EARLY ACCESS OUT NOW BE THERE OR BE QUEER!What server you playin'?https://strawpoll.com/YVyPvGw5BgNWhat class you rolling bish?https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQo1pvn4What race?https://strawpoll.com/bVg8B9jEeyYHow many subs?OVER 26K https://account.monstersandmemories.com/metricsstale: >>3019094
I CANT LOG IN shits speaking japanese at me
>pov EU server
EU GUILD IS ACTIVE, POST A PIC OF YOUR FUCKING NAME OR SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO JOIN. OP IS A FAGGOT FOR NOT INCLUDING ANY INFO.
looks like some slutty goblin missed the boat...
>>3038241>I can hear the see but I'm stuck on a loading screen .......I'm super fucked,
>>3038250>Sea*>Spelling error AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>3038239im level 3 can i join
>log in>chop some wood>server crashes after a minute>log back in>chop more wood>server crashes again>repeat foreverLiterally can't hold all this wood and sap right now.
>>3038267of course!stay away from those two freaks if you don't want to get molested though
so who all is kos to what and where? someone told me goblins just die if they go up to nightharbor? are gobbos truly unwelcome
THE FUCKING BOAT IS GONE.THIS IS NOT HOW WEDONEINEQ
>>3038276if it's not seething just continue on, worked for me.
>>3038279we do that in eq
is the server unstable or something
>servers fucking themselveswe do that in eq
FIX IT
When will the meat learn its place? They should all stay in the foreign quarter where they belong.
>I got on the boat after falling through it
Where my pvp anons at? Let's start <Sandwich Eaters>
Yeah sure just mog me I don't mind.
>>3038279this quite literally is how it do in eq. the boats randomly not working is quintessential. boats dropping you in the ocean is eqcore. boats leaving you at the zoneline is eqcore. jumping off the boat for money in a selfgrief is eqcore. waiting for the boat for an hour to find out it literally just stopped existing? the most eq thing eqer.
>>3038338>eqernice
>>3038276If you're concerned then hit C and read. If you see>seethes at youthen it's gonna attack if you get too close.
How do I get faction with AV as a goblin? I want inside
>>3038368gotta suck and fuck cultists.
>>3038366>a united statian mutt copes and seethes at your BBC, ready to attack
this isnt fair
>>3038373Anon. It's time to touch some grass. You need at least two weeks holiday from 4chan.
>>3038373Good morning saar
>pov you missed the boat
>>3038317Reminder if you dont play pvp you have to "play nice." I cant imagine anything more cucked than that
>>3038422> cuckedDoes it make you cope and seethe?
>>3038422>pvpI dont wanna play with all 12 of you rangers.Cause you are gayer than gay.
>>3038422The pvp is the most cucked play nice server in this game. If you make anyone mad you are forever blacklisted and ganked by parties.
>>3038272If you find something in the game that is broken, please report it and do not use it to CRASH THE SERVER THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE times. Or at all.
Nonnies on my server
>>3038486>ogre named Chrisfarleyhehe
>>3038478Not true at all.
>>3038486I thought they changed name to 'We don't do that in EQ"?
>>3038583>changed nameWe don't do that in EQ
I wonder how many that tried M&M went back to P99 already
>giant fucking map>doesnt tell me how to get to docksi know im retarded but am i blind too
>>3038616mentally ill ones did
>>3038626are you fucking retarded? twilight harbor and it even says boat to keeper's bight
>>3038616Not many. It's been hovering 500 give or take since launch, down from around 1k.The people that continuously play p99 are likely not going to quit mnm a week in, I think when next month rolls around and it's time to pay again, people who are at the high 30s/low 40s and left to camp dungeons might go back to do a slightly larger variety of shit.
>>3038648how do those take me to underdocks HUH
>>3038626can you enter the palace? is there anything in there?
>>3038616we went from 5k to 25k subs in 2 weeks, if they did they did
>>3038658to sewers
>>3038657I'm probably not even gonna be 30 by next month. I wish I had the time to play this game more. Having limited play time and being a newbie is suffering.
>>3038658Underdocks is follow the south road going east into the bends then turn north and you'll find a gateway in the wall under the palace that goes into the Underdocks.
>>3038674it's not like there's a pot of gold waiting at 60 anyway
>>3038674I moreso just mean eq players aren't going to quit this fast, but paying for a slow experience that is very much still incomplete is different than a free pserver, so feelings may change when it comes time.>>3038683yeah there's one serious raid and a handful of dungeons 45-60, it's pretty light right now.
>>3038667is it fun lying to me you cunt
>>3038699would a 4chins poster really lie?don't go there
>>3038674What's the rush, nigger? There's nothing to do at 60 anyway. Take your time and play on the PvP server for real emergent gameplay.
>>3038681something also tells me you are lying to me too
>>3038720I'm not. Don't die.
>>3038720that is the correct way, it's just deep chuds being slaughtered trying to escape to surface
>>3038720he's not. But there are a couple of aggro enemies, but most will just be weary. There's lots of safe paths to NH entrance but the UD entrance trek is more dangerous. Just be cautious.
>almost 2s + claw that's worth 50cI'M IN THE MONEY!
>>3038721>>3038723>>3038744thanks bros i have bypassed the necromancer
>>3038748>200 nukes at lvl 22I rolled the wrong class...
>>3038748yeah pretty much anything that drops cash direct is the only worthwhile farm. It's insane how hard inflation is gonna hit.
>>3038744>There's lots of safe paths to NH entranceare there one way exits to NH? or am i being retarded again.
>>3038771>one-way exitsnow i'm imagining an Everquest metroidvania>jboots to cross greater distances because of momentum>fishbone earring for water levelswhat other items would be relevant in an EQ 'vania?
>male/female>using the correct pronoun for the character's sex is trivial to code>everything is they/themthat's not how EQ did it
>>3038771There's one exit from UD, but I mean the path you can travel from that UD exit to NH, there are safe paths that keep you well away from necro aggro range, by hopping the rooftops or doing the side road.
>>3038820okay i am indeed more retarded than previously thought possible t hank you
>>3038818everquest had a symbol you could type " %s " to print out the targets sex. it only provided "he", "she" and "it".
Does Underdocks have a set of armor quests, or are we "sharing" scarab armor with the filthy topsiders?
>>3038845Nothing unique to UD, you either go AV for gungus, or go NH for beetleslop
>>3037741mmo boomers are the SA goons of video games
>>3038818Which is body type A, and body type B?
>>3038881i am protected
Camping a level 10 named mob while eating a sandwich.
>>3038748Wait there's claws in this game other than the beastmaster starting weapon?
>>3038762Either money will be so worthless that it won't be used to trade or it's gonna be one of those games where noobs can't ever afford anything because everything is too expensive and anything that still has value is camped.
>>3038909Well, a supermajority of anything WORTH owning right now is from NMs. People haven't discovered recipes for utilizing mob parts to craft, so the 300 req tailoring and smithing shit is enchanted which is BARELY better than level 30 nm drops. I'm sure once those recipes are found, shit will still be valuable. I just don't think actual currency will hold any worth, hyperinflation is already here, people have tens or hundreds of gold already because mobs drop silver in stacks of fucking 10 at level 25.
>>3038909Beta ran for months. As someone that got in during it's last month I had no trouble getting into the economy. If anything, people overpaid for the most common shit, like ore/logs/whatever.I think it'll be fine
>>3038903it's the kind of claw you sell to the cook
add me up for any EU guild invites
>>3038945Punt looking like an ABSOLUTE UNIT
Blacktide BayWhile you guys are packed in AC and Wyrms like sardines this place is mostly empty.
>>3038945why do dwarves in this game like this
>>3038967like what?
>>3038962welcome :)
>>3038962That place is always empty on EU though. Literally leveled in there for 2 days completely alone with my party
>>3038962Pedro with the xboxhueg chat text
>>3038975i am an old man with bad eyesight
>>3038945maor liek CUNT
where is the other free bag in underdocks besides the one you hail the guards for?-
>>3039016Free bags in the EU guild
>>3039019i already have my ping spike to 300+ on na im not sure i can handle eu.
>>3039022the servers have been dying since this weekend, everywhere's getting that stuff, right now.
sheet can't even find a group for bm on trem anymore
cleansing the slums of NH!
>>3039037>Nihilum
>>3039037put your spellbar(vertical) on the top left of the screen or ELSE
as a level 10 necro where should I be going as I level? I'm doing the skeletons in the underdocks right now but I'm gonna outgrow them pretty fast. What's next for like, 15+?
wizard dual wield is such an awesome concept, it reminds me heavily of elden ring's spellsword or Gandalf's sword+ staff meleethe wizard casts an arcane missiles that look like glintstones.
>>3039080at one point wizard was supposed to gandalfmax but we don't do that in eq and it stepped too much on spellblades's shoes so the melee mechanics were removed and dw was left in as a relic
will this game have the manaburn mafia holding rare named hostage? we did that in eq
>>3039106manaburn is too modern for the REAL eq
>>3039106potentially, I think that only really starts to occur down the line when a larger portion of the playerbase is at specific levels and need that item.Currently people aren't really engaging with NMs on the whole, it's a very very tiny number of players who know about these systems, about placeholders, etc.
>>3039101Current wiz is closer to wow than EQ (pbuh). Original design was closer to WQ, but people remembered how much shit it felt like to have your nuke resisted after meditating for 3 minutes.
>>3039113NM = named mob?
>>3039121named monster, notorious monster, from FFXI (for me personally).
>>3039106mob hp is much MUCH higher than in eqevery 10 levels there's like 100% boots on average hp
>>3039128we call them named in eq
where do i get crushed malachite in undercocks?
>>3038962How do I get there? I'm 17 and I need to move on to new camps.
>>3039129this happened in eq but it was at like level 40/50. they just omega inflated mob stats around 50.
>>3039132too much typing, we don't do that in eq
>>3038486>ChrisFarleybased.
>>3039128what is named in moonrunes?
>NMswhen did this enter the nomenclatureI only ever saw them called 'nameds'. It's one syllable and short enough that it never needed shortening further. Hell, NMs is two syllables, making it longer to say...
>>3039149ffxifag speak
>>3039016You can get an 8 slot box from M something in the room that's next to the quartermaster. Ask her about research. You can't complete that quest if you didn't start in UD so just keep the box.
>>3039149its from gookgrinders
>>3039149>namedsThat sounds retarded, I hate itI use NM whenever I can and just tell the EQ fags it stands for Named Mob
>>3039149it's also dumb because "nm" is already used for "nevermind"
>>3039167No, that's "nvm"
>>3039148ノートリアスモンスターeveryone just says nmhnm (high level NMs, world bosses colloquially) are ハイレベルNM
>>3039167low test take, wrong, back to red.dit
>>3039174damn that's pretty long
Post battlestations with M&M Open or UI's edition soon bros, bonus points for fleshlights on desks
>>3039164No one cares what you think weeb. That's how we do it in EQ (America).
>>3039195yeah, exactly why nm took off there.
>>3039174>have symbols for words>don't have a symbol for the concept of "proper noun"really?
>>3039200>EQ (America)Good thing I'm on the EU server
>>3039208That's just an American colony
>>3039195jappy knees is a very efficient language until you have to add a loanword and you have to literally swap to retarded children-tier writing (an alphabet) at which point i guess it's easier to just switch to using the latin alphabet and writing out an acronym you don't realize is already taken in the english language ("nevermind")presumably korean and chinese function nearly the same
>>3039208>speaks english in the EU despite England not being part of it anymoreeurosister...
>>3039206because that's "notorious"."named" didn't exist as a concept for MMOs there. Notorious Monsters came from wizardry, long before eq even got a jap localization, so that's what FF11 adopted. 'named' has always been nm even in jap eq because that's just what big bad special monster has always been in their terminology.linguistics are a fascinating field.
i dont know what to grind at 16...
I don't think I've ever seen someone use 'nm' as nevermind. even in aol chatrooms 30 years ago that was nvm
>>3039235Grind what you were grinding at level 15 until you learn, through conversation with others, what to grind at level 16.Of course, by then you'll probably be level 18.
>>3039243wtf no it wasnt fuck off bearenstein nigga
>>3039243imagine just going into an mmo thread on 4chan and lying
>>3039254>>3039245show proof, should be easy to find bbs posts if everyone was doing it right?
are bats dropping cooked meat because im killing them with a fire spell ?
>>3039254nevermind was always nvm
>>3039264yes
>Burnt skeleton summon doesnt scalewhat the FUCK is the point of this thing
>>3039264yes. Things killed with specific spells or effects active can add modifiers to their loot table, add items, or remove items.If you kill skeletons with a fire spell you get charred remains (a quest item for necros).
>>3039276heh
>>3039215It's not like english doesn't reuse acronyms frequently, just look at all the zoomers who think any use of "CP" must be some secret cheese pizza code. It should be pretty obvious that someone doesn't mean "nevermind" when it is used in the middle of a sentence.
>>3039280the buff it gives your group
Thinking about making a cleric on the pvp server for my rape fantasies.
>>3039295join <Sandwich Eaters>
>today i will go on the internet and tell lies
>3039307>he trusts the machine
What classes are the most in demand for groups right now?
>clogsucker
>>3039313archers get snatched up rq. never seen one have to ask more than once for a group
>>3039313chanter and tank
Underdocks.....home
so underdocks are neriak?
>>3039325fuck off nigger elf
>>3039341nah underdocks is underground district of NH for chud racesnuneriak is it's own city
>>3039060The smuggler wererat house at the overreach is quite nice xp for like 10-14 if you wanna group up. It also gives night harbor reputation.Don't really know what's after that.
>>3039342thats nigger GNOME to you buddy
>>3039323>chanterOnly class that will reduce your kill speed through their insistence on charming.
>>3039352oh it's the troon gnome
>>3039355charming in groups is not a thing anymore
i can't name my dwarf Brick Shithouse :(
Does rich veins share spawn points with regular ones?
>>3039101They could have reworked spellblade to be gandalf tbhon
>>3039386Spellblade is p awesome tbqhfamalam. It's their most original and actually fun to play class and it's slept on hard because we didn't do that in EQ.
>>3039396Agreed. Feels like they sat down and said "let's make a fantasy version of a jedi" and came up with it.
>>3039215Nobody uses "nm" for "nevermind". I has always been nvm.
>>3039411How many digits was your ICQ number?
>>3039378yeah they do
>>3039411its either and always has been
>>3039396it's more that its sat on because it was absolute fucking dogshit until a week before release when they reworked it from being a shitty rotational class with a bazillion buffs to something using stances.
is it just me or is casting total dogshit in this gamethe movement detection lags by several seconds so even after you stop moving it breaks your cast, and sometimes shit doesnt even go through, not even a fizzle it just doesnt register the cast happened or not
>>3039455Do you work your camera by holding right click a lot? I had been thinking this about the movement detection for a while because of my bow shot getting interrupted, turns out it was because rotating with rmb interrupts it.
>>3039455we do that in eq
>>3038881STAIRS LOL
>>3039455It's not great, but I will say a lot of hte pain points right now are the servers absolutely shitting themselves. I have to attempt to do pretty much everything involving a menu 2-3 times and even then it takes 400-500ms. Casting has been fucked for me, buht when it WAS working, my larger issue was that channeling does nothing. If you get hit you just get hit and that's it you can't resist it and lose your cast, but it still channels the whole way, it blows.
>>3039287Zoomerspeak is so retarded that it wouldn't surprise me if they used "nm" in the middle of a sentence to disregard what they wrote so far because they are too lazy to delete that part
>>3039321do archers pull or something? why are they desired in a party?
>>3039325I took that screenshot the other day.
>>3039425I used IRC.
>>3039439>it's more that its sat on because it was absolute fucking dogshit until a week before releaseThat was wizard. Spellblade rework came ages ago.
>>3039439incorrectspellblade was top dog both before and after revamppeople literally just don't play it because that's not how we do it in eq
Anyone knows where the blacksmith/smelter in Underdocks is located?
>>3039586go up two floors in the citadel, should eventually run into a sign saying where forge row is
>>3039586top of citadel.there's no ingot molds there, so you won't be able to actually smelt anything.
If we don't actually get deep gnome bards in this next patch I'm going to unsub.
>>3039527I was joking
>>3039598why?
>>3039602why not?
>>3039598incredibly rude
>>3039603archers deserve bullying sometimes
>>3039603can't you just like be helpful and not lie all the time?>>3039606why?
Why did groups stop getting formed for blind midden?
>>3039610because we don't do archers in eq
>>3039596this weekend is probably just more fixes and minor balance tweaks and shit.
>>3039603touche
>>3039611Everyone evacuated from AV. I kinda wanted to go back for the higher level section. Never got to see much of that. Still have to figure out who in there wants those coins you get from turning in the corpses from nameds.
It would be so kino if AV was as shitty as it is now, but, once you gain full favor and status, becomes the best capital city in terms of amenities, convenience, and prices. They would never do this thoughbeit
>>3039606especially if they are elves and especially if they are female
>>3039621fug I don't want to leave av until my enchanter quest is fixed>Still have to figure out who in there wants those coins you get from turning in the corpses from namedsIt's some deep gnome up a later, summons a named, got a belt bag from it
>>3039281I want a fire enchant on my fishing rod
>another group grinding down on another roofSOVL overload
>>3039658I haven't seen anyone figure out how to do weapon enchantments for damage types, yet. I'm sure there's a way.
>>3039666>can see spell effects of another group down the cliffSovlmaxxing
>>3039596makes no sense lore-wise.
>>3039681weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee resemble but are legally distinct from the lollipop guild, the lollipop guild
>>3039666are the bend mobs lvl ~20?
>>3039690ones we fight are blue to me at 23
>>303969020+.
ARE YOU CALLING ME FAT!
>>3039653Blind or whatever his name was? I think we tried giving coins to him.
>>3039693Guess im not doing that platinum mark quest thing soon
Alright, I'm gonna make a deep elf and try out this CBT zone.Inquisitor, Monk, or Spellblade?
>>3039719Inqs are sick and I'm somehow seeing them MT every group I join
I want to play archer but archer animations suck so I'm waiting on them to rework the animations because I'm autistic like that. Human male is about the only one who has a passable bow animation and stance.
>>3039719Spellblades and wizards get the worst house quest so they are the most CBT experience. Don't vendor perfect or strong mushroom parts.>>3039722They are tanks.
>>3039727Yes, I'm just saying that I don't think I've grouped with a fighter or SK once
>>3039281>spellcucks just get extra money for freereeeeeeeeee
>>3039763what the fuck lmao
>>3039763if you go the shaman guild there's a guy with a dog pet, tell him cleanse me and he cures i
>>3039763Put on a mask so you won't infect anybody else
So factions DO actually do shitI spent some time spamming ashira warrior bracer quest, got up to comrade, and now when I hail a steel talon guard they buff me with berserker.that's pretty cool.
>>3039808Nice. I'm comrade with them and a few other factions in NH
I kinda don't want normies to know about our game. I want them to be filtered and for the average shitbox butt pirates to flock to WoW forever with their homo streamer friends.
is spider silk just a 1copper trash item to everybody but players?
>>3039840You can vendor it to specific tailors for like 2c.But if you spin two of them in a tailor kit/loom it turns into a 13c item to tailors/leatherworkers, and it only requires like 15 tailor to be trivial. Definitely worth doing, even if you lose like 20 silks before hitting triviality.
>>3039848ah so this is why underdarkies are so mad
>>3039852spider silk is basically the cheap way to get your tailor up to almost 100. You can make the items with just cloth and silk, so no forced vendor reagents, and they sell for like 50c then 2s then 4s for tunic. Very easy money and progress on the tradeskill.
>>3039858>>3039852oh and it also scales to 300 with the higher level versions, so rugged/wool and sturdy/linen. It's kinda crazy that shit exists at all, it trivializes the entire tradeskill. I wonder if smithing has something similar. Probably fasteners.
