lmao
>>59044802Anti game keycard sisters…
Pokemon spin-offs usually don't sell more than one million, and this is an exclusive on the Switch 2 with a far smaller install base than Switch 1Remarkable really, I have no copes left.
>>59044823Why is Wario coping
PokopiaChads Won
>>59044823Why Wario looks so sad?
>>59044833>>59044828because he knows no matter how much money he makes he'll never be as successful as Mario
>>59044802They hit the right audience to this game:Women & "women"
>>590448021 million in Japan is nuts. Better than the opening weekend of any third version, of FRLG and LGPE.
>>59044898It made more in 4 days than lifetime sales of any PMD game.I hate this timeline.
>>59044823Now now, this should be on the containment thread at /v/ in a few hours.Let not polluted other board with this retard.
>>59044901What was "PMD" again?
>>59044802>1m alone in japanGod, /v/ will be a bigger shithole than normal for a few days.
>>59044911Don’t call Wario a retard please he’s my main in the Mario spinoffs
>>59044802Still completely convinced the majority of buyers never played or heard of Dragon Quest Builders 2. They completely slept on what a good game it was so now they think Pokopia is "good out of nowhere". It was definitely not out of nowhere, lol.Hardcore Pokémon brand loyalists stepping out of their comfort zone to try other good games: challenge impossible.
It's Pokemon that pulls from Animal Crossing and Dragon Quest Builders. It targets the "cozy audience" that made Stardew Valley one of the biggest indie games of all time. I knew from the moment it was revealed that it was going to be an absolute massive hit and thought it was crazy how people on social media were downplaying it. It's a system seller, there's no question, as now the same social media is talking/posting pics of retail selling out of Switch 2 consoles alongside Pokopia. This game is going to keep selling over the years, too. Players are getting an absolute kick out of this game, and I'm happy for them.
>>59044952You don’t have to be convinced of that. The average person hasn’t even heard of Dragon Quest lol
>>59044823ironic that you shit on deen, slop selling so well is bad for the franchise and the fans. this is why gf gets away with releasing worse and worse games
>>59044952Nobody knowing what dq even is outside of Japan is probably a big partnof that.
>>59044976Maybe you need to get your head out of Deen's ass, use your own eyes and see the game is good.
Who the fuck is Deen
>>59044998A retard grifter.So just ignore it, he irrelevant except on /v/
>>59044998some fat retard on youtube that makes anti nintendo shit grift videos.the only people that watch his dogshit and talk about it are ironically weirdo nintendo fanboys though.
>>59044952>>59044973>>59044992Kind of square's fault that DQ fell off even in Japan, wasn't there that article where they asked kids about it and most kids answered that they prefer Pokemon?
>>59044952Dragon Quest franchise is more popular to boys than girls which tells why Pokemon makes more sells on cozy gameplay regardless of the gender.
>>59044952The only reason people are glazing tf out of builders is because they want to shit on pokemon pokopia may not have as much stuff to do but what it does offer is far more polished than the builders games. Its like comparing morrowind to Skyrim.>>59044811Let's be real traditional cartridges are about as useful as keycards when Nintendo can just brick your entire system on command
>>59044952That's Square's fault for not promoting their game properly then. Nobody is obliged to play DQB just because it came first lol
>>59044998They did the Higurashi anime
>>59044952Even if they did DQB doesn’t have the iconic roster
>>59044901Maybe in terms of profits since it's selling for $70Though I expect it to catch up in sales too soon enough
>>59044919the game that makes you a gay furry
>>59044952DQB2 is my favourite 'cozy game' and Malroth is best boy. Once it was confirmed the team was also working on Pokopia I knew it had to be good.
>>59045037Morrowind clears skyrim in every way that matters. Oblivion compared to skyrim is a much better comparison as there's actually an argument to be made for both
>>59044952Everyone knows nigga. It's just that no one played it because no one in the west cares about DQ. I didn't either.Surprise surprise, you put it in a setting people do care about and they play it.Shame Pokopia doesn't have the combat part though. Having to actually consider the town's defense seemed like the most interesting part of DQB.
>>59044921The meltdown tomorrow will be epic
>>59045028I think that was a tweet originally of a guy deciding whether young'uns prefer FF or DQ and they didn't like either.Turns out not releasing any games isn't a solid strategy to bring in new fans
>>59045101I wouldn't think recent FF games would even appeal to their age range.
