Is the ZA speed nerf the best thing that has happened to competitive Pokemon? So many underutilized mons now have a chance to shine because they're no longer held back by this Hitlerian stat.
>>58832111ZA made speed even more OP by tying it to thr realtime combat cooldowns instead of cooldowns being based on type.
>>58832111Nope that’s still the physical/special split
>>58832111Too bad the combat is ass
>>58832111The most aids 'mechanic' is still accuracy
>>58832118you don’t play the game>>58832124you’re bad at the game>>58832125you don’t play the game
>>58832162ZA does away with that too lmao
>>58832167And you’re the worst at the game.
>>58832111What’s the point of making a thread, asking for people’s opinions, and then having a hissyfit when people disagree with you?
>>58832187“Disagreeing” isn’t the same as “literally being wrong”
It reduces the number of ev spreads greatly.Now everyone dumps them in bulk and attack/spatk, the 2nd order effect is there's few mons that can actually 1hko anything so the meta centers around mons who can. Having speed tied to movement and cooldown would be preferable.ZA is not a serious game and not worth analyzing too hard.
>>58832195A small price to pay to have more viable mons imo
>>58832190I disagree because you’re literally wrong
>>58832118Anyone who's played the game knows cooldowns barely matter except for select mons. And even then you don't have to invest much in speed because the fastest they can get is 3 seconds.
>>58832207I think there are fewer viable mons because there are straight up fewer roles for them to play. ZA is very shallow.
>>58832207>more viable monsAre there really? Online seems to be highly centralized around a handful of mons.
>>58832118The difference between 4 seconds and 4.1 seconds straight up does not matter. This isn't a fighting game.
>>58832207Are we playing the same game?Only non meta stuff I have seen are vanilluxe and people that still pretend eevees are good outside of glaceon.
>>58832207>more viable monsNo, we just now have a different set of viable ‘mons instead. The entire meta is almost entirely centered around garchomp and garchomp alone, and using electric types of any kind is an outright death sentence
>>58832118Animation time>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spe (any value)
>>58832111The Z-A battle system is just bad implementation of your typical MMORPG/MOBA battle system.It's... serviceable but uninspired. It's lmost boring how "real time battles" in Pokemon are just that.Is it better? Maybe, technically. But I prefer the old system.
>>58832125This
>>58832444Good thing the old system isn't going anywhere.
>>58832484We already know it's gonna go to Champions, WW has Arceus' system and the next Legends has real time like Z-A but with troops ala Pikmin. Standard turns are gone except in your official showdown nobody will actually play
>>58832532>it has Arceus' systemNo, it doesn't.No, I don't care what some leaker wh has been wrong before has to say.
>>58832569>he was proven wrong! Where? Hmm... who knows! He's just wrong okay?!The sweet sweet cope strategy, huh? Lovely.
>>58832401It's funny that this is pretty true but also you used to need electric coverage (or freeze dry) for gyara
>>58832401My Baxcalibur eats Garchomp for breakfast. Glaceon is also a thing. And earthquake isn't as dangerous when you learn to keep distances, plus the bigger the range the bigger your hitbox, those alpha Garchomp are massive targets.Learn to play the game
>>58832401>saying this when Ampharos is one of the best screens setters in the gameI recommend climbibg out of V rank
>>58832111Speed still matters, it’s just now some Pokémon are arbitrarily faster than the others based purely on vibes
>>58832401Garchomp isn’t even top 5 best mons in ranked right now
>>58832167>Massreplying projecting faggot
Don't worry, Game Freak made sure certain Pokemon would have not seen any from this.
>>58832111Speed was probably too important and made a lot of Pokemon unviable if they were in that awkward speed tier that is too slow but also too fast for TR strats. I still prefer Speed being king because it at least makes EV spreads more interesting than just 252 HP 252 Attack/SpAttack Adamant/Modest nature on every single pokemon.
>>58833378>. I still prefer Speed being king because it at least makes EV spreads more interesting than just 252 HP 252 Attack/SpAttack Adamant/Modest nature on every single pokemon.How? You're either maximizing speed or HP, ZA is just a sidegrade at best in terms of stat spread freedom.My biggest disappointment with ZA's system is that mixed attacking is even less viable now because everything is running more bulk.
>>58832125Yep
>>58832111i can tell from your post that youre a singles player. outside of the fanfic meta i can think of very few otherwise good mons held back by speed. at most it just requires some positioning, but then youre likely rewarded with an attacker thats stronger or bulkier than usual
