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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading.

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>>55664337

>Thread question:
Can the pokemon world ever be taken seriously as a fantasy/sci-fi setting? Or can it only ever be pointlessly edgy when trying to do so? Also I'm away from my computer and can't make a new Nurse Joy webm, sorry
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>>55732174
Just look at how this series tackles the surface level criticism of it's worldbuilding. Everything boils down to "it just works" or "actually the Pokemon like it". The series doesn't treat it's own setting seriously, and neither should you.
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I don't see why not, you can do either since the official lore is already a mess
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>>55732174
It can definitely be taken seriously, it just has to keep a whimsical/positive tone. For writers going darker, grim can be fine, but it really can just be in story beats. Balancing that isn't easy, which is why so many Pokemon writers struggle with it. As posters above have stated, the worldbuilding is so loose and shallow that a writer can fill out the world in an interesting way (with pinches of darkness). It just has to keep the soul of Pokemon.
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Write.
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>>55734505
My writing loicense expired...
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Have you finished your stories, anons?
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>>55734505
>>55735016
I wrote a little bit today. Jeez.
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>>55732363
The eating Pokémon thing is apparently something they want to do but its so half assed.
>"Oh Slowpoke regrow their tails."
>"Oh Klawf regrow their claws."
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>>55735057
Didn't Masuda say in an interview that everyone eats synthetic meat?
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>>55735057
Uhhh b-bros...he's gonna regrow his arms and head, right?
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Ok, so not necessarily fan work per say, but this is for fan work.

I presented this in another thread, but it got no response. and I think I wrote it right before Pokemon Day. and it related to Emmet and Ingo

Faller theories:

Ok so let’s get the obvious out of the way.

They could contract or worse spread disease, not unlike when the colonists brought smallpox to the Americas

Depending on where and when they were born, they wouldn’t recognize the local police as people who could help them, if they even realize they’re in danger to begin with. For example, do you think someone from the Gupta period would recognize Swedish police as someone who could help them or vice versa? I THINK NOT! Speaking of being from that period, you’re farther away from home than you could imagine in a region with skin tones you’d never see and they’re speaking a language you’d never hear while chest deep in snow when you’d probably never even see frost on your house otherwise.

And to top it off, your own language has long evolved into unrecognizable gibberish to your ears, and you struggle to adjust to your new environment. And that’s if you’re even speaking the right language to begin with. Some people have suffered head injuries and woke up speaking French when they'd never speak a lick of it, so don’t be surprised if you find someone who is clearly from the French Revolution era, and they wake up speaking pristine Punjabi.
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>>55735262
His arms, yes.

But he needs his head to do that.
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>>55735385
Now onto the amnesia aspect…I firmly believe that falling is EXTREMELY traumatic, putting being assaulted in every which way to shame.

That being said, being assaulted would be traumatic in itself, right?

What kind of trauma would a female faller been through previously?

Anyone?

Exactly. The effects of pre-existing trauma would still be there, or if a faller had been through martial arts training of any sort they would still be able to use them, like riding a bike. But no reasonable person would exploit trauma like that. Unless something else started the trickle before the dam bursts.

Anyway, your favorite foods now taste off or outright disgusting if it doesn’t make you sick.


As the memories start to return, you remember the little things, such as memories anyone would have, even if they are reconstructed. Such as what your parents did after picking up a velvet ant (may or may not be speaking from experience)

And then there are the warped memories.

Oh yes…I presented this in another thread long ago, and got a crying cat face, so I’m sticking with it.

But wait, Emmet and Ingo seem like they were raised in a healthy, well-structured environment. What kind of memories could be warped?

A petty little spat they had as ten-year-olds, that’s what. And it could be warped into a major fight as adults. (But common sense should kick in)

And in my OCs case, she is adept at swordsmanship, so any memory she could have of being hit could stem from blunt training.

Or, being scolded for taking a cookie right before dinner could spiral into being screamed at like you were in the army.

And the problem is that it could or could not mean you’re doing it right.

And forget about getting home, the second the first universe was born, there was already an infinite number based on where the atoms were placed. Never mind where a specific grain of sand is, or which direction a crack on the walls took. Or who went in the opposite direction.
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>>55732363
>The series doesn't treat it's own setting seriously, and neither should you
Just because they're lazy don't mean you shouldn't at least put in some effort yourself.

How do you come up with a clever and/or meaningful tittle for your fanfic?
also finally update my fic after six months
rentry mo4pb
rentry tqogipu3
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After Legends Arceus I don't think humans were created by Arceus nor descended from Pokémon, given how they acted and their level of technology it makes me think that they're either Fallers or from space
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>>55735753
>Why did arceus do nothing
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>>55735398
The term Faller seems to apply both to people who travel to different worlds in ultra space, and to people who travel through "space and time" like in PLA. Unless I'm mistaken, the only person we know who's been negatively affected by Falling is Ingo, and there's no reason to assume that his condition is universal to everyone who becomes a Faller. Maybe he just landed on his head or something.

Amnesia is a dumb hook for a main character. A story where the main focus is "character finding out who they used to be" usually becomes the author adding increasingly contrived skills and backstory to their OC because they think the audience cares about how cool and awesome they are. Writing a Faller is basically just writing isekai, and adding amnesia to that doesn't inherently improve things. If anything, I'd rather read a story about a character working towards finding a way back home and eventually making it. Like Back to the Future.
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>>55734505
I started writing and then halfway through chapter 2 I realized I could make it a not-pokemon story and have it be an original story so I stopped writing to consider this and then I started playing a new video game and I'm hook and I skipped sleep to keep playing it but still had to go to work so now I'm keeping myself alive by caffeine and I can see the veins pulsing in my eyes
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>>55735398
>falling is EXTREMELY traumatic
Why would you be traumatized over something you can't remember at all? A bit depressed maybe, knowing that you potentially can't remember your close friends/family, and possibly a bit of existential dread, but not traumatized.
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>>55732174
Okay so what's the verdict on Born of Caution? Is it actually good?
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>>55737354
If you want to fuck a ninetales, yes.
If you are a fan of the Dao of Nutrition, yes.
If you are neither of these things, i dunno lol. The grammar's not bad, I can't think of any glaring plot holes, and it still receives updates with no sign of stopping anytime soon. By fanfic standards that's good, I guess.
It still pales in comparison to raw kino like 'Nemona Farting Stupid Pooty Adventures' by Yoshizilla-Rhedosaurus, but we can't expect every author to have the divine gift for writing.
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>>55737470
>The grammar's not bad
IS THIS HOW LOW THE BAR IS??
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>>55737775
Bar? There is no bar in the good year 2024. All we need are top 10 family guy moments compilations and train dodger videos playing in sidebars while we consoom
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>>55736117
The OC in question is actually the rival character.
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>>55737354
It's above average, but it's not good.
How are people invested in the fox relationship when the writer skipped like 70% of it in chapter 1 in a single weird first meeting interaction?
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Should I just make a burner google docs account or should I make a pastebin and post if I want critique? I'd like to become a better writer.
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>>55738587
If you’re going to make a google doc use a throwaway email.
Pastebin works if you don’t care about preservation. If you want to have all your work in one place I recommend rentry.
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>>55735016
I just finished round 1 of revision for my next chapter in my Pearlshipping Action/Adventure fic.

The chapter was actually going to be another 7-10K longer than that but I figured no one wants to read a chapter that long if it isn't like some big action sequence towards the climax anyway and it's been 3 months since I managed to put out the last chapter so I don't want the fic to be not updated for any longer than I have to. So I found a good cutoff point.

Will probably finish round 2 and have it uploaded by Friday
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>>55738610

Got it. I went ahead and made a burner account - I needed one anyway.

I was in these threads years ago, but for after I listened to people who didn't have my best interests in heart, I quit writing. I rediscovered it recently after evaluating what I actually enjoy.

