Your favorite rival? I like when they are sassy like Blue but I also like when they eventually realize they aren't the hero of this story =)
>>57279758Blue. He's helpful, cracks jokes, and is generally nice while still being a competent battler. Gens 2, 3, and 5 have the worst rivals. They're dicks, bad at battling, and stupid.
Blue, Silver, N, Cheren, Bianca, Hugh and Hop are great
Silver. Only one to feel like an actual Rival
>>57279779For a sec I forgot we had a rival in gen 3. That's how worthless they are. I'm counting Wally for some reason, yeah.Not that I care either way, but I wouldn't consider May and Wally "rivals." They're just there sometimes, is all.
Never had a female rival because I have AGP and always want to be the girl to play dress up and use a lot of horse Pokemon >>57279758
>>57279758Blue is the only good one. The rest are nuisances. The worst ones are the ones who talk shit but suck ass. I hope they make a good rival again.
>>57279758This was dumb. She keeps going on about not being good enough when you don't need anything special to use a mega ring and we already beat her before. Atrocious, annoying writing.
>>57279758Silver though it's mostly due to his extended character in Mastersex and Heart Gold than due to his status as a rival.I also like the rivals from B&W (all three of them) but they feel more like friends than capital R Rivals.Blue/Gary is probably the one who works the best as one because he is neither a total jerk, an hyper active autist or a mellow idiot. And also he's the only one who knows what the bantz is, which is VERY important.
>>57279811>but suck assGenuinely how would they make a rival be a challenge? None of them have been anything more than spam a until you win.
>>57279758I enjoyed Brendan, but only in the original RSE, as I get a good laugh seeing his world crumbled as he can't believe a girl trainer could be stronger than him.
>>57279840>who talk shit but suck assLearning how to read will improve your life and make you smarter.
>>57279842>weebo-made memeDisgusting.
>>57279849I'm asking how they would make them not suck ass. All the rivals suck ass
>>57279860Making them not suck ass isn't an issue if they don't talk shit and brag about how good they are constantly.
>>57279870It does if we're suppose to consider them a rival. A rival whose bad is a bad rival by default no matter the personality
>>57279892>A rival whose bad is a bad rival by default no matter the personalityExtremely autistic way to think. Your headcanon isn't reality.
>>57279907He's right tho.
>>57279919he isn't.
>>57279811>The worst ones are the ones who talk shit but suck ass.So Blue? As his team suck ass in RBY. Just look at trash he gave to his pokemon movepools.
>>57279921He is. Cry moar, etc.
>>57279922Seems pretty good for gen 1.
>>57279922>BlastoisePff imagine not picking Venusaur as your starter so the final boss is Charizard. What a shitty playthrough with a gay turtle at the end.
>>57279922He didn't give them those moves other than Pidgeot's Sky Attack and the starter's third move slot.
>>57279922Another reason FRLG is better
>>57279840By actually using the game’s mechanics. Trainers don’t give their Pokemon items or have full movesets most of the time.
>>57279976common Gen 5 w?
>>57279988living up to the magnum opus glaze
>>57279758I haven't played SV yet. Is Carmine a rival?
>>57279842I forgot that happened. Real “girls have cooties” vibes.
>>57280206Yes, her and Keiran are the Avery and Clara of gen 9, as in dlc rivals for the new dlc story.
>>57279837Blue is probably the most talented of them all, though as anon >>57279922noted his moveset on the team sucked. Glad they fixed that in later gens. Would have been been nice if they gave him a pseudo for PWT or the battle tree. Silver was a massive dick but classic, so he passes. May is just your wannabe gf, she should focus on contests. I like her otherwise Barry is a loser. Gen 5 rivals are okay, but Bianca is much funnier in the anime Gen 6 Serana is just perma copingGen 7 Hau is... idk. Talented I guess? He challenges you when you are the champion in the league, so I guess thats something. He is overly hypedGen 8,9 havent played yet
>>57280244I know she is a bitch. So after whole 6 gens they finally gave us another jerk rival (Ignoring remakes here)? Kinda looking forward to kicking her ass now :]
>Good Rival, Good TeamBarry, N>Good Rival, Weak TeamBlue, Silver, Cheren, Bianca, Hugh, Gladion>Bad Rival, Good Team>Bad Rival, Weak TeamMay, Wally, Serena, Shauna, Hau>Useless sack of shitTrevor, TiernoThis isn't including any post-game rematches; if it was Cheren would be bumped up and Hau probably would as well.Blue and Silver need actual movesets and Silver needs to evolve his team by Victory Road.Cheren, Bianca, Hugh and Gladion all need full teams in the main game, not halfbaked shit until you get to postgame.May needs a full team and to fully evolve it, Wally needs a better team and to show up more than once at the ass end of the game out of nowhere, Serena, Shauna and Hau need full teams with full movesets and Trevor and Tierno need to be deleted.
