting used to and can be not to everyone's tastes.
>>584951569I would ask if Gigi is okay but we all know the answer.
>>584951364Which ones?
>>584951653I literally never said that, stop getting mad at your own strawman, it's pathetic and miserable. It befits your lowborn origins, though.
I'm crying tears of joy. Sthg is arguing about... THE GAMES
>>584951506They just made Amy a sonic clone anyway, so what was the fucking point?
>>584951786You complained about the hitboxes of the rails being too small for you to land on them. Get better at the game.
>>584951136>not adding bad characters makes your game badNews to me>>584951352But Amy wasn't scrapped. She was in the game and played key roles in the story
Quick someone say something about a comic
>>584951352You seem obsessed with hating Adventure 1 Amy's gameplay. I like it a lot, but also, there's nothing to indicate that feedback was the reason they removed it in the first place, given they added elements of it to her playstyle in Heroes where all characters were unified to an extent, and were fine with Dimps doing their spin on it for the Advance games.
>>584951790We'll be doing this for the next 10 minutes before we realize the games are shit and go back to arguing about ships
>>584951743I dunno, I played Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, Jet Set Radio, never had any issues with landing on a rail in these.Only in the mediocre, half-baked SA2.>explosives are very badYOU DON'T SAY
>>584934894This current world was BUILT on the corpses of a thousand JavaScript sacrifices and you will PROPERLY pay RESPECTS to them NEXT THREAD for SHEDDING BLOOD AND SANITY scripting themselves into CORNERS while writing FIFTY DIFFERENT PLUGINS WITHOUT REALIZING THAT TWENTY OF THEM WERE ALREADY MADE BY SOMEBODY ELSE BUT BETTER
Sonic Adventure 2's kart racing game wasn't good,Therefore it's a bad game.
>>584951934
>>584951502kek
>>584951409>ruined If you want a balanced match, you play as Sonic and Shadow.Having Amy and Metal be actual distinct characters instead of reskins is a net improvement.
>>584951485Metal sonic plays nothing like adventure amy. She's just a sonic reskin in 2 because she's an easter egg. Same as how chaos plays like knuckles, instead of having any of his SA1 abilities.
>>584951978Sonic Adventure 2 tells you explosives are badtherefore it's a bad game.
>>584952043Fake, you couldn’t hide those tits in there
>>584952043What a bully.Corrective rape needed.
>>584951934it's shit and ass and not video games
>>584951934I would shag whisper
>>584951485>metaloser
>>584951949Indeed. I don't understand the Amy hate either
>>584951918>But Amy wasn't scrapped. She was in the game and played key roles in the storyacting as shoddy comic relief, getting kidnapped, then convincing shadow to kill-steal the biolizard from sonic and then kill himself
>>584950672SRB2 lets you play as Amy. Therefore SRB2 is a good game.
>>584951978I wouldn't call SA2 mediocre at all, but you do you. I like how SA2 does rails and find the risk created by needing to land on them fun, though I prefer how the rails are used in the Dimps games overall. There's also a fun use of them in Heroes' Final Fortress, where you have to be careful on a circular rail and hop off to grab onto a handlebar.
Pumpkin Hill. I hate this level.
>>584951934Tittums
I never got complaining about s2 alternate playstales.GTA games have tons of shit no one likes but you can just ignore it and play the fun parts just like sa1
>>584952375You hate every level.
>>584951663She isn't really a clone. She is slower, has no spindash, etc.
>>584952375It's too big>>584952398It's too small
>>584952375Yes, you have shit taste, we get it. You don't need to remind us every 10 minutes.
>>584952356I think the camera is mostly to blame for that. It tends to get far behind you once you go fast, which complicates difficult platforming, and I have trouble bringing it close to safely hop on rail.Normally I wouldn't have to control the camera, but SA2 is pretty fucking awful with that.>>584952474No, I like Robotnik's levels. He's the best character and has the best levels in the game.
I think Shadow the Hedgehog is the best game
>>584951949>>584952304it was a bad first impression in a game about going fast, and it made less and less sense in each game until 06 made it fucking miserable
>>584951954The true Blaze ship is Omega x Blaze, Ian is based for this
>>584952506Imagine not giving Amy a spindash. She's a hedgehog just like Sonic and if Tails can be able to spindash, then so should Amy
>>584952375Are you playing the stages through stage select? You can restart treasure hunting stages to reset item locations, and specific hints correspond to specific items.
>>584952635smug cat
>>584952581It's been a while since I've played SA2, but... isn't the camera automatic? You can move it left and right while standing still, but resets when moving, right?
Road 101, I hate this level. Driver on the Playstation looked better.>>584952683But if you use hints, you lose points, and then you have to listen to Knuckles crying and whining as he gets another E.
>>584952118then make amy play like metal sonic
The paradox of Sonic game design is people complain about the games not having enough platforming but the minute you give them any, they complain.Sonic games struggle to escalate in challenge because doing that interrupts the power fantasy a lot of players latch onto of going fast.But if you have nothing but that it gets old.Without fail I notice people get tired of Sonic games either because the adrenaline if going fast gets old, o because they get to the point in the game where the game remembers its a game and actually tries to challenge the player and asks them to engage with in in any intricate way.
>>584952819>But if you use hints, you lose points, and then you have to listen to Knuckles crying and whining as he gets another E.I'm pretty sure that's just because you suck ass
>>584951790and it only took hundreds of threads about shipping and comics for it to happen>>584951934big black wood
>>584952448It's only bad when Sonic does it. Mario Galaxy does the same thing with its gimmicky motion controls levels but it's good because it's Mario and Nintendo made it
>>584952925Niggercock!
