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Walker Edition

>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>58785570

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
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>>58810324
First for Maractus a cute!
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>>58810332
hell yeah!
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Which deck would he play?
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'brina post
>>58810496
Alakazam is probably the closest thing to a "Magician" and its damage is dependent on the number of cards in your hand just like Slifer.
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>>58810511
doing god's work anon
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>genny dies because of no card art
>makes a new gen AGAIN without card art
holy fucking retard!
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>>58811002
I would have more to say if we discussed retro formats more often
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When did trainer cards start looking soulless?
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why did he consneed
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>>58811611
Had to take a shit
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Pocket has it right where you get points for KO'ing a Pokemon. Prize cards are a shit mechanic.
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You know what really grinds my klinklang? That delay during an action after you concede. Pisses me off even when my game is muted!
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>>58811674
What's a Klinglang, anon?
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play a new card game already, faggot!
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>>58811676
you must be going crazy that clearly says klinklang
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>>58811679
It's okay, anon. I'll keep your secret
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>>58811674
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FUCKING KINOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Misty sisters we got too cocky...
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?
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>>58811678
is there a card game for lillie enjoyers
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>>58811692
mega + helmet cucked by an orange mouse
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>>58811692
>>58801073
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>>58811743
>>58811705
sorry for my misdirected spergposting LOL
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>>58810496
Lost zone Giratina
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whoever designed this card needs to get kicked in the mouth 3 times every second this card is still allowed to be played
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>>58812485
this card is literally unplayable it does not have the support to pull obsidian and the mill has gotten me more times than helped
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>>58813122
seriously what were they thinking?
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Has there ever been a good Vanilluxe card?
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>>58813563
Not really.
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>>58810324
Any idea to make a deck around her? I find her ability and attacks very interesting and for some reason I own two of these promo cards which look pretty cool.
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>>58813125
it was that or a tera max potion item
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>>58813652
Why do they hate my boy?
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>>58813808
It's stupid looking, everyone clowned on pokemon designs for months when he got revealed.
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Remember to check the shop. Not that great of a deal but the game gives so much shop currency now that it doesn't matter.
>260 for 3 packs, limit 2
>2600 for 20 packs, limit 1
>260 for 3 packs, limit 2
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>>58813808
It's just luck of the draw sometimes. Everyone's bound to get a good card eventually.
>>58813848
Rude.
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>>58813122
Pour one out for Technical Machine Machine when all the other TMs rotate and Fluorite is the only one it can find.
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>>58814010
>inb4 TM Devo reprint later this year
>No TM Evo, tho
A man can dream.
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GLC
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>>58814060
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>>58814192
kek thanks. Glad you're still here bro
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There is nothing more satisfying than when your opponent doesn't read your cards. Klefki doesn't shut off Golduck, chief
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>>58814221
I don't know if he is actually. The usual guy posts memehone.png not Gym Leader Challenge.png though he did post at the end of november which really wasn't that long ago.
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I'm going to Toronto for the regional

mite b fun
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>>58813875
Most are still just worse than buying celebrations
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Thoughts, sharPedobros?
I really feel I can cut at least 1-2 cards here for one more Energy, or a Tool Scrapper.
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>>58815628
Cut mega signal and one mega sharpedo. You already run 4 ultraball and 4 arven, don't really need more consistency than that.
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>>58815628
I usually play 8 dark energy in mine to make sure I have enough energy for toxtricity's ability
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Mega clefable/starmie soon
They'll make sure psychic is still the best type after gardevoir rotates haha
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>>58816327
>>58816059
Thanks.