Anyway, I have "something" finished. Be as nice or harsh as you like, or if you have any questions feel free to ask. It's smut.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z0gBerCaWk7gv27D1kg9u6ztCFBO--VqlLqjjkG1QI4/edit?usp=sharing
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>>55737354
7 out of 10 as now, later maybe it'll drop
>>55738295
Man it is 250k words, if you like me mostly skips other plots than with extras there is solid 40-60k about foxfuckery.
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>>55738587
>>55738610
Never use Pastebin for anything, they are trash garbage with no respect for their userbase.
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>>55739001
Your writing sucks. It's really weird and awkward and we can tell you're trying to imitate better writers but you'll never be able to because fundamentally, you're a freak that will never create be capable of creating beautiful art, and if we're being honest with ourselves, also failed as a human being. There's no chance of you ever improving, so you might as well just kill yourself and get it over with.

You should quit writing btw.
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Man, I ain't ever direct linking you people to my shit.
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>>55739546
If your fic doesn't have pokephilia or overpowered isekai MC, don't even fucking bother.
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>>55739581
Btw unironically this cause for everything else I better read usual literature
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>>55739581
>>55739605
Don't forget the Aura powers
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>>55739546
Come on buddy, don't be like that. :)
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>>55739313
>create be capable
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>>55740797
I'm not your buddy, pal.
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>>55739313
Sounds like you didn’t read it and just wanted to cope about the AI Rosa.
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>>55736698
>Why would you be traumatized over something you can't remember at all?

When something is truely traumatic, our brains block it out. So i would imagine falling like that would send thw brain into overdrive and block out your whole life you lived before
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So, did we ever reach a consensus about guns?
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>>55743742
A Weedle's poison sting >>> IBM
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>>55743742
An airsoft pellet can one shot a Steelix through the eye, but anti material rounds will merely bounce off a Bidoof's hide.
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>>55743742
>Mortal Threat to normal people and newbie trainers
>Dangerous to above average trainers
>A bother to top tier trainers, they can be killed by bullets but their reflexes are ridiculous enough to dodge them
>Irrelevant to Dragon Clan members, Psychics, fighting type specialists and Aurafags
Beating the shit out of someone is probably easier with some stick than a gun, in almost every canon (despite what Masuda says) they're shown as super human

Or that's what I do at least, they have fucking magic and technology out of Final Fantasy SO why try to play by "real world" rules?
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>>55744664
They probably view regular ass guns as antiques since Pokémon Humans got region destroying lasers, giant mechs and Pokémon enhanced by or created through technology like Genesect and Porygon.
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CHADmans > pokeshits
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>>55744915
The ultimate weapon does give me a goofy idea of "infinite energy bullets" but that probably wouldn't work lol
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>>55745182
Why the fuck no? You just need to add something like charging time to make it work, like the guns in Mass Effect 1
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>>55745205
You know what you're right why the fuck not
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>>55745156
How would Pokemon feel about being ordered to attack their Gods by their trainers?
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>>55743742
Trying to explain why/how they don't exist or don't work is worse than just leaving it unsaid and ignoring them. It's better to rely on the willing suspension of disbelief and just never mention them.

Otherwise, they exist and they work and they can kill most pokemon (exception being the ones made of metal, solid stone, gas, etc) but they're illegal for civilians and are very rarely seem/used except by the most hardcore of organized crime, so they basically don't show up in the story.
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>>55745376
Such a boring answer, almost like someone from Spacebattles would say but fair enough I guess. Not every story needs to go batshit insane
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>>55743742
I don't understand the controversy about guns in Pokemon. Pokemon regularly deliver and receive the same amount of force as high caliber sniper rounds, Flamethrower and chemical attacks are used all the time, even psionics and voodoo are utilize yet people consider this a harmless recreational sport. Guns would be viable as a small source of damage maybe, but it wouldn't make a human a one man army slaughtering fully evolved pokemon by the dozens per mag.

The real question is whether guns are worthwhile enough to justify the cost, and whether an industry behind them can support itself. We're still at the stage in life where rifle rounds don't cleave through buildings casually, which is what you'd need to hurt many Pokemon, and that's after two world wars and supergiant military industrial complexes constantly pushing things forward(although who know what they have behind closed doors).

Given this, I doubt the Pokemon world that we know would end up developing guns well enough that they would be significantly powerful, and without a massive industry behind them they wouldn't be common either. With so few producers a criminal would have less options to purchase a firearm and ammo, which would make them more vulnerable to investigation or stings than someone who just used a pokemon.

A lot of things would need to be changed to support a world where gunslinging is common, and the guns themselves would need to be wildly different than the ones we use in our world. We'd need guns that use Fire Stones to spray streams of fire, or Lightning Stone-fueled arc throwers.

tl;dr
Where was Aragorn's tax policy?
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>>55744664
>A bother to top tier trainers, they can be killed by bullets but their reflexes are ridiculous enough to dodge them
nope, that makes no sense at all. If they can dodge then it's irrelevant
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>>55745451
>I don't understand the controversy about guns in Pokemon. Pokemon regularly deliver and receive the same amount of force as high caliber sniper rounds,
There are people who actually think a pokemon capable of those things would die to 9mm like a person despite actual animals being able to shrug off bullets in some cases.
Some people actually think Steelix would die to regular gun wounds, so basically retards who can't comprehend basic shit.
When it comes to humans, it's a matter of preference for fanfic. Pokemon? No way.
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>>55745504
Nah, they can't tank them so it would be like pic related but with a stronger basis beyond "lol, she's predicting them and dodging"
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>>55745516
If you had the physical strength to move your body that quick then you'd have the defenses unless you're purposefully making a scenario where people can "move fast but not defend for some reason" in order to be retarded
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I write a lot of stuff for another fanbase (won't say which one for now) and I have an idea for a pokemon fanfic that I really wanna write down the line. I have an Ao3 account that I put all my stuff on. Where can I post links to any potential pokemon fanfics? I usually just put it on the relevant 4chan general but I wouldn't know where to put it for a pokemon one.
I'm not much of a Pokemon person. I haven't really played beyond gen three and I'm a diehard gen two guy. So the story I have in mind would take place in Johto/Kanto, since that's what I have for a reference.
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>>55745427
Questions about background details and worldbuilding shouldn't be interesting. The best kind of world building is a short, simple, logical answer. Making every little detail a masterclass in bombastic intrigue is the narrative equivalent of dumping your entire spice cabinet into the soup at once. Save the interesting details for the important plot points.

If yout story is ABOUT guns, then go ahead and invent a fun and creative twist on how they do (or don't?) work in the world and on pokemon. But don't try to add that into your story about Steve looking for his missing father.
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>>55745567
>But don't try to add that into your story about Steve looking for his missing father.
That sounds Kino tho
>My father used to work for the Interpol but he went MIA according to his partner
>So I'm going to look for him and find him no matter what, fortunately he left a mysterious Pokéball...and a gun
>Now together we must unveil the truth
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>>55745563
Just the links,
You 'can' post them here, but that's not what you're asking
Typically people just post their story to multiple fanfic sites and if they do a lot of content or a consistently updated story they might have a discord where they post all their fic links. Usually you see something like
>hey guys new update
>link 1, link 2, link 3
all of them going to the same chapter on different sites for people who want that.

From what I've seen it's a good idea to write a story that can be posted on SpaceBattles for better or worse, unless you're willing to drop that audience for nsfw stuff. I heard there's a nsfw spacebattles but I never hear of people posting stuff on it
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>>55745514
A moose alone would fuck you up through a hail of bullets.. a stantler would unironically be tougher than that.
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>>55745594
what makes spacebattles special like that?
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>>55745635
A lot of people talk there from what I can tell. Forums are easy to converse in over time. Royalroad has the issue of their weird reply chain chat at the bottom of each chapter that doesn't work as well and less people generally converse there for whatever reason.
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>>55745594
>I heard there's a nsfw spacebattles but I never hear of people posting stuff on it
QuestionableQuesting is the degenerate splinter site of SB, very lax on content rules (everything except modern politics is allowed) but the SFW section of that site is a ghost town. I wouldn't bother with it if your story is entirely SFW.
>>55745635
I assume it's the thread format of those sites making "discussion" easier than FF or AO3. Also a pretty high reader count.
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>look at tags
>female lead
into the trash it goes
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>>55745588
>finally corner your adversary
>draw your firearm and order him to freeze
>he's never seen or heard of guns before
>he doesn't even realize you're threatening him
>you explain if he doesn't surrender you'll shoot
>he doesn't know what that means
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>>55745594
I'm more than willing to post things here. And since I already have a decent sized audience I think the algo will help me a bit too.
I don't want to post on forums because I'm wary of being sucked into any community at large. Just from observation, I notice the more integrated an artist gets into any given fandom/community, the more likely they'll get stupid, lose sight of what's important and get involved in dumb drama. I'm seeing it happen right now with another writer I liked. It's sad.
I understand a writer wants to have people talk endlessly about their stuff. That would be nice, but mainly I'm just trying to find an audience to consume the new stuff that isn't for my normal viewers. I've never been on /vp/ before so I don't know the culture outside of the basic 4chan shitposting, if I throw a link here, say I got a story update, will anons here like that?
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>>55746046
>And since I already have a decent sized audience I think the algo will help me a bit too.
honestly you just sound like bullshit. Everything you said from there is bullshit. Either make content and grow, or don't and die like everyone else.
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I've been really stressed out from exams the past few days, so I made a Rika fic with yuri as a coping mechanism.