>>584952375sonic fans will twist themselves into knots to defend terrible game design decisions when the obvious answer is the game needed filler
>>584951978Because there isn't any real consequences in those games. In SA2, you miss a rail and die.
>>584952819>But if you use hints, you lose pointsThat only matters if you can play well enough to the point where the slight point loss matters. You need to get good and learn the stages first. Even then, the best players also use the hints strategically and still get A ranks.
>>584952581>I think the camera is mostly to blame for that. It tends to get far behind you once you go fast, which complicates difficult platforming, and I have trouble bringing it close to safely hop on rail.Interesting, I don't have trouble with SA2's camera but find the 3D boost games' camera difficult to get used to, and have trouble with some of SA1's camera angles.>>584952621I am not sure how it's a bad impression, it's a unique playstyle that was still made with going fast in mind, just making it more difficult to do so. Heroes also made it easier to play faster as her, and the Dimps games introduced their own unique elements to make her more effective. >>584952819It's actually a system, you get a point reduction per item for each hint usage, but I think depending on how quickly you get to an item also affects point bonus.>>584952914That is true.
>>584952448>>584952992mario and gta don't lock the properending behind a fishing minigame
>>584953036Blaze's husband
>>584952375Nigger Pumpkin Hill is Knuckles' best stage
Yooosh.>>584952818Not fully. The camera only really moves if you move, it doesn't get behind you if you just spin in place, and in some rooms, it's locked at a fixed angle to make you move forward.So if you fuck up, you can end with the camera too far and too high to properly see where you're going, and the manual controls are atrocious.>>584953105That, and they have some sort of magnetism that lands on you the rail even if you're near it.In SA2, you need to land ON it or you fall and die.
I enjoyed some of the treasure hunting levels. except mad space. mad space is objectively trash
>>584952331>comic reliefIf that is what you took away from Amy in thr game, you weren't paying attention to her arc or character to begin with.Seemingly just because she wasnt playable.
>>584936416If Krack was as schizo as they say, she would attack Scribbles on sight.
>>584953061>"terrible game design decisions">click on quoted post>see kino game design and gameplayYeah ok
>>584952375What do you hate about it?
>>584953193I don't remember having any issues with the camera in Shadow, whether it was Hedgehog or Generations, but Generations is cheating because they had years to fix the god-awful camera of SA2.I remember having some issues in Sonic Heroes, but usually when I tried to explore about the levels and see if there were any secret platforms or anything. The camera would suddenly whip to a predetermined angle, and Tails would fall to his death.
>>584952914>The paradox of Sonic game design is people complain about the games not having enough platforming but the minute you give them any, they complain.I've seen recent discourse about just this. "Gotta go fast" gets into everyone's head and they start hating the game when they're asked to do anything but move forward/right.
CnC
>>584953230Okay, so it's as I said, you don't actually control the camera in any meaningful way.>>584953242Same, that's the one treasure hunting stage I dislike.
>>584953378Now you're getting it
>>584953392It's a Knuckles level. I hate Knuckles levels. And Rouge too.They have very good music but damn do I hate running in concentric circles to try to find where the treasure is.
>>584952581>It tends to get far behind you once you go fast, which complicates difficult platforming, and I have trouble bringing it close to safely hop on railYou'll have to make a webm because I cant imagine what you mean
>>584953617But Sonic loves dull moments
>>584952676>She's a hedgehog*rolls eyesNo anon, Amy doesnt need back spines and Sonic's hairstyle either.
>>584953585You'll have to wait, unfortunately. Friend decided to start streaming me Xenoblade Chronicles 3, I'm not allowed to play anything for the 10 hours until we're done with this game's story.I'll try to record one later to show exactly what I mean.
>>584953230>they have some sort of magnetism that lands on you the rail even if you're near it.The issue with this is, in a Sonic game having this would make rails too easy to make use of, and potentially have the side effect of slipping onto rails when you don't want to. A similar thing can happen in some 2D games when some objects have big hitboxes for the same purpose. I can see why you prefer that, but I like how SA2 does it.Funny Chao though>>584953428>The camera would suddenly whip to a predetermined angleI've seen that happen sometimes in SA1. Maybe it was an issue with how they handled camera that they dealt with in Shadow.
>>584953428Generations doesn't have a better camera than SA2, it has level design so incredibly basic and bland that the camera doesn't matter whatsoever.>>584953543Remember the notable landmarks, listen to Omochao, and use the hints. If you're running in circles for 15 minutes, you're not engaging with the game design and features.
>>584951790We realized the comics are shit
>>584952819>But if you use hints, you lose points, and then you have to listen to Knuckles crying and whining as he gets another EYou can use hints and still get A ranks. The idea you can't is a myth.You can get A-ranks in over half the stages even using every hint.
>>584953617Fleetway Sonic is more IC than Archie Sonic and I'm tired of people pretending he isn't just because he's kind of harsh
https://youtu.be/wHC5Ceemb7M?si=AUH5ClThz2pErD6I
>>584953975I still don't like how this artist tries to avoid Manik and Sonia being recolors by giving them completely different heads. They're Sonic's siblings, they're supposed to be recolors.
>>584953975Is this image bigger?
>>584953928They are both different versions of character
>kind of harshFuck off paps.
vamp sheep
>>584954090Archienic isn't a Sonic at all. He wasn't even born Sonic.
>>584954062Then you draw themI like the artist's redesigns.
>>584954197Bestie, please not now...
