Last thread>>55669854What Pokemon do you want to see get an evolution next gen or in the next Legends game?
both sandslash forms need an evolution450 BST is fucking nothing for a fully evolved pokemon by today's standardsalso getting actual ability options besides sand rush/slush rush would be nice since no one brings weather setters just for evasion abilities, which are banned in most competitive formats anywaystough claws/rough skin require no explanation, just look at them and try to justify how they don't have those abilities besides GF being lazy
Bug/Ground Pinsir with a STAB Earthquake and Mold Breaker.One no one considered: Golduck evolution that goes full kappa and remains a pure water type
>>55716790Yeah agreed.Uh Seaking could use something? Regular ass Farfetch'd?
>>55716662More than anything, a Mightyena evolution. Pic rel I think is nearly perfect.>Great monster design>Dark/Fairy is a solid typing and fits the design's theme>Great stats, though I'd sacrifice 10 point of Defense and give it to Speed.>Great abilities, swapping out Quick Feet for Tough Claws>Solid movepoolKalos is inspired by France, and France is the origin of both the Rougarou and Beast of Gévaudan.Fingers crossed for something like this. I'd accept a Mega evolution, but man, I really want a plain evolution.
>>55716662Pachirisu Why doesn’t Pachirisu already have an evo?
>>55716662Dudunsparce needs a third stage evo with Dududunsparce
>>55717804she’s perfect how she is
>>55718023Too weakEven Volkner didn’t have it on his team in DP, he would rather betray his type than use such a weak pokemon
>>55717296Telescope eye evo with Tinted Lens.Regular Farfetch'd had a lot of good fan evos. Sirfetch'd is kinda hit or miss.
>>55718498I agree, Sirfetch'd looks like another regional form instead of an evolution. Hell, the Galarian Farfetch'd looks more like a proper evo.
All of the 2-stage fossil Pokemon deserve a 3rd stage. ALL of them, even Archeops.
Still want my Dragon Eeveelution
Raichu. Just do stage 4 evolutions already
Whatever happened to the guy who made these collages
>>55720067Alolan Jynx was a missed opportunity, a way to both reintroduce it and move away from the controversy of the original.
>>55720067Ooo, this is cool. My favorite has to be the one by shinygazza in the second evolutions row. It's the only one that really nails the Yamanba yokai vibe for me and feels Jynxy. Don't like any of the others that are going for the opera singer or princess look
>>55720067This one is pretty cool.
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Wormadam
Fuck it I'll copy/paste one from beforeSplit evolution>KnobullFairy/SteelGranbull's metal cuffs extend into armored grieves and its collar has grown into a protective helmet that protects its head and bares its fangs. The helmet is decorated with a long blue feather that bends down and hangs behind Knobull's head. Knobull's knees are also protected with small iron pads.120 HP120 Attack100 Defense60 Sp Attack75 Sp Defense60 SpeedSignature Ability: Honor GuardLowers the opponents' Attack when Knobull is Attacked. The user is also protected from Critical Hits.>GnollbullFairy/FightingGranbull's blue spots that Snubbull come back to dot its slightly darker pink body, which now has more powerful legs, larger arms that bear cuffs with broken chains hanging from them, and a slightly longer and more muscular neck, which supports its more hunched posture. Its jaw has gained two more small lower fangs, its large fangs are now serrated and its ears now flop downwards.90 HP140 Attack80 Defense50 Sp. Attack60 Sp. Defense115 SpeedAbility: Intimidate/Strong Jaw/RattledSignature Move: Bit and RunFairy70 BP95 AccuracyThe user bites the foe and instantly retreats to swap out with a waiting party member
>>55716662They will never acknowledge Jynx again. In fact I bet they redesign it or remove it within the decade.
>>55718498I had this idea
>>55716662Sudowoodo should get a taller evolution that's part ghost called Falsnag
>>55720067I've seen a good number of these. Tried going through old arch.b4k.co archives for some, but couldn't find any. Maybe I'm just not querying the right thing to find them.
>>55722177https://arch.b4k.co/vp/search/filename/ezgif%20jpg/deleted/not-deleted/page/4/Page 4 onwards has a good bunch of them. Last time he posted seems to have been July last yearBehold the Rotom swarm
>>55721902A hollow 'corpse' of a sudowoodo that's still mobile or something else?
>>55721860That looks pretty good.I think all the water or fish Pokemon could get away with regional variants and evolutions, the ocean is big enough to support it.
>>55716662Male Gothorita evo based in an aristocrat VampireBaby calf prevolution for Miltank/TaurosFat larvae prevolution for Heracross/PinsirGorgon/Rokurokubi evolution for regional mawile (I don't know if having a Mega prevents them from giving an evolution to the original)Jorogumo/Ushi-oni regional evolution for black widow Ariados, females evolve into Jorogumo and males into Ushi-oni, or a mix like ArukenimonAncient evolution for Kecleon based in Jurassic Park CarnotaurRegional evolution for Sentret based in a yokai TanukiSudowoodo evolution based on an osage orange tree, instead of leaves it has hundreds of green steel spheres that simulate fruits, its type does not change so it is not affected by fire. This would have an attack that would launch several of its "fruits" into the sky causing double damage to flying pokemon or those with the levitate ability.
>>55716662How about a regional Jynx that's Water/Psychic and it's a mermaid? New evolution bumps the BST up from 455 to like 550, then bump Special Attack up to like 150? Mix the remainder around in HP, the Defenses, and Speed. Then give it some better abilities? Maybe something like Liquid Voice or Drizzle?
