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Just traded with a friend to get a prime catcher, feel like I can run whatever I want now. How did they not realize this card was going to be in 95% of all decks?

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>>55754722
Because they were planning to print just as broken ones like focus sash for every type and roxanne on an item card

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monke

TOTAL CHARIZARD DEATH. STUPID FUCKING BIRD. FUCKING BOSS EVERY TURN. KNOCK IT OUT AND THEY FUCK ME ANYWAY. JUST GETS THE CANDY, JUST GETS THE CHARIZARD. 300 DAMAGE FOR TWO ENERGIES. I WAS GONNA WIN SO YOU JUST SCOOP IT UP WITH TURO AND EVOLVE AGAIN. GREAT. GLAD YOU HAVE THE FUCKING CHARIZARD DILDO IN YOUR ASS AT ALL TIMES.

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I just started playing Pokemon TCG Live yesterday, I have zero prior experience with the TCG. So far I'm having fun, give me lots of tips please.

How do you play Gardevoir now without getting choked out by turn 3?

I swear it feels like you just cannot find cards in this deck anymore

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>>55754833
It's just a card game bro.

>>55754854
You don't. It's time to let it go.
I would love to still play Giratina, but the deck feels awful now. Consistency was always one of its problems and it's even worse now.

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>>55754833

>>55754871
AAAAAHHHHHHあああああああああああ

>>55754799
Is Focus Sash really that great? I mean I guess you have lots of tools to pick up your not-dead mon but all of them are supporters.

>>55754975
Back when Focus Sashw as around, we had Laser and then immediately got Bats afterward which completely ruined it, not to mention Toad prevented you from attaching it to begin with. Also, the only worthwhile Fighting type was Lucario, who was never above tier 2.

The effect, however, is extremely strong if you can't shut it off. It can force another turn for yourself by making it so your opponent can't take a prize this turn.

>>55754989
Yeah but now it's an Ace Spec which means easier to prize and harder to recover. And there's Jamming Tower coming up making every Ace Spec tool useless.

>>55754975

besides gardevoir, basically every deck that would run cape would rather run focus sash, granted cape in most lists is off meta

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>>55754833
Zard ? No prob

>>55755006
>print Iron Leaves as a Zard killer
>it costs GGC so it can't be splashed
>no deck runs Grass energy
>the only one that did got gutted by rotation

>>55754975
It saves you having to build up another mon from scratch and cheats your opponent out of a turn essentially. It can easily win you a game if your opponent can't deal with it. Lugia's have been using it on cinccino, letting them hit for 350 again because you couldn't get around the focus sash

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>>55755047
If only the grass dog was still with us...

>>55755006
Zard would be doable for grass types if it wasn't for radzard raping every grass type that tries to counter. Both bugs and grass are weak to fire so there's not gonna be a grass type card that isn't weak to fire

>>55755090
I doubt that anyone would use 2 zards to power a single prizer. Even with Entei or Gouging fire can be easily countered by 2 Spidops

>>55754850
Don't make your own decks right away, google upgrade paths for the starter decks.

>>55755128
my bad. Gouging fire has only 2 retreats which is the worst nightmare for Spidos for sure

>>55755128
The point is zard gets to have a 4 prize game vs grass decks as radzard exists. It's just a free 2 prizes at the end of the game for them.
It should've never hit for weakness desu, they at least redeemed that with ursaluna but grass types are dead until radiants rotate

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Would a move like this be useful today? Feels like it'd be really good if everything wasn't ohko's.

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>>55755648
Not really. This only saw play in Victini VMAX at the end of the Tag Team format.

>>55754850
just do whatevers fun
the worst part about card games will always be waiting for the other players turn to end

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>>55755648
Raticate saw some play when Brute Bonnet came out but it's clunky and slow so it never took off

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>>55755648
Still a meme tier

>>55755980
This + 3 Frosslass

>Roaring Dudunsparce is a thing
Huh? What's the basis for it? Is it just Turbo Moon but with baby Moon?

>>55756059
No it's not turbo moon. It's slower but more steady. You're not burning half your deck to load up several attackers in 1-2 turns. Baby Moon only needs 2 energy so it's very easy to setup and gets stronger as you use your Vessels and Ancient Supporters. Dunsparce + Dudunsparce package condenses pivot and draw on a single prize card and is fetchable with artazon, which the deck already runs to get Roaring Moons out of the deck. You even run 2-3 of Roaring Moon ex for the Zard matchup, with the goal of building a hand that can allow you to put the ex down then instantly load it up with Sada/Dark Patch and pivot into it for a KO against a huge HP opposing mon.

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>W - Hypnosis
>Your opponent's Active Pokémon is now Asleep.
>CC - Jupping Uppercut 120+
>You may have this attack deal 120 more damage. If you do, shuffle this Pokémon and all cards attached to it back into your deck.
Not enough damage to be viable but could be fun

>>55756300
220 is decent for a hit and run, 240 with neo. you're ohkoing basic ex. pivot a mimikyu/iron thorns/fluttermane when you shuffle.

