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I love Chaos!

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uh oh...

Nice lookin' bread we got ourselves here OP

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Fortifying this thread

>>2641982
Lore accurate Admech honestly

>>2641978
>>2641982
The enemies of man would be far more successful if they offered the serfs and slaves these sorts of creatures.

>>2642002
Tzeentch's curse is already on par with dealing with an indecisive woman. Getting a demoness attached at my hip who behaves like this is the ultimate form of hell.

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>Talasa, the recaf dispenser's fusion core has burnt out.
>We need you to get in there, extract the core, and replace it with a new one.
>The Battle Barge's combat readines depends on you. *transmission end sound*

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>captain scotland "dies"
>sm3 comes out
>ashadowy figure appears after its prologue
>Did ya miss me Lieutenant Titus? What is it now lad, a captain eh?

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>>2642106
>>2642121
I like him and don't want him gone.
I like to listen to him more than to Titus

It sucks that they killed him off, maybe his VA left for good

>>2642121
It's weird they killed him off and Chairon but no pips about Leandros.

>>2642206
Nah, getting a VA role in a breakout success and then not coming back for the third is just career idiocy. It's just GW being retarded as usual, but the fact that Titus has been elevated to Company Captain again and is now stuck as a mini-Roboute while he mass-coordinates the whole 500 worlds thing probably means we're not playing him in SM3.

It's not like it was in SM1 where Titus was just doing bravado Captain shit seen in every book. What he's been asked is some nutty logistical nightmare even he doesn't wanna do.

>>2642246
>What he's been asked is some nutty logistical nightmare even he doesn't wanna do.
i've said it in other threads but the sheer scale of ops that a company captain has to be expected to run is fucking ridiculous even with all the enhancements
They're commanding way too few men for such a leadership position over way, way, way too large of an operating area. Even assuming that marine companies work like modern recon companies its still not possible to wrangle that amount of information managing entire continents or even planets worth of ops.

The Imperium and the Eldar have both separately called the Tau retarded for thinking they can exist in this galaxy without resorting to murderkilling every other species, and the Tau have come to terms with the fact that those factions hold that viewpoint, but I want to see how they react when faced with a joint Imperial/Aeldari front. I'm talking integrated forces, with Guilliman calling the shots.
>B-but you said no one can get along!
Rules for thee, vaginaface. Now get out of my galaxy.

>>2641978
>Forces you to solve a Rubik's Cube before you can slam

>>2642246
How hard is it to get a VA role in a decently big game or franchise?

>>2642302
Hard. Enough apparently that they couldn't get Mark Strong to come back as Titus' VA. Though he is more of an A-lister actor these days so that might've played into that.

>>2642302
The only way to get a job in entertainment is to know someone successful already in the industry. And most of the time it requires selling your soul (literally) be being the cocksleeve for some kike.

>>2642302
Extremely hard. These days you need to work for free for years building up a repertoire, doing voices for people's mod projects and shit, and voicing meme comics on Twitter. That's like the most uncucked way (not literally sucking penis) of getting in and there's no guarantee.

>>2642293
>Rules for thee
its universally a temporary measure of
>chaos/nids/orks are an existential threat to everything civilized
rather than some kind of foundation of cooperation
these are factions that can't even get along with themselves internally, they're going to eventually kill each other for land just not until after they kill the people trying to destroy the land itself

>>2642330
Eldar and the Imperium have made for good friends before, even without the existential threat. It does help, though, like in the Mars books where some Black Templars end up awkwardly befriending some eldar and ultimately all die to protect the farseer who was stuck channeling a big fuck you spell at a rogue magos who was trying to delete Terra and Mars and install himself as the new Emperor.

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fucker.

>>2642423
Fucking Diggers

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I every time I encounter new people in this game I think they all look and sound like Joe Rogan making monkey noises.

>>2642472
beaked thing

>>2642472
The Heavy has decent stats too though

>>2642472
>700 melee
>2000 melee for Bulwark
Lmao no one wants to play melee in SM2

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>>2642392
I really enjoy those little one-off alliances. Pic related has a fun one where a tau expedition sets off to investigate an abandoned imperium facility. Turns out it was an Ordo Xenos outpost that was experimenting on tyranids, Aliens-style. It ended predictably. The tau expedition then discovers that they're actually the second team to get there, as a Deathwatch kill team had already tried--and failed--to destroy the facility decades or possibly centuries prior. The whole team is dead, of course, except for a single Iron Hand, who has essentially been in a kind of horrible standby-mode ever since. One of the tau, who had been infected with a gene-stealer's bite, juices him up enough to get him moving again and stays behind with him in the shared understanding that they're going to go deeper into the facility and find a way to destroy it. Maybe a dozen words are exchanged total, but they both agree that, one, they're both going to die, and, two, the tyranids need to die with them. Great story.

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>console heavy doesn't read the weekly's modifiers and just guns down every execution

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double heroic plasma is entertaining

>>2642246
>>2642302
>>2642311
Blame the subhuman trash in SAG-AFTRA
They purposely sabotage every single voice acting role / studio they don't get their talons in

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MODS ARE CHEATS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-70W5rCpVE

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>play absolute nidder ops
>only annoying things are certain neuro / zoan spawns in certain areas
>ranged bush spam kinda whack
>still fun
>play absolute gayos ops
>it's ALL gimmick mission shit
>gayos spawns are godawful shit
>rocket termies still have fucked hitboxes
>tzaanggers up your ass 500% of the time

sounds like 100% skill issue doebeit

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>bröther off-screen swoops in on my 80% contested health bank

>>2641959
Are the recommended prestige perks in the OP still relevant?

>>2643453
I don't see Saber changing them anytime soon

>>2642299
Just peel the stickers off and rearrange them.

>>2642823
Iron Hands sometimes get great little stories like these and yet nobody will ever care about them.

What is it about Iron Hands that makes then kryptonite to people and yet the AdMech are so loved that the Skitarii class gave Darktide a defib jolt of 50K players on Steam?

>>2643814
Aesthetic, tone and lore are both entirely different despite the base similarities. Had the benefit of hindsight existed on creating the IH, then GW would have probably disbanded them into a second founding Chapter like the BTs, called them some shit like The Omnissiah's Blessed, gave them the AdMech's Forge World paint schemes with Mars being the base, and then maybe made them a little goofier. The AdMech are probably some of the most consistent sources of goofy humor in 40K, so that being translated into an Astartes Chapter would have made them far more popular.

