other than itself, ice type now resists:-flying (most bird species migrate to avoid cold climates)-grass (expansion of water now frozen chews through concrete, let alone plant matter, and heavily suppresses a plant's ability to transport water)-electric (ice is either an insulator, or very poor conductor)-water (it's the heat of the water which melts the ice, which is the fire type's property)There, type is fixed now.
This thread will go well.
>>58924092Too little child and animal porn for your tastes? Here's your (You), thanks for the bump, nigger
>>58924101>projecting
>>58924084You'd have to weaken it offensively to counter balance this brutal buff wave. I get that the ice type is competitively useless, unless the mon has a way of bypassing its innate shittiness with super speed or crazy utility, but this would make it the best.
>>58924149Rock, Steel and Fighting-type moves as well as Fire-type moves now break Frozen status for both the user and the targetSheer Cold fails against anything that resists IceFire gets its own Aurora Veil equivalent and OHKO move
>>58924245>taking shit like sheer cold into accountdo singleplayer goys really>
>>58924084I agree with OP on the grounds that ice currently only resists itself but has 4 weaknesses. Its such an odd type. Offensively powerful against 4 other types and ineffective against 4 types. But defensively weak against 4 types and only resistant against itself. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>58924084it should resist dragon ground and flying
>>58924262OHKO moves are bullshit, but if you're gonna have them, may as well pass them around
>look I fixed it by making it overpowered!12 year old tier balancing
>>58924321>steel and fairy get to resist everything, the latter even gets to be a good offensive type as well>ice is still weak to everything but like it's op now that it like resists a few things, 99% of the ice type should remain unused like it is now
>>58924325When even 1 or 2 type chart changes can completely change the game, yes, giving one type 4 new resistances is ridiculous. Ice is an offensive focused type so comparing its resistances to Steel is pointless, and Fairy being too strong isn't an excuse to overtune another type, it's only risking more problems.
>>58924325>steel and fairy get to resist everythingneither of those types get SE damage against 5 different types, perfect unresisted coverage with a single other move, a 1HKO move, weather that boost its defense, the most broken status condition in the game, and a 100% accurate spread 110 damage movealso resisting 4 types isn’t “resisting everything”
>>58924325ok and?
Ice should resist both dragon and fairy There i said it
>>58924084Just make it resist grass and water, no need to do all that. In return, make grass resist fairy, cementing it as a the defensively oriented type that it feels like it was always meant to be. Water and fairy deserve these moderate nerfs so no further changes are required.
>>58924367Or alternatively you change nothing and retarded campaignshitters like OP just learn how to play the game instead.
>>58924374Also i am transsexual, forgot to mention.
>>58924084It does desperately need some buffs, but not this much. 2/4 of these is fine.
>>58924401>It does desperately need some buffsno it doesn’t
>>58924407The only usable ice archetype is a fast offensive one, that's it. Said archetype is also heavily crowded. If it doesn't reach +100 speed and 120 offense, it will never get past PUBL
>>58924412>Lapras is fast and offensive>Articuno is fast and offensive>Mamoswine is fast and offensive>Glastrier is fast and offensivenah I think you might just be a retard who’s bad at the game
>>58924412>If it doesn't reach +100 speed and 120 offense, it will never get past PUBLDamn you better go tell Smogshit to unban Cloyster and Baxcalibur then
>>58924407It got a ton of buffs, so yeah it does need buffs
>>58924423>ZU>ZU>RUBL, but mamoswine is good design, thick fat makes it not take one shot and it has priority moves>ZUoopsie, turns out someone is a retard
>>58924427>fanficshit>fanficshit>fanficshit>fanficshitoopsie, turns out someone is a retard
>>58924425>shell smash skill link abuser and an unburnable physical attacker that gets free attack damage when hit by fireme when i'm being severely disingenuous
>>58924431>t. 12 year old GOD who beat E4 with his lvl 90 charizard and
>>58924423>fucking articuno>good
>>58924425unban cloyster from where? PU?
>>58924432>W-WAIT BUT THE POKEMON BECOMES GOOD WHEN YOU REMEMBER THERE ARE MECHANICS IN THE GAME OUTSIDE OF THE TYPE CHART!! THAT DOESN’T COUNT!!!It’s amazing how campaignshitters are so close to getting it, but they lack just enough self awareness that they still can’t get there.
>>58924444>heh, turns out thing is pretty good when you give it +3 on every stat, check mate, campaignshitterYeah, disingenuous, go back to gooning to drawings of children.
>>58924444>this type is objectively bad>YEAH BUT IT ISN'T OBJECTIVELY BAD WHEN YOU GIVE IT BATON PASS TIER OVERWHELMING FIREPOWER AND 150 DAMAGE MOVES THOUGH????
