Palworld LOST
>>58232824Welp
>>58232824Who the fuck cares about Palworld here?It is clearly said that this patent can affect numerous other games.Why are Nintendo and TPC such jewish companies?
Does that mean every single game that has a pet class is now infringing on NintendoBurgers explain yourselves
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>>58232839>>58232848US patents means it doesn't apply to Japan. Honestly, this is based.
>>58232845Yes, and all From games with summon mechanics.
>>58232824So I can't make an indie game where monsters fight? That's fucking evil, they basically own the monster taming genre now in everything but name
>>58232824This is more Like EVERONE LOST.
>>58232857America is the one who made these retarded copyright laws to begin with. I see no issue with Japan beating them at their own game.
>>58232824Incredible!Guess we’ll have to rely on “huehuehue you’ll buy it anyway” as Pokémon’s defense for the next 10 years if legends za is dogshit
>Patenting Gameplay features or functionsThis is just a way of creating a virtual monopol by crippling the market.
>>58232883Dalit postI curse your karma for the next 10 kalpas
>>58232895keep seething while jeets replace all jap cuckswhat takeshi gon do hahahaha
>>58232824So what happens to shit like yugioh, digimon, smt, bayonetta, final fantasy and every other game that has a summoner class
Palworld really shook Nintendo to the core it seems
>>58232824>pokefags will defend thisYet another reason why pokefags are the most vile and disgusting creatures on the planet.
>>58232899You will never even make it back to Shudra
>>58232905You win some you lose some. Their legal history is a fun read. This is another one for the scrapbook.
>>58232905They're livid, it's hilarious
>>58232903See>>58232857
>>58232913that's okay, everyone will be a shudra once timmy and takeshi are ACKed by based jews
>>58232919But they do business in America
Neopets is never coming baaaaaaack!!!
Holy fuck we're definitely not getting a Raidou 3 now
>>58232824And nothing of value was lost.Yet. The autism of other companies following suit sounds like full retard waiting to happen
>>58232839>X-2 is actually about Yuna recovering from a lawsuitDeepest lore.
>>58232857>this is basedHow the fuck is this shitty patent based in any way? Are you a fucking Nintendo bootlicker?
>>58232903They have to pay licensing fees to Nintendo to release in the US.
>>58232824Idiots read into it in wrong way.Fact that Nintendo is flailing mindlessly to shit out new pattents is REVERSE of them winning. It means that every previous attempt to get upper hand on Palworld probably fizzled.This patent obviously will do absolutely nothing, too. Nintendo is losing.
This patent is baseless on multiple critical grounds>nebulous concept>they didn't invent this>this is a weird legal tactic to bolster their suit>the patent is being filed 25+ years laterThe only thing more retarded than this patent is the fact that it was granted
The funniest thing about this are the comments on other sites>I'm almost done with modern Nintendo >I'm getting close to fed up>I don't know how much more I can put up withAll with Nintendo pfp Absolute cattle
>>58233031I imagine it will be revoked before too long, or annulled or whatever the appropriate term is. It being granted is likely just an intentional first step to having the concept enter a legally protected public state, imo.
>>58233046I actually sat down and wrote to my congressman about this, I take serious issue with international businesses using the US legal system as a PVP enabled zone.FFS, I like pokemon, but this sets a really unhealthy precedent for patents as a whole.What's next? Google patenting the concept of a search engine? Microsoft the concept of an operating system? You might think I'm being hyperbolic but those aren't inappropriate comparisons on inspection
>>58232824What a stupid patent, are they gonna strike SMT/Persona too now? Despite that franchise being older than Pokemon
>>58232824Post or link the full text of the patent. Pokemon didn’t invent summoning characters to fight for you, so they shouldn’t be able to patent it. I bet there’s some clickbait going on here.