Fuck sake that jumping animation is janky.>>584953730>potentially have the side effect of slipping onto rails when you don't want toThat's why I like Tony Hawk's approach where you press a button and your skater will be attracted to the nearest rail.The fact that it's passive in Sonic Adventure 2 makes for awesome shots when it works, but I can guarantee you that I never let go of the joystick, so whenever Sonic flies up and is meant to land on a rail or a pole, he'll miss him.>>584953801I'd take basic level design that I feel like I can move through smoothly over more advanced level design where I struggle to move forward because wooops, that bar was out of range and and you just fell down the hole, now you gotta climb back lol.>listen to OmochaoHIIIIIIISSSSSSSS>>584953874>You can use hints and still get A ranks. The idea you can't is a myth.WHAT
>>584954062Being related doesn't excuse lazy designs just being lazy unless they are identical twins>>584954197Whether you like it or not he is officially Sonic
>>584954292He's OOC
>>584954292>Being related doesn't excuse lazy designs just being lazy unless they are identical twinsTRIPLETS BORNTHE THRONE AWAITS
>>584954350So what? He got fundamentals to him
>>584954291You struggle because you're bad at video games and prefer oversimplified garbage mechanics like the meta era games.
>>584954427Archie didn't get any of the fundamentals
>>584954292>lazy designs>head being shaped like Sonic instead of a completely random non-hedgehog themed spiral Classic Amy and Shadow end up looking more like Sonic this way. Sonic's family in the manga are all just recolors of him. Those redesigns are trying too hard to fix a non issue.
>>584953230>That, and they have some sort of magnetism that lands on you the rail even if you're near it.>In SA2, you need to land ON it or you fall and die.Because SA2 is a platformer. It actually does have some magnetism. It just isn't as forgiving because you're supposed to actually land on them.The game doesn't really make having to do so do or die until the final level as well.
>>584953428How old are you
>>584953723then Amy should be able to spindash because cream can do it
>>584954427You could probably write a checklist of every official statement about Sonic's personality that Archie somehow fucked up We need to go back, this new era is worse
>>584953428Is that... a dissenting opinion????? AIIIIEEEEEEE
>>584954543Amy and Shadow have unique and iconic details that make them separate from Sonic even if similar.No wonder virtually no one cares about his manga family.Manic's and Sonia's designs are lame that is, just not as much as everything else in that show
>>584954634I seriously can't stop thinking about how funny it is that he is arguing SA2 is bad for the opposite reason of what the SA2 hater in the previous thread was saying
>>584954449Look who's talking modern bab.
umokhope the president used lube
>>584954897I'm not going to argue with that, but you might as well not use them. It's like redesigning kid Goten because you don't like that he's a Goku clone. Why even bother with that character at that point?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wWAyLZEVokIf the moon holds water, it will not rain.
Are there any signs that Amy's character portrayal in the English dubs will finally get fixed?
>>584955048Point is i enjoy Sonia and Manic, just want them to look more consistent with Game/Archie/IDW designs
>>584955027>hope The human cuckqueen
>>584955027>hopeNot good enough to fuck Shadow. Never will be.
The best mech stage ditched almost everything that made the others awful but no one is ready to admit that
sonamyfags are reporting sonally shit on twitterthey were slapping hands with shadamyfags 2 days ago as well.
>>584953461It's very obvious to me the Adventure Games were trying to broaden Sonic because the series wasn't just that, but people hated it and so thats how we got to the BoostBut the Boost's biggest criticism is that it gets old and is samey.People say they like playing Sonic 2 but fall off by Oil Ocean. Either its because they found the game got old or because Oil Ocean acrually starts challenging them.Sonic Heroes ive seen people complain saying Heroes is good until you get to either Rail Canyon or Final Fortress because they start challenging them.People don't wanna admit they are addicted to sugar and their addiction is the problem.
>>584955163Sonic's immediate family in Archie look even more like him than Sonia and Manic though. Besides, Sonia and Manic's design are just the generic hedgehog template. The only character that deviates nearly as hard as that artwork is Silver. Manic and Sonia looking LESS like Sonic than Silver is weird.
>>584954291>HIIIIIIISSSSSSSSHello Anonymous! Did you know that you can also make use of Omochao's help in the 2D games, too?>WHATGetting one shard/etc within under a minute grants high score bonus, and it is deduced with time and each hint usage. Playing quickly means hint deductions won't affect the score as much, though if you want to get ranks more easily, it's best to balance it and only use one hint per shard.
>>584953543Use the hints? Fly around? It's fun!
>>584955419Oh so there IS a point reduction per hint.I knew it.>>584955430"Fun" is just a buzzword.
Ken Penders is gay and old. She can marry Shadow if she wants.
>>584955348Those are his parents straight up tho, and they do have unique traits to them, with Jules being a robot and Bernie later having blue-purple fur, siblings being different from each other is not a problem, especially considering activities Sonia and Manic partake in, one being a spoiled rich and other a guy from the slums
>>584954291>WHATYes. It's one of those things spread abput back in the day by SA1fags and and Classicboomers to make the SA2 hunting stages sound worse than thry really are to win fandom wars.
>>584955579She was literally created to betray Shadow and she only liked Archie Shadow because he's an OOC softboy. The real game Shadow would scare her.
If there is a ring about the moon, it will rain.
>>584955656Game Shadow was a soft boy in Gens to a degree
>>584955597I feel like we're overthinking this. I just think it's weird to completely remove any resemblance, especially when it's just the back quills. Sonia and Manic look less like Sonic than Uncle Chuck. If we're nitpicking biological likelihood, that's just silly. They would look more like him than he does 9/10 times. It's good artwork, I just never saw how sharing the same backquills as Sonic (the only thing that even makes them remotely look like hedgehogs) is bad
>>584955506>Oh so there IS a point reduction per hint.There is, but other than the hard mode mission, because the treasure is always in the same three places, you have to use them to get the A ranks if you're trying to do all of the emblems. There just isn't enough time to bumble through all of the random spawns blindly and still make A rank times.