>[[[ error ]]] damn not found

>>2643814
In my limited experience, Admech are the foil to modern Necrons in that they're different ways of vying for fans of the Disney Star Wars movies, while Iron Hands fans at least pretend to be fans of Oldhammer

>>2643102
>SAG-AFTRA
You mean the Film Actors Guild? :^)

>>2643905
WE
ARE
FAG

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>>2643814
>Primarch is the first to die; he does so during the onset of the Heresy and has little character to care about because it serves to build up Fulgrim's own
>Among the most notable guys from the Iron Hands during this time is Moon Man, who gets his own successor chapter of crazy bastards later anyway
>The direction they take ends up going against what space dad intended, taking off perfectly good limbs from a supersoldier in favor of bionics probably seems stupid
>Raven Guard and Black Templars contest IH as black paint chapters, and then there's Dark Angels within 30k in that area as well - who just have immaculate drip
>Iron Warriors also exist as a legion with 'Iron' in their name, whose bitter nature sees more appeal
>WAACfag infamy on the tabletop up to and including SMASHFUCKER, hasn't been relevant in a long time now otherwise
>"oh yeah they're the tank guys"
>palette not even in DoW1 by default (other than the remaster)

All comes back to being something of an acquired taste.

Any siege 15 hard/normal weeklies?

>>2643830
>Admech are the foil to modern Necrons in that they're different ways of vying for fans of the Disney Star Wars movies
What? I like Necrons, whether old or new, and I fail to see what they have in common with the Disney SW movies. Admech too.

>>2644041
I just have a heavy distaste for the Trazyn "haha he's got 40657234890634298758943027 different things in a vault so GW can put on ice anything done by writers who leave" the Infinite and the gaggle of Tomb Kings in space that they are now over the Terminators in space they used to be as most of the media I consumed for the setting was written prior to the 5th edition rewrites

>>2644038
post code

>>2644056
I rather join, I live far away and with bad intrawebs

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>>2644078

FTG has some of the worst enunciation I've ever heard. It's clear he wants to talk fast, but he swallows and slurs words so much it can barely be called talking anymore.

>>2643938
Literally me.

>>2644206
The only times I have heard his voice was when I needed a channel for the Twitch drops, but I can't even remember how he sounds like

>>2644078
There's so much voiceline jank in this game, it's infuriating
I assume someone else had swapped their character's voice either to scipius or a chapter DLC? There's a whole lot of bizarre spaghetti when that happens.
Then you have things like
>fall of atreus start
>artisan balthazar going on about how cool the boat is
>suddenly stops as if someone started talking over him
>a full second later, titus's interruption starts playing
Or straban saying "depot appears secure, and devoid of xenos" after the first bit of ballistic engine, when you enter the weapons depot that is scripted to be full of xenos in plain view.
It's the little things.

Brothers, the power fist. Instruct me!

June community update

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/420-june-community-update

>>2644347
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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CHAOS SIEGE
CHAOS SIEGE
CHAOS SIEGE

DEATH TO WORSHIPPERS OF THE CORPSE GOD

>>2644347
>new Chaos "spin-off" of Siege Mode
interesting

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>The Exorcists chapter will receive a bespoke Cosmetic Pack

>>2644347
>The first one is the Absolvor Bolt Pistol, which will be the signature weapon of the upcoming new class. Sooo Chaplain, Apothecary or something else maybe?
It'd be funny if they went with a chaplain honestly.
>The second one is the One-Handed Thunder Hammer. While we mentioned a few months ago that the Greatsword was the priority for a new melee archetype, plans have changed (though perhaps it is still coming?).
This one is pretty nice, I wonder if it's going to be available on bulwark though.

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New heroic weapons skins

>>2644351
MANSLAUGHTER IT IS THEN

>>2644361
>melta-fist
>so you can anti-tank while you anti-tank
Sword looks cool though

>>2644342
You too?
I picked up the power fist just yesterday, and was about to ask, how do I use the block fist?
Block doesn't stagger enemies so there's no opening for a follow-up, or at least I don't know how to make one. Fencing is pretty nice and save, but I want to try out Block's damage.

>>2644347
>Sooo Chaplain, Apothecary or something else maybe?
Hopefully something else and not a healing class, the squads can be pretty cancer as it is already. If they add something like that, it will be demanded in every squad. Bulwarks are constantly getting bullied into picking the "correct" perk already.
Also no perk reworks...

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Summarized.

>Absolver Bolt Pistol
>One-Handed Thunder Hammer
>Heroic Stalker Bolt Rifle
>Heroic Power Sword
>Heroic Power Fist
>Heroic Thunder Hammer (Datamined, not in this blog)

>Space Wolf - Wolf Guard Champion "with a round Stormshield" (So Bulwark)
>Salamanders Champion with a Multi-Melta skin (Heavy)
>Deathwatch Champion
>Exorcists Cosmetic Pack
>Raptors Cosmetic Pack (Helmet, Chestplate, Left/Right Pauldrons, Cloak with alt variant)
>"As we revealed in last month's Community Update, one of the Champion DLCs will be for the new class, the same way it was for the Techamarine class."
Deathwatch Champion is for the new class then, the other two are accounted for.

>"Two new Bosses will be added at the end of their respective Operation."
Obelisk and Purgation?
>2 new PvP maps
>Scarab Occult Terminator is coming and will be a roaming Terminus boss
>Chaos Siege-esque mode

>>2644347
>a Deathwatch Champion in Year 3
So that old ass datamine was actually true? Wow. Very cool though, we need more DW goodies.

>>2644347
>chaos siege
By the warp, I never thought it possible. That's actually good news.
>one-handed thunder hammer
Eh, still now claws.
>new heroic weapons
2 of them for weapons that already have heroic variants. They should just werk on getting all weapons a heroic variant.
>salamander heavy melta skin
My knowledge of Salamanders lore is limited, but isn't the heavy melta still kind of a blunder when there is a heavy flamer? They prefer flamers, don't they?

>Scarab Occult Terminator Sorcerer
outdated april fools joke?