smt, dragon quest, and blue azure all had monster recruiting mechanics and monster battling mechanics before pokemon even existed
>>58233053This, they’re bottom feeders taking advantage of the US’ overly litigious and corporate bootlicking nature. Fucking SMOSH of all people took the piss at nintendo lawyers 15 YEARS AGOhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=2lFfF5XLsCQ
>>58233058I sent this from my eduDear Congressman (Name), I'm writing to you in regard to a recent patent, (US 12,409,387 B2), granted to Nintendo Co. Ltd and one of their subsidiaries. The patent in essence boils down to Nintendo et al claiming ownership of the concept of battling or summoning entities in a video game. My concern with the US Patent office granting this patent are as follows: 1. Allowing the patenting of a broad and nebulous concept. 2. Nintendo nor any of the other parties in the patent can claim this invention, it has been present in games at least a decade prior, and is too generic an idea to be patentable. 3. The granting of the patent 28 years after they first utilized the 'technology', well beyond the 20 year lifespan of a patent under the law. 4. It seems designed to leverage US laws to stifle competition internationally on a spurious basis. I believe this decision diminishes the integrity of the patent system, and I think it sets a bad precedent for IP law in general. I would really appreciate it if you could draw some attention to this issue, and ask some questions of the Patent Office regarding why this was even allowed. I would like this patent to be re-evaluated, under a more discerning set of eyes. I as a citizen see something like this filing and have to question how many similar patents pass through the system on a regular basis, and that is concerning. On a personal note, I've had a deep appreciation for technological innovation since I was very young, as a kindergartner at (School) in (City), I said that when I wanted to grow up, I wanted to be a scientist, and I'm happy to say I fulfilled that dream. I place incredible value on the ability of people to innovate, and to benefit from their innovation, while also benefiting people as a whole. To me, this is not innovation, it is an uncompetitive ploy by a billion dollar company, and to be frank, it's a little upsetting. Thank you for your time, God Bless, (My Name)
How the fuck is this even legal? This can't possibly be legal, you can't retroactively declare a patent on something that hundreds of other video games have already done for decades.
>>58233075Meant for: >>58233068
>>58232989It's about as based as a 'take that!' jumpscare. There's a 97% chance that this movement will have no impact or relevance to anything. If tone paid even the slightest attention to ameripol lately, that would be blatantly obvious.
>>58233084>if tone>if you
This entire thing is engineered just to be an attempt of Nintendo to bleed out Pocketpair/Palworld Corporation in the court. Nintendo literally CANNOT win this battle in a fair way so they drag it out inventing new bullshit in hopes that Palworld will run out of money or their lawyers will fuck up?Huge issues - 1. Palworld is directly connected now to Sony and few other entities. 2. There are multiple other Palworld-esque titles soon to be released by various publishers. Even if Nintendo will win against Pocketpair, they will be forced to immediately jump into legal brawl with Ubisoft and motherfucking Mihoyo. They just don't have money for this gauntlet.I don't understand what Nintendo's lawyers are doing. Is that some kind of misaligned pride?
>>58233101They're trying to manufacture expo facto grounds for their suit>look look, the patent office says we own this your honor!It's such a fucking cynical move and I'm appalled that it's been allowed to progress to this stage.
This really proves that nintendo is shitting their pants in fear and lashing out to try everything they can to hold on to their self-inflicted suicide of the pokemon IP. The Palworld lawsuit must be going really badly for nintendo.
>>58233104Except this will literally never fly because any semi-decent lawyer will point out that they patent stuff they were producing for almost 30 years just now and that there are literal hundreds of other games using the same mechanics.Are Nintendo lawyers just that fucking retarded or is it Nintendo itself that is so desperate to win that they just forcefeed lawyers with millions of dollars just to keep this case alive?
>>58233132>Are Nintendo lawyers just that fucking retarded or is it Nintendo itself that is so desperate to win that they just forcefeed lawyers with millions of dollars just to keep this case alive?They're losing in Japan so they're trying to take advantage of the usa being a banana republic to get away with this bullshit.
