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The most morbid turtle of them all.

>>57283922
So cute..

>>57283925
can't believe the anime did this

>>57283922
Terapagos isnt a legendary

>>57283947
why

>>57283948
Hes a mythical idk

Terapagos broke a masterball therefore
terapagos>everyone else canonically

Isn't Calyrex technically the third legendary of Galar?

>>57283958
People miss the point of that scene of the Master Ball breaking. The Master Ball catches any Pokémon without fail, but actually keeping the Pokémon is the Trainer's responsibility. Any Pokémon could destroy their ball regardless of what kind of ball it is, that has nothing to do with power. Poké Balls don't capture Pokémon in the literal sense and instead catching a Pokémon is the Pokémon agreeing to join. The Master Ball is the exception, but even with it like all other kinds of balls, a Pokémon can exit their ball whenever they want and even destroy their ball whenever they want.

>>57283922
SV and SS don’t have third legendaries. Stop trying to force patterns onto everything.

>>57284144
Source?

>>57284164
Headcanon

>>57283922
CUTE

>>57284152
>SS
The dogs literally fight the noodle. It's a trio even if it's asymmetrical. They're closely related to each other. The turtle is maybe the odd one out, but still the third legendary insofar as it's the cover legendary of the expanded version, and also literally the source the other two derived from with his poorly explanatory timeline connection shenanigans.

>>57284196
Holy shit bros Deoxys is the fourth legendary of RSE because Rayquaza fights it! I am very smart btw.

>>57284204
This but unironically, but only for ORAS. Zaci, Zama, and Ete are more of a trio than the Gen 2 birds will ever be a duo.

>>57284204
The only thing that makes Rayquaza a third is the fact that he breaks off Groudon and Kyogre's pissing contest. They fight as part of the plot. It's literally equivalent to SS.
>Deoxys
Animefags should face the wall.

>>57284249
>The only thing that makes Rayquaza a third is the fact that he breaks off Groudon and Kyogre's pissing contest
And the fact that its design looks similar to them with the black sclera, yellow eyes, and lines all over its body
And the fact that it represents a domain of nature

Eternatus and the dogs have literally no relation beyond "I am a pokemon fan buck broken by these games being such derivative slop I need to pretend this fits the same pattern as previous games"

>Animefags
Play ORAS, chud.

>>57284277
>its design
Except Eternatus and the dogs also share the same design inspiration, being based on a dragon and a knight respectively from traditional medieval folklore, you fucking retard.

>>57284288
>Except Eternatus and the dogs also share the same design inspiration
Their designs aren't even remotely similar. Seek help.

>B-BUT IT'S LIKE LE FOLKLORE
Yes, which they represented by using legendaries which have zero relation to each other. Is Ogerpon related to Pecharunt in your fanfic too?

>>57284277
>ORAS
Posthumous animeslopification in the same time frame as when GF put Ash in the games doesn't mean shit.

>>57284301
>Is Ogerpon related to Pecharunt
Pecharunt is literally in the cutscene narrating Ogerpon's story and an integral part of it. I think you may have brain damage.

>>57284301
>Their designs aren't even remotely similar. Seek help.
incorrect, look at behind the scenes vids from GF about the making of SW/SH before opening your whore mouth.

>>57284152
you have autism

>>57284311
>Pecharunt is literally in the cutscene narrating Ogerpon's story and an integral part of it
Nice fanfic bro

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Unown is the fourth member of the legendary beasts bros, it appears in the opening cutscene of Crystal with Suicune so that means they're related!!

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>>57283958

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>>57284370
Let's see if you're blind too and not just stupid.

>>57284164
Common sense on how this would work and existing evidence proving what I've said. The idea of the kinds of Poké Balls the player can use forcibly capturing against their will and forcing them to obey not only doesn't make sense in so many different ways but also notably goes against the morals that series constantly pushes. The basic Poké Ball is described as being comfortable for the Pokémon.

We've seen Pokémon can exit their ball whenever they want, same for destroying their ball. The Wild Pokémon we see are usually the ones seeking humans to be their Trainer. A Wild Battle is really more you proving yourself to the Pokémon or for the lower Catch Rate ones it trying to prove itself to you. All Pokémon also have human-level cognition at minimum.

Some notable dialogue from N proves this and so does Dr. Footstep.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dr._Footstep/Quotes

>>57284185
Cope.