Maybe you guys would enjoy it too, it's not very long. I made it to be soothing to the soul.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/55246978/

Love from Kazakhstan.
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>>55735057
I always wondered about that. Where do they get their meat from? There's things like hamburgers in Pokemon, that would imply that it's industrial but how do they choose the Pokemon for it?
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>>55746189
Yooo what the fuc
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>>55746189
This feels like cuckolding on like 3 different layers. I hate it and fuck you for making it, but I appreciate what you did.
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>>55746189
that's pretty hot actually
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>>55746189
At least someones writing, good work.
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>>55746259
Layer 1: Rika herself? Idk
Layer 2: The FeMC seeing her
Layer 3: The reader seeing it all go down.
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>>55745747
you're missing out on an epic story about a girl with a single mom who's a lesbian and marries a woman that is pushed onto them by their bisexual 6 year old daughter who then proceeds to convince their starter pokemon that actually they're trans and demolishes a bigot white male who has more experience than them thus either teaching him his ways or somehow resulting in him losing all his pokemon and getting locked up in jail forever but not after getting a bloody nose from being punched by the 6 year old
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>>55745451
>>55745504

Threadly reminder that a human can beat a Marowack to death with nothing but a short rap sheet and a stick. Guns are also still carried and used by members of the police force, even while they have access to pokemon of their own.

Pokemon (save for the obvious steel/rock/ghost) aren't immune to bullets, there just aren't many weapons around when the people have more focused tools and methods to fight them. Why use a gun when you can buy a repel or a pokeball at the local shop? The route of making firearms uncommon or even absent from the concern of the majority is a much better way of going about it than 'Hur Dur this lowly rattata can tank a 30mm cannon round because it doesn't die when eevee tackles it'.

>>55745376
This is the way to do it, why even include guns if they do jackshit?
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>>55746189
>get stressed
>"oh, I know, I'll just abuse women to unwind"!
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>>55746189
Is it just me, or do I think I know you? There's a writer who also makes S/V fics and he uses a similar writing and paging style.
Is this an alt?

>>55747031
Sometimes that's all you need, honestly. It was a bit too much for me but seeing hard SadoMaso stuff paired with lovey-dovey things is an interesting change of pace.
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>>55746990
Where was the murder method of Marowak revealed?
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>>55748102
Wasn't it a stick in Origins?
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why is he trying to so hard to be discount brand slugfucker
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https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-new-normal-a-pok%C3%A9mon-elite-4-si.1076757/page-112?post=100589080#post-100589080

I kneel.
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>>55748916
He forgot to mention trainer vicky retroactively updating the protags metaknowledge. That was cheap as fuck.
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>>55746990
>Gunfag seething because his peashooter can't kill a pokemon that regularly survived literal meteors
The baton killed Marowack because human melee > human ranged. Stupid 'umies got a special attack of 0
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>>55749226
Even at its worst Vicky is not even a tenth as wish fulfillment as Hard Enough or New Normal.
It may have issues, but that's not one.
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>>55748916
>>55748916
>But the masturbatory feel of the main character reminds me off The Brock SI from hard enough(another fanfic) and his presence warps the world around him into feeling unrealistic despite the splendid world and characters.
Is it really that bad? The only thing I know is that the author has a big hateboner for Steven
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>>55749226
I love overpowered isekai MC stories but even I get the wind taken out of my sails with meta rewrite shit like that.
It's like someone overhearing their DM talk with another DM about a vampire encounter and, wouldn't you know it, their character is carrying stakes 'for camping' and decided to wrap several bundles of garlic around their neck 'for a quick snack' next session.
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>isekai protagonist exploring an unknown region and seeing unfamiliar pokemon for the first time
>oh no, they're terrible
>crisis threatens the region
>trying to take it seriously but can only see it through the lens of bad writing
This is what you miss out on by filling your protagonist's head with bulbapedia
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>>55750162
Anon what the fuck are you talking about.
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I fucking love fiction so much bros. I love literature, it's taught me so many things about this world, how big it is, how arrogant and childish I can be, and still am to this day. It's changed me, humbled me, impacted my life in ways I can't begin to describe, and I want to give back. I need to do my part to keep the stream of fiction and stories and imagination flowing. I love humanity, and beauty, and our story-telling and the mystical, fantastical worlds we weave from our dreams, and even if my writing sucks I will never ever stop considering myself a writer, and striving to write better stories that can move or make an impression on someone.
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>>55750315
Unironically based, fuck shitty realism
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>get isekai'd to the most peaceful world filled with friendship and adventures
>somehow have crippling depression over it
>for some reason want to go back
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>>55750369
I feel like both of these posts are talking about the same fic
>>55750315
I kneel, fanfiction Buddha
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>>55750369
But what about my gay lover and our adopted son(please don't look into the implications behind these please i swear there are none noooo my mc is a 36 year old adult male with a neckbeard and he hangs out with teenagers but i dont mean anything by it promise promise)
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>>55750369
The cultural vortex of natural-born mascots narrows the goon material unacceptably, and my investment in shitposting is immesurable. I don't really want to go back, I just want access to the same Internet.
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>>55750369
I too would choose to be a whiny little faggot even in my blatant self insert power fantasies.
>>55750535
Why not introduce shitposting to the Pokémon world?
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>>55750635
Problem is that that kind of person is literally unable to distinguish fantasy from reality. Fiction from reality. 2D from 3D. Drawings from actual people.
Honestly, it's utterly insane how even on their wildest craziest fantasies they're unable to set things apart. How even on a "You can be ANYTHING" they still decide to be as they are and bring the same bullshit, problems and issues they've got in their real life.
Genuinely insane people.
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>>55750646
And, as cringe as I think shameless wish-fulfillment power fantasy stuff can be, the likes of Hard Enough and New Normal as mentioned up there, I can in some way admire how shamelessly they embrace it and go for it and plain and simply let their imagination go wild so they can enjoy their fantasy as the fantasy it is.
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>>55750369
>for some reason want to go back
I mean, if they were smart or knew shit beyond muh meta they could make the SI paranoid about an Ultrabeast fucking up the world because of him or getting drafted by the Interpol so them wanting to go back would make sense.

There's also making them realize that their SI's body is basically made of glass since they aren't natives
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>>55750646
Bringing over that bullshit can work, as long as the character changes in response to the new world they find themselves in. How much the character changes the world around them is up to the author to decide, but a static MC that gains nothing but a wish-fulfilment team and (for some reason always picked from the same three) anime girlfriend for cheap appeasement is just boring. There needs to be growth, or even a fall like in edgefics because those authors at least seem to be having fun instead of just moping.

