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If I don't need a PC, I certainly don't need an Xbox either.
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I can't imagine how dogwater all of those ports are.
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>>12177773
Still better than being a cube shitter
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>>12177769
lol controllertards
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>>12177773
Loading times/sections aside, everything is fine.
The performance is probably much better than any performance you would get from a $300 PC back then.

The only notable downgrade in on AoE2: low FoV and limited population. Obvious limitations from low knowledge of the PS2 hardware.
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>>12177773
It's sad I can tell how mad you are about 20+ year old console ports.
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>>12177829
>everything is fine
Poor dog.
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>>12177773
I'm playing red faction right now and it's an incredible port. They nailed the controls . Usually don't like fps on a ds
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>>12178297
Really good autoaim, huh?
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Name something sadder in 2025 than PS2 ports of PC games.
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>>12178491
This is actually sarcasm to exemplify how pointless an Xbox was even at the time of its release.
Of course, these games aren't a big deal today, because how easy it's to access the best way to play any retro game imaginable, but back then it was great to have the opportunity to play some great PC games without actually having a PC (or a capable one).
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>>12178491
Using a PC to emulate 64 games.
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>>12177769
>tfw bought half life ps2 port for 10 bucks 20 yrs ago and now the price went up
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>>12178541
>still fighting the console war 20 years later
You need to grow up
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>>12179321
I bought it for 20 dollars 22 years ago. Half Life 1 on PS2 was released as a budget title.
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>>12177769
that's all the crap versions. only "good" about them was that autoaiming on the console versions made most of the games easier.
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>>12178297
Kek I'm playing soldier of fortune on ps2
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>>12177773
Beside load times I actually prefer the PS2 version of Half-Life to the OG
AoE2 without a mouse is horrible and Deus Ex is not very good, the others are good games
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>>12180208
Replace the PlayStation 2 label to Dreamcast label and you would be praising like it's the best thing ever.
I know how the minds of retards like you operate.
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>>12177769
I obsessively played singleplayer Unreal Tournament as a kid on ps2, didnt even know PC gaming was a thing, I thought those learning games on Mac were the only PC games
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>>12177829
You are full of shit. Even back then you would play 1024x768 on pc
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>>12177769
I didn't even know they made a port of Age of Empires 2. The only port that actually ended up being decent was the PS2 version of Red Faction. Every other game in that pic is absolute piss.

>if I don't need a PC
You do though. Pic related, NEVER EVER.
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>>12177773
the console version of NOLF has a few extra stages (they are all short, though), it's a shame we never got those on the PC
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>>12177773
SoF, NOLF, Elite Force and Rune are terrible ports. Red Faction started on PS2 and the rest are very good (haven't played the AOEII port yet)
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>>12177769
Interesting thread. I was planning on building a retro PC but I'll just buy some PS2 games instead.
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>>12178297
it came out on the ps2 first actually, pc version is the port.
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>>12181604
I remember blowing my mind going from MOH frontline on PS2 to MOHAA running at 1024x768, I didn't know games could be so clear to look at.
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>>12182184
Nolf is fine. No idea where it started that it's some terrible port.
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>>12181604
>Even back then you would play 1024x768 on pc
>MOH frontline on PS2 to MOHAA running at 1024x768
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>>12182312
I swear I played it when I tried a bunch of PS2 FPS, but I mixed it with the others and I still need to try it. The rest I mentioned are bad, specially the SoF port.
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The console versions of UT (I played DC but I think it's the same on PS2) have some exclusive levels, one of which is my favourite level for 2-3 players matches. I even took inspiration from it to make a deathmatch level in another FPS They've been ported to PC though.

I think some of the console versions of Q3A still have levels not ported to PC however

The advatange of those versions is that they'd even the play field. On PC none of my friends stood a chance against me, not even if they cooperated against me behind my back.
With a pad I'd still wreck them, but at least they had a chance.
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>>12177773
Some of these are worse.
Others are interesting.
Half-Life has mod support that no one talks about.
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>>12182329
>specially the SoF port.
That's Gold Edition right? What's so bad about it?
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>>12182797
It's been a while since I played it, but for what I can remember, controls were very bad (terrible options and feeling in general), the entire menu interface was weird, it looked and ran terribly. The same devs later did the Elite Force port.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/games/company/43934-pipe-dream-interactive
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>>12182797
SoF gold edition ps2 port is bad because it's better than the dreamcast port. I hate playstation2 pisstation2. hence, it's bad.
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>>12182809
Trying it right now and it's running above, 30 for sure, not solid 60 but pretty close to it. There's even kbm settings in the controls menu, the analog stick controls are a little sticky with the auto aim being aggressive and snappy, but can be disabled.

The flickering is very noticeable, however.

>>12182812
This is the version I'm familiar with being called terrible, mostly because of its 5 minute load times. DC version is also really buggy.
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>>12182814
I can't talk about the DC version since I don't have the ways to try it on real hardware, but I have a PS2 and it felt very bad. Even the most frantic ones like UT and Q3 plays well, it doesn't feel like a lazy job.
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>>12182821
You definitely have to adjust the sensitivity and everything but it's not terrible. Graphics aren't the best, muddy but the detail texture is still there which is cool.
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>>12178541
like >>12179364 said this post is an example of why sony soldiers are unironically mentally ill.

the only thing more pathetic is nintentoddlers defending nintendo's business practices from not owning physical switch games to patent trolling.
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>>12182890
The Xbox is nothing more than a customized PC, but by Microsoft. Similar to Alienware, Ibuypower and Cyberpowerpc pre-built PCs.
It's called a video game console because Microsoft simply restricted it to games only, with a custom Windows dashboard and firmware.
No reason for the Xbox not to be compatible with a mouse and keyboard (like the PS2), except to deceive the fact that, in reality, it's just a PC. (Half-Life, Unreal Tournament, Soldier of Fortune can be playable with m/keyboard on the PS2).
With that in mind there's also no reason why all these games were not be available alongside the Xbox launch lineup, but again, Microsoft needed to distance the Xbox from PC related games to deceive idiots like you.