>>55724113Change to a cecaelia (sea witch) and you have my full support
>>55724191It could also be a good option for a divergent evolution of Mareanie
>>55724191>>55724211Mermaid Jynx and a Sea Witch Mareanie, though? Maybe they butt heads over territory? Mareanie could be Poison/Rock maybe give it something similar to Disguise where it hides in the Corsola shell?
>>55722667Basically but uh immobile like lowest speed
>>55721552>it gets a leg (singular)i guess it makes more sense than just having the pizza slice float while its top thingy hangs from nothing, but cmon
>>55725532It's hanging from a thread, but the games don't show it. It's a bagworm.
>>55724113>>55724191I'm surprised a mermaid hasn't been done yet. Even Milotic is more of an oarfish than a mermaid and Primarina is more sea lion than mermaid. Yeah I know Pokemon take inspiration from multiple sources but it's still worth mentioning.
>>55720062Mega evolution was the closest thing to that and look how that worked.
>>55716662One from each generation:>Gen 1Seaking>Gen 2Unown>Gen 3Tropius>Gen 4Carnivine>Gen 5Maractus>Gen 6Klefki>Gen 7Komala>Gen 8Pincurchin>Gen 9Spidops
>>55727670I'm in love with plant witch Jynx. I can take or leave Jynbaba though. I get what it's going for but I'm not too big on the huge schnoz.
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>>55724211I made a Convergent cactus Pokemon for Toxapex and Mareanie! Not sure what type they'd be other than Grass.
>>55729700ground is the sand type
>>55729700Color some of the wavy lines yellow and make it Grass/Electric. It jolts enemies with electric needles and then eats them, similar to what's described in some of Mareanie's dex entries with poison.
Kantonian Farfetch'd, the one in SS is boring meme shit and stuck to an unnessesary regional variant
>>55716662>Fearow evolution that resembles a gigantic thunderbird, while still keeping a decent amount of condor/vulture features>Noctowl evolution similar to pic rel>Delcatty evolution that resembles an extremely pampered puma or tiger, playing into the fact that ultra-rich people have a habit of owning big cats as pets>Carnivine evolution - I can't think of a concept for it, but goddamn this poor fucker needs something
>>55730056>Fearow>Captcha: ParasOh shit.
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>The dawn stone's evolutions were all based on a specific gender>Only two Pokemon used itSo who gets to use it next? Hard mode, no female Machoke or female Mr. Mime.
>>55727335if they actually DID four stage evolutions it wouldn't be a gimmick they'd be actual real Pokemon
>>55730848Gothitelle. The other Gardevoir.
>>55730848Male Salandit are asking for an evolution.Somehow, Roselia could benefit from a split evo too.
>>55730848Male Audino and female Togetic.
>>55730848Male Combee. Give him an evo called Vespidron.
>>55732184Nah make it a queen guard, Vespiguard. Combee are themselves already the regular drones.
>>55716662I'm convinced Golduck is definitely getting something. It's one of the last original 151 that doesn't have anything of any sort but it is still considered somewhat popular thanks to its prevo and the fact that it's had almost perfect attendance in every single release.
>>55720718For me it's Charmadame in the 1st row or Glamoresse in the 2nd. I think it's okay to move the Jynx line in the direction of being more glam but keeping the mysterious vibe. I get the yokai inspiration but clearly they don't need to stick to it and GF has a habit of adding new themes when they go back and make cross gen evos (Primeape and Yanma for example). I think those particular ones I picked out though add that new theme but don't radically venture too far away from the previous two stages. They're definitely top tier.
>>55720067Man, I normally really like bromojumbo's stuff but his variation on this chart is pretty shitty
>>55722239This is easily one of my least favorite tropes. I'm so tired of Rotom becoming a shill Pokémon. I prefer it from Generation 4/5 when it was just a little electric ghost that possessed motorized devices which had a couple niche forms that worked like evolutions. Now it's forced into Pokédex/game with all of these "unique" forms and it's fodder for shitty fakemon designs with people slapping his face onto any old fucking electronic and calling themselves original. I think if they ever did revisit doing Rotom forms it's going to be another plot related bullshit thing or they give it a regional that possesses some other type of machine.
>>55722239This is easily one of my least favorite tropes. I'm so tired of Rotom becoming a shill Pokémon. I prefer it from Generation 4/5 when it was just a little electric ghost that possessed motorized devices which had a couple niche forms that worked like evolutions. Now it's forced into Pokédex/game with all of these "unique" forms and it's fodder for shitty fakemon designs with people slapping his face onto any old fucking electronic and calling themselves original. I think if they ever did revisit doing Rotom forms it's going to be another plot related bullshit thing or they give it a regional that possesses some other type of machine. I'm personally very okay with them just never touching the Pokémon again in the official games, permanently pissing people off forever.
