Stay a While and Listen Edition>Season 12: Season of Slaughterhttps://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244648/become-the-butcher-in-season-of-slaughter>Patch Notes:https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244466/diablo-iv-patch-notes>Resources for builds:https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4https://maxroll.gg/d4https://d4builds.gghttps://diablo4.gg/>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):https://helltides.com/>Trade:https://diablo.trade/>Codex:https://diablo4.cc/Previously in the Sanctuary: >>2243491
haven't played in days. need to finish the journey but the butcher shit is gay
>>2307632>betaThat was a completely different game back then. For some reason they thought ultra slow pace would work long term for the game. It's good they turned that around and started bringing back features from D3 and PoE.Also Horn is yesterday's news bro. Shield crest is the new metric.
>>2307855filler season, it was always going to be lackluster. go figure. at least the butcher shit isn't that in your face and you can skip his sections. and hey at the very least doom skins are cool.
For posterity, the interview with Zaven about some of the upcoming changes to the game activities (and the source)https://www.buffed.de/Diablo-4-Spiel-55956/Specials/D4-Die-Playlist-fuers-Endgame-Dev-Einblicke-in-die-Kriegsplaene-von-LoH-1521367/
>>2307871based. hornfags seething about this.
Made a barb today and i got bloodied keys, i didn't get any of these on my paladin. I didn't know these existed.
>"By three they come!">almost three years later>only one has come
I am seriously considering buying this. The fact that you get a set for every single class is what is appealing.
>>2307871You can still get this unlike the horn.
>>2308236that's why nobody cares about the horn, because why bother if you can't get it. there's no appeal in that. you can still get the crest if you farm long enough, which you need to spend a fuckload of time considering abysmal drop rates. horn might as well not be in the game for how non-existent (at 0) chances are to see someone using it. I've played since launch and the only time I saw the horn was in season 1 and once in season 2.
>>2308285>>2308236you guys look at other peoples horses? to see what bling they have? interesting.the crest dropped from the secret 4 way boss battle right? does that mean the shrines are still there?
>>2308236of course, report to us once you get it :^)
I see that the seething still continues.
>>2308313I'm losing sleep over it after all this time still yes.
>>2308325as one should, over pointless pixel garbo
>>2307838I really hate how pizzard is milking the butcher to hell and back.He used to be a cool boss down in the depths and now he is like an overused meme.
do any of you have the glorious armor?
Game is PatchedExtra xp @ +35%Gift of the Tree till March 31st @ 6pm
>>2308552Which armor do you have in mind?
>>2308650Well shit. I just finished target farming all my doom coins so i probably won't log in again
This bloodstained stuff really exposes how shit most of these classes are. They don't have the damage or survivability for higher difficulties.
>>2308552yes i have all the slutmogs, if that's what you're talking about
>>2307611>>2307715Not everyone poopsocked the first week and finished.
Alright, where the fuck is the Obductide?
>>2309424horadric strongroom NMD, and the escalating sigils (boss at the end drops like 800 or so)
>>2309426I crafted 40 keys for one horadric strongroom. This isn't going to work.
>>2309464if you can get an escalating sigil, you apparently get horadric strongroom and more escalating sigil keys at the end. maybe you can try to join one idk, everyone in the party gets the key drops at the end
>>2307838Are they really removing all Passives next season?Will that be the biggest gameplay shakeup we've seen so far?
>>2309533they better not eff it up...
>>2309533noob here, what are passives? do you mean the yellow nodes that just give general benefits?
>>2309548they can add a lot of power to your build, which is why the gear that gives +to passives is sought-after in endgameit's the little diamond nodes off the skill tree that says "20% more holy and fire damage" or whatever
Why does it keep making people ask before joining my parties now? How do you just let people automatically join in the party finder?
>>2309556it's in your game settings, i think under connectivity at the bottom... "allow auto-join" or something?
>>2309572There is an option for friends but not for randoms. This only started this season for me. Very strange.
>>2309246did they ever make a pooid one
The lack of dependable obducide farm is killing my motivation to keep playing this. Before we could at least spam infernal hordes. Now we have to pray for the random key to drop and randomly have the right modifier. I literally can't progress and upgrade anything because I have no way of farming the obducite
>>2308656>Which armor do you have in mind?Glorious - see webm>>2309246>yes i have all the slutmogs, if that's what you're talking aboutIt is not, but that is very based.
>>2309889Oh, then yes. I have it.
are either of these active?>>2309891sheeeit i wonder where i can find it. i'll have to do all the quests finally. >>2309822i can run some with you, i have a bunch of strongroom sigils and escalations.
>>2309900no search for <FREN> clan :)
>>2309900FREN is the new active clan bro. Look it up!
>>2309928>>2309927sounds gay
people saying, "doing horadric strongrooms drop guaranteed escalation sigils" just isn't true. just did max attunement. no sigil lel
>>2309932you sound gay. you're not allowed in.
>>2310239im in FREN and it’s silent af :(
>>2310463Be the change you want to see fren :) Don't be a stranger!
>>2310463This is the most silent it's been desu. I usually group up with folks and do boss runs and stuff, but that never happened this season. I reckon it'll be bumpin when the expansion drops.
>>2310463i was going to log in earlier, but i guess battlenet was down for maintenance or something, so it wouldn't even let me sign in :/ >>2310706yeah i don't feel like making a new char and playing around with this old skill tree that is going to be completely changed in a months time. i know i'll be on for a good long time when expansion drops, cause i'm going to hunt all the new achievements down
>>2310463I admit I just went ahead and quickly completed BP, finished the journey and collected all weapon transmogs. I only once came out with a ascendance tribute run tbqh. I will most definitely be more active with the launch of next season for sure.
>>2310085it's the escalation dungeons that drop more escalation sigils tho
new last epoch season tomorrow and new d3 season friday. might login to both
>>2309556I just figured out why. If they don't have the expansion preordered it asks if you want to allow someone to join your party because quest progress is prevented.
i am once again asking how it's possible to kill 30 wanderers in a butcher run
I haven't played a diablo in like 20+ years. Trying to gauge if I'll even like d4 or if it'll be too easy for me. I really liked V rising, but you can only play that so much.
So there is a modifier called obducite mine but its only available in escalating nightmare sigils. What the fuck blizzard...
>>2311294Just cleared the map and still only got around 80-90 obducite. This has to be bugged.
>>2311177they keep spawning
>>2311451sure but then the run is over bc i killed too many monsters
>>2311453>sure but then the run is over bc i killed too many monstersliterally a skill issue on your part then, the wanderers respawn even where there are no other enemies.
>>2311464nah they don't.
>>2311469yeah they do. git gud
>>2311471cope no they don't meet me in the fields of hatred and say that to my face
>>2311486fite me n00b
This slaughterhouse shit or whatever is mad boring.
Has anyone managed to get the Fresh Meat achievement over 9000 killstreak? This fucking game doesn't spawn enough enemy for this shit. Can kill everything instantly but they don't give you enough to kill. Then there is the lag that fucks up the streak timer.
>>2311501yes. see previous thread.>>2292697>>2292772>>2292819>>2297378annoying as fuck when your killstreak is high and you just miss getting the cheevo, nearly screamed when i fucked up the second time.make sure to have high mobility but at the same time, not necessarily obliterate mobs too quickly, and turn crossplay off.
>>2311519when i started out trying for this, i got to a killstreak of 8,673 and was so excited that it was the closest i had come to the 9,000 mark --and then helltide abruptly ended and everything despawned, leaving me with my limp killstreak in my hands and no title. yeah i was a little mad. i had to turn the game off and walk away for a while...
When will the d2 xpac go on sale?
>>2311453when the timer runs down and you kill the group of wanderers, you can still go around the map and clear the rest of the wanderers. you don't have to immediately portal out.
do i need to run bloodsoaked bosses to get shit like this? i've never seen a 3x passives amulet ever.
oops lol
>>2311961you can try undercity with the legendaries tribute and pay 50 mil for a chance for passives: results may vary. also you can try gambling for amulets. they do pop up from time to time.
>>2311519Okay I did it. After turning crossplay off I could solo blood maiden. I think she summons 1000 enemy each time. It was pretty easy after that. Problem was all these npc's running around stealing kills.
>>2312312Its ironic that this open world multiplayer game prefers the player to play solo.
>>2312312I did it here if anyone cares.
>>2312336And on which build, Anon?
>>2312344Dance of knives poison trap rogue. Rogue can use ubracrux to keep the killstreak going.
>>2311961An amulet like that is rarer than mythics. Just gotta keep farming and hoping it drops.
>>2311496>slaughterhouseThey were helpful very early in penitent difficulty to farm the aspects for my build but yeah they are pretty much useless after that. I salvage them instantly.
anyone played the new last epoch season yet?
>>2312312Good job!!>>2311961>>2312550i will keep trying to find them, thanks for the info!
>>2312294thanks i shall try this!
I hate seeing this pet. It's so ugly looking
>>2313130like lookin in the mirror huh KEK gottem
>>2313130what is THAT? gross!
im not the only one who does this, right?
d3 new season looks dead af thanks to last sleepoch
>>2313284yeah but the clutter does cap out at a certain point and then new stuff will stop dropping, so you have to periodically reset dungeons to erase it all
apocalypse warlock is stronger than echoing strike
>>2313420huh i never knew, i don't think i've gotten it so the stuff stops despawning, on so i can fill my bag with ancestrals.
>>2313373Literally couldntt log in for at least half a day due to some sort of serverissue thx bliz
i hate leveling in d3 so fucken much
diablo II leap attack barbarian endgame build guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBBTZcXwX4
Why does diablo 4 get boring so quickly? There is no endgame still after all of these years. After you max glyphs and get the gear you need there is nothing to use it on. The only thing left is chasing quad greater affixes. The game still feels a mile wide but an inch deep.
>>2315030I was thinking that if they at least kept the hidden title for fully completing the season journey I would still play. I need something to grind out. The fun is so fleeting in Diablo 4. Once you get to where you one shot everything in torment 4 the fun ends. There is no aspirational gear to really scale your character even further.
what's the fastest way to farm the dark age currency? i'm doing nightmare dungeons but it's still too slow
>>2315162I'd say helltides. Doom gems drop from elites and there are plenty of those there.
This season worth it if I haven't played for like a year or so? Do I paypig for the expansion for paladin?
>>2315581not really. this season is pretty shit. admittedly, it's a filler season. you should definitely paypiggy it up though. the paladin is kino and the warlock looks cool too
>>2315581No and no. Wait until it comes out to make a decision. The game is pretty much the same as a year ago. They keep changing the same things back and forth. for example>removed 4th stat but then added it back>removed toughness then added it back>removed the trials then added back a half ass version called the tower>Make new class stupid overpowered to sell it then nerf it to the ground The game lacks identity. Blizzard doesn't know what they want Diablo 4 to be.
>>2315162I got a ton farming nightmare dungeons for obducite
>>2315581Nah this season is dogshit. Might be the first one I don't complete because I'm so fucking bored
>>2316429same
Maybe we should consider a universal ARPG general. Might be enough to stick around in /vg/
>>2318008Why the push for /vg/ though? This board is fine for how each season plays out. People drop in and out, on and off and it's nicely paced.If there's need to get more people here then one could consider a thread on /v/ every once in a while.
>>2318008stupid idea. just stop posting already.
>>2318008at least things wouldn't be so fucking dead. /vm/ also has the uncanny nature of attracting chuds that usually get filtered in /vg/
>>2318089I can hear you gnashing your teeth from here. Think about your blood pressure sis...
i am playing diablo 3 at work
>>2318204based. Class?
>>2318008I would be down
>>2318008Meh, leave it.
>>2318270wizard, my beloved
Is immortal any good?
>>2318417pay to win 100%
>>2318531Gross…
>>2318533it isn't even like pay $20 to win either --the last time i checked, it was pay something like pay $400,000 USD to win, no joke
>>2318008/vg/ threads move way too quickly for diablo.
D4 should've been the over the shoulder TPP style game like the originally thought about doingNow that would be kino
finally got the free doom portal. i can finally rest
>>2319382Congrats. But did you reach over 9000 kill streak Wanderer?
>>2319384if there are no cosmetics unlock that carries over to the next season, i dont care. shrimple as
>>2319385That's fair. I also stopped caring about the title that comes with it after 5+ tries. It's not that enticing anymore. With everything unlocked and completed sans that one achievement I can await the expansion in peace.
>>2319382Same.Here's hoping LoD actually improves classes and that the story isn't as bad as VoH.
>>2319387I'm still not sure whether to get the xpac. I have been playing the base game for both S11 and S12. Might play around with the new skill trees first and wait for a discount unless they finally managed to make the endgame interesting
>>2319391>that the story isn't as bad as VoH.Hear hear. After the base campaign I set my expecations low for VoH but that plot was Mariana Trench levels of bad. My point is, it'd be very difficult for them to make LoH story worse than its predecessor. Unless they shove in more gurlbosses everywhere and the little asian gypsy girl comes back to smack another prime evil around.>>2319392I couldn't imagine to tell anybody what to do with their income so I won't tell you to get it. I did pre order it though because I wanted to play the paladin so I'm kinda stuck with LoH either way. It seems like they are (maybe) starting to course correct with introducing some endgame content. See >>2307906It's too early to call it a success, we'll have to wait until next month. I keep my fingers crossed but I'm not getting my hopes up yet so as to avoid setting myself up for disappointment.
>>2319392>unless they finally managed to make the endgame interestingIsn't the solution just going to be "warplans"? Tbh it sounds exactly like the vault in retail WoW with a few more steps and I doubt that will fix anything.Sometimes I think the only real fix is just to add in raids like wow/ffxiv. Either that or structured challenge maps, sort of like l4d/vermintide. But idk, could be in the minority here.
>>2319396if they really want people to play the game more often than 1 wk/season, they should add in weeklies/dailies with some kind of lucrative reward. that's proven to keep people signing in at least once a week/every couple days. do X thing once/week to get a guaranteed spark or something. do X thing once/day to get extra heap of obducite. also, if they added in a clan base like the den but accessible to all clannies, people could drop gear into a box for anyone to grab from, then people would maybe consider making another class or build from whatever extra thingies they find in there = play for longer. add some kind of resource thing into the clan den that is interactable: one clan member has to click a garden plot once a day, and then everyone can claim a bunch of herbs for potions or whatnot. idk, from what i see, it's not so much "muh endgame" but the actual playtime/retention that is low-hanging fruit. but ehh it is what it is for now: complete season and then leave.
