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I don’t have a good water ball yet. It’s not that good but still better than nothing for snow drop tundra.

>>55731702
ingredient magnet is good, but yeah, that's not what you really want. real shame the 50 subskill isn't 25, then it'd be useable

>>55731736
Thought the same thing. It would’ve been acceptable but this means the ball gets the curb.

Slow day, huh?

I'm torn between doing lapis or greengrass for the event week. I've only got 10% bonus on lapis and greengrass is 55%. Just got the ability to get to 60% so maybe greengrass to max my bonus out before the next legendary.

>>55732219
You will get that 60% soon enough with other beast events.

Wish I could do lapis for event, but I have 11more types to see and I don't think I'll get there in time.

>>55732219
Though they'll likely also be available on Greengrass just for accessibility, I think it's fairly likely that Suicune will also open on Cyan Beach, and Entei on Taupe Hallow, so I'm focusing on those areas for my "off" time.

>>55732219
I'd weigh how readily you're able to get the incense reward at Lapis Lakeside.
Hitting Master 3 on Lapis Lakeside is pretty tough, and the grade of Pokémon and sleep styles is reflected in that.

Whilst Lapis Lakeside does have Chikorita available (whereas Greengrass does not), Greengrass also has Sylveon where Lapis doesn't.

I'm personally leaning towards Lapis, as I can get my area bonus to 30%, compared to the 60% I already have for Greengrass. I'm still hunting for a BFS Dratini in any case.
The meal bonus will be a lot more meaningful on Lapis Lakeside, than it is on Greengrass, plus there's the added security of having a good LL team ready. It's a gamble what berries you'll get on Greengrass.

>>55732750
>Suicune will also open on Cyan Beach, and Entei on Taupe Hallow
Why does anyone think this when the events are always held on Greengrass?

>>55733433
Cause the next event isn’t?

>>55732750
>>55733764
The events have either been GG or all islands. The important ones have all been GG, but maybe they'll extend to TH and CB if Entei and Suicune keep spawning there even after the end of the event. It's still pretty unlikely though.

>>55733887
The events that have been Greengrass exclusive are because 100% of players have access to that area.

To hold an event exclusive to Cyan Beach, even if you can unlock it really quickly, risks excluding newer players.

Thematically, it makes sense to host Suicune and Entei at Cyan Beach and Taupe Hollow respectively, but that may not be what happens.

>>55733950
They could hold the event at GG + another island like the Dratini one.

Personally I prefer GG and hope the next island will be random because it incites you to raise and use more pokemon.

>>55733433
>>55733887
I'm thinking both will be open: Greengrass and their respective island. The only reason most other events take place on Greengrass only, is because it's the most accessible for new players, but they can also alter the preferred berries without disrupting the normal favorites, and alter spawns to whatever they want since practically everything spawns there.
During the Lapis Lakeside launch, some pokemon that are exclusive only to that new area, were also allowed on Greengrass for the limited event only. And since Suicune is Water (Cyan Beach preferred) and Entei is Fire (Taupe Hallow preferred), it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to have the event take place there as well.

>>55734033
I hope they don't do random islands because dragon steel poison I got one week on greengrass was hell.

>>55734417
Those three types, along with Bug, Electric, and Ghost, are the six types that have yet to get set islands.

I think what'll likely happen is the next two islands will assign these remaining six types out, and anything after that will have random berries.
The reason to do it that way is you'll have islands ready to help you get effective helpers of all types, and be ready for true randomness on a final island.
Greengrass is meant to be forgiving with whatever berries you roll, because you can climb the ranks so quickly anyway.

>>55734549
Ghost/poison/bug forest and Dragon/electric/steel ruins maybe?

>>55734577
I feel like that's how it'd go.
Although maybe not because the type groupings don't necessarily make sense, like Ice / Dark / Normal for Snowdrop Tundra.
I guess they had to throw in Normal type somewhere.

I'm over par for my 1-biscuit-per-day stock limit, so I should actually be on ultra conservative mode for the guaranteed hungry pokemon that will show up during the upcoming event.

>>55735695
If it's not hungry it doesn't get a biscuit, a lot of pokemon are already fat fucks anyway

>>55735695
>>55735916
do you guys only feed the hungry stuff? I only try to feed what I'm looking for. Right now I'm mostly focused on berry specialists.

>>55734577
I would guess Steel/Poison/electric for a power plant or modernized place. Still interested to see what we get next

>>55735988
Lately I've just been feeding anything that I could conceivably use if it got a decent enough roll, with an obvious lack of emphasis on pokemon lines that I already have a good team member of. I'll also often skip hungry pokemon if it's not something that I'll have any use for, even if it's only the candies they'll give upon release. I also rarely end up feeding the 16-point single-stagers anything, just because it's such a drain on resources unless they are specifically hungry.

>>55735988
>>55736069
to me, not feeding hungry mons (unless I don't have any and just need to use the bonus biscuit) feels like a bit of a waste, and feeding non hungry mons feels similar

And given subskills+nature can make or break basically anything, ignoring hungry ones and not getting the most out of the biscuits you do have seems silly

I think if I was just starting out the game it'd be good to be more aggressive with biscuits to try and get certain berry mons or whatever, but I have a lot of pokemon, and a decent amount of good ones, so I can just be more stingy with biscuit use to save up for the times when there is something to go after

>>55735988
This morning I got a hungry Jigglypuff, and Clefairy.
I don't need either of those, and they're also ones you don't want to recruit because they miss out on a much important evolution for those main skill and carry limit upgrades.

What I did get though, was two Ralts encounters and my daily gift was 3x Poké Biscuits.
Started with feeding the first Ralts a single biscuit, which crit for 3x friendship points.
I fed the second Ralts a single biscuit, and fed the first Ralts one more biscuit to avoid the first one going full.
The second one, I fed my premium bonus biscuit and it didn't go full on its second feeding, so I fed it the third Poké Biscuit and managed to befriend two Ralts in one morning.

Unfortunately neither Ralts were worth keeping, but raising the friendship level boosts the chances of getting "better" ones in the future (more likely to have gold skills of which only a few are actually good).

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>>55735988
I only feed hungry stuff like
>pic related

>>55731580
are they really gonna be releasing 1 new pokemon a month? I'm so fucking bored of this game and getting Wobbuffet and Gulpin every fucking night.

>>55736575
Unfortunately all currently available poison type Pokémon are pretty trash.

If you want to fill out your dex (both sleep styles and befriended), there's no harm in getting a few hungry Pokémon befriended anyway.

I hope that they give us the Nidoran family in the future, they could be good poison types depending on what role or stats they decide to give it.
I'm not entirely sure if main game base stats determines effectiveness in Sleep, but I feel like they just do whatever and pick favourites.
Compare Venusaur and Toxicroak for example.
Venusaur has a base speed of 80, but in sleep has a helping speed of 30.86x.
Toxicroack is base 85 speed, but helping speed 25.41x. It also only has access to two kinds of ingredients (oil and sausages), not three like most other species.

>>55736656
They're designated trash-rolls, not become less common as you get better drowsy power.
Getting off of Greengrass Isle also makes spawns a lot more interesting.

It's a game designed to be played just a little bit at a time daily, it's a long haul game and it's not a fit for everyone.

>>55736674
Venosaur is also a grass berry mon but I get your point.
I wouldn’t mind sausages but I already got too much oil from non-ingredient specialists.