>>57284389
This.

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>>57284389
>falling for BW propaganda
nobody cares about what leftists have today

zygarde and eternatus don’t have their own game or dlc so they arent third legendary mons.

>>57284164
lamefreak bootlicker cope

>>57284389
>retconed pre-legends arceus pokegal lore
lol

>>57284412
And how does legends retcon this?

>>57283951
>obtainable as part of the story
>mythical
Wrong

>>57284430
this. it would be like calling arceus a mythical mon.

>>57284434
Arceus wasn't part of the mains Tory originally, Terapagos is

>>57284399
>dr footfag

powerlevelfags are in shambles since the master ball break uh

>>57284487
Powerlevelfags been real quiet since that one dropped

So which 3rd legendaries are the best in your opinion?

>>57284407
>don’t have their own game
>zygarde
Anon...

>>57284589
Kyurem and Giratina for story reasons, Ray for design but it's a purely childish enjoyment sort of thing. Zygarde had potential but he was shot in the back, we'll see if ZA gives him enough.

>>57284650
>xe still think that plaz Is gonna be pokemon z
imagine being this dumb

>>57284666
No, but it's definitely Zygarde's game considering he's in the title and getting a mega.

>>57284681
>he's in the title
no he’s not
>and getting a mega.
nice fanfic.

>>57284690
>he doesn't know

>>57284726
my fanfic Is totally real goys, masuda told me in a dream.

>>57284734
How's it feel to live under a rock?

>>57283922
Bro, I check for a third legendary thread. Find nothing, make my own, someone tells me it's the second thread in a few hours, check again, nothing, suddenly find this.

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>>57284589
Terapagos is the only interesting one
The rest are different flavors of Rayquaza

>>57284152
What? SS clearly has Zacian, Zamazenta, and Eternatus. Did you even play the games? All three fight in one battle.

>>57283922
I wonder what they'll do for Terapagos in Gen 10. Give it a move that lets it change to its stellar form, like how they gave Kommo-O a move to replicate its lost Z move? Give it an item so it can just always be in its stellar form? Give it nothing so it's a useless piece of trash in restricted formats?

>>57286031
They'll release a female one with a different ability so you can keep the cute baby tort in your party.

>>57286031
mega necrozma got nothing....

>>57286694
he already 2 good

Necrozma and Eternatus don't count, we just never got these games' actual 3rd legendary (waiting for a Legends game, 100%)

>>57286031
permacut

>>57286989
Gen 7’s third was Nebby and Fwoofy

>Gen 2 - Bronze legendary (bird-like, probably terrestrial, leader of a whole new legendary trio?)
>Gen 7 - Star legendary (aquatic, starry-sky shaped?)
>Gen 8 - ??? legendary (yellow wolf, represents another knightly object?)
>Gen 9 - Verdant legendary (a present paradox of Cyclizar?)

>>57284589
Rayquaza, Kyurem, and Eternatus. The others are all pretty shit. Zygarde in particular seems to be a retread of Rayquaza in a way that confuses their roles.

>>57287039
Ho-oh is a guardian of the sky and the leader of land beasts, Lugia is a guardian of the sea and the leader of sky beasts, so a 3rd one would be a guardian of the land and the leader of sea beasts? Water/Fire, Water/Electric, and Water/Ice

>>57283922
Why are they all dragons?

>>57286989
Z-Moves and Dynamax respectively,

>>57283922
while Zygarde is the last of the pattern of Legendary box trio (which Rayquaza started, by the way), Necrozuma's started the trend of third legendaries being tied to the region's gimmicks.

Necrozuma: Z-moves
Eternatus: Dynamax
Terapagos: Terasilization

The next region will have a third legendary that's tied to their gimmick as well.

>>57287851
mega stones were also related to the legendary Pokemons, just not the third one

>>57283922
How do you guys feel about Terapagos being the only third legendary to have a gender? The one we catch can only be a male, but it's very likely they will give out an event where Liko's is a female.

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>>57286014
>Deoxys is part of the weather trio cuz it fights Rayquaza guys!