I came back from launch and have two battle pass unlocks on my account, so I have a quick question about that. If I use my unlock for the 1,000 plat version, would I be able to upgrade to the deluxe for any discounts, or would I still have to somehow pay 2,800 or so?
This season blows ass 0 motivation to play just release the expansion already
logged in and got my gilded laurels. idk if i want to grind a bunch of fuckin doom mats
>>2321743I simply treated this "season" as something I do on the side when I'm bored. Very little to do, Butcher mechanic is ok but not good enough to stand on its own as a seasonal system (something to bring as a mini-event imho). It was painfully obvious even before S12 started that it's nothing more than content mashed together before they bring out (hopefully) the big guns with the expansion.>>2322183Those are easy to get when you do lair bosses and you get to keep nice transmogs for future sessions. Not terrible overall.
>>2319387german beavis found a killstreak counting bug on spiritborn. he was getting like 3x or something the kills per monster with his evade payback build. he said he got to the 9,000 killstreak in 7 minutes. idk if you're still interested (and i'm sure blizz hasn't fixed it yet), you could try to quick make an evade sb and get the fresh meat title
>>2323082>Those are easy to get when you do lair bosses>just ran 3 lair bosses>not a single oneinteresting
>world boss i jjust fought is called "chi'khan" and it's a giant chicken
here he is
he also dropped these items form e. people in trade chat got other chicken related items
>>2323611you have to open the DOOM chest to get the transmog weapons, silly but if there isn't a chest, that's because belial is sneaking in --the DOOM chest spawns after you defeat him.
>>2324012oh yeah fren i'm sorry. i'm trying to get the mats for the doom reliquary
>>2324156ohh if you want the doom mats, you have to kill elites. i think i got most of those running helltides and NMD. i still see them pop up all the time, and i'm completely done with that reliquary. just finished the last seasonal objective tonight: kill 250 elite enemies in pvp zone ughhh what a slog. >>2323628this is the most fun event that d4 has done yet! a giant chicken boss that drops chicken weapons kekek i love it!
>>2323547Huh, I might actually give it a shot then. Thank you bro!
>>2323628That's a big cock.
big chicken boss is still active today if anyone missed it yesterday!
>>2324839How long will it be active and what level do I have to be to fight it?
I regret not buying Diablo4 when it launched but at that time, I had a shitty PC unable to play it (hardcore). And now... Too much FOMO contents have passed and I'm too much of a fomo/collection slut to buy it
Some LoH cutscene that was released not too long ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMJH8dBdfC8
>>2325225kino
>>2318008Diablo 4 is a few more bad season from going into maintenance mode and your worried about spinning a way to get it into /vg/? Be lucky the game is still getting seasons because if it continues down the path its been going it won't last the end of the year.
Well, how fun was season 12?
>login to fight chicken>have to wait for arbitrary mobile game boss timer to summon himI hate this game.
>>2325629just 40 more minutes
>>2325607slightly
>>2325552Diablo 4 is Blizzard's highest grossing game, ever. The Paladin release broke the store on December 11th, it had so many people trying to buy it. It's too much of a normie game for most anons, and it doesn't have underage-looking anime-esque avatars, so it doesn't get much discussion on 4chan. Always amazed when I come to this website and see some of the wildest takes from complete retards.
>>2325890>Diablo 4 is Blizzard's highest grossing game, ever>wow players paying $15 a month for over 20 yearsbased retard
>>2325890lollamo evenDiablo Immortal gets the same skins/theme events as Diablo 4 except Diablo Immortal gets them for free because IT makes Blizzard money unlike Diablo 4. Blizzard is an American company and American companies only care about short term profits not long term. Yes Diablo 4 MIGHT of sold a decent amount of expansions but they care WAY MORE about how many skins sell between those expansions and when seasons launch broken HALF the time and shit the other HALF people aren't going to show up and or stick around to buy skins. The degree that seasons/classes launch broken in this game is fucking criminal and is ultimately whats going to kill this game before the end of the year.
>>2325890>>2325950>>2327085And never forget that this game has over 100 plus uniques and actually had build diversity but now everyone has to play the same 1-2 builds per class and this is because with the launch of the LAST expansion they bricked 90% of all existing uniques with the stat squish (that did literally nothing but make the game worse) and ALL of those uniques are still bricked to this very day.
>>2327092>D4 restricts top content to the shopI'm genuinely baffled by that. At what point did they go "oh yeah we need good to best looking cosmetics relegated to being shop exclusive content". Really, considering what D:I is pulling, especially before D4 launch, this would be a no-brainer to get people to buy your game with even more shit.Unless, and it's a huge stretch from me, they can't or won't cannibalize their games by applying the same strategy. Either that or they are completely oblivious to what makes people tick.
>>2327097They don't even play their own game anon. The one time they showed someone playing it during one of their sit downs it was a fat troon on a bis barb on normal difficulty auto-attacking 90% of the time while dying every few packs (on normal difficulty)
>>2327097>>2327112https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-G3j00RQ1U
>>2327112>They don't even play their own game anon.>The one time they showed someone playing it during one of their sit downs it was a fat troon on a bis barb on normal difficulty auto-attacking 90% of the time while dying every few packs (on normal difficulty)I know Anon, I know I've been there when it happened sadly. Fact of the matter is those two fat cunts where supposedly ONLY dungeon designers. Not that it absolves them. On the contrary, they should fucking now how basic mechanics work to properly design levels, which shows they know fuck all about it.Thing is you have dudes like that Colin or Zaven who seem to know what they are talking about. Former more than the latter imho, but still. Yet very little comes out of that. D4 went through so many iterations that only now it may be looking better and it's only due to making it closer to D3. Which wouldn't be a bad thing if the foundations were at least solid (toughness being removed then added again for instance). Maybe it's the case of too many cooks in the kitchen. I don't really know...That entire cosmetics in D:I vs D4 debacle still boggles the mind though.
>>2327116>>2327116>99:1 dislike ratio>comments disabledHow badly were their feelings hurt lmao.
>>2328110which reminds me >proper use of "their" bros, if the expansion story changes everybody's "her" or "his" to "their" again, i'm going to punch a wall. the last expansion story sucked so much in general, but the liberally sprinkled "their" all the time in the dialogue was the icing on the cake of crap writing. "uhhhh who??" "what is even going on? who is going where? all of them??" freaking political correctness is the death of any story or game.
>>2329900we're woke now
I still want ruthless mode in d4
>>2329900Blizzard is the most woke gaming company in the industry that hasn't sunk or gotten the axe yet so yes until one of those two things happen all the writing will be woke as fuck. I mean hell just last week they announced they are adding trans events to World of Warcraft.https://www.wowhead.com/news/darkspear-dash-wows-first-official-pride-event-coming-in-patch-12-0-5-380974
Why does /vm/ attract so many election tourists?
>>2331188it's the entire site desu
logging in soon to finish grinding the doom reliquary then probably done until the expansion
got the doom portal we /done/ now unless i decide to go for that dumb kill streak
Another promo video with gameplay this time around bros:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KSBys3K1oU
so what was the inspiration behind this tattoo
>>2335470the sound design is still top notch
what's warlock like in d2? im guessing d4 warlock will be somehwat similarcan someone describe this class using other d2, d3, and base d4 classes as comparisons
I only played Fire Warlock and only reached mid-50, but the gameplay was sort of like Necro where you find a big group, you place circles on the ground, run looking for more as the circles proceed to turn them to ashes. Despite having 10k+ hours of Diablo retarded dedication, I cannot really explain its playstyle compared to other classes because I'm fixated on D2's slow movement compared to D3's sanic fast or D4's pseudo sanic fast.But I'll say in a nutshell>Run, place circles on big group, run, circle explodes, place circles on big group>Rinse and repeat
>>2337733D2 Warlock is so cool cuz he can charm 99% of any demon in the game to use as a perma pet (untill it dies). Ain't no way they will top that in D4 since quite frankly D4 has yet to top anything.
>>2337733Sorc, Necro, Paladin mixed in to one
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24266710/diablo-ii-resurrected-ptr-3-2-coming-soon
>>2336255your mom after im done with her :^)
Just installed Diablo 1, 2, 3, Immortal and 4!!!
Unfortunate.
>>2342079based
>>2335470Another gameplay (with Skovos and Warlock)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Sb0Yo8U6k
>turn off crossplay>do helltide>pc gaymurs are everywhere farming "the spot">get to 6k>ruined by faggotsI hate this game.
>>2343909skill issue
>check diablo 2>5 men and 3 womenrip
I CAN'T FUCKING BEAT BUTCHER IN DIABLO 1 AS FUCKING WIZARD
>>2342957Official Skovos map from the vid
>>2345547Am I blind, it looks smaller than Nahantu? Not that bigger automatically means more content. If anything, I imagine the isle will be packed with shit to do. Or maybe Blizz will find a way to disappoint me.
>Got the Wardrobe bug where I can't change weapon mogs and clicking anything on the outfit changes to the theme or dyes everything at the same timeBlizzard......
Finally got the title, I can stop playing until the expansion.
ya know this this the first season i never got the mythics i needed for bis
So is the DOOM / Berserk thing still going or is a blink and you miss it type of deal?I swear I am always on the verge of getting this game if not because Blizzard are turbo jews.Also let's say I would had gotten the game last month, was even realistic to start from a LVL1 to Endgame and get the skins?
>>2342957do we have skilltree leaks yet? does ney whatsherface get brutally killed in the campaign for being an absolute moron?
>>2347447DOOM just like Berserk is basically a one off. So it's very FOMO type of shit, if you don't get those when the event/collab is going you will miss out. Very jewish, sadly.
>>2347448Yeah, somebody already made it into a pic in the previous thread.
>>2347449But like, is it over?I have been asking about details and it only says it will run for a season and games treat seasons differently.Sometimes it is 3 months, sometimes a couple of weeks.Let's say I get the game at the end of the month, do I miss out? DIV was already on my radar but I wanted to see how it panned out.All l I wanted was to make a Pally, give it the Doom cosmetics and play Lord of Hatred but Blizzard is unclear about all of this. Like how much would it be in total and how long I have to get the items.I would not be surprised if it was $200, and I could *sigh fork that over but I hate doing so and missing on the Doom stuff, which is what happened one time with another game and a different crossover, and the game in question was bad (Fall Guys).
>>2347457>But like, is it over?Bersersk - yes. DOOM one is still going. Generally those collabs last for the duration of a season (so about a month or few weeks) and they're gone after.>Let's say I get the game at the end of the month, do I miss out?The current season and by extension DOOM event w/ skins end on April 27th. If you get the game after that then yeah you will miss out. The thing is, there's also some cosmetic transmogs for weapons to grind for that let you complete the set. Unless you care only for the armor stuff which is a paid cosmetic anyway you could, in theory get the game on 27th or sometime before and just grab those bundles from the store. Otherwise it'd be better to get it sooner so that you can get the most out of this Event.At the end of the day it's your money bro. And your decision!
>>2347467Dumb follow up question....is it fun?Also was newbie what do I get? I was looking at the version Battle net is selling and I thought Lord of Hatred ultimate included everything but that is for people who have the expansion. So I dunno, do I grab the bundle from Steam or Battle net?
>>2347478not that guy but I got the base game on steam sale a few months back and I enjoyed it. once your build comes online, it's pretty fast and brainless to farm the DOOM currency needed to purchase the free cosmetics. the current patch adds some fun mechanics like killstreaks letting you meathook groups of enemies together
>>2347478the game is fun yes, especially for a new player that isn't jaded and sunk hundreds of hours into the game. this season kind of sucks, but it'll still be fun for a new player. the game should get a lot better in two weeks!
LoD > D2 > D1 > VoH > RoS > D3 > D4 > Immortal
>>2347478I'd say you will get your money's worth. Like >>2347516 said, it's only after you've played for very long do you realize devs really should give stuff to do long term or short term (depending on how you look at MAU numbers and player retention). There's enough for you to do, don't worry. Especially when you're only just starting. Plus, with the expansion coming up in two weeks there's a good chance they will add some more stuff beyond what was announced. We'll see.>Also was newbie what do I get? I was looking at the version Battle net is selling and I thought Lord of Hatred ultimate included everything but that is for people who have the expansion. I got the base on Bnet before launch but I if I knew back then they'd release it on Steam I would've waited to get it there. It's just a more reliable platform imho. You can still play with people who have it on console and/or Bnet of course so it's not like it's locking you out of anything.
Should I start on hard mode if I want to replay through the D3 campaign? Normal mode is too fucking easy and braindead man
>d3 campaignprobably dude
>>2347539Cash shop shit aside, is Immortal actually bad? I assumed it was just D3 (Phone) but even more monetized.
>>2347637it's good until you hit a paywall and then you uninstall.
>>2319387>>2323547The saga has finally come to an end. I managed to do it with my pally though I did resort to a glitch. But after having tried and failed due to bullshittery I feel vindicated. I just need to nab the big chicken and I can finally rest. Also, the latency after last patch are horrendous. What the hell blizz.
>>2347478If you haven't already, wait for a sale. At worst you'll have to wait until the summer sale around July but it will be discounted around the 28th.
>start D4 for the first time>no clue what class to pickdamn. they all look boring...
>>2325629and not only do you keep playing but you choose to post too. embarassing.
Is there another campfire chat before the expansion?We're 2 weeks away from release and still silent.
You really want them to waste their time to pander to a bunch of retarded millennials than focus on ensuring the launch is stable and we don't get Error 37?
>>2350430hell yeah millennials rule
and zoomers DROOL
>no prime evil of lust
>>2350424Compared to path of exile devs who reveal the mechanics to get people hyped. Blizzard stays radio silent about their big paid expansion.
>>2347637Fair and unbiased reviewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igesRBly84https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDYLJw0Vn8
So, are we getting Baal expac, Imperius expac and then Diablo expac?