Thoughts on adding a Mega Kanga in there?
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>recently added frillish to my gardevoir deck
>it's the best thing to do when there are no good plays
>suddenly gholdengo players are conceding perfectly winnable gamestates
>winning but I'm not sure why

I think people just have a weak mental
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>>58817214
I mean what the fuck can they do? They can't use Energy Search Pro, Vessel or Superior Energy Retrieval. They can take a few knockouts until they run out of using Energy and by that point you have 3 powered up Munkis on the bench.
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>go second
>poffin for Museum Chu and a Slowpoke
>The Best Collection, open up my binder and put Neo Genesis Slowking into my hand
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>>58817844
that eevee looks retarded
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>>58817853
That's the sovl
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>>58817844
>>58817853
>>58817892
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I've been thinking about learning the game and getting a deck
Should I get one of those pre-con decks to start?
But the more important question, is the game even fun?
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>>58818054
Depends which precon deck.

As for the game mechanics itself, it's pretty fun but other TCGs have more fun mechanics, I'd say. The benefit of Pokemon is it's relatively simple compared to many others. So the fun is in the simplicity and comparative cheap costs to other TCGs.
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>>58818054
Give the online client a try to see if you think the games fun, you get like 8 free decks to start with and it's super f2p crafting anything else you need to upgrade modify those decks into modern decklists
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>>58818054
go to a local league and chat with the guys there
get a alakazam or goldhengo list and buy the cards for cheap to get started
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>>58818114
And what precon would be better? At my locals I saw a diancie and Mewtwo precon deck

>>58818135
True, is there a mobile build I can play during downtime at work?

>>58818311
I also thought about starting with something cheap and simple and then getting a meta deck
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>>58813563
Piling Snow will be him, trust me bro 2026 is the year of the spread
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>>58818661
There are meta decks that are pretty simple (if not outright braindead) like goldengho although I wouldn't recomend getting that as it will rotate out next april.
Try out Kangaskhan/Bouffalant, it's a pretty easy to pilot deck, on the cheap side and will net you lots of wins at locals as most shitters can't one shot a 410hp behemoth.
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>>58818738
I didn't know pokemon had set rotation, how does it work?
I was planning on playing while waiting for a yugioh release in april-may so I could try with the goldengo
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>>58818772
Cards have a little regulation mark on their bottom right corner. Those with a "G" regulation mark will stop being legal for standard play around april. This happens on a yearly basis so in april 2027 "H" cards will rotate out and so on. Usually a card has 2/3 years from release until it rotates out.
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>>58818779
It's kinda confusing, I guess it's because yugi has a banlist and everything else is legal

I'm looking at some list and some are pretty much the same price as a precon decks, are the precon even worth it?
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>>58818951
The dragapult one? Yeah
The Mewtwo, Marnie and Gengar? Barely
Anything else not really.
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>>58818965
And why the fuck does the price change so much?
The same product It's $30 in one place $40 in another and $70 somewhere else
Are scalpers that much of an issue?
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>>58819037
>Are scalpers that much of an issue?
Yeah.
Just get singles if you don't find a good price.
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Why did they decide to give us 3 more years of Artazon?
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>>58818951
>are the precon even worth it?
I got 3 of the Mewtwo Precons for under $30. I threw together a Mewtwo deck out of two and gave the other to someone as a Christmas present. With Pokemon you either have to preorder (for packs/ETBs) or buy them when they're under MSRP after release because scalpers are retarded and don't know what is and isn't going to sell.
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>>58819115
Nah, it's not nearly the same. Sacrificing your attack phase is too much of a price for most decks. Guess it will help slower ones I guess.
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what does mega cleffairy and starmie do?
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>>58819296
Info isn't released yet.
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>>58813661
Anyone?
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>>58819115
>Put mon onto bench
>Turn ends
>Can't even attach to it
This stadium is hot garbage and will never be used outside stall/control
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>>58818661
>is there a mobile build I can play during downtime at work?
There is
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pokemon.pokemontcgl&hl=en

Obviously a bit squished compare to PC / irl card layouts to accommodate for the phone but the gameplay is the same
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Pocket retard visiting, does your game even do resistances anymore? I remember them being a thing in the original game but haven't seen a recent card with one in ages with it just blank so it's like what's the point?
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>>58820168
Why make a post with a retarded question you can easily look up in seconds just to make a clown of yourself?
Yeah, they still do resistances although they aren't as game defining as weakness. Exhibit A : >>58813661
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>>58813661
Put it in Pecharunt Ex Slop with an Air Balloon?
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>>58817928
I have this card.
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>>58819115
Nestball dies for this
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[W] Jet Blow: 120 damage. This attack does 50 damage to 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokemon. (Don't apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)

[C][C][C] Nebula Beam: 210 damage. This attack's damage isn't affected by Weakness, Resistance, or any effects on your opponent's Active Pokemon.

