This game is objectively much worse than sword and shield.
>>56366995Agreed. The graphics in Gen 8 look polished. SV looks like it was made out of clay
>>56366995Disagreed. SV tried. Swooshie lied.
>>56366995.....................................................I agree...
>>56366995the only thing Swoshie is better is the framerate,
>>56366995The campaign is drastically better but everything else (graphics, character customization, breeding, QoL, postgame facilities) is worse
how many more genwar threads until you get banned
>>56367015SWoShie had better mons, better battles, better characters, better mechanics
>>56367019swsh is legitimately the easiest game in the entire franchise besides lgpe and the entire story is retarded even by Pokemon's low standards, the only redeeming parts of the game are the DLC being kind of fun, and it having a battle tower
>>56367034>swsh is legitimately the easiest game in the entire franchise besides lgpebw/bw2 is easier than both
>>56367034>>56367049>this pokemon game is harder than that pokemon gameYou're both retards.
Which version should one get ? Scarlet or Violet?
>>56366995they're about the same in terms of quality. both terrible games>>56367226neither
>>56366995At being a bad game yeah, it is worse than Swshit since I actually played through SV and didn't drop it.
>>56367226Both
>>56367226Neither. If you absolutely have to consume the slop then just pick the cover legend you like more and then emulate the game
>>56367226Scarlet
>>56367273I am emulating the games, just having problem picking between armarouge and Ceruledge
>>56367299Inject the one you're missing
>>56367023HAHAHAHHABETTER CHARACTERS LMAOOOOO
>>56366995Gen 8 had the shittiest writing in the entire series, a feat for Pokemon. Gen 9 saw that writing team getting fired and replaced by people who actually knew how to write compelling characters and storylines. I prefer Gen 9 despite its other flaws.
>>56366995No it isn't.
>>56368729It is
>>56366995...lol no. SwSh had>N64 trees>"Quality Animations">"""""Open World"""""">easiest game after LGPE (which isn't even a main title)>progression is the most linear across all titles>started Dexit (tho would be a plus)>worst story across all games>Invisible Wall Simulator>released the most broken mons in VGC: Zacian, Zamazenta, Urshifu and Calyrex mounts>had the most broken gimmick (after Primals in ORAS)
>>56368822>>easiest game after LGPE (which isn't even a main title)bw/bw2 is easier than both
>>56368822based dubs of truth
>>56368830Actually, it isn't. Even XY was easier thanks to berry blends each one raising your levels by 5. But SwSh's level curve not only rivals that alone but also had the Exp Candies with the exp and amount dropped 6 fold compared to SV, this up to the point of being able to lvlup your team to 60 before the 1st gym.
Disagree. The overworld music is a lot better
>>56368857>Actually, it isn'tSS has the Hop Zacian fightLGPE has the gamblers with overleveled 1HKO movesBW/BW2 has literally nothing
>>56367226Scrimblo version
>>56368830>bw/bw2 was easier than bothfake and gay, Gen5 was a tumor on both level curve and only having access to shitmons while the good ones were locked under levels above 50 while all their xp growth rates were the same as fucking pseudosBW2 came to fix that at first, but opposing fully evolved Gen5 mons still dominate above the rest while the only good thing they gave was an early access to a low level Braviary at W2 and at least a Volcarona, however their xp growth rates were still a major problemif you still doubt about it, ask speedrunners and nuzlockers why they avoid both gen5 games, as well as why most casual players quit B/W upon reaching Driftveil
>>56366995They are the best mainline games since Emerald, actually.
>>56368631Yeah it's true. Marnie alone mogs any faggot from SV
>>56368638>Replaced by people who actually knew how to write compelling characters and storylinesKek why are SVfags so delusional.
>>56368950whats her personality
>>56368953Punk rocker with confidence issues.
>>56366995True. SwSh had>Better dex>Better music>Better battles>Better characters>Better DLC>Better customization>Not a buggy mess that always shits itself
>>56367299Ceruledge is genreally better in singles, armarouge is better in Duo
>>56367005SWSH's graphics are the worst in the franchise. They ridiculously increased the definition of characters and pokemon but dramatically lowered the definition of the scenarios, creating a very ugly and annoying effect. SV is more graphically harmonious.