>>584955597Kids resemble their siblings more than their parents mate
WIP of a tier list maker>>https://tiermaker.com/create/nearly-all-sonic-characters-18884907
>>584955623It's more of an understanding issue, where a lot of people assumed using hints for A Rank is inherently bad due to the reduction when it's more effective to use one hint unless you're absolutely certain about the location of one of the items. There's posts on GameFAQs that recommend not using hints that don't have any negativity towards SA2.
>>584954834Cream shouldn't. It makes no sense that she did in any capacity.
>>584955952Its a world with cartoon animals, and other points like their activities cover that
I don't think it's possible to fully describe how much I hate foids.
>>584955293>People say they like playing Sonic 2 but fall off by Oil Ocean. Either its because they found the game got old or because Oil Ocean acrually starts challenging them.It's the latter>People don't wanna admit they are addicted to sugar and their addiction is the problem.It's fine if they enjoy simple gameplay like that in my opinion, I think they should just admit it though instead of acting pretentious
>>584955791The only reason Hope calmed down to Shadow was because he gave her life advice and praised her decision to move back in with the humans.
>>584954938Me and my brother were casually doing giant skips at like 7-10 years old and landing on rails just fine as casuals who couldn't even get A-ranks in most levels.Kids today are too coddled man.I miss when playing the game was part of the game.
>>584955579Maria needs spankings.
>>584955506No one said there wasn't. You can still get A ranks while using them. You also shouldn't expect to get A ranks when playing for the first time or refusing to put in any effort, which is all you do.
>>584956139Don't see a problem
>>584955964You even put in the different guardsmen
>>584956139>hope starts out biased against mobians>eventually learns they're kind of cool >hope leaves the humans to live with the mobians>moves back to the humans after the timeskip>joins gun>has one conversation with shadow where she says he's a lot nicer than she thought he was>never fucking talks to any mobians ever again what did archie mean by this
>>584955830Makes sense. These are still terrible levels, I want to play Sonic, not Prop Hunt.
>>584956331Yep
*restarts the stage until a specific emerald location set appears*
>>584956287An interaction game Shadow would never have
>>584956451Still don't see any problems
>>584956451You basically never see Gamedow give any advice or talk for long periods unless he's doing his stupid anime speeches. I can see why he has no friends.
>>584956451It's almost as if... wow, hold on... that Archie is Archie doing their own thing, and games are games also doing their own separate things!Wow, shocker! Couldn't have seen that coming! Retard.
>>584956392>has one conversation with shadow where she says he's a lot nicer than she thought he wasShe's literally praising him for traits game Shadow doesn't have. She would hate Shadow if she was in the games. I can't believe Archie created a Maria successor who doesn't get along with Shadow's core personality.
>>584956108I said both things because its both. Ive seen people say they get kinda bored by Oil Ocean. If they don't get bored, they get annoyed the game is challenging them.Sonic 3 has the same thing. Flying Battery or Sandopolis.Even Generations has people say this for Planet Wisp.>It's fine if they enjoy simple gameplay like that in my opinion, I think they should just admit it though instead of acting pretentiousI agree, but as someone who actually likes the more involved games in the series, I actually kind of resent this attitude in general because things like Heroes' gameplay or the enemy or level interaction for points in SA2 are things you cant really get anywhere else.And the fangame scene is kind of possessed by trying to make everything a constant movement but with slope physics game instead as well.
>>584956731> Archie created a Maria successorYou're being retarded on purpose and it shows you never read Archie.
>>584956392In Ken Penders's future, Shadow sneers at Hope and forgets about her on purpose. In Ian's future, Hope becomes one of Shadow's enemies. In the prime universe she simply gets erased. Their friendship was fucked.
>>584956731You seem to really like to have Shadow being a dick, i thought people liked him for his depth
>>584955506>"Fun" is just a buzzwordIt's a videogame. Let yourself be immersed in the power fantasy of being the Knuckinator and a master treasure hunter who knows the lay of the land and can play detective lickity split.
>>584956829Retarded how? I'm wrong for expecting Shadow the Hedgehog to act like Shadow? Sonic X was able to create a friend for Shadow without removing his personality and making him act OOC. Hope is shit. >>584956896>his depthHe already has depth. You don't need to force him to be softer than he actually is.
>>584956812>I agree, but as someone who actually likes the more involved games in the series, I actually kind of resent this attitude in general because things like Heroes' gameplay or the enemy or level interaction for points in SA2 are things you cant really get anywhere else.>And the fangame scene is kind of possessed by trying to make everything a constant movement but with slope physics game instead as well.True, you make good points. My hope is that if they acknowledge what it actually is that they like then we can get some harder games that are explicitly not made for them as well.
Last time we had this Hope argument Penders dropped a book on our heads. Please don't summon him again.
>>584955952My siblings look more like my dad while I look like my mom.
Once again this place proves to be a shithole, how nice
>>584957173>"At least you still have a general...."
>>584956896Depth? Archie Shadow removes all the subtlety and just makes him openly kind. That wasn't depth, Archie Shadow never had game Shadow's starting point. 06 Shadow had depth.
I really fucking wish Krack never mindbroke /sthg/ entirely into this whole icky and oocky debacle spergo shit. You can't talk anymore alternate media like Archie because formulaic parroting autists love copying opinions from today's grooming prophet and just dilute discussion into a severe hellscape of parroted stagnant shit."muh ooc muh ic muh not sahnic" I don't care, please fuck off back into games.
>>584955980It's a mix of the two and started leaning towards the former post 2010s.
