rock rhino > rhino kaiju monster > construction workerpost lines you don't use because the retroactively added final form (or mega) ruins it
>>59036915Kajus often borrow design traits from human stuff. Its a great homage. Its also a special item evo so.of course it looks different. Be glad you can use rhydon with eviolite.
>>59036915Gen 4 crossgen evolutions are god awful besides a few
>>59036942You're a fucking idiot
>>59037037Weavile and mamoswine are good, yanmega no one really minds, the rest are eye bleedingly bad and shit all over the actual versions.
>>59037329Magnezone is cool too.
>>59037394Magnezone looks retarded for a Magneton evolution. The line's gimmick was magnetic attraction, so it just becomes a UFO randomly?
>>59037329Mismagius, Honchkrow, Froslass, and Porygon-Z are all pretty good. God, looking at it I forgot how much of the Gen 4 dex is either crossgen evos or baby forms.
>>59037535Honchkrow misses the point of Murkrow and throws the witch theme onto Mismagius.
>>59037535The Porygon line going from low poly graphics to high quality graphics to suddenly glitch spazz out error shit was retarded. Same with Magnezone suddenly becoming a flying saucer like >>59037413 said and rhydon going from a kaiju to a construction worker. Gen 4 crossevos were cancer in the majority of cases.
>>59037413Magneton already looks like shit. The only good "more of them" evo is dodrio and that's only in the gen one sprite where the new head has a distinct personality
>>59037645I don't care what someone born after 1998 has to say. It had a theme that was completely abandoned for Magnezone.
>>59037413>>59037602>>59037663Magneton's gimmick is that the three Magnemite have fused together. I think it's a decent continuation of the line theme.
>>59037690>the three Magnemite have fused togetherinto a UFO out of nowhere?
>>59037690Magneton's gimmick is that they're attracted by magnetism. Why would 7 of the heads suddenly become a flying saucer and physically merge with the last two?
As a kid, I had no idea people hated Rhyperior so much
>>59037690Magnezone's*, mbbtw, did anyone else not originally notice that Magnezone is supposed to have one big eye in the middle? For the longest time I just thought it had two spaced-out eyes and the big red dot thing was just that, a big red dot.I feel like I've fallen for the "butterfly wings looking like eyes" thing except with a fictional creature
>>59037701>Is literally a Rhydon wearing protective clothingJobmon personified
>>59037701I'm boomer enough to remember all the ranting blog posts about the Gen 4 evolutions and how they ruined classic Pokemon
>>59037704Happens to loads of people.
>>59037701People are really mad that Rhydon got a job
>>59037729They can no longer relate with him.
>>59037747>him>50% female
>>59037693>>59037699What's weird about a creature that's actually 3 creatures bound together suddenly fusing? And what's weird about it being roughly inspired by a flying saucer given it already was a flying metal creature?>>59037715Rookidee is the most embarassing one because it's literally just lifted from the bird it's based off of (the great tit). I feel like a stupid buzzard thinking its eyes were much larger than they actually were.
>>59037701Faggots here hate gen 4 cross evos because they're indeed gen 4 evos and not boring hypothetical evos from their respective gen (7 MAGNEMITES STUCK TOGETHER!? FUCKING PEAK!), they suddenly care about their shitmons all of sudden as if anyone cared before and act as if they're forced to use them.I'm glad that gen 4 evos are a bit different and unique on their own, enough to stand out among their respective evo lines since that's what makes them part of gen 4 either way sinnoh still has the best dex to this day including the newly hisui mons and retards here can seethe all they want
>>59037701Because it looks too much like an alternate form than an actual evolution due to it just being Rhydon with orange playdoh randomly slapped onto it.
>>59037704>>59037715No? Retards, Magnezone's red dot is very clearly an eye.
>>59037769Do you not know how magnets work?
>>59036915Tajiri said the first mons were monsters that helped humans. There's a reason Rhydon has a drill.Hate Rhyperior all you want but there's a correlation.
>>59037701If you don't think about the design much it seems it has unecesary shit tacked on. And with the color change the horn+drill combo doesn't look as good.
>>59037826>helping humans means thats its only purpose for existing (to do human jobs) and it's whole design has to reflect that
>>59037793well nobody else except you likes Rhyperior. I would never EVER have a Rhydon in my party just because that shitty abomination exists.