>>57288135
I like it because I think it is a reference to Lonesome George and how he died without being able to have children and ending the genetic line

>>57283922
where's suicune

>>57289094
he wasn't invited

>>57283922
None of them are in the same league as Fug

>>57289101
all of them are in fact better than fug in the sense that their whole story isn't being "I only exist to stop these two from destroying Hoenn"

>>57283922
Third legendary of SV is technically Ogerpon.
>Koraidon (1)
>Miraidon (2)
>Ogerpon (3)
>Terapagos (4)

>>57288135
Pretty much what >>57289092 said, though I also agree with Liko’s probably being a female since the anime suggests that it’s a different Terapagos from the one Heath and Briar encountered.

>>57288109
Mega stones originated from the Deoxys virus (which is why Rayquaza can mega evolve without holding one, he ate it already) but GF is probably retconning that away in ZA.
>>57287613
Dragon is the cool type.
>>57287851
>Kyurem gets 2nd versions where it fuses with the previous 2 rather than a third game
>Necrozma gets 2nd versions where it fuses with the previous 2 rather than a third game
Where's your pattern now, anon?
>>57288135
It makes sense since Terapagos is specifically one member of an extinct species that gained power from the crystals. Also they can give us future ones with a different ability that remain in baby form.

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>>57287039
>2
Probably a qilin. Suicune basically fits that which is why they made it the “third legendary” among them, but in keeping with the bird motif maybe making it a horned gryphon or hippogriff would work. Ground/Flying.
>7
Maybe a fish or something, with long fins resembling the Milky Way, and its body greenish to fit the green flash sometimes observed at dawn/dusk. Psychic/Water.
>8
A yellow wolf with a ballista mounted on its back, that fires off arrows piercing dynamax pokemon. More roguish compared to the other two as knights. Dark/Steel type called Zayarrow.
>9
Literally just picrel.

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>>57289390
>Genzaidon
Wtf she's breedable?

>>57289417
>everything I don't like is bait

>>57289465
Yes.

Discussing 3rd box legendaries when Gen 1 doesn't even have one... greedy...

>>57287039
Gen 8 had the knightly item pokemon as part of the DLC. Zacian was the Cyan Sword, Zamazenta was the Mage ta Shield, Urshifu is the Yellow Armor of the Island of Armor (the yellow uniforms of the dojo members), and Jimmy Neutron was the Green Crown of the Crown Tundra.

So if there were a third wolf I think it would need to be a different color than yellow, but Urshifu doesn't really have yellow in its design so you could probably still make it work if you changed it to an off color like cyan and magenta. Also spears are cool give it a spear.

>>57290084
Make them based on MissingNo, always found the weird connection between it and Porygon interesting (Porygon is a digital pokemon resembling a bird, MissingNo is a glitch Pokemon that is bird-type), so I'd go with that.
>Porygon was actually based on an ancient Pokemon from Kanto that lived long long ago
>Red legendary
Some digital mutation of Porygon, it became corrupted and glitched out due to Team Rocket's meddling
>Green legendary
A genetical chimera that resembles Porygon, a biological attempt by Team Rocket to recreate the original legendary
>Blue legendary
An ancient golem made in the image of the ancient pokemon, created long ago by someone who actually met it in order to protect Kanto in its absence

>>57290465
>anon forgot about the birds

>>57284401
Ok retard. Keep huffing selective canon to fuel your headcanon.
>>57288146
There are no legends describing Deoxys's history with the others like there are with Eternatus in relation to the others.

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>>57290524
>the Tapu are part of the Ultra Beasts because there are legends that describe how they fought the Ultra Beasts guys!

i liek smol turt :)

>>57290536
I know your a troll, and this conversation is ultimately people arguing over fan made terms, but the galar dogs don't have any legends outside of fighting eternatus. They just show up to fight him then fuck off until he comes back.

>>57290542
He doesn't even have canons on his back.

>>57290553
>but the galar dogs don't have any legends outside of fighting eternatus
And Ogerpon doesn't have any legends outside of fighting the Loyal Three. Doesn't mean it's part of the Loyal Three, dumbassio. There are allowed to be legendaries that fight but also aren't directly related.

>>57290488
The birds are for being generic legendaries, not box legendaries, more Swords of Justice, Tapus, and Treasures of Ruin and less the Tao Trio, the Whether Trio, or the Creation Trio

>>57290536
The Tapus were seen as a group before that fight.
>>57290566
The Loyal Three were known as a trio before that fight

Meanwhile, the Galar Trio are literally just known as a trio fighting with no other Legends about them.

>>57290577
Zacian and Zamazenta were also known as a duo before Eternatus, dumbfuck.