>>584956896People can have depth and not be very nice. The idea nice guys have depth and bad guys dont is the mindset of children.
>>584957262She didnt mindbreak anyone, in any case, any unemployed autist can derail the general by samefagging and astroturfing an idea all day
Didn't someone here have a week long tantrum because of an animation where Hope was thinking about Shadow because it's "OOC for canon Shadow to get along with Hope"? I'm getting deja vu
>>584957262Why are you acting like you are above calling things OOC if they're OOC? >>584957425It is OOC for game Shadow to get along with Hope
>>584957250>>584957020>>584957456>>584957415Okay but no need to samefag. I'm sorry Hope triggers you or something Krack
>>584956896>depth is when you take a cold character and make them openly warm and respectfulHopecucks want to replace Shadow
Kill all Shadow fans
>>584957632Archiefag...
>>584957612We heard you the first time, chill.
>>584957632IDW writers...
>>584957492>KrackLiterally who? Not your boogie man. The traits that make Shadow and Hope get along in Archie don't exist in the games. She would never get along with the real Shadow.
>>584957612>>584957415>>584957250You know you can still have Shadow be cold and have him nice underneath enough for Hope to latch on to him, right?
>Literally who?Way, way, WAY too obvious.
Will the next big Sonic game release in 2028? I feel that the Movie 4 tie-in game will be released soon after the release of Movie 4
>>584957830She saw him defending himself and was scared of him. >>584957425The animation wasn't the issue. Shadow and Hope are not compatible.
>>584958006She saw him actively ready to kill someone
sa2fags got btfo
>>584957262Archie fags will literally call things from the games OOC and think they have the authority to stand above fans of the actual characters.
>Shadow with everyone else: "Hmpf. Don't waste my time.">Shadow with Big: "You shouldn't stay here, it's dangerous."
>>584957425Yeah that's him who got mindbroke lol. He already replied you two times, couldn't be anymore obvious.
>>584957262>thinking anyone archie is just KrackYou give the bitch way too much credit dude.
>>584958148Nobody does that
Imagine thinking Shadow would fall in love with someone just because she looks like Maria. Archie is disgustingly OOC in every direction.
>>584958148did you know that sonamy is a crackship that will never ever be canon no matter how hard you try to undermine other media?
>>584957718Shadow being jobbed always is canon to games>>584957694Archie is separated from games, not applicable
>>584958347At this point you are making stuff up to ragebait, stop it
>>584957492Not everyone is your boogiefoid
SA2 is bad and OOC
Penders confirmed that Archie Shadow wasn't going to ever become friends with Hope, that was another Ian Flynn change. >>584958458Archiefags unironically believe only one person thinks their comic is incredibly OOC
>>584958347>Shadow would fall in love withOuting yourself hard, Krack.
>>584957830I literally don't not care. I just don't like when people insist Shadow not being nice makes him 1 note or shallow.People who cry out for empathy while lacking the capacity for it.
That version of Hope is clearly having incestuous sex with Chris so what fight about it
>Archiefags defending the most blatantly OOC version of Shadow>again
>>584958605Incestuous?
>>584958218Big is cool
>>584958661>>584958347>>584958148At this point I seriously think you're just a bot someone turns on while arguing yourself along to astrosurf
I did a big fat shit in the KFC
>>584958674Just sthg being braindead
>>584958745Damn right he is.
>>584958661not our fault archiedow is the superior version
Wait, what's Krack's 4chan theme? I could've sworn she had a theme pretty like >>584958458
>>584957830Hope literally didn't like Shadow until he started doing things Shadow would never do. Archie can't come up with characters. She embodies everything wrong with Archie and Ian's writing. He can't envision a character actually liking Shadow for who he is, so he makes Shadow nicer so he can "earn" that kindness. Imagine doing that to Shadow with Maria's face.
If a character has a different personality from the games, then they're ooc
>>584958923Schizophrenia
>>584958661Who said anything about incest?
>>584958976Can you shut up already
>>584959204Meant for >>584958674
>>584959310Stop trying to force people to treat Archie on the level with canonical materials
Can we stop talking about Shitdow?
evens, a napodds, energy drink
We were having a great discussion about the games, and Archie fags ruined it because they can't accept that their comic never represented the Sonic franchise. It never featured picrel. It was never a Sonic comic. It was a weird OOC spinoff made by a bunch of old men who didn't care about the characters, never played the games, and thought they could do "better" than the games. If you tell an Archiefaggot that a character NEVER ACTED THAT WAY IN THE GAMES they still try to argue. Imagine being so fucking stupid that you can't accept that your adaptation got the characters WRONG. Archie Shadow is a shitty "interpretation" of the character. It isn't even an interpretation, they didn't even try. They should have given him a different name and design since he was just another Archie OC. Then you have these fucking retards who actually think Shadow would get along with someone who hates people who act like him just because she looks like Maria. You never cared about Shadow.
Who came up with the idea of a game collection for the Nintendo Switch 2 that had Colors, Forces, and Frontiers? Was it Iizuka. No one asked for this. Everyone hates that Sonic Team did this while refusing to remaster SA1, SA2, and Heroes
Hope is Bollers', not Penders'.Godawful trolling (and botting), bro.Speaking off anyway, I do love Hope, being a immigrant overlander off space coming to settle in and make her way into warming onto mobians, learning their culture through our eyes' perspective and also cohabiting with Shadow, who in turn would as to expect get some mind fuckling dazzles and infatuation for as she reminds Maria strongly. It wasn't really intended but I'd have loved to see Shadow trying some more to know her as Hope does too.Just too bad we never got to see through it all, the dynamic progress. Not sure if I dig with Ian on relocating her into Station Square.But as they say, many great Archie lore tidbits and characters, alas all wasted for the little of time it had in plain sun.
