Why do Pokemonkillers keep dying? I'm having a hard time believing it's entirely because of Pokemon's strong brand value. If anything, wouldn't Pokemon actually HELP the Pokemonkillers as no one would bother to play those games without the feeling of being "Pokemon but better"?
>>55786488Why do Palworld and other Monster-collecting games live rent-free in Pokefan's heads?
>>55786488Appealing to DSfags who hate modern pokemon isn't a good form of income.
>>55786488Scarlet and Violet are just better, that is all.
>>55786488Let me guess most of those aren't even playing Scarlet and Violet
>>55786496Stop Shilling FOTM Slop as "The Next Big Thing".It's getting embarrassing.
>>55786496>Palfag crying that his FOTM is already deadLel
Only temtem and palworld did that. The others like monster sanctuary,nexomon etc didn't promote themselves as pokemon killers.
>>55786496Fpbp.If palworld is so dead why are these old men yelling at clouds still talking about it?I came here for pokémon memes and all I see is insecure men children who feel cucked by a video game.
>>55786529>>55786539answer the question >>55786549iirc only journalists called those two "pokemon killers". and Palworld's gameplay doesn't even resemble pokemon's.
>>55786488Wow its almost like pokémon is a more famous, well-stabilished game franchise than palworld? Crazy, I know.
>>55786567It's almost like journalism media will blow everything out of proportion for more traffick and attention.Like how nintendo said they were gonna investigate palworld and that didn't lead to shit? It was just a statement to calm down these retards that keep whining about a game inspired on something they like. It's pathetic.
>>55786488You're not seeing the whole picture. Games are just one slice of the pie when it comes to Pokemon. It's a whole multimedia empire.
>>55786567>only journalists called those two "pokemon killers"Holy cope.
>>55786681Post 1 (ONE) example of a Temtem or Palworld dev saying that they made their game with the intent of replacing Pokemon
>>55786488I was a person who was promoting palworld as a pokekiller but honestly it does have some issuesmy biggest issue is that you dont even use the pals in combat, with some exceptionsYour main source of damage is your gun while you cant play as the palsI have an idea for a monster collection game that you can play as the monsters AND it isnt turn based combat, pic rel is how i imagine the gameplaybut these are only daydreams as im a lazy depressed neet
>>55786488I know that this thread was just made for shitposting but I'll give a serious answer anyways. In my friend group about half of us got really into palworld and every one was both A) A disgruntled pokemon fan who mainly plays romhacks and B) the type of person that played FOTM survival games. For this demographic Palworld was a perfect storm and they played obsessively until they had captured most or all pals, and exhausted a lot of the survival gameplay. All of them are back to playing romhacks now. I think this is a big part of why pokemon killers fail in current year. They are not just competing against official pokemon, they also compete against free pokemon games, many of which fix the grievances a disgruntled player has. Pokemon is as entrenched as GTA is, and while some GTA clones have been successful in the past, their franchise and studios eventually die while Rockstar and GTA are immortal.
Dunno about others but Palworld "died" because pic related. In short:>everything that Palworld does better than Pokemon is usually experienced on the very first playthrough>the grindy gameplay loop makes replaying it a bigger hassle>the combat is mostly a one-dimensional dodge&counterattack loop with little depth>the human bosses are little more than level gates in practice, and unfun ones at thatBasically imagine if gym leaders and E4 in Pokemon were both harder and less fun to beat than completing the pokedex. Makes sense why people nope'd the fuck out after exploring the world and capturing and trying out all the pals they could get a hold of. There also isn't and most likely never will be an equivalent of Pokemon's multiplayer to draw and keep comp crowd.That said, 2% of the supposed 25mil buyers - so about 500k - returning for the April update that was literally just 1 (one) mon is a relatively good sign for a medium-sized franchise. If the devs manage fix the game's flaws or at least double down on its strengths, they might be able to push out a few DLCs and later sequels. But it never did and never will have any chance of replacing Pokemon. More of yet another sideline like Digimon, MonHun or Yokai Watch.
>>55786580That doesn't explain why Palworld is dead. Just that Pokemon is alive
"pokémon killer" is retarded language used exclusively by people not alive, or old enough to be cognizant during the late 90s
The so called pokemon killer is still in early access, it has no story and is just another run of the mill survival craft soulless game. They need to copy more stuff from pokemon to kill it.
>>55786488>2010>/vp/ had over 5k concurrent users>threads were rapidly produced, and everyone was talking about it>2024>you can spend literal minutes waiting for someone to respond in a thread>generals for /vp/ take days to reach the bump limit>Others could take weeks to get bumped off of page 10, disregarding jannies forcibly removing them>threads can take upwards of a month to reach the bump limit if they don't get bumped off of page 10>/vp/ has its own collection of fags they know by their own distinctions, but they put up with them, and jannies do nothing about them for hours>"strong brand value"/vp/ doesn't have enough concurrent users to be a containment board at this point.