>>59045101Wii era had the best time to develop/graphics ratio
>>59044952Dragon Quest is a bland IP, a game like this lives or dies on the quality of the IP.I wouldn't give two shits about Pokopia if it was about Toriyama(rip) sameface humans instead of interesting creatures like Pokemon.
>>59045028Yeah, it fell off pretty hard with gen z forward and I don't blame them. SE thinks people only care about FF so they manifested this reality into existence
>>59045101>Turns out not releasing any games isn't a solid strategy to bring in new fansI get why FF games take so long to come out(even if the end result is rarely ever worth the wait) but is there any reason why it takes a decade for a new dragon quest or persona to drop? These games arent switching things up dramatically with each entry, nor are they using the latest and greatest tech. These franchises shouldn't be having gaps nearly as wide as GTA when it comes to new engries
>>59045066It will outsell these combined. I do expect them to cash in on rogue likes again eventually, but mystery dungeon games are just not system sellers in 2026.
Why the fuck is this shit doing so well when Mystery Dungeon couldn’t ever replicate this? Not even the Explorers games on DS back in the peak spinoff era? It’s not just the style but I also prefer dungeon crawling gameplay with actual gameplay and battles compared to….this
>>59045137I will admit there's a culture gap here. The characters in DQ all look ugly to me and I don't want to look at them. Pokemon are cute and seeing them makes me happy.
>>59045251Games like Mystery Dungeon are too complex for casuals.
>>59045037Funny you would say that since if your console is bricked your key card is useless whereas a traditional cart can be sold to get back some money.
>>59045251People seem to prefer cozy land building to dungeon crawling or fighting for that matter. Hell it completely crushed Pokken in sales and I'm 100% sure it Champions will review worst than it. Not that there's anything wrong with Pokepia, its really fun and addicting.
>>59045251The gameplay of those is niche as fuck is why. It was the mid 2000s and the DS boosting weirder game formulas like that is history. This is animal crossing and Minecraft glued together with cute pokemon on top, of course people are going to enjoy it in droves.
>>59045251Tried Mystery Dungeon last year and do not understand the hype. Only memorable part was the music
>>59045251Mystery dungeon is cute but ultimately very clunky, the gameplay kind of sucks, people love the stories
>>59044901Don't worry. New PMD games will be based on Pokopia world from now on.
>>59045386>New PMD gameslol
>>59044802Sales numbers are useless, especially if the only source confirming them is Nintendo itself. There's nothing stopping them from just lying. A lot of companies manipulate their numbers like that, too...
>>59045324I’ve never played Animal Crossong or Minecraft before (no interest), what makes it appealing compared to proper gameplay?
>>59044952Did builders 2 have any prebuilt enviorments that are as interesting to explore as pokopia? I liked builders 1 but ended up never getting builders 2.
>>59044802>>59044802I hate keycards and I bought my copy digitally like any rational person would. I'm never buying a keycard unless it's $10 on eBay or smthn
>>59045251It's simply that there are more people buying video games and consoles now than before, and there also hasn't been a new PMD game in nearly 11 years.
>>59044965>It's Pokemon that pulls from Animal Crossing and Dragon Quest Builders.People keep comparing it to DQB because of the developers, but to me it's more like Wattam, Lack of Love, and a bit of SimLife with how you're basically making ecosystems of Pokemon. DQB had more of a classic RPG feel than Pokopia does.
>>59045251Mystery Dungeon is an extremely niche style of game while Minecraft is one of the least niche types of games.
>>59045251People like minecraftPeople like AC and "cozy" style gamesStuff like pixelmon/cobblemon or dare I say PALWORLD were already popularThis is just cashing in on it and they put in the marketing for once
>>59044952>>59045089I was really hyped about Dragon Quest Builders 1 when I first started playing it, but the novelty wears off after some time and the world is quite boring. I recently tried the DQB2 demo on Switch 2, and while it got me interested in the DQB series again (I ended up choosing to wait for Pokopia instead of buying it), it was clearly nowhere near as good as Pokopia. It's not just nobody having heard of Dragon Quest (though that certainly didn't help DQB1 and DQB2), Pokopia is just straight up better unless you really care about the RPG elements or the combat.>>59045037's Morrowind-Skyrim comparison is apt. Some diehard fans insist Morrowind is better, but the vast majority of players greatly prefer Skyrim, even after playing both. (I personally found it to have great potential, but the world seemed boring and I much preferred the Gothic series at the time.)>>59045533Unless it changes radically after the demo, not at all. The world is as empty as DQB1's. There's a demo for DQB2 on the eShop, you should check it some time.
