When did you realize too much water was a legitimate criticism and Hoenn babbies are spergs for turning it into a meme?>slow movement compared to land>uninteresting to explore compared to land>always chance of random encounter>low type diversity>have to load up your pokemon with multiple water HMs
>>58237961When I left Lilycove City back in Ruby
>>582379617.8 is too high.
>>58237961Realize? I always thought it was a legitimate criticism and I personally enjoyed the og hoenn games. I also think there's an overabundance of water type Pokémon (in general), but that's neither here nor there.But yeah. I never really understood why that became a meme (other than it coming from IGN.)
>>58237961I went the opposite direction. Was annoyed by it when I was younger, now I don’t mind it.
>>58237978>other than it coming from IGNThat and out of context "too much water" sounds like an absolutely absurd criticism for a video game.
I want to fill May up with too much water.
>>58237961Because now we never get water routes at all. Surfing from Fuchsia, going through the Seafoam Islands cave to get to Cinnabar Island in gen 1 was kino. Same with the interconnected Olivine and Cianwood section in Johto.
>>58237961>>slow movement compared to landI mean, if you compare it to when you use your bicycle, yeah, but otherwise you're exaggerating, surfing in RSE isn't that slow. Compare with the absolute chore that is surfing in DP (which, granted, doesn't have as many water surfaces, but still).A good chunk of the region being the ocean is honestly a cool concept that was executed a bit poorly. As you pointed out, 3 fucking water HMs is just too much; at the very least, diving should have been with the use of a device or something. It'd have been interesting if there were multiple mini-isles each with different wild mons, making exploration more worthwhile.
>>58237961I realized it when I was 4 years old and ran into my billionth Tentacool in Ruby
>>58239116>cutting out pedalburg woods, slateport, pacifidlog, shoal cave, sootopolis
>>58239102I don’t remember, does Victory Road need Waterfall as well?
>>58239116>what everyone claims to love but is really rng fillerbased
>>58239134You need Strength, Rock Smash, Surf and Waterfall. Flash isn't vital, but it's hard to do without if you don't know exactly where to go and what to do. RSE Victory Road is one of the most obnoxious when it comes to HMs.
>>58239150Did any of the other regions need that many for Victory Road? I can’t recall if B2W2 shit the bed as well.
>>58239154Maybe Sinnoh, though I don't recall exactly which HMs were needed. Gen 5 Victory Roads, on the other hand, were VERY merciful on that front (I think you don't even need one HM to go through BW Victory Road)
>>58239154you need 5 in gen 4 and defog for a postgame area you can get to without it
>>58239161what the fuck
>>58239130>Generic first steps linear slop that's a massive downgrade from previous Gens and and optional cave that is notable for hosting the only Ice types in the regionThe game actually becomes fun after you beat the guy in your image and stops after beating Winona