>>57279988Surf Haxorus is a choice but much better than nothing
>>57279758Barry is my favorite, he's super funny and has my favorite team across all rivals. He embodies that spunky boy next door energy and it's cool how he learns to get serious after the Uxie fiasco. He really is the protagonist's best friend. Besides, I have never been a fan of Silver's edge and mental gymnastics but masters made me appreciate his character more. Also I wanna molest him.
>>57279922Alakazam in gen 1 with Psybeam is better the most aces in the series, half his team is had but that's due to there being ass for level up movepools in early gens
>>57279922>3 OU mons>bad shut up retard
>>57280235they doonly boys are safe
If the rival didn't become champion I don't like them.
>>57279779Hugh is the best rival ever, take that back
>>57279758Bianca
>>57279792How so?
>>57279758As long as they're not Hop or Nemona there's something good about every rival
>>57279758I like them weak and chatty
>>57280937so you only like Blue, N, Hau and Nemona?
>>57279779>>57279807May is downright diheartening and honestly feels like she had a secret case of chronic depression and never really tried to hardBirch chases you down near the bike route and assumed you two were traveling together and is surprised to hear she isn't and she's off on her ownShe doesn't evolve her starter to the third levelWhen you beat her the last battle she gets all quiet and starts to reminisce about your first battle, like you honestly just broke herIt's sad reallyThen when you call her on the Pokenav her claim to fame is being your friend, which she says no one seems to believe
>>57279988Would be 100% kino if Serpeior and Liepard switched items and if Gigalith and Liepard switched positions
>>57279807Agreed. Gen 3 rivals are in a weird place, they're just kids you battle against sometimes and they don't even pose a real challenge or even share the same goal. I can respect Cheren and Silver for trying, at least.
>>57284777I never saw this,is it only on the remake?
>>57279758I don't get why people like Blue and Silver so much. I always thought they were cringy and annoying since they yapped so much only to keep losing>I'm le better than youGets solo'd in every single battle>muh [chuuni edgelord babble]Gets his ass beat every single time
>>57284944HGSS improved Silver character
>>57284944Silver's autism makes sense in HGSS given that Giovanni is his father. His worldview crumbled apart when Red defeated Team Rocket, so he desperately wants to become a strong trainer unlike his father, but is too oblivious to actually break the cycle. In the Japanese version, he even quotes Giovanni's "痛い目に合わせてやる" line after battling in Azalea Town. Ultimately, he is just a lost kid without any self-awareness. That's why he's unaffected every time you defeat his team but lost his mind when Lance, an adult, obliterated him. Also his character really benefited from mastersex desu
>>57279842Behold, the perfect Pokemon game
May/brendan music is drilled in my head
>>57279779>>57284777>>57284927I played Emerald not too long ago and was surprised after beating her on Route 119 Scott comes and tells you how fuming she was.>"Hahahah! Way to go, <player>! I just passed by a Trainer riding a Bike. You just beat that Trainer, didn't you? It was pretty obvious that you did. The kid looked really upset with a face all red from anger. I sure seem to run into you often. Are you off to Fortree Gym next? I expect that you'll do well at the Gym. Well, I'll be seeing you!"Funny how one line changes how you see her.
>>57285355IIRC she said she was gonna challenge a gym once but never brings it up again, instead she sticks to completing the pokedex and eventually returning to Littleroot. Kinda sad.
>>57285355Oh no wonder,i only had ruby so i never saw that text
>>57279758NemonaShe's just so charming
>>57285439Shes an obsessive possessive tomboy
>>57285493So what?
>>57279758You'd love Kieran, then.>How can you get critical hits, even at a time like this... What are you, the hero of this story?!
>>57284777Maybe in RSE but she is pretty chill in ORAS and evolves her mons to the last stage. You can also tag team with her in the battle tower's multis
>>57284944Realistically though, they are pretty damn talented regardless, particularly Blue. He is better than 99.99% of all trainers, his confidence and attitude is justified. Silver is pretty much an ace trainer as well (actually defeated all of them on victory road)
>>57284777>>57285355Damn, her and BW Bianca were depressing. Young girls just slowly being crushed by reality throughout their games. Though atleast Bianca benefited a lot from her journey and got a happy ending in BW2. Can't remember what May did in the postgame.
>>57287734>Can't remember what May did in the postgame.Supposedly she wanted to challenge the gym circuit again, and help her dad with the Pokédex. She has 100 at the time you complete her story arc.Oh man, how does she react when you show up with the complete dex? I never checked that. Birch gives you a Johtomon.
>>57279758>Your favorite rival?Do I even need to say it?On a more serious note, Nemona is definitely my favourite (her personality and story really resonate with me), but I also like Blue. His unapologetic asshole energy is very entertaining, and his reputation speaks for itself. Klara is also very funny. She's just a total bitch, which makes for some very entertaining situations. I also quite like Hugh, but that's probably just because I really like his theme.
>>57283047He sees you as just an obstacle and is team are a representation of what he believes in, i'm not explaining it well but he comes across as being indifferent towards your character and on his path. zoomers would say he's a sigma
>>57287734I guess that’s why she got changed in ORAS. Beating down normal trainers to the point of depression doesn’t sit well with people.