>>3039823the biggest normies streamer cohhcarnage is playing it so a bit late for that, doesn't matter though since WoW Forever will change all of that here soon
>>3039869cohh's guild has less than 30 people in it, most people are not interested in trying mnm out, and that's okay. It's probably going to have a dedicated userbase of a few hundred dudes by this time next year (maybe a thousand, but monthl sub kind of precludes that)
>>3039823>normie>us
>>3039874for so little these fucks seem to constantly be on my viewing apparatus
>>3039881because you're seeing the same few people, there's only 5 clusters hosting every player on a server, there's never more than 3k people online at once, it's EXTREMELY common to run into the same people especially for how small the world is, and how similar in level everyone is right now.
i tried to swim across the underdock river to get to the better side with less people in the newbie yardi alt tabbed and got kidnapped by the boat and now im being smuggled for over 15 minutes
>>3039905if ypu /petition a gm will save you
join the EU server!
>>3039281so it has to be the finishing blow or does it have like a grace period of the last 6 seconds before it died
>>3039933I haven't experimented much, I only noticed it after I was obliterating shit with one shot with fireblast. I know deepcut bandits have a fear effect drop.
>game looks fun and interesting>but I'm also not a 40+year old grognard pining for the days of EQis there anything here for me? Some of the stuff I here about seems like a frustrating waste of time that they didn't streamline because muh hardcore old school games
>>3039281you get taught this by the Spellblade class quest up in Night Harbor. i thought that was cool.
>>3039916>be on EU server>grinding undead mobs on a cliffside in fallen pass>c*venant SK tank with a 20second reaction time>spends more time afk than actually tanking>invites his necro friend to replace a dps>necro joins the group and after 20min finally comes to the spot>3 pulls later he falls down the cliff and kills himself>he falls on an awkward ledge that's hard to get to>recovering it will probably take an hourJOIN THE EU SERVER!
>>3039971do you want to spend all your time barely progressing and looking for groups? do you want shit to make no sense because eq did it that way?
>>3039971Depends on your tolerance for stupid shit. I unironically think the 1-15 is probably one of my favorite game starting experiences in any MMO I've played in the last 10 years. Partially biased due to the recency of release, but I think that part will hold up.If you want a fully fleshed out game with a proper endgame and goals to work towards, fuck no, this game is barren as shit the higher you get, and really falls apart in the 40s/50s.If you can get behind some deliberate incongruity like using mud commands (but only for like, the starter class quests, then it's NEVER used again for anything ever and regular clicks does it all), you might have fun.$15 is also insane ask though so I'd wait for either a discount period or a free weekend, which as far as I can tell the devs said they intend to continue doing.>>3039972a lot of quests reference it, but it seemed like fluff/flavor to me and not an actual thing.
>>3039981>3 pulls later he falls down the cliff and kills himselfdoing gods work
>>3039981we do that in eq
>>3039984I don't and that's mostly what I'm worried about. >>3039986I think I have a low tolerance but I'm not really looking for any endgame anything. I just see a lot of cool classes and races I want to try out and have fun with.
how are those wallets looking like?
>>3039916Weird seeing a screenshot with a familiar name on it.
>>3040020You may have some difficulty with 'trying things out' to a degree you like. It's a few hours to get to level 10~ which is where you actually have most of your classes unique shit, or at least the basic version of it.Probably skip, honestly.
>>3039938>I know deepcut bandits have a fear effect drop.What do they drop then?>>3039986>I unironically think the 1-15 is probably one of my favorite game starting experiences in any MMO I've played in the last 10 years.It's because nowadays it's totally normal to not meet any resistance or adversity from a game for the first 20+ hours of playing it while this game gives you that at level 1.
>>3040020>I think I have a low tolerancethis is not the game for you man. you are going to be fighting the archaic systems, game design and the most retarded players you cant even imagine.
>>3040021i cant afford my level 4 spells bwo. i feel like im missing some repeatable quest in night harbor to make buku bux
>>3040039they drop a special variant of their hand for the necro starter quest finale. It converts the regular bounty hand into a "frightened deepcut bandit hand".
>>3039981Covenant quickly becoming a guild to avoid.>>3040020>I just see a lot of cool classes and races I want to try out and have fun with.It's the best time to try it out. We don't know if they will be making enough money to finish this. People will cope about it being a volunteer project but that is total bullshit. If the money dries up development will slow to a crawl if not stop entirely. Right now the servers are up and low level areas have plenty of people.
>>3040040>>3040032probably rightI'll keep an eye out for free weekend/trial whatever stuff to poke my head in later
>>3040048>repeatable questi sure as hell hope those 2 are sleeping right now and dont see this
>>3040064just imagine every time something seems stupid backwards asinine and time wasting for no point an army of opiate addicted boomers whispering in your ears that you are spoiled and we did it that way in eq and then the devs do the same thing to explain why you have to click 14 different buttons to mine a rock.
>>3040048nah, if a repeatable quest rewards anything other than rep it's an exploit to repeat it and will get you banned
>>3040079my underdock friend is cashmogging me and this is not okay
>>3040085then go down there with himAnyway the NH quests are arguably better value prop because you can kill ashira, get their bracers, turn those in for rawhide items (to either patch and sell or just c ut and sell the scraps). it's significantly faster than killing shrooms and better money ultimately. deepcuts beat it out though.
>>3039971streamlining everything like modern mmos fucking suck. hope an action house never gets added
>>3040093patch?
>>3040085>>3040093Just get to 10 and group up to farm wererats for a couple of hours. You will have silver.
>>3040111Any of the "tattered" or "corroded" or etc items can be repaired with the scraps you get for breaking them down, which increases their AC/damage, and also their sell value.
>>3040115Why is there no blacksmiths selling fixed up corroded stuff? All I ever see is the corroded stuff on merchants.
>>3040120because it requires pliers and you to go to a forge to break the shit down, versus leather/tailored items which can be broken down with a seam ripper in your inventory in the field.
>>3040115how do i break such things down? sorry for being retarded and not knowing what to look for on the wiki.
I'm tempted to make a deep elf enchanter, disguise myself as a human at level 4, go to that populated camp outside the bank, soulbind myself and remove the illusionI should liter the place with a thousand corpses
>>3040128for rawhide/cloth items you need either a tailor kit or leatherworker kit (I don't remember what it's called) and an item called a "seam ripper". the kits and seam ripper are like 1s~ each.put the seam ripper in one slot, the equipment item in the other, click the sew/craft button, and you break the item down into component scraps.Note, you lose money this way. You will not get as much money from breaking down as you would selling. The entire point is to get more material to train your craft or free up space in the field by stacking the scraps.
>>3040141thanks anon
>>3038945Can I achieve this natty?
>>3040124Well they haul them back to vendor so wouldn't it be worth fixing some up for selling to players? Haven't really even seen the fixed up rusty weapons being sold.
>>3040157rusty is not corroded.rusty is the lowest tier junk cannot be repaired unless you're talking rusty steel which can be repaired with steel scraps.corroded, tarnished, etc can be.People probably don't know you can cause it's not posted on the wiki. Literally every single person I've met, even the spergs talking about "well I played the beta for a year" don't know basic shit like how you don't need a static craft station at all for any recipe unless it 7+ different items (only seen one recipe for this and it was an alchemy pot). You can just stack the shit in one slot and it counts for all items.
>>3040170no grindstones for rusty weapons?... we did that in eq...
>>3040174you can use grindstones on them, you just can't repair/patch them.
>>3040170Didn't rusty used to turn into tarnished? I'm pretty sure those were called tarnished when I played before the beta.Also there's plenty of corroded stuff on the vendors that buy weapons.
>>3040188that sharpening stone doesn't exist anymore, we have jagged/weightstones which function as a buff and don't change weapon archetype.
>>3037445>Shouldn't it be a dynamic system where the guard is aware of his rough position and the position of key locations in the city so he can give an accurate direction. On top of that it would be pretty obvious to tell the player that the underdocks gates are in the north to help them figure out north.These are volunteer boomer coders who genuinely not even as good as Claude vibecoding everything. The more you learn about their systems, the more you realize that they are literally retarded and have no idea how to design their vision for the game, so they just default to making it be "like eq" and getting a GM to enforce everything else (see mob 'killstealing')
does anyone buy bat teeth for more than 1cp
>>3040233cook
>>3040233no it's a beastmaster quest item.
>>3040237doesnt seem to for me>>3040238thank you
>>3040244Butchers buy less stuff than cooks. You can usually find a cook at the kitchen of an inn.
the merchant system here is by far the best I have seen in any mmo, being able to get ebin looties that some clueless scrub has sold to used armor merchant is based as fuck
>>3040218tbf Shawn was the lead designer for EQ during PoP so he at least knows what he's doing
>>3040614The absolute fear of deleveling
>>3040614>2kb
just try to catch me now bishes
>>3040712hank kill ass
There's an arena in the upper part of AV, is there a chance they'd add inconsequential pvp? Did eq have that?
>>3040733Yes
>>3040733there's already arena in NH too, it's just a free for all pit, there's not gonna be any minigames
Where to solo at level 8? I'm at west gate and tired of waiting for a party.
>>3040756Make your own group
>>3040712Wait is this really 5 min snare?Can it break?Did we do that in eq?
>>3040769Can a group of 8s go to Wyrmdungeon? I'm an idiot and healer cuck so I'm scared.
>>3040787Wyrmsbane has mobs from level 4-15, you just have to find a spot that you can handle.If that's full, which it will be if you're on trem, then try some of the bandit camps in shaded dunes or the bigger ashira camps.Just make a group, explore camps, go on an adventure, die horribly and make friends.
>>3040170>>3040174You ungrateful niggers, I literally wrote the wiki page for rusted/tarnished and I'm going to do the same with corroded when I can.https://monstersandmemories.miraheze.org/wiki/Newbie_Weapon_Ratiosspread this around, bwos
>>3040188>>3040182>>3040198Sharpening Stones absolutely still exist and so do Tarnished weapons. You need fish oil and stones to make em.See: >>3040871>>3040756The best camp at that level that I've found is just the homeless goblins at the docks. Stayed there until I was like 13
>Trem Underdocks still unplayably laggy Maybe I should just go roll on East 2.
>>3040557Isn't he the guy who talked about how the gameplay is supposed to be playable while eating a sandwich or somethingWhy would you ever want a guy like that on your development team?
>>3040806>start running there>get 2 invites>sitting in some dungeon room with a named mob with a party>too scared to try things cause don't wanna die and run back
>>3040886Sandwich gameplay is a selling point
Okay I don't want to party in Wyrmsbhgshg anymore...
>>3040903To who?
>>3040937Me, I love being comfy with da bois and literally eating dinner while exping, it's why I rolled wiz
>>3040937Dad gamers.
>>3040954I'm a dad gamer though...
>>3040887bro your invisibility cantrip????
>>3040969I'm a Cleric I don't have one...
>>3040974Don't Clerics get Invisibility to Undead? I'm positive Paladins do and I thought Clerics did too
>weather doesn't sync in adjacent zoneswoops
>>3040996>rains on my road>does not rain on the next blockSometimes weather does not sync in real life.
>>3041001how does that boot taste?
>>3041003o.O
I kind of enjoy not having any night vision and being led around by people who do… hehehe
>>3040995Wait you're right....
As predicted...>party pulls a lot of mobs>no cc or hate>i cure once and they all aggro me>kill me>can't run back to body>they just sitting at camp deep in WB
>>3041050>he grouped
>>3041051This giant dude bullied everyone to go back tot he entrance and escort me. Good lad.
am i gonna regret the shaman pill
>>3041070yes
>>3041073am i gonna regret the druid pill
>>3041074no
>>3041075are you the dudu guy
>>3040954i wish i was a dad...
>>3041078maybe
>>3041080shaman and trem it is then
>camping in WB>homie in the party died (nobody noticed lmao rip)>was able to use redemption on him>everyone clapped
if you dont have a 3 or 4 letter name you arent worth respect
Literacy crisis affecting gamers now.
>>3041097i wasn't really him
>>3041114Not all of us are ogres
>>3039763in eq it was only 3 hours and 24 minutes....
>>3040887>partying for 3 hours>added leader as a friend>he made me leader>people laughing at my jokes I-I made friends..?
>>3041070Shamen are mid tier soloers but they have great heals and buffs so they never have trouble getting groups
>>3041244unfortunately i have to afk a lot, i assume i should just pick necro or druid? idk what else solos well
>threw away a quest itemIs there a way to get it back from the NPC? It was some piece of paper with items to collect...
>>3041230You planted some seeds. Make sure to cultivate it and it will indeed sprout into friends.
what is command to change party leader?
if you are a spellcaster does it theoretically make sense to swap out your trainees book for a regular spell book so that you could give it away to someone else if you were ever going to quit?
>>3041246Enchanter and Bard also solo well but are still desired by groupsElementalist is also an option if you just wanna blast stuff with your pet and go afk for a bit and come back to full mana
>>3041293I don't know if there's a text command but iirc it's an option if you right click someone's name in the party member menu
>>3041307how does bard solo well in this game? like what are they doing.
>>3041309where do i see the party member menu?
>>3041311i assume its due to charm, same as enchanter
>>3041316You should be able to just click on the list. I don't think there's a separate menu.
I love my dwarf character, but this fat bitch plows through food so fast you'd think I chose Architect as deity.
how is UD? im gonna make a human necromancer and cant decide between NH and UD.They share banks right?
>Farm a bunch of rat heads for turn ins>Turns out theres a max level on the quest and he stops taking themFucking why? Its an uncommon drop and only gives you 50 copper>>3041438UD is way less crowded
>>3041453i just go to the elf place when i start in NH, but im wondering if UD is any good or if its awful
>>3041454UD is pretty good unless you wanna do professions, then its fuckedalthough I'm a chud gnome with ultravision, no clue how it is for humans
Where is the ENC guild guy in NH? Map says he's in the same place as the INQ and SPB guys but I don't see him anywhere>>3041438Comfy, good luck as a human though. I heard you can't see shit down here without ultravision. Bank is shared.
my summoned biscuits say made in china
Can I somehow turn this into rawhide scraps?
>>3041499Yeah, you need to go learn tanning and go to a tanning station (buckets and a rack).
is loot FFA in a party? what's the etiquette? i know about autosplit for coin
>>3041507I've only ever been able to turn it into rawhide canvas that way
>>3041511Oh whoops did not read in enough detail. I think scraps just come from drops and seam ripping tattered drops?
>>3041518>seam rippingWhat? How do I do that?
>>3041508I like turn-based looting, because it keeps the melee from looting fucking everything and keeps the casters medding if appropriate. Now will we have a system for this? I do not know. The ultimate display of communism, would be everybody gets their own randomized version of loot no matter who does the looting. Kind of like that too.
>>3041520Go to a tailor, buy a tailoring kit (the pouch) and a seamripper (dagger), put the dagger in the kit with the thing you want to destroy then hit the sew button on the kit window
>>3040058Pservers will save it.
>>3041508loot everything you can until you get told to stop, at which point follow the groups established looting rules
>>3040878>>3040871those are jagged stones not sharpening stones, as sharpening stones were removed in september. they do not work in the way you're thinking, but feel free to waste your time and try.
i am not satisfied with the race options for Beastmaster. Lizard and Troll may qualify but damn.. I've been hoarding loot for a character that doesn't exist yet and I'm not happy about it. Ogres are cool but I don't want to play one, and Deep Gnomes are somehow also candidates. The hell!
>>3041230>>3041286That's how it starts. Suffering together builds bonds.
>>3040871>and I'm going to do the same with corroded when I can.Cool and please do. >>3040878>>3041572So which one is it.>>3040945>it's why I rolled wizWizard is one of the more active classes after the mana changes. If you're sitting on your ass as a wizard you are playing it wrong.
>>3041316If you are the leader and right click someone else on your party frame you will see a selection party -> make leader.
>>3041508>>3041521Often times when I don't loot I see that nobody else loots so I start looting and nobody has told me to stop yet. I mostly take the scraps and armors to scrap. If I see a cracked staff I link it to group and ask if they wanna roll for it. That has worked for me so far.
>>3041577For me it's waiting for new animations so I can decide which archer or ranger to play.
I think I'm just not cut out for this sort of game. I'm feeling incredibly lost at level 15, no clue where to go, everything's either red or green, there's 0 blues left that I can find.
i really want to make a huge ogre rapist and go around the underdocks doing some rapingfighter or shadow knight?
>>3041611Benevolence is admirable and you are a cool dude.>>3041613Animation work is certainly needed, but even if it happens, will be subjective. I feel for you that sucks.
>>3041619sk for sure, fighter is kinda fucking lame
does the shirt slot have any items with AC
>>3041627no
>>3041616You're supposed to group bro
this is the kind of game where guilds are really important, but i have only ever seen two guild recruitment posts. makes me wonder.
>>3041631everyone recruits on discord
>>3041311Swarm kiting and reverse charming
>>3041631because the GMs yell at you and tell you to go on discord and stop shitting up OOC.No one posts recruiting ads here cause the guilds are shit and have no functionality besides chat and a motd.
>>3041635i am now demoralized. old school game using WoW tier philosophy. i just cant. even if a troll response, damn you got me good.
wait you can multibox in this game???
>>3041643he's not it's literally on the discord. there's also an LFG channel which is where most people who are actually progressing are.You can't have a social game in the modern age, there's too many ways to remove the 'friction' they love talking about, in communication.
>>3041640>the guilds are shit and have no functionality besides chat and a motdreal bummer if true. just wanted a way to find like minded people for groups easier. why am i even playing at this point
>>3041646yes. You're "not allowed" on most of the servers, but there's a dedicated 3box server.I've seen more than a few people boxing on trem though.
>>3041648thank you for this, it makes a lot of sense from what ive seen. explains a lot.
>>3041621I mostly want to see a ranged auto attack stance instead of every race using their melee auto attack stance for it. Human male's melee stance sort of works so that's why it looks most okay out of the selections so far. Then some new bow shooting animations would be nice but some of them aren't terrible.
>>3041648>devs love friction so much>didn't c&d wikis and map sites>didn't c&d community discords to at least try to keep communication in game outside of guild cliquesFucking posers.
>>3041648>AI written guild ads with soulless AI slop picturesI hate this
>>3041649I own the trem guild and there's just not a lot of functionality behind them currently. You can set motd, you can promote and demote people, you can't host a guild bank (you would need to manually purchase a house and add other players, no option to allow entry based on guild status or rank). It's just unfinished, like a lot of other stuff. Very rudimentary which is fine considering much of the game is rudimentary.I'd rather people find a guild that is active and enjoyable, but I'll keep this one going at least until next month when I leave in case anyone else wants to join up and get some basic support and advice, and I'll hand it off to whoever wants to keep it going.
Release the damn deep dwarves before I piss meself
>>3041616You're supposed to lean on the community. I would /who all and contact level 15s to ask them where they are leveling.
>>3041646only on the bot server
>>3041675i appreciate your principled approach. you seem like youd be a great guild leader under any circumstance. i still hate this discord reliance. everquest legends did this and they are dying. deservedly so. i dont wish harm upon you, but this game seems to be welcoming the same end.
>>3041679I've yet to have a conversation in game, everyone just completely ignores chat. I've joined a few groups but it's all without conversation, I roam on a campsite, join up and we just kill shit for a bit then slowly break apart. I've tried to talk but people just don't seem to pay attention to their chat, I only get responses to /tells
>>3041678You are lucky if they ever make into the game. Don't wait for them.
>>3041643I notice WoW private servers still recruit in game but OF COURSE you get immediately funneled to a discord link either way. And normalfags believe you can't participate and complete easy simple 20 year old raids unless you're listening to them in voice chat tell you what to do.
>>3041683>I've yet to have a conversation in game, everyone just completely ignores chat.Is this a US server thing? I have had no problem talking with people on EU. If there was a problem it was me getting used to talking to people again.>but people just don't seem to pay attention to their chatI think a lot of people have it all in one window and it gets flooded with shit so they don't see the messages. Stupid of the devs to not have some basic chat tabs for communication by default.