>>57290594
Prove it.

>>57290594
Oh I agree, it's all just people arguing over fan made terms, I'm just enjoying the discussion. Zacian and Zamazenta have no lore outside of fighting Eternatus. People know them as a duo, but just because the public can't remember Eternatus doesn't mean he isn't the only thing related to them.

Honestly, I feel like there is more to the three of them than is shown. They only appeared in history to fight Eternatus, vanished, and then show up again only when it was close to reawakening. All three also don't dynamax and have powers directly relating to dynamax pokemon. If anything I feel this is evidence to some shared origin thats lost to time.

>>57287451
Ho-oh isn’t a guardian of the sky

>>57290465
This makes me want a version of Kanto that leans more into Team Rocket experimenting with pokemon, we just have Ditto and Mewtwo, imagine with there were more artificially created pokemon? I think that would be

>>57290597
Play the game.

>>57290753
>Zacian and Zamazenta have no lore outside of fighting Eternatus
Yes they do. And even if they didn't they're still completely unrelated. It's literally as retarded as claiming Deoxys is a super-ancient Pokemon just because it fights Rayquaza.

>>57286694
Ultra Necrozma, yes, but Dawn Wings and Dusk Mane Necrozmas still made it in. They're at least on the time power tier as ordinary 670ish restricteds. Terastal form Terapagos is a base 600. Like, it's a good Pokemon, but not on the same level as other restricteds.

>>57290132
I was thinking more a jousting lance

>>57283947
It actually is, Gen 9's only mythical is Pecharunt for some reason.

>>57292470
We will get another one for sure, any time now, SV isn't over yet... This is me huffing copium in case you couldn't tell

>>57292481
Legends ZA will be gen 9 and it could add a new mythical but in SV itself? Doubtful

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I like turdle. It's very cute.

>>57283922
>the majority of them are evil
Really makes you think

>>57283925
not in that order I hope

>>57292638
Just for you it will be in that order

>>57291798
>Play Switchslop
LMAO no.

>>57292601
Necrozma and Eternatus are the only evil ones as of their gen. Giratina was only evil in PLA but by Pl it's effectively stepping in to stop Cyrus from fucking shit up. Terapagos was chilling until you interrupted its nap, and its energy went out of control. The myths about Kyurem are just that and it's a broken shell who just wants to be left alone, and who literally couldn't eat anyone anyway because its mouth is literally muzzled shut by its own icicles.

>>57292855
>retard trying to post lore about a game he didn't play
How about you just shut the fuck up dude

>>57292904
>double retard still falls for bait after he was told it's bair

>>57289386
>Mega stones originated from the Deoxys virus (which is why Rayquaza can mega evolve without holding one, he ate it already) but GF is probably retconning that away in ZA.
I thought Mega and Keystones were created by AZ's ultimate weapon through the crystallization of life energy.

>>57292874
>Necrozma and Eternatus are the only evil ones as of their gen.
None of those were evil, just misplaced Pokémon.

>>57292962
They did. That anon is full of shit.

But what about 4th legendaries?
Existing
>Just Arceus
However, the ones not existing (yet)
>Original Dragon
>W or A Ratatoskr legendary

>>57292962
They were, you are correct, but it's funny how ORAS tied Rayquaza to Mega evolution, wonder what kind of shenanigan they would've come up with if they tried to do the same in the Gen 4 remakes and attempt to try to connect dynamaxing with Giratina (Eternatus comes from the Distortion World?!)

>>57294149
There's also Necrozma tearing a new asshole in space and that could be it (I mean Mega Evolutions were still in Gen 7 even if there were no new ones or any new lore)

>>57294149
>Lucario was the first mega evolution!
>just kidding, it’s Fug
fug

>>57293010
>>57292962
>>57294149
Nope. Sycamore speculated that they were, but then in the ORAS design files that leaked, specifically ones relating to Delta dated to just a few months before release, GF outright internally stated that Deoxys's meteors were the source. But that's 100% getting thrown out with ZA.

>>57293263
Would Deoxys not be the 4th legendary?

>>57295715
It's a mythical

>>57295721
>arceus
Whatever 'um actually' you are about to say is not gonna make you look like less of a dumbass.

>>57283925
Concept was cool, execution was shit. It's storyline was short, shoehorned and didn't go anywhere.

