>story axes the complex and thought out lore of the series for fanfiction-esque writing, warping factions like the brotherhood into caricatures>roleplaying consists of "do you be an edgelord asshole who kicks puppies and enslaves children or do you be a decent guy">atrocious gunplay outclassed by games from the 90s>literally can't play without mods or you'll crash every 30 minutesIs this whole debate (NV vs 3) spawned solely by the advent of zoomer contrarians who think good games are "reddit"? There is literally nothing to like here. It's a 0/10 RPG. Even as a looter shooter it fails miserably.
>>3428270Both 3 and NV are shit games. Now reply to yourself over and over to keep this terrible thread alive.
>>3428270>"I think this 20 year old game sucks. Please argue about it with me"No.
>>3428279>>"I think this 20 year old game sucks. Please argue about it with me">No.Most based post of the day. I kneel.
>>3428270It's actually fun to play unlike the "originals"If you like 3 you will also like NV just as if you like Morrowind you will also like Skyrim
>>3428270Fallout 3 is solid game. Now, it's not going to popular here specifically, since it is a consolized action RPG, and this is (naturally) a den of hardcore RPG enthusiasts who view such games as beneath them.But in general Fallout 3 get's way too much hate, and often for things which aren't even actual issues the game has.People act like it had no RPG elements or no good quests, when it actually had more quest depth than Fallout 1 and 3 also shares its RPG mechanics with the more popular New Vegas.People criticize it for 'unrealistic' worldbuilding when the game wasn't trying to be realistic.I think Fallout 3 is really fun, it's a got a good atmosphere, a well realized world once you accept that it's supposed to be zany and fantastical. Good quests. It's generally a good game.Is it as good as New Vegas? No. Is it as good as 1 or 2? Depends how much you can tolerate 1990s CRPGS. Personally I prefer Fallout 3 to either 1 or 2, but that's because I'm a zoomer who finds those games too dated.
>>3428270>Is this whole debate (NV vs 3) spawned solely by the advent of zoomer contrarians who think good games are "reddit"?I thought it was the opposite. Zoomers all hate FO3 and worship NV because gay Youtube personalities made videos insisting 3 is shit.
>>3428279spbpit's all so tiresome
>>3428270>>story axes the complex and thought out lore of the series for fanfiction-esque writing, warping factions like the brotherhood into caricaturesIt well it literally was fan fiction. Bethesda loved Fallout 1 and 2 and jumped at the opportunity of telling a Fallout story set in their home region.What would you have preferred Bethesda to have directly handled west coast lore?>>roleplaying consists of "do you be an edgelord asshole who kicks puppies and enslaves children or do you be a decent guy"That was the style of the time. All sorts of games in the 2000s were focused on binary morality.>>atrocious gunplay outclassed by games from the 90sYeah it's not great. But it does kinda aid the RPG side of it. You can't play Fallout 3 as a straight shooter, you need to find a strategy or build to get through the combat.This is done better and more intentionally by games like VtM:B, but still the bad gunplay kinda works for the tone and world Fallout 3 goes for>>literally can't play without mods or you'll crash every 30 minutesYeah it's fucking crazy that Bethesda hasn't bothered getting one of their most famous games to run on modern systems.Like, what the hell, they're just loosing money for no reason.>Is this whole debate (NV vs 3) spawned solely by the advent of zoomer contrarians who think good games are "reddit"?No, it's spawned because people started applying flaws of Bethesda's later Fallout games on to 3.People couldn't accept that Bethesda made a decent Fallout game, so they pretended all of them were shit. (or well, most of you probably always thought it was shit, I'm talking more about the /v/ users here)So there's a counter reaction of people defending the game.
>>3428406If Fallout 3 was more in line with STALKER it would be a good game, traveling the wasteland, exploring dungeons, discovering secrets from the past, that type of game, a post apocalyptic dungeon crawler, it would be a good game, the problem is the fucking quest design and the gunplay, its fucking trash, every quest breaks if you try to solve in a different way.>kill all cannibals ?>you failed the quest, everyone hates you>decide to check a dungeon before talking a a npc ?>you failed the quest, he hates you nowI wish I could pick the map of Fallout 3 and port to Stalker.
