This Pokemon was never racist, feel like America was just being cynical at Pokémon at the time
much sexier than most rbgy girls
>>55844210appropriation of japanese culture>verification not required
>>55844210Literally only one person complained about Jynx, pic related is her.
The woman who complained about Jynx also complained about Mr. Popo from Dragon Ball
>>55844210its resemblance to anti black racist caricatures is undeniable, but i dont think gamefreak was racistin my opinion, giving them the benefit of the doubt, they simply copied trope designs from japanese media, which in turn was based on american cartoons, but context was lost in translation and gamefreak didnt know what they were doing anti pokmon '90s hysteria was real, and it was in a wave of cable news fear mongering about rock and rap music, video games, harry potter, and anything kids were in to
>>55844369>blackface shit being relevant outside muttricaYou're a retard.
>>55844377read the post dumbass
>>55844369>Muh ethnocentricismBRO IS THAT BLACKFACE?!
>>55844377>>55844418oh its you, the troll poster who says stupid shit to bait argumentsget a better hobby
>>55844210GF just had to double down and show the Americans the yokai that inspired Jynx
>>55844210She's a shadow banned Pokémon now sadly
>>55844210I prefer to think that GF knew exactly what they were doing, and did it anyway. It's not Jynx's fault Nicki Minaj appropriated her.
Racist or not, it's a fucking awful looking pokemon regardless and no kid liked the fucking thing.
>>55844210funny coming from a country of white pedophilic prostitutes and the niggers that encourage them by using them for AIDS sex
>>55845290the crazy thing is that in '96 gamefreak thought a furry tiger wouldnt make a good pokemon design, and 25 years later they changed their minds
>>55845261yeah these retards are acting like there arent nigger pokemon in generation 5 inspired by criminals and american wack faggottina gangs, ehm i mean gay clubsApart from satanic pokemon and golems there arent enough pokemon making fun of whites though. but they arent making a prostitute pokemon megalopunny was already too white for my taste
>>55845301In fact you have to consider the fact furry starters come 100% from western american influence. But at least it's not a tranny prostitute with boobs, it's just a retarded american cereal mascotte
>>55845311I dunno. Gardevoir is white as they come, and easily in the top 5 most sexualized Pokémon. Mr. Mime is white and a kiddie diddler.
>>55844377Sambo was HUGE outside of the US, ESPECIALLY in JapanYou have no idea what you are talking about, he's a marketing icon over there to this very dayWikipedia has a lengthy article about this>The book is beloved in Japan and is not widely considered controversial there. Little Black Sambo (ちびくろサンボ, Chibikuro Sanbo) was first published in Japan by Iwanami Shoten Publishing in 1953. The book was an unlicensed version of the original, and it contained drawings by Frank Dobias that had appeared in a U.S. edition published by Macmillan Publishers in 1927. Sambo was illustrated as an African boy rather than an Indian boy. Although it did not contain Bannerman's original illustrations, this book was long mistaken for the original version in Japan. It sold over 1,000,000 copies before it was removed from shelves in 1988, when The Association to Stop Racism Against Blacks launched a complaint against all major publishers in Japan that published variations of the story, which, in turn, triggered self-censorship among those publishers.[8][9] In 2005, after copyright of the 1953 Iwanami Shoten Publishing edition of the book expired, Zuiunsya reprinted the original version and sold more than 150,000 copies within five months' time, and Kodansha and Shogakukan, the two largest publishers in Japan, published official editions. These are still in print, and as of August 2011, an equally controversial "side story" for Little Black Sambo, called Ufu and Mufu, is being sold and merchandised in Japan. The reprinting caused criticism from media outside Japan, such as the Los Angeles Times.
>>55845336Gardevoir looks like a japanese female to me.
>>55845382Only because her in game model has 0 curves like one.
>>55845344The Japanese really know how to hate blacks, though. They're openly encouraged to do so. Which is funny as fuck.
>>55844210Not teh first time it happened
>>55844446Mr Popo is a mix between a djinn and Mahakala you dumb mutt.