It's way more likely this thing will just get a regional, but with Annihilape now existing I have renewed hope they might give this thing the "cross-gen evo after almost 30 years" treatment.>Aggrow>Fighting/Flying >Stats: 95/117/90/55/73/93>This gives it higher Attack and more bulk than Fearow, but it's also slower>Abilities: Anger Point, Stamina (replaces Keen Eye), Wind Rider (HA)>Fearow and Spearow both get Anger Point as their third ability (they currently only have two each)>Gains access to Dual Wingbeat, Hurricane, Reversal, Close Combat, Feint, Payback, Lash Out, Revenge, Final Gambit, Obstruct, Parting Shot, and Beak Blast>The moves Pursuit, Mirror Move, Laser Focus, Heat Wave, Throat Chop, Tailwind, Double Edge, Curse, and Rage are all added back into the movepool of all 3 stages.>Sky Attack is brought back as its highest level move and retooled. Now Sky Attack works like Electro Shot: the user boosts Attack +1 on the charging turn and under Tailwind the move acts immediately after charging. In exchange, Sky Attack loses the high crit and high flinch chances. It also drops to 130bp but gains 100% acc.>Drill Peck also gets buffed: now it has a high crit and high flinch chance, basically taking Sky Attack's old secondary effect>Still doesn't get Brave Bird because fuck you>Dex entries for Spearow/Fearow really only mention their stamina, strong flight, and sharp beaks. The aggression is from all other media, but this evolution canonizes that. This Pokemon likes to spend its time high in the sky searching for prey, but if it gets annoyed it "aggros" and relentlessly pursues the target pecking and flapping its powerful wings. Fighting type is due to this new much more aggressive behavior. Also avoids the "crane martial artist" trope despite all the connotations. It's just a big angry ass bird.
>>55716662This is from another Poketuber who just shits out fakemon left and right for clicks, but I actually love this design and concept. I think it nails what a real Beeheeyem evo would feel and look like perfectly. YouTuber is fakemonforever if anyone's curious.
>>55732889SpearowFearowHearow
>>55720067I wish so many jynx evolutions didn't just go "DUDE WHAT IF JYNX LOOKED EVEN MORE LIKE A HUMAN WOMAN"
>>55732785Caterpie SpearowEkansNidoran ZubatParasVenonatPsyduckMachopBellsproutDoduoSeelShellderDrowzeeGoldeenStaryuDittoOmanyteKabutoDratiniMewGoing by crossgen evos, regional variants, mega evos and the like, these Pokemon listed are the only ones that don't have anything to them since their debut.>>55732905I was thinking about Beeheyem the other day, that's a really cool design.
>>55732976>Humanshape Pokemon retains the humanlike elementsI don't see the problem.
>>55733407Butterfree and Machamp got Gigantamaxes
>>55734238Right, scratch those two off the list then.
>>55732855Agreed 100%. I think it's a little bizarre in-universe how it went from >whoa, look at this fucked up thing that only haunts eerie abandoned mansions and even then there's usually only one of them in the place at a timeto>This Pokemon powers literally every single piece of technology on the planet. Every single Alolan, Galarian, and Paldean person is given one.
>>55734734and even when they decided it needed the appliance forms, that was fine because it's meant to be something that possesses appliances. and you can easily rationalize that, something like a CRT TV, a lawnmower or a microwave oven are all household appliances that you use mechanical parts that you can imagine an electrical ghost being able to manipulate. but once we moved towards it just becoming something that can go into digital devices like a phone or a drone... I think they really fucking lost the script. sure, it could make sense and obviously things get reimagined. but I think keeping the simplicity of it just being a little electrical creature that could control machines was far more elegant than it being a ghost that just ends up living inside of every electronic device we can think of -- and it gets to talk now!
>>55735110>>55732855>>55722239I think someone trying to create Rotom forms is a sign of just a pure lack of imagination because it's such a low hanging fruit, just like making more Eevee evolutions
>>55724191>>55724113Found this one.
>>55731128That'll be the moment Pokemon jumps the shark. Suddenly every other Pokemon will need a fourth evolution. Three stages is simple enough to work but versatile enough to allow for cool shit like Drapple.
What if the Eeveelutions themselves evolved one more time? Powercreep has rendered them all shotmons by now anyway
>>55736362Only if the evolutions occur with a specific item designed for them.One thing I hate about the later eeveelutions is lack of a mane, moreso since Glaceon and Leafeon now use stones to evolve outside Sinnoh. There was an exception with Umbreon and Espeon, granted.
>>55716662This image is old as fuck
I want more ancient evolutions, it was a cool concept
Ledian, Ariados and Mightyena need some love. Asside from that, I think that all pokemon who had a regional form that could evolve should get an evolution too, Corsola, Qwiflish and Lioone come to mind.
>>55737452Relicanth not getting one in Gen IV was stupid.
>>55737779i like relicanth the way he is. He's supposed to be an evolutionary dead end
>>55737779I don't think you understand the reason why Relicanth exists...
>>55737811>>55737839Consider the following, Relicanth evolves into its ancestor. A backwards method of evolution.
>>55669857Smeargle is already very good and useful as is. Giving it a buff in stats with an evolution would almost definitely make it busted.
>>55737388So is this one.And it's better than what we got.
>>55737452>Scientists are actually preoccupied with accomplishment. So they are focused on whether they can do something. They never stop to ask if they should do something.
>>55734128you can keep the human shape while still making it look like an actual, interesting pokemon
>>55733407Hypno should get an evolution called Mezmereyes. Call it Sunapper (sand sleeper) or something in Japanese, idk
>>55741258I'm not down with Paradox Pokemon, seems like another copout to not make more original designs or evos. Convergent evolution is okay, but that could be a crutch down the line too.
>>55741506Call it Komer or Sleepee.
May as well post the other evos/pre-evos from Vega/Sirius/Altair/Procyon/Deneb/. I don't know if the roster got updated recently.