>>3041686what's the hangup with discord? afraid people will realize you aren't actually a girl?
>>3041686This is the reason why I've not joined a guild in an MMO for probably over 10 yearsPeople just shove their dumb discord down your throat and want you to choke on it.Fuck off, I just want to play the game with like minded people, I don't care what your dog looks like or what kind of slop you ate for dinner
>>3041689>random newfaggy strawman
>>3041689Every out of game socialization app/program/tool (skype, msn, irc, vent, teamspeak, discord) eventually turns into where everyone congregates to talk and hang out, instead of ingame, which leads to the ingame socialization breaking down.
>>3041691i'm trolling, i'm actually a woman and i don't want internet people to know
>>3041689dumbass troll people here arent afraid of chatting its the 345 methods faggots use to facilitate it
>>3041690Anon you have an unrealistic idea of what discord is. Most of the time it's just like IRC, unless the server is gigantic.
>>3041690Yep. Even if you do join for video game purposes, every fucking server has the obligatory pet channel, the "meme" or sometimes off-topic channel, real life channel, blah blah take me back to when guilds all had some shitty generic forum website.
>>3041702they also had a ventrilo/ts channel where people would hang out all the time
>>3041692>which leads to the ingame socialization breaking down.This really is it. If a guild has a discord nobody talks in game.
>>3041692>which leads to the ingame socialization breaking downcarpenter tier nail on the head. moving socialization to multiple programs ensures its neutralization and end.
>>3041704Yeah. But people were doing that in their friend groups too without any other external sites/programs.
>>3041702I'm in a friends and friends of friends discord for WoW Forever and there's a shitpost channel meant obviously for related shitposts but someone started posting off topic shitpost in there and ruined the whole thing.
>>3041710ventrilo/teamspeak/skype was the external programi don't think i understand
Why is the world so unfair
>>3041707I'm in the process of cancelling because of this. These fuckers copy Everquests every move, until a few choice examples appear. This is one of them. I'm not dying on this hill fuck em.
>>3041725where are you going to go where it's any different?
just. get. the. drop.
What do we think bros? Is this game going to survive or become a graveyard after next month?
>>3041739Next month I very much anticipate active subs to dip under 10k. I don't think it will go under 5 though.It's not a game for everyone, and I think unfortunately the benefit they've had from their relatively limited tests will not be here as people approach level cap by the end of month 2. They're not going to get content out fast enough to compete with other shit, so it'll probably be one of those games that gets people to come back with big patches. Which is also why I think their idea to spin up new servers with expansions is great. How they handle it after remains to be seen.
>>3041736What level is the mob that drops that?
>>3041734impossible question to answer because apparently there isnt any different experience in the modern mmosphere. my cope answer is offline games and socialize with people i already know.
>>3041739this games needs a dedicated playerbase not a massive playerbasethe first dip in population will be good, the second one will instantly kill it
>>3041748cinder beetles are around 20. There are higher level variants, I feel like that scimitar drops from a sentinel which is 23, but may drop from the regulars.
>>3041746>Which is also why I think their idea to spin up new servers with expansions is great. How they handle it after remains to be seen.The small population is a problem for that. If they splinter the pop too much all the servers will be dead.
>>3041755Right now the game doesn't have anything for players to sustain with. There's nothing for them to do once they've cleared the raid once or twice. New server means everyone starts on even footing (though the advent of knowledge like hidden recipes will probably shift that early period a lot), and that whole launch experience can be repeated.
>>3041739Peak online still being at 6-7k is a good sign
>>3041758>1w old>WE NEED MORE RAIDSkill yourself tigole
>>3041763I'm not jewish, thanks.But I'm pointing out reality, people will go to other games with more content. It's how this shit works. I don't think the game needs to pump content in at a rapid pace, that's a KR mmo thing, and won't work here.But, there's nothing to do.
>>3041748Cinder beetle sentinels, level 25They're the big chonky dudes at the quarry, feels like they have around 2k hp or maybe even more with a fire thorns shield and melee for about 50.The sword is supposed to have a 5% drop chance according to the wiki
>>3041763need more talking and socializing but is clearly not the game for that. everquest legends the shitter that it is, how solo player focused it is, provided wayyyy more social interaction than this GROUP FOCUSED ONLY game.
>>3041766what level do you think the average character is>>3041769aren't you supposed to be able to solo up to level something?
>>3041753>>3041768That's not something I can get in a while then. Where the hell do I get one handers with like 10 damage? Something that's an upgrade from 7.
>>3041766>But, there's nothing to do.What level are you?
>>3041758We don't really know what kind of grinds it has at the high end. Not every piece of content is obvious and I assume there's stuff people haven't found in the beta. The average player is barely level 15, it's gonna take them weeks before they even step into a raid zone, let alone complete them. Then there's alt leveling which most people will consider doing. I think the game's gonna be fine for like 2 months before people start bitching for content.WoW Forever is gonna take a chunk of the playerbase, even if only for a few weeks, but the core audience will stick around for the long term.>>3041778When looking at weapons always consider the weapon RATIO (damage/speed) and not just the raw damage numbers. Something with 5 damage and 20 delay is going to be better than something with 8 damage and 40 delay. All your abilities also scale off of weapon ratio, so that's the only thing that matters
>>3041766>no one is even half way to 60>THERE'S NOTHING TO DO
>>3041787>When looking at weapons always consider the weapon RATIOI know I'm just not gonna write>where I get weapons that have more than 0.172583582 damageYou know I got the point across. I need one handers that are better than the first named drops.
>>3041835What's it like ignoring the conversation discussing the eventuality of 2 months from now when people ARE 60?Are you a nigger or just retarded?
>>3041840less than 5% of the playerbase will be 60 in 2 months
have there been any earthquakes ingame yet? I ahven't seen any. I wonder if they'll do some this weekend.
>>3041842less than 5% of the current playerbase will still be playing in 2 months.
>>3041838Well if you don't mention the speed then I can't tell what you have, so I can't recommend any upgradesGood luck anon
>>3041787we do know, it has one singular raid. They're focused on getting core game mechanics and systems ingame, they're working on faith, on the trait redesign, and the new races. Who are you kidding?
>>3041868They're also working on expeditions. Considering that you're worried about running out of content, that means you're at least level 45 now, right?
>>3041873Yes, as a matter of fact, I am. I'm 59 and almost 60. The game has no content, and I and the rest of my guild hovering 55~ are also going to quit and will come back when the new servers drop.
>>3041876>I and the rest of my guild hovering 55~ are also going to quitbye
>>3041675>Very rudimentary which is fine considering much of the game is rudimentary.That's the opposite of fineYou're paying $15/month for thatGet some standards
>>3041876no one is 55 yet
>>3041763lol you were right
>>3041876Bro same, i can't wait to play WoW forever. I'm even spending time playing aion 2 while sitting on my ass in MnM cause there's literally nothing to doactual shit game fr fr
>>3041852Fuck you.
>>3041881I paid $15 for it and won't be paying for month 2, which was exactly what I said a sentence later lolI don't expect fully fleshed out systems in an EA, but it's definitely not rich enough for me.
what are the towns/cities past the starting zones like? i'm only level 7 and the world looks pretty big but i'm a little concerned that there might be little else.
>>3041876post your character select
>say that the game will probably lose a bunch of players in a couple months when they hit 60 and run out of time>everyone starts screeching>say I'm 60>now you all suddenly believe itholy shit hook line and sinkerrrrrrrrrr you guys are dumb as fuck, proving my point.
>>3041894stop giving shitposter (You)s
What's more cutesy uwu? Deep Gnome, Gnome or Goblin?
>>3041908deep gnome for sure
>>3041908deep gnome and it's not even close
>>3041916>>3041918don't the females have the half closed eyes you can pick?
>>3041922they have 6 faces and they're all incredibly expressives because the eyes are just a cheat code to make good facesogres are also incredibly expressive
>>3041927Fuck yeah. I'm gonna play a Deep Gnome when I do play.
do tanks want STA and STR or STA and DEX?is hitting often more important than hitting hard for damage and threat?
>>3041908Deep Gnomes actually btfo Gnomes so hard it's not even funnyGoblins are cool but not cute
>>3041750People aren't going to just leave unless the devs completely fuck the game up.
>>3041932agi is the most important stat for tanksta is kinda meme
>>3041894>>3041899There have been a couple 60s posting on the reddit for the game
>>3041922
>>3041938those were beta 60, nobody is 60 yet
>>3041940Creepy. I love her.
>>3041940why is she so smug...
is shitposting on /vm/ so addictive that you do it for 12 hours a day in multiple threads?
ebin looties!
>>3041964Who art thou quoting?
I'm not quoting anyone
>>3041989big nub here, how do you put your harvest tools on your skill bar?
>>3041989you wanna sell it?serious btw
>the thread is dead because everyone is enjoying playing the game and too busy to shitpost!
>>3042049hold left click until it creates an icon and put it on your hotbar, do same to your primary slot and you can swap tools on hotbars
>>3042054so true, I'm having a blast right now
>>3042050how much you offering bish?
>>3042063Are you on Vespyria?
>>3042069of course, I am afterall white!
>>3042069we only trade with guild memebrs
>>3041602Sharpening Stones exist.You need Brittle Sharpening Stones (Brittle Stone + Fish Oil)With the sharpening Stones, take them to an Anvil with the Rusty Weapon and combine them to turn them into Tarnished Weapons.
>>3042071Thanks G
>>3042086I joined this guild before NFA was even a thing sorry :D
>guy buying copper ore in NH turns down 6 stacks because he doesn't want to walk over to a safe place where my DE can trade with himWhat the heck man
>>3042097>traitor left his homeland serves you right
>>3042089Thanks. What is the recipe for corroded?
>>3042121there is none, those are drops.
>>3042119Bro please my ass can't survive another round of pegging from the house mistresses
>>3042125No but can't you fix up corroded?
>>3042128>he joined house pegging>instead of house cbtlmao
>>3042137oh, the higher level stones. jagged instead of brittle (you get from t2 nodes like tin and limestone)
>>3042097FOREIGNERS OUT! NOW!
>>3042128>house t4t wins again!
>coh hasn't played mnm since being train trolled>even deleted his character you just know he beats his wife
>>3041577>i am not satisfied with the race options for BeastmasterUh, your Goblin, sweaty?
>>3041626Fighter was cool and fun before the revamp, but people cried that wasn't how we do it in EQ so they made it boring and gay.
Goblin Beastmaster reminds me of squig herders.
>>3042137Yes, Corroded Bronze can be fixed with the next tier up. Jagged Whetstones/Sharpening stones.You can even repair Corroded Plate/Chain with Bronze Scraps at an anvil.
>>3042157it was the only real solution, these sorts of games have way too much in the way of shit you can do to fuck with streamers, so naturally they'll hate it and not stream.
>>3041933They’re unconventionaly cute. They make cute noises when jumping.
>>3042176My Goblin is NOT cute!
>>3042165> so naturally they'll hate it and not stream.HOLY BASED. This game is as mighty as the US Marine Corps (oooooooh-rah!) against the brown hordes.
>>3042165>>3042157please tell me there's a clip of this
>>3042157he rolled a rogue and deleted his spellblade to keep the namethis is misinformation
>>3042192no people just kept bringing trains and feigning death when they got to his group, he kept dying and couldn't corpse retrieve, kept pretending he was totally fine with it and that it was just how things were and seethed so hard he ragequit and isn't "playing on stream" anymore (he's not playing at all)
>>3042194who would be retarded enough to reroll sb to a rogue?>streameroh...
>>3042214It doesn't really matter what class you play when you have thousands of paypigs to carry you at a moment's notice.
>>3042214I mean when your group wipes you are so fucking happy you have a rogue with you
are gnomes the ingame jew race?
>>3042223goblins
>>3042223goblins will have the jew traits in the new update
>>3042160What did they change?
>>3042253they changed barely anything, they just added vengeance mechanic where fighter actually needs to tank to do it's dps while before we had too many wow larpers trying to force dps fighters
>>3042270>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO DAMAGE AS A WARRIOR THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO IN EQ
>>3042285exactly, reroll a dps if you want to dps
>>3042290
>>3042218It is a bit funny to have a class for when you fail but it does happen
Trolls and High Elves are coming in the next module, per sandwich man.
>>3042285You can do dps as a warrior anon. You just can’t be a pussy and not tank.
Can you seamrip cloth gear in a leatherworking kit (or vice versa)?
>>3042349no
>>3042285Not having talents or anything like it was such a mistake.
>>3042357Those come in an expansion. That's how we do it in EQ.
>>3042340What is the next module?
>>3042344>NOOOO I WANT MY PLATE WEARER TO HIDE BEHIND ENEMY BACK!
How does Warrior dps stack up against SK anyway?
>>3042371We don't know, No meters allowed.
>>3042371Right now it's impossible to say, you can get a lucky drop and have enough damage to hit your level cap.
>>3041927some of the faces in this game feel like they're meant to be toggled rather than defined on creationthey don't really change the face much besides the expressionwould be kind of nice to just have 3 face types with 3 or 4 /emote variations
A Goblin ventures into the unknown.
>>3042371fighter is better in later levels sk in earlier
>>3042371SK seems like it could be a decent dd but idk
>>3042371endgame fighter will pull ahead with triple attack+dw
>>3042375Yeah, the deep gnome faces are all very expressive, but all of them (aside from the default) are such a specific "mood" I don't know if I'd want to be stuck with any of them permanently.
>>3042372>No meters allowed.ruh roh
>>3042404Hey, I only said they are not allowed (Against TOS) Not that they don't exist.
>>3042403is there a frowny eyes half closed one? like sleepy or just done with life in general?
>>3042405I didn't even know they were against TOS. Claude just built it into my attack timer overlay without me asking.
How does dual wielding work? Does it have some penalties to attack speed, offhand damage, anything like that? Or is it as simple as combining their ratios and comparing to a 2h's ratio?
>>3042372you jest but I unironically saw people saying on forums people should not complain about class balance because "they can't possibly know" since dps meters are bannedand yes it was chanters saying this when their charm dps got rape corrected
>>3042404how are they going to stop people from parsing chat logs?as long as people aren't poasting em, and this shit is kept in dickscord where it belongs who's going to care?
>>3042408dual wield is a chance to fire off an extra attack with the secondary weapon, that secondary attack can also double or triple attack.
>>3042411idk but I think Claude is trying to get me banned. the AI uprising has begun
>>3042413Ah I see... dex affect it's chance like other procs, I'm assuming? Just really having a hard time weighing the value of it vs 2h
>>3042408nothing like that, it's a skill that has change to proc while you are in melee combat, you can go read up exact details in p99 wiki because we do that in eq
>>3042416To the best of my knowledge, no, actually. It's the skill "dual wield". Dex may have a secondary effect on it I guess but I think the meat of the chance comes from that and dex acts as like a multiplier to it.
>>3042416dex does not affect dw
>>3042411If people are parsing, people are going to dickmeasure with it, it's going to form meta and it's going to influence the development of the game (agenda posting to prove class is OP/class sucks). Banning it from the official discord won't make a difference.
>>3042406I'm not at my computer right now so I can't post it, but yes, there is one, and it's very cute. But I still don't think I could stand permanently sticking it in any character that wasn't a necro.
>>3042411That’s how it works in xiv. Parse all you want, but start doing WoW nonsense like posting your deadmines parse in party chat will get you banned. Also when you kick a shitter, just don’t say why.
>>3042443That's the one I would probably use! I might sub to the game later and try. I played a little during the closed beta but that was a while ago.
>>3042438theres more to a class than just dps
>>3042453You think people care? When it comes to parsers. DPS is the only measure. Nothing else matters.
>>3042443
>>3042455bro, ur brain is cooked, this game has 50% dmg buffs in it. enjoy wow forever in a month, and posting BIG DICK DAMAGE in your hogger raid.
>>3042455hey wow tourist!two of the most wanted classes chanter and bard literally do sub tank dps
>>3042457w-what did I do sis?
>>3042457Can you post face 2 so that other Anon can see what it looks like?
>>3042457She looks like she was blackmailed into posting tits
>>3042457>mfw chanter NIGGER doesn't buff clarity after asking 6 times
>>3042478Those are dedicated buffbot classes though.
>>3042501She looks like she fucks goblins
>>3042478they're wanted so DPS classes can swing a bigger dick
>>3042485
Deep Gnomes can't be spellblades. WTF is this horse shittery
>>3042521Yeah that's the one I wanted to use!
>>3042523only race that can be a wizard but not a spellblade btw
who was in the wrong here?
>>3042533Both are in the right
>>3042521Thank you, fren.
>Underdocks has the nicest-looking bard guild>no bards can start thereI'm choosing to believe in the deep gnome bard dream.
FUG
Does anyone know what the best weapons for necro pets are? Should I be doing onehand and shield? Would dual wield be better for higher threat gen? I'm having issues at 20 now with my pet keeping threat, no group will take me as a tank anymore cause they have to wait two full provokes before they can attack and it's fuckin sloooooooooooow
it would be -really fucking cool- if hitting 60 on DG wizard unlocked spellblade for DG
>>3042718I put 2 swords on mine at lvl 17, threat is definitely starting to fall off Necros...suck ass?
>>3042723The damage is fine, actually, it's just threat. Using ghouls I'm more of an off-cc between the root and fear and lull.
>Necros are a jack of all trades making them good at solo content>But a worse option in every regard for group contentwhats the point of this class
>>3042734It's more that their toolkit evolves and turns from tanking (for which they have only one move, and it's a pet move) to off-cc for which they have lots of tools against undead.I think doing some minor tweaks like health sacrifice adding threat to a player/pet would go a long way. if I can sacrifice 150 of my own HP to my pet and have him gain x threat for it, it would immediately resolve the issue.
>>3042723>>3042734necro is actually really good in groups post revampget to lvl 20+
Like those guys who stand next to someone else's Ferrari on Instagram for a picture
>>3042747only as something other than their entire 1-20 journey. Most necros I'm seeing at level 15 doing wererats or ashiras literally don't even mem their mez or fears cause the pets prio tanking.
>>3042747what happens at level 21
>>3042755nope, as a dps
>>3042752+(me)Wizard spells at 24 AFTER the nerf are ~2 goldI'm hoping the devs start paying out some of them wizard stimmies, might take a dent out of my costs coming up.
>>3042760new ranks in dots start to make them actually good and their pet dps improves
i really hope the guy responsible for the UI didnt quit his day job after this launch
What should I grind at lvl 17
>>3042778class?
>>3042785necro
>>3042789do you have fear yet?, go fearkite green drakeling in keepes bight for massive shekels
>>3042771Yeah but half of their kit becomes worthless, just so happens to be the half that the game heavily incentivizes them using for 1-20, it's really bad design to completely change up a class identity like that.
>>3042468>>3042478You misunderstand me. The people demanding (Read, Poopsocking raiders) parsers will see only DPS and nothing else.I personally could care less about raiding or parsers.
>>3042793what happens to the other half of our kit
>>3042792might as well do this with skeletons for more money. it's about 50-70c either way
>>3042802it's completely pointless because your pet won't be tanking anymore, and all buffs attached to it regarding it's health and AC serve no purpose because it won't gen enough threat to hold or pull.
>>3042811We do that in eq
>>3042811we do that in eqnegro is known for fearkiting and that's what you'll be doing and you VVILL be happy
>>3042811so why is necro known as the solo class
>>3042821cause only solo edgelord losers play it
>>3042821fear kite
>>3042821beats me, trying soloing anything when your dots out-gen your pet with a threat generating skill, it's pointless.
>>3042828take the taunt off of your pet and make him chase the mob around while you fear it repeatedly until it dies
>tourists just now realizing soloing means kitingkekwe do it like this in eq
Can someone explain to me how in the good goddamn you reverse charm or whatever to solo as an Enchanter? I think I might be retarded.
>>3042877You are
>>3042877>charm mob>send it to attack another mob>when your charmed mob is low hp break the charm>charm the other mob and kill the low hp for full xp+tip
>>3042885Quite rude. Though likely correct.