What a triple acceleration energy beggar
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Ability: Sniper Eye
If your opponent has exactly 4 cards in their hand, ignore all [C] in this Pokemon’s attack costs.

[G][C][C][C] Crush Arrow: 240 damage. Discard an Energy from your opponent's Active Pokemon.

>Judges you
>Attacks for 1 energy
Nothing personal kid
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>>58820707
+20 HP for grass pokemon
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>>58820707

can also relincanth and snipe 90 for free, mite b cool
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Ability: Wash Out
As often as you like during your turn, you may move a [W] Energy from your Benched Pokemon to your Active Pokemon.

>We have armarogue at home
Is there even any water acceleration for this? Bax is rotating.
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>>58820713
It's neat there's a grass deck that isn't just another ogrepon energy stacking deck
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>>58820696
death to budew
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pokebeach's transaltion had me spooked for a second, I thought Spewpa was gonna sit there for 45 turns until someone decked out
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>>58820790
They really love half-assing translations just to be the first one publishing the article. Always double check when reading their translations.
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>>58820713
Oh shit you're right, that is pretty cool. Hand disruption + killing off basics and stage 1s in a TM Evo-less meta sounds harsh.
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>>58820861
>There's a 70 HP one
it's got a chance of being a deck then.
There's only 80 HP seels so that'd need some good acceleration to be worth it
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This scares the Alakazam player

>Once during your turn, you may have your opponent shuffle their hand and put all of those cards on the bottom of their deck. Then, your opponent draws 4 cards.
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>>58820926
marshadow at home
>GLC
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>>58820926
This with forest plus absol could be degenerate. You'd lose out on munkidori space but you'd have control over their hand
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>>58820711
>500hp Mega Venusaur
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>>58821117
Still gets two shot by any Mega and one shot by Mega Charizard X.
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Triangle metas are so gay, I fucking swear
>spread beats single prizers
>Dark beats spread
>Metal beats Dark
It's like every single deck you choose is an auto loss against one third of the meta.
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thats not a triangle meta bro and that shit aint even true to begin with
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>>58821229
Pecharunt ex is just way too strong an is only going to get stronger when Dengo gets rotated.
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>>58821329
Square meta then.
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ded
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what do you expect? Everyone is let down Spewpa can't lock for the entire game
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Rotation April 10th
March 26th online
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>>58822099
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2026-pokemon-tcg-standard-format-rotation-announcement

>Possible expanded return irl
>PTCGL actually mentioned to exist too
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>>58821229
Single prizers beat Metal decks.
Metal decks beat Dark decks.
Dark decks beat Psychic and spread decks.
Psychic and spread decks beat single prize decks.
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>Single prize decks
We have those? lol
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No, because they almost always get gatekept by the meta spread decks. But otherwise
>Typhlosion
>Crustle
>Alakazam
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can we not normalize saying retarded shit that doesnt mean anything just to keep the thread bumped
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Who asked?
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Finally got my hands on a tool scrapper. Kangaskhan/Bouffalant have popped up in in my locals now so I'll have to put them in their place eventually. Kind of on the fence about putting Enhanced Hammer back in and what I would cut for it.
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>>58823212
People should just post cards if they want to bump the thread.
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>>58823418
Instead of talking about actual game strategy?
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>>58823442
At this point I'm just waiting for rotation, but do you guys think mega Kangaskhan could be viable for Alakazam?
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>>58823732
That combination makes no sense. The main use for mega Kang is as a draw engine with the Pecharunt Ex engine. It's not even the best draw engine available right now.
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>>58823732
Kanga needs it's babysitter latias, zam doesn't have that kinda bench space. Dudunsparce is still in standard and with the loss of iono it's gonna be stronger. No artazan will make getting dunsparces out harder but you'll have poffin and pokepad still at the cost of one card in hand
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>>58824130
How powerful would this be in the current meta?
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>>58822932
How does a single prizer dark deck fare against metal then?
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>>58823263
Isn't MegaKhan already weak against fighting? You shouldn't be having any trouble against it.
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>>58823263
This Lucario list is fucking terrible. You have zero consistency.
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>>58824276
Probably a bit worse than Miltank was since it's a stage 2, but it'd be good for catching someone off guard.
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>>58825030