>>55742364Ignore the name and type, imagine it as an Ancient evolution of Kecleon based on JP novel's Carnotaurs
>>55720062Gorochu
>>55743169>TorkoalI don't think anything can save it, not even an evolution.>MagcargoAbandonhope.gif
>re: relicanthi think it would be really funny if we got a regional form for it that you have to revive from a fossil, but it's barely different>>55743849i was under the impression that torkoal has been legitimately excellent ever since it got drought - like, a top level competive mon. magcargo, however... few mons need more help, poor guy...
>>55743169I like how some of these are legitimately good evolutions and then there's others that just feel like they drew unrelated designs and turned them into evolutions at the last second
>>55744302It has to get some speed or drop the Fire/Rock typing altogether. Cool design and animal, awful execution.
>>55744765>Flame Body>Magma ArmorHoly shit, I forgot how bad it was.>Weak Armor>Base HP: 60That said, the evo from Deneb has better defense and good health alongside Solid Rock. There's plenty of ways to improve Magcargo.
>>55745520Solid rock could save it, but its double weaknesses are too glaring. I dunno.
>>55720067why do so few redesigns actually fix what's wrong with Jynx (the ugly lips)?
>>55746029Because it doesn't need fixing even if it's ugly. It's main theme is kissing.
>>55745520I posited in another thread to give magcargo or a theoretical evo a fire version of water bubble
>>55746290Post it here
>>55744319The split evo for Ralts was an odd choice and the Relicanth evo looks like a pre-evo more than anything. Otherwise these evos are some of the better ones I've seen to this day alongside the general sprite work.Another oldie from 2010/11.
>>55747259>Sunflora>MukGib>dat luvdisc balloon
>>55745992Wasn't Coalossal good in vgc last gen? It's probably doable.
>>55743169Is that a Cerberus Mightyena evo, top right?I'm all for a Mightyena evo, but a Cerberus isn't quite what I'd go with...
>>55741258>>55743568..Thank you for your input, Mr. Malcom.
>>55748619I'm cool with it, only because the alternative would be Houndoom with the Cerberus evo, and that one is especially overdone.
>>55743717Mega Raichu
>>55735773I think that Jynx could be the final stage instead of the middle stage.
I really just want a sexy jynx evo
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>>55749511Mega Lycanroc is the way when it comes to a Cerberus.
>>55748619Finally, a Mightyena evo that doesn't assault my eyes.
>>55747259Alot of these designs im not feeling too much, but over all these are nice. The brown burrowing one is a great mix of cute and cool, sunflora is pretty great, and im so glad the Mr mime evo keep mime jr and mr mime's cute aspects
>>55751440That's fair. I will say the philosophy with fan evos hasn't changed much, but it's bizarre to see some fan concepts rearing their heads in the official product, albeit with some tweaks (Jellicent was made by a fan with two separate lines a year before Gen V released).
>>55749091Life, uh, finds a way
>>55752095I was gonna say Fighteon should be a biped but remembered the Musketeers existed. So what's really stopping GF from doing all the eeveelutions that are missing?
>>55741258>>55743568
>>55744765>>55745520Evolve it and go all in on Def and SpDef. We're talking BST 550 and almost all of it is put into raising those defenses and HP. Then change its abilities from Magma Body, Flame Body, and Weak Armor to Earth Eater, Water Absorb, and Steam Engine. Make it a land version of one of those iron shelled deep water snails. You don't even have to change the typing (though you could change it to Fire/Steel if you wanted). All of this is obviously a pretty extreme change, but you can hand wave it by saying it's an ancient evolution bringing out deep water traits like Yanmega or Lickilicky.
>>55754202Shit, that wouldn't be the first time something got an extreme overhaul.
>>55754202I forgot about this snail. I think Fire/Steel works perfectly for it.
>>55754202>>55754460>>55754918You know, in retrospect Fire/Steel kind of fixes Magcargo's typing whole sale. Huh. You don't even need the weird ability changes anymore. Maybe just turn one of them into Earth Eater and you'd be good. Just say it got its new evolution by eating the sediment around it and absorbing the iron in it. Jesus, that's stupidly easy now that I see it laid out.Fire/Steel evolution. BST 550, heavy def/spdef/hp increases, Earth Eater/Flame Body/Weak Armor? Bam! You're done. Good enough.
>>55754948Actually, hell, if it becomes a Mega then you could turn all of its abilities into Earth Eater and be done.
>>55718498>>55718740We were robbed...
>>55754948It should have been either a three stage Pokemon or have the Fire/Steel evo debut in Gen IV and then give it Earth Eater later on. Heatran should have been replaced by magcargo's evo, and I don't hate Heatran either.
>>55733407If Dewgong gets an evo, it should be called Narwall, but the localizers will probably call it Megagong or something else with -gong at the end. The English names have been meh for a while now.
>>55755033This is one of the few evos/designs that seemed finalized and I hate that it took two decades for them to release it, and with an underwhelming design nonetheless. Worse part was this got revealed before Sirfetch'd. The art next to the sprite shows how polished it is, you can portray it as either a samurai or a socialite. The design is that versatile.
>>55720067Here's another one.
All I want is a third mon in the Golurk evo linethe one where the seal is brokenwould love a Pseudolegend but would settle for 550+
>>55716790>Sandshrew>Sandslash.>Sandhog.Really up the spike factor. This gives me an idea.
>>55756697>Sandhog>Ground\Steel Type>Evolves at 35.>Sandhog is an evolution of Sandshrew found only within the region of <NEW PLACE HERE>. The Sandshrews slowly grew to incorporate the rich ores into their body, and over time became the Sandhog.