>>3042890How does one break the charm? I didn't see that as an option, and dispel or whatever doesn't do it.
>>3042877"reverse charming" is just a dumb phrase that doesn't make sensesomething like "charm juggling" would make more sense
>>3042911I learned how to do it by googling how do you break charm in eq
>>3042920It's reverse because your goal is to kill the charmed mob, not keep it as a pet.
>>3042403>I don't know if I'd want to be stuck with any of them permanently.Yeah that's kind of annoying. Same problem across a lot of faces on all races. Some of them feel like they should be temporary faces tied to emotes.
>>3042846so why isn't archer a good solo class checkmate boomer
>>3042408It counts down your attack delay for the offhand just like mainhand but instead of always hitting it rolls based on the dual wield skill to see if it should hit or not.
>>3042946it is tho
>>3042946because you have to beg for sow every 35 mins
>>3042955no you don't. multiple snare/root options and 10% permanent runspeed in skirmish
>>3042959>10%lmao, what a meme class
>>3042950Is this true though? Cause I always see my off-hand attack proc right after a main hand attack, even if they have completely different swing timers.I've heard people say that a faster main hand weapon gets you more off-hand procs and that kind of made sense to me from what I was seeing
>>3042962It should be a little higher (20% would be nice), but caltrops+net shot keep mobs off of you well enough and the 10% gives you just enough to get out of melee range if you get caught lackin. If you wanna kite around reds or something then yeah you need SOW.
Elves really choose to go around looking like this all day
>>3042821because of eq
>>3043016I LOVE EQ!!!!!!
So... if the off-hand is just a proc, then I should ignore the ratio for it and just get the hardest hitting offhand I can regardless of attack speed?
>>3043024no that's not how it works in EQ
>>3042968If they copied EQ then mainhand shouldn't matter but maybe they didn't copy EQ 1:1.
>>3043027
>>3043024no, get the best ratio for your oh too the proc rate is also based on ratioeverything is based on ratioalways use best ratio weapon
>>3043078no need to incap if you kill
>>3043078It worked like this in EQ
>>3042846>elementalistslook ma, I'm soloing
>>3043114you sound like sub lvl 20
>>3043078That guy's cool, he gave me 80 wool cloth and 25 silver for a cinder beetle mandible
Anyone wanna point a young blud to a good spot to get some tannable pelts?
>>3043155if only those 25s had been used on a mezz he wouldn't have died twice getting it now
>>3043175my bad
>>3043172evershade is full of animals
>>3043078
Alright anons! I'm gonna sub. What server do I join to play with the majority of you?
>>3043172Jackals in NH? Wolves in Treenig land
>>3043212largest /vm/ populace is on EU.there's about equal amounts actual players in EU and trem (US east 1)
>>3043220how do we have so many EUs?
>>3043220Oh, shucks. I'm not EU. I don't think this game really matters too much ping wise right? I'd rather play on Trem cause I'm US East.
>>3043231>>3043232it's just that eu had the guild up first.there's a small guild on trem but it only has 1 guy (or 2 maybe?).ping isn't a huge deal but it does matter some.
>>3043231mutts are spread on 4 servers and all eu players are on one
>>3043231im NA on EU server cause fuck overpopulation
>>3043236Are there english speakers on EU at least or is it all a random mishmash of stuff I won't understand?
>>304325190% english as of current. Next month when players crater and then fall off a cliff and then drown and then fall into the earth's core, it might be a lot more germans cause they love this mashocistic bullshit type of game.
>>3043251ive seen a french and spanish stuff but mostly everyone speaks english
>>3043254>when players crater and then fall off a cliff and then drown and then fall into the earth's corelaffed
ominous giant chud on the background...
>>3043289Eh, I imagine wowbucks will return to their dealer for another hit on the pipe when Forever releases. Probably 25% of the server population is in an abusive relationship with Blizzard.
>>3043289I like the game but it's a little ominous how cultish the discord has been about it, saying "holy shit only way to go is up!"like no, that almost never happens. I think if it holds 10k of hte subs they have that's enormous success. Truthfully more than I EVER expected mnm to have, this is a super small passion project, I figured 1k subs max lmao
>>3043302>>3043308nonono i thought anon's description was funny, i wasn't being malicious or laughing at him or being a faggoti do agree that there will more than likely be a sharp drop in subs and i am awaiting that day to see
>>3043250you have so many other options why choose the one that gives you permanent latency
>>3041646we dont ban boxers in eq even though the rules forbid it
I really appreciate how even at 200+, at least for alchemy and carpentry, that you still want the low, even starter tier resources, it really gives some value prop for new players or low level alts or something.
>>3041935bro the devs already fucked the game up
I just struggle to think of who the game is for, the devs made a game for them that's just p99 but not as polished or as fun or as content or feature rich or... anything. Maybe in a few years but they pushed it out, this is the one chance it has to make an impression, and it's been decent but definitely not the best it could have been.
>>3041935They continue to treat the game like a closed beta instead of the live service active-sub MMO it currently is.
So if Necro soloing eventually becomes contingent on fearing and dots, does that mean that elementalist soloing just falls off a fucking cliff around the same point?
>>3043335yeah, they did. I was on board until they added mtx to the store. XP boosters in a game like this shouldn't exist, even less so the drop boosters. I get selling cosmetics but fucking xp and drops is over the top. This is not surviving another month
>>3043340this game already mogs p99
>>3043343yeah pretty much, mob HP really starts growing exponentially after hell level1
>>3043343Yes.enjoy being windfury bot
>>3043343Necro also has charm, feign death, etc. if you got big nuts you can swing them around.
>>3043353It doesn't even mog most of eqe servers.
>>3043352is this bait or are you talking about a different game entirely
>>3043251I haven't seen anyone speaking anything other than English on EU.
>>3043368It has a much better playerbase due to the sub
>>3043368cope
>>3043373Okay! I made an Elementalist. I was thinking Enchanter but I don't know how important that is in a group and I don't wanna grief.
>gm arrivesI dindu nuffin!
>>3043374>much better playerbase>reporting people for "killstealing" level 1 newbie trash>everybody just ffa ninja looting every party despite knowing better>good lord just look at discordif you think the sub will keep out your third world boogeymen you are wrong because this game will be an RMT shithole within 3 months.
>>3043388>Shawn is busy responding to petitions because he has no gamedev applicable skillslmao
>>3043395already is. 1g/$1
>>3043395learn to behave, chudback to p99 with all the thirdie shitskins
>>3043398yeah these boomer retards will tell you about boot straps and how you need to really experience the game and progression itself but then swipe the card immediately for a fungi tunic
>>3043409I sold my first 5 gold to some guild bigwig on EU for about $100 day 2 (was buying all the spider silk and cloth I could get my mitts on)RMT will and has always existed on MMOs, there's no way to stop it, but this game seems very much ripe for exploitation due to it.
>>3043314havent had any issues
>>3043395>>3043409keeping you out of:-3
>>3043415This is bait
>>3043430believe what you'd like
>>3043415we love paypal friends and family in eq
why are ogre players such fat retards in game and irl
>>3043446naw skrill through the site middleman. Paypal is too liable to just randomly deplatform you for no reason or if someone complains.They pay middleman in escrow, I give item to middleman, middleman distributes item, I get money.Also stops me from being as susceptible to chargebacks.
>>3043450people who play big races in mmos are always retarded
>>3043454which covenant member did you sell the gold to?
>>3043463now why the fuck would I say that
>>3043409it's more telling to me when their fondest memories are about botting and selling gold or deciding to quit and selling their account to get $500 for it
>>3043465so i can never group with them or interact with them, I don't want their bought gold
>>3043465because we are all friends here at 4chan dawt ogre?
now that the dust has settled, which classes will be able to smooth sail solo to 60
>>3043549necro, wiz, spb if you pick singles.
>>3043549necro
>>3043553whats good about spellblade? i only got one to 8 and while the single target dmg is okay i dont know how they are supposed to have any sustain and if there is actually massive stat jumps later on i assume players dont keep up
>>3043549soloing past 20 is like fuck my miserable fucking existence: the game
>>3043563That's why I said if you pick singles. They can't sustain and they don't have much in the way of protection if they fuck up, but you can do such insanely high single target damage that it's totally viable to pick off singular mobs from encampments.
>>3043568seems like you would just be really inefficient compared to other classes unless they somehow kill mobs before taking any amount of damage. bandagemaxing?
>>3043576You asked which ones can smoothly get to 60, nigger, not "what solo class is faster than groups" which is fucking none.
Got in a little group for my beetle quest. Kinda nice you can do that on here (while the population lasts anyway.)
>>3043324That's how we do it in EQ
>>3043395> third world boogeymenDo brown people think the constant hate they get on here is “ironic” or something? And yes, if your country doesn’t border the North Sea or Puget Sound, you are brown.
>>3043583having to constantly wait to heal and for solo pulls is not "smooth" man
27k subs!
which class is the pull class? i want to be the one doing pulls (i think it's best to have someone non retarded do it)
>>3043631The real answer is Necro, Druid, Enchanter, Bard, in no particular order
I'm really not liking this, it feels very explicit. They keep allowing people to exploit shit to get ahead, then nerfing it and saying "Wellllll, it wasn't THAT big of a deal..."
>>3043564we do that in eq
>>3043657monk is the best pull class
>>3043664It wasn’t an exploit. Hell, half of solo strategies in EQ were questionable shit like slaughtering the guards in the high elf city.
>>3043664Literally doesn't matter for anyone but the 20 people racing for world first 60
>>3043692Except the 'exploit' they allowed people to run for repeatable quests, right?Where is the line exactly? What does matter? Because any of this shit is extremely shady.>>3043686>it wasn't an exploit to deliberately camp and bully everyone out of a zone where mobs had half the hp of their counterparts for similar exp??????????????????
>tag too fast for geriatric diabetics at necro newbie yard>seething from 3 different people that i am kill stealing>just ignore them>tag and kill 3 different skeletons with cracked staves >capslock is cruise control for cool passive aggressive "SOME PEOPLE JUST RUIN EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE" in ooc gnometard necro #1.i am so powerful and so rich at level 2.
>>3043711if you're on trem, prioritize fucking over "live laugh loot" members, they're streamer guildI sit there and farm cloth though desu very comfy and easy money and the rage is funny
>>3043716there is some ogreGOD here pulling half the newbie yard into the guards intentionally its unbelievably funny. is that the stupid cohhcarnage guild? i trained one of them by accident on my shaman and got a massive tldr bawwwwfest in tells the other day.
why are you mutts like that, can't you just enjoy the game?
>>3043723it sure is, but there's a couple other streamer normalfags that joined it too. They're still around but mostly left when he did so I optimize my griefing to them.
>>3043736>Nihilum
>>3043740Cohh quit already? What did he play for? 1 day?
>>3043740that nigga already quit ?
>>3043750>>3043753he got got by train runners, deleted his spb, remade a rog and claims he's going to keep playing, but is not playing. So yes, he quit.
>>3043750hey he made it one day longer than kangen
>>3043450I always shrink ogre player in my group
>>3043759kungen was grinding beta nonstop till forever was announced
this game just doesn't have the chops for streamer content, maybe when people get to doing 'runs' through raids and dungeons and shit, no one wants to sit and watch some retard grind the same mobs.
No big streamer would stick with this game, 99% of the gameplay is just afking at a camp waiting for respawns and then mindlessly killing mobs real quickIts the most unexciting thing imaginable
>>3043771>this mmo is my life>i've been waiting 20 years for this game>this is my new forever game
>>3043780To be fair wow forever is a pretty enormous tell and the actual answer to OSRS that people had been asking for, for the better part of a decade at this point. Nothing was ever going to compete with it in any meaningful way. Especially not this, but the userbase for mnm is likely going to stick through it as long as they keep updates coming at something resembling a reasonable pace.
>>3043780>w-wait a sec is that LE HECKING SEASONAL WOW SERVER!
>>3043786>the worst version of Blizzard that ran retail into the ground is doing classic+>prove how out of touch they are right out of the gate with blue sky elves for both factions>bunch of retards trip over themselves to give them moneythe jews are right about the goyim
>>3043786WoW forever is nothing like OSRS and it never will be. By the looks of it, it's just the same old game where you'll be raidlogging 3 weeks after release
>>3043798>is nothing like osrswell no shit the games are nothing alike, retard, but to deny that forever is not deliberately them trying to utilize the idea of osrs resetting the clock to re-develop content in a time period people were much more fond of is just silly.
>>3043803I remember when we had blue elves with high poly models in vanilla, very fond of that memory, good times
>>3043810so what's it like, being so stupid? Are you on disability or do you try to work with that severe brain damage?
>>3043815why are you wow cucks always so mad, is it the genitial mutiliation you suffered as a baby?
>>3043815I remember when I solo cleared deadmines on my prot warrior, that shit was so lit bro!!!
>>3043819You're the one seething about it, my man.>>3043820damn, crazy, link that shit, I'd love to see it.
>>3043796its gonna be the same as every wow release where the honeymoon phase crashes and burns in 2 months.
>>3043505just don't party with covenant
how poor are you guys that you don't buy gold? LOL
>>3043563>>3043568>>3043576Spellblade has a solid absorb shield on a low cooldown which makes it pretty capable of 1v1 as long as mana lasts but I wouldn't call it a good soloer because of that.
how much gold you have brokies?
>>30439087 gold
>>3043908zero
guh
>>3041734time to retreat to Erenshor I guess
>>3043941I wish the dude would fix the camera controlls in that game, it's kinda fun
>>3043941Erenshor is neat but it's a little too easy and the chatbot system begs for hooking up to an LLM.
>>3043941that games dogshit for unfortunate reasons. ignoring the tuning of fights, the game revolves around farming civcruxes and planar stones to make youe downgrades upgrades. something the dev said he wanted to avoid doing is exactly what he created, lmao.
>27k subseven if we lose 60% we'll be fineM&M won by a LOT
>>3044007I'm shocked it's that high and assume it's a manipulated number.
>>3044012cope
>>304400730k by the next weekend!
>>3041734SoloQuest
>>3044007And if you lose 95%?
>>3044046if that was going to happen playerbase would already have collapsed
how is the sub count going up but all the regions are getting less populated
>>3044007Playing this game made me not want to play WoW forever
>>3041725reminder that the original eq had in game bulletin boards you could guild advertise on :^)
>>3041734There are like 5 eqe solo servers with different progression systems that sounds fun to play on.
>>3043825This. I'm gonna play, see some of the new stuff and then quit the second it becomes raid logging.
get KNOTTED antishills
>>3044069It also had find system that will show you how to get to vendors and npcs.
>>3044065They're rigging the numbers, it's fairly obvious. If you look at the metrics you'll see that there's never more than 6k people online, yet they have 27k subs, it just doesn't add up
>>3044093magical arrows are C R I N G E and not classic(tm).
>NOOO STOP THE COUNT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FAIL
>>3044093we didn't do that in real eq
>>3042054soloing is comfy but i want to group up and chat sometimes but everybody else seems to be jerking off with their free hand instead of sandwiching. its quite a thing when the antisocial is disturbed by peoples disregard for interaction. FUCK. might as well be an offline game.
>>3044123should have rolled on the EV server, baka
>>3044118yeah cus we had atlas and bradyguides and zones werent FUCKING HUGE
convince me not to reroll for the nth time i play cleric
>>3044141be my heal slut
>>3044141what level you got to and what's wrong with it?
>>3043941My drive bit the dust when I had 3/4 Gods killed in the raids rip
>>3044141im currently lvl 6 (9 times)
>>3043949I played the demo and was surprised how good it was. The graphics are awful and will filter a lot of people.
>>3044007I think it will settle somewhere between 5k and 10k and then fall from there every month bit by bit until there's like 1k autists left.
>>30441487 and i can't solo but UD on eu doesn't have that many groups going so finding people is hit or miss
>>3044069That would be soulful to add to MnM. >>3044095People that have already paid can stop playing you know. Most of them won't be getting refunds.
>>3044183ingame bulletin board will just be a discord relay
It would be cool if we could have adventurer's guilds which would be basically inns with bulletin board quests and party recruitment. Inside you should be able to sit and your stores food shouldn't decrease, your buffs should stay constant, and you should be able to mingle and fuck around with board games.
>>3044180how the fuck can't you solo with your god proc?
>>3044180go to the surface
AV knowers, should I kill outcasts or get rep up from seething? Is there any benefit to being disdained with them?
I don't know what I should be killing at level 10wererats always seem to be occupiedI went up to the surface and every enemy camp in the desert also seems occupieddo I just pick off the giant beetles and rattlesnakesI've never even seen a named mobI should have rolled on a dead server
>>3044189It doesn't have to be anything complex. Even if it's a simple thing to enable from the guild management window and then it shows up on all boards across the game that's fine. Just having it be bound to the game world adds a bit.
>>3044224the sun is blinding me there's people who want to chase me and kill me also my feet hurt i want to go back home
>>3044215>Inside you should be able to sit and your stores food shouldn't decreaseThat's a feature of the inns already.>with bulletin board questsI thought that's what the bounty thing in UD was gonna be. One of the NPCs in there made it sound like players could list bounties for other players to fill.
>>3044130dudu claws scryed this post and somehow forgot to attach an attention whoring image
>>3044229You get rep from progressing the starter quest. Technically you can get past seething without doing it but I don't know if they still murder you at the bridge or not. You can also kill goblins for rep. There's a cave full of them. Level 8-12 or something like that.
>>3044268which direction from AV is this fungal cave? Been looking for something to grind with loot. Those fungals are really good xp but drop nothing
SOVL
>>3044274You mean goblin cave? It is sort of north west but I think it is easier to go counter clockwise to find it. There's these towers around AV once you get past a second one you should start finding oozes and failed experiments and some gnome researchers. Behind those there's a path up to an opening in the cave wall. Some wooden spikes at the bottom of the ramp and goblins start from there. Lower levels in the opening and higher levels if you go into the tunnels. At least one named in there as well.Definitely want a party unless you are overleveled.
>take the boat back to AV>/who>be the only person in Caves of Iremdeep more like /dead/
>>3044296I'll come visit the chudlands
>>3044296does anyone actually level in this and the great sea?
>>3044328no
>>3044317no porting while encumbered is such a meleefaggot design choice
>>3044328I need to go there for a quest at some point.
>>3044328No one does because it's new. People like to go to spots they already know about and are comfortable with, not many want to explore and adventure into the unknown.
>>3027789Friendly bump. Just in case.
>be shadow knight>specialize in nothing>anything that can drop loot is immune to fear>all spell casts get interrupted 2-5 times per fire>be the worst tank in the gameWHY CANT I AT LEAST CAST MY FUCKING NIGGER SPELLS, THE LAST MOB INTERRUPTED MY CAST TEN TIMES TEN FUCKING TIMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>3044370Cast in-between auto attacks :)
>>3044370don't be such a baby, I'd gladly take söyknight to tank over shitster at least until lvl 40
>>3044370they realized this shit was aids at a certain point in eq and gave everybody a decent amount of anti interruption abilities and shadowknights in general just got near instant cast spells.
>>3044357It would be so cool to get a party together and roam some zone for a while to find new camp spots and possible named spawns.
>>3044357Every time I adventure into the unknown I get fucking killed.
>>3044370unironically learn to weave, it's super easy. mob attacks are all around the same timing.>t. wiz and p99 paladin
>>3044370I just don't understand why they have a life steal dd and not a life steal dot so they don't have to keep recasting it to benefit from it>Because eq1 had itYeah yeah...
>>3044423you can't weave for shit on trem because the game is randomly spiking to 200+ ms and everything delays horribly including your inputs.
>>3044443nigger im literally on trem and do it all the time
>>3044449yeah shutup deep elf nigga nobody is in your zone
>shallow shoalsis this an underwater zone?