>>55845593I'm happy I know this exists.
>>55845611i updated the image i made, what i like about you is that even though you are aggressive and confrontational, you are also dumb which makes it easy to get satisfying layups
>What kind of country would depict their niggers like that? Japan is so shameful! Americans would never do that!Jynx is cool. Braindead amerimutts can't deal with their own morally bankrupt culture and assume every other nation is just as fucked up as they are.
>>55845715Even barring the controversy, Jynx is just a design that hasn't aged well. It was already dated by the 2000s and it's extremely dated today.
>>55845753It's basic as fuck with no features to enhance along the way. It doesn't matter what gen it's from, jynx is always going to look like Grimmace in drag.
Nigs and leftists are super sensitive and will cry over the slightest thing
>>55845753>The exact same face as tangela>But the lips make her a niggerJynx is the best designed pokemon wearing clothes
>>55845917Literally no one complained about Jynx except one person.
>>55845933Tangela was never meant to have a face. The black was meant to be shadows hiding what it looks like underneath the vines, not a literal black body.
>>55845961>Tangela was never meant to have a face.Jynx used to be the same. Her hands weren't black like her face, so it always translated to me that its face was shrouded in shadow but her big kissy lips poked through.
>>55845946There you go she cried over the slightest thing. She did the same with Mr popo
>>55844446>Everyone that disagrees with me is one person.
>>55845278I actually really like Jynx in hindsight. One of the best Gen 1 designs in both how much of a cultural deep cut it is and in how it manages to marry the design philosophies of Psychic and Ice types in Gen 1 so perfectly. Helps that it's genuinely a really fun Pokemon to use and my favorite lead in Gen 1 pvp.I just think it's a shame they censored her, black made the face look more like a void (like Tangela's eye slots) while the purple just looks like skin.
>>55844418>pajeetI can smell you from here. Go eat some cow shit, poonigger
>>55846281>"Umm Jynx is actually kind of racist chud">Proceeds to post racist comments against people he doesn't like.Liberals.
>>55845278Idk, as a kid I found it creepy-looking but not a bad way. I appreciated how weird it was.
>>55845753>ummmmmmmm yikes this didn't age wellFuck off.
>>55846303Nobody likes indians because they eat shit and are covered in shit 24/7. Everyone hates pajeets, everyone
>>55846382Sometimes things really don't age well. Things don't always measure up to modern standards.
You are now aware of the weird side spikes on Jynx's dress that have existed there since gen 4, when the sprite's depth was misinterpreted, and these spikes exist on the modern 3D models too.
>could be paired in a trio with Elecatbuzz and Magmar in debut generation>Gen 4 where numerous gen 1 one stage mons got evos>only one not to was JynxMr Mine got an evo before her
>>55844452Source on this animation? not comming up with anything
>>55846649>Boober>Eleboo>RoguelaThey were never a trio
>>55846661It's from an episode of Manga Nippon Mukashi Banashi which was a popular kids show for Japanese folktales that ran from 1975-1995. The screenshots are from a 1991 episode about Yamauba, さば売りと山うば.
>>55844369It's strange as a Westerner I understand the offense, but if you travel to Japan you will see that they don't do it as an offense, they genuinely find these designs cute.I think the difference is that these designs were used as mockery in America and in Japan they are used for an aesthetic purpose.
>>55844210It never was racist. It was a specific Japanese fashion style that was popular at the time. There is lots of offshoots to this design as well including the style Jynx uses. It had nothing to do with black face.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GyaruIn this case, Jynx uses Ganguro.
>>55844369>>55847139Not sure about you two, but I live in a Black and Hispanic neighborhood in the US and I've seen statues with similar aesthetics around here. Jet black statues of Africans with big red lips that look like they came out of a minstrel show. I remember seeing one of a fat mammy a few months ago and the woman who owned it was like "yeah, I pray to that". It's so fucking confusing
>>55847279They're called blackamoors and have been a visual motif in European scultpure for centuries.
>>55844210>Pokémon_Jynx_(purple)_artCan you post the non-purple art?