>>55735988
For me, bonus biscuit priority goes:
>Mon I want + hungry
>Mon I want
>Hungry
>16 blip single stage mons
>Mid evos/full evos
>base mons
Kind of sucks that I've gotten to the last tier more frequently than not. I didn't think I'd ever reach that point and the release of a single mon every other month is barely holding my interest in the app.

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From some threads ago,
>>55685925
anon pointed out some existing internal names.
From my point of view, these aren’t just fanfic. So… fire week to prepare for Entei will be at the end of the month.
I wonder what NewItem will be. It has no year+month name.
On top of that, what the hell could „health“ be? Looks like it should be the version/update for August.

>>55737010
Kanto starters aren't berry, they're ingredients. Berry is johto starters

>>55737374
I know but anon compared the two so I corrected him in saying that Veno doesn’t drop poison berries but grass berries.

>>55737420
me dumb

>>55737010
Part of that is the the best poison types in this game prioritised their more important typings.
Venusaur is grass, Gengar is ghost, Victreebel is grass.

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>>55736678
>Gulpin
>Trash
Oi mate, don't make me feed you to this boy

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>>55737695
Imagine liking the worst Pokémon just to be a contrarian, you niggerfaggot.

>>55737714
>how dare you like a pokemon that isn't one of the top 50 most popular in a series with over a thousand of the things

>>55737695
In this game it is regrettably pretty trash in terms of stats and role.
Gulpin and Swalot have a big disadvantage of being poison types in a game that doesn't need them right now.

Dream Shard Magnet users are intentionally not great at gathering strength, even Lucario.
If you do want a DSM user, it's Lucario for having the best helping speed and skill trigger rate.

>>55737373
I am kind of expecting it to be fake, I mean having a "spring" event eventually would be kind of obvious since all the other mobile games are doing it. If this were legit and the v24xx etc. are the months it will happen, that would barely leave it room for the fire event.
The Sleep Health week is the beginning of August, so anyone could be googling sleep related events and make a list.

>>55737786
Yeah, but consider the factor of "I like it more than Lucario".
But yeah, obviously a pokemon without an island to take consistent advantage of is going to be subpar right now, but most poison types will get a boost once we gain access to one.

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Looking for more sleep friends. I’ve got 9 empty slots.

For a long time I just did Taupe Hollow over and over again, mainly because I liked those pokemon, and I wanted to catch more of them. In consequence I was re-using the same team of ground pokemon every week and they got really strong.

But now I do greengrass isle which requires different types every week, and we have all these type-specific events. I feel like I am wanting to train up different pokemon every week, and in consequence, none of them are very strong.

It's kind of sad, because, Pokemon is much cozier with a small group of best-bros than a bunch of mediocre pokes.

Maybe I'll have to focus on a small set by pure discipline, and resist changing it up every week.

Can anyone relate?

>>55738255
Yup, pretty much doing the same. Currently just running the starters I like, which admittedly at a high enough level is strong enough, at least in my own opinion.
I'll probably have Suicune up permanently until the next legendary run since it's a Pokemon I really like.

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Is she worth investing? It would be nice to drop my Wiggly in Lapis, but the neutral nature is a big drawback for me.
I also have a male Ralts with Skill^^ nature and speed subskills, but I want to turn that into a Gallade.

>>55738747
BFS makes it tempting, but it compromises on its main role as an E4E heather.
Skill Trigger M might be good enough but I'd have to analyze if it's justified.

>>55738747
>I also have a male Ralts with Skill^^ nature and speed subskills, but I want to turn that into a Gallade.
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>>55738892
Exactly, but preferred berries on Lapis and getting less screwed the berry roll on GG would be nice. Also variety on ingredients would be a plus with apples and corn.
>>55738969

>>55738747
As long as you upgrade to Skill Trigger M, it can hold its own. The real shame is any lack of support from nature or other Helping Speed abilities. So above average, but only just decent. And yes, Berry Finding S will impact its skill triggers if it fills up too fast, though that's less of an issue once it evolves into its final stage. Still reduces its chances of picking up a skill trigger overnight though, since that's when you're basically guaranteed to fill up.

>>55739082
I don't think skill pokemon are really worth using unless you're building for their skill that's REALLY good, or if the pokemon has Berry Finding to act as a makeshift berry farmer. Just a skill nature and Helping Speed aren't going to make it anywhere near competitive versus regular berry or ingredient pokemon.

Good Night /zzz/

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>>55738892
>>55739135
So I did run analysis on that Ralts, and surprisingly as a Gardevoir, it performs pretty well. Keep in mind that both Ralts and Kirlia are considerable under-performers, in-line with their general lack of stats in the main series.

With Skill Trigger S alone, it appears to have a skill trigger rate on-par with a Wigglytuff that has both Skill Trigger S, and a Main Skill Chance boosted nature.
However, BFS does reduce the chances of Gardevoir having a main skill trigger ready when waking from sleep.

Gardevoir is a straight upgrade to Wigglytuff in many ways. An alternative berry, arguably better ingredients, , faster helping speed, greater skill trigger chance, which together combined make it both a better strength contributor and better healer with less reliance on subskills to achieve a level of performance on-par with an optimal Wigglytuff (like my shiny one, pic related).

I'd be hard pressed to retire my beloved shiny Wiggly, but there could come a time where she's relegated to dedicated to Cyan Beach, whereas a Gardevoir would be used everywhere else and especially good on Lapis Lakeside.

>>55740136
How does BFS decrease the chance of skill being ready? I don't get it. Looking for a good Ralts as well and I guess it would help to know. I thought it would only influence berry/ingredient ratio and sneaky snacking?

>>55740136
The problem with Gardevoir is that it's significantly harder to level up than Wiggly and Sylveon. I have just enough candy to get my Ralts to 25 with 120 left to evolve it twice, while my Wiggly already being at 50+ means it has the advantage of an extra subskill, ingredient slot, and higher berry strength to make up for Gardevoir's faster helping speed. Even at Lapis, Gardevoir's berries would only slightly out-earn Wiggly's, and that's without factoring in the extra ingredients. Overall I don't feel like it's worth investing a lot of main skill seeds/handy candy just to upgrade my healer which I am already satisfied with, especially since we don't know what could be added in the future.
>>55740291
BFS means the mon will collect double the berries and thus fill up its inventory faster. Once its inventory is full, it will be unable to trigger its skill if it didn't already have it set before being full.

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Is this eevee worth investing in? I don't have a Vaporeon yet and having a level 4 ingredient magnet for cyan beach for the comfey event seems tempting

>>55740555
Speed of help down isn't very fun.

>>55740555
Without skill trigger, it's not going to be very good. That, plus speed of help down isn't doing it any favors. Really the only thing going for it is Skill Level Up M, but you can easily find one better before the event starts.

my sleep schedule lets me pick up the 6AM dinner on rollover so that's kind of gay that they're patching it out
slowbro buffs though. i'll take that shit

>Can finally use the shiny of my favorite pokemon as my profile image
>Swalot buffs
Based update.

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At least post the change logs.

>>55741162
>Slowking continues to be bottom tier

>>55741162
Strange that so many skill specialists are getting buffs.

>>55741148
I was hoping we'd get this one, can't wait. It'll be especially nice since you can show off and see what other cool ones people have.

>>55741377
Not really, skill specialist pokemon are notoriously undersea if they aren't e4e users.
A skill specialist should be potent to make up for the weaker strength boost due to less berries and ingredients.