>>55756696>Name: GolurkhanonType: Ghost/GroundBase Stats:HP: 100Attack: 140Defense: 110Special Attack: 70Special Defense: 95Speed: 65Total: 580Signature Move: Phantom SealType: GhostCategory: PhysicalPower: 100Accuracy: 95%PP: 10Description: Golurkhan strikes with a ghostly energy that seals part of the target’s power. This move has a 30% chance to either Paralyze or Cause Confusion.Design Description:Golurkhan evolves to become larger and more fortified, looking like an ancient temple guardian. Its body is more ornate, featuring hieroglyphic-like carvings that glow with spectral energy. The limbs are bulkier, giving it a more formidable presence. Its chest opens to reveal a glowing core that pulses with ghostly energy, symbolizing its increased power. Golurkhan’s head is crowned with a pharaoh-like headdress, adding to its mystique as a guardian figure. The overall color scheme is a mix of earthy tones with accents of ethereal blue and green, reflecting its ghostly powers and ground connections.here is some ai slop of a golurk evo for you. I also like Golurk and I like Drudigon too
>>55756802All I want is BEEG PUNCH + some extra bulk for the cool ghost punch manPretty cool slop art for it thoguh.
>>55756735The shiny version has the same colors as Alolan Sandslash.
>>55753257Nice!Now a terror bird or smilodon ancient evolution
>>55718740I remember seeing a Happiny evo that evolved from having zero happiness, it was green and has a crack on it's head. I think the artist who did that slowpoke evo did that one too. It's all been wiped from the Internet though.
>>55756696>seal broken golurkunpopular opinion maybe but this is like exactly the type of thing that should be a mega evolution
>>55758662I agree, I don't think there's too much you could do with Golurk, though I'd be down for an evo regardless.
>>55757801>Eviolite Weezing
>>55717797>6'6I hate this fakemon trope so much. Do people ever look at how height intervals in Pokemon work?
alright heres my tentative list of fixes and stuff I want.
>>55759334The older fakemon understood this.
>>55743169that pinsir evo is fucking GOATED god i wish that was real
>>55759096>base 130 equivalent spdef >over base 200 equivalent def
>>55760383>>55759096Fund it.
>>55759334First, I did not make it.Second, its fine as a pet-peeve, but don't hyperfixate on an arbitrary height value. Just round it to the closest height.
>>55756505Farfetch'd's evo should be bulky or sleek, it's like they were scared of changing the original design too much. As said earlier, the galarian version feels more like an evo, the actual evo looks like a mega.
I, too, appreciate Golurk.This one was really fun to Fakemon up.
>>55762224I like the name and the design, It definitely should have an unstable look to it after removing the seal. Tombstone seems really overpowered.
>>55762692>Tombstone seems really overpowered.May bump it down to 90.
>>55759806>Meowth and Vulpix for baby formes>unironicallt wanting gimmick formesthis nigga so retarded
>>55759806>Mega Volcarona>MEGA VOLCARONAman's cooking
>>55762760I like this. I'm probably one of the few who like Nincada, and this is neat.
>>55763402>NOOOOO WE CANT HAVE HECKIN MEGAS IM LITERALLY SHAKING kys
I kinda wish the Eeveelutions had a second stage. Would allow the slightly crappier ones (Flareon etc) to get a much needed buff.
>>55763609Mega Eeveelutions remain on my wishlist from when they killed megas
>>55763609Would you use another fire stone to evolve it? Magmeon sounds cool as hell.
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>>55763402>Meowth and Vulpix for baby formesyou're right I forgot a couple of other babies
>>55764481I don't think a lot of people realize all these babies were meant to showcase the breeding mechanic. Imagine breeding your Persian or Meowth and you get a baby version of it with a move the adults couldn't learn normally. Some of them seem redundant now but back then it would have been seen as a cool mechanic. We could have had more babies than we do now.
>>55764528>Imagine breeding your Persian or Meowth and you get a baby version of it with a move the adults couldn't learn normally.the only times this is remotely worth giving a shit about is with pichu learning nasty plot and wynaut learning encore
>>55764528yeah like a lot of g2 pokemon they were meant to show off a new mechanic, which explained why they weren't around previously.>>55764537they're cute though.
>>55759096That fakemon is older than eviolite IIRC
>>55764553You are correct, these are from 2007 at the earliest. There's a Farfetch'd evo that I can't find either, I think it was either Absir'd or Prepost'rus.
>>55730848Female Reuniclus as a mother cell, featuring a little baby Solosis.
>>55764481they literally already added leafeon...
>>55764528i hope they start adding more babies again by the time they revisit alola, i need this to be in a game so they'll make a plushie of it
>>55762760I'd rather have a Shedinja evo with proper evo stats and not just Nincada's stats with atk & def swapped & minus the HP
>>55716662mega Charizard Z!
