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https://youtu.be/WfIcDcxrXzs?si=-S782od0t6ihtrS- ( Premiering)
http://n64vault.wikidot.com/ssb-tools:smash-remix-cut-content

Thoughts?
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Boshibros...
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>>10881857
Additional cut/pitched characters:
>Meta Knight
>Mach Rider
>Bomberman
>G&W
>Vaporeon (based on Super Smash Land)
>Erdrick/Hero
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So, new version when?
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This looked fucking ugly.
the Smash 2 hybrid design had the best direction in mind, something actual Smash would do anyways.
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Smash 2 Lucas for comparison sake
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>>10881857
>Raichu
Good. That one Melee mod added him and I couldn't focus on playing because I kept thinking about his big paws.
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okay who here is gonna try finishing dk jr?
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apparently one of the devs remade eb64 lucas as a patch for 1.5.2
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577655757726810114/1233154405038030879/EB64_Lucas.xdelta?ex=662c1009&is=662abe89&hm=070c71627c63f6cda22e0520f68334532450c1bef41f046c65b85eb1ca5bc65a&
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>>10881854
>Boshi with Geno/Mallow skins instead of doing the actual characters
Holy shit
they really fucking hate Geno
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>>10882353
Neat i guess
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>>10882023
Raichu was one of the saving graces of BM
Imagine if the mod wasn't made to grift off on being first in the fresh modding scene...

Diet Melee was pretty damn good though.
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Jesus, the fan and official devs really hate Paper Mario.
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>>10881854
>thread about cut content for a fan hack
God this board is gay
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>>10882416
Not everyone!
https://twitter.com/MilesFox10/status/1774216363650748797
https://twitter.com/MilesFox10/status/1774090662704460287
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>>10882431
the official shit is boring
at least Meowth was actually worked on at one point.
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>>10882405
What's this have to do with Raichu's feet, though?
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>>10881854
>cut content of a fan mod
it's a fan mod who cares? if you like fan mods then I like you a lot?
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>>10882808
Why are you mentioning about sex to me?
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>>10883002
Found the loser who soifaces each time a Sakurai video/tweet goes live.
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>>10883538
False dichotomy faggot.
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>>10883002
>if you like fan mods then I like you a lot?
If ESLs left, this website might be usable again.
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Wait wtf there's a Jet Force Gemini editor?
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>>10884230
You mean the Golden Eye Editor?
Yeah, it can mod a ton of popular N64 games
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>>10883859
Stop denying it, fart huffer.
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>>10883859
>>10884236
Ladies, please. You're BOTH fags.
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>>10884236
>>10883859
>>10884242
Things are heating up in the retro smash fandom
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>>10883538
what the other anon said is quite an honest opinion,is a fan hack no big deal if they cut or add stuff.
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>>10884234
Has anyone done anything cool with it? A new JFG campaign romhack would be awesome
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A character idea that I legit thought was going to be in the original Smash Bros when I was little, because of the nature of the final boss.

>Weight of Ness, but doesn't have scaling knockback like other characters
>Instead of killing the character you must kill its weapon
>Without the weapon its attacks are weakass
>Weapon has property change mechanics like Min-Min;
>Normal mode most flexible
>Bowling Mode high damage, short range
>Bearing Mode is like normal but less flexible and eats through projectiles when launched
>Enemies hit the weapon hard enough for Crystal Mode, and the character is unable to transform its weapon for a bit.
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>>10884242
>>10884271
I'm this >>10883859 poster, not the same as this one >>10883002. I don't disagree entirely with the guy who mentioned soifacing at Sakurai (aka, accepting whatever is officially released simply because it's official), but just pointing out that his "whataboutism" false dichotomy is not an excuse for IF a fan mod sucks: fan mods are not exempt from criticism just because they're made by fans. I also have some minor issues with Smash Remix, but I like 99% of what they've done with it. Now, KISS ME!
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>>10882402
....or, a reskinned Yoshi is a lot easier to make than a whole new character
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Was he even ever considered?
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>>10885714
I have had a similar weight change mechanic concept for Zip from FlingSmash. Except instead of using balls, it's entire body is the ball/weapon.
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>>10885772
At this rate, the whole "community effort" thing doesn't work.