>>59037701>As a kid, >I had no idea people hated Rhyperior so muchHonestly redundant statement we could tell as soon as you said the second part
>>59037840it's referencing a construction worker and it's ambiguous as fuck how about you compare rhyperior to cinderace and see what a real jobmon is, i also think it's hilariously how niggers like you forget hitmonchan jinx and machoke and especially machamp (wrestler and bodyBUILDER) exist, mons with literal clothes on but we can't point that out, right tard?>>59037850good faggot, i will keep liking rhyperior and you will seethe forever
>>59037840Learn to read.
>>59037893it has a safety vest and shoots cement out of its arms. Machoke is just kaiju but wrestler Ultraman type shit.
>>59036915you just posted the form that ruins the line
>>59037701As a kid, I had no idea people hated Rhyperior at allbecause they didn'tthe autists on here are projecting
>>59037747indeed
>>59037837>more armor>literal armor based ability>"unnecessary"maybe if you're retarded
>>59037975So if you don't think much?
>>59037961you're acting as if it's a literal safety vest which is retarded and when has it ever been mentioned that he shoots cement when it's been emphasized that he shoots rocks or pokemon?even rhinos have armor like skin, are you done acting like a dumbass?
>>59038043also>this is your kaijulmao
>>59037701Rhyhorn and don were decently popular until he came along. i remember my school right before gen 4 had a lot of people that really wanted the old card of rhydon charging forward for whatever reason and then gen 4 hit and the line immediately got memory holed. No one both in and outside the internet talks about this line anymore unless it's either people talking about Rhyperior being bad or it's Rhyperior fans being bitter about its preevos
>>59038247Rhydon is a worse design than Rhyhorn and Rhyperior and ruins the line.
>>59038260oh the latter's here already
>>59036915>construction workerNever had a problem with this because it looked like a man made/assisted evolution that requires plates that need to be cut by humans in to a specific shape. Its like human saw this huge monster thats friendly and out it to work. I can see the idea. It not be a natural evolution also opens the possibility of another evolution with a different method.
>>59037535It looks so... naked... without all the babies and cross-gen evolutions, even though the latter are mostly tucked away near the end. It doesn't even have any Fairy types anymore since Togekiss and Mime Jr. are gone.
>>59037969How could you see that sprite and hear its cry and think ‘yeah I hate this actually’.Maybe it’s a bit different if you were used to Rhydon being the final evolution for ages and thought the design changed a bit too much, but imo Rhyperior has always been cool.
>>59037793>sinnoh still has the best dex to this dayI'm sorry but not at all. A lot of the designs are extremely jarring and weird. It's probably the first time in the series we had real headscratchers. And the reason gen 4 crossevos are hated is because they ruined older Pokemon, nothing to do with gen 4 itself
>>59038354yup
>>59039175>A lot of the designs are extremely jarring and weird.nobody thinks this, contranny>And the reason gen 4 crossevos are hated is becauseof autistic tranny johtoddlers, as per usual
>>59037037The simple rule of thumbGen I Evo>Usually dogshit with a "gimmick"Gen II Evo>Perfects and finishes the line with a mon that should have always existedGen III Evo>50/50 coin flip if it's good or not
>>59039532Tangrowth is fine desu. Tangela is a bunch of vines and it evolves into a bigger bunch of vines, though I've been bothered by the fact its body is much less detailed when compared to Tangela's ever since an anon pointed that out. Same story with Roserade's "hands" vs. Roselia's.
>>59039749I don't like that Tangrowth turned the red rain boots into stumps.
>>59036915>>59037701Rhyhorn into Rhydon is an even bigger jump design-wise than Rhydon into Rhyperior, so the latter looking so different from the former never bothered me. I always thought Rhydon looked a bit too much like Nidoking, so if anything I'm glad Rhyperior took the line in a bit of a different direction.>>59039829I'm fine with that, it's remixing a design element from its previous stage so that it isn't just "Tangela but bigger".
>>59039532>>Perfects and finishes*debases and infantalizes
Happini should've been a blissey evo instead of a babyThe metagame craves a 260/15/165 special wall and blissey deserves eviolite anyway
>>59039749Tangrowth threw out Galenla from 97GS for a weird caveman gimmick (which is why it evolves with Ancient Power) I don't have a necessarily strong opinion of it but it's definitely a part of the problem with Gen IV's Gen I evos. Lots of them were like prototypical Jobmons>>59040854Nigger you can't even read, don't reply to me
>>59037699Why does Dragonair turn orange and gain limbs? Why does Servine lose its legs? A lot of evolutions don’t really make much sense on inspection, all that really matters is the design being nice to look at ultimately.