we literally have mimikyu and nobody uses it anymore, there is simply too much shred
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>>58825863
>Give all the wall pokemon shred attacks to let mew all bypass them
>Give all the new mons shred attacks too like lopunny or starmie
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I don't get why Dragapult is considered the best deck going into rotation. It's a Stage 3 that only does 260 for 2 energy. There are stage 1s that can do that and don't need an entire stun engine to play. N's Zoroark and Lucario absolutely ass rape it.
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>>58825863
Completely forgot Mimikyu even existed precisely because nobody uses it. Power creep sucks.
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>>58825949
People think it'll be the best because drakloak is still around. Dusknoir versions still function as well
No hawlucha, iono and counter catcher make it a ton worse people are underestimating. You can't just wipe their entire board now
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>>58825949
It loses no Pokemon and gains Pokepad. Every deck will suffer losing TM Evo, Iono, Arven, Artazon, etc. so it'll have to be something all decks go through, but Pult doesn't lose essential pieces to how the deck wins. Also Meowth for Crispin will be huge for it.
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>>58825964
>how the deck wins.
It wins by counter catch getting a 4+ prize turn. Add in iono to guarantee the win.
It loses all that, you have to boss to hit what you want now or you're stuck hitting into 340+ HP megas
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>>58825977
It won't need to in a format that doesn't have OHKOs. It won't have to worry about a Drifloon or Gholdengo swinging for knockouts to brand new Pults and thus will have more turns for Munkis. The only decks that will be able to OHKO it are Lillie's Clefairy decks, which is can just kill, and Mega Zard X, which droips dead once Pult kills Oricorio.
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Personally I'll be playing Arboliva Dusknoir. I only lost Arven, Iono, Defiance Band, and Counter Catcher so 9 cards, and I can replace those pretty easily except for the latter two. It has been working out for me in this format so it should at least be better positioned in the next one.
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>>58825995
>Lopunny ghosts
>Terabox clefairy
>Meganium
>Lucario
>Sharpedo
>Charizard x
>Alakazam
>Absol ohkos
>Froslass is capable if you don't play around it
In a format where you want to ko stage1 330 hp megas, stage2 330s like dragapult are caught in the crossfire. There's plenty of decks able to ohko it then even before all the new decks that'll pop up
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>>58826028
Lopunny loses Jet and has a horrendous matchup into Pult.
Tera Box has a terrible matchup into every Mega deck and chaining Clefairies is going to be difficult.
lol Meganium
Lucario has to overextend to OHKO and then is stuck
Shardpedo sucks
Zard X is the only problem deck but killing Oricorio will be a big problem for it
Alakazam is one of its easiest matchups
Absol is only slightly unfavorable
Froslass isn't good