>>56368950Literal who shit character
>>56368950go back to post BLACKED edits hebetroon
>>56367226Do you want generic caveman era Pokemon with mostly unique designs (Scarlet) or futuristic Pokemon whose designs are literally the Pokemon if it was a robot (Violet)? The choice is yours
>>56368999Checked
>>56368870>Hop has ZacianThe problem that it only has Zacian/Zamazenta, as the rest is a team full of shitmons. (and Zamazenta is easier)>Legpiss has overleveled OHKO master trainersThey're as overleveled as you can easily get, also you can kil them easily before they kill you. Not to mention that you can abuse typing matchups to be immune to the OHKO moves you're facing in the moment, rendering rhe whole OHKO team useless and easy.>BW and BW2 has nothingBW has N with Zekrom/Reshiram (and a somewhat solid team) FOLLOWED by Ghetsis with no room for off-battle healing. In BW1 Burgh and Drayden often filter casuals, but Clay hardfilters most like Whitney in GSC. BW2 has higher gym levels across the board and gives Clay access to sandstorm to abuse his Excadrill even further. Iris in BW2 has the third highest champion levels (before Kieran) in the franchise and coverage mons to backup her dragon team (not to mention that Fairies don't exist here yet). BW2 also introduced PWT, where both Red, Clay, Giovanni, Clair, Wallace, Blue and Cynthia are nearly impossible to beat in singles while the Subway warden duo are on the same boat at doubles in Battle Subway at the 48th encounter.
>>56368961>Better dex>Dexit made with a ton of shitmons struggling to be relevant with Dynamax???
>>56368730it isn't
>>56368961>Better charactersI don't know why faggots keep pushing this when in SWSH prime, Marnie and Gloria scissoring each other were like 95% of Galar's porn
>>56369017> as the rest is a team full of shitmons.As opposed to bw/bw2 where every team is 100% shitmons> They're as overleveled as you can easily getNope, it’s actually pretty hard to overlevel in LGPE unless you go out of your way to catch an excessive amount of Pokemon. Trainers barely give any exp.> BW has N with Zekrom/ReshiramBoth of which are incredibly weak compared to Zacian and are trivially wasy to beat with your regular team.> FOLLOWED by Ghetsis with no room for off-battle healingThe game heals for you.> BW2 has higher gym levels across the boardDoesn’t matter when you can easily be 10+ levels above the gyms at every point in the game.> Iris in BW2 has the third highest champion levelsDoesn’t matter when your Pokemon are 10+ levels higher than hers and she uses shitmons with no EVs.>BW2 also introduced PWTOne of the easiest battle facilities in the franchise because they cared more about nostalgia pandering than challenging gameplay, yes.
>SwSh is still 60 smackeroonies + DLCCouldn’t they shave a few bucks off now that it’s five years old?
Genwar thread
>>56369050>Doesn’t matter when you can easily be 10+ levels above the gyms at every point in the game.>defends a game where you can go lvl100 easily with candies at any pointlmao?
>>56366995
>>56369071In SS I need to go out of my way to grind raids for candies. In BW2 just playing normally gets you excessively overleveled.
>>56366995Discord thread
>>56369050>As opposed to bw/bw2 where every team is 100% shitmonsYou're comparing the likes of Excadrill, Hydreigon, Bisharp, Braviary, Volcarona, Archeops, Conkeldurr, etc to things like Cramorant and Pincurchin, Morpeko, Dreadnaw, Alcremie, etc is like night and day, anon
>>56366995It doesn't matter they both don't have national dex so they are automatically bottom tier.
>>56369088Most players even spend most of their time doing raids than doing the actual playthrough, if you avoid that then it's your problem. Also, at BW you overlevel your non-Gen5 mons, which are still weak to the fully-evolved gen5 ones you're facing even when overleveled. Also, BW1 is impossible to be the case due to almost every at least ok mon being locked behind an evolution past 50's while your opponets already having them as you have to also face your mon's growth rate at the exact same pace as a pseudo-legendary mon. Making it even harder to grind than GSC sans Red. To make things worse, those mons you need are only caught in mid-late game with some of them after getting Surf while others right around the last gym and victory road. This leaves you to pray yourself at the likes of the shitty options like the worst in starters in franchise, the shitty monkey trio, Lillipup, Sweadle, Tympole, Woobat and whatever hinders your playthrough nearby, with the only salvageable things being Drilbur and Sawk with the latter becoming a hindrance after 5th gym. BW1 is by far that lets you starving for good mons without question.
