A manga series that adapts the mainline Pokémon games.this general thread is also manga adaptations>Current chapter, Scarlet and Violethttps://mangadex.org/title/fb74e93d-e947-4774-83e7-d972b85d3d11/pokemon-special-scarlet-violetAlso, who's the:Best MCBest girlBest shipBest teamBest side character shipsBest villain teamBest arcPrevious thread: >>58787288
>>58810956what are they looking at
>>58810956Pokemon adventures really needs an anthology spinoff series. It would bring new life to the series and we can have new adventures with old protagonists
>>58810956Why are the new chapters coming out so slowly? This should be a weekly thing.
>>58810956Huh, did the original illustration really not have the Pokemon in it? They add a lot to it, love that Charizard, Venusaur, and Gatr are surveying.
>>58811366>anthology spinoff seriesWould that even work? what story will it even tell?
>>58811366I feel like a format like this is just asking for blatant favortism, you'd only get spin-offs of the first 3 generations while all the other Dexholders eat rocks
>>58812795I'm pretty sure there's good stories to be told with Diamond and Pearl, Black and White/2, X and Y, and others
>>58811366I’m afraid it would devolve into shipping wars.
>>58810956Rare yellow sighting.
>>58812820Of course there would be, but because they aren't as popular as the OG generations it's unlikely their stories would be revisited.
>>58806747Thanks for the answer. I get your point, though I wasn’t arguing that Mudkip has no narrative use. I said that the author prioritized a rigid meta-structure over organic character fit. Ruby has an alright arc of learning not judge judge by appearances but that arc does not require Mudkip specifically IMO. You could run this exact same arc with:>Torchic learning discipline>Treecko being too wild or unrefinedMudkip isn’t uniquely necessary for this theme. It’s just... convenientRuby also openly despises Feebas for being ugly and I feel like he doesn't meaningfully grow to love Feebas as Feebas. The story kinda just rewards him with Milotic, one of the most beautiful Pokemon in existence. It just leaves a sort of weird impression on me that Ruby doesn't lean>ugly things have valuebut>endure ugly things and they'll eventually stop being uglyWhich undermines the Mudkip lesson retroactively. I feel the author should have written more chapters of Ruby learning to appreciate Feebas without Milotic then eventually evolve it. Instead, the story cashes in a beauty jackpotOn a separate note, I noticed the Adventures author is not very good at team building (I'll go into details with that on another post). Ruby has two Water types. But Swampert isn't even his ace, contest star or his aesthetic core... So what is it really doing long-term? Mudkip works fine and does its job but I feel like Torchic/Blaziken would have achieved the same thematic arc while also aligning with contests, aesthetics, long-term team balance and Ruby’s "hidden monster" payoff.
As a team builder, the Adventures author is alright as a symbol-first writer who tolerates mechanical mess and his teams often work despite their composition. As a battle shounen, he doesn't assign clear combat roles or build teams around coverage to minimize redundancy. Stuff like>Bulbasaur = Red's grounded reliability>Cyndaquil = Gold's hot-bloodedness>Milotic = beauty earned through painIs OK once or twice IMO. The problem is he does this every arc often at the expense of team cohesion and rarely cleans up the mechanical mess afterward. Symbolism is doing all the workRed has a team of: Venusaur, Pikachu, Poliwrath, Gyarados, Snorlax and Aerodactyl. Two Water-types, one who contributes nothing. It's not iconic, not especially strong, not thematically rich. It’s there because Poliwhirl is Tajiri's favorite and by the time RGBY was written, Pikachu wasn’t fully locked as the mascot yet. Venusaur is also a mismatch because Red at the beginning was reckless, hot-blooded and instinctive. Venusaur fits a tactician or a strategist, not the kid who runs headfirst into Team Rocket. He's pretty much a stock shounen hero, and Charizard fits his profile more. People scream "overrated", but Charizard is>aggressive>emotional>visually dominant>a perfect shounen aceGiving Charizard to Blue is like Agumon to Yamato and Gabumon to Taichi. It just doesn't suit well with Blue's character either
