Kyurem will surpass Arceus
>>58836836>bw wasn’t an incomplete fushjob goys
>>58836836No Pokémon will ever surpass Arceus in lore. Unless Game Freak or the anime does something very specifically stupid.
>>58836846Arceus is merely a god of reality, a demiurge if you will. Kyurem is the god of dreams, who transcends space and time as the aeons do.
>>58836844>malding so much over kinova they forget how to spell
>>58836860Arceus at this point in Pokémon lore is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. Or at least nearly is. It's confirmed its Pokémon self just an "avatar" as Arceus is beyond space and time. Or something like that. I didn't play PLA.
>>58836902>Arceus at this point in Pokémon lore is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.There was a time where Arceus didnt exist so by definition it cant be any of these things. Its omnipotent within the confines of its domain(spacetime), but powerless outside of it.
>Sv, Za, the teralesk and even be itself hint at the original dragon being an imaginary character that never actually existed created by storytellers who didn’t understand zerkrom and reshiram figuratively being two sides of the same coins (the yin and the yang) while kyurem is just an unrelated alien invader much like eternatus>fakefans who don’t even care about unova and its theme are still deluding themselves by claiming the original dragon will ever be a real pokemonIt’s all so tiresome
>>58836931>>58836844this is the same shitposting iphone beaner btw
>>58836931>an imaginary character that never actually existed created by storytellersWow just like paradox pokemon and hyperspace lumiose
>>58836844Uh oh not a minor spelling mistake
>>58836922That's one reason why I said:>Or at least nearly is.And:>Or something like that.There's some stuff that kind goes against the idea as you correctly said. The thing about Arceus hatching from an Egg. Unless that was a metaphor, gets a retcon or applies only to Arceus's Pokémon self because it just wanted to do that for whatever reason. Similarly for the thing about Arceus supposedly having 1000 arms that it made everything with.
>>58836944Precisely. If the original dragon one day get made real, it will have no tie to kyurem the same way roaring moon has no tie to salamence
>>58836902>It's confirmed its Pokémon self just an "avatar"No it’s not.>b-but it said it was giving you a part of itself an-Yes, the Arceus in your party is the projection. The Arceus in the origin hall is still just its actual body, since you can just go back and see it again.
>>58836931>the teraleak [FANFIC]every time
>>58836846Really? I was under the impression that Ultra Necrozma was at least equal to Arceus or something...
>>58836860This is easily the best take ive seen on the original dragon and im mad that if we do get the original dragon, the designers cant make anything too close to it.
>>58836846>No Pokémon will ever surpass Arceus in loreMasuda (the one who created it and wrote its lore) has admitted multiple times, in interviews, to fans, and on Twitter, than Arceus’s mythos are greatly exaggerated and it isn’t actually a god. The SM internal docs point to Arceus being a fraud, too. We also know from Teraleak part 2 that Eternatus is canonically meant to be the strongest pokemon in the lore.
>>58837094>"Uuuugghghghhhhhhh our fans already beat us to our cool design......">"OOH I KNOW!!!!">"We should make it look stupid as FUCK!"I hate those motherFUCKERs so much.
>>58837094Right is what I wanted Ultra Necrozma to look like instead of the bland featureless blob we ended up with
>>58837217>tfw Necrozma, the Original Dragon, and Eternatus all turn out to be fragments of a single original creature
>>58836836It wont. The whole Origin Dragon is a paradox that could never be whole again, such is the concept of Taoism. The mere implication of a God Stone implies that Zekrom and Reshiram can merge together into one being that Kyurem them can absorb to become complete, which is impossible.
>>58837094nigger thats just Chronos from Dragalia Lost.
>>58837246In all fairness dragalia lost had some really cool dragon designs
>>58837261True but its still not a very interesting Kyurem design by all means, it lacks the electrical aspect of Zekrom desu
>>58837277>it lacks the electrical aspect of Zekrom desuIt represents plasma so it doesn't really need to portray electricity or fire in its design but I do think the illuminated parts should be a different color like pink or purple to distinguish it from both Zek and Resh. Id also make the black parts of its body a shade darker and more 'mechanical' to better portray Zekrom
Pokemon lore almost feels like a Sonic-tier clusterfuck at times
>>58837329>different religion has a different godIts not that complicated
>>58836860>>58837094holy KINO....
>>58837106I have found very consistently that western fans just really really like the idea of God Pokemon and refuse to accept the actual canon, and with Eternatus specifically it’s compounded by “man fuck Gen 8 dex cut reee”
>>58837106Strength doesnt mean shit, its true Eternatus is the strongest Pokemon and Eternatus literally bends reality, being the "legendary pokemon who uses energy number 3" of this franchise, but at the end of the day you cannot extinguish god's very existence without terminating existence as a whole.Which Eternatus could technically do so it doesnt really collide with the idea of him being the strongest.