But I love Pokemon that hide their power level like Magikarp, Larvesta, Shelgon etc.. And I love that this tiny guy turns into some sort of omni-type deity on a whim.

>>57295715
If you count Necrozma and Eternatus as 3rd legendaries, sure

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>>57295763
>Concept was cool, execution was shit.
you would be surprised how many videogames does this

>>57295845
Even on that ground I don't think it counts, at least both Necrozma and Eternatus have connections with all the other members of their respective "trio", Deoxys only and exclusively has beef with Rayquaza and no connections at all to Groudon and Kyogre

>>57295890
Wait a fucking second.

Land, Sea, Sky. Kyogre is sea, Groudon is land, Rayquaza is sky. Kyogre and Groudon hate each other. Just absolutely start fighting on sight for seemingly no reason. Thankfully there is Rayquaza there to break up there fight. And Rayquaza doesn't have a rival because there is no 4th zone with a guardian legendary.

But there IS a legendary pokemon that is neither from the land, sea, or sky that Rayquaza absolutely loses his shit over.

BY GOD

>>57295963
TRVTHNVKE KVNO SOVL

>>57296005
Are you okay? Are you having a stroke? Why are you talking in psuedo 1337 speak?

>>57291798
What lore do they have asides from their story they share with Eternatus?

>>57296046
I was considering asking myself, but figured they would just accuse me of not playing the game instead of giving me an answer.

>>57295963
I don't remember Delta episode much, but I don't think their conflict was personal, Rayquaza was just trying to protect the planet against Deoxys, not at all like Groudon and Kyogre

>>57296077
I never even played the delta episode, I'm mostly just having fun sharing a head cannon I just came up with. I find it funny because people meme fug as hating aliens.

3rd legendaries for non-box legendaries
>Dream duo
Full-moon legendary representing dreamless sleep
>King's steeds
Fusion of both horses that managed to revive them
Dunno for Latios and Latias

>>57296247
Laties the green one, duh.

>>57296571
But that is already the color of the Latios's shiny...

>>57296247
Dream duo could be day dreaming

Kings steeds have calyrex as a rider, fulfilling the same niche as necrozma and ice dragon fuck whose name I forgot. Trios aren't always balanced, like how Rayquaza and Landurous are the 'bosses' of their trio.

Latixs, the gender neutral pokemon.

>>57295442
The thing is that the leaked document stated that the Keystones and Megastones were crystalized bioenergy of humans and pokemon respectively.

>>57297181
The Delta Episode documents say "this is the origin of Mega Evolution" clear as day.

>>57297221
I was refering to the original XY documents.

>>57297221
I never played XY or Delta, but what is stopping both things from being true? Is it possible that there could be two sources for the same kind of energy? Or that both sources are simply different methods of reaching the same outcome? Or that one source could have led to the creation of the other source?

>>57297229
GF throws away its own ideas a lot. As we said, none of this will matter a year from now because ZA is probably going to give its own answer.

All these 3rd legendaries, all these 3rd versions never made...

>>57298455
It's only Zygarde, Eternatus, and Terapagos that didn't get any. Unless you want to be a little dweeb and say that 'um actually USUM and B2W2 aren't third versions'
Also Zygarde will get Legends ZA if you want to count that

>>57298557
Terapagos literally did get it because he wasn't even in the games until the DLC, that's literally his story and his game.

>>57283922
Zygarde’s 100% forme needs a few changes. Aura Break as its ability and zen mode removed from the franchise, permanently.

Core enforcer should be physical, like Photon Geysir or Sacred Fire

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I know you guys are shitposting but the code separates legendary, sublegendary, mythical, ultrabeast and paradox pokemon.
Gen 8's legendaries are Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus and Calyrex.
Gen 9's legendaries are Koraidon, Miraidon and Terapagos.

>>57299866
Forgot to mention the pic is old and we now know that the weird beast/muskeeter chimera are in the "??? pokemon" category now too, but you get the point
Eternatus and Calyrex are both legendaries on the same tier as Zacian and Zamazenta as weird it sounds, Terapagos is on the same tier as Koraidon and Miraidon.
No, Ogerpon isn't a legendary, it's a sub legendary like a random Latios, and Deoxys is no legendary, it's a mythical like let's say Victini

>>57300165
Anon, we've known Deoxys was a Mythical for a long ass time.