>>55755980
I love playing tsareena but it's like 1 card short of being really meta in my opinion

>>55756059
>>55756216
It's also hilariously easy to hit master with that deck too online

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>>55756876
Stage 2 decks really just need an evolution search item. Ultra ball is too aggressive

>>55756889
Yeah but the trade off is imagine how cancer Zard would be with this card

>>55756904
Not that much more cancer really, as long as they chain into a pidgeot they can pull any combo they want already

Still the trade off to make other stage 2 decks good might be worth it, they have enough HP and damage to contest charizard but are currently just brickfests

>>55756876
it's only going to get worse after the next rotation since the entire deck is barely held together by Irida

>>55757117
Irida that fetched any stage 2 + item would be such a nice supporter to have. That's why garchomp has merit too, she saves stage 2 water pokemon.
Erata it to exclude stage 2s with abilities if you wanna deny charizard/pidgeot using it. While others like greninja, tyranitar, tsareena, garchomp, torterra etc etc can all use it and help them from bricking

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I have finally reached Arceus league after starting the ladder like 2 weeks ago.
What the hell am I supposed to do now?

>>55757872
Chill out ig. No need to burn out

>>55757878
the last time I played TCG was like 8 years ago and back then PTCGO had tournaments you could join. Does live have something like this that I just didn't notice?

>>55757889
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/?game=PTCG
If you're looking for that sort of thing, then this site is your best bet

>>55757898
Thanks

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Apparently this list won a champion's cup in Japan.
Iron Hands eat your heart out.

>>55758773
>19 energies

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>>55758880
I tried it in a couple games and it works because of that. Your generators are very consistent and by retreating between raikou you can draw any other cards you need. The one change I'd make to the deck is to replace 1 Miraidon with a Pachirisu to avoid getting totally walled by a Mimikyu, which happened to me when I was playing against a Great Tusk mill deck

>>55758773
Is the 4 Seal Stone really necessary? What do you even search for in this deck.

>>55757831
>having to metaphorically dig for fossil pokemon

Restored pokemon gimmick is cool

>>55759045
You search for whatever piece you need to guarantee the earliest possible attack consistently. You look for Miraidon if you don't start with one, Arven if you need a bravery charm + generator/prime catcher.

>>55758996
>>55759045
i'm currently building it and swapped 2 energies and 1 stone for 3 colognes should i encounter a mimikyu, will let you know how it goes

>>55758773
Gholdengo ex continues to be a poor matchup. Not one that can be fixed either, since Flaafy's gone.

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>uhhh yeah turn 2 i get to infinitely attach energy and one-shot anything by discarding from any mon on my board and avoid bricking with greninja who also bench snipes any non- big basic or stage 2 and i never run out of waters because i pokestop and irida for energy retrieval & super rod which i then draw using the ability on my 220hp basic
>huh? you can't gust my frigibax and kill it because you couldn't get your attacker ready before i was able to use one of sixty-thousand fucking ways to draw the pieces i need to establish mine? sorry bro must be a deck diff
>oh? you want to take a mulligan because you drew a slightly suboptimal hand that would otherwise be playable but hard loses to this fuckass deck? sorry dude this game was designed by crack-smoking masochists who find great joy in the healthy competitive environment where watching your opponent top deck for 4 turns because they don't dedicate half their deck to draw support is a fun and normal experience
>what? you managed to establish a board despite everything, and you were able to knock out the major factor in my strategy? sorry idiot i rolled buddy poffin on my pokestop last turn so there are two more frigibax on my bench for next turn where i play irida because of course i fucking draw irida whenever i need it

i hate this stupid-ass, polarizing core so much. it's not interactive at all and promotes zero strategy. if you play any evolution deck you may as well just concede the moment they put irida down. zard is more manageable than this.

>just use TM devolution you grouchy dumbass
that would be great if they weren't drawing everything under the sun with gren + bibarel + pokestop + whatever
they only need 1 rare candy to get attacks going. i would need to run 4 to ensure success with it. even then, they can just run arctibax too and negate it.

they gotta change the mulligan rules man, this shit is too stupid. what kind of backwater trading card game doesn't give you ANY agency in your starting hand?

skill issue

>>55759720
Unironically skill issue

skill issue

>>55758773

>4 copies of every card they use except the ace spec and energies

grade school tier kino deckbuilding desu
deserved the win

>>55759720
lol just run future hands if you're so terrified of chien poo
just amp you very much 2 times to get all 6 of your prize cards and win

>>55758773
>4 green stone
whoa not everyone can afford that luxury

>>55760049
there are cheap stones you know
>prize pack series
>league battle decks

>imagine being poor
lmao

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New Ace Spec - Secret Box
>This card may only be played if you discard 3 cards from your hand
>Search your deck for 1 item, 1 tool, 1 supporter, and 1 stadium. Reveal them to your opponent, then shuffle the deck

>>55760138
meant to say "Reveal them to your opponent, put the chosen cards in your hand, then shuffle the deck"

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Pokemon Tool: Hand Fan
When the pokemon this card is attached to receives damage from an opponent's pokemon attack, choose one energy attached to the pokemon that attacked and attach it to one of your opponent's benched pokemon

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Luxray ex
Attack 1: CC 120
Look at your opponent's hand, choose one card from it and discard it
Attack 2: LL 250
Discard all energy from this pokemon

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Scolipede
Attack 1: DC
Place damage counters on your opponent's active pokemon til their remaining HP becomes 10

>>55760153
unfair stamp buddy

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>>55760165
notably the associated Venipede has 80 HP.
RIP poffin

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Chandelure
>can be used once per turn, each player draws one card from their deck
Attack 1: F
30x number of cards in your opponenent's hand

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Emolga
Attack 1: C 10
This attack also does 10 damage to each of your opponent's benched pokemon (weakness and resistance is not applied)

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Jynx
Attack 1: C
Search your deck for a basic pokemon, put it onto your bench, and shuffle your deck. Then, choose an energy attached to this pokemon and move it to the pokemon you chose.