>>55764528babymons were a good concept that would have been better in a gen where they had a more versatile engine or bigger dex to work with to give them more room for creativityjohto in general just has a lot of issues that made it not a good idea>engine restrictions meant they were already pretty limited on their dex slots, so every new babymon was going to result in an evo or new line getting kicked out of the game>all of the pokemon that received babies were either ridiculously easy to get or were so late in the game that breeding them was a waste of time>none of the baby pokemon got moves good enough to justify the effort it took to get them>since there weren't a lot of mechanics or moves in the series yet, there were barely any benefits to breeding versus just capturing a pokemon, so the only real benefit to breeding was getting starter dupes or shinies>johto suffering from pretty low-leveled wild pokemon made training up babymons not worth the efforttyrogue at least justifies its existence by virtue of bridging two/three species together. a shame they didn't bother doing that again when it came to later gens
>>55764537And even then the evos got those moves added to those movepools anywayAnd hilariously azumarill and Marill has different egg moves until Gen 9 but Marills egg moves were far better (including Aqua Jet and Belly drum) so breeding an Azumarill actively made the resulting Marill worse. >>55765312The babies for Electabuzz, Magmar and Jynx are fine just have the odd egg In GS ans have those three be the only options. The only terrible Gen 2 babies were Igglybuff, Cleffa, and Pichu and Pichu was an inevitability since Pikachu is the mascot, of course Game Freak going to give it a useless baby to make Pikachu look cooler (at least that’s what I assume to reasoning was since I doubt they actually though people would like Pichu, If Raichu can’t compete with Pikachu why would they think anyone would want Pikachu by weaker and as a bobble head > babymons were a good concept that would have been better in a gen where they had a more versatile engine or bigger dex to work with to give them more room for creativityAnd yet the biggest Dexes Hoenn and Unova got 2 and 0 respective. Unova had the excuse of being intended to have a stand alone self contained dex (whether you believe it was a response to DP’s dex being too Kanto heavy is anyone’s guess) but if prevos were so important that Johto needs 7, why didn’t they spread out some to Hoenn since they actually have space then.
>>55765379my point was moreso they could have made the base implementation of breeding more engaging if they had held off on the system entirely and put it into a game where they could do more with it>pokemon potentially inheriting certain colors from one of their parents>specific 'hybrid' species/forms that can be bred from specific combinations of parents>pokemon potentially having 'egg abilities' in addition to just movesthere's a ton of different directions they could have potentially gone with it, but it's one of those cases where the system has been established for so long that they don't really have any reason to change itbut in a gen with actual online trading something like that could have really taken off
>>55720067I'll come back, I just only update these twice a year now. It's the most time effective way, let things pile up and convert them at once. Used to do it monthly and repeating all the prep became too much. Once I get going, it really doesn't matter if I label 50 images or 5.
>>55765585Proof
>>55765585>I'll come back, I just only update these twice a year now. It's the most time effective way, let things pile up and convert them at once. Used to do it monthly and repeating all the prep became too much. Once I get going, it really doesn't matter if I label 50 images or 5.Do you have these uploaded/stored somewhere? Could make a burner Google account and store them all in a public folder. Organize them by generation debut, for example.
>>55765860I might do that. I have them organized by generation, as well as artists. Collages combined are about 3 GB.I mostly haven't made them publicly available because artists can be incredibly dramatic about others "using" their art. Talked privately with a handful, most of them opposed the idea even though the origjnal idea behind was making sure they get credit. Some got outright mad for me keeping art they had deleted themselves (in all of these instances, the art was decent to great).They also had valid concerns. If people could easily access 90% of all fake Jynx evos with a few clicks, new artists could copy their existing work. Of course that's possible now as well, but having the collages would make that a lot easier. I guess I'm just not looking forward to being blasted by my favorite Fakemon artiss for simply cataloging their work.
>>55765941Counterargument: The artists putting up their works already exposes them to people reposting, using and copying their stuff. It's really a non-issue, but you said it there, a lot of artists are drama queens.
>>55763609yeah let's have the eevee family take up even more space in every regional pokedex. that sounds like a great idea.
>>55765990You would think that, but they are often not rational. There was a Twitter artist who made new Eeveelutions and blew up. 16K likes or something. Art got reposted everywhere and they lost their shit. Now, I'd like to avoid this directed at me, coming from way more people.I do lean towards having a drive folder for them, though, but I fear the reactions.
>>55766017I actually revisited the post, and it seems like the issue was resolved. Artist is ArtsicFox.
>>55766017In the end, you are taking publicly available art and compiling them together.If you use Google and look at the images tab, you effectively get the same thing. You can even narrow down the source site.You have the artists credited in the collages, so its not like you're claiming them to be yours. There is no trademark or IP for their work to worry about.I understand not wanted to get hate from your favorite artists, but you are not claiming their work as your own.The alternative would be to post everything you've got in a single threat with an associated username. That way the thread could be found in arch.b4k.co /vp/ archives.
>>55764528Im of the opinion that since incense isnt needed to breed some baby pokemon, it should give some benefit to the bred pokemon like the light ball and volt tackle. Also babies would generally be better if available early
Give me my fucking Eevee Dragon GF, I need to close that cycle.
>>55766052>>55766747What if they added a dragon eeveelution next Gen, but then added a counterpart that had evolutions for all the physical types?
>>55766367>>55765405>>pokemon potentially inheriting certain colors from one of their parents>>specific 'hybrid' species/forms that can be bred from specific combinations of parents>>pokemon potentially having 'egg abilities' in addition to just movesMy favorite is the hybrid species thing, There's nothing really stopping them from adding any of that in new gens though, likely they just never though of those ideas or just don't consider them a priority
>>55766747There's no "cycle", the theory that eeveelutions are only for the special types is pure autism.
>>55767298I agree with this ranking. I wish we could have gotten evos for the fairies, but they nipped the chance of that in the bud.