>>3428436>stalkerNot a rpg
>>3428436>every quest breaks if you try to solve in a different way.What are you talking about?I can't even think of a quest you can break. Outside of killing the quest givers
>>3428485The quest with the blood drinking cannibals, I saved the kid and killed every single cannibal in the tunnels, failed the quest and every NPC in town turned hostile.
>>3428500Oh, yeah, that one is broken. I forgot about that.the NPC in the town are marked as part of the same faction as the vampires, so even though violence is supposed to be an obvious option, it doesn't work.
>>3428500Did anything else break or did that just really annoy you?
>>3428537Not him but in the second quest of broken steel the scribe keep telling me to look at the map, I had to use cheats to advance the quest
>>3428500The quest works fine in vanilla.Did you use the new unofficial patch?It breaks the quest.
>>3428540Oh!That's why.The unofficial patch probably 'fixed' the problem that the Family and whateverthefuck that town was called not being the same faction in code, by making them the same faction from the get-go.Fuck that patch, honestly. It makes the winterized power armor not infinite durability
>>3428545GOTY vanilla
>>3428549meant for >>3428540
>>3428436Yes, the problem with Bethesda games is their gruel level design and toy gameplay. Most of this could be fixed if they went back to basics and made a normal dialogue driven CRPG with branching quests, but they think that their bad design is innovation and uniqueness when it's mostly just shit.
Oblivion with guns is fun for what it is
>>3428593>normal dialogue driven CRPG
>>3428907Thinking you're smarter than making a Baldur's Gate clone is how you get Bethesda, anon.
>>3429010Bethesda is better than bald guy's gape
i only defend it in the sense it was a pretty solid attempt at a post apoc open world game spun off Oblivion.It's better than 4 but not as good as NV, though NV had the benefit of being an expansion to 3.Still fails to capture the feel of the originals.
>>3429196I'd say FO3 translated FO1 feel pretty well, while NV was lacking
>>3428270I played it recently and had plenty of fun, much more fun than with New Vegas
>>3428272Thanks, I don't way some many people prays an unfinished game where you can't do shit except following others.People are so retards that they fall into>muh diversity factions>muh diversity dialogue choicesDude you still being a cuck that have to follow others instead of doing your own stuff.Also both games are fake open-worlds with constant loading screens and boring shitholes/dungeons.
>>3428270What I don't understand is why they bothered making so many DLC's for this game, they were all like 10 minutes long.
>>3428270Because they are 360 kids that played it as their first rpg of any kind.
>>3430851*There is also basically 100% crossover between liking fallout 3 and defending the star wars prequels. People unfairly tar zoomers with retarded shit the youngest third or so of millennials are about
>>3428270>2008Metal Gear Solid 4, Far Cry 2, Burnout Paradise, Wrath of the Lich King, Dead Space, DMC4I was going to say something about how it came out and was a technical marvel but that would be false. However, if you wanted to explore a 3d world and do sidequests in first person while raising stats it was (and bethesda mostly still is) your only option for that. I will say the sidequests and setting are novel. Characters well done. Good unique music. Not the deepest game but fun for a 12 hour weekend clear I think.
>>3428272No only Shartout 3 is.
>>3428407>3 is shit.Because it is.>>3429038Bethestroon has never made a good game, ever.
>>3430923>However, if you wanted to explore a 3d world and do sidequests in first person while raising stats it was your only option for that.I don't know if younger people can appreciate that, with every game becoming an endless open world at some point. Ocarina of Time's Hyrule in 98 was impressive for a (mostly) 3D world.
>>3428270it was alot of peoples first fallout/bethesda game. mine included. i have been meaning to play 3 again to refresh my memorise but its apparently a bitch to run in modern systems. they should fix that.