Blue's team looks strong... on paper. But once you think about intent, the whole thing collapses into the same problem most other Adventures team has: cool-looking Pokemon with no coherent philosophyCharizard does a lot of heavylifting then he has awful Pokemon like Golduck that's aggressively mediocre, Porygon2 a stall/utility Pokemon in a story that doesn't support stall/utility, Machamp that clashes with Blue's personality and Rhyperior who has no syngery with his team. Blue doesn't need that kind of liability. A composed rival should not be fielding a walking "hit me with special attacks" sign. Personally, if I were to rebuild Blue's team, I'd have it be>BlastoiseReliable, bulky and consistent. Doesn’t need hype or spectacle, it just wins over time. That fits a calm, long-game thinker far better than Charizard ever did for Blue>ScizorThe most irritating one cause Adventures gave it a Docile nature, Swarm for ability and worst of all no Bullet Punch, Scizor's bread and butter. Its movesets are Slash, Metal Claw, False Swipe and SteeI Wing. I'd swap it for Adamant, Technician then Bullet Punch, Swords Dance, U-turn and Close Combat. If Adventures is going to pretend it respects mechanics, it doesn't get to half ass them>AlakazamBlue's intellect, special offense and a clean contrast to Red's Machamp (I'd get to that)>ArcanineCompetitive usage aside, Arcanine has always been more reliable than Charizard as a Fire-type. It doesn't need gimmicks to function>AerodactylThe speedster. Pressure to force opponents to spend more energy. It comes in, does its job, leaves>UmbreonDefensive anchor. Good for status problems, good for stalling, good for endurance. Direct thematic mirror to Red's Espeon. Also, Gary had one in the anime and his game counterpart used an Eevee at least in Pokemon Yellow
Red's team on the other hand doesn't feel like a shounen protagonist's team. It feels like a museum exhibit of early Pokemon marketing mistakes like him having Poliwrath. If I changed Red's team, I would have it look like>CharizardAlready explained. Giving Charizard to Blue for a type triangle is game logic overriding narrative logic IMO. It's the Greymon of Pokemon. It's also the hardest and most stubborn one to raise>PikachuMandatory. It's the mascot, so of course, the first protagonist is going to use it on his team. Just like in HGSS, Pikachu is the fragile speedster who hits fast and hard but goes out first>EspeonThematic contrast to Blue's Umbreon. It reflects Red’s growth from impulsive to disciplined without turning him into a chess grandmaster>SnorlaxSame as Pikachu, too iconic to not add into Red's team. Great offensive tank and a great source of comic relief. Snorlax works cause Red fights hard, then crashes. It's basically Red if he were a Pokemon>LaprasInspired from his HGSS game team again. Water/Ice is elite coverage and it fits Red's protector side in a way Poliwrath never could>MachampDirect counterpart to Blue's Alakazam and classic brain vs brawn narrative. They are both the last stage of a three-part evolutionary line in Kanto, they reach their final stage by trading, level up at a medium slow rate, and they both have a 75% male gender ratio. Machamp excels at the physical attack while Alakazam excels at special attack stat. Their evolutionary lines are also next to each other in the National PokédexSo now Red has>Fire/Flying>Electric>Psychic>Normal>Water/Ice>FightingAnd Blue has>Water>Bug/Steel>Psychic>Fire>Rock/Flying>DarkNo overlap bloat. No dead slots. Every Pokémon does something distinct
>>58813579>>58813626NTA but these are cool. I don't nescessary agree that the dexholders teams MUST adhere to your criterea, I actually enjoy the soulful janky-ness of Adventures team comps, (most of the time) but I'd be interested to see what changes you'd make to other dexholders teams
Redpill me on X I don't get the hype around him
>>58813672He’s a like a new red.
