Why is the SWSH game and story so hated?
>>58275836ONE DAY
>>58275836Because it's a UK based region let's be honest
LEON PLEASE IT HAS TO BE NOW
>storywhat story?
>Gamefreak swears it will be rich in content and polish to make up for Dexit>Is just upscaled 3DS game.>Entire plot conflict is because rich asshole can't wait a literal day to solve a problem that won't be an issue for 1000 years.
>>58275836The entire region was hallways (with one giant square area) and the final conflict made zero sense. Leon doesn’t show up to lunch or whatever and so you break into a tower while he’s in a meeting with the chairman? And Oleana and Rose’s employees suddenly turn evil and sinister while baiting you with the key, but she yells at you and decides to fight you so Leon will acquiesce? And then Rose activates the Evangelion dragon instead of waiting literally a single day for Leon to finish his match?
I kinda started it (emulator and one of those improved versions with more pokémon) and to be honest I don't really knowI think the footy stadium thing is super cringe and none of the gym leaders are cool, and it's obvious the indian guy is a villainthe indian rival is almost as annoying as hau which is why I'm dreading to advance into the story, he lost to the clearly gay guy sponsored by the indian and just changed his shitmon team to another shitmon teamthe raids in the open area are fun and the dojo old guy is also cool, but man what a chore it isit's better than scarlet/violet (pokémon compass in my case) but worse than USUM and somehow worse than XY
>>58275836stantler
I just wanted to make a thread for these games because they are the only ones I haven't played. There are a lot of mixed opinions, so I've held of from playing these. Is there anything these games are worth playing or are they a sure skip?
>>58276186Unless you want the retardedly OP Legendaries to move to SV, don't bother. The wild area is the only thing that makes it stand out from being a 3DS game on Citra and SV just expanded on that.
Is that...an energy crisis 1000 years from now???AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEE I'M GOING FUCKING INSAAAANE SAVE ME CHARIZARD
>>58275998Hahaha buzzwords!
>>58276186Found it much better than SV especially story-wise. Everything about SV is literally forgettable.It also feels very familiar like previous Pokémon gens and how it should
>>58276186nah there's nothing good about them except maybe some of the DLC features if you're into that sort of thing but that requires buying a full game and DLC just for them which lol
>>58276186Just look at walkthrough videos of you aren't sure how you feel about it. Ignore the Zoomer shills
>>58276192>>58276218>>58276225>>58276238Alright from what I've seen and what I've been reading so far, I don't think I would enjoy playing these. They look worse than XY and SM.
>>58276186It's slow, the catch rate is weirdly shitty, and it just feels like the whole affair was made on a shoestring budget. The wild area is small, has cartoonishly bad pop-in, poor performance, and feels like a work in progress. The post game is maybe half an hour of content. I got it used for cheap and was still disappointed.
>>58276288They are. 7 > 6 > 8 > a full session of unwanted CBT > 9
>>58276288If you like open world slop with a school setting go for SV
>>58275836here's how they could have fixed it>get rid of dexit>give the game off the bat a challenege mode, fits the theme of leon and the gyms with them being treated more like a sport>make Leons Ace be a new pseudo legend dragon, not Dragapult like an entirely new pokemon and not charizard or hell even a new legendary pokemon>make his team actually competitively good >the tournament should have been like the black and white 2 post game tournament idc>The rose story its pretty bog standard poke slop story telling>expand his character idk make him more like evil rich jew type, instead of some gay energy crisis shit make him want to monopolize energy for himself>make his team better and more competitive, say he was a failed trainer who lived in his brothers shadow which led him this point>wants to expand the pokemon league in galar to be global and make even more money while expanding his energy company thus making billions or whatever>ties in nicely with the post game and gives a reason for bringing back old characters>maybe also world build and show other past champions like mustard and stuffthats it really i think that would have made the games a lot more fun
>>58275836Well>Level design is terrible>Dex is terrible>Visuals are terrible>Character design is terrible>Writing is terrible>Then just to spit on its grave it was the first to cut the dex and a bunch of movesTo talk about the story in particular, it's one of the worst stories I've read in a video game. You have a few rivals here, the brownie, the girl, and the grandma boy. Brown is like if Hau had the defeatist attitude of Calem/Serena. No presence either way.The girl is literally just there, she doesn't do anything and barely has any character.Grandma boy was their attempt as a smug asshole rival except he gets disowned by his I guess father figure (the main """villain""" who pretends(?) not to remember him, no idea), then halfway through the game gets kidnapped by a witch and disappears until you're doing the game's equivalent of the elite four where he reappears as an entirely different character. He was then a lala prancing homo and replaced half his team. Very confusing.Then the actual plot. The main "conflict" of the game was that in 1000 years the sports energy will run out. Rose, the villain, had a talk with Leon, the sitting champion, about helping him with reviving an ancient evil to replenish the sports energy. Leon said yeah alright but not tomorrow I have to do the championship (i.e. elite four). Rose went "hmm, I think I do it anyway" and hijacked the championship to announce he is bringing about the darkest day, for the future of galar. The surge of sports energy caused chaos across the region due to pokemon suddenly being dynamaxed or something. You then have to ditch the champion battle to go off and capture the ancient evil and fight Rose is just like "alright I'll go to prison" and then you go back to fight Leon and the game ends. Why did he decide he had to do it that day? UhThere was also some weird post-game story starring the Bogdanoffs but I didn't read it.
>>58276218>Found it much better than SV especially story-wise.How.SV has an actually functional story, which is above most mainline pokemon titles (low bar). swoosh's story is actually embarrassing, the characters are maybe okay, but the actual plot is the worst of any pokemon game, and it's not even close.
>>58275998What gets me about the Leon dinner is instead of just rescheduling it for the next day we assault their company only to fucking reschedule it for the next day. It was so forced
>>58276417>Visuals are terrible>Character design is terrible>Writing is terribleAll of this applies to SV also. And the level designs.>>58277024Worst characters are in SV, I found them to be so insufferable. The game forces you to befriend them and I just really didn't.Let's not even mention the "muh daddy/mommy" issues as a storyline in S/V. That was just laughable
>>58275836Cause it's fucking shit? What kind if question is that? Lmao
>>58277118It wouldn't be that big of a deal if it wasn't an Alola repeat. Ohmori needs to fuck off and get actual psychiatric help because his games keep leaning into this shit. Even if SwSh didn't put it as the focus, it's the entire personality of Gordie, and that game is all about "oh I'm not capable of doing the things I want to do, so I'll just settle for less"