Hard Enough is tolerable, New Normal is full of inane shit, and the worst thing is that they spawn coatriders like: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14245448/1/The-All-Mighty-Earth-Pokemon-SI
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>>55750684
If you're playing the unnatural physique thing you might as well bullshit something like the natural Qi of the world suffusing their body via living.
>>55750646
I can sorta understand it if it's a teenage author venting their angst. Still cringe, but I won't be surprised seeing it.
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>>55750759
>Inspired by...
Into the trash it goes.
I swear even Louise Summons... ZnT fics from back there were less derivative than Pokemon fics are nowadays.
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>>55750759
That must be some massive slop to the point even the usual consoomers aren't bothering with it because I'd never heard of it until now.
Anything spicy on it?
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>>55750770
1. MC's name is 'Asher Blight' and is explicitly an edgy arsehole teen.
2. Sabrina love interest (of course). This time she's like 13-16 though and so it involves the mind of a 20+ year manchild in the body of a teen lusting for a child. Readers aren't happy about that one.
3. That whole 'disconnected' region thing that these authors so love, only Kanto and Johto seem to have contact with eachother.
4. Readers got so sick of the twat MC that the author had my man Giovanni murk half his team to try the 'muh dead team members' sympathy trick.
5. Post team death, MC becomes the best gym leader in Kanto with Lance sucking him off. Is sent as a representative to newly-contacted Sinnoh to show them 'How great Kanto's young trainers are'.
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>>55750764
>Louise Summons... ZnT
I honestly forgot about that shit, like almost everything in FF it was full of Naruto and Fate crossovers with Shirou that totally wasn't Archer but for some reason acted the same

God, was there even a decent Pokémon crossover? I remember one where she summons TR and they went around stomping everything on their path because their natural nemesis weren't around to stop them
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>>55750829
There's a Louise Reverse Isekai one that's been going for years and years.
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/outsiders-pok%C3%A9mon-familiar-of-zero-crossover-reverse-summon.621934/
But besides this one and the one you mentioned I cannot remember any others. Surely there's a few more but none that was notable.
Honestly, Pokemon is not very good crossover material for ZnT like that so I'm not surprised there's not any others.
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>>55750821
Readers usually like mc's like this, just how much of a twat was he exactly?
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>>55751296
Well, he does refer to people watching a pokemon battle as NPCs at best and background characters at worst in his intro chapter, so that soured it for a few. Mostly it's your standard 'I'm the main character' energy while trying too hard to be the edgy badboy, of course being hypercompetent with a pokemon team that steamrolls. MC completely lacks any charm to balance out the cuntiness, so its not even fun edge and probably why a lot of commenters don't like him.

First chapter lays out the character pretty well, and it doesn't take many paragraphs to see why he's a dickhead.
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>>55743742
>>55745451
>I don't understand the controversy about guns in Pokemon. Pokemon regularly deliver and receive the same amount of force as high caliber sniper rounds, Flamethrower and chemical attacks are used all the time, even psionics and voodoo are utilize yet people consider this a harmless recreational sport. Guns would be viable as a small source of damage maybe, but it wouldn't make a human a one man army slaughtering fully evolved pokemon by the dozens per mag.
Guns break the immersion of Pokemon. The world is supposed to be a cartoony world where any human can just grab a Pokeball, catch a random Pokemon and then be able to train that random mon to fight Legendaries.

10-year-olds will never realistically be able to survive and travel through an entire country. They would run out of food, run out of money, get homesick, etc. But that realism doesn't matter in the Pokemon world because it's a fictional world where you can catch a fucking candle and ice cream cone from the same region.

>But season 1

Every single season from then on from the OG never had that shit to keep up the immersion and standards of how the Pokemon world should be presented. Even in Pokemon Adventures, where they show blood, keep everything as light as possible and only use a bit of dark elements when appropriate.

The worst crime that would ever happen to an average Trainer would be getting your shit stolen. Even murdering a single person makes you the complete scum of the Earth that needs to be defeated ASAP.

Guns completely break this immersion. They don't fit at all with the Pokemon image, they look so out of place next to Pokeballs, potions and a Pokedex. If you want to have guns in your fic then at least make them cartoony so that they fit with the world. Have them fire out web or elemental bullets replicating Pokemon moves to keep the immersion up.
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>>55734505
I really want to write some spicy humanxpkm text but I suffer a severe ESL and my story will just come off awful and awkward
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>>55750911
I didn't like this, Arceus is a petty asshole when it wants to be so asking her to prove herself in a Pokémon journey is weird and there's also the "do not summon my children" while not doing anything about the Ultra Wormholes that do the same

And then there's fucking Saito, I don't even know why they used him instead of, I don't know, Calem or something when he is basically an OC
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>>55734505
I fear that if I write what I want to write I'll be labeled as a furry.
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>>55751870
it is romance, isn't it? if its the pokemon setting, what else is out there to write about?
is either guy/critter, dude/hebe, or lad/hag
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>>55751908
>if its the pokemon setting, what else is out there to write about?
Betrayal kino
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>>55751908
It's not. It's isekai into a pokemon and that pokemon is eevee.
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>>55751942
I'll read it if he/she fucks another Pokemon and impregnates/gets impregnated by them.
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>>55751734
Which pokemon?
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>>55752065
primarina and garchomp
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>>55752103
So it's a PMD thing, then?
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>>55751734
Get an editor.
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>>55751942
Well, you know the saying:

"When in Rome..."
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>>55752154
no, just named you the ones I want to use most and have a storyline more or less defined
not into PMD or polygamy
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>>55750646
Anon, you cannot write about things you haven't, stupid could never adequately write smart character, mentally ill could never write normal person, childish person and immature would neber write level-headed adult.
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>>55752267
Female Garchomp, then?
Yeah, get writing.
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>>55752291
she is an underrated girl in these kind of stories
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>>55750821
>5. Post team death, MC becomes the best gym leader in Kanto with Lance sucking him off. Is sent as a representative to newly-contacted Sinnoh to show them 'How great Kanto's young trainers are'
Bets on it becoming harem with obviously Cynthia being the Sinnohan representative?
Man, I swear there's not a single fanfic out there where Cynthia is not used for waifu pandering or to use her as a prop to show how cool OC/SI-sama is.
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>>55753123
>or to use her as a prop to show how cool OC/SI-sama is.
All champions are merely stones upon the path that Osii Serufinserto walks upon. Their fate as just another step in his journey was sealed the instant they forsook the Dao of Nutrition.
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>>55753123
New Normal did both of those lol.
>>55753178
It's always Cynthia, though.
For as much, say, Leonwank there is, you rarely if ever see him being put on that position. Then again, the real reason for that is that the great majority of fics are set on the first four regions so it's either gonna be Lance, Steven or Cynthia who gets put in those positions.
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>>55753123
>strong female trainers are trophies to be collected and shown off by the male equivalent of a gold digger.
It really do be like that.
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>>55752240
>>55752034
Really? It will also include Aura training.
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>>55753498
I'm going to kill you.
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>>55753531
What's the matter? Can't handle a pokemon breaking through to to the golden core realm with their peerless unshakable aura foundation?
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How would you rank the regions in terms of which ones are the most and least popular to write for?
Obviously Kanto is number 1 but I'm curious as to what's everyone's perception about the rest of the ranking looks like.
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>>55753560
Kanto
Johto
Sinnoh
Hoenn
Unova
I have no clue past this point.
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>>55753571
Sinnoh feels more popular than johto to me.
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>>55753746
Johto appears more than Sinnoh, but not as a standalone. Or as the "main" region. If it appears, it's always a side-piece to Kanto which is the real main region the story is set on.
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>>55753746
Basically this >>55753752
Since both regions share the same league its not uncommon for a story to have the characters travel both regions to challenge it.
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omgwtf
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What the hell is aura?
Why is every SI a master of it ?
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>>55753123
Define waifu pandering. Also, is waifu pandering necessarily a negative if that's like the whole premise of the story?
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>>55754694
Whatever it is, it's too common in stories and we'll soon approach the point of the dread aura hogwarts.
We need partial aurafag death so it can return to the mystique it's supposed to have.
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>>55754694
>bullshit that the ashime made up to shill the shilldog harder
>apparently now being used in fanwriting to make the protagonist cooler than everybody else
Time really is a flat circle.
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How did the swordsman from the veilstone myth terrorize so many Pokémon with a regular ass sword? It aways perplexed me.
Also, would it be safe to artificially create a Honedge via pic related? What if it was a voluntary human sacrifice?
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>>55754851
The Pokémon lore is full of contradictions, the past was supposed to be really bloody even in the games but then Masuda changed it.

Legends Arceus itself makes that redundant since they made the Pokémon monsters that would attack anything given the opportunity so going by that, that swordsman was defending himself
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alright, I've been trying to write a fic but I can't decide. I'm a 30 y/0 boomer despite my hopes of avoiding this fate a few years ago...