>>2350424>>2351083Its because the expansion is going to be a nothing burger just like the last one. If I had to bet money the biggest thing we will get outta the expansion is them re-working all the unique items that got bricked with the first expansion launch. Aka we paid for an expansion that bricked them and now we are paying for an expansion so they can unbrick them, its fucking rediculious. When they did the D2 & D4 anni reveal I don't even remember wtf they announced for D4 because none of it sounded good enough to remember, it was all more mediocre shit plus the warlock and after playing the D2 warlock aint no way in hell the D4 one will be anywhere close to as cool as the D2 one is.
Take me back sisters, I want to return to the abattoi->The Gauntlet hype... Nevermind...
>>2352307>anywhere close to as cool as the D2Be that as it may D2 warlock is an OP fuck and it's pretty much P2W class. I agree that they've yet to identify what they want D4 to be besides taking D3 and making work on modern hardware to look "better"
>>2352321Fuck the OP shit with the D2 Warlock, the cool factor comes from him being able to charm just about any demon in the game, the D4 Warlock will fail in comparison to this single thing. Its like say for example the D4 Warlock will be able to do the same thing? Can you even name anything youd wanna charm?
>>2352307The expansion is likely a whole load of nothing. The same old dungeons, infernal hordes, helltides but War Plans which boils down to even more drops. The drops are already shit in the game. Who cares if we get 2x the amount of shit. They haven't revealed any new endgame activities to make the gear even useful. Same old pit grinding different expansion. If they had something truly exciting they would sing songs about it for weeks leading up to the launch. They wont even show us the new skill trees because I bet it just lazy increased damage numbers.
The expansion will be good because it lets me fight crabs.
>>2352331not him but on a related note>the cool factor comes from him being able to charm just about any demon in the gamethat is cool and what not but it goes so against the rule established in the world of diablo that I can't see it as anything but a "muh OC donut steel" class that can "charm" demons and practically wield demonic powers without getting consumed by them or end up corrupted>inb4 rule of cool againit has its place but it needs to be coherent because why not bend prime evils to our will at this point? where do we draw the line?
>>2352331>Fuck the OP shit with the D2 WarlockNo my man, we can't just brush aside the fact he makes other classes null and void. That'd be like saying "oh it's cool that spiritborn/pally is OP" even though other classes suffer getting shafted due to lack of balance and let's just leave them like that with minor tweaks (which is still the case btw). And I get it, new classes gotta be OP otherwise they won't sell or feel much different to some. But there's OP and there's being outright broken, which D2 warlock simply is. But I will say this - D4 won't match these levels of power imo. That doesn't make D2R situation any better though.
>>2352360If Neyrelle has the willpower to suppress a Prime Evil why can't I dominate some mob that would otherwise be killed in 2 seconds?
>>2352387Because you are he/him and Neyrelle is she/her and girls get it done.
>>2352316>season 2for me it's season 3 even though it was hated kek
>>2352387Little asian/gypsy bitch overstayed her welcome a long time ago. I wish they could kill her off in the mos gruesome way so that there's not even a slightest possibility of her being present in the sanctuary.Fucking Cali "writing".
I think it's funny to complain about an expac ruining uniques when D2 did that and everyone sucks it off relentlessly.
>>2345608It's definitely smaller than Nahantu. But this gives them opportunity to pack it with content>Or maybe Blizz will find a way to disappoint me.Always be tentatively optimistic with them Bro. It's never a bad mindset.
>>2347719
>>2352358i love this!! my favorite zone in d3 was the tidal something-or-other with the giant crabs. i love all the nautical stuff! best d4 stronghold is the lighthouse
>>2353146People have memories of a goldfish. Go figure.
>>2353654Thenks fren
lillith is backbased
>>2354743I thought it took a long time for demons to reform after being killed? Does this only apply to the Primes?They're really gonna do Sylvanas 2.0 and make her a good guy huh
>>2354782>sylvanas 2.0yep
>>2354782yeah looks that way
>we can play as warlock>d2 retconned to always have a warlock chad help the heroes>lillith is backYep, soon demons and angels will be our pets. Humanity won.
>>2355398demonsisters..........angelbros..............
>I just need to nab the big chicken How do you even get this WB? Ive been looking at helltides tracker and it's never there. Does it replace the boss UI claims it be eg. it says ashava but it's actually the chicken but the game doesn't say that?
>>2355731meant for>>2347719
>>2355731is it even still active? it was an april fool's joke, but it did last for a number of days. eventually i'm sure it's removed.
>>2355398>Paladins can summon that asshole angel guy and the angel with tits>Necromancers get Leoric and Malthael>Warlocks get Butcher and the jobber siblings Andariel and DurielI can see it.
Wanderer, prepare for the Reckoning! Our next livestream begins on April 23, 11:00 a.m. PT and gives an in-depth look at content releasing with the Lord of Hatred expansion and upcoming seasonal updates.https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/article/24261474/tune-in-to-the-pre-launch-livestream
>>2307838I haven't really played since launch. With the new season and expansion launching in a few weeks, would it better to do the Vessel of Hatred campaign now so I can skip to Lord of Hatred when that launches on a new character?
>>2357805Yes, VoH campaign should only take 10-20 hours depending if you care about the story. I welcome you to follow the story so you can be disappointed like the rest of us on what they did to Urivar.
>>2357846kek
>>2357846>what they did to Urivar.If only this was where the list of fuckups started and ended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO3LMZIlUXk
>>2360504I am not seeing anything exciting here. War plans seem to be the same content only you follow this short path almost like completing a checklist. The skill points are increased amounts of the same boring loot.
>>2307838How long before we get hideouts in D4
Do these stupid faggots not know how spoilers work? Or reading in general?
>>2360960Would have been a nice surprise to learn about her return by playing the expansion. Oh well.
>>2360943Technically we got one with VoH. The Den with all the "mercs" in Nahantu. Shame really because it would've been neat to have your own base of operations with vendors.
>>2361234They can't do that because no one would leave their hideout. Then all of the mtx cant be advertised to you.
>Lord of Hatred isn’t even out yet...and you’re already trying to finish it
>>2361275I'm sure they'd find a way to make some aggressive marketing for cosmetics even with hideouts. That being said, I know that's the main reason we can't have such nice thing.
Hot take: how about actually giving out more cosmetics other than wings/back trophies? Such as armor set you can get via some in-game events throughout the season, kinda like those Doom weapons but make it a true set - armor + weaponry. D3 had portraits so that was another venue that could be chased here. It's hilarious That an old game like D3 did a lot of stuff right and they didn't learn from that. I'm talking communities, leaderboards, profiles to look up characters/cheevos/feats. For all the bullshit there was in D3 it's hard to deny it had some modicum of soul.
>>2360960>>2360970>company full of women and troon hacks that can only makes stories about women strong, competent, powerful, and brave & men bad, dumb, incompetent, and weakWhat the fuck did you expect? Only so many powerful women demons in the lore they can pull outta their asses.
What's wrong for bringing back Lillith? Her dad fucked over her plan, so she is fucking him over
I don't get why us killing her was even presented as something that had any affect. She's a demon. They reform in hell when they're killed. Our fuarking heroes should've entirely expected her to at least send a psychic text calling us a retard at the absolute minimum.
>>2366462From a purely lore perspective? Nothing. Demons like her respawn albeit after a long time (see Mephisto, Diablo, Baal; IIRC no demon can truly suffer perma death and all of them reform in burning hells after time). That's one of the reasons she was banished into the Void after the Sin War, to keep the bitch's claws away from the Sanctuary. Keep in mind though she's just been killed and she's already phone calling us from hell? Even if she can return such short amount of time after which she can communicate with us undermines the entire endeavor from base campaign.I guess writers would say "weeelll uhhh ackshuually you have her blood in you so you know... you can like talk to her and stuff..." but to anyone with functioning braincells that's stretching way to far.
My gut says she's not really back but in our mind rent free from the pedals shoved down our throat. If she legit already back that's a big kek but I get they want to after all the effort they put into her model and cutscenes around her.
>Don't have Diablo4>still hyper hyped for the expansionWhy am I like that? At least I play Immortal to live the hype.
>>2369195Even if she's back (semi doubt), I don't think she will be hyper important in the events because they are not crazy, they won't spoil a major event with a teaser
tyrone is coming back i reckon
>>2370062You are addicted to the ragebait writing or how the D4 team will fuck up endgame
>>2370077Based. We only need the Nephalem and we're golden.
am i the only one who is tired of all the sneak peeks and spoilers? more work on making the expansion drop bug-free, and less work on the PR, blizzard. prioritize what really matters! all this advertising doesn't mean crap if your game (and launch day) is a glitch fest
>>2370619>am i the only one who is tired of all the sneak peeks and spoilers? Nah bro, so am I. But it looks to me like their marketing works completely independently of the development team. Maybe it's wishful thinking but all those promos look like they've been prepped some time ago and scheduled to release via media outlet.
>>2370408kek
So can we expect future expansions to go like this>prime evil appear (expansion 3)>vessel of prime evil (expansion 4)>lord of prime evil (expansion 5)>Prime evil appears (expansion 6)>vessel of new prime evil (expansion 7)>Lord of prime evil ( expansion 9)Or will the game die before it gets this far?
>>2373075Given how disappointing VoH went content-wise on release, MS may not get away with that format anymore. It makes sense on paper because you're hyping up every Prime Evil with a filler expansion, but everyone can see how lackluster each filler is.Maybe the sales meet MS expectations and they continue getting away with it. Or Blizz understand the disappointment, get some budget approvals, and make each expansion content-packed consistently.Best case scenario, they do that format you mentioned and we all enjoy some good lore building, new classes, and endgame loop that fulfill our skinner box needs. Middle ground is they sever the fillers and do Expansion LoH -> LoD -> LoT -- delaying Diablo to the end KEK. Worst case MS tells the world>Wanna fight Diablo? You will -- in Diablo V!!!Making us all cucks for even getting D4.
>>2373348The "release game, now make new game QUICK and CASH IN" mindset seems to have died with Kotick and the 2010s in general due the costs. People aren't buying as many high-priced games but they love buying cheaper games or DLC so long as it's around $20-40. So if LoH does well I think we'll actually see a filler DLC, even smaller than VoH, so they can price it closer to $20-30. Probably just 1 class, 1-2 zones, and some kind of feature. And if that happens my guess is it'll be Amazon or Witchdoctor.
>>2373348>>2373412we either get filler dlc or blizzard makes some effort and hype up an angel or D3 Nephalem hero we can kill for the filler expac.
>>2373814You'll fight Baal forma de one-eyed owl and you'll LIKE it.
>>2373830>You'll fight BaalHe will be mentioned by Lorath in an off hand dialogue. Sorry! No budget for now!
>checking on forums and reddit for d4 voh discussion>you get backstabbed by a literal no-name human>the writers wanted to hype up the asian woman as the main character and not youholy fucking shit, wouldn't surprise me if voh becomes fucking hated later.
>>2373872isnt VOH already hated?
>>2373872VoH isn't exactly a fan favorite expansion and hasn't been since they released it my man. I'd say it's so bad that it even managed to stir shit up on reddit known to be sycophants for woke/modern writing. That says something.But even if it wasn't the case VoH on its own is horrible: bad pacing, horrid characters, pandering to ideologies, abysmal boss fight etc. Plus the marketing for it had some weird nig nog songs in the videos and trailers. Or maybe that was for base game? I can't rightfully recall.
Thoughts on the D4 classes?
More IGN stuff - a review this time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S6KeieSIWAand LoH launch trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S6KeieSIWA
>>2375293lol you idiot! you posted the same thing twice hahaha oh no no no no no
>>2375298kek you're right, here's the trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu1PmW-Qzxk
>>2375199They're good, except that druid needs to go on a diet.Everything changes next week though so we'll see.
>>2375199Necro could use more mobility a'la his moveset from D3, but I think that's been talked to death. I don't play druid so I can't really say anything about the class other than they should hit the gym instead of looking like some obese e-whale.>>2375311Yeah, shame how even D:I got the class correct and we get a McDonald's regular.
>>2375336she.. she looks like me
I hope there's a cool ice sorc build. I'm so sick of lightning shit
>>2375370Embargo lifted today and in one of the videos it shown the ice hydras, also chain lightning getting an ice variant
>>2375422i saw the ice hydras, looks cool
>>2375293So they actually made items stackable all the way up to 1000? Convenient but I hope it applies to all items, ingredients etc. not just the new ones.
>>2375436New unique for frozen orb
>>2375293>>2375504And it looks like uniques now have each their own charm equivalent
>>2375293>"part of the reason I am so attached to this depressing and violent world is because of the mystery, drama and unforgettable characters that occupy it."This guy can't be serious right? I unironically can't remember half of the diablo 4 characters. I can't even remember the old mans name who got possessed. I know I hate nyrelle though.
>>2375293>extremely complicated menusThis guy must be legit retarded.
I haven't played since the base gameI want to>Buy Lord of Hatred>Make a Warlock>Skip base campaign>But play the TWO expansion campaigns>See other players and not be on an empty map>But also not be in some mad rush exp explorer modeCan I do thisAnd how does this work, wouldnt I still start at level 1?
>>2376455>Buy Lord of Hatred>Make a Warlock>Skip base campaign>But play the TWO expansion campaignsYes to all these, on character creation you choose which campaign (or none at all) that you will start playing at. No idea if you can go back (I've never tried, I'd assume no) but you can keep progressing.>See other players and not be on an empty mapWith 12 torment levels lol fuck if I know.>But also not be in some mad rush exp explorer modeIf you choose campaign then you'll at least have a set of goals but your endgame would be the same.>And how does this work, wouldnt I still start at level 1?Yes, unless you play an existing character.
>>2375293I'm a bit concerned as to War plans being solo oriented. Normally I wouldn't mind if it's optional to play alone, but from what that journo said you are discouraged from partying up with friends - a party leader gets all his rewards upon successful WP completion but anyone else in the party is given only a fraction of those rewards unless their WP are exactly the same.I just don't get the designers' intention here. I really hope it's going to get redone before next week. Like I said, I'd be fine if you could do War Plans either solo or in party without making concessions but this is a big oversight otherwise.