Wally.
For no other reason other than she's cute when she loses.
And when she challenges you for that matter. Girl is a trainer with the heart of a magical girl.
>>57290310She's so girlypop
>>57290310I mean, yeah.IIRC didn't she straight up reference Sailor Moon here?
I like Hugh!
>>57284565hop and hau?
>>57290284I'm upset they dropped dating in XY. Would have been a fun side quest.
>>57290284>can't battle her after the main gamethat sucks
>>57290473He has cool looks and music for sure.
>>57291993They made it part of the main quest. Sort of.
>>57293135I fucking wish. They really should've given us dating in SV, we got fucking blueballed by like 4 characters
Kieran is my favorite!
Serena shines best when she tag teams with the MC. Her spirit never falters, she is beatdown but continues the training anyways.But why the FUCK would they exclude her from being a partner in Battle Maison Multis? Shouldnt be to hard to fix with the source code being available... but putting effort into one of my least favorite poke games?
>>57279758all of them are one dimensional as fuck the most backstory you get from any of them is Biancas dad being overprotective or something.
>>57293172I’m surprised it got completely dropped after gen 7.
>>57279758Silver.
I like Serena because she's sexy :<
>>57294711I mean, GF didn't knew at the time, but they accidentally created the hottest (pun intended) generation, according to many fans on the internet.A dating mechanic would've turned Alola into A-coom-a. They either missed gold or saved themselves from a sticky life.
>>57294733>They either missed gold orNothing. After gen1, they always fucking miss the mark.
>>57279758I liked Bianca as character. She is dumb and everytime she appears, I think "how did you get here?" Despite that, I want to see her keep going, and it is lame how she always gets bailed out by other characters instead of truly standing up for herself. Definitely enjoyed running into her during the story.Cheren I thought was a bitch. He is the competent rival, but his character growth is out of place. We are chasing N and team plasma, and he has to wonder why he is pursuing pokemon strength? Save that speech for post game, we haven't caught a legendary yet.
>>57297712N is the rival, not Cheren.
>>57294701what pokemon would you give her?
>>57298010Cheren counts as a rival imo. He wants to challenge the league too, and can't understand why you're better than him until gives up before Victory Road.
>>57279758I loved mindbreaking kieran, too bad he stopped being miserable after the absolute L he took after losing as the champion
>>57288318One of the worst changes in ORAS imo
silver and hugh
>>57279758Outside of Silver, I'm going with Hugh. Despite his edgy design. He is friendly, and helps you get stronger along the way. His motive is unique compared to other rivals and he is super chunni.
I have to enure there's at least one mention of Lear. His initial seethe towards the player character is hilarious and after he gets his arc he gets an extra foil in the form of a capricious genie childhood friend.
>>57300393I want to have sex with Lear does that count
>>57300393I love himI stopped playing because he stopped being important
>>57298119Cheren is too much of a bitch to be rival
>>57279944Let's be real here, arcanine is Blue's signature mon regardless of what starter you pick. Just like how Red is forever associated with Pikachu.
>>57300100Hugh is insanely forgettable. I constantly forgot he even existed in black 2.
>>57279758May
>>57298068Well, for the multis, I would have implemented it so that the system randomly selects 2 out of 6 from her final rematch team. Actually, would also be neat if rivals had rotating team members on their full team.
Blue > Nemona > Silver/Cheren > Barry > Brenda/May > Wally > Who gives a fuck
>>57303060He's forgettable as a rival, but he's a good character, it's just that there's a lot going around Team Plasma in B2W2. I appreciate that there was a character with a long-lasting grudge against an evil team because NPCs don't give a shit despite all the damage they cause.
>>57279758I like Blue, he isn't the asshole that Gary is. He is arrogant but also gives you tips and later on admits that you are strong. He doesn't deserve the crap Oak gave him. Gen 1 from his point of view is interesting. Always one step ahead of you, winning as much as you, yet with the exception of the possibly the Oak's lab battle and the 1st (optional) Route 22 battle, cannot beat you. He just became Champion only for the one kid who can beat him to show up. He is on a 5 to 7 losing streak against you at the start of the champion battle. Silver sucks at first but starts to redeem himself near the end.11 year old me got a crush on May when I played Emerald. Was obvious how nice she is and I felt bad when Scott showed up after the battle before Fortree. Wally was the bait and switch rival but I never saw him as one. Brendan is a dick. I am glad ORAS let the rival get the 3rd evolution. Not having that battle in RSE was disapointing. Never played anything after gen 3. Actually I tried XY and thought the group was cool but slowed the game down too much. Nemona seems ok. Battle autism plus actually having some weakness similar to Wally. >>57284927In RSE, Birch meets you before you enter the route where you battle underneath Cycling Road.
>>57285493Based.
>>57308171>Silver sucks at first but starts to redeem himself near the endThat's called character development and it's what makes him good
>>57308171>He doesn't deserve the crap Oak gave himI felt bad for him too when Oak pushed him aside.