>>55741377
Because even idealized versions of these species were pretty lackluster. Sudowoodo sort of gets away with it with a maxed out main skill level, but the other two Charge Strength M users are much stronger and more reliable for their activations.
I also assume that the carry limit buffs are actually to help smooth out their skill activations. They had previously buffed skill types to have a guaranteed trigger after a certain period of time, so the inventory increases are probably to help them pick up a skill overnight at least.

Swalot and Sableye were actually already slightly competitive with Lucario if you were just going for Dream Shards alone, so now they might be worth considering if that's literally all you want. They are still a HUGE main skill seed investment, but their upsides on shards are double that of Lucario (up to 3600 vs 1800 per trigger).

>no more bonus meal on mondays with nothing to compensate
>dinner time cut by two hours so you're fucked if you remembered later than 4am

>>55741086
>>55741682
probably should stop trying to game the sleep app

Reminder that if you completed your weekly missions already, then postpone this morning's research so that your biscuit usage and recruitments will count towards any new missions. Also we still have a free week to go wherever you want before the Flower Festival begins.

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>>55741724
in related news:

>>55741804
I wonder what that even looks like? Presumably using third party or side loaded apps to tamper with or falsify sleep sessions. Maybe messing with the Go Plus+ accessory?

It probably isn't meant to catch out people who start sleep tracking earlier than climbing into bed, or end sleep tracking later after climbing out of bed. It's dishonest but not software tampering.

>>55741928
given the wording, it wouldn't surprise me if people have been hacking to get like 70 bonus biscuits and research sessions a day

>>55741162
>nerfing the meal before 6am
Guess all the devs found out all the times I've been starving my Snorlax every Sunday night so I can get ahead on Monday. Kinda sucks since I get up before 6am for work to get in on this.

>>55741955
I reckon that item manipulation like that is much harder than faking sleep data. Skill triggers alone are handled server side so items should be too.

>>55742370
I was thinking more faking a sleep session and it counting as your first for the day no matter what, rather than having 70 biscuits each fake session

Someone on a discord probably knows what actual hacks are/were available

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How am I dogshit at -every- Pokémon game?

>>55742465
You can try to get into a good rest rhythm by going to sleep and waking up at similar times from day to day, and by aiming to be consistent in the length of your sleep

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>>55731580
Are either of these worth investing in? Leaning towards the one with higher RP since it has the better nature.

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finally got my BBC (Big Black Charizard)

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>>55743472
Congratulations.
Now post the actual stats and give it a nickname.
>>55743378
RP doesn’t mean shit.
Here, I compared them and if the one on the right had adamant, it would be only 12% better.
You’d be foolish not to take the BFS at lvl 25 IMO.

>>55741975
How are they nerfing? I always save Saturday dinner for Sunday morning and save Sunday dinner for Monday unless it will get me a rank up.

>>55743549
People were waking up between 4-6AM on monday, finishing their week, starting a new one, and cooking dinner on the new island with the sunday boost still active (since it lasted until 6AM). Basically you sacrificed your final dinner in the week for a boosted start on the following week, which is more impactful.
In order to discourage people from waking up at such hours and "exploiting" this, they are now making it so you can only cook dinners up to 3:59 AM, meaning that the boost won't be active.

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>>55737924
Adding you right now. Have room for a few more

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What do I do with this

>>55743619
Gay change but makes sense since not to be able to carry over a dinner from a past week to a new week. I'm pissed about losing 4 meals on Sunday during event weeks though. 545am is doable for me since I wake up at 6am for work but 345am is too much for a number go up game.

i'm happy about the changes
fuck the minmaxers
and that retard who keeps shilling his videos

>>55743644
>inc ingredient finding + ingredient magnet
>berry finding
Pretty good…
>dec skill chance in a skill mon
Oof..

Tbh I think it should be decent, is this your first Heracross?

>>55743644
Heracross just isn't very good unfortunately, and that one in particular is actually rather bad. You basically have yourself a stock Butterfree. Maybe a little worse, even.

>>55743546
The difference is as large as the one without bfs. I'll keep this one until I find one with better nature.

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Nickname this shitter for me.

>>55743854
Couch Potatoe

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>>55743973
Fits right in with this gang of dumbasses and he sure does love those potatoes.

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>>55740136
That's a nice Wiggly. Mine doesn't have any prospects past 30 and peaked early. I'm going to give one more night before I invest in that Ralts.

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>>55743546
He could be better but I’ll take a usable shiny.
And I don’t nickname my mons.

>>55744426
Yeah, unfortunately that speed hindering nature does actually detract from its skill trigger rate, even if the Helping Speed M helps to counteract that.

That said, Inventory Up does help skill specialists by increasing the likelihood of having a skill trigger ready upon waking up.

>>55744458
He's plenty usable yeah, works well as an ingredient magnet user plus ginger is always nice to have.

>>55743670
It's the second, but the first one is decent at best. Inv up 10 help speed (s?) 25, adamant
>>55743696
Fair enough. Always sucks to throw out a BFS mon

i wanna know what the hack was :(

>>55744825
I made a video about it on my YouTube

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check your mail premium pay piggies

>>55741804
>full peace of mind
>mind can't be at peace knowing that the app will crash and record 3 hours
and yes, I'm still mad about the first good sleep event and I used up my exp incense and the app shat itself.

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>>55745108

>>55731580
>and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device
Can I also use the Pokeball Plus? In all other ways it can be used as a Go Plus, in addition to coming with a Mew in it and being able to connect to a Switch as a controller for LGPE (and a lot of other games if you can put up with its awkward controls).

>>55745196
only the ++ works with sleep, sorry anon

I've come to the conclusion that Ingredient Pokemon with Berry Finding S are the best Pokemon. There's no "feelbad" when they pick up ingredients, because it's a bunch. There's no "feelbad" when they get berries, because you get 2. And even rare skill procs are still on par with berry farmers.

>>55744010
>Mr. Hands
>>55744458
>no nicknames

I mean, no nicknames is boring but that nickname is simply cruel.

Really hope they one day buff Research EXP Bonus to not just be a shitter Dream Shard Bonus.

>>55745697
They won’t because you can stack it. That alone makes them think that you won’t need it.
Personally, I’d like them to make it a lower increase of XP but boxed mons count as well. Same for dream shards and energy rec. that way keeping trash „might be worth it“ and you’ll have a true reason to increase your box size beyond 100 (current cap at 1000).

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>>55745737
> a true reason to increase your box size beyond 100
why do you hate your pokemon friends?

I ran a team of Raichu, Pikachu, Pichu, Jolteon (all BFS) during the Raikou event, and was able to consistently hit Master 15 both weeks, would it be an idea to run a similar team but with Cyndaquil/Quilava/Typhlosion/Arcanine, or would I be better off running triple Typhlosion and foregoing the Helper Boost 5 effect?

>>55745737
>Personally, I’d like them to make it a lower increase of XP but boxed mons count as well.
I have no idea what you're asking for.

>>55745804
Berry strength growth is exponential, so I don't see a reason why you wouldn't try running more actually different pokemon families since that's easier on your resources. If you really have enough to have 3 Typhlosions running, then sure, go for it.

>>55745839
Make it so that Research EXP up mons that are in your box also increase Research EXP for every sleep session, so that not just the mons in your team that have it increase the EXP.