It loses to Gholdengo and Gardy. Post rotation its worst matchup is KangaBouf and is downright heavily favored into most else remaining.
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>>58826045
Meganium will be a real deck this year, trust. The time of grass is finally upon us.
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>>58826045
You're only thinking of current power level. You really underestimate how much dragapult relies on counter catcher for it's slow budew plan
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I wanted to build a few simpler casual decks but I don't want to just jam each of them with Pokemon I like, any ideas?
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>>58826060
Learn how decks are constructed and what makes a good Pokemon.
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>>58826075
What I'm saying is I'm looking for ideas which Pokemon/cards to look at that are more unique and play a little differently, I don't know all the cards.
Like pic related, it's probably not strong, which is fine because I'm aiming for casual deck, but the goal of putting some energy in your discard pile plays a little bit differently.
I'm not looking for "good" Pokemon, I'm looking for fun/interesting stuff that wouldn't fly in a competitive tournament.
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>>58826114
There are a few cards that enable goofy wincons. I think the baby GX cards have it, there's the beast game tag team that requires you to have like 8 energy attached, etc.
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>>58826114
apples to have a decent chance at winning
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They literally reprinted Greninja Break as a three prizer without Shadow Stitching
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Ninja Spinner confirmed for a set with completely useless dogshit supporters
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>>58826623
>Mortal shuriken your active mega
>Absol ohko
>Battle stadium doesn't even stop this
>Mist energy has rotated also
kek

>Able to hit 200 to 2x weakness mega zard

This card is pretty meta defining. We're bound to get some water support too
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>>58826639
Also works with the tera greninja since that deck is floating around a bit more
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>>58826651
>Tera greninja hits 170 as a fighting table
>Able to cover the lightning weaknesses
>Mortal shuriken into mirage barrage can ko a meowth on bench
Greninja's gonna be damn good
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>>58826623
>200 to active
>60 to bench
whoa it's water pult
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>>58826623

Boring
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>>58826749
At least greninja's cool unlike the dumb lizard
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>>58826623
CRI is the May/June set? Perfect order is POR.
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>>58826853
How do we have pictures for a card that doesn't even have a Japanese announcement yet and hasn't been announced on Pokebeach yet?
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>>58826858
Brother they are currently designing cards for Pokemon that come from a game that isn’t even announced yet.
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>>58826858
Someone stole them from the factory
We had English destined rivals leaks before journey together. Black white sets were leaked early too. Bubble mew from 151 was also leaked long before. It's happening a lot lately
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>>58826886
Yea but we have also known of that game's existence (which is going to be ass) since what? 2023?
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somebody wants to trade me a starly. If I trade them a starly, would it create progress in both our Themed missions?
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>>58826911
also, just pulled this awesome dude!
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>>58826911
>>58826913
also wrong thread
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>>58826915
my bad, no idea how I mistook this with the Pocket thread
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TR Mewtwo will dominate after rotation, mark my words.
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>>58827153
I really enjoy this deck but my list is probably too schizo and off meta for any legitimate discussion.
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>>58827153
How conditioned 280 is gonna dominate the meta?
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>>58827317
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>>58827330
k
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>>58827362
No one plays that.
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>>58827330
Zoroark runs a similar strat but is easier to set up and can use dark box.
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[R] Nasty Plot: Search your deck for up to any 2 cards and put them into your hand. Then shuffle your deck.