>>2376455You can pick where you want to start in the story, or skip it entirely.The way the game works you'll see people around towns and occasionally bump into people in the overworld, but there's times where it seems you're the only person in one zone. World bosses and legion events are always populated, especially with crossplay turned on.You'll start at level 1 and everything scales with you. Just take your time and enjoy the story, there isn't a need to rush as seasons last a few months typically.
well. Found the leaked story. >Deckard cain didn't die - he was shrunk and injected into human tyrael's blood. >Mephisto assembles a massive army of worshippers with the body of akarat>Tyrael has cancer because of the shrunken temples in his blood that an insane deckard cain built>you have to shrink down in the spirit realm to go into tyrael's blood to kill cain>tyrael becomes the new church leader and becomes a half angel half human, fulfilling inarius' shoes>lilith is also living in your blood though, if you kill mephisto, then she will reincarnate and mephisto will be dead forever>you go back into the spirit realm to shrink yourself and go into your own blood>you fight lilith and kill her forever, and confront mephisto, who has also shrunken himself inside Akarat's body>you go into akarat and kill mephisto, a twist reveals that cain was mephisto the entire time
>>2377970This sounds so stupid I actually believe it.
This is probably a dumb question but are we getting a new season and battlepass at launch?
>>2378114Yes, very likely we'll find out more about it in the campfire chat tomorrow.
>>2378111I made it sound stupid, but the blood is what drives the possession, the traitor from last expansion is who helps you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZTflcupvtwKek at the little asian brat.
>>2378851>UnlistedHow the fuck did you find this shit?
what class should I start LoH as?
>>2379454warlock
>>2378851did she died?
>>2379613she better be dead and not just as another dream sequence
>>2377431>>2376539is it always recommended to do Season character
>>2378851>>2379613>>2379639>neyrelle is deadAm I dreaming? Are they actually doing the one thing necessary to save this dogshit story? I didn't think nublizzard had the balls to do it. Guess we'll see if it's an asspull fakeout soon enough.
>make fat black druid woman who dont need no man for the campaign>mama bear vibes throughout the game>that wasnt that bad>neyrelle wanders off with a satanic wmd>’nah she wouldn’t want us to go after he’The game is fun but the story is so fuckin weird and all over the place with the tone
I read there is a skill tree reveal and other information tomorrow at 11 am PST.
>>2380129https://www.twitch.tv/diabloyou get a cosmetic if you watch for one hour :O
>>2380146I was already spoiled. The new skill trees are just 15 points into a main skill and flat damage increases in the form of elements for branching paths. There is still not much depth to it.
>>2379454Warlock
>>2380209so, that is probably useless for high torment?It all depends on the unique item combination still?
>>2380209reddit says the whole tree is reworked (no citation)
>>2379890>musical sting as neyrelle jolts awake in bed>phew it's just a dream
>>2378851>character so bad it rustles feathers everywhere on the Internet>nooo you will like her!!!!>shape her to be the main character of the series>further pushback ensues>kill off her unceremoniously in a cutsceneGlorious. I hated the bitch. I hope whoever's writer's pet she was got her into some rehab after the entire backlash and she understood the error of her ways.>>2379890>Are they actually doing the one thing necessary to save this dogshit story?They have a long way story wise to save it but this is definitely a big step in the right direction.
>>2380351what was the story again?> Lilith is running wild> a wanderer gets infected with her AIDS flowers> some how mephisto is in a soul stone> that kid gets stabbed with it> yenel wants to revive her mom> yenel carries the soul stone> rathma's story is revealed> yenel still carries the soul stone> akarat story is revealed> mephisto is now akaratnow mephisto and lilith kill sanctuary?
>>2380404no it was(base game)>you get AIDS>lorath says "stop the demons">you travel the world failing 2 times to stop her>the first time was to talk with rathma, he's murdered by inarius>the second was with donan, mostly failed but you got a thrift store soulstone>then a lot of boring filler following elias (this is where they "build" neyrelle's "character")>you stop his phylactery or whatever and kill him>lorath asks a tree where lilith is, turns out everyone in the world already knows>inarius sends his jobbers into Hell, they all job>you get to Mephisto's egg>neyrelle steals the previous egg>lilith jobs to you(VoH)>neyrelle takes the egg-in-stone to Brazil>her plan is to sit on a slab chanting until she jobs to Mephisto>you, the Player, let a random mob stab you in the back and throw you in the river>a brazillian grandpa saves you and follows you around>then a lot of boring filler follows as you convince neyrelle to follow you>she follows you around but is still holding the mephistoegg (doing this causes some disaster every few minutes, destroying things grandpa loves)>turns out akarat planned everything, including telling grandpa to save you>all so you can put mephistoegg in limbo (doing this will cause a disaster in a billion years or something)>at the very end grandpa snaps and makes a deal with Mephisto>Mephisto says he will spare Brazil for the egg, he gets the egg>akarat poofs into nothing, expansion ends, but neyrelle is *determined* :)
>>2380443I thought grandpa put the egg in akarat.The story sucks. Lilith already opened the gate to hell and inarius died with rathma. Now sanctuary is doomed, in light of mephisto has free reign with lilith now.
>>2380450>I thought grandpa put the egg in akaratHe did until he didn't.
any info on whether or not the loot filter automatically salvages filtered items (good) or just hides them (bad)?
>>2379848I'd say yes. If you're playing the campaign then the seasonal content won't start until the story is finished.>>2380129Hard to say if there will be or not. They haven't really got their own online skill tree viewer, so unless they build one just for this idk.>>2380345It is. Removed all passives, including key passives. All choices are now based on the connected skill rather than just +stats. Also some that are more transformative, like picrel.>>2380730It just hides items.
>>2380816I forgot to also mention some of the key passives are returning as uniques.Picrel is Spiritborn's key passive Adaptive Stances.
New mythic sword
>>2381198Bretty good
>>2381198thats Tyrael's mf sword goddam
>>2381198fuck yeah ingeom
>>2381303MEGA GIGA TURBO SPOILER INSIDE OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK ANON
25 mins until the dev stream, kind of surprised they didn't use a cosmetic drop to get people to watch
>>2381331>asking him how is heOur characters knows him now? I know I'm nitpicking but I find it weird for our not-nephalem to ask him those kind of questions.
>>2381369There are 2
>>2381369they did
>>2381377>>2381378Hivemind.
>>2381331wtf where did you get this
>>2381383Just like with unlisted videos - devs are lurking.
Damn, German Beavis really went all method for this presentation
That video was pretty good. We will see how it plays out in the expansion. also no trannies yet.
>>2381494far right looks like a fag
im not sold on war plans yet>we have very little endgame activities>our new endgame activity in this expansion is combining our current endgame activities togetheri hope the talents are big
>>2381510lol,
This dude gained like 80 pounds
Mythic affix on a charm, basically RoRG
>>2381331holy fuckin based
>>2381529wow they really leaked the boss of the expansion just like that huh?
not playing druid
>Community challengeGood initiative. At least that gives extra shit to grind towards.
stream didn't even last an hour
>>2381593You can still put it on in the background and it should count towards completion, I think.
>>2381593Don't worry, the real stream starts on May 7th
was a pretty solid showing, really highlights how dogshit the first expansion was though
>>2381621Are they finally announcing they're fixing their servers?
>official d4 stream changes to this guyMan twitch is some pure unfiltered cancer.
>>2381621>path of incilei shiggy
>>2381640They had an optimization patch two seasons ago in 0.4. The servers are better.
>bosses share a keyfucking finally
Blog is uphttps://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24267729/prepare-for-the-reckoning-lord-of-hatred-draws-near
>>2381648they hosted him since he's an omegashill
>>2381658Instead of being utterly shit they're just shit now then. That's an improvement I suppose.
So is there no season theme?
>>2381682>This season includes rewards and features such as Season Rank, Season Blessings, and the return of the Tower and Leaderboards Beta, but does not introduce a season-specific story, theme, or gameplay elements.
>>2381682Oh yeah, I forgot about that. They showed a season journey though.
>incense and elixirs kil
>>2381706They didn't really add anything to the game anyway.
>releasing a day earlydamn i'll be late by about 5 hours bc work :(>>2381746yeah it's a good thing imo
Where was our tranny aislyn?
>>2381529Yeah, he need to cut back on the cheeseburgers.
>>2381906
>>2381906>>2381917kek
>Druid is still fatGuess I'm staying a spiritborn main
>>2381529>>2381906>>2381917>work at blizzard and stress eat>surrounded by troons and jeets>forced to work with shit AI>everything you read about your game and or company is negative and or bitching>everyone you know in the industry is getting fired left and right and or replaced by AI>know its just a matter of time until your time is up and once its up you won't be able to even find a job in the field you worked so hard to get intoBros future is set, at least the burgers will be free once hes forced to work at Mcdonald's
are you pre-downloading the updoot reddit thanks for the upvote
>>2381308We got us a D3 enjoyer in the chat, poggies
I've been avoiding previews and I dont have D2 remasterDoes Warlock have a melee build or is it pure caster? And by melee build, I dont mean melee range spells like Wizard had some close range meme in D3, I mean actually swinging the weaponIf it doesnt, should I just play Spiritborn? Didnt play VoH
I haven't played this game since season 3. I played it quite a bit though, was even in the early endgame alpha. Heard they were finally changing the skill "tree". tl;dr? Is it an actual skill tree now or did they just swap things around and everything plays the same anyways. I don't hate D4, but I found the skills and builds and classes extremely underwhelming and boring.
>>2383421Warlock in D2 levitates their weapon and whips it around
>>2383465We don't know yet. There are truly a ton of big changes in Lord of Hatred that it will be difficult to tell if things are better or worse. I am leaning on the side of things being better. There are more ways to scale damage further with the horadric cube and talismans. The bigger question is if the endgame has improved. Right now the activities you complete in the early and mid game are the same activities you complete in the endgame.
>>2383465Given you haven't played since Season 3, it wouldn't kill you to wait how things go and buy it on a sale if you're fillin' it brother. By the time it goes on sale who knows, maybe you find something better to do.
ngl the warlock meta hellfire builds look fun as fuckand as a huge shouts/auras fag i very much appreciate the sigils abilitiesmight actually do a warlock run first instead of a paladin/barb
>>2384121I've been playing Pally exclusively since they let people pay pig for early access and I think I'll be doing a Warlock run first and then Paladin. Even though the concept of Warlock is retarded in Diablo world/lore etc.But we'll see how other classes will benefit from these changes.>>2383465Yeah, the tree is getting a gargantuan overhaul. Legendary aspects now become modifiers for skill nodes. You can transfigure unique items into charms that will grant you their aspects without actually equipping them in the item slot. Check out the blogpost if you're interested in more than tl;dr:https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24267729/prepare-for-the-reckoning-lord-of-hatred-draws-near#Features
>>2383421Look at the general lock skillset >>2347451It's not looking similar to D2's lock and your "melee" build seems like a melee caster with demonform.If you want to be COOL you will just have to play MELEE NECRO.
>>2384140>But we'll see how other classes will benefit from these changes.God I hope so. Out of boredom I picked up Grim Dawn and despite the jank it is lovely how with the right items you can genuinely make most builds work well whereas right now you're playing a completely different game if you try a B tier build vs. an S. And I'd like that to to be fixed for more than 2 fucking classes.
>>2384140how is it retarded? genuinely asking no flamei view it as just the opposite of paladin, where paladin takes inspiration from the high heavens and warlock from the burning hells
>>2384337>i view it as just the opposite of paladin, where paladin takes inspiration from the high heavens and warlock from the burning hellsYeah, I get where they were coming from with the whole ying-yang dynamic these two classes have going on. I probably came off strong but dabbling in forces of hell to any extent much less to the point of exerting control over demons has been a cautionary tale in Diablo. There are multiple examples in the lore: Leoric, Archbishjop Lazarus (who willingly served Diablo), Aiden (the lone wanderer although he did put Diablo's soulstone in himself), Tal Rasha (see Aiden), lots of priests of zakarum that got corrupted by Mephisto back in the day etc. You even have an angel Izual that became a fallen angel serving hell after getting tortured by Prime Evils. And then we have Warlock (D2 to D4) who seemingly wields complete control over demons he summons without showing any signs of corruption - I get that that'd require some 5D chess-tier mechanics to pull off. He looks cool and all and I will play him but it's very far fetched he'd be around long enough to stave off influence of his powers. If we go by "muh lore" ofc.With Paladin it's a tad different imo, because High Heavens never did seek to dominate humanity and powers of light never showed to have been corruptive in nature. They did vote on humanity's fate after the war of sin but at the and majority of them genuinely believed in humanity and wished to see it thrive. With hell at best we can say Lilith was chaotic neutral.I suppose what I'm getting at is D4 writers completely forgot or didn't really bother with getting to know the history of the plot/characters/classes they were trying to create within it. For instance Neyrelle held Meph's soulstone and she got off scott free pretty much, our own characters has Lilith's aids or sth and we seem to be doing fine despite other people becoming feral from it at some point in base game.
>Diablo>Humans vs Demons vs AngelsWe need the Undead as a faction and Diablo 4 finally becomes kino.
PSA: You can already download the pre-release content lads.
>>2384566>Undead >undead pirates>or just piratesWould be kino. Though I'd take additional faction if done right any day.
does everyone in this thead have LOH purchased? im still on the base game
which class has the lewdest armor
>>2384936slutborn for sure
>>2384498>exerting control over demons has been a cautionary tale in Diablo>without showing any signs of corruptionoh yeah i see where youre coming fromnice write up
>new expansion campaign is around 10 hoursew
>>2385040>playing arpgs for story content
uhhhh minion bros?>mfw to many gigaminion necros show up to a world boss and crash the game
>>2385040>trusting journalists
>play Wizard in Diablo 1 >have to constantly teleport to town to restock mana potionsfuck this ass gameplay loop
>>2384598Thx Anon!
>>2385002Thanks. Sorry for my autism but it's driven by years of reading Diablo books and it kicked in. Like I said though, class looks cool. I like it. But I think the setup for it should've been different with the same end result - overall mayhem.