>>55847350Forgot the link>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackamoor_(decorative_arts)
>>55847350Not even that honestly, that looks cool. The shit I'm seeing looks like this
Jynx looked best in gens 1-2.The sprites in gen 3-5 were awful for it.In 3D it's just ok
>>55847402Based on all the shit in the background and the comment that they "worship" that thing I think it must be a voodoo loa.
Will GF ever make a evolution or a mega out of this Pokemon, do they even care about this Pokemon anymore?
>>55847760I think they might have had the idea for a Jynx during Gen 4's evo during Gen 4's development, but retooled it into Froslass and made it an alternate evo of Snorunt.
>Never got an evolution with its siblings>Forever forgotten save for when it pops up in a dex
>>55846649Strictly speaking Mr. Mime didn't get an evolution.Its retarded regional variant did.
>>55847810Anon Froslass looks nothing like Jynx, and frankly Yukinko > Yuki Onna makes more sense than the original Yukinko > Ice Ogre (?)
>>55846775>Lined up in the national dex, as were their babies>Learned the respective elemental punch of their primary types>Again, their babies were lined up together in the national dex, all pre-evos were babies to boot instead of just one or two>Represents a common elemental trio in video games/RPG's
>>55844210I have to agree. Though Americans aren't familiar with kogal and related trends in Japan, and were even less so back then. They are familiar with blackface though, and aside from the bleached blond hair Jynx checks all the boxes.
>>55844216Which ones, anon? Most of the girls in the gen 1 games are either sexy or cute.
>>55846552As a white American, none of the pajeets I've known do either of those things. Maybe it's just the ones in your head that you're thinking of.
>>55845278I was weirded out, I captured one, and that fear went away with a combination of Ice Beam, Ice Punch, and Psychic.She was a monster, and I love her for being that ghetto woman who's ready to throw down.
>>55844369>racist people use design trope>suddenly said design trope is considered off limits>Instead of trying to reclaim said trope with positive depictions thereby improving the amount of cool representation and making it less likely for assholes to weaponize said tropeI don't understand this
>>55847167they only got popularized right after gen 1 came out
>>55847139It has DQ Slime vibes
Look up who it was that actually made a big stink about Jynx, lmaoAMERICAN CULTURE REVOLVES AROUND...
This character looks like an extra from Shaka Zulu and yet was never controversial. Maybe he’s seen as the proverbial noble savage
>>55844210I agree. Just because it depicts a black person in a funny way doesn't mean it's racist
>>55847167>that was popular at the timethats not true, that fashion style was a decade after gen 1 what a strange lie to tell
>>55847167>>55848212>>55850110You guys do know the style was partially inspired by a yokai, right? Instead of getting caught up on when exactly the style showed up, focus on the yokai
>>55850422no it wasn't, its alt fashion based on scene and punk
>>55847167>log poster
>>55850443Both statements are true, it's based on scene alt-fashion and has partial inspiration from the yokai. The most extreme version Yamanba-style directly calling back to and being named after the yokai
>>55850110>a decade after gen 1wrong>>55850443>>55850483>scene and punkalso wrongi remember seeing girls like that in tokyo in 1998. they were just obsessed with spray tans and dyed hair. it started in hostess clubs and spread to school kids. don’t know if it started before 1996 though
>>55849156It had the black coloring because at the hardware limitations of the original Game boy
>>55844210I hate that they added those random spikes to her design. It was clearly not supposed to be spikes and just part of her dress folds or her dress sprawled out around her feet
>>55851611
I'm black and I like Jynx
>>55847760Maybe 20 years from now if we and Japan finally move on from America’s retardation
>>55852491What do you name your Jynx?
The game automatically nicknames the Jynx you obtain in Cerulean LOLA and that's not racist at all
>>55853410This is done to prevent you naming her NIGGER.
I'm gonna find a black woman and get her to dress up as Jynx for me.
>>55853244I don't nickname Pokémon anons
>>55853410Wonder if it's named after someone, like how Marcel the Mr. Mime is named after mime artist Marcel Marceau.