>>57300165
>and Deoxys is no legendary, it's as mythical as Keldeo and Arceus

>>57303303
>which are still treated as Mythical and tied to game purchases such as SS's DLC or L: A/BDSP
That you MUST finish L: A to meet Arceus in BDSP or that you must collect the Galar Deer to meet Keldeo indicate they haven't lost any of their special treatment, even if Game Freak relaxed constraints (after all, ORAS added a Deoxys encounter, but the thing still gets a Fateful Encounter tag on capture, because it's still a Mythical).

>>57303620
>>which are still treated as Mythical and tied to game purchases such as SS's DLC or L: A/BDSP
>That you MUST finish L: A to meet Arceus in BDSP or that you must collect the Galar Deer to meet Keldeo indicate they haven't lost any of their special treatment, even if Game Freak relaxed constraints (after all, ORAS added a Deoxys encounter, but the thing still gets a Fateful Encounter tag on capture, because it's still a Mythical).
how you get them change shit, its how they debut; Arceus, Keldeo and Deoxys all debut as giveaway events, thus they're all mysticals and remained as such.

>>57287613
Because it's cool.

Mythicals are such a stupid distinction to be honest, don't know why Gamefreak was so hellbent on making it and legendaries be clearly different things

>>57305118
You could say that about just about any decision GF makes. For example there's no real defining factor for what works or doesn't with Sheer Force, it's literally just "is it part of the hardcoded list of moves that interact with it". The inner machinations of their designers are a mystery.

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>>57299534
Photon Geyser functions based on which of Necrozma's attacking stat is higher and thus is changeable.

>>57305118
Mythicals are Legendaries that are distributed via events, it's a simple distinction that does have logic to it

>>57299534
Core Enforcer should be Super-effective against Fairy. And Complete Zygarde should be Planet-sized.

>>57299866
Based.
I even think Calyrex is more suitable than Eternatus as a trio member.

The three represent royalty, they all three have descriptions on the official website which highlight their grace and an extreme characteristic (slicing everything, parrying everything and an intelligence which allows to see the future, the present and the past) .
They all represent things that allow a kingdom to prosper. The wolves are royal knights who attack or defend, where Calyrex directs it and makes food grow.
They all have a strange interaction with the Dynamax phenomenon (the wolves can't and use it, where Calyrex uses its own energy to keep control and not go crazy).
They have all already faced Eternatus, and came away covered in wounds for the wolves, and Calyrex came away traumatized and injured. We have the trio of colors “green”, “blue” and “red”.
Eternatus would also be linked to the "trio", but as an antagonist.

We also know that the DLCs aim to replace the third version, which implies that Terapagos and Calyrex act as the main legendary which completes the mascot duo.

Similarly, Koraidon and Miraidon are the mascots of the Scarlet and Violet books, where Terapagos is represented by White Book.
Terastellar's ability is made to "counter" the abilities of Koraidon and Miraidon by removing the fields and the weather.
One comes from the distant past and refers to what is ancient, while the other to the future.
There, where Terapagos has fun with the dimensions of time, not to mention the Teracristal energy of which he is the source which powers the time machine which brought them back to the present. Its shape changes which give the impression that it is timeless as if it could become younger or older (it's symbolic).

>>57306296
So where do Urshifu and Ogrepon fit into this?

>>57306496
Up your holes.

>>57306608
anon please we're have a serious discussion; don't bring your fetishes into it

>>57306496
Ogerpon and Urshifu are only “sublegendary” (i.e. comparable to Pokemon such as Moltres, Regice, Raikou, Azelf, Heatran, Landorus, Cobalion, Tapu Koko, etc.).

This is just waiting content before the final game, which corresponds to the end and conclusion of the DLC.

>>57284115
The truth of the matter is that we haven't had a real third legendary since Kyurem.
Zygarde, Necrozma, the gen 8 one, and Terapagos have no real link to the other two legendaries in terms of design and only a passing lore connection in the case of the gen 8 one.

>>57307076
Zygarde would have gotten something if they didn't can the project to land SM on the anniversary.

>>57307076
>No real link to the other two Legendaries
>Necrozma
what?

>>57303677
They could have come coded in-game in the player's team as an automatic capture, what determines their status is Game Freak's decision to create them as Mythicals. It's a conscious decision undertaken at the start of every Gen "create one or two mythical pokémon for engagement bait" and once one's been approved and signed off on, it retains its status regardless of how or when a player is allowed encounter it thereafter (even as a post-game story finale).