>>58232824>summons a character to battle for you
>>58233140>They're losing in JapanNo way, everyone knows they're like Disney who have been fucking with the public domain law because they own (at the very least) a lot of judges and politicians
How about they make actual good quality products that outsell Palworld, instead of having to go into court against them cause they are beating the shit out of you?
thankfully, japan is a dying cuckhole with abysmal birth rates and soon they will be flooded with jeets (who will then take over ninshitdo and start producing slop for the timmy cucks in west)they deserve everything that's cominggod speed, bless the kikes for doing the sneedful
>>58233160Palworlds lawyers have been doing a good job so far. Their defense is strong, claiming that the patents aren't valid and even if they were, they don't apply to Palworld. If nintendo were winning it would have been over by now and there would be more coverage.
>>58233160>Teh public domainNigga, Japanese law is not the same as American or even European laws. Reality is that a lot of lawyers in Japan are hardcore numberfags and are known to drop cases at even slight possibility of losing. In this case there's no slight possibility, it's basically the fact that Nintendo is trying to intimidate everybody with nothing.
>>58233171>How about they make actual good quality products that outsell Palworldbest we can do is Scarlet/Violet
>>58232824>Pokémon and Nintendo win by poisoning the well, pulling the ladder up from beneath them and exploiting common ignorance of every game that came before it with this mechanic like Psychic War and Megami Tensei>Spiteful cultists like OP just thinks this only affects PalWorld
>>58232863I've been asking for more games and anime/manga with summons or monster pet battles, because it looks as if Pokémon owns the market with a monopoly (with smt and Digimon being thrown a bone every decade or so) AND THEY GO AND TRY TO FURTHER CEMENT THAT MONOPOLY? It's crazy. The market LACKS choices but they don't want the remote possibility of us enjoying something other than Pokémon, yet they refuse to make good games.
>>58232845The headlines are generally over-simplified. "Making characters battle for you" is too generic to patent. The actual patent has a bunch of specifications about exactly HOW the mechanics have to work for them to infringe upon Pokemon.Like the last controversy, they liked to claim Nintendo had a patent on capturing monsters. But in reality, it the PLA capture mechanics that were copyrighted. It had to include the specific aiming system, the "hit them in the back for a greater capture chance", and a few other things for it to infringe.That's why Palworld quickly changed how their not-Pokeballs worked to differentiate them from PLA's capture mechanics.
>>58233227Let it be said that they're not THAT specific, Gamefreak is still being a bitch about it. It's common sense to me for example that you should be able to aim to throw the capture device and that hitting the monster in the head / back / from behind would weaken it.This feels as if Capcom had tried to patent RE4's third person shooter mechanics, with laser aiming and headshots / QTEs if the enemy staggers being copyrighted. They are generic mechanics that could apply to every shooter and have rightfully done so. For games about catching or using pets for battle, the stuff Pokémon is patenting are things that would make sense in other games of the same genre.
Conspiracy incoming:Palworld was created by Nintendo. By blaming a fake company Nintendo eventually had a reason to pull off patents in order to monopolize gaming.
>>58233426Mega victrebells poison can melt steel beams
>>58232824>>58232845No, the patent is only for creatures that ypu keep on yourself while they're shrinked and that you unshrink to battle for you.Other monster franchises are fine.
>>58233651List the monster franchises that are still relevant where you DONT keep your creatures on yourself while you travel.
>>58233075"Oh, and denial is implicit support of totalitarianism."
>>58233031Remember this.Rules are for peasants
>>58232824Patents like this are easily thrown out if it can be presented that it was pre-existing before the patent. This is actually nothing.
>>58233274>Let it be said that they're not THAT specific, Gamefreak is still being a bitch about it. It's common sense to me for example that you should be able to aim to throw the capture device and that hitting the monster in the head / back / from behind would weaken it.It's not "being able to aim the device". It's specifically the exact aiming style in PLA, where you toggle into an aiming mode and a cursor appears on the ground that shows your ball throw. It has to have exactly that AND the increased capture rate from behind (not just damage. It's specifically increased capture rate). Not just one. Both used in conjunction is what's copyrighted.