I can't bring myself to write an old ass dude because I've basically learned you don't really grow after a certain point, you just get older and hurt more when you do stupid shit...

So... 15 years old regression... danger territory for anything relationshipwise. 18 years old, a bit better but kinda obvious. 10-12 years old... hehe... actually the easy answer is 'fuck pokemon' since age isn't an issue for them. I want to write an isekai adventure, but I am not writing some "hurr I'm so old and miserable, wow pokemon, time to throw up because DEPRESSION."

Also the other harsh question. Anime pokemon logic, or do something different? Aura for a select few? Aura for elites like in The Most Homo Evil Trainer? Aura for everyone like in a handful of novels where all trainers are cultivators?

Love some advise. I wanted to write Hoenn, but Borne of Cuntion has be wondering if it would be suffer or benefit from another major story addressing the same content.
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>>55755018
If you're writing about isekai adventure just write about your favorite things, man.
Think of the idealized pokemon world you'd like to be isekai'ed to.
Think of the team you'd make and build in such a case.
Give Aura as much or as little as you wanna.
Write your thing, give it your own personal spin, don't be a "inspired by..." spacebattles wannabe faggot.
Write your self-insert, write your wish fulfillment, just remember that it must also be entertaining, must be a story.
What do YOU wanna write about? Don't ask us, ask yourself. Tell us about it.
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>>55755054
I want a guy who enters into a world of trainers who cultivate semi-super powers with sorta abilities, but uses his expertise to outdo others and to deal with poverty and stuff to succeed to eventually become an elite.

Pokeworlds with aura cultivation are a bit much, but The Most Evil trainer seemed to have a decent balance, but maybe a bit not enough for the trainer.

I'm thinking something closer to the anime, but with a cultivation system of aura that isn't so blatant that the average person is like "This guy is a 4th stage of the formation establishment realm!". Like people and pokemon make themselves stronger and trainers are stronger than normal, but pokemon are still the 'skills and weapons' being used.

But is the normal league regular or should I have full out Ash show up? Is he a veteran or sudo-vet after 2-3 leagues now that he's ready to rock?

Being more ambiguous would let normal characters make more sense.

Take Hoenn... How does Ash, someone who was in 2 conferences compete? If he's some aura god then he would wipe the board, unless there's something more to it. Especially with new pokemon.

I actually love Borne of Caution, but also I love Hoenn more, so I wouldn't mind writing about the region... Do I go full cultivation, or soft magic, focus only on how the battles are? It is complex...
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>>55755079
Since you seem to like cultivation stuff, read Twisted Garden. May give you some insight.
>Do I go full cultivation, or soft magic, focus only on how the battles are? It is complex...
Do you want your fic to be "successful and popular" or do you only care about writing your own shit for your own sake?
People love powerlevels or systems but how they're executed is key in that regard.
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>>55755018
If age bothers you just Is*kai your younger self. You will likely not even remember most of what you were back then so you can quickly develop that into an OC with incomplete knowledge and plenty of things to still journey and discover about the world.
>Anime pokemon logic, or do something different?
A mix of everything. But not too much game logic! Never played competitive is a good example of how it cheapens raising Pokémon by turning it into a smogon team builder. Plus, turn based battles, levels, bst's all sap the soul out of things. Progress should occur but avoid making the exact value of a pokémon a numbers game where the best calculator wins. A shitmon should be able to become something respectable with hard work.
>Aura for everyone like in a handful of novels where all trainers are cultivators?
That cultivation thing is a thread meme. I shitpost about it myself but wouldn't recommend actually doing this unless you do focus heavily on making a Pokémon based cultivation system like that one Erika story I've heard of but never read.
I dont use (human) aura myself but if I did, I would make it a really obscure power system that would take a great deal of effort to learn about and master, something that's in decline since times are far more peaceful for both people and pokémon on the civilizational level.
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Nigga, if you want to add secret powers of any kind read urban fantasy to get an idea
>HxH
>Fate
>Bleach
Or any martial arts series where they use ki like Kenichi, Ranma or stuff like The Breaker if you want
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>>55755246
>drops pokeball
>pokeball seaps into the ground
>"bankai"
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>>55754694
To be fair, imagine if you were dropped into a high-fantasy world, one which you knew had magic in it and some of the underlying principles behind how that magic worked, and yet none of the natives had taken advantage of it. Bet your ass you're gonna go out of your way to master it.

The problem lies in these SI's unlocking aura powers that aren't exactly canon and somehow going toe-to-toe with psuedo legends despite having a human's body and soul when in actuality aura has only been shown to provide humans a support build at best.
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>>55755018
>you don't really grow after a certain point
Even though that's simply not true, especially in the context of throwing said oldies into a fantasy world which would inevitably change them in many ways, what's wrong with that?
45 year old boomer's isekai adventure sounds funny, whether he's a stubborn old fogey or not.
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>>55739581
Even if does, if any single person in the discord doesn’t like it, you should kys
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>>55755640
That ACK'd itself a while ago.
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>>55755246
>Holds up pokeball
>Blue light comes out of it and envelops you
>"POKEMON MEISTER VOLLSTÄNDIG!"
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Aura should only be used if its used in one of the following situations:
>Medieval fic
>aura battle tournament
>Aura Guardian who isn't competing in gyms/trying to be the best but is simply a person travelling and helping people
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>>55755842
>Aura Guardian who isn't competing in gyms/trying to be the best but is simply a person travelling and helping people
makes sense. aurafags are all clearly reclusive nerds or hermits. thats why no gym leader, e4 or champion uses it despite the magical pokemon training prowess fanfics give it.
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>>55755842
>Aura Guardian who isn't competing in gyms/trying to be the best but is simply a person travelling and helping people
this plus its love interest is a lucario/mienshao
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What are your opinions on regional forms?
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>>55755842
>>Aura Guardian who isn't competing in gyms/trying to be the best but is simply a person travelling and helping people
That's probably the way I would give Aura to Ash in a story, using his EoS self who picked things along the way because by that time he realized that trying to be the best wasn't his real goal

And yes, his ultimate form would be a Vollständig rip off because why the hell no
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>>55755842
Aura should be used to explain literally everything.
STAB/type energy? Aura.
Trade evos? Aura.
Power of friendship? Aura.
Gen 1-3 badge boosts? Aura.
Shrinking? Aura.
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>>55755018
>I'm a 30
Hey, someone with some life experience who can use that to create a fic that's got something to say from a fresh perspective.
>I want to write an isekai adventure
Or not.

And you seem to be worrying about shit that might not even be relevant to the story. And asking about the declared age of your ego's vessel, you must not have yet even imagined anything and therefore haven't seen the age of the vessel.

You have placed your cart before your horse.

Starting from scratch: You say that you want to write a Pokemon fanfic. OK: How do you want your reader to feel after reading it?
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>>55756385
Neat if I like them
Cringe if I dont like them
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read
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>>55757811
for me, it's blued
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>>55759219
I will refuse to read any story which revolves around the romance of two (or more) official characters
either oc male x female cast or two oc (one of them needs to be a pokemon)
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>>55759253
I don't read romance at all unless its a crossover, but why tho?
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reminder to add some soul to your setting
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>>55752291
>>55752639
Impregnate her sand womb
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>>55759853
Imagine the Rough Skin

Imagine the cloacca

Imagine the rough skin of her dragon cloacca filing your pathetic human penis down to a pencil's width
while Cynthia watches
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>>55760663
Shaun can you recommend me some good isekai fics? Aura and cultivation would be preferred
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>>55760663
imagine being shaun's parents.

the shame.
the disappointment

did they kill themselves. dont worry you can blame a japanese video game character.
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>>55760692
Aldith? Who is that?
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>>55760692
I printed out all 200 pages and shipped them to your address, but the cargo ship was seized by Somali pirates. Please forgive me, I have brought great shame to my family for not using Fedex air freight
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>pokemon are mindless animals with no ability to plan or think ahead, complexity is beyond them! They deserve to eat from dog bowls!
>e-except for this bad guy's Psychic type, who is 9999 IQ and can masterfully manipulate the stock market and mind control hordes of pokemon while expertly rewriting people's minds into worshipping the team's leader, a-and his ghost pokemon are expert assassins capable of circumventing top-of-the-line security and even possessing people and pretending to be them so well that even their lover doesn't notice anything off!
Make up your mind grimderp edgefuckers. Are pokemon as dumb as animals or are they all James Bond masterminds with the power of demigods?
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>>55761162
Yeah anon I too despise how OP psychic types are written in a lot of fics, and you left out 'able to teleport large groups across the globe' in your rant.