Sonic game design was never good
>>584959816>We were having a great discussion about the gamesNo one was stopping you from continuing the talk.>Archie fags ruined it because they can't accept that their comic never represented the Sonic franchiseThey were talking about the comic amongst themselves, but you can't help but seethe even if no one's talking about Archie.
>>584959998>Speaking off anyway, I do love Hope, being a immigrant overlander off space coming to settle in and make her way into warming onto mobians, learning their culture through our eyes' perspective and also cohabiting with Shadow, who in turn would as to expect get some mind fuckling dazzles and infatuation for as she reminds Maria strongly. It wasn't really intended but I'd have loved to see Shadow trying some more to know her as Hope does too.And then she undermined that entire story by moving back in with the humans and joining GUN. That shitty interaction you fags love so much was literally one of the last times she talks to him.
Being a 00s fag is mental illness.
>>584958458>>584959149Why does your 4chan background look AWFULLY like Krack's?https://x.com/krack932/status/2081568938694005156
>>584959816Games are shit tho
>"archie shadow and game shadow do not act the same">autistic screeching
>>584960134Are you blind?
>>584959816I am upset the convo about the games ended. Its unfortunate
>>584960078>>584959998I'll get along with Archie fags under one rule. They have to treat the game characters with their personalities from the games>what gamesAny game, even Lost World is better than Archie. I don't want to hear about Tails seething at Sonic over girl troubles ever again. Fuck Archie.
>>584960134>>584959816>>584960494>>584960552Bro what the fuck are you doing
>>584955027>>584955167>>584955171What a silly way to start an argument.
>>584960552Go fuck yourself, dude. Either focus on the conversations you want to have or fuck off. No one needs to bend to your weird ass expectations.
>>584960767>weird ass expectations>actually talk about Sonic when you want to talk about Sonic's character
>>584960028How come?
This has to be some of the most obvious falseflagging or actual unironica meltdown I ever seen in my life.That or this is an actual bot activated through some weird way, probably with AI image scanning which began after >>584955579.
>This General
>>584960234Im using the default one. Schizo.
>>584955579What makes you think Shadow would marry this literal evil clone?
Yes, archie is better than most sonic games, why do you ask
Half of the retardation in this thread could easily be resolved if you guys busted to some random Slickehedge art or whatever other shit you pretend not to fap to before posting
Modern Sonic is shit
>>584961097Like we said. Archie fags don't like the games. You say it yourselves, then you get mad when people point this out. You like how Archie wrote the characters more than the games. You like Archie story structure more than the games. You like Archie. You don't like the games. You like Archie Sonic. You don't like Sonic.
>>584961030This is not by any means a default inbuilt theme into 4chan. This is obviously a custom theme's color palette which is eerie similar to a certain retarded fujo.https://x.com/krack932/status/2033745678979977434
>>584960552>Lost WorldNo, you don’t get to use games that are also OOC as a reference. If you’re gonna whine like a fag about Archie because it’s OOC, you have to do the same for EVERYTHING that’s OOC, including the games that are (and there ARE games that are)
>>584961228Yes don't see anything wrong being said, problem is that Sonic is more than just games, and i do like this core
>>584959816>We were having a great discussionNot really, we were just shitting on 1 faggot for being shit at SA2.
Anime lost Japan lost
>>584961316Archie fags think they have the authority to call the games OOC
Testing, hope Hope HOPE Shadow shadow SHADOW archie Archie ARCHIE
>>584961429I’m not an Archiefag
>>584961349SA2 is bad.
>>584961429You can be an archie fan and know which games don't potray game characters well, its not difficult
>>584961567>You can be an archie fan and know which games don't potray game characters well, its not difficultBullshit. If you're an Archie fan then you specifically are a fan of things that are OOC
>>584961643I'm a fan of a side media that does different things
>>584961643It is possible to enjoy ooc things while recognizing that they are ooc
>>584961446>conflict bomb
>>584961504Not the Pumpkin Hill I'd die on personally
>>584961838Where did they got the strength to do that
>>584961838
Archiefags got btfo again
>>584958760In the restroom?
>>584961961Wanting to fuck Hedgehogs gives you power
>"noooo maria isn't for spankings" say the naysayersIf not for spanking, why butt good?
What was Sonic Team thinking when they made the Colors, Forces, and Frontiers collection? Nobody asked for it. Sonic Team is willing to throw away time and money to make that collection but not an Adventure 1 & 2 and Heroes collection?
I dug the archive for that just in time for you to suddenly stop ranting?
>>584962242tis a mystery
You can tell Archiefags get legitimately angry when their comic is called OOC and non-canon. You can feel the emotional frustration in their replies.
>>584962452Archie is literally OOC and non canon. Why do they get offended by this?
>>584962357I already said the animation wasn't the problem. I just don't want to see Shadow actually changed to match Archie.
LMAO ITS REALLY YOU
>>584962532Because they grew up thinking that crap was canon and represented the brand. They will seethe about this to their dying day (which should be soon since a lot of them are old af).
>>584962685Stop being a schizo
Archie fags just tried to call the GAMES ooc.
Sonic Team is completely out of touch with their own fans. They didn't even add in the Riders outfits and hoverboards into Crossworlds
>>584961838Hopecuckolds spent a few days claiming Hope was the perfect Maria substitute until Penders came in and dropped a tactical nuke in the shape of a book and Hopecuckolds dispersed like roaches.
>>584962984What are the mathematical odds that Ken Penders writes a book that spells out that Shadow and Hope were never going to be friends just a week after the Hope arguments?
