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If Legends Hoenn happened, what do you think the starters should be?
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Popplio, Charmander, Chikorita
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>>59044188
>Chikorita
Worst starter gets the spotlight in two Legends games?
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Sprigatito, Fennekin and Popplio.
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In an ideal world it would be Litten, Sprigatito and a random water starter.
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Snivy, Charmander, Popplio, for no special reason.
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>>59044144
Snivy (Grass/Ice (said to be from the last ice age))
Fuecoco (Fire/Fairy (like the fake leaks had it))
Popplio (Water/Flying (cus of acrobatics))
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>>59044285
>Fuecoco (Fire/Fairy (like the fake leaks had it))
This would be amazing, and I wished that fake leak was real. But Skeledirge is still cool.
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>>59044251
>random water starter
Piplup, take it or leave it.
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>>59044144
Chimchar, Bulbasaur, Froakie
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>>59044421
Mega infernape?
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>>59044729
No, they each get new signature Z-moves.
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>>59044144
>Turtwig - Mega Torterra (Grass/Ground)
>Cyndaquil - Mega Typhlosion (Fire/Ghost)
>Piplup - Mega Empoleon (Water/Steel)
A normal Typhlosion and a Hisuian Typhlosion should still look noticeably different from each other when mega evolved.
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>>59044875
Plus Mega Infernape being obtainable in the postgame would be nice
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>>59044821
Best gimmick
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Why do people assume we'd 100% get Megas in Legends Hoenn? For all we know, it's set in the past before Mega Evolution was widely used. Hoennian Forms maybe?
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>>59044285
>like the fake leaks had it
ugh…
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>>59044144
>Turtwig
>Fuecoco
>Popplio
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>>59045004
Cocollona inspiration, we were robbed
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>>59045015
Not really
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>>59045005
Quite possibly the WORST starter trio ever thought of
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>>59044875
mega typhlosion should instead lean into being a mini groudon and become a mini primal groudon; fire/ground, desolate land. But it should focus on being a nuke with its special attack. Something like
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Fire/Ground
Desolate Land
cus then it could use Eruption, Earth Power/Scorching Sands, and some combo of Fire Blast/Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Extrasensory, Shadow Ball, Solar Beam, and who knows maybe a random Play Rough, Rock Slide, or Iron Head to hit a specific target if it comes up. Shame he doesn't really have any good setup moves. Not even Work Up or something like that.
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>>59045036
>fire/ground
>desolate land
Welcome back, primal groudon
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>>59044144
Hoenn starters. They are the perfect starters for the perfect region.

Hoenn is love, Hoenn is life.
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>>59045040
That is what he said in the first sentence, yes.
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>>59045091
>hoennfag
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Hoenn doesn't have actual, real lore to build off of for an interesting Legends game. All you have is
>Draconid people
And people hated that shit because Zinnia was a poorly written character. So Hoenn's basically brand poison outside of its Pokemon now. But even its most popular Pokemon is more associated with Kalos than Hoenn according to the brand
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>>59045139
Zinnia was hot though
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>>59045139
Deoxys? The REGIS? Metagross being a weird anomaly? Jirachi? Sootopolis having been there since before people were there? The underwater ruins?
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>>59045154
Legends Jirachi would be cool
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>>59045154
>The REGIS?
imagine a Legends: REGI that started with the reveal of a fire, water, and grass regi trio, and then they just kept highlighting regis until they made one for every type, and the whole game was attempting to assemble them in order to raise regigigas
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>>59045154
Rayquaza
Deoxys somehow being drawn to Hoenn once in a while
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>>59045176
forgot to finish: to raise regigigas so that it could literally drag hoenn to its current position.
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>>59045176
Story so good GF would never do it
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>>59045154
>Deoxys
No lore. Literally just an alien virus
>Regis
Superseded by Sinnoh because of Regigigas. We know Regigigas formed them and sealed them in their chambers. Galar also basically removed the Regis from being "Hoennmons"
>Metagross
Answered by not even being native to Hoenn. Steven imported them, otherwise they'd be available in the wild
>Jirachi
It's just Tanabata
>Underwater Ruins
Regi stuff