[R][R] Fatal Nail: 100 damage. Your opponent's Active Pokémon is now Poisoned and Burned. Switch this Pokémon with one of your Benched Pokemon.
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>>58827928
260 is in OHKO range by half of the meta. It doesn't get played in any meta where Zoroark, Pult, Zard-X, or Lucario are present.
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>>58827928
This plus the new supporter could be neat. Pull something in somehow, retreat lock it with the supporter, then use this and pivot into a wallmon. Good? Probably not, but the gimmick is there.
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>>58826623
>eats a passho berry in your path
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>>58828116
passho does not block damage counters
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>>58826639
Mist Energy is H block. Survives this rotation.
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When is expanded coming back to the west I don’t want to go to Japan to participate in expanded…
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regular pokemon battles wehn
I'm sick of effect stacking for win condition
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this list basically always beats dengo and gardy but i'm worried about some of the lesser used decks like absol box. any advice for what I should change about it ahead of the toronto regional?
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>>58828351
How does this deal with any deck with ghosts? Like Zard?
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>>58828357
they're basically always trading 1 for 1 on prizes, if they use it to kill a maushold ex they're still taking a bunch of damage from solidarity and i get a prize from knockout. then i win the prize race with my family attack mice
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>>58828351
Perhaps a Fan Rotom or two to grab your mice and Dunsparces and cheese (no pun intended) some donks here and there?
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>>58828390
i was running fan rotom initially but it always felt a little mid. i might add one in again and see how it feels cause ive made a few changes here and there since taking it out
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What exactly beats ZardNoirOwl consistently?
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>>58828573
Anything that can target the bench early consistently to get rid of hoothoot and whichever of the latter two is the weak link. Arboliva (also OHKOs zard with ignition energy if you ping their charmanders early), Greninja, maybe turbo hydreigon but I wouldn't rec that one
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>>58828631
That's a lot of ifs. Primarily, needing to go first every time and setting up before they evolve even their first owl.
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>>58828573
ko pidge then iono
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>>58828642
Not really. I've been playing the deck for the past couple of weeks and it's far more likely in my experience to win off the first attack or two versus these decks that take a bit longer to set up like owl decks or garde/dragapult. Needing to ping the charmanders is the only real if and that's just one option out of the lot you have to choose from.
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>>58828573
Rotation
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Pokebros, how do you guys source sealed product without getting assraped on the price? I basically switched over from mtg back to Pokémon this year when me and my bros stopped playing mtg as much and me and my actual brother started collecting Pokémon again. Cynthia Best Girl
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>>58828682
>first turn of Zard player
>2 baby owls are benched and 2 Charmanders are benched
>by their second turn they evolved at least one Charmander, Pidgeot or owl
What now? Gust or bench snipe by turn 2 is a pipe dream.
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>>58826624
Roxie with an item locker essentially buys you an entire turn. The only outs to that is pecharunt or surfing beach if you can't evolve out of the poison. Or if people start running surfer/az's tranquility once turo/penny rotation
Brute bonnett and clodsire are rotating tho so there's no bench poison applier. but that's potentially scary
AZ is generally just a worse surfer in most scenarios

>>58827928
If fire had some budget acceleration again like magma basin again this would be good, flygon being a stage2 is just too much work for hit and run decks
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I need rotation and Perfect Order right now so I can play the updated CynthiaChomp and Palafin/Muinkis in a format without Ghold and Gard cancer.
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>>58826623
>Palafin really thought this was his
LOL

All water needs is a good cheap attacker like suicune v and greninja is taking over like in pocket
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>>58826639
That sounds pretty absurd. Is there any counter to this besides waiting 2 years for Mega Absol to rotate out?
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>>58828945
Toedscruel ex and Empoleon.
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>>58828953
Toedscruel ex is getting rotated out soon.
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>>58828967
Seeing both toedscruel rotate will be sad.
We need a reprint of this one to stop night stretcher abuse. It's like when lost city rotated.. I miss being able to punish people abusing 1 offs
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This is your last chance to sell your regulation G decks and staples, don't be left holding the bags!
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Are electric decks really that bad in the current meta? Manectric ex can hit for 330, Zeraora can snipe benched Fez, Iron Hands clipping baby mons...

Is setting up multiple Eelektriks really that difficult?
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>>58829240
The other meta decks are just too oppressive, gardevoir can ohko your stuff with 1 prizers and dragapult eats your eels. Electric generator is bricked vs item lock also since electro decks are turbo there's not much reliance on supporters to set up.
Too bad it loses practically everything to rotation, iron hands, miraidon, electric generator, mew.
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Newfag here.
Like 3 cards away to a working Mega Lopunny deck.
I enjoy playing tempo, combo, and sometimes control in other TCGs.
Any other similar deck to Lopunny deck that might survive rotation?
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>>58829280
Dragapult is perfect for you!