Zaven (Associate Game Director) and Art Peshkov (Lead Systems Designer) both gave interviews to Rhykker and our Resident Diabloomer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yu2EagdRZYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKrBtYJeFY4
I'm replaying through D3 (for no reason) after not touching it for like 12 years and you know what I realized?There is ALOT of dialog here. Now I know and remember the story got memed on a lot and I agree, but the effort put in here was tremendous. (You)r character has back and forths with like everyone. Your character comments on all the NPC infodumps, even with random ass no-names. There are even a couple of unique interactions depending on whether you have templar/scound/enchantress with youMeanwhile the D4 hero is basically silent in the base game based on what i remember. Does this change at all in VoH and beyond?
>>2386524>the effort put in here was tremendousThere was definitely good amount of soul in D3, if only for how much your character interacted with the world. But also you had some level of connection with various NPCs after many playthroughs (like in D2) which made you feel like you're fighting for something. In D4 I couldn't tell you the names of most story characters, much less town vendors. Also I loved how my character would comment on killstreaks in D3. Small things like that add to world building.>Does this change at all in VoH and beyond?Not really, but I might not remember well having played it only once. I think what little dialogue from us there is is only ever heard in cutscenes.
>>2386524>Does this change at all in VoH and beyond?VoH? No, although characters have a bit more to say in Necropolis if you're a necromancer. LoH? I doubt it.
I hope warlock is super strong like in rotw and I can zoom to paragon 300 before they nerf him next season.
>>2386414Don't forget he's got a head full of hair that 99% of the Diablo fanbase would kill to have.
dealing with a bunch of life shit rn can't wait to grind with you guys soon
They need to add a talent for Undercity activity that lets you put MULTIPLE keys in for increased rewards.I cannot overstate enough how UNFUN it is to run Undercity 20 times in a row.Put 20 keys in, get bigger rewards, BAM, done.
3rd Expansion - Nephalem Emperor4th Expansion - Baal5th Expansion - Imperius6th Expansion (Final) - Diablo
>>2388526"I saw a child give birth to a mother, as Hatred’s sun set and that of Terror and Destruction dawned"
>>2388526blizzard will be sold to private equity before we get a diablo based expansion
>>2388510they are for now at least letting us upgrade tributes with the cube
Oh I'm laffin'. Good riddance though.
>spoil that neyrelle dies immediatelybrilliant strategy by blizzard kek. EVERYONE hated her
>>>/v/737640314Why did I go to this board to see what /v/ is thinking about D4.
>>2386524D4 really shit the bed in this regard. Outside of campaign setpieces/cinematics the storytelling on the whole is soulless and phoned-in. The player character isn't even a character with any sort of personality for one, nevermind the fact that no one can name a single incidental NPC that isn't critical to the campaign plot.D3's moment-to-moment plot was moronic most of the time (to put it nicely) but there was clear love and effort going on in regards to the background worldbuilding and various characters. D4 doesn't even have anything akin to the bestiary "audio logs" that that game had for example, nuff said.
It is done.Finished a replay of Diablo 3 story from start to finish after a decade of hiatus, and it was surprisingly fast too even with having listened to every conversation fully. >>2390921Yeah despite everything, the incredible volume of voice acting from lore characters to the minor NPCs really made it feel like a proper adventure. I'm going to miss it for sure when I start VoH+LoH (only played base) next week with a............Spiritborn maybe? Paladin?!
Since my college days, I always perceived D3 as the most "shonen" of the Diablo series. You were literally MC blowing everything to smithereens and Tyrael praising you to the High Heavens. You were canonically the most fearsome mortal.
>>2391915For sure. Going from having everyone count on you as the mighty Nephalem in D3 to starting D4 shivering like a hobo in a cave felt like a huge change.
>>2391889based fellow d3 disintegrate chad
>raxx jumping ship from maxroll to mobalyticsweird
>>2391889Start with a Warlock
>>2390741>caring about what retarded fags on /v/ thinkyou rigged yourself from the start bro
>>2391889Like >>2392225 said, go with Warlock and later I really recommend you try out Paladin.
>>2388526Raxx said on yesterday's stream he heard rumors that Baal is the next expansion.Not taking it as gospel, just saying since he has some connections and it could be true.
36 hours until it is time to play.
The expansion can't come soon enough.
I hope that rend will finally be viable. Fun rend factoid: it has the most satisfying sound effect in the game, besides maybe corpse explosion. :)
I'm glad I skipped this season and haven't played since January, I'm actually looking forward to play without being burned out
I've basically cleared my schedule this week to start min-maxing at release. This is going to be a good one ;`)
>>2388526Has it been confirmed or even hinted that D4 is getting years of expansion like a MMO?
>>2392915They said they wanted to do annual expansions but who knows how things will play out. Even D3 was planned and strictly scheduled to get two expansions years prior to the base game even being finished, but the second one got shitcanned when they were wrapping up Reaper of Souls despite the game being tremendously successful financially. I think we will at the very least get two more themed around Baal and Diablo respectively, or they'll keep milking it for years to come, who knows.
>>2392225>>2392401any particular reason?i played sorc for base game, figured i'd do a not-caster now
>>2392948>figured i'd do a not-caster nowwarlock can be pseudo-melee if you go for a full hellfire demon build
well, i've been thinking. i don't get home from work until 4-5 hours after launch, but i probably won't miss much considering blizz launches.
I won't even be playing D4 until the weekend. I'm full millennial chud.
im so eager to see the designs of Baal and Diablo in D4 they absolutely nailed Mephisto, straight up kino
>>2392915>>2392932So many D4 season launch riddled with bugs that the game will be lucky if it isn't put into maintenance mode before 2027. The #1 thing this game suffers from is bugs and how long it takes Blizzard to fix them. Blizzard doesn't have a seasonal test team, WE are the testers, its why every season has a brief public test period before launching, whatever isn't caught by the players is shipped and half of what is caught by the players still for whatever reason still ships, its fucking WILD and should be a embarrassment that this many people are paid to work on this game yet it suffers and will ultimately die due to bugs, what the fuck do all these people do all day because it sure as fuck isn't fixing broken shit and ALL Blizzard games are like this now.
>Stop playing D4 at season 5>Thinking of buying LOH since it also includes VoH>No threads on /v/>read /d4g/ >I'm not sure anymore. Is $40 worth it just to see mephisto get wrecked?
>season starts 30 minute after the expansion releasesuhhh why? i'm not going to boot up a non seasonal character just to dick around for 30 minutes before rerolling a seasonal one...
>>2394058>uhhh whyProbably to minimize the number of requests at the same time on their servers mounted on top of goats roaming Kazachstan's plains.
>>2393936>all blizzard games in 2026expansion launches are usually 10/10 as in no server issues and very few bugs/problemsthe the good writing talent are gone so its all stories told by troons/jeetsall the stories involve weak, useless, dumb puny men getting fucked over while big strong powerful smart competent women save everyoneIf this interests you then yes if not then no
>Got this today on my Barb>Try it out for fun on a flay/rupture build alongside Third BladeHoly shit this is funI'm a little mad I can't use it after tomorrow unless I get lucky again
What is this strange feeling. I am actually feeling slightly excited to play this new expansion.
>Thought LoH released on Tuesday>Look at battlenet>Releases in 19 hoursOh shit and my PF2 game was cancelled for the week so I have nothing to do monday.Nice.
It's because the marketing team are insanely good and we all secretly want them not to fumble on a Prime Evil's presence we been waiting for nearly THREE FUCKING YEARS.
Have they shown off warlock women yet? Are they fuckable like spiritborn or fridge bodied like paladins?
No, something tells me she's revealing in a heavy metal/goth way though.
Also I don't know what fucking class to play first for the season. I may be jinxing myself but I do have hope that LoH will be fun.
preloading lads
>no one knows of the story is good>one of the reviews that praised the story said VoH was really goodMmmm
>>2395354Warlock. Always pick the newest shit.
>>2394922>all the stories involve weak, useless, dumb puny men getting fucked over while big strong powerful smart competent women save everyonediablo narrative team is not the same as wow narrative team
>>2395354im doing male pala for the story then immediately switching to femlock for blasting
>>2395829I was thinking the same but I'm not sure if I want to spend early season running two separate chars leveling them. I'll have a couple of hours to think about it I guess but I'm leaning towards warlock and once I'm all geared up I go for Pally.
i will play warlock for real and run a sorc with my retarded friend who will take weeks to get through a ten hour story.
Only 12 more hours bros before their servers choke to death Can't wait!
should I buy LOH? or just enjoy the new skill trees with base classes? all i'll be missing out on is new endgame dungeons , two classes and the cube?
anyone here played Warlock? is it gud?
>>2396153season starts 30 minutes after launch, so it will be double fuckery>start playing xpack>realize there is season literally in 29 minutes>reroll in season
>>2396153>>2396217I recall one Anon talking about Genshin Impact (?) servers during their season launches or whatever they have. Anyway, he said that the launch is always smooth despite ten times more people logging in at the same time. Maybe someone could corroborate that claim but If it's true then it begs the question why in the hell wouldn't a billion dollar corporation invest in proverbial few extra servers to keep things stable. How come chinamen can afford it and 'muricans fold at the idea?
>>2396153>>2396217>>2396227blizzard games have 55243124124 different problems to bitch about and hate but server launches are usually smooth with no issues
>>2396153I don't remember them having many problems with the VOH launch
>>2396323>usuallyThat's the key word Anon. I remember VoH having some fuzzy early start but it wasn't too bad - people weren't as stoked for it as for LoH I'd say. But boy oh boy were there Issues with D3 and some inconveniences with D4 base launch, the former had the infamous "Error 37" and no one sans streamers could access the game. Granted D3 was a long time ago, but bad taste remained.I think it's mostly stability issues like in S12 recently when they messed up something server-sided so bad latencies were skyrocketing despite pitch perfect bandwidth and connections.
I played a ton of D3 and my main class was Demon Hunter. How did they manage to make the Rogue in D4 so un-fun? Every other season I check it out to see if it's betterDance of Knives - shittier version of strafe, can't spin in placePenetrating Shot - feels okay at bestImbuements - lame, button = awesome the Rogue skillBarrage - its alright, needs improvementGrenades - suckTraps - suckRapid Fire - feels like straight elephant doodoo compared to D3 Rapid Firemuh HeartseekerRain of Arrows and Arrowstorm - this was the only build I liked, caltrops were implemented well tooHopefully they made them fun but I doubt it
>>2396329>>2396323bro they had to delay VoH launch by a few hours cause the servers were burning wdym
>>2396341that's not bad, d2r was unplayable for days at launch
>>2396329>I don't remember them having many problems with the VOH launchThat was a dumpster fire my man:>last‑minute delay of a few hours because of a “small technical issue on our end,” pushing the global launch later than the originally advertised timehttps://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/diablo-4-vessel-of-hatred-unexpectedly-delayed-due-to-issue-on-the-backend>login/license errors on Battle.net and Steam, and some had the game stuck in updates or unable to starthttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/vessel-of-hatred-startup-play-performance-since-initial-launch/203429Hopefully the learned their lesson (they probably didn't)
>>2396329kekcool it with the revisionist history anon
>>2396349its just RNG if its going to happen, like seasons are usually smooth 10/10 now yet last season launch was a dumpster fire.
>>2396349>a small technical issue on our endA classic, jej.
>>2396352It's splitting hairs at this point but I'd assume launching a full out expansion + season is different than putting out just a season. Even still I'd also expect them to do their due diligence and prepare servers for a (justified) torrent of players trying to log in at the same time.Fingers crossed for that!
is the game tonight in 8 hoursor is the game + season both tonight
which way, white boy?
>>2396469new content releases at 7pm est, new season starts at 730pm est
>>2396487Pala for Campaign, Warlock for Seasonal content
>>2396487how bad were paladins hit with the nerf stick? if they're still anywhere near as retarded as they were when they released i'll go paladin again
>>2396524>how bad were paladins hit with the nerf stickThey nerfed the paragon Castle node so that it's max 125% but Palas are still a power house without it. We'll see how they stack against Warlocks though.
>>2396545>without itdespite it
>>2396524>>2396545the loss of passives on the skill tree is somewhat of a nerf, especially for thorns
>>2396545>We'll see how they stack against Warlocks though.if they dont nerf meta granting ranks to all hellfire skills warlock is gonna be complete bananas broken and it wont be even close
Have never seriously built a barb, is their leveling still rough or has that been smoothed out? I need something to just blast with while my coop buddies are offline
>>2396894I played barb back in season 1 & 2 and even back then it was perfectly fine if you ask me. The lack of passives in the tree now (particularly the +12% movespeed) is likely going to be a little annoying but I presume that all the buffed skills along with not having to hunt aspects for them will make up for it.
do i bother trying to play tonight or no?not a min/maxer, just wanna go through both expansions (didnt buy vessel originally) first and see how i feel
>>2397155for no real reason i've decided to have hope that the launch will go smoothly
Is it worth doing the campaign on Eternal coming from S12? Now I get there are no more passives and most builds have to be respecced skill-wise but I'd rather just make a fresh seasonal character without rolling through the campaign.
>>2397155If you're in a timezone which positions you in a way you can wait in case of any screw ups I'd say go for it. If you're from Euroland like me than it's a coin flip. I'll try to login at 1:30 AM and see what's what but I got a few meeting in the morning so it's 28th during the day rather than graveyard shift.
Under 4 hours away for blast having.I'll probably make a warlock.
>>2397245East coast so prime time for meGuess I'll op on at 8 or 9 and see how SHIT the server is
is there a place i can see all the new talents for every class? i dont want to buy the game before seeing them
>>2397373Just tune in to your favourite #D4Creator or #BlizzardPartner on launch to check out the madness and collect some sweet drops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHmnnNxu6Wwidk whether to cringe or laugh
>>2397373what do you mean new talents? if you already have D4 base game, the skill trees for the base 5 classes are getting updated too without buying the expansion
>>2397373Just go to the build creator area of maxroll or mobalytics and you'll see everything
>>2397398I don't own the base game. Just played a bit during the recent free weekend >>2397401Maxroll doesn't have them and moba seems a little incomplete. Guess I'll wait a few hours and hope stuff it's updated
I'm surprised there aren't complete meta guides out yet, didn't they have an invite beta for streamers like last time where VOH was solved before launch
>>2397444All the trees are changing and there's limited info on all classes but warlock. They'll be updated once the dataminers can do their work
its almost time
Does it look like D4 warlock can be played as pure minion? All his minion skills look like all the minions are only up for a brief period before needing to re-cast them.