>>55745753
>I chain my Pokémon permanently to me
>I also like wasting diamonds

>>55745839
It's mainly because I'm mad turnt on cooking being worthless, so x3 Berry Pokemon are way more appealing to me, of which Typh/Raichu/Feraligatr are the three for Entei/Raikou/Suicune

Hell, I'm so anal about it I basically avoid all x1 Berry Pokemon unless they have BFS

>>55745855
Well now that's just silly.

>>55745856
>chain my pokemon
okay peta
>wasting diamonds
eh, they're just used for bag and inventory space, it's not like i'm running out

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>>55745979
I agree with more ingredient bag space but you won’t need more than 300 inventory space ever unless you’re a hyper whale or extremely frugal.
Diamonds are also able to buy biscuits in the shop (only consistent way for a F2P to get great biscuits) and XP incenses or the best thing you could buy: good camp tickets.

>>55746144
*300 inventory space for ITEMS.

>>55746144
>you won’t need more than 300 inventory space ever
never going to need more than 64kb of ram either

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>>55737924
Thanks to all the new friends who added me! Already bringing in shiny luck.

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Removed some inactive players so have some room for new friends

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After nearly 500 candies, here she is. She's going to be in for the long haul. Thanks frens for providing 300 of the candy needed.

>>55746178
Factually incorrect, I put Firefox on my ram and some other smaller stuff to save myself some SSD rewrites.

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Need more friends
7453-1546-8641

>>55746144
I'm at about 300 item space too atm, and yeah that's just because I'm holding onto my dream clusters for as long as possible.

Good camp tickets are undoubtedly the best item in the shop there, but you should only use them for the most important events where you need the added strength gians and Pokémon encounters.

Premium plan is far, far superior to anything in the diamond shop honestly. The premium bonus biscuit, added sleep points, premium sleep points store, and the occasional gift of good camp tickets and other nice things makes it worthwhile.
Buying diamonds ain't it. Use the ones you get for free on storage upgrades above all else.

I would say XP incense is eh, not worth buying.
Sure you can use one on a good-sleep night to get an effective 4x sleep EXP earning up to 400 EXP, but that's only the equivalent of using 16 candy or getting four regular nights of sleep.
Technically 80 candy if you consider using a team of five Pokémon, plus no dream shard expense.

I gotta imagine there's whales out there that use an XP incense every single night and their Pokémon are way higher level than usual for it.

>>55746372
pokemon are capped at level 55 for now, no?

>>55746377
So does your rank I think

>>55746377
>>55746401
Yes but got to remember maxed mon fills candy bar. I have one about to hit 55 in the next week and will be nice to see the bar again. Being maxed rank gives exp converted to dream shards and I currently am bottlenecked by shards so I'm hoping that helps.

>>55746435
I decided to go less hard at leveling. My sleep dex is ready in case a new area is released, my shards are only at 250k at the moment

>>55746435
The research EXP to dream shard conversion helps a ton, it's more or less 50% extra dream shards.
I'm gonna enjoy that whilst it lasts, because they'll inevitably raise the max research rank again sometime. It might even happen sooner with the planned v1.5.0 app upgrade?

My shiny Wiggly and BFS Raichu are currently level 52, and could be on their way to level 55 but probably not before a level cap increase.
Whilst I could level them up now it'd cost about 67k dream shards each, so maybe not worth it to get one or two extra handy candy S for what might be a few weeks.
Levelling up Pokémon earlier rather than later makes a big difference in dream shard expenditure.

>>55746794
Is that 250k shards with or without using up clusters? Fully upgraded cooking pot at 57 capacity?
I'm at about 135k shards without tapping into my clusters.
At research rank 55, my 130 Dream Cluster S are worth 2054 each, and my 21 Dream Cluster M are worth 12,324 each. I can exchange those for up to 525,824 shards.

Since it costs about 177k to level a Pokémon from level 10 up to 50, or 298k from 10 to 50, I'll continue to hold onto the dream clusters until I REALLY need them. So far I've been doing fine with whatever I earn from sleep research or strength rankings.

>>55747140
We will likely get another candy boost event for Entei/Fire Week. You can level your bros when that happens

>>55748139
Hah, do NOT use candy boost to level anything past 30. That's when shards-per-candy costs really start to hike up, and candy boost does absolutely no favors for that.

I still haven't seen an Onix yet, though to be fair, I don't think I've been back to Taupe since it showed up. Maybe this will be the week that I see it and then not feed it anything for at least several other sightings.

>>55749519
It took me a long time to get an Onyx, and I was doing Taupe Hollow for a long time. I ultimately caught three total, and turned two into Steelix, who are now my main boys.

>>55749766
Why did you evolve both? One could’ve stayed unevolved as a berry farmer for taupe itself.

My Dearest Margaret,

The nights have been long, cold, and uneven. It has been a fortnight and I have nere managed even a crumb of good Pokemon. They come, but they are nothing but stragglers and scabs unable to carry the weight of their own body, let alone their pack. Food is scarce that I have begun scraping the edges of my Poke Biscuit rations and am sure to exhaust my supply before month's end. There is no hope left for me, my darling. Should you fail to receive further letters, I only ask that you refrain from looking in my desk. Burn it if you will, but pay no effort to any contents found within.

Yours Truly,
Nathadniel

>>55750850
Pottery

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Damn, that’s a lot of sleep.

>>55731580

>>55731580
Did they stop converting research EXP into dream shards once you hit the level cap? I hit rank 55 a couple nights ago and I was looking forward to hoarding more shards but I could have sworn there was some indication in the UI that indicated the conversion last time, and it doesn't look like anything's happening. Am I going insane or did they actually just axe this feature?

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Is this worth leveling? I’m on premium but the exp down seems like a pain with onix

>>55751477
Personally? i would.

>>55751282
There's an option in the settings somewhere to turn off the reminder that your research EXP is being converted into dream shards.

The daily results doesn't actually display your previous and current dream shards after earnings, so you'd have to manually check what your held shards are before and after sleep.

angy monke slep

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this shit good?
i'm thinking of just spending the candies and evolving it

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>>55751792
He's dead, Jim

>>55751859
Seems good to me. Good nature, though probably would have preferred a Helping Speed sooner than later and gingers over beans, but overall very solid.
It would probably be pretty hard to come across something better unless you're close to level 10 friendship to guarantee those gold skills. Though even then, that's a bit of a crap shoot going for 1/7 Berry Finding ON TOP of complimentary skills/nature.

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usable?

>>55751988
Technically yes, but I don't think I would want to invest in a Pseudo without Berry Finding at level 10 or 25. It's going to take about 400 candies just to get it to a level 25 Dragonair, so whatever you pick better be well worth it. To get to Dragonite from there is a whole 'nother journey.
Either you have really strong ingredient finding capabilities, or you have Berry Finding to offset whenever it fails to gather ingredients.

>>55752243
>>55751859
why does bfs matter on an ingredient specialist?

>>55752261
It doesn’t matter for ingredient specialists but it matters for hard to train Pokémon. Everything that’s either pseudo, legendary or has a XP down nature needs BFS IMO.

>>55751982
I could slowly save up for some seeds to improve those late subskills as well

>>55750372
I already have a ton of berry farmers for Taupe, but not a lot of Steel type pokes. I imagine it's inevitable they will make a map for Steel type berries, and I'll be ready.

Any way Steelix is cooler than Onyx and I like having Steelix-Bros.

