Do other regions have a "basic team" like sinnoh?
closest anything else gets is the johto typhlosion/red gyarados/ampharos core, but for the other regions it's usually anons reaching for the sake of the meme
>>58835544Yes. Pokèmon fans tend to flock towards the same mons.
Johto and Kalos do, ironically for opposite reasonsthe former has almost no options so people just go for the same few and the latter has so many options that people don't bother sifting through them and just take the giftmons + the same few standouts
>>58835544johto does. starter, eevee, amphy, crobat, gyarados, heracross
>>58835544Just Johto
>>58835544no, sinnoh is the only one that’s poorly designed
>>58835544no, Sinnoh is the only one with such a fantastic core.
>>58835567>HeracrossWho the fuck is dealing with Headbutt bullshit for long enough to actually get a Heracross
>>58835544everything but the bird was made for sex
>>58835630literally everybody
>>58835637I doubt that
>>58835642then you’re underage, everybody did it for hgss
HGSS comes close with Ampharos being an easy lock, such is the draw of an early electric type, but otherwise no. Sinnoh has the worst Pokemon distribution in the series so these are some of the only Gen 4 Pokemon available to the player in early game.
I would say most games follow the rhetoric of, starter, early game rat/bird/bug, pika clone, generic bulk water thing and that regions gimmick mon, yeah
>>58835647I didn't
>>58835544The only ones here I consistently use in Platinum playthroughs are garchomp and starraptor and the only reason I consistently use starraptor is for easy access to fly otherwise I'd use Vespiquen or Yanmega instead. Id even use Honchcrow if they didnt stupidly make it diamond exclusive but its usually my flyer in HGSS
Thank god you can’t do this for hoenn
>>58835630I got a Heracross when I was like 8. You underestimate how many people who are willing to just search it up lol. It's overused as fuck in Johto
>>58835738I do it for Hoenn>Swampert>Gardevoir>Swellow>Ludicolo>Shiftry (Emerald trade)>LinooneThere, you are set.
>>58835783>tradekwab
Sinnoh, mostly speaking in terms of DP, has two fundamental core reasons why every team ends up the exact same:>Barren options>The options you do get are genuinely really fucking good (bar Luxray, who mostly gets by on how cool it is)The Sinnoh starters, Garchomp, Lucario and Staraptor are INCREDIBLY good and flexible Pokemon that all hit like a truck and have insane coverage options. They make almost every other Pokemon you can get look even worse in comparison. Why use crap like Purugly, Skuntank, Kricketune, Lumineon or Golduck when Sinnoh's "mascots" make such a strong, well-rounded core by themselves? Johto's barren options in contrast are mostly due to hiding all the good mons through work or effort (Heracross, Crobat, post-game trade evolutions, Houndoom, etc.) which leads to one of the actually useful Pokemon like Ampharos becoming ubiquitous just to HAVE an option in the first place. Meanwhile modern games suffer choice paralysis due to having too many options, many of which overlap each other, and having the exact same favorites in every game like Eevee, Gardevoir and LucarioKanto is honestly the only game where team building is actually any fun because they give you most of the fun options by midgame. Hoenn does too, but has too many single stage shitmons I couldn't give a fuck about and kneecaps itself by having Ralts be a Route 102 encounter. It's really the start of the modern problem of the franchise giving you a Pokemon that's way too flexible and popular immediately
>>58835783This isn't a basic team though. It has to be a team every player uses like in Johto, sinnoh, and Kalos.
>>58835822desu Ralts and Kirlia are kinda shit, I always found them to be pretty middling overall since it takes a while to get Gardevoir if you aren’t grinding
>>58835835You'll have a Gardevoir before Flannery if you don't catch like 5 shitmons before Wattson. The investment isn't that big of a deal since Shock Wave/Thunderbolt will effectively eradicate the entire endgame better than Sceptile's sorry ass can. If people can put up with a Magikarp to get a Gyarados, Ralts is even less investment than that despite its "useful" stage being 10 levels higher
>>58835544I've seen alot of BW2 teams having the starter/lucario/arcanine/flygon
Good thing paldea is free from this heh!
>>58835630>>58835637>>58835642I'm a johto fanboy and I didnt try heracross until 2 years ago and dropped him
Everything team in KANTOOOO is basic because KANTOOOO is a shithole
>>58835822>They make almost every other Pokemon you can get look even worse in comparison.Sinnoh showed their hand too early by the time you get to maylene you'll already have the perfect team minus Lucario, Infernape the starter and best fire type by default, staraptor sinnoh's only bird that's too strong for its own good, luxray sinnoh's only electric type that isn't cross gen or saved for post game, roserade the only grass type in sinnoh worth using, floatzel the only water type in sinnoh, that's not piplup, that's worth using, and garchomp.