Otherwise Eevee box, Grimmsnarl and Arboliva ghost are both all about combos and controlling the field. Out of those 3 Arboliva ghost is the most fun and has the most meme potential.
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I keep seeing lists using the Pidgeotto with a retreat cost of 1 instead of the one with free retreat. Why? The free retreat is optimal right?
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>>58829356
The free one for comparison
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>>58829356
>>58829357
90hp makes spread decks have to work a bit harder to ko.
80 vs 90hp thresholds that I can think of off the top of my head
>vitality band solrock
>hawlucha+turo dragapult spread
>2 energy scream tail
>2 turns of double froslass onto pidgeot for tm devo
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>>58829356
Free retreat one's definitely optimal
They either don't care about or are using it to have the matching 151 FAs kek
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>>58829292
If anything I think olives are a real deck, or at the very least skirting right below what a real deck would be. One or two cards and it'd be in a great position probably but both duck and shaymin kind of wall the deck. Cologne reprint soon.
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New cards
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>>58829371
Never understood the fascination with this art, looks subpar honestly. Like something some random dude would draw in ms paint.
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>>58830266
Quick search at home
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>>58830266
What a bunch of dogshit packet filler lol
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>>58830266
I read smooth coat as smooth cooch..
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>>58830266
Thought floette was good until I saw it was 3 energy but now it's awful
Dragalge seems bad even if it's 2 energy, if 3 energy it's DoA, you can't even ko a meowth without extra modifiers. If roxanne is the only new poison synergy it's a meme. Shame because it has 2 great energy types to abuse
Cinccino is just another meme card
Crobat's good but no deck using pecharunt wants it, the only draw dark has is zoroark and it doesn't need help like this with searching it's deck
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>>58830353
I see part of the appeal with the flat saturated colors, Pidgey and Pidgeotto are passable, but that kind of style clashes too much with the card design, the result really looks like a custom card made by some child
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>>58830353
They normally do quite nice art, that pidgey line just looks so empty tho compare to their other works
https://www.artofpkm.com/illustrators/37
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>>58830266
These minus the crobat look... kind of unplayable, and the crobat isn't much better. This set actually might be worse than PF
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>>58830266
cinccino ex's attack seems okay. with ignition energy and support like emboar you can get a decent amount of energy attached in a turn. it still requires some.set up but I wouldn't be surprised if it starts popping up after rotation
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>>58830573
Problem is why are you doing that over just using other good fire attackers
It also dies as collateral to all the rockets watchtower spam. Which will be everywhere now meowth is a thing
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Why did they print Erika's pokemon this shit looks even less complete than the other ones
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So Perfect Order and Ninja Spinner will both be tiny sets, and we know the highlight cards since those are the ones that set SIRs.

>Mega Gren is probably a worse Pult, missing all the things that made Break good
>Mega Floette is turbo dogshit
>Mega Dragalge is yet another poison memer, literally cannot do damage outside of the poison, these kinds of cards are always bulk
>gambler Cincinno is a meme
the supporters are all a bunch of nothing