>>3431106I had no problems playing it.
>>3431111the steam version? read the review page and alot of people seem to not beable to get it to start. im using windows 10.
>>3431112Yes, steam version on W10. Didn't use mods, don't remember having bugs/crashes
>>3431114good to know. will get the game one of these days. thanks.
fo3 is fo1 in 3dfnv is fo2 in 3dsimple as
>>3431127>fo3 is fo1 in 3dit wishes
>>3431127fo3 is oblivion in post-apocalyptic sci-fi 50sfnv is a fallout-inspired arpg
>>3431141>post-apocalyptic sci-fi 50sSo FO1
>>3431145No.
>>3431147You know it's true.
>>3431152I know it's false because I actually played both games.
>>3431156It's hard to admit.
I think mechanically Fallout 3 is pretty solid. It takes the system from 1 and 2, streamlines it a bit and steals a page from how Deus Ex handled its FPS-RPG skills. Examples being weapon skills affect damage and accuracy and explosives skill affects the delay you have for disabling hostile mines. Arguably, the skill system benefitted from the cutting and merging of certain skills (traps and thrower, first aid and doctor), skills like repair and science were generally far more useful than they were in the isometric games. VATS was a bit of a clever overhaul/implementation of Aimed shots.However, even with its newer skill system, there's no incentive to specialize or vary your builds because of how generous the Skill Point rate, Bobbleheads, Skill Books and the Perk Rate are. Every build will feel exactly the same by the end of the game -- especially with Broken Steel active. Artistically, I don't really care for it. It works, but comparing it to 1 and 2 makes it very apparent that 3 leaned too hard into certain things. I hate all the weapon redesigns from the old games despite a lot of people loving Adamowicz's art. Everything looks shoddily built and everyone lives in tin shacks despite the precedence being set for rebuilding. I don't like how everything is built out of generic assets despite DC having a lot of distinct and varied architecture (This is more of a limitation of 2008, though). In general, I don't feel like Washington DC was depicted in an interesting fashion and all the locations outside DC were completely throwaway and not really 'accurate' to the Virginia/Maryland setting.
>>3428272>>3428279both these posts are based, eat shit op
>>3428270Both 3 and NV are top games.The exploration, the game mechanics etc. It just works. Oblivion is the same with swords. Skyrim fucked it up and everything since then is garbage.
>>3428436>every quest breaks if you try to solve in a different way.Bullshit.You alt+tab out of the game and read along as you play.This way you can't fuck up and always get max xp.https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_3_quests
>>3428436>gunplay is fucking trash>if it was more like stalker it would be goodyou've never played vanilla stalker
>>3428407retard. zero taste.
>>3428270>story axes the complex and thought out lore of the series for fanfiction-esque writing, warping factions like the brotherhood into caricaturesNCR can't beat some larpers in skirts that just throws spears and uses fucking herb and cactus for bullet wound and smelly crackheads outside of vegas but can defeat bunch of highly trained BOS unit in power armor because they just can>roleplaying consists of "do you be an edgelord asshole who kicks puppies and enslaves children or do you be a decent guy"Murderous maniacs that kills burns tortures everyone vs corrupted goverment (what an philosophical debate I wonder which one I should choose hmmmm) >atrocious gunplay outclassed by games from the 90slmao>literally can't play without mods or you'll crash every 30 minutesOh I see you just never played nv Its simple you dumb fuck, people just realized 3 and NV is same but 3 is better because mojave fucking sucks
>>3428270I dont usually defend it cause it has plenty of clear issues and is one of the main culprits in Fallout IP being where it is right now, but its an actual innovative game with a good open world. Its not bad, and most of the haters are shitters who worship e-celebs, like hbomberguy or some other cunt that npcs dickride.
>>3433349Man vanilla ShoC was so kino back in the day.>Shit! Everywhere you look is shit, shit and idiots!