>no seasonal mechanic>no new endgame mode, literally just a playlist of shit that is already in gamewhat have they been doing for the last 2 years
>>2397860Well if you want minions you have necro. I think they wanted to go with a class that is enhanced by demons. Not one that strictly uses them.
>>2397932there is a new mode howbeit
>>2397932>>no new endgame modeWe are geting echoing nightmares and an overhauled pit. That's better than the undercity (which is lame) and the raid (which nobody wanted).
Got a nice prerolled joint for the expansion. I am ready.
Hyped expansion less than an hour away and there is zero discussion anywhere. Is there a deader franchise than diablo?
>dead internet schizo has entered the thread
>>2398004me too bro I also have a 4 pack of red bull and some booze
>>2398012unc game, 90% are working dads with 4 children and are hanging out in teamspeak with their colleagues, no energy to post online
Fellers we're so close to having a blast I can taste it.
>>2398012Until now there hasn't been anything to discuss with Diablo.
>>2397957im a seasonal player and always play necro is why im asking, guess nobody really knows for sure yet. I played the necro in D2 and was able to make it a pure summoner there but this is obv different
MEPHISTO JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>2398134necro can have way more skeletons now
goddamn this patch/unpack is cooking my fucking CPU
>she's buff with no titsgrim
>Fem warlocks are fridgesIts over
let me the fuck in faggots
Why is the seasonal character option greyed out?
>>2398178season doesn't start for another 15ish minutes because of steam
>>2398178Season starts on the half hour because i dunno lol
>>2398181>>2398183so is making a character now a waste of time? Wtf Blizzard.
>>2398190Yes.
>LoH OST same composer as BloodborneDamn, that takes me back.
its unbelievable how much fucking gay faggotry is in this game, wtf is this character creator why does every male character either look like a nigger or a faggot
I am emotionally in distress too /v/ tourist. Go on.
So did Neyrelle die a virgin?
>>2398221She got fucked by the writers lol
>>2398200You know you can customize your character right?
aaaaand servers are fucked
>>2398261Nyo...
>>2398261I literally just got off work how could they fuck me over like this
>try to make character>error>restart>loading>error into now forced restart
Start on hard difficulty, dont make the same mistake I did. The first pack of enemy Rekt me.
>Disconnected constantlyIts over...
>>2398339It never even began
>All these connection problems Meanwhile I'm relaxing on eternal running the campaign. Take the chill pill bros.
anyone in the same spot as me? Played Pally last season and loved it, did both campaigns. Of course want to play the new expansion and season, but not sure if I want to start another Pally...
>>2398384I'm playing warlock by force or I'll never play anything but paladin
>>2398386first time? lemme know how it goes. weighing it up. Diablo vet but haven't played any other classes yet in 4. Maybe it's time for Necro...feels a waste with Warlock on the table.
>>2398395Warlock just got released so I have no idea how it plays but I'm sure people will hear about it soon enough
I am getting filtered by the first campaign boss. Is it even possible to dodge this things attacks?
Told y'all they shouldn't have done a dev stream. Wasted time and resources only for connection issues.
The visuals are bretty cool.
hows LOH's story so far? or did you guys jump into endgame?
Server Status?
>>2398439i'm loremaxxing and taking my timeintroductory cutscene with Neyrelle that I avoided watching was sick
BROS I cant pick a class
Hatefilled abomination was a pain in the ass in white gear.
my game keeps freezing when i open menus
The overlay is so nice. We finally don't have to stare in the corner of the screen.
>>2398540You will eat all the cheetos little one.
>log in no problemOh neat>make char, start game: stuck at queued for gameAh....there it is
>inspect the fragment>no fragment appearswelp guess thats it for me, story is already bricked and cant progress.
>tfw can't play for 3 more hoursgo on without me bros...
Alright I dont wanna deal with queue, even though it says only 5 minutes....and then turned into 11 minutesGonna go finish something else I should have finished a long time ago
warlock is extremely fun damnblizz actually knows how to design classes unlike poe
>>2398730No don’t day that….i just made a cutie spirit born
>>2398730Really? So far I'm not feeling warlock that much what kinda build you going for?
I wish I could play
>>2398673Works on my machine.
Am I crazy, or did they make the talent trees simpler? There's no neutral skill points, at least for the warlock
>>2398828not him, but its fun being an edgelord.
I dont understand why we are not killing these fucking filthy demons on sight. Fuck lillith, fuck mephisto.
>>2398828just minions so far. that rampage guy does huge damage
>>2399012>Fuck lillithThat's the plan
paladin or warlock
>>2399018Paladin if you're a basic bitch but also enjoy smacking shit with the lightWarlock if you like shadow the hedgehog
>>2399018Rogue
>level 5 warlock kills everything with ease>my rogue sitting here struggling Why does blizzard always do this.
Arggh my CANONICAL Eternal Realm character is CANONICALLY sad that Neyrelle is dead and thus my CANONICAL motivation is to make Mephisto... pay!!
>>2399088I can't fucking believe they didn't give one new skill to the old classes. I'm fucking seething.
>>2398973I am level 27 and yeah, this shit is dumbed down to the lowest levels. There is no more thinking, just choose as skill, choose a single branch from the skill and thats it. It is way less depth. For rogue pretty much all of the optional passives are gone. Also the key passives are gone. There is less choice than before.
>>2399160I see what they did now. the 10 extra points that would have gone into the other passives now just get dumped into the skill you choose.
It's crazy how much they make Inarius out to be such a little wimp. Like zero sense of redemption for the poor angel.
What's the point of fishing? I catch them for chievos, that's it?
damn the mephisto fight is LEGIT
Celestia region's soundtrack slaps.
How is Barb? Still poop?
>>2399325Nothing has changed for the old classes if you want something new you have to play paladin or warlock.
>>2399328That sucks, I played Pally when it first came out early for D4 and I wanted to roll up something different.
The hitboxes on these little balls are completely fucked.
is there a warlock build that doesn't feel like total shit
>everyone has killed mephisto and is paragon 100>I am still only halfway through the campaignfeels bad man.
For a game with supposedly millions of players. There seems to be almost no one talking about Diablo 4.
>>2399483the entire campaign is just female stronk man bad gay woke shit
>>2399499Did you see that gay ass hug Lorath gave Tyrael
>>2399506yeah I'm sure blizz will say lorath is actually gay or trans since he's the only white guy
They turned a lot of these characters into whiny bitches. Where is my macho man who doesn't take shit from anyone?
>>2399328druid feels completely different, what are you even smoking?
Decided to make a Spiritborn instead of a Barb.
>>2399483please tell me this isnt real
>>2399536it's extremely real
>>2399544guess im refunding before my 2 hours run out then
nice one, I have to reinstall the fucking game on ps5, fuck me
Just look at all this content they have planned. All of these expansions.
>>2399553Remember to login every 30 days to keep your games Anon!
>>2399483you can't escape it regardless of which blizzard game you're playing
>>2399558Westmarch... Home...
>>2399563>>2399483They always blur the lines and make us question weather killing murderous demons and monsters is ethical.
>>2399569no, it's because the place they are from knows the true story of Sanctuary hence the giant statues of both Inarius and Lilith
>>2399483>>2399563>>2399569>>2399573>murderous>repulsive >known to ambush people >dont need a reason to attack >all humans allegedly descend from them>"Nooo you can't judge them they are just like us!!"....are demons just an allegory for negros?
Damn the last part of the expansion campaign really drags on. Just get to the point already.
having fun bros. i'm only like level 23 on my warlock but it is tearing shit up. my warlock woman looks like a tranny desu. very 2003 davey havokesque.
going to bed. shan't be checking in with you all until i finish the campaign sometime tomorrow, no spoilers 4 me. have fun, see ya soon.
Alright, give me the re/v/iew. I shall be awarding extra points for MMO like boss battles and strong narrative prose.
i lolled irl by the female warlock having a stronger jawline than the guy
Diablo4 won
Alright, That Mephisto fight was pretty epic. Its like they hired a proper boss designer.
Where can the story even go from here. It took all that shit just for Mephisto. There is no way we can beat Diablo or Baal.
>>2399777>777God says we can.
>>2399569I will kill and banish as many demons as I can. Always.
>>2399777Is Mephisto even canonically weaker than the other 2?Other than > But in D2 we killed him before the other 2Also, I kinda hated the vanilla game and heard that the previous expansion was meh.Did the "fix everything" ? (or just enough to make the game fun enough)
>>2399602Just like wow orcs, in the end everything for leftists comes down to worshiping the weakest link in the human chain.
>>2399499>female stronk man badhate how they also butchered the bestest character with this... he really didn't deserve that kind of end
>give players choice to choose a gender for their character>NPCs still refer to our character as "Them"They couldn't even be arsed to record extra "he" or "she"? Was that too much for the writers? It's a minor gripe I know but it's fucking exasperating at this point.
>>2400063It's everywhere, the trannyslators won. Look at the warlock (((female))) body.
Wait did they take kill streaks out of the game?
So they actually dumbed down the skill tree? Instead of picking your six abilities then passives to go with those ability you pick your six abilities then just dump the remaining 30 points into making two of your abilities 15/15....or am I missing something?
>>2400251>am I missing something?Nope, you've got it
>>2399824Based
>>2399824That Doom Slayer armor from last season was insanely well done. One of the few things that was worth a damn in the entire store since launch.
how long is the campaign, it better not be 10 hours
>>2400286100 hours of neyrelle SLAYING while you sit around idly and watch
>>2400286its 22 if u rush it
>>2400286i done it in 5 hours if you rushmax and skip literally everything
>lets force them into a 5-10hr story that only drops blue items with the off yellow in a game that usually rains legendary and unique loot
>>2399527In what way? What are some of his new builds? Does he still need tons of auto attacking between skills or dod they unfuck his spirit costs?
>>2400238Sorry chud that was a borrowed power, can't make the game too complicated.
>decide to do the campaign in hc>get 1 shot by rathmas golem
>NOOOOO they dumbed down my skill tree!>Look inside>Your passive options were shit like "Gain 3% more Razzledazzle on Full Moon Mondays">"Movespeed increased by 15%">"Gain 1% of Maximum HP as Fortify when you shit your pants"
what is this season's unlockable pet?
i triedgave the game a fair chance of 2hbut i can not get over the fact that it feels cheaphappy for you anons that like the game but it aint for me
Jesus Christ the story is fucking assholes and painful to get through, the ending was alright but other then that it felt like a fucking womens sitcom all while getting told a story through "feels"when Diablo is meant to be cool and badass. Never thought id miss the days of The Hamburger Helper, even she would of told a better story since shes an actual women and not a fucking troon which is what we got yet again in another Blizzard title, troonslop. The fucking story of Midnight was better then this and fuck me was that also bad.
for fuck sake lorath!!!
>exit game to make webm>open game>downloading i've just had to download another gig patch
patching
>Kulle
>>2400851He is cool
the audio seems fucked
Is this the engoodening of D4?
>>2400921its a startan idea of a start
just finished the campaign, I'm getting mixed messages about how we're meant to feel about Lilith
>>2401032i think the main idea is that she really just cares about Sanctuaryand has mommy complex for everyone fighting to save it
>Lilith finally we can look into my fathers memories>very first memory is Mephisto sitting at a campfire saying life was better before Lilith was born
>>2401032She can piss off in death. One decent deed compared to all the evil she she did in base game.
Not sure how I feel about the new skill trees 2bh it's not any better than getting passives when you're just leveling points in a skill instead. feels like a wash imo.
>>2401032Just another demon some writer tried to present to us as "morally" gray. When in reality she's no better than Mephisto and other demons of hell. All the things she did in the base campaign that we saw are a clear indicator what "person" she is. Good riddance I say.
>leveled as BEEG STORM DRUID with the new super lightning bolt>swapped to Rabies at 65holy fuck both of these are amazing, if either of them turn out to be viable we're in business and if not I'll fucking reroll
how do i get HDR to work again on this piece of shit game? i just played the season 12 couple weeks ago and it worked fine and now it's fucked with blown out colors and shit no matter what i do
>>2401098It's nice to right away have access to what would've previously been aspects/uniques and besides that there's simply more options for builds now, druid especially got improved. So it's not a complete dud if you ask me.
twice now i've had to teleport to and from town to get an npc to move into position to start a dialogue or fight, the lack of polish on this expansion is astounding. like this isn't even hard stuff, I can't believe it made it through testing.
>>2401266Haven't had an issue myself
>>2401270i needed lorath to start a boss fight with some scorpion and he wouldn't come down a ledge, and i needed him to approach tyreal and he was just locked in position. i mean it's good that you can just tp to fix it but bad that it's even a problem in the first place.
Finished the storyKino ending except for the Lilith dicksucking.
hoooooooooooooooooooooly fuck bros did you see the succubus armor. BASED blizz
>>2399780We would need the angels to descend from the heavens to help us fight Diablo again. Not sure about Baal.
>>2401120What did they do with the aspects?
should I play diablo 2 and 3 before 4?
>>2401616Sure
>>2401602Baked a bunch in to the skill tree
>>2401633Yeah okay but what happened to the aspects then? Do they not longer exist or were they replaced with new options?
>>2401744I imagine they replaced them.
>>2401433what
>>2401908slutmog in the shop
Had a nice sleep and woke up ready to play. Did the nerds figure out what the good skills are yet?
>>2402220Yeah
holy fuck this part with the 4 portals around the horadric guardian is dragging so bad. I’m bored out of my mind.
>>2402347Yeah that part really should have just been 2 portals at most.wtf were they thinking
>>2402351“this is an easy way to pad out the campaign time”
>>2402347Yeah that part really dragged on. It picks back up after that.
anyone not a fan of how they removed passives from the skill tree and instead increased skill points from 5 to 15?