If Mega Clefable is bad, which is likely, then half of the year will be sets that do absolutely nothing to the meta at all. Barbaracle is literally the best card of the year, not counting Pokepad since that came out last year in Japan.
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>>58831492
Greninja seems good, just in other decks instead of in its own as an attacker. Probably will see the most use in the Greninja deck we have now. Personally I'm going to be playing Vanilluxe and ghosts to try and OTK with piling snow while slowing the game down with Budew but apart from that nothing looks that fun to me.
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>>58830266
Mega Floette is good only if they print a psychic nuke you can follow up with and there isn't one yet
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>>58831675
This >>58831407 exists.
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>>58831685
acceleration is fine, psychic box doesn't have a way to ko opposing megas in one hit
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>>58831689
Mega gardy
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>>58831430
Collectors love trainers pokemon. That's why we're going to get trainerslop mons every so often now despite them being worthless gameplay wise
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Hey all of my charizard deck arrived today. I want to go to my first local. I've never been to one before can you guys help me? What do I need before I go? Do I need to sign up for something somewhere? Thanks.
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>>58831492
Mega greninja will be a good harasser when you combine it with other nuisance cards
>trap something with yveltal
>retreat to greninja and water shuriken
>surfing beach into another greninja and water shuriken
>pecharunt yveltal back to active
>munkidori for an extra 20 damage and heal yveltal
>fez-ex for draw power
Of course this is a bit optimistic with using stage 2s, no counter catcher, and needing a source of energy recovery.
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>>58831915
I don't know why they don't just appeal to both by making them cohesive and playable. You could even get some thematic trainers that actually play into the gimmick the decks use. It's not as if set space is contested when the majority of most sets are pack filler by design
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>>58831430
Can't make the blind box cards too powerful or else the Japs would complain about the 1% chance to get the correct deck.
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>>58831996
They just like bundling the trainer mons into 1 half-assed unsupported archetype. If the trainermons were just regular mons good by themselves like clefairy, zoroark, crobat, ho-oh then trainermons would be fine. Its when they make them hyper-reliant on the rest like erika doing X per erika pokemon, what's the point. If it was X per ANY pokemon or even grass pokemon that'd be fine
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>>58831989
The munki/dark package is probably too much to include in a greninja deck, unless there's some new water acceleration they've yet to reveal. Still you can use water ogrepon and retreat lock all the same, while being able to use it with the stadium too
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>>58831944
yeh get your pokemon trainer ID and go to the counter to register, you need to provide your name (or a name), DoB and pokeID.
Also get sleeves, a mat, coin/dice, damage counter and markers. Some stores or other players may have spares but may be dirty lol
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>>58830573
Metang since its colorless for attack but then again you have Melmetal ex which is better… but then again it’s rotating with G block. If you are thinking of playing Melmetal just be prepare to brick since you will be drawing mostly energies
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>>58832077
>your pokemon trainer ID
Is that what I use to log into TCG Live?
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>>58832122
Big Dick unga bunga swing for OHKO Melmeltal vs the Incel chud please don’t iono me alACKzam
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>>58832136
no your trainer id is string of numbers. you should see it on your profile after you have logged into the trainer club site
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>>58832305
Thanks I found it.
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>>58832122
At that point use heatran.. sure you don't keep the energy but if you're just stacking energy with metangs it's usually better
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>>58832212
Now bring it to locals :^)
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>>58832345
I did once but I got bricked up with 5 energies in hand and itchy pollen, but that was with an old list maybe I should again.
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>>58832338
Heatran has a better partner with Steven’s Metagross ex.
1.Attach the psychic discard the metal.
2. Attach luxurious cape/brave bangle/heavy baton/handheld fan
3.Use energy recycler/superrod when run out of energy
4.Rinse and repeat
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>>58832478
Metagross is a bigger target than a metang is. You can keep the board fully 1 prize until you wanna drop a mawile or skarmory to attack with
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>>58832535
>>58832478
Both of your asses are wrong heatran sucks ass just tried with two decks one with metagross and one with metang bith suck ass. Melmetal is still the better attacker compared to heatran.
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>>58830266
Cincinno EX is basically Whimsicott GX and I loved playing that shit back in the day.
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>>58833142
Just wait until rotation and you'll see....
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I have given up on life and you will too.
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>>58833315
Going into the next format wanting to play Lucario must feel so depressing
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>>58833327
The only thing I can think of doing to make the deck better is to add 1-2 Munkidori somehow.
But doing so makes it so you can brick.
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>>58833327
Psychic weak decks have been oppressed for 6 years now
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>>58833428
I sympathize as a grass enjoyer but you also have 3 distinctly different playable decks right now, more if you count ursaluna, bulls, or conkledurr.
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>>58833428
Don't worry anon, someone will make it 9 years with Mega Garde ex.
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I have theorycrafted a REALLY degenerate Psychic Deck but the pokemon that I need doesn't exist yet.
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I am missing something here but it feels like a step down.
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I feel fucking gross.



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