>>3428272this. why people think NV is good? its same shit like F3 oblivion with guns for low brow cretins
NV is let down hard by being basically a F3 expansion.I don't know how anyone can hate f3 then claim NV is a masterpiece.Its good but its incapable of ever being a masterpiece unless its remade practically from scratch in another engine.
>>3434871>I don't know how anyone can hate f3 then claim NV is a masterpiece.i think its zoomer pseudo nostalgia googles, game was shite, dropped it in half after 40 hours
>>3434871>>3434885Nobody's buying it bethestroon.
>>3434671>if you hate it you worship e-celebs!!No, it's just that bethestroon is inherently incapable of creating anything good. And people rightfully shit on it. Shartout 3 was only liked by braindead bethestroons, and nothing about it was innovative whatsoever. Stop being a retard>>3434864See >>3434978.
>>3434412>Oh I see you just never played nv>while uttering a bunch of nonsense with 0 context and pretending xis troon-ass acktually played the game
>>3434871This, if you like one you like the other, it's the same fucking game
>>3437445Well, it's not that simple. Fallout 3 and New Vegas both go for very different tones and styles of world building. And they focus on different aspects of the game.A person could like New Vegas for the writing, realistic worldbuilding, and emphasis on sidequests, and dislike Fallout 3 for it's different writing, more whimsical and silly worldbuilding, and focus on exploration and dungeons.Though I do think for a person to love one strongly and dislike the other strongly, there has to be some mental gymnastics involved. That person is probably stopping themselves from liking one, or convincing themselves that they like the other.
>>3430856Eat my shit grandpa, I'm calling for total boomer death. You're just a bitter misanthropic finger-pointer senile stinky old far who's enraged by his own shitty taste in RPGs and kinos and can't cope that its not 1973 anymore and it never will be again.
>>3430856typo. I meant to call you a FART. Fallout 3 rules, so do tpm, aotc, and rots, you blind tasteless ungrateful faggot
>>3428270>Why does anyone defend this game?it's the same answer every time, it never changesbecause they were children when it came out
>>3439347I played 3 after 4, New Vegas, 2, and even 1, but I still really like 3
>>3428270because exploration > writing
>>3428270Cuz failout 4 is even worse lol
>>3428272Still way better games than 1 and 2 unless you just want to sit through the most boring combat to feel smart
>>3441932here is a (YOU), happy now, feeling satisfied with you post ?
>>3428270The capital wasteland was a fun place to explore, and some of the DLCs were alright, but otherwise it's a pretty average game at best
>>3428270Because it's the best Fallout game
>>3428270Contrarianism.
>>3441932That is like saying the original star wars trilogy was bad because it had the worst lightsaber fights.
>>3444838It was better at the time of its release.Back in the late 2000s RPGs were falling off, writing was generally really bad, and the post-apocalyptic setting had yet to have been popularized in the AAA gaming space.So back then Fallout 3 was one of the best written, most creative world-having, RPG on the market at the time. Especially for consoles.
>>3428270its fun
>>3428270It's fun if you're a newfag to games.I found it fun; it was one of the first few games I ever played.However, I would not dare to play it again because I know it's horrid. You'd have to pay me to play it. Even thinking back, I can't imagine why I had fun. You just shoot shit and it explodes in interesting ways, is the best I can think of.
>>3449663>tldr I'm a jaded elitist over children's larping toys now
>>3449663>fo3>one of the first few games I ever played.I'm too old for this site. Fo3 is great btw
I nuked a whole city 15 minutes into the game. Game of the century
>>3428270FO3 was good when it came out because the fps/arpg+open world formula was novel. The writing is awful like all Bethesda games and there are some truly cringe inducing moments but the gameplay was solid for the time. New Vegas eclipsed it by improving on it in every way, so there's not much reason to revisit FO3 except nostalgia or because you're burnt out on New Vegas but want something similiar.