>>3044440eq had those lifetaps over time and they were super duper dogshit
>>3044455It's too shallow to have underwater content
>>3044455it's island resort
>>3044466It appears to be mostly water, though
>>3044475you can walk on most of it because the water is shallow, there is a secret underwater dungeon there though
>>3044475better have those swimming levels
>>3044475It's a kiddie pool. Only gnomes get underwater content out of it
I fucking hate grouping. It's been 45 to 2 hours a night spent either herding cats, hanging about like a creeper, awkwardly petitioning strangers or praying at the alter of the group finder. Once you're locked in it's great, but I legit have to wait for the weekend because the [time to group/time to play] Ratio is so fucked.You're "supposed" to run into the same people often enough that it eventually stops being awkward but that's simply not true.
>>3044484it appears people are self segregating in their discord guilds and not attempting to go out and make friends in game. or theyre soloing. all those loud mouthed boomers who wanted their game full of friction are doing all they can to avoid it.
>>3044497seems pretty true. discord kills mmos.
>>3044484>You're "supposed" to run into the same people often enough that it eventually stops being awkward but that's simply not true.Awkward? Brother it's a video game, not a date.
>>3044484>>3044497i have added 10 people to my friends list in three days and I group with one or two of them every night, maybe you guys should be good/personable
>I just grinded 4 levels over 10h hourss-sovl...
>>3044503>me and a friend join a group of people to xp>they pop their discord and want us to join>my buddy does I don't>they are pulling multiple mobs and we have no cc>im multi tanking 2-3 constantly>they ask me to only tank one and they will root/kite the others>k>after group ends buddy comes back>group of people in discord were flipping the fuck out in discord that I was multi tanking 2-3 and ooming them instead of asking me in group to stop>he had to tell them they have to ask me because im not in discord to know they
>>3044521>because im not in discord to know theyfuck they got him boys lets start up the search par
>>3044535I'm on my w
>>3044518CLASSRACEZONEFINANCIAL STATUS INGAME
>>3044521schizo anon bringing us back with some candlejack postin-
>>3044518my average so far has been 1.5-2h/level so this tracks, good job anon!
>>3044556>CLASSshit...>RACEelf>ZONEdesert?>FINANCIAL STATUS INGAMEit's chudover
>leveling slow as shit cause I keep chasing named items and doing dumb quests for rewardsA-at least I'm kinda stacked with gear...
>>3044580>stat caps your damage
>>3044556lower whitesouthern usnone, i haven't played this game yet
should i stick with my wiz, my inq or make another alt theyre 10-15. i feel like i stay LFG for a long time on tanks
Dudu fucking sucks, don't roll it and don't believe anyone who says they are good solo
>>3044610Dudu is a scam, literally the worst class in the game. The only reason anyone plays it is because WE DID THAT IN EQ
>>3044610druids exist to be fuckmeat who powerlevel me in the future. i am a rogue god and i will not be grouping with the riffraff.
>>3044633>rogue goddid you take Halfling? I took Dwarf. hoping not to regret it but Stoneform is pretty sweet. 10% pdr, 25% AC bonus and more keeps me alive
>>3044642I'm picking troll.
>ClericUses the heaviest armor in the gameUses a shieldWields a massive golden hammerBest heals in the gameSmites foes with the power of fucking religion>ShamanBest debuffs in the gameCauses the tank to take zero damageMakes the DPS fucking wet from the haste and stat buffsEscape skill that prevents wipes>DruidWorse thorn shield than an ElementalistSome dumb AC buff everyone forgets aboutStupid season system that cucks their heals if they try to do damageUses armor made of leafs and bear shitThe only reason they exist is to be a fucking uber driver
>>3044661>Worse thorn shield than an Elementalistwe dont learn lessons from eq
>>3044661>Druidleft out "are all scat fetishists" right after the armor comment
>druid is the most popular class>everyone plays druid cause they love sitting on their ass doing nothingit all makes sense now
>>3044589Average poster on here
>>3044556ElementalistDeep GnomeUnderdocksPoor!
>>3044556WizzzzzardBeanerEW1 gold saved up for my level 24 spells out of 2
>>3044601wiz is kino, stick with wiz
>>3044556WIZHUMVoZLOADED
>>3044556PaladinHumanNight Harbor1.5 gold.
>>3044229If you're talking about the citizens of Ail'vorith faction to gain access to the inner city you can kill goblins or outcasts to gain reputation.basically Seething means they will kill you on sight, at disdain they no longer attack but they wont talk or let you use their services either. the rank after disdain which I think is uneasy is the first reputation rank that allows you to interact with npcs and use banks and vendors.Just be aware that the grind to get out of seething will take 8+ hours, but the ranks after that are super quick.t. agnostic delf who went through the smugglers grind to turn friendly with nightharbor
>>3043908Gold? noso poor
doesn't help that the retards in NH think their dog shit named drop gear from Wyrmsbane is worth 50+ silver
Dookie drops from the dook man himself
>>3044589> Brazil is technically “southern America” jajaja!
>>3044972>Alabunda
do we have a guild on trem
>>3045008supposedly
I leveled my wizard and ranger to lv 5 and wizard is just miserable, especially because I'm DE in the underdocks, what a terrible starting area.Should I persist or wizard is as unfun as it has been? The class fantasy is my favorite and having gate and soulbind is really good, but damn...
>>3045008Whisper Bigtwiggy of <wRectal Prolapse>
>>3045008this but Estaire
>>3045027wizard supposedly gets good at 8 which iirc is the level you unlock their magic missiles that restore mana on nuking or whateverstick it out until then because its a serious game changer
>>3045027use a big ass stick and use your shitty ass nuke to pull with
Is there a chance I'll enjoy this game if I didn't have a good time playing Pantheon? I don't mind retro visuals and paced combat, but the no map, exp loss, corpse run, and almost impossible to progress without a group was a bit too hardcore.Also is enchanter the faceroll class here? kinda want to get a low maintenance role or a healer that's not ass by herselfThanks in advance.
>>3045065thats exactly what this game is.
>>3045065>but the no map, exp loss, corpse run, and almost impossible to progress without a group was a bit too hardcore.All those things are here too. I'm the kind of person who doesn't even mind that shit but the game is too garbage even for me and I'm just wasting time until my sub lapsesSo no I don't think there's a chance you'll enjoy this game
>>3045065This is Pantheon but the devs aren't clueless coke brained retards
>>3045065>herselfLondon>>3045077>coke brained retardsrip Brad never did find out how he died but i think we all know
>>3045087keith richards wouldn't share the good shit
>>3045077Yeah, they don't have the sub count to afford coke.
>>3045092whippets and carburetor cleaner
>>3045095brake cleaner and brake dust woof
>>3045027wizturd gets better but you gotta struggle. underdocks is okay because you get 3 bags for free if you are a broke bitch.
Consolation prize desu
>>3045099flavour text on items is fun
>>3045077>aren't clueless coke brained retardsEvery thread until you accept it.
>>3045099what mob are you farming for this?I'm too lazy to go to the welf area for timbrefang
>>3045125it's in the uhh chat window
>>3045128oh I filter that shit out in screenshots, my bad
Where all can non-casters be soulbound?Just cities? Or are there some other zones that allow it?
Alright a little over a week in, I just don't think this game's for me.That early period was extremely fun, like levels 1-10, where there's all sorts of exploration going on and everything's new and you can find little nooks and crannies.But as I've gotten closer and closer to 20, I feel like the game has slowed down in a very negative way, I'm having to spend 2-3 hours at a time just sitting in one spot farming the same mobs for any sense of progression, I can roam around but can no longer fight random mobs I might come across, the differentiation in level is far too great, I'm just left reliant on others, which is okay, just not really my style.I really really enjoy the crafting system. That is the coolest shit ever, and I lament that if I do come back in a year or two when some updates have dropped, everything will be found and there will be 0 mystery in it. But that's impossible to really avoid.thanks for the groups on eu, everyone
>>3045132Just ask someone to bind your hole
>>3045138did you try the guild thing out? curious how that went if so
>>3045092>yfw you are John Smedley and you get [100: Speech]'d by Brad McFuckin' McQuaid of all people for $40mill toward Vanguard
>>3045143What guild thing?I joined a guild (not NFA though, I got propositioned pretty much as soon as I spawned in and figured why not cause I wasn't sure the audience here would have enough for a guild)it was basically just a glorified chat and they recently made a discord so it died and nobody was talking and since I didn't join the discord my time was probably limited anyway.
>>3045148goddamn thats exactly why i canceled my sub. was hoping i might have been foolhardy but seems not so much.
trem hasn't been right since that maintenance a few days ago, this server hiccuping is straight up unbearable
>>3045138I'm on Trem and I've had the exact opposite experience. I get great exp groups within 20 minutes of logging in tops, and we all crush. I've been getting at least one level and a bunch of cash every time I've logged in. Sorry bwo
>>3045196wat level and class bwo
>>3045196it's not difficulty in finding groups, it's the very concept of having to sit in one spot just fighting the same mobs over and over, where moving is a death sentence. I think I was expecting the game to open up a bit more as I leveled, but reading ahead and asking people the skills seem to be pretty locked in by my level and then you just get upgrades from here on out and that's super grim to me.
>>304519818 wiz
>>3045202I hear the raid scene is different but yeah, that's what we did in EQ, sadly.
if you hate the grouping youre going to hate the raiding
>>3045202>it's the very concept of having to sit in one spot just fighting the same mobs over and over, where moving is a death sentence.I literally warned them about this horrible gameplay loop in their discord something like a year ago and just got some snide shithead dev more or less saying "that's how we do this in EQ"It was around that time where I figured this game wasn't going to be for me, I tried it out and yeah it's just eq1 but somehow worse because at least eq1 eventually took its head out of its ass about some things
>>3043340They've earned almost half a million dollars in a week. Let me know when your game comes out, anon.
how does the perfect full group look like once you get past the solo part of the game? what's the class that you really like to see when you join a group?
>>3045335>a weekHow long has it been development for, dofus?
>>3045336If we're fighting targets that are +3~4 levels then I want a Shaman. I think your chance of wiping goes way down.
>>3045336>perfect full groupno such thingperfect group looks something likepaladin/SK tank (paladin can either self heal or SK can fear)wizard/necromancer dpsOPTIONAL: bard/ranger (cc and more damage and movespeed with some light out of combat healing)basically you just want a couple hybrids that can make killing white/yellows smooth and continuous and layer on the DPS
>>3045344so no dedicated healer?
>>3045356I'm not saying that groups with dedicated healers are bad or whatever, what I am saying is that the goal is to run tight and efficient with as few people as possible, and most healers do not contribute the DPS needed to justify their presence unless you are willing to do harder mobs, which in turn necessitates more peopleI would rather have 2 or 3 people and one of them be a hybrid healer like a Paladin (good tanking), Ranger (good dps), or Bard (good kit) than have like a dedicated healer. The idea here is you are just pulling whites and only need to survive long enough to blast them down, at which point you can just use "downtime healing" like with a Bard heal song
>>3045369Hmm... Not in my EQ.
>>3045369this is the crux of it yeah, the devs really incentivize going super light for groups, 2 people, 3 absolute max, anything more and the split of exp becomes abysmal and no longer worth it unless you're all soloing shit simultaneously (I think there's a small group boost?)It's interesting, for sure. I want to see how it works out later on with harder dungeons and the raid and stuff.
>>3044661Their damage shields are equal
Do people like enchanters?
>>3045336>fighter/paladin>chanter/bard>cleric/shaman>spellblade>bm>ele
>>3045356Absolutely don't listen to that clueless shitter, healers are 100% mandatory
>>3045369I can tell from this you axe max lvl 20 desu. Ranger is not a good dps and you'd have to kite without a healer because no tank can sustain against a white con without a healer in fucking 3 man
>>3045394People like their buffs and cc, they hate them as persons.
>>3045416That's fine, I'm used to that! As long as I can buff people that's what matters. I was asking cause I made an Enchanter too after I was playing my Elementalist earlier.
>>3045414I can tell from this you never leveled in betaKeep letting normgroids steal your xp and loot, cuck
>>3045425>Elementalistthose dudes are more fun in a group than i would have thought. assuming dickheads arent hogging loot.
what's the point of endurance btw? why can't i spam jump? do these boomer devs hate fun or something
>>3045447If you run diagonally and jump you have slightly higher than normal speed and can use it to outpace mobs who otherwise chase you to the ends of the fucking earthIt's not a very obvious or well designed system, like most things in this game
>>3045447in eq it was yellow mana for some abilities/stances and i think it technically drained while you autoattacked but this stopped being a factor early on
>>3045332That camp-based leveling is the whole reason I'm playing this game
>>3045451>If you run diagonally and jump you have slightly higher than normal speedand how am i supposed to know thisthis is not good game design
>>3045452I 'member when cleric zap for stamina was valued
>>3045461you dont even have to jump. you just lock your camera and strafe run diagonally. you know this because it works like this is most games that dont correct this behavior.
>>3045454I'm not even saying you shouldn't be able to do that, but I am saying that there's no way to achieve a more engaging leveling experience without shooting yourself in the foot with a shotgun>"Hey bwos lets explore while we level haha :DD">No incentive to roaming vs finding a good camp so you earn less xp/hour>More likely to die in an unknown area necessitating hours of fucking effort to find your corpse>Mobs chase you to zone lines so you better goddamn have SoW and know your way towards the closest zone line if you ever pull something you can't handleDon't ever try to gaslight me about how this is supposed to be a game about exploration. Literally every system in the game heavily punishes exploring the brave frontier and incentivizes safe familiar play with zero counterbalancing, so the optimal play is literally just to play in safe camps killing the same familiar monsters for hours on end using one of the most uninteractive combat systems that exists. It's horrendously gay for anyone who plays a game to actually play a game and not have fucking netflix going on or eating a sandwich or some dumb shit.
Everquest? More like Evercamp lmao got em
>>3045472we don't do that in eq
>>3045466nice try but they fixed strafe running like 7 months ago
>>3045475everquest but what if instead of camping to log out you camped to log in...
>>3045477We do on solo servers.
>>3045478SO WHY IS THERE AN ENDURANCE BAR TO CAP MY JUMPS/H
>>3045483they will do more with it "at some point"
>>3045451diagonal staffing speed boost was definitely an EQ thing
>>3045478works 5 me
Everquest? Well, where are the bloody quests?!
>>3045487that's why we used to have it but people somehow managed to convince shawn it's stupid
>>3045491its called everquest not everquests
>>3045491the N is silent
>>3045491the name means the whole game is a never ending quest, not that you do quests
>>3045501But questgiver.. I want a quest.. I promise I'm ready for one...!
>tfw my sack so fat with loot people think im roleplaying
what is it with autists and not wanting to party up?hit multiple spots this morning and either been ushered out for "level gap" (2 level gap is too much apparently) and then straight up ignored by people when you show up with lfg onAutism??
>>3045542sorry bwo you aint in the 'cord
>>3045542should have rolled on EU server baka
>cleric can actually summon foodhuh my entire roleplay shtick was being a hungry healer who heals for scraps
>>3045569pretty retarded rp idea desu, when have priests ever been poor when they have goys to grift?
>>3045574nigga the fuck do you think a vow of poverty is
>>3045574i mean everybody starts out as a beggar in nig harbor or a reanimated corpse in underdocks you cant just go "nuh uh me got money"
>>3045574also the plural of "goy" is "goyim" and not "goys" you fucking newfag gb2r
How many people be ERPing do you think? I've already noticed an unexpectedly high number of seemingly bio-fem players. I'm not actually sure whether that would increase or decrease ERP relative to the more typical tranny furry playerbase
>>3045602you're delusional
>>3045472I've given some thought to these things before and my conclusion was that if you have an open game without instancing, the itemization has to be radically changed. When specific items drop from specific mobs, there is no adventure, only camping, which results in very little exploration and a whole lot of antagonism between players as they fight for camps (especially on non-PvP servers, where assholes act like assholes to YOU but then turn around and gladhand or pay off GMs to make decisions in their favor).But my opinion doesn't matter, I'm not a dev, just a dumbass.
>>3045548this is on EU! wanted to punch a mf
>>3045606NTA but i can see this game having a decent foid popnow, it will probably be triple digits kg unwashed smelly catladies but still
>>3045621Nah, you're just straight up delusional, women get oneshot by FF's social sim elements.This has none of that.
>>3045621What race do you think they'll play.. I hope it won't be Deep Gnomes. I don't want to share my race with fo*ds.
>>3045614should have joined the guild
>>3045629Can you invite someone to the guild from afar or do they have to be next to you?
>>3045631yes
>>3045635Thank you for the blanket answer, I will cherish it.
>>3044484>You're "supposed" to run into the same people often enough that it eventually stops being awkward but that's simply not true.>tfw almost had this starting in AVFor the first couple days I ran into the same people and sorta made friends but once we were all 10+ people started heading to UD and beyond. As I headed out as well I ran into a couple of them but only partied again with one.
>>3045649if youre on eu and play daytime UD is still always the same familiar faces
>>3045636just tell us your name so we can invite you retard
>>3044521Why didn't they just root the fucking mobs?
>using furry human like face features for the bats face
>>3045654uWu
>>3045654Cute!
>>3045027I wanted to like wizard but casting in this game doesn't feel good enough. With the jank of fizzles and cooldowns and zero prediction it just feels like shit to play. The fantasy they have is great and the utility is as well. I even love the idea of using glyphs to have a huge arsenal of spells available. I just can't play it. Hoping it improves as time goes on.Then again playing Spellblade it is absolutely miserable if you want to do anything but group. Like sure I can solo blues one by one even at 15+ but it is slow and I have to regen after each pull to be safe. Pulling two is either a death sentence or very near to one and leads to minutes of sitting on my ass to recover.
>Cinder Beetle Sentinel is light blue>still cant fear it
>>3045672it has boss immunity to all cc
>>3045673how can you tell if something has boss immunity? Is there a message for it or?
>>3045680trial and error
>skelechud is way tankier than any tank I have ever seen
>>3045691
>>3045202>>3045332Feels like some places should have been designed for roaming parties instead of camping. Not sure how to pull off both though.>>3045472>>3045612It might help if the world was more dynamic. If mobs didn't just pop back in out of nowhere. This camping thing doesn't really feel like a dungeon crawl as you make your way into a spot and stop there. What if the mobs spawned in various places in the depths of the dungeon and slowly made their way to the outer parts. Then you could have actual parties pushing towards those depths and then you put the named monsters in there. The dungeons have enough complexity that there's multiple paths to take which should leave enough room for multiple parties to be in there simultaneously. Then a camping party would be one that pulls the mobs as they come through.It really is quite annoying how you are discouraged of exploring or trying to do things alone or taking any risks because of the huge price you have to pay if you make a mistake. I think I would like it more if I could prepare with items and consumables to make it so that in case of a fuck up or dangerous situation I'm not just dead, that I could still find a way that's not just run to zoneline.Feels like the fantasy sort of breaks down once you realize how it is.
>>3045335>half a million>for a team of 49 peopleThat's a commercial disaster. I assume the first 200k or whatever it was will be used to pay back whoever put their money towards the development. Not sure what their monthly upkeep is for the servers but after the impending sub drop next month they won't be able to afford to pay everyone a reasonable salary. They might maybe pull it off this month.
That reminds me. How does it make sense to release what's still just a beta game as early access? Doesn't having to run multiple servers full time plus legal obligations for collecting money add a huge amount of overhead on what's still a volunteer team?No matter how many subs they get right now they'd better hold onto that money forever because that money will have to go into things that aren't done by volunteers.
>>3045602>>3045621>actual women>in this gamelmao no
>>3045720The team spent roughly 150k out of pocket over the past 6 years of developing this game. Shawn said on stream that he and Ali don't mind getting paid back slowly over time once things have stabilized or even at all. They'll be fine
>>3045531are you the dirty exploiter that's causing the servers to come down?>>3045542i dont know man i was in my first party finally and it was a lot of fun. very competent players.
I wanna party with people soon too..
>>3045626>Deep Gnomestheir goth chicks are really cute but probably not pretty enough for foids. hopefully in your case anyway. the girls in this game are ugly.