>>59041096Compared to how big a departure Magnezone is, those are miniscule changes. And at least for Dragonair's example, gen 1 Pokemon were often designed without evolutions in mind. Those came later.
>>59041076we don't post diary entries here
>>59041096>>59041117Magnemite was made after Magneton was already designed so the concept of Magnemite becoming three Magnemite was just an extension of wanting to make Magneton an evolution and likely basing it off of other mons that were designed the same way already (Dugtrio and Dodrio). That being said, Magnezone is still a bizarre design with that context. One of the head becoming larger and it becoming more UFO-shaped just seems like a random design aesthetic shift. At least it's better than Klingklang
>>59037704>>59037811Its not, its non sentient aiming device.
>>59036915I think it's really funny how simple Rhydon is, Rhyhorn's 3D model looks so complex in comparison
>>59041367>At least it's better than KlingklangIts a great design showing the advancment in simple machines.
>>59037893People forget that all human-like mons were gifts or in term of machop line a litteral cryptid. Look at the spawn rates. It supposed to be a very rare sight.
>>59037969Rhyperior was one of the evo mons people actually LIKED back in gen 4.It was Magmortar and Tangrowth getting shit.
>>59041401It doesn't lead anywhere in terms of design. The main problem is Klang, since Kling is a strong design in itself and Klingklang is just Klang with more shit on it. There's no mechanism it's trying to be, it's just gears turning for the sake of it, likely just to show off the game's animated sprites. A lot of fun about a Pokemon is the mystery of what it turns into and "more gears" is just as unsatisfactory as the old "three mons" archetype Gen I used, though back then those were treated as gags while Klang and Klingklang just don't leave anything to the imagination
>>59041409>Tangrowthwhy would tangrowth get shit? it's one of the best designed sinnoh mons
>>59036915rhyperior is ok>>59037037>>59039175cross evos are mostly good
>>59040854Politoed feels like it was created out of embarassment over Poliwrath ending up not looking like an actual frog and more so just a big tadpole. Now that there are many other frog-inspired Pokémon lines, all Politoed does is taint the Poliwag line's neoteny gimmick a bit.
>>59041865It's fine that it's an optional branch and not just Poliwrath's evolution, which you can't really say for the worse Sinnoh evos. You can either "fully mature" Poliwhirl and lose out on its potential offensive prowess or retain its form as something more unique. The only real problem is they made Politoed a trade evo, which for the branch evos, were generally inferior compared to the original Gen I evos. Politoed was basically worthless until Drizzle, which felt more like a patch than a real balance change
>>59038343Now here it is without legendaries and mythicals
>>59041891Then if you remove starters and version exclusives because you'd only see them once, the dex is simply barren. No wonder why every gen 4 team looks the same.
>rhydonfags still seethingEvery rhyhorn fan has felt this way since gen 1.
>>59037969>>59041409I am genuinely shocked there are people who appreciate Rhyperior's design but haven't killed themselves yet.It's so bad.
>>59038343>>59041891>>59041906It kinda feels like Sinnoh could ironically use some crossgen evolutions of its own. Carnivine and Lumineon are practically begging for one, but I'm sure you could come up with something for Cherrim or Chatot too.
>>59037037electivire is awesome
>>59042057I like it, but I can see how someone might feel it's a bit too different from Electivire for their taste (even though it's still based on an oni).Also, Electabuzz already had like 490 BST, so they had to siphon away its speed and only dumped points to its attack and HP, which if you have to do those, which is usually a sign that the mon you're giving an evolution to doesn't really NEED one.FURTHERMORE, these "item that only exists to help one mon evolve by trade" are stupid and should be retconned, but Electivire isn't the worst offender in this regard (it's Dusclops, they should've just made it evolve via Dusk Stone, honestly they could retcon it and nothing would change since they were added in the same generation).
>>59041906I think more people would use the cross-gen evolutions if they fucking allowed you to use them during the main story.Seriously what was up with Gen 4 and locking pretty much all the new evolutions (one of the main new draws of the generation) behind the postgame?
>>59037825Aliens.
Abysmal taste itt kill yourselves all of you
>>59040854If you think Scizor, Kingdra, Crobat and Slowking aren't great Pokes with good designs to them, then I beg you to hit the gym, bro.
>>59041865I like Poliwrath's Gen 1 sprite. It always made me think more of a jacked bullfrog rather than a tadpole, with how it looks like he has a big mouth at the upper outline of his belly and hat he could expand like a bullfrog. Kinda sad how it looked post-Gen 1 but oh well. I do like Politoed as well.