>>3450051>15 minutesthe vault is longer than that
>child sex slaves>cannibalism>companion is a rapist and serial killer>can purchase 2 slaves>blow up an entire cityCompletely dunks and then shits on your favorite RPG. Boohoo the game gave me the choice to be evil! Cry about it nigger.
>>3428270>gunplayJust say "shooting" you homo
>>3451612And people say new vegas is more realistic with the faggot and the dyke
>>3428279Lol
>>3428270Poos and contrarians. That's it. Anyone saying it's good is doing it for laughs or is a street shitter.
>Why does anyone defend this game?>defendYou mean "like"?
>>3428270
>>3457525I had more fun with fallout 3 than with oot
>>3434871NV leaves a lot to be desiredIts a lot like morrowind, a prototype that should have been followed up on but is now a high water markFallout 3 is dog shit and beneath contempt. No one defending it has played it in 15 years, they're just defending it because they falsely perceive an attack on them because they loved it as children
>>3457525Both were successful transitions to 3D>>3457538Hmm same. I do have tons of nostalgia towards OoT, and it's a more impressive game considering the time it came out
>>3449534>because it had the worst lightsaber fightsUntrue, because Empire and Return have significantly better combat than A New Hope. Personally, I'm not a fan of the spinny Matrix shit the prequels do, there isn't really any weight to it, barring the reactor room fight from Phantom Menace.
>>3457604>Its a lot like morrowind, a prototype that should have been followed up on but is now a high water markmfw this is true and I wish it weren't
>>3428270Fallout 3 'fans' you'll find on 4chan are in it purely for the culture war. Chud game good, tranny game bad. Elsewhere is a different story, some people are just stupid afterall.
>>3457718You said it, not me.
if the games is so bad why does every single NV fag install TTW Ironic to me because i only own NV and cbfd installing Fartout 3
>>3457720>cbfdConker's Bad Fur Day?
>>3428270>edgelord asshole >or pussy putz who correctly gets taken advantage of by others Fixed it for you
>>3428406>But in general Fallout 3 get's way too much hateYeah, this. Its handling of franchise's themes was way better than fans of Black Isle made it out to be back in the day.
>>3428407It was opposite, but a) the general opinions on what is the better game made at least two circles now, and b) now, especially with TV series, it is more "Bethesda lore vs Interplay/Obsidian lore" rather than F3 vs FNV.
>>3428540>>3428545Fug.See, this is why i approach "unofficial patches" very carefully. F2RP, for example, that was being hyped up as a definitive way to play F2, broke or changed all sorts of shit.
>>3428545>Fuck that patch, honestly. It makes the winterized power armor not infinite durabilityKek most of the hate for patches comes from fixing OP shit. Can be seen with patches for oblivion and skyrim too
>>3434978Ironic, since only trannies like NV.
>>3428270>story axes the complex and thought out lore of the series for fanfiction-esque writingExactly what New Vegas does.> warping factions like the brotherhood into caricaturesYou're a retard. The factions in the original games were caricatures as well. The fuck are you talking about?>roleplaying consists of "do you be an edgelord asshole who kicks puppies and enslaves children or do you be a decent guy"Retarded over-simplification that boils down the choices to only 2 specific circumstances in the entire game. Eat shit.>atrocious gunplay outclassed by games from the 90sAt this point I'm wondering if you're trolling, considering the fact that the gunplay is a grade above New Vegas', and all the games from the 90's with "gunplay" comparable to Fallout 3 were not RPG's to begin with, so you're making a false comparison.>literally can't play without mods or you'll crash every 30 minutesNow because of compatibility issues, yes, but before these, New Vegas used to crash more often than Fallout 3.Get fucked, zoomer.
>>3457293Says the shit-eater.
>>3449663>You just shoot shit and it explodes in interesting waysHoly shit, quality bait post. Or you're a crack smoking retard. >It explodes in interesting waysLmao, what the fuck does this even mean? Even if that's your argument, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>3428436That's not the quests breaking, you dumb-shit nigger, that's having consequences for your decisions.>>decide to check a dungeon before talking a a npc ?>>you failed the quest, he hates you nowI don't even know what the fuck this is referring to.