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>>57307076
>we didn't have a their legendary since kyurem
>because no link in terms of design

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>>57305118
Because no-one outside Game Freak knew Mew was added at the last minute (all of Game Freak knew, Tajiri supported its addition). Japanese players started finding it by bugs and glitches and wondering was it really real. When Corocoro ran the first Mew giveaway (20 winners, they got 78,000 entries), they described it as a mythical pokémon, because it wasn't found in the wild in-game.
The problem is not Game Freak making distinctions among their creations, but NoA no-arsing the localisation and telling their own version of the property.

>>57307714
>hmmm
>milk

Truly a wise man.

>>57307714
>NoA no-arsing the localisation
Localisation was a clusterfuck in the 90s. The teams that did the various EU versions of RB got handed a list of English terms with no context and told to translate them, which resulted in some funny mistranslations in some versions like Pound being translated as the unit of measurement instead of the act.

>>57307868
And NoA deliberately told its set to change "Hop" to "Splash" because they didn't grow up in a culture that kept Koi and saw how frisky and able to leap out the water they were.
So now rabbits splash in the west, because they like wet fur, I guess?

>>57307868
>Pound being translated as the unit of measurement instead of the act.
German here, always wondered what the fuck of action "Pfund" was when I was a kid.

Terapagos and its storyline was the most nothingburger thing in the DLC

>>57309363
It does seem like they ran out of time to flesh it out properly huh
But the post-credits scene at the lake kinda made up for it imo, that shit blew my mind

>>57307714
>they described it as a mythical pokémon, because it can't be obtained without official distribution by the event holders (mainly, through "Mystery Gifts").

>>57307939
well, it could've been flop.

>>57309416
Why are Iron Leaves and Walking Wake not mythical Pokémon?

>>57309441
From what I gather, those were being phased out since mythicals used to be distributed along with their respected movie releases (with Meltan being an strange exception with the promotion between LG:PE/Go/Home). So far only Pecharunt is the recent mythical despite it being an epilogue to the Teal Mask.

I still have no idea who tf this legendary is. I swear locking these shitmons behind DLC (and event tickets before) is such a bad idea. I still don't know what tf the deal is with Meloetta.

>>57307596
The point is that Arceus, Deoxys, Keldeo Phanapy, and Melonetta are forever Mysticals because they debuted as Event Pokémon; monsters you can only obtain through specific events.

>>57309496
Legendary Pokémon are usually those you can only capture once and could never be breed in captivity; the prime example are the legendary birds with the same capture rate as fucking Mewtwo.

>>57307076
I won't go back over Terapagos and Calyrex, because I've already developed them in a previous post and they don't have such obvious links with their duo as Necrozma and Zygarde, who are quite explicit.

Concerning Zygarde, they all have the color code black + (green/blue/red), and can form a letter with their body (X, Y and Z). They have an aura-based abilitiy dynamic that strengthens their bond.
Each species, in terms of inspiration, refers to creatures from the Norse mythology of Yggdrasil.
Symbolically, you have one that gives vital energy and is comparable to an incarnation of biological existence, whose appearance is similar to a deer and a tree. The other absorbs vital energy and represents the death of living beings. Both notions are necessary in the cycle of life: species are born to give life (like Xerneas symbolically), they kill to eat and one day, they die (like Yveltal). These are the laws that govern ecosystems in relation to the species that live there and their environment.
Zygarde is the guardian of the ecosystem. He is the embodiment of order, and his complete form is reminiscent of a balance with death (red & black) on one side, like Yveltal, and life (blue & black) on the other, like Xerneas. The white/green center is a form of neutrality, and an abundance of life in certain species is detrimental to the ecosystem food chain, as are excessive losses in one link. There's a balance to be maintained.
What's funny is that instead of touching on vital energy directly, it's based on a cell mechanism (which are the smallest components of living organism).
It's a bit like Rayquaza, a green snake that ensures order between red and blue forces, which are opposed by nature, and which at the same time protect the planet from other threats: for Rayquaza, it's the ozone layer and external threats such as meteorites, whereas Zygarde is more internal and can take care of humans or creatures (like Ultra Beast) that threaten him directly.