>>55752261
Because even at max ingredient finding, it's picking up ingredients about 40% of the time or less. Plus it's easily going to fill up its inventory during your sleep, so you might as well get some extra power out of it though sneaky snacking. So even if your ingredient specialist has an ingredient down nature, a BFS ingredient-type is still a better all-rounder than most dedicated berry farmers.

>>55752352
I mean, it's pretty much set for now considering you can't get past level 55 yet. And it being a Psuedo, it's going to take quite a while for it to become a Tyranitar let alone unlock even its level 50 skill.

>>55752383
Steelix is overdesigned. Onix is perfect.

I need only THREE sleep styles to unlock Lapis
just what the fuck am I missing to discover???

someone should make a chart for what the best possible mon of each species is

>>55752517
Help speed
Berry finding
Ingredient finder/Skill activation for the respective specialists.

The best pokemon ever is a BFS ingredient specialist with a gatherer skill.

>>55752347
>Everything that’s either pseudo, legendary or has a XP down nature needs BFS IMO
Why do you think this?

>>55752507
Note that if you were trying to grind styles from Greengrass, most of the 3* styles are found on the specialty islands.

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Caught my first shiny :)

>>55752770
right now i'm on tundra
but not quite reaching master just yet
still, there are quite a few styles just from here that i'm missing and they are not spawning yet

>>55752807
how many months have you been playing and do you often not feed hungry pokemon?

>>55752807
Nice tree

>>55752849
It's a level 7 sudowoodo. It's safe to assume he's quite new.

>>55752871
Thats not answering my question and wasn't meant for you. Let the man speak for himself. It's good info to know to for average shiny occurrences.

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>>55752849
>how many months have you been playing
Less than 1? I think I started at the beginning of this month. It was the last week of the Raikou event.

>do you often not feed hungry pokemon?
I don't think so. There have been a few times where I didn't if it was some Pokemon I already had, but since I'm still new, that hasn't happened much.

>>55737924
>>55743628
added. here's mine

What decides when the app auto darkens? I’ve noticed it always does it if I turn my phone upside down, but it used to also do it when I had it turned up, which made it a lot easier to leave it on without being flashbanged every time I turned over to the side. Not a huge deal but just tapping the screen to check the time is nicer than having to flip the phone each time

>>55752893
Well if you want data, a sample size of 1 and 1 isn't going to tell you much.

>>55753139
The app will turn off the screen if it doesn't detect light. But if you just want to flip it back over after it turns off the screen to have your phone face up, that should work too.

>>55752807
Congrats, got a nickname for her?

>>55753211
>Well if you want data, a sample size of 1 and 1 isn't going to tell you much
>Just don't even start collecting data bro. It won't even help until way later so why even start?

>>55753273
Your data method is flawed. Just sayin.

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Thoughts on this guy?

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A strange problem to have, my cooking pot is at maximum size (57), and my Lapis Lakeside team is gathering ingredients faster than I'm able to use them.
My team is level 52 Wigglytuff, level 52 BFS Raichu, level 30+ BFS Meganium, level 30+ BFS Victreebel, and level 30+ Bewear (all corn).
The Victreebel has been a beast at gathering potatoes, so I've been selling the excess in favour of adding more corn.

As it turns out, this team formation is able to gather all the ingredients needed for Greengrass Salad, and for Calm Mind Fruit Salad, which is fantastic for salads (and the guaranteed salads next week).
I have to swap in a Cooking Power-Up S user to be able to make Greengrass Salad during the week though, since it needs 62 ingredients.
These two salads incidentally also have no ingredient overlap except for corn, which makes it easier to alternate the two when you're short on ingredients for either.

>>55753216
So far I've been making all of the nicknames sleep puns, but I'm running low on ideas. So far I'm thinking something like "___loggo" for "out like a log"/"sleeping like a log" joke. Don't know what to put in the blank.

>>55753914
The nature is tragic, but ironically would contribute more strength than a BFS Charizard with an Ingredient Finding boosting nature, or an Ingredient Finding optimised set without BFS.

BFS is just that damned good, really. That Charmander is worth running.

>>55753930
Something about sawing logs?

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Heh, almost.

So when should we expect to know what comfey does? After this maintenance?

>>55754223
Support specialist. It can only learn support skills.

>>55754223
Changes to Energizing Cheer make it seem like that may be linked.

>>55752507
>>55752828
if you're mostly getting one style of sleep you can end up like me and have 30 unfound snoozing pokemon styles on greengrass and only 5 unfound slumber

>>55752652
… beceause they are hard to train and opportunity cost dictates that you can’t train all of your mons at once.

I'm so over this app and especially Wobbuffet, every fucking night I get 2 Wobbuffet, no matter when I go to sleep, no matter when I wake up, that fucking blue blob, every. single. time, 1000+ Pokemon and they think adding 1 new pokemon every month is gonna be enough to keep the game fresh?

I'm so bored of it.

>>55737924
how do you add friends? I don't see any options for it in the menu?

Shiny icons are out but it’s missing some of my pokemon, darn

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Very nice.

These lines were added:
Default
v101
v102
v103
v2311Eevee
v2312Holiday
v2401NewYear
v2401FieldAdd
v2402Valentine
v2402Electric
v2403Raikou
v2404Spring
v2404Fire
v2405Entei
v2406Summer
v2407Aniv1year
v2408Health
Pending

Makes me wonder when they are planning Suicune perhaps between Summer and Anniversary, but Entei lines were already visible from versions 1.2, but never was aware of these lines.

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Where my OG anons at? I don’t want to remove you :(

>>55755267
Main Menu > Research Community > Symbol of a Person with a +

>>55755277
I realized I'm missing my Bonsly/Sudowoodo, but that seems to be the only set missing.

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>>55731580
anyone else stuck on this title screen?

>>55755342
Europou has been gone for like 2 weeks. It’s time to let him go

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comfey scores needed + snorlax strength
greengrass - ultra 3 @ 109,130
cyan beach - Great 5 @ 101,499
lapis lake - great 2 @ 130,668

>>55755411
you probably need to either clear cache or update your app as we're on 1.5 now, not 1.4.2

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I really didn’t need a higher carry limit.

>>55755285
I’m missing a bunch. I have the shiny Chikorita line and a shiny Wynaut but they’re not available.

>>55755431
weird that it didn't auto update for me

>>55755411
They warned that 1.4.2 to 1.5.0 is not compatible and urged everyone to update. You might be required to reinstall, but try >>55755431 first.

I wish the other areas increased EXP gained. Most of them don't have enough new pokemon to justify spending a week on them for small area boosts. Maybe +2% EXP for Cyan, 4% for Taupe, 6% for Snowdrop, 8% for Lapis, and so on.

Smaller pool means higher chance to get what you want.

>>55755449
Huh, I have the shiny Chikorita line on mine, so I guess it's not like it's just missing from the game.
Shiny Bonsly/Sudowoodo were my first shinies, but they're not in my list. Maybe the UI is limited by mistake? My list only showed about 10 slots to show even though I have more shinies than that. Can't post or confirm since I already started tracking.

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>>55755495
I thought it might be a thing for Pokémon with sexual dimorphism but >>55755285
has Pikachu, Eevee and Wobbuffet included. All I can say for sure is the normal and shiny icons are male only.