>>2644370
The amount and places for the Raptors armor pieces make me optimistic for the level of tactical shit strapped onto them

>>2644381
No legs is disappointing as fuck though.

>>2644365
>You too?
Indeed. From what I can tell it's mostly just charge attacks you wanna go for?

With block weapons, you wanna collect your block points from perfect blocks and then cash them in in a big explosion.

Exorcists getting a cosmetic pack was not on my cards but damn am I happy about that. Those guys are fucking sick.

Judiciar is now the class being put on the table because they use both the Absolver and the greatsword.

>>2644401
>Don't need to add any new voicelines because Judiciars are sworn to silence
Holy shit it's so blatant.

>>2644401
>>2644410
Can't Judiciars slow down time in an AOE? That would actually be pretty sick as an ability.

>>2644410
I was typing exactly that kek
At least the time slowing hourglass sounds like a neat ability if that is the case

>>2644401
The only thing I hope for is that it is NOT apothecary. Adding a support class would absolutely destroy whats left of this game.

>>2644392
>From what I can tell it's mostly just charge attacks you wanna go for?
Yep, it becomes an absolute beast at artificer due to this perk. It does have a target limit, so it can't penetrate all enemies, but it still hits a decend chunk. Basically ranged heavy attacks, I'm enjoying it a lot.
One thing I didn't expect though is minoris becoming a problem, unless I land a parry with intimidating aura

>>2644422
Disagree, they just need to change the cHP and armor system so a support is a bonus and not mandatory, which is what they plan to do.

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>>2644435
>forgot pic

>>2644361
>stalker bolter is just an instigator heroic
>block powersword
>block power fist (with melta)

They're not adding an Apothecary or Chaplain, it's the Judiciar which is a Chaplain-in-training.

Not allowed to speak, carries a greatsword, slows down time for 40k Omnislash.

At this rate they should just add the Apothecary and Leandros, that way lobbies won't shit itself up like the Techmarine did.

>>2644361
The Power Sword looks like it sets enemies on fire.

>>2644446
>it's AOE makes Intimidating Aura burn enemies instead of electrocuting them
Damn, that would be rad as fuck.

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>Absolver Pistol
So something related to the Chaplain. The vow of silence Judiciar would be so simple and be like Telorian who doesn't have mission specific lines outside of Disruption and Purgation.
>One-handed Thunder Hammer
I was actually pretty keen on this idea a year ago and I can't believe it's being done. Props. Guess we'll be waiting longer for a two-handed sword.
>Two new bosses to be added to the end of the mission
At first I thought this was going to mean Obelisk and Purgation will get that Terminator Sorcerer at the end but am I just reading too much into this? It's not like they just confirmed two new end-level terminus enemies AKA two new operations are coming next year or did they just do exactly that?
>Exorcists pack
Looking forward to getting more ways to make this mono-orange color scheme look cool because I sure as hell can't
>New Heroic Power Sword
Looks like it's a Salamander themed one?
>>2644380
Been datamined for at least 7-8 months at this point

Also, the one-handed Thunderhammer will make thos 2H thuderhammer Bulwark builds feel less like a joke with how you just entirely give up laughing in ranged enemies faces.
Good alternative honestly.

Epic fail

They added a 1H Thunderhammer but not allowing the Tactical to gain access to the 2H Thunderhammer and not giving the Assault a 1H small Stormshield

>>2644458
my face is my shield!

>>2644456
Oh yeah, that's actually a great point. Honestly, just remove the Thunder Hammer from Bulwark and give him this one-handed version instead.

Heavy and Vanguard reworks were promised to me 40,000 years ago.

>>2644347
Early july PTS, cool. Perfect timing for me.
I'm terrified of the terminator sorcerer, that fucker sounds like he could make chaos/mixed ops worse if he shows up. Zero chance he fights in melee either, best fun melee classes can get will likely be some sort of stun like with the neuro. I'm expecting neuro AoEs + tzaangor disc flying + exalted sorcerer spell BS and teleports. If they manage to pull off a boss like this without making it frustrating and unfun, I'll be immensely surprised.
Melta fist is also interesting, I'm curious how they'll handle it.

Maybe Judiciar was picked because it frees up the VA team to fill in the gaps elsewhere? I mean, hypothetically, Telorian gets a lot more lines for older Ops, and the Chaos characters are going to possibly need new lines for their new mode too.

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What big-ass Tyranid bioform can we kill that's not flying so melee classes aren't robbed of any satisfaction like the heldrakes? Since these are stage bosses, there can be gimmicks to this
>Haruspex might feel like the Mutalth but Tyranids
>The Mawloc overlaps with the Trygon Prime
>Tyrannofex/Tervigon/Psychophage/Malceptors are on foot so maybe?
>Neurotyrants that only float would be cancer
>Norn Emissary/Assimilator
Even less sure about Chaos/Tsons in particular
>Defilers/Forgefiend/Maulerfiend
>Another Exalted Sorc
>Some projection of a Lord of Change/Magnus

I actually made a Salamanders Assault Marine and have been sitting on the idea about just buying the Sniper Champ DLC for the cloak but it could be possible for the Heavy Champ to get an even bigger cloak.

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>>2644467
Don't you dare remove the 2 handed hammer, I need it to take cool screenshots
I would be inclined to accept it if they give it to the Tactical at the same time, with the power sword too of course

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>>2644473
>Chaos Siege
BIG
Might result in more customization for Chaos and Loyalists to fight, essentially a third possible enemy faction.

>>2644558
I don't think there are going to be loyalists to fight, it'll still be against the Nids and Sons, with the latter being an internal spat about how Chaos Undivided wants whatever the fuck Imurah has for their own gains.

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>>2644422
Biologis would fit very good and would finally be a 2nd Gravis class

>>2644565
>and would finally be a 2nd Gravis class
Techmarine is Gravis.

>>2644558
meant for >>2644347
>>2644562
I can see those two features being possible now

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>>2644566
really?

>>2644581
Yes, they used a modified Gravis platform. Techmarine has access to Heavy's basic shoulder pieces.

Melee changes to parrying windows:
>Balanced: 0 to 330 ms (like Block currently)
>Block: 0 to 450 ms
>Fencing: 0 to 700 ms
Done. The windup time on Balanced is just too much of a cuck to use them.

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On Average difficulty, a fully charged shot from the Relic RoF plasma pistol does not put a Rubric Marine into execution.