>>55764528I like baby-Pokes as a means of giving later-game Pokes more chances at a place in the player's party, but I still think they're a lot of missed potential.Like what if breeding and hatching a baby-Pokemon from an egg meant it would have a different ability than wild counterparts that it would retain with evolution? Just something to encourage us to go through with the effort.
>>55767915The perfect plushiemon does not exist, >That tauros/miltank calfTake MY MONEY!!!
>>55767915I can imagine that baby being used as an in-universum bowling ball.
>>55767323Yet all the eeveelutions are of the special category, barring the base critter itself.
>>55767298I like this notion, there needs to be more Tyrouges and Budews/Roserades. I've wanted to see a baby Onix for years, specifically for the reasons Munchlax exists. Doing that would require Onix to get a boost though.
>>55767915>>55764528maybe there'd need to be some gimmick that dealt with babies to justify having more of them
>>55769383Next gen, you start out with both a starter and a random egg. Said egg randomly containing the new baby Pokemon of Gen X. The egg hatches once you go through the general tutorial and make your way out of your hometown.
Hypno evo
>>55767932>The perfect plushiemonThat's Babeetle, good friend
>>55762760Cute
>>55756802Those high statistics are so nonsensical that they even seem strange as pure fantasy
>>55770057he looks very nice c:
>>55716662Pinsir evolution please
>>55770944
Machamp but with four legs and two arms.
Machamp but with three legs and three arms.
>>55770993>Macharge>>55771210>Machump
>>55770944Pinsir needs an evo that focuses on its horns or odd mouth.>>55770358Ledian needs an evolution period.
>>55771913Crushear is my favorite of these, with Darksilvania's worm being second. Plux will always reign supreme though
>>55771937Crushear makes me so nostalgic. Remember finding that Fakemon website as a kid and seeing it. Good memories.
>>55772740i strongly believe chimecho will get an evolution sooner rather than later. i love it but it's bafflingly terrible, not a single stat over 100.
>>55773051It needed an evolution alongside Chingling like Roselia got both Budew and Roserade. All the backlash Gen IV's evos got means we can't get a mass string of them again. Even funnier when people pretend they used Misdrevous or Lickitung.
Going by Kleavor, what Pokemon will get a similar evolution?
>>55773805>Misdrevous or LickitungLickitung was garbage but misdreavus is a bad example. Misdreavus was great in Gen 2 and Ok in Gen 3. Ironically It was the Gen 4 powecreep that made it a shitmon. Better example would be Yanma.
>>55774370Not him, but Gen IV didn't have a power creep, unless you're considering the physical special split as one and that's bullshit. It was needed for a few Pokemon, mainly Hitmonchan and fucking Sneasel, another trash mon that Gen IV saved.
>>55774340Hopefully Onix
>>55774340Vigoroth gets a split evo with 160 speed and Slow Start.
>>55772740Looks more like a ghost type than psychic.
>>55739672Mastermime was a commonly used name for a Mime evo, what the hell is a Mr. Rime anyway.
>>55770893He's always eager to impress his trainer
>>55778228i love this little guy
>>55717804>>55718023
>>55778867>Emonga wasn't a Pachirisu evo...nah.Maybe?
>>55718033>too weakwasn't it like famously on a winning team at like vgc worlds or something
>>55779306Yup, someone post the drawing of it eating a sitrus berry.
>>55760122I like Mega Slowbro but this is a much cooler concept.
>>55780612>rat evolves into a muskrat>muskrat evolves... back into a ratyeah this one might need some workshopping
>>55782434The only thing I can think of for normal Raticate is to make it a water type.
>>55782434Some of them are hit or miss. This one is kinda redundant but an interesting take on a stronger Scizor prior to Mega Scizor.
>>55717797Why are you a gay furryStop it
>>55783204And this...one.
I know those faggots at TPC will never do it but I'd give up a liver to get Jaranra to be real. With split evos making a return, it'd make a really nice split evo with Tangrowth.
>>55783909mothman would be cool but hatterene is already the flatwoods monster. presumably this was made before gen 8, though.
>>55785480Yep, the ones I'm dropping as of late are from 2008-2010, mainly because I don't see a lot of them anywhere online anymore.
>>55743568Great read, not sure why they didn't capitalize on this in the movie
>>55783416>>55783204>>55785754D you have the Breloom evolution Jesgrad (I think) made? It was Raptoloom or something.
>>55784941>>55786195Horned Jynx is something I didn't think could work.
>>55786160No, but I found this.
>>55721657Nice work. I've been digging for some Granbull evos but there's not a lot or any particularly good-looking ones out there.
>>55783416Got anymore of these? That Stonix is cute.
>>55746186>doesn't need fixing if it is uglythat's the definition of "needs fixing".>its main theme is kissingso? convey that in a non-ugly manner
>>55746029Because 99.9% of Jynx fakemons are just "what if Jynx, but hot", and proportionally-decent lips are generally considered a plus. Most people keep the lips, but tweak them a bit to make them more sexy and less Popo.Plus, Jynx's lips are kinda iconic for the Pokemon, it'd be like making a Lickitung evo with no tongue.
Grapploct always did feel underwhelming to me.
>>55789079I can definitely see it getting some sort of evo in the future.
>>55788557Scroll down to the bottom. That Stonix is an earlier design the artist did.>>55789079Funny thing, another sheet from 2010 had a boxing octopus but it was Water/Fighting.
>>55785779I understand that they did not want to overshadow the Tyrannosaurus, for this reason several dinosaurs were eliminated or, as in the case of the Dilophosaurus, it was presented in a smaller form, in the book Nedry's death was more violent.