>>3045629you guys permaband dudu and i will consider it
>>3045746we are dudu positive guild
>>3045746dudu is harmless, stop being autistic
>>3045735That number doesn't make sense. That would basically mean none of them are paying themselves any form of wage and it's pure hobbyist and that the 150k was just server expenses. I always thought m &m was like five people tops. The game has 27k active subs and this is likely the maximum peak. That cannot sustain 49 people.
>>3045751>That would basically mean none of them are paying themselves any form of wage and it's pure hobbyistThat is exactly what it is. No one got paid, it was all volunteer work. Shows how you know absolutely nothing about the project you're talking about
>>3045753Then that anon is right and >That's a commercial disasterAnd you shouldn't have brought it up as any form of gotcha.
>>3045704There's a lot of systems that would need to be revised to make a more engaging gameplay experience. 'Players exploring the world and fighting monsters' should have been a fundamental desired gameplay loop; making navigation skills (sense heading, various spells that give you a true north facing) and demanding attention from players to navigate in your game (by virtue of not giving them any maps) and yet not having them spend time navigating most of the time except between 'camps' was a stupid boomerism that should not have withstood serious scrutiny.At the bare minimum, mobs should provide more xp and maybe even loot the longer they persist in the game world, like what Dark Age of Camelot did. People absolutely camped in Dark Age of Camelot, but if you were in a moderately unpopulated zone, there was also a big incentive to roam the zone and clear out mobs that have persisted for a while for a ton of bonus xp. You could tweak numbers as needed dependent on population to achieve a desired way of interacting with the game so it's not too minor (leading to people to not care and just camp anyway) and not too major (leading to people never wanting to camp). There's other ways of designing it that could achieve a similar gameplay loop, but I think that is the simplest to apply and results in the best resultThis is all screaming into the wind though. I've had this conversation on da 'cord and the devs don't care and aren't interested. Fundamentally they just picture it as a geriatric alt tab sort of game. It's sad to see but its their game, so not my problem.
>>3045759we don't do that in eq
>>3045654furfaggotry disgusts me but that doesn't really look that bad
>>3045735Ali is some oil prince isn't he?
>>3045704>What if the mobs spawned in various places in the depths of the dungeon and slowly made their way to the outer parts. Then you could have actual parties pushing towards those depths and then you put the named monsters in there. The dungeons have enough complexity that there's multiple paths to take which should leave enough room for multiple parties to be in there simultaneously. Then a camping party would be one that pulls the mobs as they come through.I could have sworn that background lore of sword art online had something like this. It's a great concept if you different groups of players to contribute to dungeon runs while not really interacting in a conventional trinity.
>>3045759sounds like you want a different game
>>3045751I started as a few people but it grew over time. They haven't been getting any wages yet.
Come home, White man. https://www.soloquest.net/
>>3045772I wanted a well designed and engaging one. Sadly, we dont do that in eq
>>3045785Stop fighting green mobs as a group of 6 people and it'll be engaging. The game is as engaging as you make it
>group wants to kill animalsnope, I want money as much as I want xp
>>3045784cringe
>>3045784based
>>3045784sad, pathetic
>>3045621People would be surprised, my friend group playing this game is 4 foids 3 of them are american sized though and 3 lads
>>3045784cool, awesome
>>3045795in my experience EQ and EQ2 (not pservers because those give foids the ick) had a larger female population than mmos in average since these games are more social and foids love to yap
>>3045800all the foids who have any interest in MMOs went to ESO because it's piss easy and has pretty princess dressup and house decorator simulators
>>3045803I severely doubt this since eso is one of those solo mmos with no social aspect
>>3045805>if you aren't forced to group you never socializethis is dumb. was there no social aspect to UO? besides, most of the socialization is on discord even for mnm.
>>3045805>no social aspectyou can join up to like 5 guilds and all guilds have a discord. brother they are smothered with social aspects.
>>3045787so true sister *sits waiting for my 5 damage button to come off its 30s cd*
>>3045816we do that in eq
>>3045816we call that sandwich combat, retard
I love to yap too. I apologize ahead of time if I ever group with any of you.
>>3045822my problem boils down to how i dont want to eat a sandwich, i want to play a game :(
>>3045830we don't do that in eq
w-what did he do in the bathouse to deserve this?
Any of you fuckers leveling blacksmithing on EU?
what tank should I roll?
Some other tired Deep Gnome walked up next to my equally tired Deep Gnome. He looks like a lil grandpa.
>>3045861paladin is probably the best overall tank now
>>3045872whys that?
>>3045878they have good utility with self heal and damage procs
>>3045861Paladin is a great defensive tank. Handles chip damage like a champ, spot heals reasonably well, has utility vs undead, and later gets rezShadow Knight is the best puller among the tanks and has some reasonable offensive spells, plus a little pet which has some niche utility (mostly just off tanking for a bit)Inquisitor has anti caster utility (kind of big in a game where casters are some of the toughest mobs to fight) and gets crowd control, which is pretty big because other tanks struggle to handle more than 1 or 2 or so mobs at a timeFighter supposedly has the most raw dps of the tanks but only if it's the one tanking. I honestly didn't see many people playing one so idk
>>3045759I think rolling back the clock to EQ was the right idea because of how wrong the genre went with WoW and games that came after it but it is a shame that they stopped at EQ and didn't try to find a new direction. I hope that this game being a thing will give rise to new projects that try to re-evolve the genre.>At the bare minimum, mobs should provide more xp and maybe even loot the longer they persist in the game worldThat is an interesting concept. I think it would go well with a more dynamic spawning system. If you couldn't camp endlessly because an area would run out of mobs and at the same time long living mobs became more rewarding. You could even make it that some of long living mobs turn into nameds and get special loot.>>3045772Nta and I'm enjoying the game for what it is but I can't help to feel that the genre could be so much more.
>>3045902fighter has like 5% more physical mitigation than other tanks so it'll probably be the raid main tank but for grouping they feel terrible with their zero utility
>>3045784This is just stupid.
>>3045917>Making a "main raid tank" classI hate these developers so much it's genuinely unreal
>>3045843walked into the orgy room uninvited
>>3045933we do that in eq, but honestly modern players are not going to fall for that bs and fighter will only mt if they have higher dps than sk because 5% mit means jack and shit
>>3045784This is just amazing.
>>3045784holy kino https://www.soloquest.net/downloads.html#music
>>3045917modern day tanking isn't about mitigation, it's about how much damage you bring and how much you can increase the damage of your party. As long as you don't get 1 shot, you'll be fine
>>3045915>If you couldn't camp endlessly because an area would run out of mobs and at the same time long living mobs became more rewardingMy thing is I wouldn't want to eliminate camping because the reality is that there are plenty of people who engage that way and enjoy it. It represents a "casual" form of engagement for the game and that's fine. My problem is m&m doesn't offer any way to engage with the game in a more stimulating way.
>>3045805eso might be the most social mmo I ever played with every city being an rp cirlejerk hub with massive taverns. Now players might not be as social as they once were, but that's not specific to the game.
>>3046031the only thing I hate about ESO is how they have like a million different instanced phases for each area, just like GW2, and there's no real way to visit each channel aside from teleporting to a party member.
>>3046054I hate ESO because single player Skyrim is 100 times better and isn't a MTX ridden cashout. Fuck Bethesda and Zenimax for ruining what is one of the best franchises.
>>3045933Fighter also generates a metric fuck Ron of threat but has otherwise very limited utility. It's like rogue, great top tier DPS, fuck all for utility.
>>3045861In order of funsies DK > Paladington > Fighter > Inquisitor unless you really just like using your quizzy to fuck mages in the butt.
Cleric = sit and heal oomDruid = sit and heal oomShaman = sit and heal oomWe need a clothie healer. A blood mage.
>>3046054ESO is the culmination of everything that went wrong with MMOs. It is truly slop.
>>3046109I like being in total control of the fight as inqif things go south fighter can do literally nothing
>>3046109Inquisitor is fun and cool af and if it could solo any faster than a glacial pace I would play it.
>>3045985I think you could balance it such that a camp would have to relocate every now and then. Maybe somewhere in the 1-2 hour range. Not necessarily to move to a whole other zone but a different spot. Just to avoid people sitting in the "optimal" camps all through their leveling experience.
>>3046114they would have been better off stealing Vanguard classes than the Everquest ones
>>3046099rogue didn't deserve the deep dive it got
>>3045759I wonder what a heat map of the world would look like at the end of the month. Of course they'd never show that to us because MAPS. but.. I think it would be interesting to see just how 'open world' this MMO is shaping up to be.
>be healslut>get constant tells begging me to join their groupsfeels good, reminder that healers are only overpopulated sub 20
>>3046150>Rogue gets poisons they'll never use outside of raids>Rogue gets a couple buttons to push (they're almost all mutually exclusive with eachother btw lol)>Rogue can stealth gooderidk mandoes anyone actually enjoy how this class sounds?
>>3046242Some people want to do some if not the highest damage in the game.
>>3046242rogue used to be the ultimate money maker with turning 6c snake venom glands into x2 60c toxinsthen they nerfed toxins to be 6cthe poisons themselves are complete ass and the least interesting part of the class
>>3046259yeah and those people rolled spellblades
>>3046275>spellbladewe... don't do that in eq?
>>3046272>poisons themselves are complete ass and the least interesting part of the classThat's how we do it in EQ
>>3046287that's why spellbalde is one of the best classes because they are not shackled to 99 class design
>>3046292They unshackled quite a few classes from 1999 EQ design. Paladin has become possibly the best tank.
just ragequit tarkov due to hackers running rampantneed a new game nowplayed MnM a number of times over the past year, i quite enjoyed it. havent played since March?how is the game now? worth getting into?sorry for not reading the thread, i am filled with rage and regret. seems like you lot are enjoying it from my cursory glance
>>3045861not shadow knight because shadow knight specialize in nothing.>paladins specialize in off-heals and have the same rezzes clerics have>fighters specialize in being the most beefy tank in the game>shadow knights specialize in nothingTo be clear, Shadow Knights are in this state because they are unfinished, they are meant to be hunters of the undead and to gain abilities based on their hunts and to get new pets from their hunts or some shit like this but none of this is in the game yet.
>>3045606i hate to tell you but mmorpgs are the only game genre women have ever been naturally attracted to. EQ was filled with biofoids being retards(sexual predators looking for underaged boys on the internet)
>>3046331>SK that are evil motherfuckers often working with or controlling undead>supposed to be undead hunters>when paladin existsMake it make sense.
>>3046321it's been improved massively since march, highly recommend if you even remotely like oldschool mmorpgs
You people say this is an EQ clone, so then it's actually possible to level solo with some crazy kiting for some classes? I've never played EQ but I remember mentions of some class being able to solo to some degree.
>>3046347yes soloing past lvl 20 means some kind of kiting because mobs will be too strong ot take head onnecro is the best at this
>>3046359Bard and Enchanter are the best soloers
>>3046338Early access bwo, that means you are supposed to pay for a beta and that's acceptable
>>3046362naaah, necro leads the solo race atm
>>3046373if what >>3041637said is true then there is no way necro is even close to bard unless they deliberately gimped charm kill exp.
>>3046374charm needs high charisma to not break in 5 seconds so reverse charming drains your manabar too much to be efficient
you do know negro can reverse charm too, right?
>>3046378>not break in 5 secondspull more mobs?
>>3046388Yeah but only Undead
>>3046395which are always some of the best mobs to kill
>>3046408Uh that's not how we did it in EQ
>>3046420frog dungeon full of frogs and... undead frogs...hmmmm.....
>>3046331I don't want to talk about what I wish classes would do because I would just disappoint myself when they never happen.I think there's room to maintain the EQ group-based grind gameplay but still give classes more to do than autoattack + 1 push button that accounts for 5% of your damage for 90 levels (and without it turning into ABC WoW spam).But it's still only a week into the public release, they don't even have all content out yet nor have they fixed basic bugs in what content they do have. Who knows what they will do when they get to a hypothetical 1.0 on their internal roadmap.
>>3046338Aren't they supposed to be monster hunters in general? They're like Witchers or something.
>>3046487do monster hunters usually hang out with a green zombie?
>>3046487That's what was said in the deep dive preview, but the actual deep dive didn't change much and made them spirit suckers instead of necromancers with swords
>>3046491depends. also it's a ghoul
>>3046483I got a shadow knight to lvl45 in the 2025 alpha and the only difference between then and now with them is their pet (which is a placeholder) is worse, they get interrupted more, grip no longer single splits mobs, and fear no longer works on named. No work has gone into Shadow Knights for at least over a fucking year. I told them the shield feels cosmetic and we get no shield skills which is still the case, we get the same weapons as fighters and fighters can duelwield them making using one feel like this (other game made knight other weapons with better ratios to make up for this)
>>3046242before it got shit on it was actually kind of a cool class but eq faggots wanted useless eq rogue that only presses backstab couple times a minute
>>3046573we do that in eq though
How are we this morning /mnmg/?
>>3046586why is lvl 30 farming low lvl junk?
>>3046321still very unfinished but if you enjoyed it already then I think you'll be fine
>>3046338idk what the fuck they were in eq but the spin they have for it in mnm is that they are monster hunters and gain power from those monsters once the systems get implemented
>>3046586You should give that stuff to me.
Is it worth having enemy Gates go through? Do the gated mobs give XP?
Where's a good place to hunt at 18? Both solo and in group?
>>3046659sangrels
>>3046642Meet behind Wbank
orc genocide!
foid here faggotsthis game is alright, deep gnome is the foid race though, sorry to that one necrodo want to point out I've seen zero mention of AOA - Adrullan Online Adventures here. it's way better than this fuckass game and is actually trying to evolve from being just a p99 clone.next (free) test is at the start of November, be there and be square
>>3046764you will never be a woman
>>3046764I'm gonna check it out assuming the toaster I am currently on can run the game.
>>3046764join the EU guild sis!
>>3046782i wish! life would be better as a dude cause then you'd be sucking my cock 24/7go kiss boys faggot and leave some for me
>>3046686awh shit, Yohan is level 31?I remember grouping up with him at like level 3 or 4 to kill cultists for some noobie quest in Ail'vorith
>>3046806>>>/lgbt/
>>3046764I don't want to play a game that looks like minecraft
>>3046764I don't care about graphics but I do care about art styleI shan't ever play aoa
>>3046835>>3046852based af
>>3046764adrullan isn't released
>>3046821>>3046852I think the art style is horrid too but the game did nearly everything correctly in the first test I played and eventually it grew on mewhether you try it or not I hope you have fun with whatever you end up playingpersonally this game grinds my gears and I will be going back to ultima>>3046916except you, you're too retarded to read apparently, worst wishes to you
>>3046922go back to the shadow
>>3046491think hes just a leftover
>>3046922>going back to ultimaEnjoy your macro and script riddled hellscape
>>3046764Do it be hairy down there?
>>3046272>the poisons themselves are complete ass and the least interesting part of the classI cannot stand how true this is.
>>3046272>the poisons themselves are complete ass and the least interesting part of the classquite literally how they did it in eq until 6 expacs in or something. archer really shouldnt exist and they shouldve just gave rogue their abilities.
sovl
meaningful sovlful friction...
>>3046764tits or gtfo
>>3047056i deleted various assets and no longer have to deal with this
What stats are important for bard? Cha seems like a given, but anything else notable?
>>3047125dex
got bard to nearly 20 and feel like if i don't play something else im dropping the game, i love it conceptually and liked it in eq but somehow it feels even worse here, the auto melody thing feels sloppy and weird especially with how for some reason any offensive song fucks it up so bad (no clue why they can't just stack normally and you have to play them constantly in both party and solo play anyway so you might as well just manually twist 95% of the time like before), the fact anytime you hit the next song too fast there's a chance it'll uselessly 'eat' the next several seconds of your time giving you error messages when you try to play ANY song until an invisible cast bar completes, and the fact that every fucking party i join the leader fucking instantly leaves and no one but me can stand any responsibility and it's fucking impossible to try to wrangle invites and give people directions and hold their hand while they eat their sandwiches with the other while buffing, debuffing, pulling, familiarizing myself with new area layouts, DPSing, CCing etc. all optimally by putting the right instrument in the slot whenever possible i want something simpler and less broken but not overly boring, was considering a tank, or maybe another puller like monk where i can have an at least mildly active playstyle while still being able to socially wrangle a bunch of 40-year-old baby-men who are too shy to communicate with each other normally. I was leaning toward fighter as tank since it seems cool, I haven't seen any at all in any of my parties and I could kit him out in bronze and iron and a couple statted plate drops i have sitting in bank but I worry it'd be TOO boring and low-APM, pld and shd are by far the most populated tanks and are less-cool in comparison to me and inquis I was waiting on Deep Dwarf to tryas for YOUR question i say stay with cleric because 90% of healers wanna be le ebin sow-having shaman/druid and we sorely sorely need as many rez-havers as possible
>>3047122b-but the SOVL?
>>3047137meant to reply to >>3044141
>>3047141deleting assets and changing them is what we did in EQ
>>3047152gonna delete brown skin and replace it with a white texture
>>3047166do not do that my child
>sovldoes this game even have a cat room?
>>3047184you cant even pet dogs in this game...
what do i do when i cant find a group... help... help me
>>3047310class?level?server?sex?
>>3047310roll a necromancer
>>3045864Tired deep gnome is bis
>>3047137but your solo reverse charming swarm kiting?
>>3047383what about nonplussed gnome
>>3047310Make one
>>3047407Too extreme for a permanent face
>>3047407>mouthbreatherlmao
i wish ogres would stop being so fucking fat and stupid
d-deep...
>>3047553just like your a-
no one will tell me where to grind at lv 18..
>>3047575/lfg on Need fat xp pls invite
>>3047575https://monstersandmemories.miraheze.org/wiki/Per-Level_Hunting_Guide
>>3047632damn does no one play in underdocks
we made it through the orc mine!
>>3047644it's beta info, no one's explored UD and the deep yet so nothing is listedthere's a lot more places to level than what you see there, the wiki is extremely lacking
>this sells for only 25copper while cracked staffs sell for 5snone of this shit makes sense
>>3047779we do that in eq
>>3047779it makes perfect sense when you consider cracked stuff sold for a lot in eq
>almost 28k subs
>>3047910sub count keeps going upplayer count keeps going downlots of people getting roped in and then leaving in a dayfunny
>>3047927goodlet the goycattle pay for my game
>>3045472> Literally every system in the game heavily punishes exploring the brave frontier and incentivizes safe familiar playBecause there is 2,000 other pussies (like you) playing it safe so you can’t get a named or even a regular mob if you don’t explore.
>>3045472This is what optimizing the fun out of things looks like.
>>3047982it's just fanfiction written by a sub lvl 20I fucking dare anyone do lvl 30 content wihtout a tank and healer
i just spent an hour and a half looking for a group, finding a lone paladin my level, and getting up to all kinds of invis shenanigans with him, ending with us finding a good camp, trying to solo it, then getting assfucked by adds! the thing is, now we know about the camp and what we need, where it is, and how difficult it is expected to be, so all-in-all we were both happy. met a new friend and found a new camp. this is the kind of shit I play the game for and this is how it was in EQ. maybe you guys are just too jaded, cynical, and gay to appreciate emergent things like this??
>>3047180In retrospect, the idea of making Yakub a playable race was incredibly based.
>>3047927Clearly the sub count isn't going to decrease until subscriptions actually expire or are not renewed one month later.
>>3047927daily active and monthly active player counts keep going uptrem is lagging more and more every day
>>3048092Not just Trem. I had nothing but lag today.
>>3045472Yeah it's almost impossible to skulk around in a dungeon unless you are a wood elf druid/ranger/rogue
>>3048041Ah well. Dev costs have been recovered many times over. We'll see when subs stabilize in a few months if 600-800 online average is good enough.
are all banks connected? can i transfer stuff between characters?
>>3048148No.