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two years later and heavy is finally getting his first champion skin

>>2644602
but on the other hand, it can put minoris into execution :)

Any weekly hard siege gamers?

Apparently there's also going to be one pyreblaster/cannon or melta heroic in Patch 14.

>>2644624
PLEASE
HEROIC MULTIMELTA WITH A BLOCK MECHANIC THAT INCREASES THE DAMAGE OF YOUR NEXT SHOT
PLEASE
P L E A S E

>>2644622
Post code and I'll join

>>2644634
Heroic melta of any type that makes it actually lore-accurate would be more impressive

>>2644639
RSPAM

>>2644347
>a heavy heavy bolt pistol
Oh fuck off.
Where's the bolt revolvers and bolt shotguns?

>>2644651
2/3

>>2644657
wait 5 mins for me plz

>RSPAM
Need a third brother for jolly siege gaming

>>2644654
This is Space Marine 2, not Heartkyn Warrior 2

>>2644660
nevermind

Someone joined and then left

>>2644687
300 ping

how the fuck do i control the direction of my attacks, it just auto-locks to the nearest enemy im losing my fucking mind

>black templar joined for 5 rounds of siege
Just go play solo, asshole

>failed to connect
JUST

Post code...

>>2644694
Press the movement key in the desired direction. Like, if you just made an attack to the front, pressing S + Attack will make you attack in the opposite direction.

>>2644711
ZXMBA

>>2644716
Sorry bruv, fuck Saber

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>select class
>queue mission
>upon joining, game asks you to pick class
>the class you selected earlier is available
THEN WHY DO I HAVE TO FUCKING PICK IT AGAIN BY THE EMPEROR

>>2644732
I'm fairly certain Tactical's class lockout is broken, this is the one class I constantly see get fucked with double ups.

>>2644744
nta and it just happened to me as bulwark, also happens as bulwark

>>2644378
>work on getting all weapons a heroic
Some weapons don't even need them. Like the stalker or power fist. Even the power sword's in a pretty good place right now.

What weapons really need that shit are the occulus rifle, the auto bolt rifle, and maybe the inferno pistol. Maybe the melta rifle too to make it compare more favorably to the pyreblaster. Ideally they should get buffs so their relics are at least usable absolute+.

The las fusil got a heroic datamined ages ago. Gimmick might've been that it was charge free. And then they just never put it out. Might've needed more of a gimmick than that, but the fusil could use a heroic too. This game's too jank to consistently land headshots on pad with a rifle like the bolt sniper, so more often than not, I run bolt carbine on my sniper. With the fusil, I run out of ammo too fast. I'm always out of ammo by the time thropes spawn and I need it the most.

>>2644757
>also happens as bulwark
as heavy*

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>>2644347
So the SW champion skin is going to be akin to pic related?

>>2644378
Salamanders like anything and everything that burns, which is why the new Heroic Power Sword is Salamander themed.

Multi-Meltas
Plasma Incinerators
Pyreblasters and Cannons etc.

>>2644506
>>Norn Emissary
Norn emissaries are targeted assassins that are sent to rape targets even a lictor can't get to, I don't think we'd see one in this campaign. Those fuckers don't get out of bed for anything less than a chapter's entire gene seed vault.

>>2644795
They specified the round shield so yes.
Guess they're going to need an even more bombastic helmet.

>>2644802
I'm fucking around with this bit but 6-9 marines essentially stopped the invasion of Avarax while also wounding a hive ship after killing a bio-titan.
Hive Mind might actually just want to kill Acheran for this.

>>2644805
>Hive Mind might actually just want to kill Acheran for this.
kek, that makes two of us

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>>2644803
>even more bombastic helmet
>Awooooo!
I got you senpai

why would anyone choose mk8 errant helmet when the standard mk8 looks better in every way?

>>2644558
We probably aren't fighting guardsmen and AI space marines unless they overhaul the shit out of them. They weren't designed to be player fought enemies, so they don't have movesets that would make them challenging or fun to fight.
They'd need to be on the level of nids and Tsons too, which would take multiple years worth of updates judging by how often they implement new enemy types. Once they did that, there'd be pressure now to put the new loyalist faction into ops, because people aren't gonna like the idea of unique enemy types being siege exclusive.

Maybe one day, but for now, expect to only be fighting Tsons and nids.
Chaos vs chaos makes enough sense since warbands butt heads with eachother more than they even do with space marine chapters or the imperium in general.

H9M24
evropa

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>Space Wolves getting another fucking Champion after already getting a Champion + Cosmetic Pack + the most comprehensive reworking of any Champion Skin + the Wolf Guard helmet

I need more fucking Phobos armor pieces.

Chaos siege is just gonna piss me off unless we get some significant customization for them. Literally one armor set (and not even that for warpsmith) is not enough.

>>2644841
I hate phobos legs

>>2644805
Kadaku was lost completely and Avarax was on its way until Calgar showed up with multiple companies.
Keep in mind, this was only a small tendril and the 2nd company still lost something like 70 marines.

>>2644866
Calgar mostly showed up to Demerium, I don't think we got word about 1st Company and the Honor Guard sticking around the system for much longer after Titus killed Imurah.
70 marines and a splinter hive fleet (mixed in with a chaos incursion from an OG traitor legion) stopped seems like a decent ratio.

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>>2644866
>small tendril
The nids are basically unstoppable and every victory against them was just stalling the inevitable, no? They have the numbers, they have the intelligence, they have the adaptability. With every world they conquer, they grow stronger. There is no winning against them except maybe with the necrons because of their material-dissolving shenanigans, but they're not really in any shape to make a concerted effort towards opposing the nids.

>>2644942
Nurgle mogs the Tyranids, the Death Guard and co. are a straight hard counter. A Tyranid hive fleet tried to slurpy straw one of Nurgle's worlds and the ship that did it basically puked and sharted itself and the rest of the fleet blew it up in a "fuck that" moment.

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>>2644678
I want shotguns, damn it. They're my favorite type of gun. It's a beyond a sin that this game's going on three years of heavy post launch support now and there still isn't one proper shotgun.

Meltas are nigger bullshit. They're melee supplments that're only good for stagger and horde clear.
I want to be able to one shot majoris with point blank headshots. I want to at least be doing more than 0.1% damage when I'm shooting thropes with it.