>>2402740The pro is that you get skills sooner I guessthe con is that I don't really get excited by +1 pt in a 15 point skill.
>>2402740I'm not crazy about it either since some of the passives were really strong and QOL while leveling
>>2402740Yea, it's quite stupid. It's boring spending every level after 30 just dumping points into leveling skills. I don't know why they couldn't come up with something more interesting.
Don't mean to brag but I'm kind of a big deal in the fishing world.
>>2402740It feels kinds like a bait and switch. Removed all the passives but dump it all into a single skill. Why even have all these skill points anyway?
>>2402778>It's boring spending every level after 30 just dumping points into leveling skillsDiablo 2 bros, our response?!
>>2402778>>2402740Uh but I thought D2 was the GOAT of the genre?
I have no idea how to build warlock.I just spammed dreadclaw through the campaign.Feels like that skill does a ton of damage.
So the story is pretty much Everyone dies The End. Lmao
>>2402740the only thing I hate is the level gating of all the optionsI have to get to level 30 or so before I can actually start to think about synergies - fuck offjust make it an option to turn off and I'd be happier
thought i was in one of those chinese gacha sloppa for a sec
>>2402779Same
>before 1st xpac promise that only xpac exclusive content is locked out>2nd xpac comes up>you have straight up skills, items and WQ locked behind buying xpac on top of other retarded shitI didn't bother to check everything else, progression with thse tiers is also locked behind having xpac for certain points, so there goes their promisemanaged to get to 40lvl as necro and stopped. Glad I didnt get baited again
>>2402957What skills and progression with tiers are locked behind owning the expansion? I'm genuinely curious.
>>2402957>you have straight up skills, items and WQ locked behind buying xpac on top of other retarded shitProofs?
>>2403023>>2403011He doesn't have any.
>>2402957there were xpac only skills with vessel of hatred, for necro it was soulrift I thinkthere isn't any xpac locked skills with the new expansion but obviously those previous locked skills are carried oversame deal with runes and now seals and charms, not sure what else you could be talking about
>>2403011>>2403023on my necro, you have like golem, skeletons etc skills. They get 2x pick one upgrade out of 2, and those "pick one out of 3" have one of that skill locked behind xpacprogression - requires you to do or farm stuff that's not accessible by your character, like that stronghold or whatevel from vessel of hatredthere was world boss spawn avaible only in the xpac zone. And it wasn't some new boss, but your usual goblin oneactually, logged into the game before going to sleep. Pic related with locked out skill. I can understand locking away runes, follower etc. because it is expansion exclusive. But why bother skills?tiers I didn't bother looking it up. World boss expired, maybe you can check if you have it now and if it shows only in xpac zone
>>2403025oh, I didn't know or pay attention then. I coudln't stomach voh xpac seasons enough to even hit max level to find out
maybe my hammerdin build just sucked but it felt like there was a major power de-creep this season. I’m constantly struggling with mana (faith or whatever paladin calls it) and I’m not flying through packs even on hard. I’m only level 65 so I imagine the power will show back up at endgame but this leveling process has been pretty dull.
is warlock fun to play or should i stick with necro
>>2403032It alright.
any website has the warlock uniques uploaded yet?
they nerfed the mercenary shop :(i've been booted from the game 3 timeswarlock seems pretty cool, got an amulet early that buffs abyss damage so im playing purple guyi hope i can make a fun build for flame demon heads story so far is ok but im not sure how far along i am to cast judgement.
This skill is really fun but there is some bullshit where enemies can drain the stacks, making it unusable. For some reason it seems half the damn enemies in hell tides have whatever the draining debuff is. Completely bricks the otherwise really fun build.
>the endingI will reserve my opinions for another week to avoid spoilers.
poggies jojo bros
>can't fish during the mephisto fight>in the fishing expansion>in an area called pools of creation
Side quests are far more fleshed out, not bad.
Made a Spiritborn and started the Vessel campaignDo I like this character?
Perhaps.
Also I feel like starting VoH is the least popular choiceNew players are starting from scratch and the vets are starting from LoH. I've ran into like two other players so far while going through early VoH
Anybody rolling Wall of Agony as a lock? The skill is kino as fuck but its probably one of the weakest the lock has. Its serviceable at the moment, spamming it with the passive that turns it into demons after the wall expires.
nightcrawler boots
>>2402837>>2402868Uhhhhhhhhh D2 old so it's le good when it does it
Is this real? I can't find this in the store anywhere.
why is it so hard to find legendaries now. I really don't like the change that removed autosalvaging blues and yellows. No, I don't want to upgrade some shitty base blue into a legendary. That's the actual worst part about POE and now it's in diablo.
I'm having fun
>>2403558>the worst partYou mean the most fun part. I love crafting in poe. Its so satisfying when you finally hit the stats you need on an item.
Can one of you tell me which boss drops the Nether Step boots for Warlock?
You guys looked through all the skill variations yet? You can make a bone necro do just about everything, grenade rogue seems like a real build now. I want to press on past Torment 1 but my finger is itching on that new character button.
>>2403545yeah i saw it earlier
>>2403559me too. i finally finished the campaign. got kicked from the game in the final mephisto cutscene so had to fight him again kek. road to 70 and beyond tomorrow!
Im impressed, the final boss fight actually felt like a final boss fight. anyone else teared up at Lorath's death? Was really well done in the way they built up to it, made you wish he actually knew you succeeded in killing Mephisto when he was at the tree but his soul was long gone by then
>>2403794>killing MephistoYou meant banishing him my man. Thankfully they didn't go too far with the MacGuffin.
>>2403796yeah my bad, but the person's last thoughts were probably how fucked we all are. sad that it looked like he wasn't really able to process anything when hanging at the tree
i'm not feeling Warlock man, gonna force myself to finish campaign and reroll
>>2375370Maybe after static field gets nerfed but right now it's so broken you may as well abuse it.
>warlock campaign on hard>shit damage>die to everythingi'm having fun!
I bricked my enjoyment of this game playing evade spiritborn a few seasons back. Are there any other builds with similar playstyle, where you passively kill everything while moving around and have a couple buttons for bosses? All of the warlock skills I've tried so far are either way too spammy or require standing still to cast, haven't really found anything on it I enjoy and want to push yet
>>2403941You can probably make a cataclysm lawnmorer build with druid thanks to the autocasting lightning storm and core skill cyclone variants now, i.e. you'll just run around and stuff gets zapped
>>2403952Hmm that sounds interesting, last I played druid was on launch and it was pretty decent at the time. Will check that out, thanks bro
>>2403954nta, but I also used to enjoy playing an affliction necrothat used to be one of the key passives on the tree so you could start playing at level 30 or so but they aren't one the tree anymore so I'm not sure what has happened to that buildmaybe it's a set bonus or they turned it into an aspect I'm sure it's still there somewherebut it's basically just running around with an aura and popping enemies in range and then spamming a curse on elites and bosses for extra dpsvery smooth playstyle
>>2403941Auradin Pala. It's basically walking simulator with one button to boost your DPS if needed.
>>2403877I have the same feeling about Warlock. I know he's busted by design rn but I don't like the class at conceptual level and there's something about his playstyle that I can't put my finger on but puts me off. I'm cool with other people liking him, he's just not my jazz.
>>2403937hard is a mememost of the xp comes from quests anyway
>>2403971what does the top end look like for this build? I played a thorn blessed shield previously that was pretty good on t4/5 bosses but the general clear felt kind of meh. I'm basically looking for something I can 0 to hero the seasonal challenges
the boss fights are so much better
>>2403988>I'm basically looking for something I can 0 to hero the seasonal challengesI don't think anyone can say definitely what's best for that yet, no?They've changed too much shit between the tree and the gearing and the increased top end difficulty I'm like paragon 50 necro and feel directionless because I have zero idea of what isn't complete dogshit in the endgame difficulty
>>2403992Yeah that's fair, I'm aimless on a similar warlock at the moment and just looking around for anything interesting that people have discovered
>>2403988I plan on going with this buildhttps://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/auradin-holy-light-aura-paladin?I suppose there are fine details to iron out but if you want to obliterate stuff in the endgame I'd got with that one.
>>2403989Explain!
>>2403937Sounds like a skill issue my friend I was ripping through shit on Warlock.
>>2403976There a lot of busywork to it which fucking sucks. Every demon summon outside of your shard pet being temporary is so unbelievably annoying especially because you can't cast shit while walking which absolutely bricks some skills, like demon barrage aura that you has to stack to 5.
we're so back! the story was great, and there are so many throw-backs to D3 things --which you just wouldn't get if you're new to the diablo franchise with D4, but i much appreciated. also: guys i think i found a puzzle! i think if we get two teams of 4 together and each stand on a thing, something interesting will happen with this pair of statues...
>>2404150I'm also tentatively excited. Lots of QoL and I actually like skill tree rework. I agree with some anons on Warloc but I'll give him a shot sometime later.>also: guys i think i found a puzzle! i think if we get two teams of 4 together and each stand on a thing, something interesting will happen with this pair of statues...Nice! Hope it's not a red herring though ^^
>>2404118>Trying to face roll my keyboard with a leveling build>Genuinely standing still until I stop pressing buttons The cast time is huge
>>2403907Hope it stays busted all season fuck it. They let Spiritborn stay broken forever at launch and this is probably the most broken a build we've had since firebug which was like 9 years ago.
>>2403952Speaking of druid I feel preseason it was squishy as fuckLike by far the single squishiest in the gameIs this still true?
>>2404194I for one enjoy doing a few billion damage on occasion with zealot
>>2403999>>2404212Pally remains a power house it seems. Nice. I luv me some holy class havoc.
>D4 pulling more and more mechanics from D3>everyone loves itAre we still pretending D3 isnt the best diablo game?
>>2404178XD i hope enough frens are on tonight so we can try the puzzle out!
>>2404150Speaking of puzzles, did anyone figure out whats up with this? I connected all the dots but nothing happened
>>2403032>magenta warlockfeels like corpsplosion necro in alot of ways, with even more upkeep but because netherstep and taunt exists im not feeling like im on the verge of instant death in every fight>black warlockfeels like shadow warlock with more steps but idk>hellfire warlockim having a decent enough blast, even though it feels like im molesting my keyboardway too much shit cross interacts with the class feature/demon shard thing i dont think im going to bother dabbling again until i see my paragon boards, as i am only lvfiddy
>>2404251uh, im more puzzled at why your game is so damn bright
>>2404251holy brightness batman!
>>2404219i should say the goofy crit damage was the pre-season, im trying to make warlock work and im 80% sure they would have addressed it by nowright?even if it isnt hammerdin, which everyone and their mother seems to be
>>2404260>>2404265Taking screenshots with HDR on sucks ass, cant do anything about it, looks fine in game.Anyway i figured it out after restarting the game and doing it again, drops a scroll with some lore
>>2404269where was that on the map?
>>2404269>Taking screenshots with HDR on sucks ass, cant do anything about ityou could review your sceenshots prior to uploading and realize no one's going to respond directly to your query when you upload THAT
>>2404271
>>2404223I'd enjoy it a lot more if more skills/runes were viable and builds weren't almost entirely predicated around sets born from obscene powercreep after the first couple of seasons (thanks Wyatt Cheng)
>>2404280thanks! that was neat
>haven't finished the campaign yet so T1 is still unavailable>the highest available difficulty is so easy that everything dies just by me popping auras and I only ever even have to use my core skill on bosses who are also incredibly easy and I have to delay to make sure I hear the dialogue properly.Who balances this stuff? I get that torment gets hard but like, shouldn't 'hard' also be at least remotely engaging?
>>2404314Given the title of that page, i imagine theres a few more out there. No idea where though.Im currently hunting down chronicles of creation and i swear they're making them more annoying to find with each expansion
>>2404316>>haven't finished the campaign yet so T1 is still unavailable>the highest available difficulty is so easy that everything dies just by me popping auras and I only ever even have to use my core skill on bosses who are also incredibly easy and I have to delay to make sure I hear the dialogue properly.Who balances this stuff? I get that torment gets hard but like, shouldn't 'hard' also be at least remotely engaging?I played malignant sorcererIve played malignant necroIve played every class pre seasonIm currently playing warlockAnd I can safely say that paladin is the most retard friendly class ive ever seen in D4
What is it about this game that as soon as I hit torment I get insanely bored almost instantly, while I can play poe2 for 50+ hours every season.
>>2404375idk hth
>>2404375youre poe2 codedi wish i could relatesome classes are real stinkers though historically
Barbarian status?
>>2404351i am currently hunting down fish. i think i only need 1 more mythic fish, judging by "you are getting close to completion" on the last mythic fish i caught, but idk where to find it... so far i have: helltides, blood vale, lava
>>2404375I think the issue is that you're thrown into the endgame loop almost immediately and the only changes in it are incremental difficulty levels. There are also only a couple damage breakpoints per build that once you hit you're stuck looking for minor % increases that aren't really exciting to hit. And in general I don't see blizzard making the meta change ups that need to happen to keep the game exciting, the same builds are strong every league and that gets extremely boring once you've already played them.
>>2404441i for one cant believe how boring rogue was/is, and im either dreading or interested to see if its not lame as shit this seasonfrom what ive seen [more shock options] seems kind of cool, although a little too cool, for sorc
Is this really the only place on this site where people are talking about the new release?
>>2404469D4 is too dadcore for the other boards.
>>2375370Nonstop lightning meta is infinitely better than nonstop archon or whatever non-elemental build being meta near every fucking season.
>>2404469You can go to /v/ if you want to partake in shit flinging between poe/diablo and schizos
>life on kill affixwhy don't they just fucking remove it if they're going to make it more worthless than it was
>>2404520Gotta have your dumpyAt least it's not like poe2>90% of rolls are brick statsOr og3>Can roll non class gear and retarded +attributes on relevant gear
Im getting tired of the whole, its the chud inarious fault everything sucks
>>2404630The beatings will continue until you take womens rights away. Don't like it invent a time machine and go back 100 years and stop the susan b anthony simps from ruining everything.