>>55760205
thats kinda ok

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Heatran
Ability: Scorching Body
If this pokemon is in the active spot and is damaged by an attack from one of your opponent's pokemon, that pokemon is burned
Attack 1 MCC
Discard all M energy attached to this pokemon.
This attack does 50x the number of energy discarded.

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Ambipom
Ability:
During your turn, when you play this card from your hand to evolve one of your pokemon, you may use this ability.
Flip 2 coins.
For each heads, choose a card from your opponent's hand without looking at their hand.
Reveal the cards chosen and shuffle them back into your opponent's deck

>>55760165
so this is what >>55760197 is for

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Glimmora
Attack 1: C
Flip a coin, if Heads, the defending pokemon is now poisoned and paralyzed.
Attack 2: F 30+
If the defending pokemon is poisoned, this attack does 100 more damage

>>55760221
Aw hell nah

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Chimeco
Attack 1: P 20
Attack 2: CC
Choose one of your benched pokemon. Shuffle that pokemon and all cards attached to it into your deck.

Rest of the new cards look like a lot of pack filler rip, even the ace spec.

Hopefully night wanderer set has some good cards, it should be the toxic trio and maybe pecharunt too. So we finally get a pay off for all the poison support we've gotten lately

Otherwise so far the meta doesn't look like it's changing with twilight masquerade, literally none of these cards are impactful besides survival brace and ursaluna

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Selfie Stick
Look at the top 4 cards of your deck. Choose any amount of supporters you find among them and put them into your hand. Shuffle the rest back into your deck.

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Kilowattrel ex
Attack 1: L
Switch this pokemon with one of your benched pokemon. Then choose up to 2 basic L energy and attach them to this pokemon
Attack 2: CC 40+
this attack does 40 more damage for each L energy attached to this pokemon.

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Scrafty
Attack 1: C
For each of your benched pokemon, you may search your deck for a card and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your deck.
Attack 2: DCC 100

>>55760349
Then choose up to 2 basic L energy FROM YOUR HAND and attach them to this pokemon.

apologies, pretty late

>>55760138
>Skyla but you get every trainer card
Eh..... It's a powerful effect, but the cost is also big.

>>55760222
Nah your meant to pair Scolipede with Brute Bonnet just like >>55755769

>>55760340
Welcome back, Trainer's Mail. Though I wonder if it's better to use the new Tatsugiri or this.

>>55760389
There’s virtually no reason to use it over pokegear. You’re not finding two supporters off the item very often, and even if you do, you can’t play two supporters in a turn so it doesn’t give you much immediate value.

Does anyone here play on an Android tablet? Would TCG Live be playable on a cheap Galaxy Tab (say, the A9 or A9+), or is it too badly optimized for those entry level tablets?

i'm looking at the cards and like, thank fucking god they finally made rare cards that are actually beautiful with actual artists 2d drawing them instead of the ugly ass renders or vmax garbage / rainbow colored etc shit they used back then
I hope they never go back to how it was before because pokémon card has never been so fun to collect than it currently is

>>55761051
It's badly optimized on all devices, but I don't see anything special about the a9 that would cause any issues so you should be fine.

>>55761154
>>55735734

>>55760138
This card in Hisuian Zoroark literally sets the entire board by itself jfc lol

>>55760165
tsaarenabros... we already got surpassed...

>>55761156
I didn't mean that one in particular, just tablets of the same calibre. Oh well, looks like I'll pick one up and get back to playing. Phone is to small, and laptop is too much of a hassle to play on.

>>55761228
>needs one more energy
>can't target the bench
Eh, it's just Raticate 2.0 and it barely saw any play. Tsareena's 1 energy attack and having Irida available is more versatile imo.

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chim
>>55760270
predicting Creatures likes Pecharunt more than Ogerpon and will make the former good
>>55761154
'collectors go to the collector general' anon is right but I can't get over how the 3d vmax cards fail to communicate that these mons are giants, at least with tera cards they have an excuse

What's with the trend of reused attacks?
>Rapid Strike Urshifu -> Greninja ex
>Zoroark VStar -> Aggron
>Raticate -> Scolipede
I'd understand it if it's literally the same attack like Venoshock, but this seems even lazier to me.

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Is she good?

>>55761677
super trash

>>55761677
Her lil bro is much better

Hi besties, I'm gonna print some proxies to play with my normie friends and learn the game but I want them to look nice and high quality, is there a place where I can download HD images of the cards and possibly also with all the alt arts available?

>>55761730
pkmncards.com

>>55761742
I love you

>>55760138
I might buy this card on pre-release, what ever price it is then it is only going to go up. This shit is straight broken, I though computer search was good lol. Hear you only discard 1 more card to get everything you need on an item. Even with the other cards being good, this card will be a staple in 80% of every deck.

>>55760138
Is this really that broken? I don't see the hype
You'll most likely need arven to irida to pull it and it doesn't include a pokemon so it's not a rare candy+evolution search. Tool and stadium aspects of it seem rather useless. So often it's ultra ball discard those latter 2 and find a supporter? THAT'S your ace spec?