Idk what Saber was thinking making thropes resistant to meltas. I have to take myself out of cover so I can get hit by those janky bubbles and that janky beam, get passed a horde of bodyguards filled with shit like enraged one shotting devourers, put myself in range of their stupid scream aoe that does too much damage and not enough telegraph, only to do zero fucking damage and not even be able to stagger?
Meltas would still suck dick against them even if they did any fucking damage!

Revolvers would make more sense than their automatic counterparts for space marines to carry in many situations. They're also just far fucking cooler. The cylinder rolling and clicking after every shot, knocking the cylinder out with one jerk of the gun, all six cartridges falling out simultaneously, reloading one bullet at a time.

>>2644942
Invite them to Catachan. It's such a hostile environment that even chaos fucked off from there.

GG brah, got shot to bits by multiple Terminators and got rekt by the Vortex Beast in the last two waves

>>2644942
>unstoppable
> just stalling the inevitable
>There is no winning against them
you actually learn the way to defeat the tyranids in the game, you just didn't pay attention. A synaptic shock caused, for instance, by a wave released by death of a very powerful psyker, could fry the synapse organisms and make the lower nids go feral.

>>2644962
The Hivemind just makes a new Hive Tyrant though and that one literally inherits what the last Hive Hyrant knew. That's not defeating the Nids, that's again, just stalling and waiting for them to return stronger.

>>2644961
gg, still unsure whether I should run heroic hpi or nade launcher. I didnt get any damage modifiers but was still competing against your nades
The random was beyond useless kek

>>2644981
>The Hivemind just makes a new Hive Tyrant though and that one literally inherits what the last Hive Hyrant knew
Did they start downsizing Swarm Lord memory retention to Tyrants now?

>>2642311
>>2642314
>>2642325
Well that sucks. I've received compliments about my voice about 2 dozen times or so this year so I thought about the possibility of doing some voice work on the side. I don't expect myself to get any serious work very soon because it's a skill that takes time to build up, but I had no idea it was that rough.

>>2644991
You can always try and start posting something on socials. You know, spread the proverbial (and literal) word out. Chances are with time you'd get picked up by someone from the industry or get recognition by sheer popularity.

>>2644983
For Heavy both are great, double/triple heroic HBR cheeses the entire mode
Someone just has to buy ammo boxes because you're all going to fight for the scraps on the map
That's why I was siphoning medkits so that ammo boxes will spawn

>>2644991
Is that you, Method?

>>2644985
Huh, no, why? The same applied to the previous Hive Tyrant, and so on. So they know what the Hivemind knows, essentially.

Absolver pistol is used by the Judiciar (chaplain-in-training) and the Chaplain.

Apothecaries use all kinds of pistols but their most iconic one is the HBP.

Judiciar doesn't talk at all because they're not allowed to under vows, slows time and carries an Executioner greatsword while Chaplain goes full mental and full nuts about the Emprah and is mostly armed with the Crozius Arcanum but they can be equipped with the power fist, power mace, power sword and Thunderhammer.

Very funny because at one point after Titus was taken by the Inquisition, Leandros was forced to stay silent until he got promoted to Chaplain.

>>2645060
>Leandros was forced to stay silent until he got promoted to Chaplain.
There is no doubt everyone in the 2nd company was in constant celebration during that time.

>>2645085
Being promoted to Chaplain isn't a demotion and the 2nd company veterans like the new nigga sergeant believed Leandros

>>2645089
Leandros pls go. Take another vow of silence.

If the new Power Sword burns enemies then that is easily going to become an S-tier weapon. The only thing that could fucking ruin it is by being Balanced. Make it Fencing or Block, I don't care, but if it's Balanced I'm bombing those Vatniks myself.

>>2644954
>He doesn't know
Prevailing scientific theory in universe is that Catachan's wildlife is mostly just leftover tyranid bioforms from previous galactic incursions.

One big improvement to the mutalith would be if the lasers were spinning clockwise instead of counter-clockwise. It's literally just exploiting the shitty FOV, the fact that half of your screen, namely the left side, is covered by your character

Okay, so on Block weapons again.
Am I getting this right:
-perfect blocks instead of perfect parries
-perfect blocks do not give gunstrikes, they give adrenaline charges instead
-therefore no CHP recovery from perfect parry leading into gunstrike
-however, once you have 2 adrenaline charges, you can melee for a big explosion that will stagger bascially anything and you will get 1 armour back
-perfect block windows is 0-330 ms (0-660ms on fencing)
Anything I forgot?

The idea then is to perfect block, perfect block, wait for opportunity to get big damage in. Does the adrenaline explosion's damage scale with the attack that caused it or is it the same on a light hit vs. a fully charged heavy hit?

>>2645029
Who's Method?

>>2645126
If they make it Balanced it's going to be DOA

>>2645198
Perfect blocks also don't stagger enemies, so you'll have to block their entire combo or dodge away until you can do anything.
To be honest, I am so compelled to use the gunstrike while fencing that I do it even when I REALLY shouldn't be doing it, so the real advantage of blocking (for me) is that I can't fuck myself by gun striking

>>2645198
I'd advise training by using Ardent Edge, because while it's Fencing, it has the same 330ms window as Block. If you can get good with this in terms of your reactions, then you can easily shift over to Block.

>>2645001
Yeah I gotta start from somewhere. I'm kind of scared and I'll have to spend some money on better audio equipment, but it is what it is.

>>2645198
Don't forget that once you activate and spend the adrenaline surge with the explosion you have a significantly increased melee damage output for a short window that you would ideally not waste executing and just swing at more enemies.

>>2645244
>I'm kind of scared and I'll have to spend some money on better audio equipment
If you want to be above 99% of the shitters with the same dream, then a good mic with guard and pop filter are mandatory. You do not want to be the faggot popping like it's hot on every perfectly punctual piece of dialogue put upon your lap.

>>2645214
nta but I've already had my 50+ hours with AE knife and I am quite confident with block weapons. I do have a question tho, is block power axe worth it on bulwark, with its backstep and all?

>>2645267
>is block power axe worth it on bulwark, with its backstep and all?
Block Power Axe is the best first-time Block weapon to transition to because the backstep is basically a pseudo gun strike. Then you can double damage overhead with AdStacks for retard damage on the closest cunt who didn't get hit by the backstep.