>>55787130https://4stats.io/There are way deader boards
>>55786488Well for one, Palworld is nothing like pokemon. The whole game is just about trying to better optimize your base.
>>55787164this is a cool siteare there any charts for gender?
>>55787130That's because yearly games were a thing back then, things were announced all the time.Pokemon hasn't gotten a single new game in 2 years, and we know nothing about the next one.
>>55787277No, but I do remember someone doing a "study" in the early 2010s. The results were pretty much exactly what you'd expect. I think /co/ was the biggest board that had a noticeable population of women. /cgl/ and the guy porn boards were mostly women.
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>>55787293what about /u/?
>>55787164>https://4stats.io/Fascinating. This place is dead as fuck.
>>55787130Nostalgia.
>>55786488This goes to show that the top isn't a result, it's a concept. If the top is either Pokémon or the Pokémon killer, it means that the top is defined by Pokémon in one way or another and the first thing people will think of will still be Pokémon, even if some other game were to "dethrone" it. This whole controversy, like many others before, was entirely pointless, especially considering Palworld devs couldn't even design their own critters, the whole project is derivative by nature and they'll probably do it again if a theoretical Palworld 2 were to be released..
>>55787015It explains it perfectly. Its been around for a long, still has a strong presence in the popular culture thanks to pokemon go and has monopolized a fanbase of dedicated nostalgic manchild too autistic to adapt or accept any semblance of change so they'll still play the same gameplay loop for decades. While palworld was mostly played by normies who are busy enjoying a variety of games instead of watching someone else plays them on twitch.
People don't want an alternative, they just want Pokémon to be better, though it seems like people hating it are the minority considering the sales keep improving and the TCG is doing better than ever. You can't dethrone something most people have no issues with.
>>55786500Palworld doesn't have natdex or PWT
>>55787015Palworld isn't dead. Not every game can be played continuously. How many people are playing Let's Go right now? Heck it maybe ahead of SV.
>>55787555Most people have no issues with anything, because they don't think or form opinions independently. But they vote and spend money
>>55786496/thread
>>55786567it's the usual thenjournos are pretty much in the same territory as shithead clickbait youtubers who desperately want people to click on their low quality garbage videoswhat better way than to be a controversial smartass who is intentionally getting things wrong so that people will (you) them through views
>>55787130pokefags dont even stay here most of the time/v/ is often invaded by retarded pedophile manchildren making low quality pedoshit/furshit threads
>>55787811Cope post.
nintychads and pokechads won
>>55787811Palworld is a "live service", those are meant to be played continually
>>55786488lol remember when people were pretending this was the most popular game of all time a few months ago
I guaran-fucking-TEE you that people who bought Palworld because they hate Pokemon's direction/wanted to make some "statement" versus those who bought it because they saw a streamer play it or it's the funny "pokemon with guns" game is like 1:99.
>>55788133so what? let us suffer friends snow lol!> or dangerfriends cuck or we go weather sus bros lol kek also random sus cause like 'bruh susus lol hey we dont always do sus conversations so lets sus these bruhs lol
>>55787310that's for loser males
>>55786488because they have nothing else to offer except being "pokemon but better"
>ITT: retards don’t realize pokemon games are also fotm and no one cares about SV anymore
>>55786488hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahoh my god that was the most astroturfed thing in history, how much did they pay critikal to play that shit for three seperate streams
palslop went silent after peakémon presents
>>55790201As peakmon did as well. Only a trailer and a symbol.FOR ONE YEAR.That surely will last.
>>55790039>PEOPLE STILL PLAY SV UNLIKE YOUR PAL SLOPHonestly this is the mentality most people have anymore and it irritates me that they feel that hyperfixating on one game/brand makes it better than others.Like Jesus fucking Christ do they not get that they are being played for fools with all the FOMO bullshit Game Freak has been putting in the games since SwSh? Raids have only been the way they are simply because it keeps people hooked when there is fuck all to really do.
>>55786500>Appealing to DSchads who hate modern pokemon isn't a go-ACK!
>>55787999Invaded? Do you even use /v/? You faggots are always slobbering over little girls that appear in videogames. Get some self awareness.
>>55790298Pokemon is constantly putting out new content, it has other stuff to bridge the gap between games
>>55790413>even the content update's not blowing up the player numbersits really over
>20k chinese bot farmerskek nice game
>>55786488Don't think Twitch is a good measuring tool when Pokemon streamers use whatever the new game is when they're streaming any Pokemon game.