>>58924427>>58924439>>58924442
>>58924457>>this type is objectively bad>>YEAH BUT IT ISN'T OBJECTIVELY BAD WHEN YOU REMEMBER OTHER MECHANICS IN THE GAME EXIST AND THE GAME ISN'T JUST A VACUUM WITH JUST THE TYPE CHARTSounds like a valid argument to me.
>>58924463>this is her """response"""x'D
>>58924466For every 1 cloyster, there are 100 zero usage ice type shitmons that do not have access toshell smashskill linkicicle spearrock blastat the same time
>>58924469>For every 1 [good Pokemon], there are 100 zero usage pokemonShit we better buff Fairy type until Granbull and Wigglytuff are good then, right campaignshitter?
yep ice definitely needs a buff
This thread is so full of Latinx right now...
>>58924472a fairy type does not need skill link shell smash king's rock in order to be ou viable, it can be good even with shit stats like clefablean ice type has to be a oneshot machine else it is uselessthis is universally agreed uponI am done talking to retarded pedozoophile niggers such as yourself.
bros someone tell smogshit to fix this!!! Ice is a bad type so this can't be right!!
>>58924472but not only that, cloyster is NUBL, even that is not enough, kill yourself, moron
>>58924488>a fairy type does not need skill link shell smash king's rock in order to be ou viable,you're right it just needs 170 attack stat, 148 speed stat, and an ability that boosts attack upon switch in in order to be ou viable
>>58924431None of those mons are viable in VGC either except for maybe Articuno, which won a recent regional but now it's already gone back to the cuck box with the shift to a restricted format.
>>58924492>but not only that, cloyster is NUBL>>58924463
>>58924489>evasion>ohko>flinch spam>unburnable oneshot machine>fast oneshot machine>fast oneshot machine>evasionshe is right, sister
anyone with two braincells to rub together knows the king's rock ban was bullshit
>>58924501>B-B-B-BUT YOU REMEMBERED THERE ARE OTHER MECHANICS IN THE GAME!!you did the meme
>>58924504nta, none of which are exclusive to the ice type
>>58924504>fire type is op because scald has a burn chance
>>58924508Snow Cloak and non-weakened Sheer Cold are exclusive to Ice typesKing's Rock was only banned because of an Ice typeIron Bundle was banned because it has unresisted STAB coverage, which is exclusive to its typehope this helps
>>58924515evasion and ohkos are not exclusive to ice types, no
>>58924515king's rock was banned because a smogon mod got gaped hard and banned it out of rage
>>58924515>King's Rock was only banned because of an Ice typeSkill Link*
>>58924515All evasion abilities and OHKO moves are banned, this is not exclusive to Snow Cloak and Sheer Cold.King's Rock ban was due to Cloyster's Skill Link ability abusing it.Iron Bundle was banned due to its dragapult tier speed on top of its already amazing special attacking stats as well as the ability to tera out of bad matchups. If it were purely because of the typing you'd see Lapras in ubers.
>>58924515>>58924504>>58924489Reminder that this is OP ragebaiting for his worthless niggershit thread. No one, who is capable of reading, is this stupid. Stop biting.
>>58924483only because they can tera into types other than ice XDDD
>>58924463>>58924489
>>58924084>logicfagging the type chartYou guys need to stop.
>>58924611Lmao compfags btfo again
>>58924625
>>58924489normally you'd think this has to be bait, but there are sperglords genuinely delusional enough on this site to actually just unabashedly make posts like these and think that they're right
>>58924662Yawnfag is a Verlisify fan, and any time his ferret onahole doesn’t give him sexual satisfaction, he goes on here to rant about how Smogon for doing what is essentially turning off items and banning 75m from Smash Bros. for Pokemon.
>>58924084Make Dragon weak to Rock just becuse.
>>58924662>ICE SUCKS!!!>”ok then why can’t I use these ice type things in fanfic”>NOOOOOO YOU’RE BAITING ME
>>58924934>I*E SUCKS!!!This thread exists so people post this exact line and get thrown on an FBI watch list
>>58924779Except this comparison doesn't work at all. It's like if you turned off all items except hammers and final smashes, and then someone said, "Wtf, why are those still on?" and then a million people at once replied with, "Fucking tourist, those are the identity of the metagame. If you ban those, then the metagame would be unrecognizable, and everyone would quit."
>>58924084Make Ice resist Fairy. That's it. Too cold for them.Or if that's lame, make it resist Dragon instead.
>>58924084Cringe fan balancing aside, it's actually really telling how Frozen was reworked into a new status for one game and then reverted, and then Hail was reworked into a new weather immediately after, like they are trying so hard to figure out the Ice type without touching the typing's actual properties at all.
>>58924968normal super effective against fairy