>>2645276
Got it. Thank you Brother. I will test it out and report on my endeavor!

>>2645085
Judiciar is a new primaris only position. Didn't exist back in the before time.

>>2644347
>Absolver Bolt Pistol
We’re really getting playable Leandros?

>>2644803
We actually already got that Helmet in the latest update.

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>Update 14 is rumored to have CSM siege mode
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!

>>2645350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQzPfTdCbM

>>2645350
Not update 14, the year 3 updates after update 14

>>2645126
The necron power sword's already balanced, and they've never given a melee weapon more than one heroic with the same parry type, so it'll surely be either fencing or block.

I don't think they've even made balanced heroics since the first time they tried. I think they know by now that balanced is considered gay enough where it's going to instantly make any heroic nerfed with it predominantly dissapointing.
I think their main goal with heroics is to help reel back in burnt out players, so I'd be kind of surprised if they ever made another balanced heroic unless they overhaul how balanced parries themselves work, not just juice up the stats.

One Anon suggested that they just make it work like fencing, but cut the timing down to argent edge tier, or even tighter. Basically give it the parry frames a parry would have in a high end action game where you actually have to make contact with the attack the moment it actually hits you. I think that's a pretty good idea.

I like the idea of fencing variants being relegated to training weapons for aspiring meleechads and parry sticks for rangedfags.
Balanced can be for confident meleechads.
And block can be a weirder, feast or famine esque alternative. Between the extra armor generation and the aoe stagger, I guess you could say block's strongsuit is straight tanking.

>>2644361
I’m guessing the Sally Power Sword can do fire damage and inflict burning.

>have the playerbase divided between 10 pve and 4 pvp game modes
advice saber
>add another pve mode
splendid. you now how to make a chaos siege mode? just fucking unlock chaos cosmetics in pve you morons.

>a million and one problems
>servitorcattle: we need more capes :O

>>2645365
PvP is gay and fine where it is right now. You're getting new maps, shut up.

>>2645360
Imagine they also give tac access to power swords in 14.
Combined with his pyreblaster and auspex, you might be able to be such a damage factory.

>>2645382
>walking flaming power house
A Brother can hope...

>>2645382
It’s definitely possible. The Joytoy figure for Valius comes with a Power Sword, and they’re setting up a Victrix Chapter Champion set too.

>>2645332
Which is why I mentioned that they're going to need to make a new cooler helmet.

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>>2644347
>Exorcists chapter cosmetics pack

>>2645416
Nobody in this playerbase expected it, but it's a welcome surprise. The Exorcists are super underrated.

>>2645379
The pvp in sm2 is a lot straighter than the pvp in a lot of recent games, I guess because they made it fundamentally so traditional.

They should've had a separate team work on content for the pvp. They could've made chaos marines unique and not just reskins. They could've added pvp perks so you can make actual pvp builds, adding depth to the combat. They could've given melee combat more depth and made it viable beyond ground pound and shield rush spamming. Could've had more modes than TDM and three different flavors of king of the hill.

Adding a custom match mode alone with all of the customization of private matches but you can join them freely instead of needing specific invite codes would be a DRASTIC improvement, and would probably double or triple the lifetime of the pvp community.

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>>2645429
I for one am glad they will get their dediacted pack. I like Exorcists as much as Grey Knights. Designated Chaos-purging chapters are what I love.

>>2645439
enemy heavy activated iron halo. boom

>>2644435
>is minoris becoming a problem
following blow and good positioning
abuse the fuck out of the range and learn how they behave after a roll so you can always get the parry right after
or go assault and stomp their asses into the dirt

The fact that they said "maybe it's a Chaplain, maybe it's an Apothecary" tells me those classes are in the pipeline, they're just not next.

>>2645392
Not to mention, in terms of the bar they've set on balance philosophy, it would be fucking turbo retarded to give bulwark a melee weapon that deletes his amazing shield, heavy an underpowered primary weapon that isn't a super primary + all those fucking melee perks, and not give tac a melee weapon less or as powerful as the chainsword he already has. It's retarded he didn't have it at launch even, let alone got it by the time they gave those other classes fucking noobtraps.

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>>2644506
tyrannofex

>>2644347
>console mod support
If this ends with me being able to hook my poor ass up with astartes overhaul and the terminator class on ps5, then it doesn't get more based than this.

>>2645473
It could jumpstart that whole intitative from 2 years back with sm2g bros playing in larger groups. Very cool.

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We need a new difficulty

this game is too easy

>>2645374
May not be first priority, but we do.
Non snipers only get two non chapter specific capes, they're non customizable, basic as fuck, and the only difference between the two is color.
We need wider capes that go around one or both pauldrons, capes that go around the breastplate, capes that come with scarves, capes with severe battle damage/blood stains, etc.

>>2645488
It's called hard strat chaos missions.

>>2645488
We need a difficulty that doesn't just make enemies spongier, nor turns their moveset into a variety of one shots.
They should make a mode that keeps enemies squishier, but raises their spawn rates and/or raises spawn rates of higher tier enemy types. Are they afraid to spawn too many enemies in ops cause they're afraid people are gonna start seeing that siege memory issue in ops?

>join op
>don't even get to choose my class
>get vanguard automatically assigned to me
the fuck?

>>2645488
No game needs more than Easy, Medium and Hard. Anything else is a bloat and a result of powercreep and redundant RPG mechanics which are not needed in an Action game.

Cut down difficulty levels to those 3
Stratagems are no longer a separate game mode with 2 separate difficulties, just modifiers you can apply on basic 3 difficulties
Remove Prestige powercreep
All Perks are unlocked instantly, only highest tier weapons exist now and are instantly unlocked, 3 difficulties are rebalanced around everyone having access to all Perks and weapons now without a grind required, no need to punish noobs by making their characters weaker for no reason, it's not an RPG
Collapse Capture & Control and Seize Ground into one game mode in PvP
Integrate Campaign into Operations, those missions being wasted in dead game mode is retarded

Stop splitting playerbase around so many worthless game modes

The first one is the Absolvor Bolt Pistol, which will be the signature weapon of the upcoming new class. Sooo Chaplain, Apothecary or something else maybe?