So far, I am on T5 with Druid with no set bonuses because I am unlucky as shit and have only 1 of each and shit gear. Paragon 100 and my damage can probably go comfortably higher but I am squishy.What are you guys thinking for Runeword defenses? I tried the rogue shadows and it didn't seem to do shit. Barbarian taunt seems much better (and I have no issues having up about 90% of the time)Anyone try anything else with good success?
>>2404408I really dont understand why we dont have a proper collection menu for shit like statues, fish, side quests etc.Tracking shit is near impossible in this game
>>2404680>Basic QoL being in on day 1Maybe Capcom should make a diablo like
>>2404680heck yea, i want to see a library of my lore and side quest collections, and i want an aquarium of the fish that i've caught. would be awesome
>Torment 5 Helltide>Ancestral drops are worse than dogshitwhere loot?
>>2404946You're supposed to craft your gear now like in poe.
>burn tree down>still do whispers for themi mean they could at least half ass some different theme for the whisper activity if they wanted to go with the whole burning the tree down...
>>2404969I don't consent
Will Blizzards writers ever learn how to writing a leading woman thats not Kerrigan?
>>2405015incapable of it. They just can't not write kerrigans.
>mogs Amazons effortlessly
What is a good build for fresh 70 warlock with barely any legendary aspects? I just want to jump up difficulty so I can start farming shit
>>2405169dreadclaw
>>2405196
>Forum kiddies mass congregating to tell blizzard to make Warlock easierDiablo players will do anything besides getting better at video games
>>2405221>tfw being grossly overpowered isn't enough and you need more
>>2405221forums are filled with unhinged out of touch 45 year old cryboomersnothing wrong with being 45 btw, but the way these people post there is unbelievablei seriously hope Blizzard never listens to anything posted there
>>2405244the good news is that the changes in LoH would never have happened if they were listening to people like thatit really feels like the devs responsible for caving on literally everything since launch have been moved on or sidelined
>>2405244>nothing wrong with being 45 btwkek
I finished the story and man was it a Lilith wankfest. Despite everything the cunt instigated in the base campaign and her taunting us throughout most of LoH how we're "the only thing she has to show for". Also the sudden hate on Inarius and literal pissing on him was so on the nose I could imagine the Karen flicking her bean while writing this crap. Come on, dude was tortured by Lord of hatred himself and was definitely in the wrong, but throwing him under the bus to make the Meph's little girl shine is going over board. It had its moments like Tyrone's return (the theme did its job wonderfully there) and the fight with Mephy was fantastic through and through. The soundtrack is great to listen to and the nods to D2 with Tristram theme et. al. brought member berries. I'd give it 6/10 on my personal scale (I gave 1/10 to VoH) because those outliers made it very enjoyable for me and allowed me to relieve the better times and somewhat ignore shitty writing.
so why does this game feel so much like a mobile gameis it the UI or lack of identity or what
>>2405281>having to justify a 6/10 rating (above average)IGN did irreparable damage to us
>>2405288console UI
>>2405288The majority of current blizz dev experience is on phone games. There's no one left alive who even knows what it's like to make a game exclusively for a computer.
>>2405292Merely throwing my two cents. VoH was so shit that a literal shit in the middle of a field would've had more gravitas than that expansion. LoH is miles better in comparison but the bar was so low it wasn't much contest anyway. Oh and I checked the main story writer and it's a dude. Apparently most of his credits come from co-writing Overwatch and one D3 lore book back in 2013. Great pick for a writer of your blockbuster hit....>>2405015Shit. No wonder why something felt similar. I haven't played SC in a long while and I dropped WoW even earlier so I didn't pick up on muh Kerrigan characterization.
>>2405281the only thing current diablo or blizzard can really do is harken back to when they used to know how to make gamesit's fucking sad literally everything has degraded about that company, it's just absolutely full of trannies and roasties now even the stories are absolutely pozzed
>>2405345>Merely throwing my two cents.I'm not throwing shade at all. You did a nice write up, rated it and gave an explanation. And I completely agree you.LoH was turbo ass, the only saving grace was the new class which is very fun to play, imo. I hope they will NOT continue with this:>set up expansion>pay off expansiontheme because it doesn't work in a seasonal ARPG game if the story isn't an absolute 10/10 banger, which let's be honest never will because we're talking about modern day Blizzard.
>>2405288blame diablo 3 for selling over 40 million units on console
>new town has everything at one placethis sparks joy
I thought there was a shop or something on this alter where I could buy gear with points but I don't see it did they get rid of it?
>>2405281Overall i liked it too, but god damn, is the story spinning in circles. First we team up with mephbro to kill mommy because shes burning down the world, the we switch places and team up with mommy because now mephbro is burning down the world, using worldstone 2.0, which wasnt even explained properly and ignored completely in the end. The highs are really high, but none of this shit makes sense when you think about it.
>>2405460You gotta unlock it by leveling up your mercenaries.
>>2405460need to lvl up a mercenary
I bought it and haven't really played since launch, didn't really stay with it since I didn't really care for any of the launch classes. I'm thinking of going for Spiritborn since I loved Monk in 3, how's that class bros?
>>2405467The war will never end, only change forms...Sorry
>>2405676You've made a terrible mistake
the undercity is gay
>>2405694What do you mean?
So is there any point to farming anything normally or just stick to War plans?
WHAT DO I PLAY, I NEED SOMEONE TO TELL ME.
was there any reason to increase the cap to 70, this isn't like the d3 expansion where it made sense
>>2405778They need to deprecate all your gear to reset everything.
>>2405778Isn't raising level cap Blizz's MO? I could've sworn the same thing happens over at WoW, but I never played it tbph.
Just finished the campaign. Got a bit teary eyed in few parts. Not bad/5 would suck lilith's and amazon queen's tits any day.
Thread baker here with a little off topic: let the thread stay awhile, at least until page 9. I'll make a new one then. >inb4 making /vg/ threadI believe there's still a moratorium on D4 so we might as well stick to /vm/.
>>2405755No one really knows what is good yet. You probably have to play and test things on your own until people figure out what works.
>>2405281Pretty much this. The story makes little sense if one played previous games. Are they really mandating the plot to read like it was made by a 10 year old who just finished reading his first YA novel? Obvious Lilith bias for an odd reason. I mean it's blizz so it's obvious but you get the point. Also:>still nothing on the Nephalem especially from TyroneI know it would take a skilled person to fit in with the story but outright ignoring such a big plot point and a character in the universe just screams incompetence. You could even say he vanished without a trace into another dimension or something like that. Wouldn't be top tier writing but it would've something.
>>2405281that armor looks sick af and I'm not even a doom aficionado.
>>2405467The base game is a mess of rewrites and cut content thanks to the development being a shitshow on all fronts. The expansions are what they are because the original creative leads (namely the guy who'd written Witcher 1&2 who got poached from CDPR by Blizzard back in like 2018) all got ousted by californian faggots and women.
>>2403545succubus ass!
In 25 years of online gaming I have never experienced anything even beginning to approach the level of bullshit network lag that I've been getting here. I'm never playing another blizzard game again, what a fucking joke. Their wow servers are trash too.
>DEI and faggotry do their best to ruin a good franchise... again...>mfwit's all so tiresome
>>2405778It made sense in the previous expansion since it wasn't possible to max out passives in the tree and they added new ones on top of that. Here there's no real reason for it other than NUMBER GO UP.
>>2405937Turrn off crossplay, that solved the lag/rubberbanding completely for me. Can't believe they haven't fixed it since the fucking beta weekend all those years ago.
>>2405950I did, didn't make any difference whatsoever.
>>2405281I remember base D4 story also shitting on Inarius a lot.
>>2405937Try lowering your quality mode. I was getting a shit ton of rubber banding until I reduced this setting. For some reason it lags up the game.
>>2405924just bought this too!
>>2405924>>2403545I thought everyone said warlock women were muscular and ugly.
>>2406072Not everyone is a /v/irgin who hasn't tapped a girl that cared about him.
>>2406072Blind or gay? Did the 8 pack abs and zero hips get your horny to have sex with her (asshole only)?
I picked up the game after not playing since launch, just finished through the LoH story today. Was playing a warlock but not sure if I'll stick with it. How are barbarian or paladin shaking out so far?
>>2406116I'm working so I was watching that Rob guy who seems to know what he is doing and his barb looks fucking fast doing 100s, like Witch Doctor chicken memes fast Meanwhile my druid is strong as fuck finally but we still have no movement; they didn't do shit about that
>The youngest was eight! EIGHT! Her blood still stains this floor!Pragmata sisters...
>Barbarian wields like every fucking weapon in the game>80% of your powers don't really involve using your equipped weapons
>>2406233honestly what classes even use weapons instead of magic looking attacks? Basically just bow rogue, or zealot paladin.
>>2406241idk I guess. Paladin feels the worst about it though.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
Alright these sidequests fucking slap and not a single 4channer will admit it.
>>2405759yeah it seems like war plans double-dips into a lot of things: the war plan progress, seasonal objective thingies, then the activities with corresponding loot themselves. i think it's also supposed to drop a lot of cube materials, but i must not be that advanced enough to get those yet......also. lads. idk how i feel about warlock. i REALLY wanted to like it and all, but it just doesn't seem very comfy to play. the absolute visual clutter of all the warlock skills also means i can't see the monster crap on the ground half of the time, especially in helltide. not sure that i want to start all over on another class tho: stash space is even less now with all the extra charms (and hoarded fish mats cause i'm sure those will be revealed to come in handy for something)
It's weird. This expansion slowed everything down, leveling, finding gear etc. but It still feels fun. I can't explain why.
>>2406363Pandarens had it right
LoH is basically>What if we released D4 but good
anyone else's game go down?
>>2406233I fucking hate the 4 wep barbarian bullshitliterally the only reason I refuse to play it some of the design decisions for this game are so badtrying to do something different and it just sucking asscrack
spiritborn fucking sucks
>>2406072every time i login in the game i ask trade chat why there's only two male options for warlock and paladin
>>2406525maybe? are you able to do damage? sometimes the server desyncs and you have to relog. on another note, if the world has been on the brink of demonic invasions and only 5% of Sanctuary survived Malthael's slaughter how is Akarat "bringing followers here by the thousands" to the Pools of Creation?
>>2406534oh, that figure got retconned by D4 writers, only half the world died
>>2406534>>2406540I deleted my post once I found out. For that quest "The Garden of Akarat", you provoke the Morlu by left-click spamming them all to death. Was it retconned? I could have sworn it got mentioned in D3 that Malthael Thanos'd the world.
>>2406534>only 5% of Sanctuary survived Malthael's slaughter how is Akarat "bringing followers here by the thousands" to the Pools of Creation?who lot of fucking and sucking
>>2406072they're built like a ufc fighter
What's the best build site now, mobalytics?
>keep getting disconnected the second I decide to get on and actually play
how fucking long are the credits?i could have a wank AND cry afterwards and they'd still be going.
>keep forgetting to put sockets in my shit before I transfigure
>>2406581You can skip it dumbo.
>Game crashed in part 3 of 4 of the horadrim dungeon>Have to do it all over againYah fuck this I'll play more tomorrow.
So is torment 12 just the new 4? I’m crushing through torment 6 effortlessly and my damage is only in the low millions
>>2406549it used to be 90% died off, D4 writers retconned it to 50% otherwise it should be way more desolate considering how many people are just straight up dying to demons.
>>2406600Torment 12 is pit level 100. Divide by 12 and you have your enemy level.
>>2406590i am so far away from transfiguring anything lol
>>2406467Skill issue
>>2406595worst part of the campaign kek that sucks bro. mine crashed in the final cutscene and i had to do the last fight a second time. it was annoying.
>>2404406I'm picking the abilities that cause fire damage and I'm unironically having a blast
Going in blind. What is the most fun class/build. Or maybe what is the most boring? I'm trying to avoid just standing around doing nothing. I usually like to play Paladin, is that good? which build?
It is a strange, if not annoying matter that I popped in my head. Both D3 and D4 released in such a rough state from farming someone's wife in a cellar for legs that had stats irrelevant to your character to horrific endgame and procedural dungeon mapping. Then RoS turned it around and so did LoH. Can't say I'm mad because LoH could have shat the bed easily, but now I doubt I want to bother getting D5 on release if it ever comes out.
>>2406695can’t go wrong with hammerdin if you want to move and have hammers orbiting around you killing everything
>>2406710How does blessed shield compare?
maybe tomorrow someone (three other someones) will want to step on buttons with me...
I hope your clan died off.
pretty good whisper cache
>>2406739What torment are you?
>>2406742t5
The game feels weird now. Having to actually look at blues and yellows to use for the cube. Before it was hoping legendaries dropped with every stat you wanted.
>Tur Dulra is no longer a Stronghold>the greatest soundtrack of all is forever lostOkay.
>>2406726based 4chan edgychad
I am in torment 3 and my damage is falling off but I have no clue how to improve it. I have barely found any useful aspects. Even the tempers don't seem to add much. The uniques that dropped have been mostly junk.
What's a fun paladin build?
having trouble getting my hammerdin past torment 10. i have all of the aspects I want, my paragon board has pretty much everything i really needed in terms of glyphs and legendary nodes. my tempers/masterworks aren't totally perfect and I guess some of my shit still isn't ancestral. i just can't imagine climbing 2 more torments with the little amount i have left to improve.
>>2406806yea they've absolutely made all of the good aspects a million times more rare now. i was stuck farming for aspects for a really long time before i was fully online. i recommend upgrading gear at the cube if you want to farm specific aspects/uniques. pro tip for uniques make sure you degrade some blues/yellow into commons so you can upgrade the commons into a unique.
>>2406739Why doesn't it have a greater affix. Do ancestral and mythics not have greater affixes anymore?
>>2406838These mats look pretty rare
I am looking at the leaderboards and there are people who have done 150 pit already. They gotta be cheating somehow right? People feeding them the best gear or something.
im not really liking warlock's gameplay rotation bwos....
>>2406765They never explain the new crafting in game I thought there would be a tutorial or something. I just glanced at the blacksmith and saw tempering it didn't look like much had changed. I've just been using whatever drops as is and haven't struggled at all. When am I supposed to start crafting my gear?