>>58233680Dragon Warrior Monster and Digimon. DWM has your monsters follow you on foot and Digimon either does the same or you use a communication device to access the central server they're stored in and digitalize them into battle.Even less relevant franchises like Yokai Watch just had you teleport the monster to you instead of carrying them.
>>58232824...Alright. this has been getting more and more retarded. Going to finish the games i have on my switch and then sell it.
>>58233171The funny part is that if they'd put the money they put towards this legl battle into the games to make them good they'd have avoided the massive amount of brand damage they're currently eating and probably would have easily outperformed palworld thanks to their established IP. This was entirely self-inflicted by laziness and a staunch refusal to improve when that laziness was challenged.
Palworld has nintendo shook more than Yokai Watch lmao.These are the death throes of an animal that does not accept its set fate. Nothing more dangerous than an injured animal.
Can't nintendo and pocketpair just settle the dispute with a boxing match?
>>58232824Palbros... not like this..
>>58233426Way too elaborate
>those building modelsReally?
>>58233222Japanese's economic history is like reading Capitalism's death on fast forward. They discovered they no longer need to bother to sell good products, they just have to corner the market and become the ONLY choice available.This (sadly) only opens an underground market for cheap-yet-reliable similar products. They will only crack harder until the lawyer fees are more expensive than the sale of the product, creating a bubble and exploding, leaving only two choices: die and escape with your golden jet and parachutes, or live as a zombie by cornering a small yet passionate market, like plushies or pachinko machines.
>>58232905It's a lot harder to sue for plargarism even though its obvious Palworld ripped the models from Pokemon. The Pokemon Company ae seeking other ways to destroy Palworld.
Sega and Bandai would destroy them in court if they try to enforce this shit
>>58234132and they'll be punished for their hubris because of how many other people's toes this steps on
>>58233680There's Shin Megagay Tensai games, Digimon stuff, Dragon Quest Monster and those Monster Hunter pokemon things?
Sony should do something similar and patent movies.
>>58232824Too generic. They'll never be able to enforce it. All it does is give them an excuse to start frivolous lawsuits.
>>58234271Anon maybe you shouldn't talk about games you've never played, two of those do the exact shit your dumbass is saying they don't.
>>58233952They’re like bullies; too weak to work on themselves so they take their insecurities out on other people. This time it’s way grander… and more judicial.
Nintendo will spend millions of dollars to strike down fan projects and competition instead of actually making anything good. The drones will feign remorse or even indignation when the boot drops on them, but they will cheer all the same.
>>58233952The Z-A trailers show that even with money, Gamefreak has no clue how to use it right now. They are literally using the 2015-19 American pop culture style, something that literally is dead and did not produced a single fucking product worth calling good. They are like 10 years too late to the trends that are proved to be poison for culture.Pokemon will fail because people behind it are boomers attempting to retrace things they don't understand.
Have any of you actually READ the patent instead of relying on headlines?
>>58236787One guy did. >>58233227But yeah, this is retarded clickbait, the actual patent describes in SV Pokemon summoning system in detail, it's not "Nintendo forbids you from having a magician enemy that summons a rabbit from a hat" like every failed journalist pretends.
>>58236787Why would anyone actually meaningfully engage with a topic when they can farm ragebait for engagement instead?This is Post-2016 US Elections internet, my good nigga, it's ALL engagement farming and zero substance.
>>58232824Failworld
>summoning characters and making them battle for youERM Jojosisters??? I thought we did it first????
>>58236964Ultraseven is basically the grandfather of "summoning characters to fight for you" as Japan most commonly knows it, and it was one of the core inspirations behind Pokemon's Poke Ball.
>>58233227>That's why Palworld quickly changed how their not-Pokeballs worked to differentiate them from PLA's capture mechanics.sheer fact this action occured means the patent should not have been granted.
>>58232965>>58233142>rockstar can't give GTA4 the DE treatment because befriending dwayne lets you summon his bodyguards>or they'll force you to side with playboy
>>58236768look up beast of reincarnation. It isn't incompetance, it's laziness.