>>58813664I like how the author builds Pokemon as metaphors and uses them as symbols of insecurity, trauma, pride, repression. It just bothers me in an autistic way cause there's no real balance lolWorst offender is probably the Johto trio. Gold's team... just sucks. And not in a "haha he's goofy" way. If this were a competitive ladder, he'd be hard-stuck in Great Ball tier and blaming RNGHis team is Typhlosion who hard carries it and without him, Gold's team collapses. Politoed is fine but underutilized and has no rain core synergy with his team. Ambipom is mid, frail and too gimmicky. Sudowoodo is a monotype to one of the worst types. Togekiss is a good Pokemon that's unsupported. Pichu is just a mascot and I refuse to believe Sunflora was ever meant to battle. Narrative underdogs still need payoff but Pichu never evolves and Sunflora just sucksIf I had to give Gold a proper team >TyphlosionStarter and ace, speed + special offense. Still the star, but no longer a slave carrying six toddlers on its back>AmpharosElectric coverage, bulky enough to stick around and covers Flying and Water threats cleanly. This alone fixes a huge hole in Gold's original roster>Red GyaradosPhysical sweeper with Intimidate to scare enemies and Dragon Dance/Waterfall/Crunch/Earthquake for movesets. No, I don't care if Silver has it. He doesn't need 3 Water-types and Feraligatr does the exact same job as Gyarados. Gold seriously needs a muscle on his team>HeracrossSwords Dance + Megahorn. It got a great physical movepool and despite the Flying-type weakness, is actually a usable sweeper. Guts so it can it can hit like a truck if it gets inflicted by a status condition>DonphanGood tank and Ground typing is absurdly valuable. Also checks out Electric and Rock>ExeggutorGrass/Psychic gives coverage Sunflora could only dream of. Can be used for leep support, special pressure, and utility. Feels Johto without being embarrassing
Silver's team is surprisingly even worse than Gold's and that's impressive in the same way it’s impressive to trip over a bar that was already on the floor. Silver's game counterpart actually has a coherent, threatening team identity, but the manga kind of throws that out so he can look more "edgy"Silver's biggest problem is that he has 3 Water-types: Feraligatr, Gyarados and Kingdra. It only takes one Thunderbolt to take down his entire team and ruin his day. You can do that with just a Pikachu at the right level. Add Weavile + Honchkrow and now you’ve stacked shared weaknesses, overlapping roles and no grounding for Electric spam. Paul is of a similar archetype to Silver but Paul worked cause his Pokemon counterbalanced each other. His "edgy" mons had defined roles while Silver's just hoarding cool-looking predators. So to fix Silver's team, I'd give him>FeraligatrMandatory. Stolen starter, physical attacker, emotional core.>WeavileHonestly, it's fine. It does its job as a speed demon and a revenge killer. Glass cannon fits Silver’s early ruthlessness and it keeps the Dark/Ice identity without bloating the team>MagnezonePatches Electric weakness. Steel typing gives real defensive backbone and it fits the "Exchanger" gimmick via evolution by trade. This alone turns Silver from fragile to dangerous>MagmortarWallbreaker and covers Steel and Grass. Aggressive, high-output, no-nonsense. Feels like something Silver would use to end fights, not posture>CrobatPoison/Flying coverage. Brave Bird, U-turn, Roost and Taunt makes it a fast disruptor and plays into the "harass and dismantle" role Silver should have. Also helps Silver prevent enemies from setting him up or healing>SteelixPhysical wall from hell. Hazard setter Roar + Toxic = control, not brute force. Thematically fits Johto and Silver's "cold, immovable" mindset
>>58814683>>58814754Do blue (F), Crystal and Yellow. I read that Yellow on the surface is schizophrenic, but actually a somewhat decent competitive team.
>>58813672>>58813957I like the explanation that being a shut-in made X perceptive to surroundings and Pokemon's emotions. It's kind of funny, but also a bit tragic for to develop trust issues early in life. XY manga has a lot of tension, and he's usually the first one to pick up on danger or traps.Also his team using 5 Megas is cool. It would sad if there's never a ZA Special...
>>58814683swinub is a top tier threat in this verse who gives a fuck
>volume 65 (?) wont release until 2026 of Junefuck the editor
>>58815294Why won't the editors just cave already?
>>58814916>Yellow>Competitive teamIsn't her whole shtick being a pacifist?
>>58815298They refuse to publish the Ruby/Sapphire sex scene. But Kusaka also refuses to let it go.