>>55789596Some of those cross-gen evos towards the bottom are pretty cool. Unfortunately many of those are for Pokemon I don't see EVER getting an evo.
Boxing octopus at the far left, in the middle of the sheet.
>>55787848Which ones do you like?
>>55790786Not that anon, but "Mandibull" looks pretty great.Always thought Granbull would make for good regional variant potential, but an evo could work, too.
>>55789596Man, there's some interesting stuff in this dex overall.>>55790417I see a few other Pokemon, the anchor and the stonehenge one kinda. Some are coincidental but that octopus is damning enough.
>>55790786Two and three look great as well as mandibull.
>>55790786Granbrawl, Bullunge, Mastinbull, Mandibull and Grawbull are all great.>>55791441I agree, but those jellyfish lines are way too on the nose. I wouldn't be surprised if someone from TPCi at the time showed the design team a bunch of Fakemon back in 2009 and they pulled a few ideas from fans. Dragon Ball did it three times already.
>>55789596Jesus christ this dex is older than like half this boad
>>55792903The one above your post is from 2008, that's the updated one from 2009.
>>55792848Gib nutrit
>>55794356I notice a lot of Zangoose/Seviper evos lean on the two species fusing with one another. Making new lines via crossbreeding would be cool, but detrimental given the amount of Pokemon they have now.
>>55767298I don't see how Igglybuff is less different than Jiggypuff compared to Cleffa with Clefairy.
>>55773805Was there really a massive backlash? I thought all of them besides Lickilicky and Magmortar were overall liked.
>>55795132Cleffa would be in the bottom along with Igglybuff, but the starshape of its body helps give it the slightest bit of something to make it conceptual unique from Clefairy.
>>55794824True, but not always. _Trainer_Rex_ made a Seviper evo as well.
bump
>>55769221looks like a baby Skarmory
>>55784941>>55786847handlebars
>>55795137A lot of people got butthurt over the designs and to this day Rhyperior still gets shit on. Not that Rhydon was useless but Solid Rock + Sandstorm was a good setup. Shitters like Lickitung, Murkrow and Yanma needed the boost, and some underwhelming single stage Pokemon benefitted from it too.
>>55795137No not really, 10 forum posts and some Twitter threads are in fact not " a massive backlash".
>>55797244There were plenty of people who were vocal about the evolutions. I specifically mentioned Lickitung because no one gave a fuck about it, GameFreak didn't give a fuck and stuck it in the final dungeon of the game when you already had your team set up and not even the anime staff cared to use it when Jesse had one on her. Once Lickilicky came in, everyone suddenly loved Lickitung. The beta design isn't all that spectacular either.I won't say GF listened to the complaints, but we're only now getting interesting evolutions again as of Gen VIII, so I'd say enough people bitched enough for them to hold off on them for a while. Gen V's way of handling evos made me want Gen VI to do a lot of evos for Gen V's lineup, but alas.
>>55797840wow japanese fans are vocal about the new evos and they are not happy
I really like the evos from this artist.
>>55794824
>>55765702>>55790786>>55798431I'm always so thankful for these images because you can see a whole bunch of different cool ideas and styles on display. Glad you're doing okay because you're by far one of my favorite people on this hellhole with the work you've done
>>55798857I second this. Still hoping he uploads everything to a Google Drive so they're more readily accessible.
>>55789079
>>55798857>>55798985Thanks guys! I'll probably make a new thread next week (depending on how much free time I'll have for prep) then I'll look into making a Drive. The threads are usually active until we hit the image limit, meaning I could end that one with the Drive link.
>>55800161Sounds good brother, glad to hear it and looking forward to it.
>>55800413Thanks for this image, it's impossible to find new stuff on DA.
>>55801071No problem man. Yeah DA is pretty garbage. You try searching for something and just get garbage.Instagram has a lot of artists there. You can find pretty good stuff, but their search function is hot garbage.
>>55801604Fablefakemon is pretty good at shining light on new artists, though following them is messy, since they can disappear for months and come back with a new name, or rename themselves 12 times a year. DA has by far the best system to see new art uploaded by users you follow, once you find them, it has the simplest solution to keep up. Twitter for how shit it is, is actually is pretty good at recommending new artists, and it's easier to find Japanese ones as well. The site switching the Media tab to a grid is a huge time saver as well.
>>55716662This would be the coolest thing.
>>55801604Speaking of DA, I think they have the same algorithm Google has in that they'll show the most popular results and continue to put those as the recommendations. That explains why some stuff I used to find commonly is harder to find. I did find some stuff in Pinterest and Yandex.
>>55794824Not too many fakemons in this thread impressed me, but this one stands out. I never would have thought a Zangoose/Seviper fusion could work so well.>>55798344This guy's stuff is pretty good too. I especially like the inventive evolve method for Stantler here.
>>55798431I remember Seviron, man that takes me back.
Some of you may not agree with this one.
>>55790786>all purplenone of them, granbull should completely change color again if it evolves. i'm hoping for green because it would remind me of SMT cu sith
>>55798200>the japanese have terrible taste yet againimagine my surprise
>>55798339>mallar'keeit's too good of a name damn it, now i'm mad it's not real
Redesign, but could work for a split evo.
>bump limitGreat thread everyone. Hope the new Legends game will add some cool evolutions and not lean on mega evos too much.
>>55805815Amen to that, brother.
>>55805815Same, thanks for dumping all that old stuff.
