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>>58836763Reminder that Paradox Pokemon are not "forms", and thus not buffs or improvements in anyway to the Pokemon they draw from.
>>58836763>let's draw an incomplete steel white barneyalola mons were a mistake
>>58836763The ugly unova shitmon got nothing
>>58836773They are basically special evolutions you can't get by evolving them yourself, like blood moon Ursaluna (who is also a cryptid just like the paradox). It's not fundamentally different from how having a Hisuian Goodra means replacing the normal Goodra on your team.
>Legends Galar is nextYOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BABY
>>58836795>They are basically special evolutions you can't get by evolving them yourselfNo they're not. They are lore connected, and that's it. They have absolutely 0 mechanical impact on the Pokemon they're related to.You can use both Roaring Moon and Salamence on a team without violating Species Clause. You cannot do the same with Goodra and Hisuian Goodra. You can breed Ursaluna Bloodmoon and Ursaluna. You cannot do the same with Paradox Pokemon.
>>58836763>garchomp gets two forms>both are worse than M Salamence and roaring moonWhat did they mean by this
>>58836763I love every single Pokemon in this image. Psuedo's and all that follow, are the best
>>58836815>redditspacing>the only difference he can come up with to separate it from bloodmoon is that he can fuckyawn
>>58836847>4chan spacing>Fails to even read the full commentThey can fuck, and they violate species clause. Meanwhile, you have 0 mechanical elements that link Paradox mons to being forms.Me 2, You 0
>>58836856>more redditspacingGo back.
>>58836859>more 4chan buzzwordsStay
>>58836804I need this to happen but also with a Gigantamax Tyranitar so they can have a real kaiju battle while Shitaludon watches from the cuckchair
>>58836763Z moves don’t count
>>58836763>hydreiflop is the only pseudo to have never gotten any form of boost or gimmick in the past 15 yearsLol
>>58836773same thing as regional replacements then
>>58836882Regional forms can still breed and violate Species clause, but I do agree that Regional forms don't "buff" the base forms either.
>>58836890A Perserkerr won't violate a Meowth species clause but it's still a new species derivative of the original Meowth that replaces it
>>58836763>garchomp got twowhy is gamefreak doing flygon like this
>>58836890>violate Species clause,that just make them even worse than paradox mons then since they literally force you to replace the base form
>>58836865>G-max TTar and G-max hydreigonmake it happen
>>58836958I mean I don't disagree, in terms of giving buffs to the old forms -- Regional forms are more likely to outright replace the original because of that. I dont think theyre effective ways of revitalizing older Pokemon for that reason.Just a bit separate from the other point that was being made. The point of the Paradox differentiation, is everyone's artistically attached to trying to call them forms, as if Roaring Moon is somehow a buff for Salamence (sometimes people even stating as such) when theyre provably not.
>>58836972Gameplay and story segregation. Lore-wise all the paradox forms are something extra those lines got even if gameplay wise they are treated as completely unrelated things.Same thing that happens to the eon duo
>>58836984Lore is the only thing that connects them. But again, Roaring Moon is not a "buff" for Salamence, its an entirely new entity. Salamence did not "get" Roaring Moon.
>>58836999>Lore is the only thing that connects themYes dipshit that's exactly what I said
>>58837012First off, I said it first, illiterate-kun.Secondly, you're trying to tie the lore to something the Pokemon "got", which they did not, and I'm emphasizing the separation of those two ideas.
>>58836773They are funnily enough downgrades. They have lower BSTs and arguably worse typings.
>>58837082Roaring Moon is absolutely not a downgrade from base Salamence
>>58837016I'm literally telling you that's what I said, calling me illiterate when you couldn't read how I said it before you did is peak irony
>>58836815Didnt know Bloodmoon Ursaluna could breed
>>58837138And I'm literally telling you I said it prior to you saying it, meaning I'm aware, and that the reason I restated it was to emphasize a difference that you werent, illiterate-kun.
>>58836966>>58836865>>58836804Will we even have dynas/gigas in Legends Galar? It supposedly takes place 1000 years ago and the dynamax band seems to be a technologically advanced device like the tera orbs, and the gameplay is just pikmin against giant mons so if anything it looks like the gimmick will be exclusively employed by the enemies
>>58837082Are you retarded? They have a fixed BST that's why the pseudos have lower BST but that's not the norm, paradox are overall a massive upgrade. And despite having inferior BST Roaring Moon is not a fucking downgrade from regular Mence, it's Throns and Jugulis the one that suck in comparison
>>58837082The trade off for taking 10 off its BST is making it minmaxxed as fuck. BST doesn't mean as much as every point being used efficiently, which is part of why most of the SWSH and SV legendaries are busted compared to prior gens which had pokemon reaching 780
>>58837157There's no way theyre going back to galar and not giving you some excuse to use Dmax mons
>>58836825*pseudo
>>58837205*powerhouse pokemon
>>58837133Its just mega salamence but worse dude
>>58837262A worse M Mence still shits on base Mence. Lets not forget M Mence was considered more broken than M Ray and this was without an item slot
>>58836773Why should they be?
>>58837152Okay so you are genuinely illiterate and can't admit it good to know
>>58837262If Mega Salamence is a 10 and Salamence is a 7, Roaring Moon is an 8 AND it can still use items unlike Mega Salamence
>>58837190>Minmaxed as fuckTyranitar100/134/110/95/100/61Iron Thorns100/134/110/70/84/72Hydreigon92/105/90/125/90/98Iron Jugulis94/80/86/122/80/108Mega Salamence95/145/130/120/90/120Roaring Moon105/139/71/55/101/119The paradox Pokemon related to Psuedos are definitely worse including the stats.Yeah, Flutter Mane is obviously better than its counterpart, but the psuedos (which are the ones we’re talking about) are worse.>>58837133Roaring Moon is based on Mega Salamence and not regular Salamence.