That said, nothing wrong with having some pokemon act a little more human than others. A wild rattata is probably going to have less understanding of human speech and mannerisms than one who's been kept as a pampered house pet all their life. Never understood the need to make pokemon as dumb as animals, their heightened sapience was the primary draw I thought.
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>>55761785
>>55761162
Imho I'll describe mons like "less nature, more nurture". Unlike real species, their mental capabilities have a much wider diapason, while everything is much more equal between species. And also while in base settings they do not particularly strive for development beyond battles and simple needs, when exposed to a suitable environment, they can very quickly catch up and overtake people? like boulder laying on top of a moutain where with some push you could quickly accelerate it.
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>>55761162
I agree this is stupid but it's also the logical consequence of what we see and what gets said in official lore. The mainline games treat all your pokemon like pets, for the most part, even the ones whose dex entries in the SAME GAME says they should be far more intelligent than any human.
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>>55759358
so I self-insert as ash or leon? hard pass
although some male mc could be acceptable given they are the characters you control in the main games
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>>55761785
>>55761162
Oh man, I fucking hate psychic types on fanfics too.
I've seen a few where they go muh telepathy and have entire conversations in the middle of battle but not even a second has passed IRL.
Extremely dumb-ass shit.
Another big dumb is when they use them as teleporting fodder over cities, countries and even continents.
And there's always the fucking mind reading that's always super edgy forbidden illegal because for some reason mind reading just mind breaks people because edge factor.
And they don't even go only tip top Champion-tier psychic Pokemon can do that. No. You can a Munna off the side of the road and it comes pre-packaged and able to do all that and more.
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>I've seen a few where they go muh telepathy and have entire conversations in the middle of battle but not even a second has passed IRL.
remind me of that braixen fanfic where the have like 8k words on telepathic chatter in middle of a fight... without the fight starting up
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Fae faggotry is 1000x more obnoxious and shit than ESP faggotry.
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>>55763651
Besides Touch Skies I genuinely cannot remember any other fic that goes deep and hard into fairywank.
The closest I can think of is wooooooooooooooow fairy is undiscovered for SI-kun wank and the mean dragon clan fags don't want fairy to be revealed because it would threaten their position u mad dragonfags.
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>>55763003
>ash or leon
Romance isn't those two is ridiculous, that I do agree, Leon is probably easier tho so for romance to work with fucking Ash you would need someone as autistic as him
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>>55763651
how interesting would be to make the fae's bodies sizzle when making contact with iron?
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>>55763678
You say it like if people write Ash "realistically" in those fics and not as some super gigachad with an harem of every companion girl and one out of every third character of the day girl too.
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>>55763690
At that point it's a self insert wearing a skinsuit instead of Ash.
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>>55763651
Scaly clawed hands typed this post
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>>55755774
There was a 2nd one back in 2023. Is it dead too?
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>>55765220
No, it's still around
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>>55764010
Well it depends on whether you characterzie Ash accurately to the show

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13097998/1/To-Catch-A-Rainbow-Beautifly

There was this story that paired Ash up with Giselle (who Ash did like canonically) and most of the dialogue was taken straight out of the 4kids dub so you can't really say that this is a "self insert" if it's, well, canon you know.

Perhaps there is hope that this fanficiton may be continued very soon
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Happy DUDE WEED day. What are your thoughts on reading or writing while high?
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>>55766494
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13041365/1/How-Dare-They

I have no idea about "heights" but writing fanfiction in a drunk alcoholic condition is not a commendable idea - the stories come off as shitpostish
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14161357/1/The-Essence-of-Life
I haven't written this in a while, but I'm interested in what this thread would think. It's slow going, but I think the climax of the first arc is pretty good. I stopped right before the start of Arc 2
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>>55766494
Can you get a "Training While Under The Influence" charge in the pokemon world? Presumably, beam-spamming dragons and monsters are far more dangerous than cars. Can a passing ranger or Officer Jenny arrest you or give you a ticket if she sees you high as shit or drunk as fuck, with your Pokemon out, presumably about to command them to do some dumb shit?
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>>55766526
i read the first several chapters, the pacing is glacial but it's better written than 99% of the slop in this fandom so i'll probably keep reading. things i liked:
>strong worldbuilding
>battle writing is good without a lot of bullshit
>interesting pokemon choices
things i dont like
>dialogue is a bit awkward and tropey
>character writing is a little confusing and inconsistent
>i've read what has to be well over 5k words and the first expedition hasn't even started yet
those things are fixable with more
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>>55766946
those things are fixable with more practice* idk what happened
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>>55766526
Holy fuck I remember when you were posting these in /padt/. I had only read up to chapter 8, because that was all you had written back then. I just read the remaining chapters, and yeah the finale to the Virizion arc was pretty amazing. I don't really like what you've done with the romance, though. Your character writing definitely improved during the first "arc", but the romance in the chapters after made it cringey like >>55766946 said all over again. Also Garchomp using two moves at the same time in order to beat a Z-Move is one of the silliest things I've ever seen read. Looking forward to the next arc, if you ever end up writing this again instead of grifting about the anime.
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>>55766526
>He scrolled through his phone, looking at the absolute state of his bank account.
i keked irl
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>>55766494
Weed is weak I'm going to catch a grass type and huff sweet scent all day.
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>>55766534
Makes you wonder if bars keep getting trashed by dangerous impromptu pokemon battles.
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>>55764010
Congratulations, that's 98% of Ashfics.
We don't call them Ashschizos or Ash self-inserters for nothing.
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>>55766526
I really liked the first Tag Battle of this series in Interlude 2. Palafin was kino.
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Question: what good pokesex fics do you know, which aren't just default pornoslop(benis in bagina, am bout to buss, sooo good) or even have intresting plots? Or what about different biology, surely there must be some fics focusing on that?
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>>55766526
im >>55766946, got some free time tonight and finished it. yeah, this is good. great, even. yeah the prose stumbles every now and then, but this series has a very clear vision. and i want to see that vision. please continue writing it. the way the verdant glade chapters ended was the best thing ive seen in a pokemon fanfic, hands down. kinda to the point that im worried you blew your whole metaphorical creative load on it.
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I wanna read something but something from Spacebattles.
I got a weird urge from something from there.
What are the recommended works from there? Good, bad, popular, obscure, old or new. I want it.
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>>55768970
Most Evil Pokemon Trainer is isekai kino with type auras and game mechanics
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>>55768816
was reading one with gardevoir, The Path Beyond Destiny is something similar. Unfortunately enter on hiatus in 2022 and no sex happened so far.
Also Binaural, guy with psychic powers and his lucario wife. Can be edgy some times.
There is also God's Most Unhined Bildungsroman, with a fem garchomp, and Heart of the Siren with a primarina (only pokephilia fic with marical sex so far)
although none of the above addresses stuff like different biology (guess you refer to stuff like lucario with cookie?)
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>>55768970
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/boldores-and-boomsticks-rwby-pokemon-crossover.627805/

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/outsiders-pok%C3%A9mon-familiar-of-zero-crossover-reverse-summon.621934/

Those two are the most popular Pokémon crossovers, if that's your thing, as far as I know
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>>55768816
kys animal fucker
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>>55769525
Pokemon are more intelligent and purehearted than human women. It's more like being an alien or angel fucker instead.
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>>55738694
I have all the passion and zero writer's block but the one thing I sorely lack in life is time.

I have finished Chapter 6 of my AshxDawn/Pearlshipping Longfic set when they're young adults. This was an interesting one to write as I didn't really know going into it how I was going to start tying stuff together without huge contrivances. The answers ended up flowing naturally as I began to type it out. One more chapter to go to wrap up the opening act. This was originally going to do that, but the chapter ended up being longer than expected and figured it best to break it up.