>>55755449
>>55755530
yeah for me it only shows me my Manky and Marowak when i also have a Slowbro, Lucario, Cubone and Rattata. idk if its a gender thing ether cause my Marowak is female

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I think that it’s just random. I’m missing Ratata because I got my Raticate from evolving it (you can can calc that based on carry limit or main skill level).
I still got Doduo despite currently only owning my Dotrio which I evolved from a Doduo (same calc).
It is what it is. Just wait a while, they’ll probably fix it.

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>>55755575
The dex also registered them correctly.

I am also missing rattata, female

quite an early catch for me, it was the 44th pokemon i caught

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>>55755581
pic related

>>55755581
It seems likely that there's a cutoff date for when they got registered, as my earliest shinies are missing too. Maybe some flags are missing from around when they fixed evolved species not being registered as captured.

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>>55755603
other people are suggesting it's shinies from before this patch in november are missing

https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/4065/

>>55755615
This does seem to be the case yeah.
My shiny Caterpie (Butterfree), Graveler (Golem), Bulbasaur, and Riolu are all pre-November finds. I can't select their shiny icons.

I can select ones from December onwards like Igglybuff to Wigglytuff, Persian, Squirrel, Wobbuffet, and Wynaut.

I wonder why the registration date is even an issue? All of my shinies are still registered in my sleep dex.

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Just found this ralts, is it worth investing in as a healer?

>>55755708
With a lot of investment sure, but if it doesn't activate it'll contribute very little to the team.

>>55755765
>>55755708
This mon is worth investing. Only helping speed M and helping bonus (and corn) would make it more perfect. The odds of not getting this ever again are higher.
If you struggle with main skill seeds it’s still worth training up to a gard.

>>55755708
Ralts starts off very weak, but once evolved up into a Gardevoir it'll be an amazing support.
It won't reach it's best potential until level 50, but will still perform really well at 25 onwards. Inventory Up boosts the likelihood of getting a skill trigger after waking up.

Like the other anon said, the only way this could be better is if it had any helping speed boosts, or corn. It's a Ralts to be proud of.

>>55755708
Yes!

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Check 'm

>>55755708
Yes, Gardevoir with MSkill nature, Speed M and Trigger M keeps my team above 100 the entire day.

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>>55755439
Do you ever run your slowking?

I candied up a slowpoke to unlock tails. I’ve held on to him on the off chance there were buffs and I get an extra nature berry someday. We got the buffs so maybe there’ll be a way to change this guys nature eventually too.

>>55756006
Nah, I powered her up to get tails in my ingredient pool then benched her so my magnets could farm them and other ingredients too. I’ll swap her back soon though, just need to fill up my general stock so I can specialise in egg, oil and tail harvesting. I still don’t have a leak supplier though. I can see nature mints coming down the line. The fact that Slowpoke got buffed at all is a good sign that they might buff more stuff. I hope Farfetch’d comes in to give better leak harvesting options.

I love how everyone is putting up a shiny profile now, but the nerf to the 6am meal really sucks.

>>55756355
I am removing anyone that puts up a shiny raikou

>>55756500
I bet you drive a loud car.

>>55756041
I recently similarly powered up a Ditto to unlock Leeks, and I ended up being pretty disappointed in its ability to actually gather them.

I'm hoping we get a better source of Leeks at 30 than Dugtrio. There are plenty of good Pokémon that can get Leeks at 60, but that's unavailable right now.

>>55756811
post your dugtrio

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>>55756874
NTA but here:
it gathers berries most of the time and if it does ingredients it’s tomathoes

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>>55756874
I haven't invested into any of these as Taupe Hollow hasn't been my focus for a while.
Like most players, I just unlock the ingredient somehow and then let Ingredient Magnet S users gather them. This might end up being better than actually running the dedicated ingredient gatherer even if it does restrict your means to make certain recipes consistently.

For Taupe, I have pretty good Charizard, Typhlosion, Flareon, Golem, Pupitar, and then I always have my shiny Wiggly running.
The plan was that whenever I go back to Taupe Hollow, I'll focus on getting my Pupitar evolved up into Tyranitar and finally go to Snowdrop Tundra, and hope to find a good Dugtrio or Marowak in that time.

It's pretty crap that literally only Diglett/Dugtrio and Ditto gather Leeks at 30, but then there are six families that unlock Leeks at 60 (Ralts, Houndour, Bellsprout, Mr. Mime, Chikorita, Raikou).
These obvious bottlenecks are by design though, it gives them the option to introduce an exciting new Pokémon that falls the gap.

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>>55757550
An exception to the "just unlock the ingredient" thing for me was mushrooms.
I wanted a good Gengar very early on, and got an excellent roll somewhat recently. I powered her up to a level 30 Gengar as soon as Monday rolled around with the "use 262 candies" mission, and she's been absolutely fantastic at gathering herbs and shrooms.

>>55757567
Is charge strength the worst skill to have?

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8 months. Although the calculated time works out to around 6.5 months of actual nights used. While it has Sleep EXP Bonus and slept through a good number of Good Sleep weeks, that seems to be about the time it takes with extremely minimal candy usage.

>>55757674
Not necessarily.
Many three-stage Pokémon get the skill, and its effect scales with the area bonus.
Variable Charge Strength S at level 3 has a range of 393 to 1570, which you would expect to average out to 981; an improvement over the non-variable version which is a fixed 785 strength.
I have a BFS Meganium that also happened to have Skill Level Up M on level 25, so it enjoys variable Charge Strength S. It proc'd today and added over 3000 strength to Snorlax, which is more than a good helping of its favourite berries.

Golduck is a variable Charge Strength S user that notably has an absurdly high based skill trigger rate of 12.5%. If you raise to level 7, the gains range from 1501 to 6004!
It requires frequent interaction, but a choice Golduck can be extremely effective due to every gather having a 1/8 chance to trigger its skill.

For Gengar, the main skill isn't the point and it's just a small bonus atop of its main role of getting you lots of ingredients really fast. For that reason, a nature that reduces the main skill chance is welcome, such as Rash or Naughty.
Ingredient specialists have a less advantageous nature pool, since unlike berry specialists there isn't a strictly beneficial decrease to pick from.
Rash is arguably the best nature for ingredient specialists (that lack Ingredient Magnet S), because the alternatives for increasing Ingredient Finding are to reduce EXP, Energy Recovery, or worst of all Helping Speed.

>>55757674
>>55757891
It's less about the skill itself, and more about who has it.

Take Charge Energy S for example, a user can just recover 2-3 hours of its own energy on a whim, and keep working its best. The majority of Pokémon with this skill are berry or ingredient specialists, enabling them to keep gathering the good stuff, and it's particularly notable on Dragonite and Tyranitar, but also good on Victreebel and Dodrio.

However, Umbreon is a Charge Energy S skill specialist with no particular berry or ingredient proficiency and a slow helping speed.
As a result, its main skill only serves to keep its mediocre gathering capabilities at peak performance, which is a real shame.
Most skill specialists are given skills that either build strength directly (Charge Strength, Extra Helpful, Ingredient Magnet), indirectly (Energizing Cheer, Energy for Everyone, Cooking Power-Up S, Tasty Chance), or very indirectly (Dream Shard Magnet).
Charge Energy S is the only purely self-serving main skill, which is a bad fit for skill specialists that serve a support role.

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Come on, somebody get a potato!

>>55757980
Umbreon is a waste of sleep hours honestly.
Even with main skill chance down it triggers far too often.