>>584962861Not an archiefag, some games are indeed ooc. That chip on your shoulder is way too big
>>584962861They did that when their comic was still going, genuinely believing their garbage was where the "real" Sonic was at. Now they're seen as Sonic-Name-Only. Must suck being them.
Dude you're talking to yourself, snap it out
>>584963164What games are OOC?
sonamy requires sonic to act ooc
00s slop is not the real Sonic.The real Sonic gets good reviews.
>>584963289Fuck off
>>584963281Most of them after 06
>>584960965inaccurate, those clowns actually look cool fighting
>>584963346sega shareholder...
Remember when Kenny Penny ended his script with Sonic realizing he's the Wind, forgetting about Sally and their erased children, and ran after the Egg Carrier with Tails to go on an adventure?
>>584962173I SWEAR ITS PIGEON THEYRE FEEDING ME
>>584963412sonamy is literally ooc. it's the most ooc among sonic ships because amy was specifically designed to never be with sonic despite her crush. even the most ooc comics understood this since their dynamic was copied from the most IC gamessee >>584963516>Sonic be like: marriage? no way!
>create perfect maria clone>shadow isn't interested in her because she isn't maria >sonic realizes he was never about married life He's supposed to be the bad Archie writer?
>>584963516I refuse to believe Ken Penders actually came up with this in the arly 2000s. This sounds like something someone who hates Archie would come up with to dunk on it.
>>584963668Blaze seems like she's had a long day here
>>584963616>was the guy who practically built Archie Sonic's identity >but was also the man who contributed to destroying it in the endIt's like a dramatic play with this guy.
I won a cool hellokitty thing from a bag of puffs.hellokitty for boys
>>584963794Penders is actually a horrible person for this. If he left well alone he would have a legacy in the Sonic franchise. Instead he spent the last 20 years destroying everything that connected him to Sonic
>>584963732>>584963794You only think so because you see archie as a shipping comic. archie's shipping centered content only made up 6% of overall Archie
>>584963516>Penders knew Sonails was always the endgame
>>584963516He just saw Shrek 4ever and pretended he came up with it first >>584963997I'll admit I'm not an Archie fan. So you should explain this to me. if he actually wrote that in the comic, wouldn't it be a huge spit in the face to all the fans who followed the story for years?
>>584963732It's real because it was hinted in the old issues before he left.Also:>Sally immediately protects Shadow the moment she meets him.>Sonic almost breaks his hand when punches Shadow's stronger and more MASCULINE body (same issue where he also tells Shadow he needs a girlfriend btw)
Ƙrack raped your brain
>>584963785She just wants her rabbit.
Thread for obese dogfuckers
Sonic games made after SA2 are Sonic in name only
>>584964131Is this a fetish for Penders?
>>584963997>archie's shipping centered content only made up 6% of overall ArchieNow this is a complete lie.
>>584964174Can you be either or, or you have to be both?
>>584964121>if he actually wrote that in the comic, wouldn't it be a huge spit in the face to all the fans who followed the story for years?It would be for those who were invested in sonally. and I can feel for them. but that era of archie was like that anyways. they made sally slap sonic live on air. >>584964242Not counting any of the character mini-series. 24 shipping centered issues out of 384 books including sonic universe and reboot archie. = 6%. you may still find flirting outside those books but it's very limited and can be easily ignored
>>584964131It's kind of uncomfortable going back to 2000s Archie, reading the issues, and noticing that Penders wasn't fucking lying. This is the direction he would have taken the book if we never got Ian. It suddenly shifts back to regular story telling when Ian joins.
>>584964224>SA2*s3&k
>>584963610>amy was specifically designed to never be with sonic despite her crushWait and see what Movie 4 has to say about that. The franchise is now following the movies
If you prefer game shadow archiefags will have a mental breakdown over you every day
I'm about to close the whiteboard. I don't have an account on the booru and I don't know if I can make one, so I won't be able to post it there. I have saved both the png and psd though, someone else can add it later
>>584964525we have been through this shit already. where the fuck do you think 2 worlds came from? and iizuka said he is more involved with third party slop (not idw. it doesnt matter lol) and gives guidance on how to portray the characters right so it's not a free-for-all. you're not getting SHIT
Penders AND Ian both get overly blamed for romance stuff when they are the first people to start dismantling it. Ian literally writes Sally realizing she can never have Sonic in an issue where Amy says "Sonic is the wind"
>>584964705Don't fall for Ian Flynn's lies. He acts like he's above shipping but he's not
>>584964705Are you confusing it with ACO lmao
>>584964443And the Hope being a clone thing wasn't a lie either. An issue had Colin call her his stepdaughter out of nowhere, which confused fans for years.
>penders and ian both write like JP purists trying to destroy archie at least once eachwhat the fuck
>>584964705>>584964809>>584964842>>584964898You're getting completely schizophrenic now
>>584964683Paramount doesn't give one hoot what Takashi Iizuka has to say about Sonic and Amy's relationship and the fans don't either. Why doesn't Takashi Iizuka needs to maintain the integrity of the characters and the franchise instead of trying to dictate whether Sonic can have a girlfriend or not
Not so fast sthg! You see you just activated my trap card "Autistic Chimp out" This card cause all anons in the general to drop 30 IQ points and mindless attack each other for one turn. --stock footage of background OCs gasping in surprise--But I'm not done yet, I also flip summon my face done monster card "Namefag bot synthesizer" which has the effect of mimicking any namfag currently in the thread and false flagging all their posts posts. --more stock footage of background OCs gasping in surprise...again--and finally I play my last face down spell card multiple and combined it with "Namefag bot synthesizer" to endlessly replicate it until there are more bots in this thread then actual posters. Your move anon, just try and wave through all the schizophrenia if you can.