>>56366995Yes. I don't think you'll find any disagreement there outside of the argument that competitive is better, but competitive is the only aspect of the series that's consistently improved every gen, so at this point it's basically its own game. The single player campaigns keep getting worse, the competitive multiplayer keeps getting better.
>>56369088>In SS I need to go out of my way to grind raids for candieswtf are tou talking? you can even afk for them inthe mid of the battle while your friends sweep sweet fucking XL candies for you, retard!PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
>>56369179Can you type that again in english?
>>56369050>Both of which are incredibly weak compared to Zacian and are trivially wasy to beat with your regular team.>Legendary / shit starter / Stoutland / monke / Leavanny / Unfeasant>Ghetsis also ironically has a team made to counter both legendaries regardless which one you getkekaroo
>>56369187>ad hominem
>>56369215>red herring
>>56366995Only on performance issues. SwSh is worse on everything else, not to mention that it lied to us about the models, animations and open world.
>>56369225No it isnt.The models are new, the animations are better and they indeed had open world.
>>56368950>UUOOOHHH I CAN GOON TO HER SO SHE IS A GOOD CHARACTER Coomers are truly braindeadShe is literally the worst out of the three rivals by far, and that's impressive considering the other two suck too
>>56369238can you then defend this, in a Shield Version style, sir?https://youtu.be/ty5lUK-EM-A?si=x4KBknaJsgOTOzT2https://youtu.be/oPx0pCH5oh8?si=RMp3EPRve2oSejYj
>>56369238>shilling swoosh this hardLmao even
>>56366995Nah, they're a bit better.
>>56368961>Better dexBoth are shit die to dexit>Better musicOnly gym theme, rest is worse>Better battles*RaidersOfTheLostArkIntelleon.webm*>Better charactersMarnie is the only ok character and it's mostly for /u/>Better DLCLiteral walking sims with irrelevant storylines>Better costumizationAgreed>Not a buggy mess that always shots itselfAgreed, except the wild mons' ai doing circles non-stop and the extremely slow mons following you, which SV somewhat fixed amidst its bugfest.
>>56369326>diedue*
>>56369245>>UUOOOHHH I CAN GOON TO HER SO SHE IS A GOOD CHARACTERwow you just described every SV "female"
>>56369337Nigga literally everyone complains that SV characters look unfuckable, are you retarded
>>56367023lol nope. Your rivals were forgettable, both in character and battles, and you were already lvl100 by the time you face Leon, not to mention the gym leaders with x4 weak and slow mons where you can do the whole run blindfold without dynamaxing.
>>56368950If that would be true, then how did I cuck Kieran?
>>56368830>he never played SwSh
>>56367023>>56368950>>56369348
>>56369413>Anal fun with a toyfucking kek
>>56366995I just started playing it, even if you disregard the potato graphics the world is insanely bland, the cities have no personality in comparison to SS, just a bunch of random buildings shat out on a flat plane by a singaporean intern, there's no dungeons, no memorable locations, a lot of pokemon in the wild are so fucking small that I constantly run into them while riding, npc trainers just randomly stand in the middle of wilderness for no fucking reason, everything just feels copy pasted.I remember how everyone was disappointed with SS and LGPE but goddamn, they're masterpieces in comparison. My expectations were lgenuinely ow but holy shit. I expected a comfy romp because even the bad pokemon games were always fun for me to play because the formula is so strong but I just find myself constantly annoyed with all the dumb shit. Feels bad.
>>56369348>Nigga literally everyone complains that SV characters look unfuckableWho? AGP Hebetroons or the cucks from the general?
>>56369348Nemona and Carmine are pretty fuckable imo.
>>56366995And objectively much better than DPPt, HGSS and BW/2.
>>56369050>Trainers barely give any exp.>wild encounters have the highest exp gain of all games along with providing you exp candies of all sorts
>>56366995they both are poor imo.Scarlet and violet just run like shit.And Sword and Shield break any sense of quality when the pop in is 20ft in front of you.
>>56369050>As opposed to bw/bw2 where every team is 100% shitmonsOnly yours, not your opponents. They have the broken mons that, for you on the other hand, are a grindfuck worse to raise than your average Larvitar in Gold/Silver. Your starter is so bad regardless which one you pick that you gotta replace it with the Lillipup in the first route.
>>56369422>UAAAAAAAAAAH MY LITERAL EMPTY HALLS ARE GONE!!! NOW YOU HAVE BLAND OPEN SPACES!!! ALSO CAVES AREN'T INSTANCED B-B-BUT A-ALSO AREA ZERO DOESN'T COUNT!!!!How insufferable are you?