>>58814916Crystal's team is arguably the worst of the Johto trio, and that's saying something because Gold and Silver already lowered the bar. She has a Smoochum at level 48 and Cubone at level 73... Unevolved Pokemon can only work if they have Eviolite (not a thing here), they have busted abilities or moves (they don't) or there's a payoff (there isn't) Instead, Crys is sabotaging herself by choosing to be weaker for no narrative gain. If Silver's sin is redundancy and Gold's is dependency, Crystal's sin is refusing to grow. Arcanine carries her team just like how Typhlosion carried Gold and Meganium is a support starter trapped on a team with nothing worth supporting. No screens, no synergy, no defensive core. Meganium isn't bad, it's just abandoned. Parasect gets cooked by Fire and eaten by Flying, Hitmonchan is outclassed by every other Fighting type and Xatu is mid. For a somewhat decent team, I'd give her>MeganiumSupport unit. Screens, Leech Seed, Aromatherapy. Anchor of the team, not a liability>ArcanineStill the enforcer. Physical pressure (Extreme Speed, Wild Charge), refuses to die (Morning Sun), Intimidate and the "closer" (Flare Blitz)>TogekissInstead of Gold, Crystal receives it after he tends to the Togepi egg in order to draw out its potential. Secondary support + para-flinch menace. Ground immunity and keeps dragons in check>QuagsirePhysical tank, especially with theUnawareability (which ignores the opponent's stat changes), has only one weakness and chances are Crys is less likely to stumble upon a Grass user>SnorlaxAdds a significant bulk and offensive power to Crystal's team, benefiting from Meganium's ability to create switching opportunities with Leech Seed. Has only one weakness while also being completely immune to Ghost types>HitmonleeGoes well with her unique style of kicking Poke Balls with her feet after breaking her arms. Primarily serves as afast physical cleaner, aiming to KO weakened opponents late in a battle
>>58815822I know it’s bullshit, but I believe it.
>>58816062To be fair with Crystal, she doesn’t battle she’s a researcher.
>>58817327If I were to redesign Crystal's team I'd fill it with utility mons designed to capture mons as efficiently as possible. Parasect is practically mandatory for it's access to Spore.
>>58817548Definitely, but I also understand why they went with the team they gave her since there was always going to be a big climatic battle
>>58815687yes
>>58815294Oh god damn it. Just release already.
>>58816518The editor will come around eventually. Either that or Pokespe fucking dies.
>>58818698At this point I doubt it.
>>58814586Who’s this cutie?
>>58819837The hero of BW2
We've seen what happens when a character who embodies what the average competitivefag thinks is madeIt's Emerald
is the editor of a certain magazine that pokemon adventures currently runs on?
>>58819918I don't know what you're tyring to say anon.
>>58819906His team was good for Gen 3
Why is there so little porn of this series?
>>58821412Most of it never escapes small niche corners of the Japanese doujin market/internet, let alone get translated.
>>58821451Pokemon adventures being niche seems wrong given how big Pokemon is as a series.
>>58821499There a lot of weird oddities like that, like did you know that despite being around since the very beginning Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy have like less than a thousand entries on gelbooru each?
>>58818698Pokespe wont die. Most likely Nintendo will weigh in eventually
>>58821412Pokespe is too pure to be corrupted
>>58821451Source?
>>58823742"Double-S" by Akusei-Shinseibutsu (Nori)https://hitomi.la/doujinshi/double-s-english-73942-477925.html
>>58823790>2011Fuck me, there's nothing recent is there?
We need a Pokemon game where the MC/FMC are streamers.
>>58823869Why else do you think everyone wants volume 65 to be released so badly?
>>58824425Because it’s been like years since ORAS.
>>58824106Would be such a curse game with all the zoomer lingo.
Agencypost
>>58821499I can say that for so much of the franchise. Could be the echo chamber, but it feels like everything aside from the main series games is niche.
>>58826574Should have been an official couple like Ruby and Sapphire.
>>58823790Good shit.
>>58826856We are in agreement
>>58811366It would be nothing more than the first 3 gens. They’re the only ones that are connected unlike the others.
>>58828423Cute, but White’s body language feels off
Yellow and Red deserve to be together
>>58827757Cute couple.
>>58829593Never going to happen.
>>58829713
>>58830761It will, we have to believe
>>58810956Would have been better if Crystal had her old clothes back. Same with Gold.
>>58810956It’s depressing to know that this is the last official cameo of yellow