The power fist is reasonably fun so far. Playing more melee, I also see why a lot of people dislike Chaos now. It's not so bad as a ranged class, but melee can get pretty stupid with meatball spam, Rubrics being so tanky and also having annoying melee attacks, and ranged terminators just hard counter you as a melee player. Oh, and of course, birds on discs.

I still find nids to be much harder to fight. At least CMs fire in intervals and switch to melee, but nid snipers and shotgunners just keep firing and firing and backtracking, even in melee range. And the barbed wire spam. Pure cancer.

>>2645835
what class?

>>2645835
Shotgunners are complete fucking nidders and really need a more generous melee range. They're bad enough in their normal state, but when they enrage, it's just not fun. Their damage is off the charts and a bunch of them are literally a bigger danger than most extremis or even terminus. However, nids majoris all have huge heads, so that effectively reduces their health.

Barbs and shotgunners are not that bad really. Annoying at times, but if you die to them, 9/10, that's a skill issue.

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>Carinfex's second slash doesn't register my block
Am I going insane or did vatniks break something again? I've tested it a couple of times in the arena and something's definitely off.

>>2645472
I still think they should make variants of the Helbrute and Carnifex so they come outfitted with different wargear/biomorphs

>>2646025
I wish they picked a different chaos warband and did that like crazy with their marine enemies.

I really want just a 30k esque faction to fight in this that's just a wide variety of chaos marines, with shit like cultist, daemon, and daemon engine forces ranging from supplementary to non existant.

In the next game, they should introduce another civil war, like the badab war, and have you fight a straight up separate space marine chapter. Either that or go full Transformers War For Cybertron and equalize chaos marine playability.
Would beat the shit out of echoing the first game again but worse. Orks had more personality than nids, and Nemeroth's non-specific chaos god worshipping warband had more potential than Tsons.

How do I get good at PVP?

>>2646431
Have the best intrawebs and always aim for the head, that's it

You will get mogged by Day -4 PvPers

>>2646431
Ambush, get nothing but headshots, grind the weapon unlocks 5 months before launch, have the internet speeds of an actual country and not bumfuck nowhere USA

>>2646431
if you have <1gbps internet and are in a non-usa or non-western yurop location you're practically fucked
all of your shots will miss because you'll be stuttering and will have delay
for whatever reason, saber will use the host's location as the main server for everyone so if the guy is in asia, south america, australia all of you will have 200+ ping
not a lot play pvp and those that do play helbrute mode

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>Double neuro spawns
>Teammates die
>Moving heaven and earth to get them respawned while two thropes throw staggered attacks at me in a narrow area
>They respawn behind the thropes
>They proceed to just leave

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>Helbrute spawns just as everyone hops in the elevator
>it fucking teleports into the elevator afterwards and begins attacking

Fucking bullshit

>>2645473
Wouldn't Sony be against this like in Bethesda mod support games?

>>2646431
Make sure your auto aim's set to default. And go for headshots with everything but plasma and melta as much as possible.

Stick with your team.

Flank. Have a plan for dealing with getting overwhelmed if you have to flank alone, like assault's jump pack, heavy's shield, sniper's cloak, etc. And have an escape route.

Stick to low celing areas such as the tunnels and interiors if there are high level ace assaults on the other team.

Bulwark should be shield rushing virtually constantly.

Vanguard and assault can take shortcuts and shoot from crow's nests the other classes can't access.

Sniper cloaks leave shadows, shimmer, and you can highlight them with tactical's auspex. You can also auspex scan people through walls.

Tactical's the only class that can hold two nades, and nades are the strongest weapon type in pvp.

Melee bypasses shields, but ranged dps on most guns is still generally faster, even with needing to eat through armor.

Power sword does more damage in power mode, and two shots with ground pounds in power mode too. The pause combo stunlocks and also one shots. The stunlock will shut down blocking and open them up for the one shot also.

Hammer charge attack one shots. And the hammer has the most ground pound range.

Axe is great against blocking.

Knife has the fastest combos.

Power fist lvl 1 charge attack two shots and stunlocks.

Chainsword I think charges the fastest when you ground pound?

Omni axe might have the fastest one shot move out of it, the power sword, and the thunder hammer.

>>2646798
Bethesda doesn't let mods through to console that have 3rd party assets in them, unless it's the shit they handpicked to be on there. I think they make you buy those mods with bethesda coins too.

Saber might handpick mods with 3rd party assets to put on consoles too, like the astartes mod stuff. They might even let you install those mods for free. If they don't, there's a good chance they'll get enough backlash to make them cave and make them free, considering how the voice/head pack debacle went.

>PVP
>opposing team pussies out only one afk guy is left.
>Sweet scramble to spawncamp as much as possible. Free win
>switches my team
>instalose

yeeeeee

>>2646902
I think it keeps your stats, just doesn't count what you earned on your first team towards the score of your new team. So you should at least keep your xp for your class and veterancy, which is a much worse grind than grinding for the cosmetics you unlock for winning ops and pvp matches.

The weapon skins you unlock aren't as good as the siege skins either imo.

>>2646835
Oh yeah, footsteps are audible through walls, and enemy footsteps are louder than friendlies.
You should be playing with good headphones on if you wanna get good at finding enemy players. You'll almost always hear people before you see them.

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>>2646626
>reclamation
>choose to proceed through the lower floor, while the other two are moving through top floor
>MASSIVE WAVE INCOMING
>the entire wave spawns on me
>they never stop and wonder why are they encountering 0 enemies
>they are confused at the gate wondering why i'm not there yet
It was fun desu, but only because no neuros spawned

>last 4 absolute quick plays i've spawned into the danger zone of a terminus fight
>tilts me every time
>join into a termination
>two absolutely retarded mongs
>game is fucking me so hard i am literally unable to talk shit

they really gotta do something about wall stuns
and the unending whip nidder combos that you just lose the ability to block / parry halfway through

>>2642002
>>2642062
Remember that dealing with chaos is all fun and games until they come to collect, it's all monkey paw shit

Chodes?

useless griefing melee niggers in hard strats holy shit im tilted

elaborate

>>2646431
Tap-fire your guns, never full auto unless it's at face range

Always try and peak corners from your right side, never your left, you are always at a major disadvantage on left peaks

How fun is the multiplayer? Any functional difference playing as chaos (the only based faction)

>>2647904
Classes are identical because it would be dump for them to have unique classes because that's a balancing nightmare. For the most part it's very well balanced, and it's like a manufactured time capsule of shooters from 2010.

sry brah i just wanted to try out something :) *leaves at wave 5*

say it with me: you love carrying shitter teammates and the thrill of soloing bosses gets you super hard

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>>2648003
No, I get a rush of beating a hard battle with all three of us left standing. The more stylish we are, the harder I get. Bonus points if we're all on a single pip of hitpoints as the last terminus dies.