>>55762182
The stadium search might be helpful for magma basin decks, but you're probably better off with arven for a switch card+seal stone.

>>55762182
yeah it's pretty meh desu

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Mightyena – Darkness – HP120
Stage 1 – Evolves from Poochyena

[D] Pack Outing: 30+ damage. This attack does 90 more damage for each of your Benched Mightyena.

[D][C] Corner: 60 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, the Defending Pokémon can’t retreat.

Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

90x is a pretty good ramp up, but 120hp and prize cards make it terrible.

It’s pretty good in some decks. Imagine playing ancient box and getting to discard some energy and some ancient pokemon to go get pokestop, ancient booster capsule, Sada’s vitality, and a counter catcher.

>>55762645
>Ancient box doesn't want the ancient ace spec
>Future box doesn't want the future ace spec
Why were both so shit? They should've definitely made them way stronger. Reboot pod is like the most useless ace spec

>>55762699
They are fine, Prime Catcher is just overpowered.

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>bought 3 cards for 3/4 decks
>prime catcher was $28
>get refunded my money, because the store was broken into, cards stolen, co-owner beat up
>lowest prime catcher is now $32
>iron leaves ex wasn't stolen, but they didn't give it to me

>>55762715
It's an ace spec meant for one small niche of pokemon, yet the ace specs are still so underpowered compare to the general use ace specs. Considering they're meant for only a small archetype they definitely could've upped the power level on drum/reboot pod

>>55762767
>future slop with an even better ace spec
how horrifying

>>55762852
>People don't want future buffed because iron hands
Tragic to see that iron hands ruined any hope of future box with iron boulder/leaves and friends ever being good

Any tips for the Charizard mirror? It feels like it's just a matter of who gets to 330 damage first and there's no way to take a decisive lead because of the way Burning Darkness works.

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>Greninja already stole the SIR for tera this set
>4 ogerpon SIR too
>Dragapult will get a regular FA
>Tera FA with the plain white background is ugly
Man.. I wanted a cool version since it's gonna be strong and get better with the dragon set later this year

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you're ooold
>>55763144
If only those '3d model just stands there' alts had any effort put into them

This set looks fucking awful outside of the ace specs and Ursuluna

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>>55763156
I hate how the generic ex/v/gx art is just 3d model shit nowadays
You'd think for the big 2prizers they would hire some good art for them? But nah they're usually just 3d model or 5ban stuff
It's not even a case of them saving it for only SIR, they're done actual art on ex's before and it looks nice compare to 3d. It's just especially worse on tera pokemon to get bad regular arts because their FA looks awful

>>55763406
Pretty much, it's not gonna change the meta besides ursaluna in most decks. Iron thorns is a meme when even quad miraidon/raikou can win.

Shame they did ogerpon dirty like that, hopefully she gets a tool or synergy when we get the toxic chain trio set to continue the ogre kitakami story

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>>55763406
You aren't excited for control gaining the ability to rip basics from the deck?

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>>55763435

There’s usually 2-3 done by contracted artists per set. We all wish it was all done by artists but I’m fine with the higher rarity art being what they commission.

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>>55763435
I wouldn't say nowadays since 2 prizers being mostly 3d has been the case since B&W but yeah
5ban and similar have really outstayed their welcome and have barely improved from 2011, if they're going to stick around they should at least adapt to stylized 3d art becoming increasingly more common
>>55763456
Still baffled that ivy cudgel is nowhere to be seen, not sure what the point of potentially saving it for later is

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>>55763484
>>55763492
It's just odd because there's no lack of good artists, regular cards get amazing art. It's just the 2 prizers are always 3d models now instead of being something nice.
Like between a regular common/uncommon card and a higher rarity ex, you'd think they would invest better art into the rarer one? Especially if they're also competitive ones? Miraidon from S/V was like this, it's the big legendary of the set/game and very strong gameplay, but they gave it some awful arts for what it's worth.

>>55763526
i like the SAR

>>55763526
At this point it feels like it's because that's what they've been doing for the past decade or so and since 5ban is a part of creatures they need to continue justifying their existence despite there being no shortage of artists nowadays

>>55762633
>90x is a pretty good ramp up, but 120hp and prize cards make it terrible.
Glad someone else realizes this.

>>55763406
b-but pokebeach told me its the best set in years

>>55763941
it is, we get ponpon

>>55762182
I love when retards try to hype cards and then they become worthless (remember 151 ditto? lmao)
I mean the card isn't bad by any means but it's far from being BCIF

>>55763980
>ogerbox is probably gonna be the free deck next battlepass
she does it for FREE! then id imagine greninja as well for the 2nd

>>55763406
They are trying to tone down the powercreep, kinda based desu

>>55764184
How do the free decks work in tcg live? Do we get multiple and then two the battle pass or just the two battle pass decks next set.

>>55764332
two battle pass decks next set.
we only get the 8x free ones whenever rotation happens

>>55764264
>tone down the powercreep
>1 prizers hitting ridiculous numbers
They're not doing a great job at it.

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>>55764397
This has been a thing for years.

>>55764264
>proceeds to release charizard that competed with prior powercreep (thats now rotated)
if they nuked the rest of the SW/SH sets and removed charizard the meta would be so insanely underpowered, powercreep would've been solved

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Do you miss her? She kept Charizard at bay.