>>55758406
That just frees you up to an even broader nature/skill range to be usable. I mean it's not like it's particularly preferable above any of the other Eeveelutions with Berry Finder, but it's on par in practice. Its self-charging matters a bit more now that energy drains during sleep, so going to sleep at the 150 energy cap means that it's actually capable of running at peak speed 24/7.

Introducing Team Tempo

>>55758638
And the pic didn't keep when I refreshed. Of course

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>>55758406
Umbreon has a skill trigger rate of 14.1%, that's why really.
Compare to that to say, Tyranitar with the same skill but a 5.1% trigger rate.

>>55758493
Like, yeah Umbreon has the privilege of staying absolutely juiced, but that doesn't amount to much.
Most other dark types with sub-optimal energy are still going to out-perform a fully juiced Umbreon.

>>55758771
I don't consider any Eevee/Eeveelution without BFS worth using, with the exceptions of Sylveon and Espeon who go for maximum skill triggers. So in comparisons, I always compare Eevees with BFS vs non-BFS other pokemon.
The benefit of Eevees is that they're very accessible so that you can easily reach the level 10 friendship boost to get the guaranteed gold skill, as well as easily encounter dozens that you can sift through to find actual decent ones. Most of the line can just be considered makeshift berry farmers due to the lack of berry types in general and are by no means the top of their class.

>>55758856
What about Glaceon as an ingredient farmer

>>55758926
Flareon and Glaceon have perks of being able to gather Milk and Cacao for Taupe Hollow and Snowdrop Tundra respectively, and both having Cooking Power-Up S to help out.
It should only be considered as a minor source though, but Flareon does help out for an island notoriously lacking in dessert options.

>>55758926
The entire Eevee line is stuck with the same ingredients, and it's quite bad at getting them. Flareon is OK for getting milk for Taupe as long as it has it also has 2x milk at level 30, but I wouldn't delegate ingredient farming to anyone but ingredient types.
There are a handful of non-ingredient pokemon that can gather 3x on their level 30 ingredient however (Meganium and Altaria for example). I always consider that welcome and preferred regardless of what actual ingredients are being gathered, but it's still no replacement for actual ingredient types.

>>55731580
New comfey info
Tldw comfey is an ingredient specialist
https://youtu.be/_H1BJj5AAKo?si=yIxrCmXfl7IzTmvT

raenonx is effectively blocking access if you have an ad blocker on. This has kept up enough that we should probably add warnings to the OP against using it except for the most dire of situations. I already use it a lot less than before, but now it's literally unusable.

>>55750850
5/5 breddy gud

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>>55757891
I’ve been sitting on this cyndaquil for weeks now as I try to find a better one, but I never seem to get one to appear.

The old calculator had given it an A, which I thought was too high, but with this in mind it might actually be worth investing in this guy, especially once he hits level 50 and he has skill level 5.
Or maybe I’m just getting antsy and hoping to have a decent fire team by the time entei drops.

How many anons actually take lvl 75 and 100 skills into consideration when choosing mons to keep? I can almost justify looking at the lvl 60 ingredient slot, but those last two skill slots just feel like a dumb tease more than anything.

>>55759733
There's nothing that's particularly conductive to what Typhlosion is doing and the old calculator was pretty "dumb" about it's evaluations. It didn't take into account the species focus and just assigned arbitrary values to each of the skills possible. While Typhlosion's skill is decent, building for the skill specifically isn't super great. I'd consider it a nice bonus, but not much more above that. It's certainly better than a lot of other possibilities, but at the same time I wouldn't be that excited about it.

>>55759765
If anything, skills at level 75 and 100 end up actually being reasons to dismiss a certain load out. It's pretty common that M skills show up there, leaving you only access to S skills that can't be upgraded. And any big skills at those levels are pipe dreams at this point since it's much easier to keep rolling until you find those skills in earlier spots.

>>55759135
which, if you weren't just here to shill the youtuber, you could've found out 17 hours before, as it was on serebii and raADBLOCKBADenSTOPUSINGADBLOCKPLSonx not long after the patch >>55755421

who watches vids when you can read the same info 100x faster

>>55760310
Where in that post does it mention anything about comfey being an ingredient specialist with emerging cheer?

>>55760336
it doesn't, but it was on the websites at that time, as I made that post

>>55760361
>it doesn't, but it was on the websites at that time, as I made that post
Ok retard, how would anyone know what website and if it were there or not?

>>55760418
now you're just being facetious

>>55760446
I'm not. Explain how I would know the info exists or that it could be found there? Tell me.

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I got this eevee that has main skill boost for its first two sub skills. If I evolve it at level 25 it’s main skill will be level 5

Is this a good eevee?

>Only counted half of my sleep last night before deciding to close
>Added the proper hours to make up for it
>Now it'll only count half my sleep due to this game's "fuck you" policy on making up for lost sleep

I hate that it takes TWO nights to get past one shitty session.

>>55760522
You should be able to choose nap

>>55760486
No fucking clue. it's not in English.

>>55760486
Looks like a tolerable Vaporeon to me.
Bruder, stell dein Spiel auf Englisch. Ist ja peinlich

>>55760486
I don't speak kraut, so I can't tell what the other skills/stats are besides the ones you just named.

>>55760474
>how would i know?
Still being facetious. It's called curiosity. There's new pokemon about to be in the game, you want to check it out, so you look it up

>but w-what site?
like seriously fuck off. I don't even like the site, but it's beyond retarded to even pretend you wouldn't be aware of the website. it's in every OP and referenced in like 20% of posts in every thread

Please stop shilling the videos here

>>55760564
>There's new pokemon about to be in the game, you want to check it out, so you look it up
How should I know where to look? How would I know that there's new info that's never been mentioned yet? Are you retarded? Is there even a link to this info? I'm just supposed to know and constantly check if there's new info? Where's the link to this info? Where's this info ever mentioned in this thread previously?
>>55760564
>like seriously fuck off. I don't even like the site, but it's beyond retarded to even pretend you wouldn't be aware of the website. it's in every OP and referenced in like 20% of posts in every thread
What site is it? You havent named it once. Nor shown where it's actually posted. Stop being a retarded faggot. If there's new info then post it with a link instead of acting like rain man and pretending everyone should just realize there's new info that's never been mentioned previously...
>>55760564
>Please stop shilling the videos here
No. Nigger. It's an update on info that's literally never before posted here. Suck my dick faggot.

this has to be bait

>>55760604
dude found some facetiousite and turned into megafacetious

Pls stahp fellow researchers :(
Is just a sleep app.

New Datamine just leaked.
https://youtu.be/EHqs-zYhMnM?si=Znqh9ZeyuO4Nbex8

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>>55760033
>skills at level 75 and 100 end up actually being reasons to dismiss a certain load out. It's pretty common that M skills show up there
Pretty sure subskills follow the normal distribution and aren't weighted depending on whether its 10,25,50,75 or 100, but I don't have a graph to prove it yet

>>55760535
>>55760553
I don't speak Sausagenigger, either, but can you seriously not tell from context clues and knowledge of English?

>25 and 50 Skill level up
>50 and 75 Ingredient finder
>100 Inventory up
>Help speed up/energy down

>>55760594
Imagine being this angry than no one wants to give your SEAnig likes...

>>55760690
I'll post someone else from now on. You're welcome.

>>55760673
I didn't mean that I thought they're programmed to be in those slots, just that it seems to happen often enough.