Sootopolis might be the only thing that could be explored in-depth since it's related to the lore of Kygore and Groudon but at best that means you're designing another PLA set in Hoenn's ocean area just to flesh out shit ORAS already fleshed out
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>>59045176
>>59045180
>you have to collect the plates in order to wake the individual regis that are inactive
>when they take the plates and spout out a little bit of lore from when the original giants were slain
kino.....
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>>59045193
Legends Hoenn set in the far future perhaps?
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>>59045193
>There's NO LORE TO WORK WITH because ALL THESE LEADS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY FLESHED OUT haven't been FULLY FLESHED OUT
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>>59045204
OP, what the fuck is the attatched image?
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>>59045193
>Superseded by Sinnoh because of Regigigas. We know Regigigas formed them and sealed them in their chambers.
yeah retard pull from that wtf are you talking about. Just wake the regis a thousand years after they were sealed so they can get regigigas to move the region as the grand setpiece. Retard.
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>>59045203
That would be the only other option. It's not impossible, but I feel like if they were to do a future game like Z-A it would be better suited to Kanto and we just got Pokopia or Unova. Maybe Alola so that it would actually, funnily enough, be a real Gym challenge

>>59045204
Good job reading my post wrong. I was saying they WERE fleshed out. They weren't like Arceus getting skipped over due to poor planning by Masuda, later games already filled out so much of the mystery of Hoenn's lore that there isn't shit to work with lore wise. And ORAS effectively buried its potential for historical inspection because that's the game that introduced Primal Reversion

Again, the only other thing that could be explored outside of a future game as stated before is the Draconid people. Is that really interesting?
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>>59045228
>And ORAS effectively buried its potential for historical inspection because that's the game that introduced Primal Reversion
we would totally get a mega groudon and mega kyogre that were markedly different to their primal reversions.
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>>59045212
Nice game concept. Regigigas walks across Hoenn and crams his little special boys in rocks. Do we REALLY need to see that shit with our eyes? Is that actually an interesting story to you? The legend was already told, why not do something more interesting like introduce new Regis in other regions to show Regigigas' influence? Keeping it to Hoenn removes the appeal of the Regis as a concept now
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>>59045234
If we were gonna get that we would've gotten that in Z-A because now Game Freak is trying to pretend Megas are "Kalos' gimmick" like Z-Moves, Dynamax and Tera despite the fact initially they clearly wanted Megas to be a mainstay mechanic
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>>59045235
>there's nothing to go off of
>so what if we have this idea that could be explored and expanded? we already HEARD ABOUT IT and seeing new information based on the lore would be bad, or something.
>Also there's no lore. See?
What are you doing? Why are you taking this stance? This is clearly a perfectly natural angle for a game concept especially because of the other people piping up to say that it at bare minimum sounded appealing. Bonus: you disregarded or misunderstood the actual concept of waking them in a different time than when they were sealed and instead inserted that this would be following them being sealed. Are you daft? Just being disingenuous? What's up man?
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>>59045245
>they clearly wanted Megas to be a mainstay mechanic
So why introduce nothingburger gimmicks going forward?
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>>59045259
They decided to introduce a new gimmick each gen because of how successfully mega evolution went
then they got mad nobody liked z-moves and backtracked to just having the new mechanic and not having previous ones
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>>59045253
Because I'm talking about what makes for an interesting game and not some kind of background text for an actual game. Lore can't carry a game, going "we can flesh out this idea" is one thing but if it doesn't have a reason to interact with it, then there's no purpose in trying to say it's ripe with potential. If you want to make a Regi game, that has nothing to do with Hoenn as a concept. It can be applied to anywhere since the Regis have been divorced from Hoenn's history and became general franchise

What I'm saying is, this is like trying to make a Unova game about the Swords of Justice instead of the Unova Dragons. It's not substantial enough to work with since it's not the main core backbone of the region that you're trying to flesh out. You have to focus on what the identity of the region is and include all the minor side legendaries alongside it to make for a more fleshed out game world. That's what PLA did. Something that can be told in a cutscene or fetchquest isn't a satisfying idea, especially one to play