>>59045251PMD wasn't an all-encompassing casual game, even if it was designed to be Babby's First Mystery Dungeon. Reviewers and casuals alike got hard filtered by the gameplay because it required them to think too hard, so the series remained niche outside of those who were willing to learn and adapt, and a lot of the time forced you to go with the story's flow or get stuck at a point until you either got lucky or grinded enough to have stats/items good enough to survive.Pokopia meanwhile is just a no-stakes sandbox where you can build, "vibe" and progress the game's incredibly loose story at your own leisurely pace.
>>59045260>The characters in DQ all look ugly to me and I don't want to look at them.Toriyamasisters...
>>59046137I mean even Dragonball girls are mid at best. Maybe 18 could be considered hot. Most of them are just propped up from being part of a huge series. I am a sucker for GT Pan cunny though
>>59044921I don't go back there anymore, last time I checked on it, the whole board thinks anything outside of visceral hatred for games beyond 2009 means you're a jewish shill. They're allergic to happiness that doesn't come from the failure of a modern game.
>>59046154I'm glad someone else said it. Dragonball's got great art direction but fuck, I don't see how anyone can find the female designs attractive outside of off-model fanart.
Streamer buzz is also highly positive meaning the game is likely to become a system seller for a few more weeks. Having 0 competition right now helps.
>>59046154Toriyama struck gold with teen bulma, he couldnt improve perfection after that masterpiece
I don't understand why you guys are mad at all. It's a good game.
>>59046407I'm mad that it's a good game, because games like this are further proof that GameFreak is sabotaging the IP with their incompetence.
>>59046411And? That's been a fact for decades, if not always. Be glad they even let the franchise into other people's hands occasionally.
>>59044823this isn't a spinoff, its a dragon quest builders reskin
>>59046429I know that. I just hate being reminded about it.I wish TPC would cut this fucking tumor off the franchise already. Imagine every single Pokemon game having the quality and soul of Pokopia, or even better.
Pokopians winning again
non-autistic audiences are tired of pokemon battlesthey just wanna live with cute pokemon
>>59044952The performance of DQB2 soured me so bad I never bought it. It ran like total shit.
I’ve never played Minecraft or Animal Crossing or DQ Builders like ever, so what’s the appeal? How similar is Pokopia? Is Pokopia even an RPG?
>>59045028>don't make game for five years>be shocked when kids want the games that consistently come outWho the fuck is running Squeenix and why are they completely retarded?
>>59047130battle autism and live with cute pokemon npc autism is still autism at the end of the day
>>59047152Square is literally straining themselves hyper focusing on FF7 right now. Literally nothing else matters to them right now.
>>59047168And even that's purely for nostalgia babies. Kids generally don't give a shit about the scale and detail that the FF7 remake games have. They play fortnite and roblox for fuck's sake.
>>59044952It's kinda sad, honestly.This will sell more than both Builders combined and just because it has the Pokemon sticker slapped on it.However, it's also an odd situation, since Pokemon spin-offs have a long history of mediocre sales so Pokopia is an anomaly.The magic formula for this one, in my opinion, was the dash of Animal Crossing to appeal to "cozy gamers". That was the glue.All that said, maybe I'm out of touch, but 2mil for this with all the hype behind it all that crazy marketing all the super good reviews and apparently selling out everywhere feels kind of low? I'm probably exceedingly wrong but going to look at other Swich 2 day 1 sales to compare is too much effort to me.This game does feel like it'll have legs though rather than be a one and done though.
>>59047172>And even that's purely for nostalgia babies.And they went and fucked that up too.It's insane. If you went back in time 10 years (well more like 15 or 20 now, fuck I am old) and told everyone that Square went and fucked up the fabled golden ticket free out of jail card that was the VII Remake no one would believe you and they'd look at you as if you were crazy because of how impossible it is to fuck-up such a guaranteed slam dunk.
