Are they still the best to this day ?
>>56073050not really
>>56073050Game Freak went out of their way to powercreep the fuck out of them and refuse to ever give them a third of the basic shilling every other starter constantly gets, and yet despite all the bullcrap and neglect, Typhlosion is still among the more popular starters among normies (even more popular than the its new Hisuain form that was supposedly made to replace it if recent polls are too be believed) Gatr has a strong fanbase (and despite being among oldest starter in the franchise an by all rights should be unviable in ZU is actually currently on the stronger half of all starters due to nearly ever other starter except the newest ones getting BTFO by power creep), and even with all the Meganium BAD memes and LOL JOHTO HATES GRASS TYPERINOS, Meganium isn't even close to being the most hated starter (Chikorita's line managed to make it into the Top 30 of its region unlike the Tepig and Chespin's families who failed even that). So all things considered I'd say yes or at the very least in the upper third of all starter trios. Maybe if Game Freak would just get it through their threads that people like these fuckers so that maybe they'll be allowed to get some the same broken ass gimmicks that KANTOOOO's, HOENNN's and Nu-Gen starters get.
>>56073050they're the worst lmfaonext dumb question please
>>56073050>Nugen safe-edgy for ESG score >Cartoon animal >Obese shitmon
>>56073050Not when the Hoenn and Paldea starters exist
If TPC is going to push the the First Partner shit with the notion that these Pokemon are important, they better concede that it also applies to Meganium. They pretty much cucked themselves by doing this.
You just know they're going to skip giving Megas to them again in PLZA
Nope!! This one is!
>>56073050Only in bizarro world
>>56073512Multi-kek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!unlimited kek!
>>56073050never were, in any sense
>>56073095The problem with the Johto starters is that they're only liked by long-time fans, most of which like the Kanto starters more anyways. The majority of nu-fans are kids who prefer the newer starters as well as the Kanto starters due to them being heavily shilled.
>>56073050Feraligatr is attractive but I don't care for the other two.
>>56073544or maybe the johto starters are just poorly designed
>>56073050I love all of them.
>>56073050>meganium mogged by her pre-evos that were given more personality by the ashime>typhlosion co-opted by barafaggots, then redesigned and co-opted by hagfuckers>feraligatr just generally forgotten
>>56073050>My mom's sauropod>Charizard but badger>My dad's boyfriend's cartoon alligator
>>56073633feraligatr is the baramon you fucking retardtyphlosion is a forgotten and irrelevant copy of CHARIZARD
Typhlosion has literally the exact same stats as Zard.
>>56073688johtoniggers be like WHAT ABOUT THE SPECIAL STAT THOUGH (ignore the other stats and how charizard still has the same stats in gen 2 btw)
>>56073050Best starter trio is Gen 1 since unfortunately every Gen since then has had a shitter. >Meganium, and not because it's bad in-game supposedly>Sceptile - gets mugged by Grovyle, much cooler mon and also again the worst of its trio >Infernape, literally a fire nigger>Emboar, baramon and looks too tight, as in it would pop if I poked it with a needle>Everything is shit past this point
>>56073050Feraligatr could have been released in Gen 9, and people would have ripped it apart. Truly a design only nostalgia could love.
>>56073707Meganium is on its own level of turboshit.
>>56073708Feraligatr comes from a time when pocket monsters were more often monstrous. He's badass and threatening looking. Unlike the Gen 7-9 pride parade.
>>56073708HorseshitHe is the best croc
>>56073050the first two gens are the only gens with no bad starters
>>56073730>including nugen garbagelmao
Why do people like to vilify Meganium so much?If anything this enables Game Freak to treat it like shit even more.Thanks leddit.
>>56073760Because it's a girly green Barney dinosaur with down syndrome. If you like it so much, buy an official plush of it.
>>56073764>BarneyAny more buzzwords you care to share from your world salad?
>>56073772it's a quadruped so it's automatically garbage
How would you fix Meganium?
>>56073791copy venusaur's stats
>>56073790It's not like Game Freak's fucking lazy when it comes to quadruped Pokemon.Quadruped Pokemon matter too.>>56073791Leddit will say Meganium is unsalvageable like the NPCs they are so there's no point.
>>56073050Longer Pokemon goes on, the more I seem to like these guys>COOL AWESONE OWL ARCHER>FURRY CAT MAGICIAN >AWESOME DRUMMER MONKEYvs.>A turtle with a garden on its back.>A frog/dinosaur with a Rafflesia on its back.>A friendly flower dinosaur.
>>56073791Not every Pokémon needs to be some god-tier threat.Just give it quiver dance.
>>56073803>frog/dinosaur with a Rafflesia on its back.Venusaur is definitely a frog.
>>56073801Consider how broken Venusuar, meganium getting screwed over by game freak can’t be due to being quadruped
>>56073716>>56073724Skeledirge is better and more threatening since it breathes fire
>>56073821>what is gen 1 privilegeThat aside Game Freak is an incompetent hack and the franchise is full of wasted opportunities like how Terra Raid events are mainly for Pokemon that you can easily catch in the wild.For example you can catch a Chikorita, give it the Psychic Terra type, evolve it all the way to Meganium, and level it up to 100. The only difference is that it wouldn't have the "Unrivaled" mark. But really, this is only so that Little Timmy could get a dopamine hit by catching a Pokemon that could be caught in the wild but with a FOTM "quality" tacked onto it.Congratulations, you have a Charizard with the "Unrivaled" mark. You fell for the FOMO shit and caught a Pokemon that you could obtain in the wild as its base form but with a tacked on FOTM mark that holds no actual meaning other than to advertise that you got a dopamine hit from artificial scarcity.FOTM and FOMO shit are cancer and Game Freak would rather do this shit instead of fixing the shit they shit out.
>>56073050They look bland as fuck
>>56073499Meganium is exceptionally bad in every possible regard. Weak, frail, slow, no moves, bland design, no notable apinoff appearances, no good cards, no merch, its best anime battle was a draw against freaking Bulbasaur.
>>56074726>no notable apinoff appearancesNew Pokemon Snap doesn't count? Talk about moving the goalpost.>no movesYet a majority of the eeveelutions get wanked>no good cardsTCG faggotry being all about Charizard and Gardevoir>its best anime battle was a draw against freaking BulbasaurThe fucking joke of a glorified advertisement appealing to NPCs with the popularity contests as always. Pikachu vs. Meganium was horse shit just like the gonorrhea that was Dragonite vs. Aurorus.It's just shitty negroid nip bias against dinosaurs because leddit would throw a shit if the Pokemon they shit on won an anime battle. The Shitmon Cuckmunity is full of NPCs that follow the popular option.>Meganium is exceptionally bad in every possible regard. leddit circlejerk that enables Game Freak to treat it like shit even more. The cuckmunity is part of the problemm.This thread has been saged and bumped off of page so I can have the last word.