>>55786488The thing about Pokemon is that it is super casual. Like, so casual that the chances you are talking to the average Pokemon fan on the internet are so little because the average fan is actually a normalfag that isn't staring at a computer screen all day.Every single "pokemon killer", pokemon inspired game or even just a general monster collecting game appeals more to the kind of person you'll run into online who actually wants to engage with a game and it tricks people into thinking the games are more impactful than they actually are - when in truth half the fucking audience probably isn't even aware these games exist or drop the games because of some form of difficulty present within the games. There will never be a pokemon killer because, by its very nature, pokemon will never have competition in the market that actually matters.
>>55786488It sold 18.5 million units on Steam alone in 4 months and Early Access, more than Pokemon DP's life time sales as a full retail game. Include Gamepass and only Gen 1 surpasses it.>b-but muh player counts! muh twitch viewsPokemon has and is primarily a PvP game.
>>55786881Only 2% of people were playing the new content?
>>55790453the content update isn't till the summer.......
Crazy that we live in an era where the success of a game is measured by how many people watch other people play it
>>55787999>/v/ invaded by /vp/funny, sometimes it looks like it's the other way around
>>55791217Pokemon Scarlet and Violet did 25 million physically alone and is still selling, and players on Steam aren't unit sales, which is physical and digital.
>>55791280>Wait until all neefags stay homeClever men...
>>55788150It's a single player game. You catch all the Pals and then you put it down. Maybe once they add PvP it will become a live service game, right now it's one and done.
>>55786529slop slop slop mid AF fr fr no cap :skull:
>>55791374>The games are the most pre-ordered games in the series' history.[7] They sold over 10 million units in their launch weekend, which is the highest for any Nintendo game in this time frame.[8] As of December 31, 2022, Pokémon Scarlet and Violet have sold 20.61 million copies worldwide, the highest for a Nintendo game in its launch quarter.[9] In the fiscal year of their release, the games sold 22.10 million copies worldwide, the highest for a Nintendo game in its first fiscal year. As of December 31, 2023, the games have sold 24.36 million copies worldwide, making these the third best selling Pokémon games of all timePalworld sold more despite not being half a year old
>>55792284And yet it lost most of its players since then.
>>55787805palworld doesnt have all the pals in it?
>>55792292So did Pokemon SV and every Pokemon game for that matter.Only compfags and breeder cucks still play the game, and that’s also will having DLC, PvP, and events.
Palworld was never a competitor, it's not even in the same genre
>>55787164no wonder every thread feels like the same three schizos arguing with each other. that's literally what this board is now.
>>55786580>Wow its almost likestopped reading there
Palworld was good game but it offers literally nothing for a long run, pokemon is simply better and has more to offer
>>55786566>I came here for pokémon memesAnd that's how I know you are a falseflagger.btw Palworld isn't all that bad imho it has an interesting concept and would have worked better as a deconstruction and commentary on big IP franchises and monster collectingm but instead it plays its tropes straight, you can behave like the worst slaver and poacher without consequences your pals still loves you, and it did a loud and obnoxious marketing campaign "Pokeymans with guns lmao".The cryptobro CEO is gonna kill Palworld before it even becomes a thing
>>55786488In the case of Palworld itself, it's a survival crafting game first, a "Pokemon" game second, and there's not a lot of content updates yet. The PVP arena and new island should help.As for Pokemon "killers" in general, most just suck, and even the good ones "aren't Pokemon" so they flop. No Pikachu, no nostalgia, no exact 1:1 copy of the types and matchups, no Gyms, Gym Leaders, or League.Definitely reminds me of the distaste for Pokemon BW.The idea of BBND lives within us all, and having a gen entirely focused wholly on new Pokemon ended up turning off a lot of people (I liked it.), and obviously they backtracked on it quickly until the Switch gens where they doubled down for some reason.Hell, it isn't even a Game Freak thing, Pokemon fans gobble down Pokecock by the mile, yet all of GF's other games flop catastrophically and it's rare to find a Pokemon fan who A) knows what GF is and B) actually buys other GF games.TL;DR: a huge chunk of Pokemon fans are literally literally in a cult and will continue to buy the games/merch even if one gen ends up slinging racial slurs and NPCs burn various pride flags, so long as it's marketed as a Pokemon game and features marketable plushie designs + Pikachu.
>>55790453>content update>one (1) new Pal>an endgame raid bossBro, the content updates aren't until later in the year.
>>55786488People who don’t play pokemon actually play other games, instead of replaying the same game with weird, arbitrary rules
I like palworldgood game, I hope for many updates