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>>57309496
It's better than doing fucking nothing with them in the base version and then selling you another full-price game with minor changes just so they can cram in a story for the third legendary you need to replay the entire game for

>>57309441
Because they're not legendaries

>>57309633
All mythicals are not legendaries.

>>57309541
Apart from the fact that Necrozma and the whole Cosmog family come from Ultra Space and are the only ones to canonically open Ultra Whormholes in the games. They're all closely linked to light!
Let's start with Cosmog, who is a nebula, like a baby star. It needs to feed on light to grow, and can also absorb dust to grow. It then becomes Cosmoem, a proto-star, the future heart of a star when part of the nebula concentrates at a point of gravity. It too absorbs light to grow.
Then we have Solgaleo and Lunala, who represent envoys from the lunar and solar stars, but not only that: they manipulate light with skill, because they embody the light of these stars. Ultimately, it's the life cycle of celestial bodies (stars).
Solgaleo shines and imitates the sun, his lush, nature-giving light capable of illuminating the darkest nights, while Lunala's body can absorb the light of the brightest day and turn it into a dark night, then gently reflect some of it to imitate the full moon. This is what their luminous form represents when they use their signature ability, forms that glow with golden light, like Necrozma in his Ultra form (which is initially his true power).
Necrozma himself is a kind of embodiment of photon/light in the broadest sense.

Before being shattered by Ultra Recon, Necrozma was worshiped as "The Blinding One" and sent his light across all dimensions, even to our world (Alola) and the Ultra Burst is what comes closest to its original appearance.
In fact, Necrozma and the entire Cosmog family have a very similar energy, which is why Broken Necrozma can parasitize them and control their bodies, forcing them to assume their light form permanently to drain their light.

The logo of Pokémon Sun resembles Solgaleo from the front and its mane, where that of Moon resembles Lunala. On his back, Necrozma has a symbol that resembles a burst of light that resembles the shape of his face in Ultra form.
They are all venerated as deities who bring benefits linked to the stars and light (even if Necrozma then turned bad).
Some see the different interactions of light (diffuse, refract, reflect, absorb, diffract, etc.)
We also have this symbolism of day-night cycles (Solgaleo day, Lunala night, and the forms of Necrozma Dusk and Damn). Knowing that luminosity and the stars are linked to that.
Necrozma also has the temperature of a star in its Ultra form, it diffuses white light. And is also known as a prism to divide the spectrum of light (its eyes in Ultra even refer to it). They all (Ultra) and Solgaleo and Lunala have gold and a white tint on their bodies.
All defensive abilities like Spectral Shield, Metal Body and Prism Armor. Except that of Ultra which is the only offensive one to contrast (knowing that it refers to its brain, where the other two have a third eye on a skull with a cosmic background). They all have the psycho type, and in the end for us whether it is the nebulae, the proto-star, the sun, the moon, they are all points of light in the sky.
It's less deep than for Zygarde, but it's not bad, right?

>>57309802
what about Z-crystals are solidified pieces of Nercozuma (with some of them reacted to specific pokémon and moves like Mew and Eevee)?

Pokemon you can only catch one of = a legendary

carry the hell on... don't bother replying to me if you disagree

>>57309821
'Rotom was a legendary' ahh post.

>>57309633
technically, they're legendary Paradoxes like the Raidons; Cosmog, it's evolutions, and Necrozuma are legendary Ultra Beasts.

>>57309859
Rotom's more of a Sudowoodo or a Snorlax.

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>>57309821
*blocks you are path*
>>57309875
And those are not Legendary because...?

>>57309904
Bloodmoon is more of an legendary Ursaluna.

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>>57309924
You moved your goalposts twice already

>>57309948
the point is that Pokemon should either have legends behind them, or a very high catch rate as >>57309531 stated.

>>57306496
Irrelevant sublegendaries in the great scheme of things

>>57309875
Considered listing them, but there was more than one of them in their games. And they aren't gifts like Lapras or Eevee. You actually had to catch it and it was a secret pokemon that you only found one of.

>>57309865
>don't register as ultra beasts by a beast ball

Sounds fucky.

>>57310019
Yeah it's retarded. It's another case of ingame mechanics conflicting with lore. Lunala and Solgaleo are UBs in lore only.

>>57310019
seeing that those two are capable of interdimensional travel, I have a feeling that beast ball only work on pokemon with Beast boost.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE GUY

>>57283958
Then it wasnt a masterball