>>55758773
Made some tweaks to the list and took it from bottom of Ultra Ball to bottom of Master Ball tier over the last couple of days.
Took out an energy and 2 FSS, added POGO Zapdos, Pachirisu and Cologne.
Here are my thoughts based on my games:
>Obviously want to go second as much as possible. Going first can lead to some instant losses against Iron Hands, Roaring Moon if you end up with only one pokemon in active.
>Zard matchup is very winnable but you need to be smart about when to pass certain prize counts. If you're down to two prizes Bravery Charm does nothing, so prize map accordingly.
>Iron Hands matchup tends to come down to who gets first KO. Mind your HP to avoid taking an Amp KOs. Iron Crowns are easy KOs, if you get Zapdos down and get an early Iron Hands KO you've pretty much won.
>I ran into mimikyu in most of the games before put in my anti mimikyu techs and so I don't know how effective they are.
>Lugia is a free win.
>Arceus is a favored matchup

The mobile version is probably gonna be the only successful pokemon mobile game besides GO.

>>55764559
Isn't pokemon cafe doing good? Wouldn't see why it would keep appearing every pokemon presents otherwise

>>55764559
we at /zzz/ disagree

>>55764559
Unite says what?

>>55764924
? That shit is dying

>>55765638
it should be a support with a huge drawback

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KINTHC5xSJM
official way to play Ogerpon

Is Gardevoir league battle deck any good out of the box in the current meta or will it require much upgrading? I'm on the fence about buying one to jump back into the game.

>>55764414
Charizard is still in the previous block. They're obviously powering the game down in the new H block. SV up to this point has been extremely overpowered and boring.

>locals yesterday
>only men play
>a woman(female) decides to go for the first time
>we are talking about decks and seeing each others binders
>woman sees full art penny
>she starts talking about how penny is 'non-binary'
Why are women like this?

What deck beats Charizard that isn't Snorlax Stall or Giratina?

>>55766007
Charizard

2GZ-YWXX-GW2-P67
WHJ-6MMV-T7W-LT7

No idea if these are still valid, got them when buying singles

>>55765817
>Charizard is still in the previous block.
I know that's why I excluded it

>has been extremely overpowered and boring.
do you mean underpowered? because S/V so far has been underwhelming compare to the old Sw/SH decks. There's a reason why lost box, lugia, arceus are still the best decks. The only new outlier is charizard (and gardevoir before it lost a lot) so if you removed charizard and the rest of SW/SH the game power level would be noticeably lower

>>55766242
Someone already got em rip, maybe it was a bot

Insane that these threads have been here like 8+ years and people still think there are bots

ok, bot
whatever you say, bot

>>55765810
yeah, go ahead and buy it, it's quite good out of the box, you only "need" some minor tweaks

>>55765810
Basically just need driftloon (common), scream tail (uncommon) and the heroes cape ace spec (or unfair stamp in the next set). Then you're good to go
Keep in mind gardevoir will not survive next years rotation though, kirlia and greninja are gone so it's almost certainly dead

sex with ursiiday

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Where did it go so wrong? Hassel is absolutely fucking useless.
The other 2 were good but still not must haves, they were perfectly designed.

>>55767606

We are literally getting unfair stamp what more do you want after your Pokémon is knocked out? “If your pokemon was knocked out during your last turn, take 6 six prize cards and shit in your opponents mouth”?

>>55761677
Turn 1 going first you can
>Squawk for discard hand draw 6
>Carmine for discard hand draw 5
>Drawing either or Lumineon/Ultra Ball basically guarantees you get the other
She's going to be a great card but only in a few decks

>>55767661
Unfair stamp is just punishing to your opponent for ever taking a knock out, it's not used in the concept of being a comeback card like teammates/raihan were getting your set up caught up again

Like how can you sit there and say hassel is fine looking at only the top 8 and picking 3. When teammates existed and was balanced which could pick 2 out of your ENTIRE deck. Obviously I don't want shit like take 6 prize cards but it's quite clear how utter dogshit hassel is compare to the known balanced versions of these types of supporters

>>55767606
>Where did it go so wrong?
TPC simply doesnt want to print more Charizard Ex suppport

>>55767929
Benefits for being knocked out implies you're able to kill 330 HP starting from turn 2 when nothing good can hit it for weakness lmao

>>55767606
everything is getting nerfed besides pokemon
things like float stone, dce and aurora energy are never gonna get a reprint, instead we're getting watered down versions of them (the new rescue board, double turbo and luminous energies)

>>55768074
in special energies case it's 100% because lugia/archeops. once thats gone i can see rainbow energy equivalents appearing again. like ancient or future energy, or even tera or stellar energy.

I just want type-specific Special Energies back.

>>55768203
regibro...

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>>55768203
Same.. they were fun, and usually good enough to build around

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>>55768344
>>usually good enough to build around
>those grass energy effects compare to the rest
They really have always hated grass types huh? What does PTCI have against grass types?

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>>55768601
They're still paying for their mistake, they're not allowed to make Grass good anymore.

>I like cards that punish your opponent for taking prizes or let you make a come back
Fight me

>the meowscarada guy from last week won the challenge today
>ancient box, dialga, zard
good for him

>>55768989
retard here. what are the deck's problems? consistency? jirachi? only hitting the bench?