Too much bias around, low interest getting characters like Bomberman Meowth barelu finished, and not enough assembly autists to get the stuff work as should.
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>>10887453
*Bomberman & Meowth barely
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>>10885713
Only one level was made out of it sadly :(
http://n64vault.com/wiki:jet-force-gemini-levels
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>>10884271
>pic
i still hate the fact Saitoslop got in before some of the beefier Xeno choices (and Crono by extension)

Fuck Scamco and fuck Square-Penis
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>>10882402
>>10885772
>>10887453
genuinely can attest to the fact some high ranked devs there fucking hated geno, same for their tranny discord members
when marina was revealed i recall going there with an old dusty discord account i hadn't used in years, and asked if geno could ever be possible
several devs and most of the people posting there effectively made fun of the idea and called geno garbage
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>>10887781
pyra and mythra make my heart happy and my cock hard so i'm glad they got in
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>dk jr
>mach rider
>hero
>meta knight
>waluigi
>all were made by just one dude and the other devs didn't like the characters enough to help
you can really tell it was just bias that caused these cuts. "oh i don't like that character, i want two melee backports instead dude"
"yeah me too"
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>>10888724
Smashfather was shilling the fuck
out of Waluigi in the server though
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>>10888834
not enough it seems
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>anons on /3/ trying to get some dude who was sharing Metroid 64 custom models to help with Smash Remix
>all in hopes to get Ridley and maybe other Metroid monsters to appear in it
>joins in
>all they ever worked on was mostly the newer Ultimate-styled trailers and Dark Samus
>possible chance Ridley got Waluigi'd as well (GE Editor limitations) since it's a lanky fucking space dragon
Life is quite shit sometimes.
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>>10888849
so this whole time smash remix was made solely out of a goldeneye editor?
they never attempted to fix the limitations or make a new editor?
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>>10888849
link to thread?
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>>10888620
Geno is the cringey tranny pick. Fuck off.
>>10887453
>Bomberman
Great
>meowth
Random AF and lame
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>>10888724
Melee ports are definitely some uninspired soulless autism pics. Should have focused on 3rd party never evers from that gen. Goemon was a great pick.
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>>10889028
Here bro, here's your goldeneye editor source code (1 out of 525 files) https://litter.catbox.moe/zlvqkc.cpp
source: someone who foolishly thought they could fix this
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>>10889437
Why there is a 10k lines file? Wtf, i guess i'm too used to java
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>>10881857
MMX, yes pls
>>10882010
That’s from the N64 version of Mother 3
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>>10889530
The entire editor is over 1 million lines of code, and is largely the same quality as that file. It is a pet project written by someone who didn't know C++ in the early 2000s, and didn't bother to refactor as it was always meant to be a closed source tool for a niche group of modders.
That said, decomp will allow better tools (in the future).
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>>10889567
God i hope so
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>>10889563
>That’s from the N64 version of Mother 3
Yes and?
The point being was that one of devs there thought being exactly faithful was a good idea. It's like going with the American Ness clay model for the game.

>>10889028
Smash Remix is a combo between
>a few code monkeys that can do some assembly magic (and motived yo get back at that stupid scammer)
>any blender/maya fag that can provide
>the 19XX guy who merged their mod with SR, hence why it's snappy and full of features.
>anyone who can figure out what the editor can or can't do beyond an a few basic fighter animations or reskins
>anyone who can recreate veterans, only to have a new feature available to modders who want to make new characters (see: the Clone Engine, where you have to mod Pit so Ridley can have a glide and projectile )
>the additional effort to just add all the officially cut characters back into Smash 64 (the reason why boring ass Marth is in)
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Someone made a mod that swaps the images in the CSS with the ones from Ultimate and it's kind of pathetic, because it makes you realize only 3 characters out of the whole ass mod are ones that have never been in Smash Bros. The rest are all veterans.
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>>10889331
The t-words that are actually invested in SMRPG (via the remake) all gravitate to Mallow, just because he's cries, muh wholesome character design, and dons a similar color scheme to their flag, and think Geno is somewhat cringe because it's your typical cool guy that joins your RPG party.
They straight up Geno for the most contrarian shit, despite already trying to add SMRPG content in the game.
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>>10889735
If it was all original characters who never appeared officially, nobody wouldn't have picked up the mod or even help with the mod, then ask what's their issue on adding Ganondorf into the game.
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>>10889716
>Yes and?
The point is that the models reference the N64
Just look at the dedede
>It's like going with the American Ness clay model for the game
Not at all, that’s not related to the 64 and Ness was already in the base game
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>>10889331
Geno is for chads. Mallow is for faggots and trannies because of his crying and "muh character development".
>>10889746
It was cool when it the veterans were different enough from their "official" counterparts but then we had shit like Mewtwo, Marth and Sheik being literal Melee backports.
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>>10889747
>The point is that the models reference the N64
and they eventually found it unappealing and not workable, rightfully so. But they, instead, went with the extreme opposite for Lucas by going with his GBA appearance with no alternatives to spare.
>Just look at the dedede
His situation was different. Nobody has issues with his Super Star design, they decided to go with his 64 design because there's already more stuff in the mod that isn't trying to be a realistic decision for a Smash title.
>Not at all, that’s not related to the 64 and Ness was already in the base game
Even if it wasn't 64-related, it had the same exact issue on doing a 100% faithful appearance of beta Lucas.
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>>10889760
>but then we had shit like Mewtwo, Marth and Sheik being literal Melee backports.
If you knew what backporting actually is, you wouldn't be throwing attacks at any character that debuted in Melee.
Like all the existing vets in the game were redone from scratch and reference. Even Dark Samus who's actually has a few unique stuff Ultimate Dark Samus doesn't have herself.