>>58835889Too early but also just, no other good alternatives. Way too many shitmons pad Sinnoh's dex and when there's only 151 options kids are gonna be picking the same handful that DON'T suck. Saving all the fun stuff for post-game conceptually shouldn't be bad but you'd think they were making Johto 2 with that kind of mentality
>>58835630>30% encounter ratenigga it's literally one of the easiest pokemon to find
>>58835889>the only water type in sinnoh, that's not piplup, that's worth using>disrespecting GODstrodon
No other game has this meme because DP Sinnoh has uniquely bad Pokemon selection, and Sinnoh fans are a loud group.
>>58835544Johto does but it's only 2 Pokemon, the starter and Ampharos.
Thankfully Gen 6 fixed this.
>>58835929You forgot the Red Gyarados.
>>58835933That's the HM slave.
>>58835933You can skip Red Gyarados in Gen II since it's unintentionally handicapped by a mediocre Special Attack stat. Even Feraligatr is a better choice. You also get actually GOOD Water mons in Johto like Quagsire, Vaporeon or Lapras pretty fucking easilyMeanwhile your Electric options are>Ampharos>Jolteon>Post-Game Pikachu unless you waste your Crystal exclusive Odd Egg for a Pichu>Electabuzz from said Odd Egg, who got buffed to be better than Raichu>Lanturn? Never used one
>>58835940I got my GS and Crystal availability sets mixed up, literally only options in Crystal are Jolteon, Raichu or Electabuzz while GS is Ampharos, Lanturn and Jolteon
>>58835940You can get stones early in GS?
>>58835940> Lanturn? Never used oneLanturn is actually pretty good, actually gets decent moves for both STABs, takes his well, obtained at olivine harbor just outside the place you get the good Rod at 20% chance. chinchou even evolves fairly soon after you get it.Thing is you’d have to know to get it and as far as I know no one uses it before that point so you don’t het map data for it meaning a a new player mag not even know it existed or if they did wouldn’t know where to get to it is unless they happened to explore each house in olivine, speak to the fisher guy, then try the super rod at that spot. Not impossible or even difficult but it’s easy to miss. Which is probably why you haven’t used one. Though ironically that would also be another point in favor of water. Water is just a broken type
>>58835953they're gated by rng phone calls
>>58835959The RNG is pretty easy to manipulate but the phone calls never give stones in GS. That’s only in Crystal. in GS the only stones (except Sun) are at Tojoh falls (one moon stone), mt moon (1 moon stone a week), and Bill’s house (1 leaf, 1 water, 1 fire, 1 thunder )
This thread made me realize why I enjoy playing Kanto and Hoenn games the most. Actual good encounter spread does wonders for teambuilding
Every region definitely has a "most used pokemon team" or at least "most used pokemon" like other anons said , it just makes sense some pokemon are more easily obtainable and stronger than others
>>58835989There's a difference between a region having a most common picks list and like 90% of players running the same set of Pokemon because of bad design, which is what the thread is actually about.
>>58835967>>58835959So in GS it’s just kinda fucked
>>58835976I wish Hoenn was actually fun with its encounter spread but because the end game nosedives in quality, it's not really anywhere near as fun as Kanto's variety>In Kanto, the Safari Zone is full of unique mons exclusive to it in the entire region and hosts some of the strongest encounters in the game like Tauros, Chansey, Kangaskhan, Exeggcute and Rhyhorn>in Hoenn, the Safari Zone is full of unique mons exclusive to it in the entire region, but it's all a bunch of Kanto and Johto shitmons that you wouldn't use on a casual playthrough except Heracross and Rhyhorn (again)To make the comparison worse, Kanto's Safari Zone has Dratini while Bagon isn't available until you beat fucking Wallace/Juan
>>58835567I have never used Ampharos and Heracross in johto nor the eevee
>>58835818DOTS is a valued member of the team shut your face
>>58835992you are right
>>58836049 (me)but it depends on the version like dp and platinum
>>58836010To be fair GameFreak probably already realized Safari Zones are not popular with the playerbase at that point and made a conscious decision not to lock the strongest encounters behind that RNG fiestaPseudos being endgame exclusive is pretty standard for most Pokemon games, only Platinum went full retard with making its strongest non legendary encounter avaliable right after you’re just done fighting Bidoofs and Kricketunes