>>55844210Ameritards always think it's about them.Fucking brainrot of a country, can't wait for it to balcanize
>>55844369Popo is like Jinn/Demon thing and Jynx is a pocket monster aka not human despite having human like characteristics. Even Mr Mime is humanish but isn’t considered a white person. They made a smart move by changing her skin to purple to avoid any possible backlash
>>55854117Then why are people still consider her as racist
Has game freak confirmed Jynx's inspiration
>>55853561>This is done to prevent you naming her NIGGER.even more anti-racism>>55854101>Wonder if it's named after someone, like how Marcel the Mr. Mime is named after mime artist Marcel Marceau.I wouldn't know. If it is then it must be a something based off of the Yuki-onna
>>55854283
>>55854283Retarded people wanting to nitpick everything as offensive
>>55854101>>55854350The Cerulean Jynx was named Masako in the Japanese RB. Does anyone know any famous Masakos?
>>55854117look at the picture you are replying to, look at the faces of the characters
>>55854640Apparently Empress Masako is the empress of Japan.
She is a reference to deep south, Cajun voodoo priestesses
The anime using Jynx as Santa's elves didn't exactly help matters
>>55855058Jynx was their only option really. Santa needed an Ice type helper and the only others Ice types in Gen 1 either lived in the water or was a legendary. Not to mention Jynx was the only one of those options with hands.
>>55855058>>55855126Is this why they created Delibird?
So is Game Freak afraid of Jynx or what
>>55845593he looks angry
>>55847938>admitting to being American lets point at this faggot and laugh
>>55855126We need a new special, with all the new Ice types. It will be awesome.
>>55854283Black face was a thing here and it’s rooted in racism. People will associate things with what they know all the time even if there’s no connection. This happens within the fandom all the time with theories and shit. Jynx isn’t a racist design because it’s not meant to portray a black person. It just looks similar to what we deem as a racist here
>>55854354Pretty dumb comic. Even if things have transphobic/homophobic/racist themes it doesn’t make it bad by default. I remember when shows and movies were able to challenge a viewer without them needing to spoon feed people like they were babies.
>>55854354That PS4 must belong to someone else, she's looking down at the controller and tapping buttons with her index finger.
>>55854354I can't tell if this was actually done straight or if this is a parody. Either way, Stonetoss is always right about these "people"
>>55855058>Santa and his helper harem of JynxJapan's many cases of being ahead of time and no one gets it until much later
>>55858275If it falls into Poe's law, just accept the artist/speaker is a huge retard.
>>55858231I'm mostly talking about when they changes the purple people still calls it racist
>>55852491same here
>>55844210Nips don't like Jynx neither, she was a mistake
>>55844216fpbp
>>55845593Kekaroo
dick sucking lips
>>55850422This is especially noticeable when Smoochon is based on baby Kintaro, who was raised by a Yama Uba.
>>55855945Nope, actually. Delibird as the Santamon was already planned in 1997. Too bad the episode came out a year before GS did in 1999
>>55844210uts so based wym
>>55852491Me too
If Jynx was a modern Pokemon the way it is right now the woke brigade would start a crusade against TPC.
>>55865866the original design? yeah, no shit, there's no way it would get far into development without at least someone working on the game noticing the blackface resemblance. and doubling down wouldn't be a good lookthe purple design? people would just find it a really bizarre design and you'd get maybe five twitter users calling it a conspiracy against women, but I suppose five would have been more than enough to spam screencaps on /pol/ threads and push the narrative that were all triggered
>>55844355What an ugly fucking nigger
>gen 1 has Jynx and is reviled by the mainstream media to the point where the design has to be changed>gen 5 has Scrafty with saggy pants, mohawk, dark type, dex entries that imply gangster activity, and is classified as the hoodlum Pokemon, and it has little to no controversyBeing away from the prying eyes of the mainstream media was great for gen 5.
What bugs me about that whole controversy is Jynx's original design is only racist when you ignore its original Japanese origins and look at it through an exclusively American perspective, which is a pretty racist thing to do.