>>55769010
Lot of moving pieces yeah. Needing energy to ping + alakazam to move it to active. While also needing DTE to attack and rare candy combos.
Traditional stage 2 problems. Jirachi doesn't affect it nor does manaphy so it's got a nice match up into a lot, but just ends up bricking itself half the time

>>55769199
I wish there was something to give stage 2 more consistency. Gard has Kirlia and zard is broken, but it would be cool to have some kind of support.
Yeah, zard would become more powerful, but maybe they could restrict it so zard couldn't use.

Dragon Totem – Trainer
Pokémon Tool (ACE SPEC)

As long as this Tool is attached to one of your Pokemon in play, ignore all Energy in the costs of attacks used by your dragon Pokemon

You may attach any number of Pokémon Tools to your Pokémon during your turn. You may attach only 1 Pokémon Tool to each Pokémon, and it stays attached.

Would it save dragon types?

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>>55769303
It would be broken. Free 280 damage to the active or 220 snipe turn on 1.

>>55769266
Zard gets to bypass one of the issues with stage 2s by accelerating it's own energy. Kirlia/gardy get to ignore the consistency of rare candy combos.
All a stage 2 really needs is a built in way to ignore one of the annoyances of being a stage 2. Needing rare candy + energy attachments + a draw engine + any other support like alakazam is just too much, even tera greninja has been under performing for that reason and that has 2 overtuned attacks.

>>55769359
Would this work with the new Infernape that lets you attach a fire and fighting energy from hand?

>>55769663
If you're building a stage 2 to power up a basic like that you may as well use bax/chienpao which doesn't have a cap of 280
Will be a fine deck but nothing meta

>>55765777
Looks fun.
Easy Charizard matchup
Hitting 210 with a one-prizer
End-game unavoidable snipe
Seems like it'd struggle against too many decks tho

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>>55765777
>>55769853
screw ogerpon that's just a liability, embrace the tea sniping version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjHoNn0yH3g

>>55769896
>The first hand is Rotom and 6 energy
>Rotom draw another 3 energy

gg

>>55770777
what I call my cock after my penis enlarging surgery

>>55771921
>joao
>woman
OH NO

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I've been collecting physical for a while and found these while cleaning. I hope they can make someone happy. Have a nice day!

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>>55772019
Picked up a few, thanks for posting

>>55771927
Based Brazilian casters used him/he/his when talking about him.
Brazilian casters>NA/EU casters

Charizard wins lol

>>55772970
Charizard also loses. It's a mirror match. Welcome to the meta.

>>55773030
>Haha, I got to 330 first. You lose.

Charizard has won 5/6 tournaments so far this format!

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>>55773242
Miss me yet?

What's the best plan for Gardevoir vs ancient box and Zard?

>>55773321
no I miss Gardevoir

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>>55773242
MAKE HIM GOOD AGAIN GODDAMIT

>>55773678
Fluttermane ex and iron jugulis ex will save ancient and future. TRUST THE PLAN

finally got rimbombee to work and it was really funny

>>55773678
It's alright with dunsparce but it's just not as good as before still.

>>55760165
why 3 retreat when scolipede is a fairly fast mon

Radiant Greninja should have been:
>120HP
>80dmg
>2 retreat
Would have been a great staple instead of the format warping card it currently is.

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>>55774160
All of the previous Scolipede cards have 3 or 4 except for one.
https://limitlesstcg.com/cards?q=name%3AScolipede

>>55774989
Hang tight. We only got Stellar Charizard ex and both his Mega forms to go in the Scarlet Violet era.

>>55775080
>both
>he doesn't know

>>55774800
That's weird. I always thought that retreat cost was supposed to represent speed.

>>55775364
i think it represents weight, most metal and bigass mons have 3 or 4

If I wanted to grind to master ball rank, is Charizard the best deck to do it mindlessly

>>55775467
probably

>>55775080
don't forget tera dragon charizard in the upcoming special dragon set! that one will have no weakness and 330 HP, truly unkillable

>>55775544
>330HP
I don't think so hun, it won't be OHKO'd by darkzard

>>55775544
Fuck man, that's actually a good idea to sell the set
Hydrapple and Archaludon aren't nearly as marketable
Hope they do tera dragon Gyarados instead

>>55775578
actually dark charizard can hit 330 if you've taken 5 prizes! if they kill 1 charmander you will eventually be able to ohko them!

>>55775648
what I meant was they won't make it with 330HP, it will be at least 340

>>55776305
Imagine if they made a shiny card for Gholdengo

Seeing these dragapult showcases it really does seem to shit on charizard, they just can't deal with that much spread into devo. Even with multiple mist energy it's not saving the bench, they might have to run rabsca now and hope it doesn't get donked

>>55776444
links?

Dangit the bug where tcg live doesn't launch is affecting me

>>55776458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yok8LiMgMLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrSTUJX2Hg

>>55776465
The 10011 error? Seems to be affecting a lot of people right now don't worry

>>55776465
It opened for me but I couldn't edit or load a deck to play

>>55776444
>>55776478
The 70 HP charmander will become the optimal one again. That would make it a bit more difficult to set up a good devo

TCGL client having an omega-level meltdown rn. How do they manage to fuck this up so badly?

>Live
LMAO!

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bros...

>>55776644
SOVL

>>55776644
>PTCGO
pokemon trading card game's offline

>>55776478
>Need to bench 3 Charmander
>TM Devo turn wrecks you
>Can't OHKO
>Hand disruption doesn't work
The Zard gameplan for this matchup is to cope by attaching Mist Energy to Pidgeot and get down to two prizes before losing.