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>>55760748
My 100 is showing a lot of gold and little blue, but yeah doesn't look specifically altered at higher levels

>>55759557
I agree, Raenonx' behaviour shouldn't be rewarded.
If you get "connection closed" when navigating the site, simply reloading the page works just fine, it's a relatively minor nuisance.

I use uBlock origin and it looks like the default lists now stop the delayed ad-swaps/nags to an extent.
Looking at Raenonx's Reddit comments though, the guy has his head up his ass and doesn't understand catching more flies with honey than with vinegar. I am not endeared to support his site, and if he's complaining about costs he should learn how to perform basic optimisation (don't serve hundreds of large uncompressed images).

It's regrettable because his site does have some genuinely valuable resources, and I've been willing to pay for apps like CalcyIV (Pokémon Go assistant app) because they offer a genuine value and weren't obnoxious with their free version.
He seems really immodest about what he's trying to achieve though. He's apparently getting $794 a month from a few hundred supporters, which should probably be enough to host a modest version of the Sleep Info Wiki, but he's apparently paying Discord mods and stuff too?
He seems intent on way over-delivering features to sell as premium for what most people will want to use as a resource to learn about which Pokémon work best, and which subskills work best. Sleep is not that complex of a game, the number crunching is not that crucial to playing it (though neat to see), so much as the decisions made that form a Snorlax feeding strategy to try and get the best gains week on week.

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>>55760522
>app shits itself on a monthly basis
>it happened twice now within a week
>devs still won't give us the option to adjust it
I'll be fine even if it doesn't give points but PLEASE LET IT RESTORE ENERGY AT LEAST IF WE HAVE TO MANUALLY ENTER DATA GOD DAMN.
AND YES I'M STILL MAD THAT THE APP CRASHED WHEN I USED BOTH MY EXP INSCENSE ON THE FIRST GOOD SLEEP NIGHT EVENT.
FUCK.

>>55761213
Even if I am not technical about this, I think Raenonx is an asshole with a complex. I will not visit his webpage at all.

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>needed to get 100 point sleeps every day this week to get to 6969 sleep points or whatever
>get 95 last night and ruin it at 6469
whenever I'm the most tired and fall asleep instantly is when the game decides it took me a really long time to fall asleep.

>>55761213
the sleep "community" is not large enough to sustain a site like raenonx just like that
there are plenty of good devs and it's possible that someone will make a simplified version of raenonx for free and supported by donations

>>55761897
you're just being ungrateful by not paying the guy. don't you know it took him 2k hours to whip up a site to display info he gets from the discord for free

>>55760745
How about posting your suicide livestream instead

is there any reason not to autocook everytime?
i havent unlocked half the dishes

>>55762057
better meals is better points. unlocking ingredients and meals give diamonds

Greengrass or Cyan Beach for Comfey Week? Obviously I can get a chance at 3* sleep style at Cyan Beach but not sure if the other bonuses make Greengrass more worth it
I don’t have Lapis Lakeside yet

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Can this guy work or is help speed down instant crushed into candy

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Is this the perfect Geodude?

If a Pokemon has Energy Recovery down,you have an Energy Recovery Bonus Pokemon, and you sleep for a whole 8.5 hours, mathematically that brings them to a 100 (based on them getting to 88 after 100 sleep, and 1.14 being 114 energy), but does that work in practice?

>>55762090
Help speed down wouldn't be so bad, it's the ingredient finders that seal the deal on it sucking.

>>55762090
I think the bigger detriment is actually the loads of Ingredient Finder. I'm pretty sure that even with BFS, that many detractors ends up worse than a regular Chikorita with lots of Helping Speed.

>>55762108
Hardly. Its skills and ingredient loadout are good, but the skills are in a reverse order to be of any use.

>>55762191
Energy Recovery Bonus should be enough to get an energy down pokemon to 100% after a full sleep. But sleep energy caps at 100%, so it doesn't do anything to normal pokemon unless you're splitting your total sleep time by tracking twice per day.

>>55762087
I got Lakeside and waited for a while before going there. It’s brutal.
Personally, I’ll go to Cyan Bitch because there are a lot more spawns there besides Comfey and outside of the event I’m interested in.

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>>55762087
Depends what you want.
If you just want a Comfey, Cyan Beach has the most narrow selection of favored spawns. It's Snoozing type, but you'll have a chance to encounter it regardless of sleep style during the event. Good Sleep Week is also happening in the middle of it, which should net you better chances so long as you meet the minimum appearance rank.

>>55761951
every twat online now can make a website and charge bazillions for the service, doesn't mean it should be that way

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No nature, is this good enough? Got helping speed and free skill level up

>>55763137
Pretty good IMO. Natures end up being slightly better than S-rank subskills just stats-wise, but M-rank subskills are way more impactful. A Subskill Seed now, then a Subskill Seed later to get an extra +1 Main skill will have it near the top of its class. Plus you've got a good ingredient spread.
You could try to keep rolling as you get your level 10 friendship, but Helping Speed M and Skill Trigger M are basically the most preferred set for a skill-focused pokemon.

>>55763137
is it a boy? or a girl?

My 2 weeks at Taupe are looking pretty sad. I got a shiny Eevee I guess, but it's not worth turning into anything.

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>>55731580
Investment worthy?

>>55764980
No.

>>55763234
Nice, thanks anon.
>>55763302
Boy

>>55762274
the geodude is definitely good

>>55765185
>>55765275
Why do you think so

>>55765296
It’s a Croagunk.

Man, my ingredient mons barely picked up shit this week.

I've already changed to cookmaxxing mode for next week. Have my bag full of stuff to make at least two greengrass salads and then make ninja salads for the rest of the week, and I'm sticking with my Magnezone + Dedenne to just stack their skills for a super breakfast on monday.

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I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking sleep app.

>>55766305
Why does it have to be snakes?

>>55766225
Pretty sure those skill effects don't carry over when you start a new week.

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All those nice colors for such a shitty Geodude.

Anyone started prepping for next week's Sunday meals yet?

Seems all my shiny profile pics are in now. Go nuts anon

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>>55766305
I've had it with these frogs. All 3 caught in the same week.

What's stopping me from waking up at 4am, and moving to a new Island, then going back 1 hour to 3am to eat last weeks Sunday dinner?

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>>55767824
Losing control of your life.

>>55767824
You lost the moment you started thinking about gaming a sleep app.

>>55767824
I don't know if that actually works or not, if you can cheese the meal times by changing the time on your phone versus the server time.

Behaviour like yours will make them clamp down on exploits, and make it so that it tracks each individual meal for each day as to not have 8 dinners in one week.

Also think about how this actually benefits you.
You're just adding maybe 20-60k or 40-120k strength to a week long effort maybe, when the focus should be the week-on-week gains from improving your teams and boosting your area bonuses.
You also deprive yourself of a final strength gain this week, that might give your Sunday night sleep the needed boost for a really high Drowsy Power for an actual good sleep style discovery.

I've mentioned a few times that it's always worth making meals on Sunday even if reaching the next strength rating is an impossibility, specifically because the Drowsy Power is more important to earning research EXP and dream shards through better sleep styles discovered.

Also this thread's on the way out, we need a new thread.
Someone update the OP post to warn about Raenonx. ( >>55759557 )
Also change "Inofficial" to "Unofficial". Inofficial ain't a word.

I'll make a new one as we get closer to page 9.

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Nature kinda sucks, but is it usable?

New.
>>55768826
>>55768826
>>55768826

Goddamn, the 5 minute wait period to post a new thread is annoying.