Outta the three tanks whats the highest to lowest DPS? Id assume Shadow Knight is the highest with lifetap spams but thats what eight casts then they oom? So not factoring that short burst window whats the highest to lowest? I also heard Inquisitor is the lowest DPS class in the game period so guessing they are at the bottom?
>>3046764>t. ranny
>>3047137>the fact anytime you hit the next song too fast there's a chance it'll uselessly 'eat' the next several seconds of your time giving you error messages when you try to play ANY song until an invisible cast bar completesI'm not sure if the issue I ran into was the same on wizard but hitting a spell even slightly too early erroring out felt like shit. Couldn't play a caster because of that.
>>3048158ah shit so to use the shared slots i need to go to the same teller?
>>3048142>Dev costs have been recovered many times over.the 150k for six years figure is essentially nonsense that can't be used as a metric for going forward unless they intend to run this as a two or three man hobby project.
>>3047407>>3047429>>3047492Wish you got to choose eyes and mouth separately.
>>3048250cant even choose a different hair style
>>3048245can be in a same city and I think underdocks is linked to the rest of the NH but if you are either of the elves you have to use their bank
>>3047779Isn't that a really good early one hander? Does it drop from the easthymnite guys in NH?
>>3048259It dropped off Belot in the Underdocks
>>3047998Based. Sometimes the adventure makes up for the xp loss.
>>3048265Oh that asshole. He usually doesn't drop anything but some quest item.
>>3048275He also drops this
>>3048268not anon, but it's been fun discovering exp camps that people have established. all you have to do is roll up to one and the invites come. the lower level experience is gratifying because groups arent picky (except for healer) which im sure will change.
>>3048294Fuck I don't wanna go back to UD to farm him.
dead threadIt's over
>>3048611the /vm/ schizo just isn't spammin right now
What’s some early wis gear that doesn’t involve wyrmsbane
>>3048216SK is probably supposed to be the highest, but since it's incomplete I don't think it is rn. Fighter with dw/triple attack is probably higher.
>>3048611im grindin
>>3048294>useful low level magic items we don't do that in EQ
>>3048669damn all these people kill stealing
>>3048633I also want to know!
>>3048611>tfw thread is dead cause everyone's enjoying playing the game
>the fastest thread on the board is le dead
In order to revive the thread, post your own personal class tier list
WE KEDGE KEEP NOW
>>3048888>mobs literally T-posing
>>3048888>stunned batheryou grind fighting game fans?
worth buying a horse?
>>3048858>SSnegro>Sshaman, spellblade, paladin, BM, enchanter>Awizard, ele, bard, cleric, sk, inq>Branger, rogue, dudu, monk >Carcher>Dfighter
>>3048915it's a glorified packmule that can dieavoid
>>3047395>swarm kitingtechnically possible but unbearably, unfathomably boring since you can only cast single target dots and doing it on each target between selos erm i mean travellers song just gets old a lot faster than eq, also swarm kiting in eq was super gay and lame, i preferred partying. also-also you can't do it to anything but dumb animals in large outdoor zones because every humanoid npc has some class that roots, charge-stuns or snipes you from 300 miles away and completely fucks you up, and all the monetary value is on humanoids.>reverse charmingno clue what that means and ive played eq on and off for a very long time. i just know normal charms were nerfed to normal pet class levels so normal charm kiting is only really effective up to maybe level 15 max then starts falling off rapidly>>3048241yea ive been talking and reading around and it seems to be a major recurring issue with any non-instant spell or skill and though most people are saying it's due to lag in overpopulated zones it's not. it was happening to me badly this morning at like 5am on us east 2 server in a big overworld zone with like 15 people in it
adrullan online adventures playable on November 1st
>>3048934lol
Deep Elf named John Shaft
>>3048031erudite was cool but they ruined them by making them blind and having one of the worst newbie zones in the game. they had nice looking armor textures too.
>>3048934you could play minecraft for 15 years dude, calm down
>>3048934that game has such a dog shit aesthetic
>>3048858ive only played about half of the available classes and most of that was in betas before they got reworks and most only up to level ~10-20 but in my experience and what i've seen and heard from others, capability + personal preference it'd go something like:1. druid (just as good at soloing and all the reasons people crave making one from EQ but now they can actually provide decent healing and value to a group much better AND get all the cool season shit...)2. enchanter (even with nerfed charms theyre incredible, soloing is slower but safer than eq and they're CRAVED in groups due to a hard need for good cc to save everyones shitty pulls + the buffs and mana regen)3. shaman (druid minus ports or as much damage but plus slows and canni)4. ranger (still a weird jack of all trades but actually really good after rework5. monk (basic, strong, fd is still the most powerful broken single skill in the game6. bard (they are kinda jank and hard/obnoxious to play but can do everything, a million get out of jail free cards, fastest foot speed and can actually kind of decently dps if geared and played right)7. wizard (all the mana regen memes now so it can actually be consistent, competitive dps instead of just a nuker + still having ports, allegedly more and better than druid even)8. cleric (still best healer, smites are broken and everyone and their dog is already begging constantly for rezzes so you'll probably get filthy rich just on un-asked-for tips)9. beastmaster (losing shaman spells sucks but they're very fucking strong and the new pet system rules and there are some strong pets with unique utility)10, 11: spellblade, archer (possibly the best DPS in the game atm and no one plays either of them)12, 13, 14, 15: all tanks (nothing special or OP but always sorely needed insta party invites. no one will be elitist about gear yet and you dont need to lead or pull in this game as one. inq might need a rework/buff but the rest all seem great atm)--
>>3048977>>304885816: elementalist (nothing really wrong with them and it's cool that they have stuff like group mana regen now but they're one of the classes i know least about. seem to be doing well enough.)17: necromancer (they can definitely solo well and safely but kinda slowly compared to other pet classes or dps that can mass kill single mobs. they bring utility to groups but it seems to be mostly weird and unnecessary so far and are likely the single least wanted/needed group class.)18: rogue (i have never seen a single fucking rogue in my entire time in EA and ive been playing like crazy since it opened. i guess theyre in character hiding. i know even with the changes to make them a bit more solo-friendly they're one of the least solo-friendly classes in the game and their value to a group is still mostly raw DPS they need good weapons for. also not much out of combat roguey stuff to do but drag corpses yet? and their CC was nerfed, right?)
>>3048998>also not much out of combat roguey stuff to do but drag corpses yet?I'm hoping that I will be able to sneak into a dungeon, lockpick a chest, and sneak back out
>>3046573>before it got shit on it was actually kind of a cool classWhat did they do? I swear I remember something like they got a wall scaling ability in one of the open betas but I never actually played one so I don't know if I'm hallucinating that or not
>>3049005there's a grappling hook that you get in like the 2nd Rog quest
>>3049002con'tand pickpocketing
>>3048969we do that in eq
>have 7g>can't buy any gear because all wisdom gear gets instantly scooped up by the hordes of sub lvl 20 subhumans
>>3047982It's the reality of how 99% of people play.Stop gaslighting me about "optimizing the fun out of things" when there's not a singular mechanic that actually incentivizes having fun and about 6 systems that penalizes it.>>3047990>The post doesn't talk about tanks or healers at allWhat cope is this?>>3047960The placeholder system for named mobs pretty much guarantees that unless you are willing to camp a place, you may not even see a named lmao. Imagine exploring all of Wyrmsbane when it first released and you happen to get unlucky enough that there isn't one named up during. Unless you choose to just camp there for 2 or more hours (I have literally been in parties that have camped named spawns for 3+ hours and not seen them pop once) you may not even see one, much less if you are doing what actual normal people imagine a dungeon diving experience looks like and killing a camp then moving on rather than sitting your fat ass there eating sandwiches for the next six hours.>No I swear this all changes at level 50 just drink the Kool aid like I did Lmao
>>3049065There are world named spawns in hidden away places lil gup. Now wait in line for your chance to solo farm content 10 levels lower than you. It’s the safe choice after all.
>>3048966adrullan nov 1
>>3049088adudu
>>3049088adrullan deez nuts
>>3049088Whose even making that crap desu and aren't they even a least bit embarrassed?
>Only two EQ-likes in production 27 years after the original release>You can only talk about one because modern internet discourse is hyper "me vs. them" narcissistic mentalitysasugaSure there's Pantheon but we all know how fast that money got sniffed up, gnomesayin?
>>3049083>There are world named spawns in hidden away places lil gup>Checks wikiOh yeah cool that makes all criticisms completely invalid and not a reality of the low level experience at all.Retard.
>>3049135You are welcome to make your own thread for your minecrap mmo but it's off topic here
>>3049135Honestly I wish Vanguard's budget hadn't gone up Brad's nose. That game had a lot of cool classes. Blood Mage was my jam
>>3049135you can only talk about M&M here because this is the M&M thread.
Goblin (male) or Deep Gnome (female) rogue?
>>3049183deep gnome female with massive tits
>>3049186How to increase tit size
>>3049183Deep gnome female is THE race to be
>>3048669><Covenant>
>>3049148>>3049170Surely you have been reporting the anons bringing up Everquest, sisters?
>>3049195what's worse, covenant or nihilum members?
>>3049201they're talking about the relationship between the two games. you are just a shill advertising.
>>3048249That's basically what they've said they envision though. They're pretty much a private server LARPing as a live service team.
>>3049209>this game is okay though because I said so>shillOf course, no reasoning with a newfag bot.
>>3048858>interesting to play tierSpellblade>jank casting dogshit tierEvery caster>mite be cool with new skill effects tierInquisitor, Paladin>mite be cool with new animations tierArcher, Ranger>mite be cool once mechanics actually in game tierShadow Knight>slow bonk & good boi tierBeastmaster>healslut cuck faggot slut tranny homo special olympics gay tierEvery healer>deserved better tierRogue>don't care tierIf I forgot someone they go in here
>>3049201>b-but what aboutThis is eq clone so eq is relevant, your shit is not.
>>3049213And that's a good thing
>>3049225>no other games allowed>except for THAT oneLol (at you not with you)
>>3049202both
>>3048611>dudu>we do that in EQJust read this post over and over again if you think the thread's moving too slow. You'll get the same experience you'd get from skimming the thread properly just without the blatant samefagging and shitposting.
>>3049195they everywhere, havent had much issue then what others have seen
>>3049228>Don't have the manpower to bring any of their visions to life (Wizard spell research, Shadow Knight monster studies, making Monk and Rogue actually interesting or fun)Is it though?
>>3049289You forgot>Taking $15/month from you while they continue to not do any of this
>>3049213shit you're righti love pserversi dont wanna pay $15 for onewhy did it become ok for devs to charge people to beta test their game
>>3049315Jews are right about goyim.
>>3049315>why did it become ok for devs to charge people to beta test their gameWith the introduction of "Early Access" (paid beta).
I played Adrullan before during one of their tests and it was super fun! I would love to play that with anons (in it's own proper, on-topic thread of course when it inevitably releases) but until then I will play Monsters and Memories! I'll probably play both though. They both hit differently for me but both in good ways. t Deep Gnome cutie if that helps
whats the main tactic wizards use to solo, root and nuke?
>>3049137> Checks wikiNigger you don’t play the game
Oh wow EU doesn't have very many no life boomers on it huh? 143 players to Trem's 2k+. I know the time difference and all, but dang.
Wizard is so fucking good it's unreal and I hope they don't change a damn thing. Glyph casting is pure fucking kino.
>>3049809>pure filmaverage everquest "sandwich equipped in the right hand" gamer
>>3048932>swarm kiting in eq was super gay and lameYou mean super cool and awesome. Highest risk/highest reward activity in any MMO ever. Only low T beta cucks think swarm kiting is lame
>>3049750Not anymore I done, the leveling to 20 experience was too fucking garbage and I have zero reason to believe it changes in any meaningful fashion
>>3049817Hey don't make fun of him, giving wizards the opportunity to utilize every spell in their book as long as the player learns the glyphs is the closest thing to skill expression these boomer devs have offered people
>go to red keep to farm diseased bats>turns night>undead everywhere>gates locked....
>>3049941>'TRAIN TO ZONE!'
is gate and porting even that good to justify playing a cucked ass class?
so for tailoring i just craft the red silk hats once the silk capes go green?
>>3049817>t. so socially retarded that even internet idiosyncrasies are nitpicked with insufferable and supreme faggotry
>>3049959yes, because glyphcasting is more fun than anything else in this game anyway
>>3049972>dismissive "everybody who I don't like is "socially retarded"" vaguepostWhat does you being new to 4chan have to do with MnM?
>>3049977The other anon related kino to film which on 4chan that's not the case.
>>3049977>everybody who I don't like is "socially retarded"Just you for being a little baby bitch boy pretending not to understand how internet memes work on this website while also accusing others of being new.
>>3049988>muh memesYou came to 4chan.org and typed anon was "socially retarded". You are new to 4chan LOL
>>3049891>posts in a thread of a game he doesn’t playThe sub fee is working.
>>3050030>he doesn't playDo we have a GM in the thread? Shouldn't you be busy shitposting on the MnM reddit telling everybody who doesn't worship your game that the game is not for them?
>>3049988>thinks image macros are LE EPIC MAYMAYS
>>3050030>he posts in a thread of a game he no longer plays after he tried it and found it to be garbagecorrectmad?
You're a big guy
>>3049817M&M needs a stale sandwich blunt weapon
>>3049975I'll figure out glyph casting when I'm 32, only having 3/4 isn't enough to make my bars all fucky
>>3050190"FRENCH baguette -1"
>>3049803That's how we like it. Off hours you can camp named mobs. Everything isn't 100% perma camped by sweaty nolife gaymers
>>3050214Nah fuck that lol I want to group with people
>>3050215Can't group if all of the camps are taken. Even With our low pop we had to start spreading out.
>>3049941>not even a hell level
>>3050215>25 players in AV on EU right now>literally get invited into a group 3 minutes upon logging in>pretty much every spot is open for us to grind inLovely
>>3050335Yeah I'd get groups that fast too if I showed ankle like you do, harlot.
this general desperately needs a name/mnmg/ or /mmg/? i feel like mmg is already something else 100%
>>3050354/EQ//sndwch/
>>3050355>/sndwch/
>>3050355wasnt eq99 handle /p99g/ or somethingwe could do /mmsg/ monsters memories sandwich general
>>3050358it doubles as "massive (amounts of) monosodium glutamate" meaning that we are indeed low salt slop
Is <Covenant> the tryhard sweaty shitlord guild or something?
>>3050365>playing on EUwhat the fuck
i fully regret trying to get tradeskills up instead of saving for spells. dumbass behavior.
>>3050365It's the "invite everyone, zerg retard guild" but there are some higher level players in it. I can't tell if they're any good cause most covenant members I've grouped with were pretty low tier
>>3050365designated retard guild
anyone on EU have any wisdom gear for sale?
>>3050379yeah I have this fine pair of +5 wisdom wrists for clerics
>>3050384FUCK WIS PLATEALL HEALING GEAR SHOULD BE LEATHER AT BEST
>>3050386is that so
Just got the game and I'm wondering if I should roll Elementalist, Beastmaster or Cleric?
>>3050416depends what you want to dojust a warning that ele and cleric are the two most sadwich classes in the game
>>3050429What the fuck is a sadwich class?
>>3050416gonna need more information than that man
>>3050432it means you sit on your ass 99% of the time
>>3050433Which class is the coolest>>3050437I'm not standing up while playing if that's what you're asking. But if you mean that they have low apm then that's fine. I don't care. Class fantasy is like the only thing I care about.
>>3050441Spellblade is pretty cool, barely anybody plays them
>>3050441well all 3 classes you listed are good but for diffrent reasons>cleric has highest raw healing power, a ress and recently they got a good damage proc>ele is the lowest apm in the game basically a buffbot for melee with their wind pet>bm is a really good 2h melee dps with a reallyuseful slow if you use wasp pet
>>3050441I like wizard but too many people are playing them. Back when I started they were unicorns
Servers died?
>>3050449How does pet management work in this game? Can I have multpile pets at the same time?
>>3050459jankily and no
>>3050459I think they changed it, there was a period around the last open beta where Beastmasters had this concept called "swarm pets" which was just their vernacular for multiple weak pets, but I think they took those away so it's just a regular 1 pet class again
>>3048142>>3048249>ppl don't realize the team is gonna have to pay a crazy amount in unity licenses now that they have made some money it is much worse than anyone thinks
>>3050536>file bankruptcy>put on fake moustache>open m&m private server>???>profit
rip
>>3050552Saar gib sow
>>3050567They really need to put a NPC or something there that gives sow, I know this isn't the answer nor will it happen but the whole fucking server sitting at a bank spemming saar gib sow around the fucking clock as a requirement to leave town otherwise your 30min run takes 1hour is fucking ridiculous and inb4 we did this in EQ,we did but it was never close to as bad as this.
>>3050645they nerfed buff duration down from 1h to curb this behaviour, but people just beg sow twice as often
>>3050567>>3050645>>3050649my mmo fixed this
>>3050657it's a feature not a problem
travelling up that cliff pass in Sungreet to Tel Ekir for the first timeabsolutely nothing along the entire pass save for that dwarf mine with nothing in it, it takes like 10 minutes to get where you're going even with sow, and you can't autowalk it without going off the edgecomplete garbage zone fillerif i died to goblins and had to do a corpse run across there i think i'd just log out until i could pay to have my corpse recoveredinsane amount of wasted space in these zones
>>3050657Nigole..
>>3050667kaplans evil twin, nigole biggers
>>3050666your travel sandwich sis?
i got filtered by the random shitter NPCs in UD that one shot you through walls while you're invisiblecan't even tell what faction they're on to know what I would have to rep grindAV is the only well-designed city but there's jack shit to do there
>>3050673UNDERSIDE PRIDE
Whats are highest APM classes in the game? Inq seems like its up there
>>3050705spellblade
>druid you can dps>no mana>no dpsI feel like I'm being boosted...
>>3050715Hows the sandwich
>>3050715you pvmp by merit of damage shield
>>3050645genuinely a lot of quality of life stuff should just be provided as lowbie alchemist stuff>>3050705bard is probably the literal only contender
>>3050715>magic dps as anyone but wizard lamorflo
>>3050751necro mogs wiz
>>3050765*regenerates all my mana instantly* mmm... nyo
>>3050769get out of the kiddy pool and you'll regret your words and actions
how many people does the EU guild have
>>30507925 online right now, come join us sis
>>3050795im level 10 and also underground
>>3050567>>3050645>>3050649movespeed buffs shouldn't be a thingauras and personal buffs are okay but they shouldn't go to such crazy numbers as sow does if they don't have a cd like 20% maxdevs inflicted this problem on the game because the blindly copied eq
>>3050840agree, everybody should move at 100% maybe have some kind of boot thing to move at 108% and then some classes should have their own spells like maybe shaman and ranger and druid
>>3050840we do that in eq
>night harbor reunited feels good
why is being able to nuke yourself a thing
>>3050853we do that in eq
Enjoying the view of Fallen Watch on my new Deep Elf Paladin
PVMPING
>ugliest models an MMO has ever seen>coomers still gonna coomunreal
>>3050990Who's cooming?
>>3051016(You)
>>3050990>ugliest models an MMO has ever seenyeah like the photoshop 7.0 ass ui (ugly on purpose o algo)
>tfw no one to coom with while grinding mobs
>>3051019I wish man, I've been too tired to even beat it properly lately
>>3050673What npcs there do that? Literally never happened to me.
>>3038239alive game
>>3050986Are all DD spells so horribly mana inefficient?
>>3051202yes
How effective are shields on tanks in this game? Do people notice a difference between using them and not using them dmg mitigation wise?