>>2648003
sure. but i am the shitter teammate.

>>2648012
my post is mostly directed at PC faggots complaining about console players and their lack of skill
>>2648013
its ok ill carry you and i wont shit talk you... i will say nothing i promise. i dont care if you are new and/or a shitter

>>2647676
It's honestly Saber's fault, same with Hard Sieges. First, they don't codify the difficulty the same as in Ops. Normal and Hard suggest something like Average and Ruthless. Then, they bait people with doritos. I honestly don't get why they use these difficulty designators. Just call it Substantial and Absolute+ or something. Even just calling it Absolute despite it being harder would be an improvement. You'd still get a bunch of retards joining with unprestiged no-perk lvl 10 characters, but nowhere near as many, I'm certain.

Steam summer sale is on. I bought the game for a tenner when it was last on sale and have put in almost 200 hours, so I'm going to get some cosmetics now. Anything you recommend, brothers?

>>2648101
Hard siege mode waves 1-5 are just normal Absolute

They should be counted as absolute wins for cape grinds

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oh boy chaos exterminatus is finally coming back
and in a worse form 15 years later

>>2648154
No, fuck off with this dumb equivalence again, you autist.

>>2648155
gonna be harder because dreadnoughts have a full auto autocannon instead of a slow heavy plasma
a chaos terminator's autocannon is already raping normal players

>>2648170
somehow I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a loyalist enemy set

>>2648230
They need to make normal Terminators

Saber didn't make normal Librarians, even Leandros is just a talking head

So in Chaos siege you're just shooting a bajillion guardsmen and commissars, standard Spess Mehreens as Majoris, Terminators as Extremis and Redemptor Dreadnought as Terminus

>>2648118
I love the raven guard and dork angels champion skins. If you're really into the dress up part of the game you might as well just buy the season pass since it also adds lots of colors and chapter icons

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I want a Pyre Pistol!

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>>2648397
>7.3%
grim

Anyone up for comfy normal 15 siege?

>>2648447
Me, after I'm done with this one

>>2648447
Sure. EU?

>>2648447
region?

I'm genuinely afraid my pc will melt if i start playing vidya

>>2648490
If your cooling can't keep it below critical temps, you need to adjust your fan curves or invest in better cooling. It's not a PC if it can't run at full load regardless if it's 20 or 40° C in your room.

>>2648490
Undervolt your shit

>>2648501
This. It can easily save you a couple degrees, and your PCs power draw to boot.

Did Saber remove Deep Pockets from siege?

I've been playing 4 normal 15, 6 hard 15 and 2 hard 20 runs and I haven't encountered Deep Pockets once.

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I wonder what it would take for us to see Grigorenko (or any major Saber Dev for that matter) play the game live? So very few devs nowadays are scared to play their own games or outright don't care about it so they throw in whatever sticks and call it a day.

>do siege
>don't get doritos
Bravo, Saber.

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Whats the cap for the doritos?

>>2648686
1000. Don't spend it all at once Brother!

The Carnifex is hands down the worst Terminus enemy, I prefer fighting a boss than this fucker, between not being able to stagger it, the inconsistent attack speed in melee, and the machinegun mode that activates in half a second, it's just a bitch to deal with solo in close range
Oh and the fucked up hitboxes, how could I forget that

>>2648706
this is the worst take i've heard this year and it's probably going to stay like that for the rest of it

>>2648716
We're all allowed our takes and we don't tell others their takes are "bad" or "the worst" here, Anon. You can respectfully disagree, but you took it too far here. Please apologise to your brother.

t. Leandros

>>2648716
Good for you if you can deal with it easily brother, but for me a Hellbrute is a much simpler target in melee

>>2648743
helbrute is easy when there aren't any rocket terminators nearby

>>>/vg/571985243
It's shit.

>>>/vg/571985243
It's fun. Certainly worth the price on sale.

>>2648759
t-thanks you too

>>>/vg/571986270
we also have hardcore pornography which was commissioned for /sm2g/ by a thread regular but cowards never post it

>>>/vg/571985243
It's a great game, if you like it but not too much you will still probably play 100-200 hours, if you find out you REALLY like it you might end up at 900+ like I did

>>2648743
Helbrutes are easy targets, yes, but how do you rank the Carnifex below a Mutalith? After spending a few minutes in battle sim with it you'll get the hang of it and its melee attacks won't be any trouble anymore. Its ranged attack can be tricky and punishing, it's true, but compared to the Mutalith which has an orbital ion cannon shooting at you 24/7, turns your entire screen pink so you can't see anything while it's apestomping your face, I'd say the Carnifex is an infinitely more manageable target.

>>2648784
Oh, Emperor, no, the Mutalith is some nonsensical bullshit, but if I were to consider the Trygon or the Tyrant, I would rather fight those 1 on 1

How the fuck does shartide have a general but we dont? They get less content than sm2.

>>2648806
What do you mean, we have a general, who cares if it's on /vg/ or /vm/, I am liking it here
Think about it as if we built our Fortress Monastery at the fringes of the galaxy

>>2648806
recurring schizo meltdowns.
our schizos ran out of steam long ago, and ritualposting kills your soul in the long run

>>2648806
They just got a new class and ostensibly it's a co-op game general that focuses on whatever is FOTM
I'm sure a "Space Marines" thread that allows discussion of all the games in the series would survive on /vg/, like if you guys wanted to discuss how bullshit the difficulty ramp is in Chaos Gate

>>2648806
/vg/ is actually a fast board, /sm2g/ died multiple times.

It only came back because of the major update.

>>2648806
darktide is harder, so autists neets can shitpost all day

>>2648806
We have a general, it's just here because we don't ritualpost so we can't keep up. We don't have a dedicated schizo, we don't have a dedicated coom poster etc.