Again: If I don't need a PC (to play those nice PC games), I certainly don't need an XboxPC either.
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>>12182841
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>>12182980
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>>12182967
you are unironically retarded if you think a game console is a replacement for a PC. this isn't even a console wars thing you either have to be retarded or underaged if you seriously believe this.
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>>12182967
Well said.
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>>12177773
They're great if you ever got to see a pussy in real life.
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>>12177769
>no Halo
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>>12186723
We surpassed Halo.
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>>12182368
there is a pack of dreamcast q3a maps (in quake live, houseofdecay would become a duel mainstay and hiddenfortress a tdm mainstay), most of the ps2 maps come from the eadm map pack but the quake arena arcade maps never appeared on pc i think
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>>12182967
Xbox hardware wouldn't have been able to run those games and Norton at the same time D:
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>>12177773
rune is terrible, deus ex is bad scale down, soldier of fortune is alright, no one lives forever is meh, unreal tournament is inferior to the dc port by a mile, elite force kek, red faction is good, and half life port is good but dc port has blue shift so it loses
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>>12183583
its one guy making these ragebait threads, he's a faggot, but i get to talk about 6th gen and call him gay so its alright
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>>12182320
Bullshit. PCs were already cheap and you would get cracked games on cds. Console kiddies are a bunch of revisionists.
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>>12177769
NOLF 2 was PC exclusive though
And Soldier of Fortune 2 only got ported to Xbox

>>12187095
DC Half-Life got cancelled at last minute and is unfinished
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>>12177769
PS2 didn't get either of the Jedi Knight games, Outcast got ported to Gamecube and Xbox while Academy was only on Xbox
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>>12187182
no its finished, you can download it and see for yourself. its a great port too.
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>>12187192
It's fully playable but it suffers from long loading times
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>>12187195
just like HL2 on launch
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>>12178541
Xbox had Half-Life 2 and Doom 3
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>>12177769
You forgot this one
It has a way lower Metacritic score than PC and Xbox, so I'm not sure if it's that inferior
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>>12187195
its not that bad at all, it feels like home desu

>t. beat blueshift and hl1 first time on a dreamcast
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>>12187203
campaign sucks but it's cool that xbox had rtcwmp
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>>12187186
i thought this was a gamecube exclusive as a kid and was finally happy my cube was gonna be cool until i realized it was a multiport. faggot console. never even got academy.
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>>12187203
Shillmanlives did a pretty good overview of both ports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XWV3MLYuh0

>>12187210
Both ports also had a new opening level
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>>12187216
the campaign doesn't suck any less with it
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>>12187173
In test and comparison >>12182982 by digital foundry, they used a Pentium III 650mhz. The CPU alone was over $300, the console price.

>>12187201
Half life 2 is nearly unplayble and the graphical downgrade are atrocious. If you defend this shit, you are full of shit.
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>>12177773
AoE2 PS2 is yet another shit KCET port.
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>>12177769
Imagine dumpster-diving for the literal worst ports you can find instead of just using a computer, lmao.
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>>12186765
>stupid ai
>nonexistent level design
>bland guns
Nah.
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>>12181618
>scanlines
>on a PC game
You do you, I guess.
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>>12187203
I love this version
>new level is cool and comes with new assets, new cutscene, not lazy at all
>find all the secrets in levels to get permanent upgrades
>most levels were adjusted and were given more secrets
>some levels were cut in two due to memory constrains but in the case of that one stealth level where you have to slip by the guard to get into the trunk it worked for the best

XBOX version is the same but ads a shotgun
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>being proud of playing an inferior version of a game to own the libtards
you do you boo, but just know that at the end of the day, the only one getting played is yourself
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>>12187216
the xbox version was one of the first games to play on XBL. was pretty fun, even if it was a halo 2 waiting room
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>>12180283
thanks OP trollb8er.
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>>12181604
>back then.
brah back then i could play Quake 3 with 1600X1200 on "business" school PCs with no GPU cards. games optimised on Windows98 PCs were peak.
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>>12187203
This is the only version of the game I have ever played
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>>12177769
Appealing to PC babbies is what has killed current gaming.
Inflating budgets to appeal to their hard on for shiny graphics and hurting console games since they have to optimized for so many systems because of their Frankensteins.
Also HL PS2 had extra content for the OG HL which was cool.
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>>12187195
This is actually fixed as a homebrew version which utilizes gdemu and an updated version of WinCE. https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16242

It's much better this way, not as good as PS2 but it's easier to enjoy on DC without the insane load times and smoother performance.
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>>12188048
i agree that games having to be optimized for so many systems killed 6th and 7th gen gaming
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>>12177769
playing aoe on console is diabolical
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>>12188176
Why?
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>>12188219
It's not within the acceptable window of 4chan opinions.
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>>12182982
Damn, which brown hallway looks the best. Can hardly decide.
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>>12188048
You still had lots of games which were designed only for consoles

>>12188060
That's just an excuse



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