>>56369427You sound like you're on HRT
>>56369050>Nope, it’s actually pretty hard to overlevel in LGPE unless you go out of your way to catch an excessive amount of Pokemon. Trainers barely give any exp.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH*wheeze*AAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAA
>>56367226Violet if you aren't a retard.
>>56367226Violet
>>56369413you better have the sauce, anon...
>objectively
>>56369422bro, you have a town that is a literal hall and it's a gym altogether at the same time, how can you even shill this?
>>56366995Sword and Shit will forever be the lowest point for the franchise.
>>56366995>SVGood game being hindered by performance issues.>SwShBad game being embelished with smooth performance.Simple as.
>>56366995Wrong.SwSh its bad because all stuff seems rushed and unfinished. Story, animations, dexcut, bad models...SV only has visual problems. Rest of the game is polished and even with these problems is still a good game.
>>56370233>smooth performance SwSh can have annoying slow downs too especially during weather and double battles.
Terastalization alone, even with how retarded the stupid hats look, makes SV better than SwSh.
>>56370240>SV only has visual problems. Rest of the game is polished and even with these problems is still a good game.LMAO
>>56370081https://files.catbox.moe/xb7sm0.jpegHere is the sauce Mr Larry, don't tell Geeta
>>56370233>>56370240These two are correctEverything else is just wrong and/or shitposting
>>56370321Larry would approve
>>56369413this is porn, right?
>>56370306So do you have actually any counter arguments or did you just want to make a low quality shitpost
>>56370321Deplorable, there is now a cavern where a boner should be
Sword and Shield are some of the worst games I've ever played. SV are bad too, but for different reasons. SV have more obvious flaws, because the performance is complete crap. But the Swsh flaws are more damning. Flaws like barely any routes, the routes that exist are a fucking joke, the extreme linearity and the horrendous region design that somehow manages to make a bland open world look like a masterpiece, the worst gimmick ever, I just don't get how they could release something this bad. It's the only Pokemon game I couldn't even bring myself to finish, it was that bad.
>>56369422Bland is rather Sword & Shield.Those you talked of are just aesthetical details, because they are in fact empty yet lifeless halls. The whole map is a single straight corridor that goes beyond redemption, SV even fixed that with multi-directional caves that you blindly deny their existence for not being instanced like the SS ones, which are also flat up to the point of having the same height all the time.
>>56366995Not really
>>56366995Congratulations, you are wrong.
>>56366995Nope, it isn't. Swoosh is the most effortless product they ever made despite its looks. That up to the point of starting and exposing a Do Less Profit More trend, which both exposed and/or doomed games like FIFA/MADDEN 2020 onwards, Disgaea 6, Rune Factory 5, WoW Shadowlands, NBA 2K20 onwards, SMTV (aka recycled TMS), Idea Factory games, CoD MW, and other games from 2020 onwards that were deemed and defined as slop.
>>56371153Don't forget about the "remastered" games, most of them dropped like flies, kek
>>56366995X and Y was the besti agree, there was only 2 good things that came out of Gen 9,Sprigatito and Meowscarada
>>56370233>>SV>Good gamewhy is the natdex is still missing?why is the exp share still forced?why are moves like Pursuit and Signal Beam still missing?why can't pokemon keep transfer exclusive moves?how come following mons still hasn't been fixed (the can't keep up with the player like they do in HGSS)?how come the game has textures that look like they came from a N64 game?how come some pokemon like skarmory still do the levitating thing instead of either being grounded or having animated wings like most other flying types?how come it has lazier attack animations than PLA?why is GF still doing the overpriced DLC practice?why is GF still obsessed with flashy press A to win gimmicks (dynamax and tera)?why is trainer customization more limited than it is in older games?why are raids still a thing when dexnav was better for hidden ability and max IV hunting?why is there so little post game that it doesn't have any battle facilities?all or at least of these things also apply to SWSH too. SV made little to no improvements
>>56371644*at least most
>>56368822you do realize SV didn't fix most of this right? also, LGPE is what actually started dexit
>>56366995SWSH (a 0/10 game) > SV (a 0/10 game)
>>56369063Yeah SWSH and SV are both 0/10 games and retards ITT need to stop acting like one is better than the other
>>56371762You didn't play them if you seriously believe that.