Ai Audiotheater of Chapter 1 Page 1 I did for fun:
https://vocaroo.com/1nCPZs1P6zEP

Ao3: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14216193/7/Divinity
FF.Net: https://archiveofourown.org/works/46152190/chapters/140357980
Wattpad: https://www.wattpad.com/1439835421-divinity-chapter-6-threads-of-fate
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>>55769536
Pokemon fail the harkness test.

>They say their own name, that's talking
Even if you count poke-speech as words, humans can't understand it anyway. It's not a language to you.

>But Mewtwo talks
Legendaries can't breed and thus do not have any age at which they are sexually mature for their species

>Okay so I'll just write a pokemon fic where the animal I want to fuck can talk
Modifying canon to technically pass the test, as it is written, is a slippery slope where you can make basically anything technically pass the test. If I wrote a story about my literal actual house cat being able to talk so I could fuck it, you'd call it bestiality too.
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>>55769681
>I can't verbally communicate with this hyper advanced alien species, thus fucking them is akin to bestiality
>t-telepathy doesn't count
roasty cope
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The petfags don't want you to know this, but you can just make Pokemon talk in your fanfiction. I've made several Pokemon talk in my fanfiction already.
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>>55769681
They are whatever the author wants them to be. And post with an Icetails pic next time.
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I've played the games and watched the anime, and if we're gonna be honest here, then not a single soul in either of the two canons is sapient. Human or otherwise.
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>>55769681
>Even if you count poke-speech as words, humans can't understand it anyway. It's not a language to you.
Meowth
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skinwalking is based and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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>>55769880
I wish I could possess a canon character and masquerade as them, pretending to be someone's son in a loving family and riffing with friends that aren't actually mine.
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>>55769906
You forgot the part where you fuck their girlfriend, get married, none of their pokemon the wiser, live happily ever after, then do it all over again
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>>55769919
>you lie on your deathbed after skinwalking as canon-character kun, having lived a fulfilling life with none the wiser that it was all a sham
>at peace, you close your eyes, waiting for hell to take you
>but then they open, and you find yourself in the body of the girl who you married, the girl who you deceived for 50 years
>you see "you" stumble out of the house that was never meant for you, but was yours all the same
>you see through the lie they make for being late. It's the same lie you made when first arriving here, after all
>it really is "you"
>and he doesn't know it's you, too
>you play along, silently thanking whatever devil brought you here for the opportunity to deceive even yourself
>but then a thought strikes you
>how many others are secretly "you"?
>no way, right?
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>>55769906
>>55769919
>>55769945
What you are describing is a symptom of schizophrenia
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Final chapter of my story is complete, for those who want to have a look: https://www.deviantart.com/mario72486/art/Lillie-in-Wonderland-Chapter-12-1044233565

If you wish to read it from the beginning, you can go here: https://www.deviantart.com/mario72486/art/Lillie-in-Wonderland-Chapter-1-1018186654
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>>55769005
Big thanks, I'll check all of this.
And in different biology I wasn't just talking about dogs, insects, avians, arthropods, reptiles, fish, artificial objects, spirits - basically it is really intresting to see how author would handle their biology.
>>55769681
Lol, this is the mental level of this prudes.
If we really are bringing here harknes test, then we are talking about the ability to dialogue, which could be concluded through any means, not just oral speech. And this without mentioning that even with vocablurary limited to severeal sounds you could easily code/decode any speech, it would be just more inefficient. Honestly even one sound is easy as long as other side could understand you, it would be just typical high/low single channel transmission line.
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>>55769681
>tfw my Chatot says "I'm an adult!" and "I want to fuck!" in succession
Harkness-bros...
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>>55770601
Theres no way anyone would wamt to fuck chatot.
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>>55770633
do you know where you are
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>>55770433
>It was all a dream
This was a silly cop-out in the original story that's only justified by the fact that book only exists over a the author losing his mind at the thought of complex mathematics. It's a pretty damn lame ending for a modern audience.
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>>55770633
Someone write a Chatot-fucking crackfic. It doesn't have to be long. If nobody else does it, I will.
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>>55772144
>faller teaches their chatot nigger
>no one knows what it means
>becomes catch phrase
>later actual nigger falls
>goes ballistic on strangers
>immediately taken out by officer jennys
>idyllic paradise
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>>55772224
If I was ever isekai'd I would make 4chan and /vp/ references in my Champion speech and use my power and influence to erect public shitposts for any Faller friend to find, sorta like fun hidden easter eggs!

And once my extensive spy network has caught wind of them, or they themselves try to approach me, I would have them assassinated before they can open their fucking mouths and ruin everything. I can't have anyone else from back home intruding on my paradise, spilling our secrets, reaping MY rewards. How would the people look upon me if they found out their hero, the unparalleled genius—was a cheat, some alien invading creature? I won't allow it. I won't let everything I've built so far be destroyed, or allow my pristine pokegirl harem to be disturbed. I will track down and refine into soul pills every single fellow Faller out there, if I have to personally cripple their type-aura cultivation myself.
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>>55773192
Ba-
>Haremcuck
Nevermind. Cringe.
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>>55773201
Fuck that, >>55773192 is a based Xianxia schizo.
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>>55773192
Two incineroars cant hide in the same mountain.
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Can someone explain just what the fic 'Broken Things' is? The plot just seems... spastic.
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>>55773420
Not sure, but in the latest chapter the trans main character told a floette that it's impossible for her (the pokemon) to accuse anyone of racism because the flotette is of white coloration. This is also the same character who has a 'male-identifying' miltank for some reason.
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>>55773438
Is the fic supposed to be satire?
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>>55773459
No. Its over 500k words and a good 50k seem dedicated to how difficult it is trying to be a 'transman' in Aloha, with the rest dedicated to 'problems being a lesbian, blind, mexican-aztec psychic'.
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>>55773438
and trannies wonder why everyone drops their fics at the first hint of a character being trans. Only Broken Thing is the damaged individual who wrote that garbage
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>>55773557
I'll only read stories like that if it's "My Immortal" tier retarded and the author spends most of their time getting into funny arguments with the readers.
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>>55773192
based demonic cultivator
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>best characters
>best music
>best setting
SOVL peaked in Unova and they've never managed to outdo it. Early 10's Black and White art is peak comfy.
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>>55775044
I don't understand how to write N, what's his deal?
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>>55775264
He's an autistic manchild that hallucinates being able to talk with Pokemon making it easy for his manipulative guardian to advance him as a messianic and revolutionary figure to the end of getting society to disarm and once defenseless become vulnerable to takeover by those still armed.
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>>55773192
Cringe coward and also harem-nigger. Have some dignity and show respect to the classic alien invader movies, fight not through some treachery and deceit, but submit entire world to your will through overwhelming firepower!
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>>55775673
He's a xianxiafag, the harem is only the most efficient way to recycle promising blooded descendents as aura cultivation resources.
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>>55739001
Just read through this, apart from a few spelling or grammar mistakes, this was a really good Yandere story with a twist. Although the ending was a bit too sudden.

Do you plan on continuing or making a sequel to this story?
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>>55775673
fucking pokemon isn't a harem story anon. Show me a single story where the harem is a team of pokemon the trainer has
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14252505/1/Sage-s-Reclamation

Anyone's read this?
Was browsing ff.net frontpage out of lazy boredom and this stood out.
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>>55776825
Read first 7 chapters, questionable AU, guess it is better than typical Ash-shit or smth, but nothing truly exceptionale. Try to read first chapters,if you don't like it - do not bother with the rest.
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>>55775264
He's a genius and MC-tier prodigy, possibly even beyond them. Motherfucker cycles through an area recruiting whatever's around and then kicks ass with it, never keeping a permanent team.
Yeah he's manipulated by Ghetsis, but the guy's a sociopath cult leader who fooled everyone else, give him a break.