and there was even PM adding in Mewtwo, who plays, sounds, and looks exactly like his Melee counterpart, and still receive surmount praise among fans.

Point is that all these veteran "remakes" still have to exist if it means to get people interested in this mod or to figure out what can be implemented into the Smash 64 gameplay itself. Mostly obligations than something out of their own passion.
I mean, I'm not a big fan of Fire Emblem or OoT myself.
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>>10889796
They literally already have movesets
That’s why they were put in there, nothing more
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>>10889796
they have the same exact animations, frame data and similar hitboxes as in melee
it's like akaneia backporting charizard, diddy and sonkc
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>>10889808
>They literally already have movesets
and? Do you actually think moveset tweaks would be enough to sell to these people?
People also bitched about Wario and Sonic too.
>That’s why they were put in there,
or they had to purpose to fulfill within the development of Smash Remix
Could be someone trying to prove Mewtwo, Dedede and Bowser can still be added despite the technical limits they had to adhere too.
or someone wanted to add in templates where people can make new characters out of it recycle from.


Because Marth could have been some separate random Lucina mod for all i care, or do you actually think they weren't aware of the low interest of the certain characters they already greenlighted for the game?

>>10889812
>they have the same exact animations, frame data and similar hitboxes as in melee
This is like saying Melee Falco has the same framedata and animations as to it's spiritual predecessor, SSB Fox.
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>>10889885
Nah melee falco has 64's laser but the rest is just melee fox with different properties
Compare remix mewtwo, marth and sheik with their melee counterparts and you'll see the animations are all exactly the same, unlike wario, bowser, dedede and lucas
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>>10890060
>Nah melee falco has 64's laser
Uh huh, sure.
>unlike wario, bowser, dedede and lucas
-People made fun of Wario for getting even more variations of Mario's (and Yoshi's) moveset.
-Lucas plays exactly like his Brawl and modern counterparts, the same with Bowser, another Melee debuting character funny enough.
-Dedede didn't get anything new besides a better Waddle Dee Toss.

and i already mentioned about Sonic earlier, who wasn't exempt from bitching despite getting dropdash as a new mechanic.
Yeah, Sonicfags like to nitpick about everything, but so do Smash fans. Getting a slighty different moveset or being less of a port job would stop anyone from bitching.
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>>10890245
>would
*wouldn't
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>>10890245
What I mean is you can easily tell that those three had everything ported off melee, but wario, bowser and lucas have different looking animations.
That's the difference, they made new animations from scratch. Bowser has a whole new up air.
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>>10890272
>What I mean is you can easily tell that those three had everything ported off melee, but wario, bowser and lucas have different looking animations.
Even if it's traced from Melee or any other existing Smash game: So? Do you actually think that's the root
reason why people got fed up with Marth or such or why Melee vets gets more heat than some of the Brawl vets?
Here's a hint: It has nothing to do with whatever Smash Remix is doing or how they add new or old characters.

>Bowser has a whole new up air.
Refer to the last sentence of my previous post >>10890245
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>>10890313
PRECISELY RETARD THAT'S WHY I DISLIKED THOSE THREE SPECIFICALLY SINCE THEY'RE CARBON COPIES OF THEIR MELEE SELVES
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>>10890334
>I dislike Marth because he didn't swing his sword differently
Ok
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>>10881854
Shame about Bomberman.

>>10882353
Got any pictures or webms of this Lucas in action?
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>>10889739
>t-words
faggot.
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>>10890457
>he doesn't know
I'll ghost post on desuarchive and you'll understand.
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>>10882416
If only they released game & watch they would have the tech to copy paste on paper mario, shame
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>>10890512
What, scared of le ebil tranny janny's ban mallet? Guess not being to interact online for 3 days is basically death for zoomers, so don't forget to change your diapers big boy.
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>>10885714
Would be cool but that kind of mechanic is too advanced for the N64 Era. Hell, even the Ice Climbers would be a stretch. Good thing nobody truly likes the latter as much as they simply tolerate them.
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>>10883002
I like you a lot too anon!
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>>10890842
Okay janny.



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