>>59047277I don't really get the Animal Crossing comparisons. It's not really like any of the games.
>>59047292Of course it's not a 1:1 but the similarities are clear to anyone with eyes. People say AC when they could say of the other cozy build your town games but AC is to go-to since that's the Nintendo one. It's very much a game aiming for that audience.
>>59047277"The magic formula for this one" is the same one they've always had. Game Freak providing the concept of the thing and direct input into its presentation. The first console exclusive spin off involving Game Freak and it happens to hit a mark other spin off games or series see as lifetime or high water marks. And immediately putting the lot on notice regarding lifetime best-selling totals.
>>59044888Accurate. I'm surprised they haven't gone harder on the bitchmade genres like town building and other micromanaging shit that chicks love and just slapped Pokemon on it.
>>59044952Yeah Anon, somehow I highly doubt it
>>59047375>>59047375>"The magic formula for this one" is the same one they've always had. Game Freak providing the concept of the thing and direct input into its presentation.Tell that to BDSP.>The first console exclusive spin off involving Game Freak and it happens to hit a mark other spin off games or series see as lifetime or high water marks.Get real. You think Pokopia had been a fighting game or RTS it would have sold just as much just because GF was hovering over whoever they hired to make the make?And again, BDSP was exactly like that, and the result was a disaster. And don't give me that shit about ILCA le bad because you go look at all other ILCA games and they're very competent games.
>>59044823Funny thing is bro was saying from the start that it was gonna be major hit in japan, so knowing close to half its total sales is from that region is pretty much right on the mark. But I don't think anyone was expecting it to do poorly, him included. So idk what the hubbub is. If you bought into the switch 2 pokepia has been the first relevant title since bananza. I dont care about small fry shit like air riders and hyrule worriors. They aint Pokémon. there's literally a swath of people who were sitting around with a thumb up their ass waiting for something to do on this thing, and they finally got it. Of course its gonna make a splash.Sales aside, I think it requires a special level of lame to be amused by a static model with limited canned animations and cheap text bubbles going (ohhhhhhhhh my house is so comfy thank ditto san you amazing ooooooooooh). Seeing the world of "sweats" trying to recreate actual mainline game towns and other locations is funny cuz its just busy work the game. Cozy games are a scam and basically mobile phone core. And the fact all these goobers are dropping so much for it is something to behold.
>>59047152It's more about the modern-day game dev cycle, which takes at least 5 years to make a new game.
This is the first Pokémon game in a long time that actually feels like it was made with passion and effort. Not to mention actually doing something interesting with its world.
>>59044823We also haven't had a real Pokemon spin off since like Super Mystery Dungeon. It's all been mobile slop, gacha, GO, and maybe the occasional remake
>>59048501helps that it wasnt made by Gamefreak
>>59047537>Tell that to BDSP.The games that sold 15m, same as both L: A and LGPE? Yeah, that's my point you dumb bastard. Never mind BDSP is a remake of a past Game Freak game. Some little incels who assumed Game Freak's roadmap for the 8th Generation are irrelevant to how it actually performed (in case you missed it, those same little incels despise everything Game Freak do these days because it's not aimed at them AND it's still fucking succeeding WILDLY without them. cf the #BBND 'tards continuing to seethe the world wasn't as hideously autistic like they so didn't give a shit for a boycott).And if Pokopia was anything other than what it is, it'd STILL be developed by Game Freak as a direct part of their world, unlike every other fucking spin off that are allowed to present the world, but not actually treated as canon to the Game Freak games or universe like they're currently considered. Which immediately makes it interesting to faggots who only play Game Freak games (haven't given a shit for spin offs since Gen 1 and TCG/OG Pinball. I'm sorely tempted to buy Pokopia because a spin off made by the devs who make the core series games automatically means the universe's lore will be respected, unlike the games who flat-out used theft of pokémon as a recruitment mechanic).
>>59046432So a spin-off?Like Mystery Dungeon?A Shiren reskin?
>>59048826Yeah I dunno what's with the bitching. Pokken and Conquest were also loosely based on Tekken and Nobunaga's Ambition. All those puzzle games were based on shit like Panel De Pon. Pokemon Go itself is based on Ingress.
>>59047277It also doesn't have DQB's shitty combat.