Don't fall for the meme of making him an idiot or a man child blinded by his ideals. He's eccentric, yes, but very much a Champion and a formidable opponent chosen by a Legendary.
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>>55776825
I read 5 chapters but lost interest because the pacing was slow. If you end up reading through more let me know if it picks up. I wasn't interested in reading 10+ chapters of man-babysits-sloth.
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How common of a problem are roving gangs of rapists in the world of Pokemon? So many young, gullible trainers out by themselves in the desolate wilderness...
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>>55778377
Rapists aren't a problem because all of the potential rapists get pokemon instead, and rape is power + privilege therefor it's impossible to rape a pokemon who enjoys a privileged status in society and holds more power than humans.
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>>55778526
Humans are the funnest prey anon, it's not just about a quick fuck. It's about the chase, the thrill, and the eventual reward. About making someone who looks like you submit to what you want. Anyone and their mom can sexually assault their magic dog slave, boooring. But imprinting yourself in the mind of a pubescent young girl? Becoming her nightmare, haunting her for life? That means something. That's something your typical shitmon fleshlight can't replace.
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>>55778553
pokegirls are all sluts who want it, so rape is impossible. Only pokemon can satisfy the male desire to dominate.
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>>55778377
Getting charged for sexual assault of a registered Trainer probably nets you the death penalty at the very least. I'd imagine that most regions would flog you before a public hanging at the very least.
It seems that several national economies hinge on the guaranteed safety of the League system, after all.
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>>55776403
Equilibrium
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>>55778655
the Christian Bale movie?
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I am writing a harem fic starring Ash as the MC.
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>>55778594
>pokegirls are all sluts who want it
Then the next best thing is to torture and kill them. Maybe rape their corpse afterwards. It's a bit of a waste, but you'd leave more of a mark that way.
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>>55739001
You should post these publicly somewhere anon I know dudes who'd go crazy with this stuff
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>>55778789
How many times has he been betrayed so far and does his harem and murder count number in the double digits yet?
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>>55778789
I was going to but I told myself no one would read it. It was inspired by PM Gals.
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>>55779271
Whoever told you that was lying. People read slop all the time. The real filter for readers is basic grammar.
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>>55779271
As someone who has never published a single chapter, people will read fucking anything as long as it's
a) readable(basic grammar)
b) appealing to their desires(Ash fuc k big harem show bob and vagona SEX SEX BOOBY SEX)
c) posted somewhere that people can find it and includes the important tags/keywords in the synopsis and title
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Least and most useless starter line?
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>>55778932
He never gets betrayed, his harem is in the double digits, no he does not murder people or pokemon.
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>>55779885
SHITorita
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>>55736117
>Unless I'm mistaken, the only person we know who's been negatively affected by Falling is Ingo
Didn't Anabel, Looker and Mohn all suffer from amnesia after Falling? Or are you referring to something else?
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Why is wattpad a shithole?
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>>55779885
When it comes to fanfics the answer is whatever starter line you hate the most.
But really, the answer is Chesnaught. I don't think I've ever read a fanfic that featured it.
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Writebros, give me longfics to read, I wanna enjoy stuff again.
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>>55780990
How long are we talking?
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>>55780990
Order received, one power fantasy SI isekai slop coming right up.
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>>55780990
Your cringeslop, sir
https://archiveofourown.org/works/20976296/chapters/49878359
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>>55781205
some REAL garbage, maybe something involving a school, too, those are long as hell.
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Anyone have the Guzma fic where there was a line that read something like, "He bucked his hips like a wild Tauros"?
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>>55781312
>Mature, M/F
Does he fuck the Mawile?
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>>55781419
I'm not really sure if this is the length you're going for, but I wrote this a some time ago. Maybe add it to your list or something.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/49048243/chapters/123742576

I am working on the sequel, too, which will be quite long.
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>>55782141
No, she gets NTRd by his childhood friend Gardevoir
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>>55757991
Qrd?
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>>55780227
Anabel and Looker fell? I think I have gaps in my lore. I forgot about Mohn.

>>55780990
Go read that 1million+ word fic about Jasmine
https://archiveofourown.org/works/1609088/
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Would your Pokemon care if you're a Faller?
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>>55783679
Depends on the kind of 'Faller'.
Would you care if your coach was an alien? Probably, and maybe in a bad way if you don't like them already.
Would you care if they came from an alternate timeline Earth that's pretty different? Probably, but maybe in an interested way.
Would you care if they came from a practically identical alternate timeline Earth? Probably not.

Unless we're going with the "Fallers attract interdimensional metal gear murder machines with their very presence", in which case they'd probably care an awful lot if they knew about that bit.
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>>55779277
>>55779283
I might, then. The plot was Ash’s previous girls show up to Alola to celebrate his becoming champion but they don’t get along at first and fight for his attention. I was gonna call it “Alola, Sidepiece!”
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>>55783695
>"Fallers attract interdimensional metal gear murder machines with their very presence"
What? Is this from a game I didn't play.
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>>55783951
people who travel through ultraspace get the energy of ultraspace stuck on them which causes ultrabeasts to emerge from ultraspace at their location and fuck them up. Depending on the beast it could be something benign to something legendary class. Interpol uses fallers as bait sometime without them knowing to look out for these beasts or figures out what to do with them since they are like glowing tasty beacons for interdimension pokemon
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>>55783679
Of course they would care, they care about you and this is important part of you.
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Is it just me or does anger rarely seem to land right? It feels like most fanfic expressions of anger are exaggerated in a way that makes them hard to take seriously. Every time I read about some protagonist's blood boiling it seems like an attempt by the author to make the protagonist look good/righteous/whatever to the audience rather than an expression of real character.
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>>55785186
I think the problem is a combination of inexperience and not understanding that characters are a means unto themselves that exist separately from them as a writer.
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>>55785186
is it just me or are like 90% of side characters/one off character's entire personality "sarcastic jerk but totally means well except can't respond to anything without making it a joke/marvel one liner/witty response moment"

I chalk it up to bad writing
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>>55784436
I wouldn't deserve Pokemon, I'm not worthy of being a trainer....
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>>55785186
And it always feels more like throwing a tantrum than actual rage. The context leading to the rage is typically minor and something I would expect a child to tantrum over.
>character gets inconvenienced / insulted one single time or sees a bad person do something mildly cruel to a pokemon
>character immediately enters a berserk state and begins their warpath of justice
Especially prevalent among protagonists. It reeks of marvel brainrot.
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>>55787069
>People malfunction and become enraged at the smallest bit of opposition

So the standard internet user? Makes sense given the age/backgrounds of the majority of fanfic writers.
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>>55787069
>reeks of marvel brainro
Bad writers having their characters overreact because they lack subtlety is in no way the fault of the MCU. It has been a thing for at least as long as the internet, if not far longer. Hell I was writing shit like that back in... probably 1998 or so?

Fuck I'm old.
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>>55787354
>my reaction when someone says pokemon isn't an idyllic paradise
those tits and hips on a 10-12 year old say otherwise
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>>55739313
>create be capable
Maybe you should join him, retard.
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>>55773482
i wish i could write as well as that author and be that dedicated but yeah modern liberalism is insane

the pokedex is mostly alright tho
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Good thread
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Are Legendaries immortal? I'm asking because I've got the scene in my fic (hopefully coming soon) where an evil Pokemon eats Mew alive and I want to know if it's not too crazy.
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>>55789377
>an evil Pokemon eats Mew alive and I want to know if it's not too crazy
Mew has access to all moves.
Teleport like an Abra.
Vore fetish denied.
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>>55789377
>>55789861
I'd make them unable to die of old age but capable of dying from external means.
Think Kame Sennin.

I remember that one old-ass edgefic where when legendaries died they'd basically go to paradise to chill but the catch was that they'd only remain on paradise half as long as their alive time and then respawn on the actual world and for every death they suffered their paradise time would be halved so legendaries started to lose it because the longer they lived the less paradise time they'd have and it reached a point where they'd kill their offspring as soon as they were born to minimize their paradise time so that they wouldn't know the pain of knowing what heaven is like but never being able to experience it properly or forever.

I think the main villain of that fic was a Celebi?
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I only read BETRAYAL™ KINO with guns, fuck Aura, Psychics and magic
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>>55790846
You do?
Then recommend five you have read.
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>>55790859
that's the joke, since guns are basically non-existent in Pokémon fanfics that means I don't read...
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>>55790946
Faker.
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>>55790846
Betrayed fics are beginner level readings. True kino is having Ash fall to the darkside despite his friends and family still loving him. Ash going bad in order to protect them and falling farther and farther away from the person he used to be is peak fiction.


The idea that even the pure hero can be corrupted is an orgasmic storyline.



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