>>3051188>6 faggots>not a single one undergroundreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>3051224I've never cared enough to run numbers but1) the ac is mostly inconsequential2) the damage reduction from your block skill *does* add up, though you are definitely trading damage for it which in turn means trading agro3) Based on the ability scaling I have seen, I would probably not bother with shields on anything but a Paladin, reason being that SK and Fighter get a lot of damage scaling out of their 2 handers, while Paladin gets a flat heal with one of their abilities ie it doesn't matter if you use it with a 2h or a 1hMost eq vets I have talked to say that 2h>1h but I'm not convinced at least so far as the Paladin goesDunno about the Inquisitor, nobody plays them
>>3051230I have a level 7 deep elf paladin but I went to NH to farm factionI'm open to doing stuff underground if you join the guild
>>3051230you vill heff your dead ingame guild chat where nobody groups und u vill be happy
>>3051247im level 11 and I wanted to farm smugglers for NH rep so i can finally MAYBE stick my head out without the entire night harbor police department chasing me to FUCK meill join later tonight
EU guild invite, please. Name's "Cord"
>>3051258We could grind together, it should be fun
>>3051224always dw or 2h
>>3051266are you the level 7? can you get in group with level 12s?
>>3051241How long has 2h be the tank meta in EQ? When I played, knights always used shields when tanking, since their spells supplied plenty of threat anyway. Warriors would dual wield for threat from procs (first because of the 1.0 epic, later because of aug procs) and just ate the extra damage from getting riposte. No tank I ever saw mained 2h.
>>3051278Yeah you can, 5 levels gap is allowed as far as I know, though I've seen it work above that tooScoundrels are like level 8 so it should be fine
>>3051279forever
we do that in eq
is the wood elf starting area good like underdocks or bad like night harbor
>>3051333Probably the best starting area so far, though I've never done UD and only did AV up to level 7
>>3051333best by far
>>3051333Underdocks is like getting raped by a geriatric man. The elf zone lifts take 1/6 of the time to go up and down and they got little bells that you can ring and make it go up instantly. There's way more enemy variety and you can farm coins easily compared to the undercucks.
>SAAR GIB SOW DO THE NEEDFUL
>>30512792h was never really meta in EQ, in plane of power punishing blade as added to help 2h but they were never really better then duelwield until around Dephs of Darkhollow (for plates anyways) however around then people duelwielded for so long they never got onto the 2h train, the reason 2h around that time were able to become meta was because riposte, the added ripostes from a 2h were massive for aggro generation & damage in general however after 20-25 years daybreak nerfed riposte so hard they might as well of removed it from the game killing off all sense of 2h
>>3051346you can farm humanoids starting level 1 in UD :^)and the lift thing builds character
why are fully invisible mobs a thing? im stuck in a death loop
>>3051427we do that in eq
what the hell there's a new thread? i just thought the game died and so did the thread
>>3050093>argument is accusing the other person of being angryThe sub fee is working.
>>3051453last thread hit image limit
Who thought it was alright that spells have a fixed damage cap? Its miserable when you're on the threshold to the next spell level and your spells deal crap damageMelee damage caps are retarded too but this is even worse
>>3051465we do that in eq
>>3051480Int / Wis didn’t increase spell damage in EQ.
>>3051487it doesn't need to, the spell just needs to continue scaling with your level, but at a lower rate than higher level spells
In my experience ALL melee are loot niggers. The tank is the biggest loot nigger of them all. the only thing stopping them from taking just everything is weight. I watched the tank take 3 cracked fine staves in a row. he knows exactly what hes doing being a loot nigger. then they bitch if you pick up something they needed. oh you're the puller? well boo hoo too fucking bad
>>3051514>do all the work>get no lootBeing a puller sounds like an absolute cuck job.
>>3051525yeah if you want to be an absolute nigger roll a tank or a rogue.
>>3051525it's exactly the same for healers, forget getting any trash loot as one
>>3051333Its nicehere are solo hunting areas there are probably more but this is where i level
>>3051501So we did not actually do that in EQ, fuckwit.
>>3051542Imagine not speaking up and getting your share of the loot. How timid are you faggots irl if you cant even speak up for yourself in a game?
>>3051525pullers get 0 loot ever, ideally they're never in camp when something dies as they should be bringing in another mob, and greedy money-hungry fresh-server lil niggas always be looting every mob before their model even falls to the ground so good luck ever getting anythinghealers and worth-a-damn casters of any type shouldn't be looting much because that could mean a tick goes by where they aren't meditating, if you can do it right then sure but most people won't give you the time to take a second and wait for a tick firstit's the non-puller, non-magic-user classes who loot like they live in detroit. they never have to pull and never have to med so they get everything and freak out if you call them out on it because they "need gear" (even though the game was balanced so that spellcasters have to spend even MORE on spells from cheapass ripoff npcs than a melee EVER will have to on gear with people already selling handmade iron for 10s a piece).
Is there a way to block selling your weapons that are in your bags? I had my lumberjack axe in my hand and accidentaly sold my sword, and buying it back made me lose 8s for nothing...
>>3051682we don't do that in eq
>>3051644>speaking upno you use passive aggression and subtle hints and if that doesnt fix it you hold a grudge forever
how many are in the trem guild? should I join?
>>3051702these guys have a corpse picked clean in 2 seconds they dont give a fuck
OK so it's possible to go from Noob Lift or anywhere in EW to NH west bank in about 5 minutes just casting the exodus spell. EW > Keeper's Bight zoneKB > Vale of Zintar zone lineVoZ > Fallen Pass zone lineFP > NH zone lineNH > West Gate
>made friends from last party>they invite me to camp a NM in WBAnons you were right if I just ask people to be friends they will be. This feels nice.
>>3051874yeah but now you're stuck in WB with a bunch of sweaty dicks when you could be leveling, i hope the mobs at least give xp
trem is so ridiculously overpopulated im considering just swapping to Trilustra (NA2) or the west coast NA server. is this a good idea? highest character is 17
>>3051916I did this on day 2 just pick a different one. High pop servers attract the gayest players.
>>3051916just come to the deep and start grinding AV rep. It's getting a big update soon and there's plenty of great money grinding spots
>>3051916Trem is a trap if you want to do any meaningful content. Honestly it probably won't be much better on other servers until the population spreads out, but even then you'll have high levels solo farming named mobs. Game is not made for a population of 2.5k concurrent
>>3051882They do, plus I can collect loot to sell. It was this or farming diseased bats for hours...
>>3051916Trem doesn't feel too bad, though I was originally going to roll on the WC server. Probably could get through 1-20 somewhat quicker knowing the camps in Evershade Weald now. It's just a matter of getting all the players.
>>3051948>meaningful content
>>3051916come to EU sis
>>3051942NTA how do you get AV rep if you started as a delf in UD
Welp
>>3051984Kill goblins until disdain and then keep turning in fungus parts to vex to make armor
>>3051954you can outlevel that area and farm much better gear, that named shit in wyrmsbane is all worthless
>>3052000report the draft dodger
I think someone mentioned a way to get a free bag from UD guards.How do?
>>3052047join the eu guild
>>3052053What if I'm trans?
>>3052047Guard Darek at the northeast gateGives you a 6 slot bag if you say you'll help him
>>3052062more the merrier
>>3052070Invite me Legolasx
>>3052063Thank you.
>play in UD>tons of groups and friendly groups>go up to NH>no one says shit and doesnt wanna group upwhats up with that
>>3052047guard outside the gates if you say help or something (just hail them).the gnome lady? across from the quarter master in the caster guild will give you an 8 slotter if you say research + help or something.behind the quarter master is a dwarf? guy on a balcony who will give you a 6 slotter if you say work, i believe.
>>3052047also remember that you can turn in shit for early money.4 myconid parts = 2 silver 6 severed beetle legs = 1 silver
>>3052102Niggers
>>3052102I JUST WANNA PLAY WITH 4CHINS BUT IM STILL STUCK UNDERGROUND I HAVE NO REP THE GUARDS ARE HUNTING ME DOWN AAAAAAAAA
>>3051487Does they increase damage in this game? I'm not convinced.
>>3052212>playing the meme chud elvesbricked
>>3052005It's free and I'm making friends.
>>3052212Farm faction with me anon
>>3052217HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
>>3051682Look at what you sell instead of spamming the button like a caveman
>>3052212Just fuckin swim down the shore to get out of NH it's easy
>>3052212>wants to play with 4chins but doesn't join the guild
>>3052212if you can make it to the dudu ring I'll port you to the surface
>>3052265who do i whisper
>zero bards lfg>all the bards are all out swarm kiting>zero encs lfg>all the encs are out charm killing>cant form a grp cuz zero cc LFGbeen like this the past three hours in the 30s
>>3052268whisper Hayley
>>3052273A monk is potentially a solution too if they know how to split mobs up.
>>3052268Punt the sicknasty CUNT
>>3052273I have done 90% of my groups with neither just fine though
is there no trem guild
>>3052336everyone on trem is already in the EU guild
>>3052336just roll on EU already, tr*m is unplayable
>>3052336trem guild is full of tremmies
Why is my xp bar on fire
Have they released any stats yet? Like class/race/starting zone populations?
>>3051916Tilustra is allegedly the fag/dyke/tranny server
>>3052359>>3052347Lag is already horrific, cant imagine playing eu
>>3052371you do know EU server is not actually located in EU, right?It lags less because there's no 2000 mountbreathing tourists
>>3052375>you do know EU server is not actually located in EUhello? proofs?
>>3052386Shawns streams, they talk about relocating them to Eu at "some point"west coast server is not actually in west coast either
>>3052370If that's the case then why do all of the faggots and trannies in this thread want you to roll on EU with them?
>>3052366hell level
>have 70s at level 10>can't buy gear because stats are capped and I won't get any effective bonus
>niggas almost level 30 sitting their fat asses on NMs in Wyrmsbane 24/7Play nice policy my fucking ass man, this shit is killing my vibe extremely.
>>3052366you are about to complete the tutorial
>>3052402>this shit is killing my vibe extremely.just grind money and buy the gear from them
>>3052402on NMs?
>>3052390>EU is not in EUI have 24ms, it's literally in the EU
>>3052431for some reason gyrops call named "NM". i don't know why.
Can druids wear metal gear in this game? Or leather and below only?
>>3052431>>3052436Named Mob :)
>>3052431ffxi troon lingoyou know it's a mentally ill freak speaking
>>3052453Nah I just picked it up from other people calling them that in game actually
>>3052453sorry nm wonliterally a notorious monster
>>3052453calling them "nameds" is fucking retardedyou might have done it in eq but I fucking wont
>>3052441max leather
this is your tank for the night say something nice about xem
>>3052467deep elves are so unsexy compared to wood elveshowd they fuck this up
>>3052471i played wood elf for 30 seconds before deleting the charactertheir run animation is literally shit
>>3052402between tradeskills and firstaid you need thousands of both and the most effective way to get it is sadly wyrmsbane, that plus some of the named drops some good shit even if u are in your 30s
>>3052481My man there are plenty of humanoid camps people can shit on at that level, they do not need to ruin the newbie dungeon for cloth
>>3052102>small town life vs. city life
bros.......
>>3052530it's the grim rupert
>>3052467when your priestess of lolth becomes a fucking warrior because she flunked out of priestess school and brought shame to her whole family and lolth grants favor to rival families who will plot her family's demise
Why the fuck did my druid sensei just fucking one shot me for daring to talk to him?
>>3052536OH SHIT
>>3052555omegalul
>>3052402devs should just copy paste a second wyrmsbane somewhere else they got enough room
>>3052574They already didIt's called the EU server
>>3052560REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>3052465this guys said the n-word in chat more than once and someone should do something
>>3052574wyrmsbane shit is completely fucking worthless by the time you're 25+
>>3052555I've also misclicked Q while walking toward an npc, it happens
>>3052593well what did you expect would happen baka?
>>3052594he sounds based
>>3052624
>>3052596for people like me 25+ is unachievablethe gear is as good as every alt I make that can use it
>>3052402we do that in eq. it will only get worse.
>>3052555q being attack next to your movement keys is the most retarded thing ever. and yes i know eq did it that way.
>>3052396I'd like to see this addressed as well
>>3052642you can get 25+ in crafted statless gear nobody gives a shit
>>3052402>>3052644This, its only a matter of time until those high lvl players turn into high lvl bots
>shaman felted>roll won>loot collected>heals cast: 0
>>3052701>2 healers
>>3052370its too late i already rolled my Inq there. fuck laggy ass trem and fuck treggers and fuck the topside. im a deep elf now
>>3052709I'm dps dudu!
>>3052701>lvl 34are you fucking unemployed? How are you that high level?
>play a tank they said>groups will want you they saidIm a lvl36 shadow knight and ive been LFG for five hours, been fear kiting while LFG......classes that cant solo I guess just quit in this situation.
>>3052765You're a head of the curve, go take a shower and come back later
>>3052764you put on your lfg tag and then you get invited to 10h grinds
>>3052765>Im a lvl36too far ahead, your peers are still in Wyrmsbane camping loot they can hawk for 20s in NH all day
>>3052765>lvl 36do you faggots even have a job
high level bros can you do tradeskills and afford your spells or this is a lowbie Me problem?
>>3052654The way I remember it, it was "A" in EQ and then people kept hitting it by accident when they were trying to talk to NPCs so they changed it to Q to make it less likely to be part of words
>>3052765How much gold have you gotten while soloing?
>>3052818no?suffer wagie
>>3052852eq originally used the arrow keys for movement. the best part is they eventually put a hot button on 1 for autoattack along with q so you could fuck up and autoattack bankers even more. i think they even made wasd the second default for movement at the same time.
>>3052831tradeskills are so painfully slow and expensive to level only way to get good jewelry or steel weapons done is if guild funneled you
>throw away quest item>need it now>based GMs give it to meI'm the strongest cleric on Estaire.
STR, DEX, or AGI for my monk jewelry?
>>3052914str and dexmonk has no use for agi because it's not a tank
>>3052869im up to 10g but its from a mix of solo, grp, and selling extra shit (nothing special)
>>3052914Likely STR above all.
In Night Harbor where where abouts is the Gilded Claw Compound? The place where Pasha Patrice & Aide Aida spawn
>>3052936pretty sure its in the night market
>>3052780what he means by this is yes, very unemployed.
Any linux players?
17 strength vibes
>>3052890AAAHHHHHH I WISH I COULD PLAY
>blood pact can kill you
excuse me when is the autoplay patch coming in for those of us who work 70+ hours a week so you unemployed fucktards can game for 18+ hours a day
damn that's some FAT loot!
any clue what the blind midden tokens are for?
>>3053030we do that in eq
>>3053055damn, wish i got good loot
I just spent 5 whole silver on a bronze longsword.
>>3053077scammed
Two days ago I was scared to party in WB because I was lost. Today I'm bullying my group in finding a camp and pulling mobs because I know where everything is and the exp ranges.I'm so strong now even though I'm still a noob by comparison to the EQ pros.
>>3053128that feel when
>>3053128knowledge is power
>>3038689I played to 32, and quit abruptly yesterday.Feels too much like a second job with all of the unnecessary roadblocks to shit and the community is like a buffet of humanity from 4chan and reddit you wished you never had to sample. Took this experience to know why Im done with MMOs for good.
>>3052102Unironically this: >>3052517All the sweaty betafags only know nightharbor and are more interested in blasting to endgame to keep everything on lock than they are about actually having fun with frens
>>3052594A deep gnome in my group the other day said "don't mind him, he's just a dumb bigger" about the ogre tank we had and I did laugh a hearty laugh
Why is everyone in such a hurry to max out? You all scared they're going to nerf your favorite class and it will be unplayable before 60?
>>3053296im not, im gonna play until wow forever launches and then return in 1-2 years
>>3053292I say this will all kindness, man.. I feel bad for the people playing this that do not yet have any idea what kind of people are on it. Every single patch last week included a fix to people exploiting.. every. single. patch.
>Feedback: I think that leveling is currently too fast
>>3053300Isn't that in November? It's gonna suck seeing half of you guys leave but more for me. You only need 5 to party. It would be pretty sweet if the sweaty poop socking piss juggers just quit in unison.
>>3053303I played p99 for years so I'm prepared for grand high elf court that will tire everyone out and eventually kill the game, but in the meantime I'm having actual fun with other people and the environment. It really is going to be a shame when people realize the only way to progress past the sweats will be to either join their guilds, or band together enough non-sweats to fight back (thereby accidentally becoming sweats in the process).
>>3053303Let's see some ban waves.
>>3053328Give the sweaty tryhards their own containment server and have the normies play somewhere else.
>>3053303Some of these exploits were just repeatable quests that the devs should have had the foresight that players would take advantage of. I feel like I might get banned for repeating the fungal armor quest because the rep reward is too good
Grouping with you retards makes me think about switching to PvP. Wow might be toxic as shit but you niggers will literally not cast a single spell for an hour as a Druid if someone doesn’t post the logs.
>>3053461uhhhhhhhGhorast?Your response as the only Druid in this thread?
>>3053461>post the logswhat are we even doing here
>>3053461>playing on eu
>>3053517>with the dudu NMS fags
>>3053513getting you to do SOMETHING
>>3053523okay make a guild on NA then.
erm.. posting logs is illegal
im making a guild on tilustra as soon as i get the cash
>>3053666How about one on trem because it has actual players?
>>3053684there is one I believe
>>3053693does it have a gay name or like one person in it?
>>3052765ran into this exact problem and threw in the towel cuz i was playing a paladin
So there is a guild on what appears to be 2, and soon 3 different servers. we may have fucked this up irredeemably so.
Did no one decide on a server to play before people started investing hours and hours into the game?
>>3053887>>3053872>the players put about as much thought into the 4chan guild as the devs put into the gameits like poetryit rhymes
>>3053887There was a guy (T-something i think), Punt, some guy who'd make a guild but hes only playing temporarily and would pass off leadership, >>3053666 this dude now...So yeah that's what happened. Utter failure.
>>3053872Its not that bad since US players wouldn't really be playing with the EU guys
>>3053908I am not counting the EU guys they are irrelevant in our U.S. meddling.
>>3053908We should just have ONE (1) NA guild and ONE (maybe zero) EU guilds.
>>3053887Why do you believe that everybody on 4chan lives in the same country or timezone? Dumbfuck low-Int post.
>>3053916I didn't say that you gorilla nigger. I just think some of you retards should plan this better. Why even have a thread if we're not even going to interact?
>>30539184chan serves as a social outlet for people with no social skills
>>3053924We could also just sit in a guild and not talk to each other just the same. What's the difference?
>>3053918>several servers across timezones>why did nobody pick ONE server>uhhh I didn't say that!!!wish i could meet you irl and slap the shit out of your mouth faggot
>>3053939Only one server is needed to be the main server. The other servers can fight over scraps.
>>3053939why would you care when outsiders played if you had guildmates to play with?
Gentlemen, gentlemen, calm downIn 2 months the devs will have to consolidate everyone into 1 or 2 servers anyway :)
keeps going up
>>3053980true dat>>3053987>4.5% active playerbaseLOL
>>3053989this is normal, you don't think that steam charts = total player base right?
>>3053989thats not how you do math
>>3053994yeah it's 22%
imagine having to explain to brown people how billing cycles work
>>3053992Please direct me to the post where Steam charts were mentioned.
>>3054004I was demonstrating the abstraction of when people post Steam charts the concurrent number shown is not the entire playerbase/owners of the game.
I'm 14 cleric if anyone wants to group up on Estaire...
>>3054007I understand that, my friend. MnM is not even on Steam.
>>3054013I know that, it was simply a way to explain something that everyone has seen or understands. Thanks.
>>3054029Okay. Nobody mentioned Steam charts for four threads until you. Have a good night.
imagine having to explain to brown people what a metaphor is
imagine having brown people in your online game. we should gatekeep harder.
>>3054059>>3054061Who'mst've art thou quoteth?
>>3054067i didnt meme arrow so nobody.
>>3054075>meme arrowok what does you being new to the website have any relevance to monsters and mammaries?
>>3054084it was lost on you wasn't it? meme arrows is a joke, anon.
>>3054090">"s were used as quoting symbols since the 90s or maybe the 80s, weird newfag revisionist.
Should I be getting out of Evershade Weald and Blacktide Bay if I want to get a group as a BRD? Seems pretty damn barren at these hours in Trem (2k on as of writing)
>>3054096this site didn't exist back then. why would that matter?