>>59045259
Ohmori is a bad conceptual director and falls under similar design gimmicks and tropes that Masuda fell into himself after GS. Also he probably just didn't want to keep Megas around for whatever reason and only got to cut them when he was able to make a game without Masuda's restrictions. I can't imagine any developer would want to go the direction Ohmori did with SM, SwSh and SV without any ounce of spite or disinterest in Megas in particular. It's no wonder they only got brought back in a Legends game
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>>59045293
>Because I'm talking about what makes for an interesting game and not some kind of background text for an actual game. Lore can't carry a game,
>>59045193
come on dude

also a unova game centered on the muskedeers could totally work. What are you smoking? Why WOULDN'T that work?
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>>59045308
>buh because musketeers are french and I want my wild west unova fanfic
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>>59045338
Ancient unova was medieval, why do people think would it suddenly be a wild west?
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>>59045338
>wild west cajun muskedeers wearing armor in unova
kino.....
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>>59045308
>>59045338
Oh yeah the Swords of Justice going to save Keldeo from a burning forest. Why not just remake the fucking Three Musketeers but in the wild west and that's your lore?

Monumental difference between going "wouldn't this be cool?" and "how would this add to the world building?" is all I'm saying. If people actually were creative, there'd be enough room for real fangames like the Ultra Space fangame being made in Essentials right now. I genuinely don't see anyone actually being creative with Hoenn and nothing in this thread has proven to me otherwise, all it started was with "what starters should we steal from other games for our hypothetical Hoenn lore game?"

How about a 50s era Hoenn game that has Godzilla analogies focused on Slateport. We can even feature Volcanion so that it finally gets some fucking attention for the first time. Or maybe a game focusing on why Pokemon Contests are popular in the region and fucking nowhere else, maybe give Daisy Oak a cameo since she's canonically a coordinator? If you REALLY want to explore Hoenn lore, Latios and Latias have basically been COMPLETELY untouched while the Regis have been thoroughly fleshed out thanks to Sinnoh
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>>59045379
Volcanion and Hoopa are Kalos-Hoenn mythicals per teraleak, so Legends Volcanion in Hoenn makes sense.
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>>59045338
OP here, this was satire. I do not want a wild west legends game.
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>>59044144
Scorbunny, Froakie, Sprigatito
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>>59045410
Did you choose those 3 on random?
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>>59045434
maybe :)
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>>59045406
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>>59045139
>Hoenn doesn't have actual, real lore to build off of for an interesting Legends game
They literally built a pair of shrines that control the reincarnation cycle of Pokémon, and did so as a means to trap Kyogre/Groudon. Then there were the blind people who lived in harmony with the Regis, the weird pure heart seal over Southern Island and why Lati@s hide there, and some ORAS stuff like Hoopa warping islands (leaks showed Gamefreak actually considers Hoopa a Hoennmon).

You're also acting as if the previous two Legends titles actually meaningfully expanded upon any of the lore in Sinnoh and Kalos.
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>>59045544
Also the Jade Orb from HGSS. Would be a prime example to reintroduce it, expand upon it, and give us Primal Rayquaza.
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>>59045379
why the fuck is your entire argument
>YOUR IDEA SUCKS CUS UH I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING COOL TO DO WITH IT!! THERE'S LIKE 2 THINGS THAT ALREADY TOUCHED IT SO WE CAN NEVER DO ANYTHING NEW WITH IT EVER AGAIN!!! HERE'S SOME RANDOM DOGSHIT I CAME UP WITH THAT WOULD BE WAAAAAAAY BETTER!!!!
absolute retard
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>>59045544
Not worth arguing with him considering he simply says
>there's no good lore about that
if it's open-ended and
>there's already too much stuff about that
if it's got an obvious direction to go in.
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>>59045549
Why the fuck would we get a Primal Rayquaza when a Mega already exists?
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>>59045598
He's the average /vp/tard, probably a failed attempt at ragebaiting
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>>59044144
As an anon in here said, a Legends Hoenn set in the future could work. And instead of shilling three random starters from three different regions, have the hoenn starters get new forms or some shit.
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>>59046151
>have the hoenn starters get new forms
Then that doesn't follow the Legends formula, retard
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Serperior. Empoleon. Skeledirge.

Gmax forms.

Serperior turns into a gigantic Jörmungandr sized snek.
Empoleon gets more angular and metallic and looks sort of like a ship when attacking


Skeledirge engulged completely in flames with musical notes in the whisps
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>>59044144
pokopia is already inspired by ruby and sapphire which is why they couldn't resist shoving in gen 3 into a KANTOOOOOOO game
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>>59046177
I think you misread OP's post champ
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>>59044144
This thread:
30% starter predictions
70% retarded arguments
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The worst starters that need Megas



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