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>tfw no cutie to abuse until she fears you because you can't log onto the online client of a children's card game

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>>55776683
We, the pokemon company hear your concerns, and will be reintroducing the fairy type to deal with this new dragon menace. Our sincerest apologies for this moment of apparent charizard weakness.

>>55776683
With the 70 HP charmanders you could get away with 2 turn 1, at least 1 will survive there on the bench with 10 HP. Later on if they have alakazam though they can get around that and take down all your board with a devo

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>design team meeting
>As long as this Pokémon is in the Active Spot, your opponent’s Pokémon in play that have any damage counters on them have no Abilities.
>"I think this should be a good deck. Strong, but conditional."
>"We're releasing Charizard next set. You're going to have to change it."
>"Oh, okay..."
>As long as this Pokémon is in the Active Spot, your opponent’s Pokémon in play that have any damage counters on them have no Abilities, except for Pokémon ex.

>>55777920
This thing would've been monumental if it weren't for that stupid ex qualifier. Now it, at best, makes your opponent's bibarel engine stop working for one turn before it gets killed.

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Miss me yet bitch?

fuck anyone that uses charizard ex, you fucks cant even play the deck right but it still slows me down so fuck you

>>55778548
honestly yeah, stadium wars were fun. now all the powerful decks can just put more consistency in their decks instead of stadium counters
iron thorns is absolute trash and because that exists now I doubt we're getting any other ability locking printed

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I've been thinking, what's the ruling with rare candy if the other player genuinely doesn't know if the stage 2 evolves from the basic on the field? A lot of decks don't even run the stage 1 so it's not like you can always show them the evo line. Do you ask the other guy to just google it? I know it's usually obvious from how they look but this keeps me up at night sometimes.

>>55778684
The rules don't change to accommodate player incompetence, so I don't see how this is even a question. It'd be like asking if I can evolve on the first turn because I wasn't paying attention and didn't realise it was still the first turn.

>>55778684
what are you even asking? if a noob tries to evolve bulbasaur into sceptile with rare candy?
evo poke have a little icon showing the poke they evolve from

>>55778729
>The rules don't change to accommodate player incompetence
They actually did change an evolution knowledge rule recently

>== SALVATORE (SV:Temporal Forces)
>Q. Can I use Salvatore to search my deck for a card that is not legal for play in the current tournament format? For example in a Standard format tournament, could I use Salvatore on a Raichu to search for Raichu BREAK?
>A. No. A card has to be legal for play in the designated tournament format in order to be searched for by Salvatore

>>55778684
Are you assuming there's someone playing the tcg who's so clueless that they don't know basic information like a Pokemon's evolution line?
>How am I supposed to know Charmander evolves into Charizard?
No one is that retarded.

>>55776305
its fucking incredible they reprinted this card like 4 fucking times now and the only thing different is the art

>>55778797
That's a stupid example. Raichu Break couldn't be in the deck in the first place if it's a standard tournament.

>>55778780
>>55778813
It's a valid argument for new players that don't know their Pokemon.

>>55778780
>evo poke have a little icon showing the poke they evolve from
I think that's the point he's trying to make. You can see Sceptile evolves from Grovyle but there's no link from Bulbasaur to the stage 1 if there's no physical copy of it in play.

Any of you play the glc format? I dont really have much interest in the standard format but I like playing glc games. Its such a pain in the butt to find in person games though.

>>55778834
It's not. The vast majority of people playing this game play it because they already like Pokemon. Again, no one is going to be like
>Oh, you mean Larvitar evolves into Tyranitar?? Gee whiz, I didn't know that. I would've never guessed from the similar naming and color scheme.

>>55778884
What about little Timmy that only got into Pokemon from Scarlet and Violet and doesn't know that Dratini evolves to Dragonite?

>>55778980
He can go fuck himself. Fucking scrub

>>55778980
you read my mind and I was too lazy to post it but you asked so here it goes
if little timmy too retarded too realize his little dratini evolves into the dragonair in the little picture then he shouldn't be playing poke

>>55779004
apparently I can't write, that makes me a little retarded I guess

>>55778828
It was still a legal interaction for the past two generations.

>Can I use Wally or Evosoda to search my deck for a card that is not in the current tournament format? For example, could I use it on Raichu to search for a Raichu BREAK after it rotates out?
>Yes, you can. Even though a card may not be in the tournament format it still exists and can be searched for even though it is known to fail.
>Source: TPCi Rules Team (2018-07-26)

Went 4-0 with Gardevoir at locals today, beat 2 Zards with it too

Why do Zard players take such long turns its unreal

>>55779064
Congrats
>Why do Zard players take such long turns
Our brains aren't that developed, please understand

>>55779064
>Why do Zard players take such long turns its unreal
Because it's not as easy as people make it out to be. Charizard itself may be braindead, but the rest of the deck requires thought. With Pidgeot, there's more to consider than just what's in your hand.

>>55779136
>but the rest of the deck requires thought
I guess I'm a genius if I'm playing lost box then. I'll work hard on finding a cure to cancer

>>55779136
>do I uhhhhhh Boss's orders or uhhhhhhhh counter catch or uhhhhhhhhhhh

>>55779064
do people actually go to locals? i dont think ive been to a card shop tourney since i was 12

>>55779286
>do people actually go to locals?
Yeah, I actually touch grass and play with real people...