>>584964842Just like Fowler, Penders was also starting to shove GUN into everything
>>584776202Here's the full whiteboard!
>>584964986Why was my post >>584964842 included? That's literally what happened.
>>584964939
>>584965040Thanks for hosting, sorry for fucking up Amy.
>>584965040this looks like shit
>>584963346Oh word?
>>584964986I don't know what I did...
>>584964705Ian was forced to since he was told Sonally couldn't happen. You're all lucky it was done in the reboot, because if it wasn't done, you'd be hearing all that in the old universe?
>>584965054Because you're replying to a obvious troll confusing it with a fancomic.
>>584965097>le dijiste enanoYou called him a dwarf
>>584965040Looks great! I like the marine(s)
>>584965040Roads will never ever improve, what an autistic failure
>>584962360Damn brat.
>>584965221What?
>>584965115Your Amy will in the hidden layer!I was surprised when I zoomed out and it wasn't there lol
Guys remember Return to Little Planet?We should watch it again.
>>584965221I thought Archie Sonic restored was based on Ian's writing...
>>584965401It suuucked. The whiteboard is not the place for experimenting, will practice some more before I participate next week.>>584965040God, that Honey is so good.The new drawfag is so sick.
>>584965001You and your fans are worse than Ian and Penders>Penders: How do I approach Sonic's character?>Sega: Sonic is cool>Penders: That's it?>Sega: yes. that's it>Ian: I got information that Sonic is the wind. I will put this in Archie somehowYou are worse than the writers of the comic you keep seething about daily for being ooc. turns out you are butt hurt ass blasted btfod schizophrenic retard because it was this ship and not that ship.
>>584965394Amy saying Sonic is the wind is from Archie Sonic restored, not the official Archie Sonic. It's a Sonamybestie troll you were replying to.>>584965513It's not official you retard. Next time stop replying to everything you see.
>>584965548Takashi Iizuka needs to focus on the things that matter, like stopping Ian Flynn and SOA from completely stripping Amy of her real personality, instead of trying to dictate if Sonic and Amy can be a couple or not
>>584965401>>584965535The failed Amy. Don't know what happened, guess I got tired after the comic.I just haven't drawn asses all that much.
>>584964842>An issue had Colin call her his stepdaughter out of nowhere, which confused fans for years.
>>584965606The post I replied to didn't even mention Sonamy... are you retarded? Actually follow the reply chain.
>>584965548You mean to tell me Penders decided to watch a JP purist's youtube video tearing into his own fucking work
>>584965879Damn, you're sad to watch, Ken.
>>584965774Actually, yeah, I am, I thought you replied to 584964705 which is the Sonamybestie troll I was mentioning, sorry.
>>584965742Butts are good regardless.
>>584965742This is solid garbage
>>584965956nah, a sad ass is like, negative 3 asses, you don't want a hank hill ass.>>584966016yep!
>>584965698>things that matter like [third rate character > power gap > amy]
>>584965372If you're not autistic you don't belong here btw.
>bestieDuojeetism
>>584965698Are you a bot? Nothing you said had any relevance to it.
JonTron came back two weeks ago and nobody told me....Why?
>>584966157Cause this is a Sonic thread sir.
He's so caught up in bestieshitting himself that he's not even taking the time to insult the whiteboard this week. He doesn't even follow /sthg/ tradition anymore.>>584966157>JonTronI doubt he's very well liked here.
>duofag out of nowhereSad!
>>584966258That hasn't stopped you guys from telling me other non-sonic things before. Like the best bench to sit at.
>>584965040Metstli and Honey look nice. Marine is funny.
>>584966157Because this isn't the JonTron general. But yes, he made a new video and also started a let's play channel with Internet Historian, I think on or within the same day.
If you don't worship archie here they send you death threats
>>584966480Those things must have been cooler and more interesting than Jontron
>>584966587crack is more legitimate than a crackship like sonamy
>>584966720Sonsmy mindbroke you
>>584966059do you not know how to count?
Literally impossible for Ian to write the metaphor beforre IDW because he didn't fucking know it yet
I think the bots here are starting to glitch out. I'm seeing more typos than usual.
>>584966865Bots wouldn't typo at all fucking retard
>>584966842the restored comic never mentioned "wind". it described sonic using other means
>>584966842Come on anon, anyone who's played the games would know it
>>584966912Amy on the second to last page literally says "Sonic is free, like the wind". I know for a fact Ian didn't know about that phrase until he started working on IDW
>>584967007maybe he did know. or maybe it's something archie sonic online team inserted themselves
makes you angry
>>584967219ooc
>>584967219ooc. date your waifu yourself
>>584967178>>584965221These cannot be true simultaniously. Either Ian already knew the wind metaphor and was using it to be the capstone end of Sonally, or the Sonic fan writer came up with it and added it to the restored issue to make it more like the games
>>584967260>>584967334
I love the Sonic series. I love playing Sonic games. I love the characters and the stories. I love discussing this with fellow Sonic fans :)
Penders path: the wind kills shippingIan path: the wind kills shippingBollers path: Sonamy?
>>584967783scribbles?
>>584967789>the guy who wrote the slapwhy are amybesties like this?
>>584967862No, but he's great too, I'm glad there are fellow Sonic fans to enjoy Sonic with!
>>584967460The latter.
>>584967895Why are you making everything about sonamy, schizo?
>>584967895duojeet post
I am telling you it's literally impossible for Ian to have thought of "Sonic is free like the wind" in 2015.
>>584968040because the post im replying to was relevant to sonamy?>>584968062duo is not here. it's I, solo