>>3428406The hate fallout 3 gets is not enoughThe world is hostile to engagement, you literally cannot think about how any piece of it connects to any other piece without suspension of disbelief falling apart. Blithe idiotic suit decisionmaking like pushing the timeline forward 1000 years for no reason when the world they'd built would make sense 10 years after the bombs should show you what their priorities were. During oblivion's development bethesda became completely hostile to imagination in general and everything feels like it was based on an idea from a level designer's kid on a take your child to work day
>>3458107It takes place 200 years after the bombs dropped, not 1000. Nice cope-posting, tranny.
>>3458109Stupid cunt
>>3434982You didn't provide much context either, pal.>>3428270>axes the complex and thought out lore of the seriesNigga 1 and 2 had more bullshit changes and inconsistensies between them than 3 ever managed to add, starting with inconsistensy about the passage of time. If anything, 3 quietly removed some of the most retarded shit like talking deathclaws and molerats, and severely limited the psionics in the setting (which was a good thing).>for fanfiction-esque writingReally? What, pray tell, is "the most backwards and remote settlement grows into the continent's mightiest state", if not fanfiction-esque writing? Or pulling Enclave out of nowhere for F2? Or, if you brought New Vegas into this, a whole fucking DLC about a super cool donut steel other courier obsessed with PC for some reason, that is too smart for NCR and for whom Legion is not edgy enough? F3 suffers from the tropes lifted from generic fantasy (because Oblivion with guns), but fanfic? Nah. They found pretty believable reasons for BoS, Enclave and super mutants being in Washington, even recycling some of the Tactics' plot in the process.>warping factions like the brotherhood into caricaturesBrotherhood was pretty straightforward in F1, and while in F3 it is different - it is addressed in-game via the conflict with Outcasts, and especially with Broken Steel quests about the water caravans. It is no more caricature than NCR in NV.>roleplaying consists of "do you be an edgelord asshole who kicks puppies and enslaves children or do you be a decent guy"F3 is guilty of that, but mostly because of the fucked up Karma meter (which is fucked up way more in NV) and badly written dialog lines.And i am not going to argue about the technical problems of a 16 years old game.
>>3458131>Nigga 1 and 2 had more bullshit changes and inconsistensies between them than 3 ever managed to addHuh, I didn't realize it before, but Fallout 3 doesn't get the credit for removing or downplaying the bad decisions and dumb elements Interplay had put into Fallout.Interplay between Fallouts 2, Tactics, and BoS had established>Ghosts>Nu Metal music >Baals energy drink>Talking deathclaws>A sentient AI named fucking 'Skynet' >Psychics >Contemporary pop-culture and meta gags>Faux-ScientologistsInto the setting.All of which 3 decided to ignore.3 brought the series back the normalcy of 1 and the more serious parts of 2, and allowed that to be the standard instead of tonally confused elements of the classic games.
>>3428270because i can mod the shit out of it. bethsda games are gems waiting to be polished by the community.
>>3458177>Fallout 3 doesn't get the credit for removing or downplaying the bad decisions and dumb elements Interplay had put into Fallout.Exactly (then they have introduced the synths, which also don't fit the setting imo, but that's another story). And it isn't only about Interplay which tried desperately to milk Fallout in 2000s, it is also about the questionable, to put it mildly, content introduced by Black Isle in Fallout 2. They did a very good job taming it.>Talking deathclawsNamely them. Interestingly, even Tactics handled it better then F2, since only matriarch was able to communicate, and her ability was nowhere near the one of Goris. They were very smart animals, but still animals.In F3 there were just Enclave-controlled deathclaws, and i think it is for the best.As for the stuff mentioned,>Psychics Psychics were already in F1. Although i didn't think that they belonged to the setting even back then. Neither F1 nor F2 did anything interesting with them anyway.>GhostsI don't mind them as long as they are treated like ghosts in-universe: most people don't believe in them, and they are a rare and clearly supernatural occurance not really tied to gameplay mechanics or worldbuilding. Something like Dunwich building is OK, something like Laura in F2 is less OK but still OK.