>>55779286
No. It's all collective hallucination

>>55779290
>>55779292
found a card shop that plays pokemon twice a week & magic 4 FUCKING TIMES A WEEK???

also i would play offline but am poor

>>55779294
>but am poor
gard and ancient box are cheap

>>55779294
>poor
I'm poor af, but I still go to my 2 leagues and fucking play mons on the weekends. skill issue

>>55779304
>>55779309
idk what either of those are ive only been playing tcg live also for the first time in 10 years

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>Chien Faggot always has a way to find the Superior

sorry I didn't want to play zard like a tard. I'll go back to zrd then...

>>55779340
Send them to shadow realm

>>55779136
kek

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Anyone want some codes?
I have a lot of Pladean Fates but I have a bunch of other random codes as well.
Lost Origin, Crown Zenith, Pokemon Go, might have a couple Evolving Skies and some other stuff.

YDMYRLY4LNCQD - Temporal Forces

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>>55779788
thanks

Got a bug where energy retrieval just didn't work and didn't put the energy into my hand
Guess I just won't be used my gholdengo deck until a new patch

>>55779859
No problem, nice pull with the masterball.

That was my only TF code since I don’t really like the set much overall so I’ve only bought like 4 or 5 boosters total but I redeemed those other codes. I just have extra of older sets now.

>>55779860
That happened to me awhile back as well.

>>55779876
itll def help since im just getting back into pokemon

>>55779882
Can’t remember for sure but I think these codes will give you crystals if you redeem them.

D4D6XBWPYKJZC
29PH2BBPWQCMJ
KNWBKYYPJ4YWT

It’s the Mimikyu Showcase 3 packs.
It’s where I got the couple evolving sky codes I have as well.

so i pulled out ALL of my pokemon cards and got a total of 972 cards & idk what to do with them

>>55779936
Sell it in bulk on Facebook groups/marketplace

>>55779946
i think some of these go back to gen 4 sets

>>55779286
My locals in the middle of butt fuck midwest gets like 16 people a week right now

>>55780040
im sold, i just need to get a deck that i can use

>>55780071
Gardevoir box that just came out is like 85% the way there except needs more cheapo supporters.

Also walk in to your locals day and see the turn out/crowd and decide from there first

>>55780087
yeah i was thinkin of just going up there and checking out how it is

>>55778980
>>55778992
>>55779004
>>55779008
>lil timmy: wtf anon, you cant evolve drah-tiny into dragoneet! JUDGE!!!
>judge comes over and explains
>lil timmy throws a tantrum and his menacing father comes into the picture

What do

>>55780429
Politely ask both to leave
>doesn't work
Shoot the father and sell lil timmy's organs

>>55780434
>not selling
cook em and feed em to rich snobs

>>55778884
Operating under the assumption that every player knows every evolution line is weird, and would be absolutely ridiculous in any game that wasn't based on the most popular IP in the world. Most players worth their salt will know most of the evos, but on paper rare candy should be a nightmare.

except genwunners

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>>55780480
easily fixed if they brought this back

>>55780557
Eevee moment

>>55780595
>>55780609
fuck
i mean it's possible but imagine that clutter

>>55778797
>>55779011
>yes but actually no officially becomes just no
This is just playing semantics. Whether you could search for the card or not doesn't matter. You still couldn't use the card you were searching for, and in rare candy's case, you still wouldn't be able to evolve.

>>55780763
I'd get it if you had to declare a card to search for before going through the deck, this would actually cause many searches to fail. I guess it would work to declare a rotated card if you want the search to fail, but that's retarded as you can do that anyways with any card

>>55780480
It's more that there's less than 50k actual players of Pokemon TCG. The rest are collectoors that don't care.
I can see someone being confused by stuff like Politoed, but even Politoed says that it evolves from Poliwhirl.

Gigantamax Mega stellar Mew ex VSTAR AXYZ

Ability Genetic Scramble
If this Pokémon has two or more Energy cards attached with the same name, it cannot attack.

VSTAR Power
>[C][C][C][C][C] Genesis
You can only use this attack if this Pokemon has at least 1 Energy card that provides every type of Energy but only one at a time, and at least 1 Energy card that provides 2 [C] at once. Choose any attack in the Pokemon TCG and use it as this attack. Ignore all effects in play on your opponent or their pokemon. Don't apply Weakness and Resistance.

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>>55780818
The point is with wally / evosoda / tm evo / salvatore is that the target pokemon in play is capable of evolving before you get to enter the deck. You're never declaring the exact card you searching for (ie. which eeveelution for evolving an eevee)
>you can do that anyways with any card
You don't get to play cards that are guaranteed to fail (draw/search card with 0 cards in deck, elesa's sparkle with 4 fusion energy accounted for, enhanced hammer with no special energy in play)

A funny side effect after next rotation will be making it illegal to target Tangela because no Tangrowth will exist in standard.

>>55781027
Are you considered aware of every card in your deck after you search through it once? Stuff that targets your discard can't be used if there's no valid targets, but you can check your discard before using it, or at any time. Why would you ever declare what you're looking for in your deck before searching?

>>55781202
You wouldn't, your deck is always considered private knowledge. The only reason Elesa could be illegal to play is because both players know there can only ever be 4 Fusion Strike Energy.

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>>55781417
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>>55776715