>>3458177>>3458221>Contemporary pop-culture and meta gags (including Skynet)Meh. They are fine if tasteful and they aren't really tarnishing the canon while contained (for the record: Pinky and Brain in F2 is neither). Fallout 1 opened with Pulp Fiction reference, of all things.>Faux-ScientologistsI have mixed thoughts about them. On one hand, a powerful cult totally fits the setting. On the other, they were totally buried beneath the weight of being le epic Tom Cruise reference which didn't age well.>Nu Metal music >Baals energy drinkThose stayed in BoS. Not like anyone cared, especially since it was a barely marketed PS2 spinoff of a then-PC-exclusive franchise. I don't think Bethesda even had to specifically say that it isn't canon, since of the people that i know who played Fallout, barely anyone even knew it existed.
>>3458221Nobody ever gave a shit about bos or tactics as canon because they obviously sucked and didn't have bethesda pseudo-AAA marketing to make them stick anyway
Fallout 3 sucks
My biggest problem with FO3 is the enemy level scaling. At max level, enemies are bullet sponges and the only weapons that still perform well are the 2 alien blasters, the special plasma pistol from the UFO that eats up 2 ammo at a time, and to a lesser extent the plasma rifle the android gives you. All other ranged weapons do too little damage. The only alternative is to wear the Chinese stealth suit and mince everyone with Jack the Ripper, which is cheesy and boring.
i started three and i realise there are no good perks in this game.
>>3458114Dumb tranny
>>3458615You are fat
>>3428270I like it.
>>3458177>3 brought the series back the normalcy of 1 and the more serious parts of 2No it didn't
>>3428279Parasocialism is a hell of a thing indeed.
>>3458177>>3458131You guys suck, talking deathclaws should have 100% been kept in the game. Then we could have had race select in games to choose between human, ghoul, deathclaw and robot.
>>3458853>no supermutantGaiiiiii.>robotRobots in Fallout are mere mechanisms. Also fuck synths.
>>3428270>muh new vegas>muh fallout 3fallout ttwyou indians(f3) and you trannies(NV) can kiss my ass
>>3458229>pseudo-AAA marketingWhat's the difference with regular AAA marketing?>>3458229Tactics didn't suck. Nobody still gave a shit about canon though indeed, since it was a spinoff which didn't affect much.
>>3458910I like that it adds depth to the stories of both games. Also, it is my go-to way of playing F3 now, with all of NV's QoL stuff and updated special. Best of both worlds really.
>>3431159kill yourself you illiterate faggot
>>3458913bethesda does cheap development then spends advertising money like real AAA publishers do, I'm calling that practice pseudo-AAA
>>3458910>>3458915based
in what order should i tackle the dlc? doing it in release order sounds boring.
>>3459428>in what order should i tackle the dlc? doing it in release order sounds boring.You should do it in release order
>>3459428In Fallout 3?Doesn't really matter.Something which is fun is to rush doing Operation Anchorage first since it gives you a free suit of t-51 power armor which doesn't need repairing and free power armor training,Mothership Zeta, honestly just play with that turned off. That way you can take the Alien Blaster gun without having to play through a boring DLC.Though maybe play through it once just to see it. There is some neat stuff there.The Pitt and Point Lookout are awesome. Maybe do Point Lookout first since it's a bit easier.
>>3428270Fallout 3 has some great world design and side quests. The exploration is fun and very immersive. It s a very atmospheric game. The main story is indeed the weakest part, namely how Colonel Autumn and the Enclave are handled.
>>3460168President Eden was handed pretty well though, should have been the main villain
>>3462318You're an abomination, kill yourself.
