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Chapter 5 is coming out anytime this year. Are you excited? How will you handle the dry spell of fangames once it comes out?

Are you developing a fangame? Post progress!
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And most importantly, keep the autistic broader discussion in the /v/ threads.
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>>3932352
reminder that ceroba is fat
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>>3932352
finally did the cloud shopkeeper, I am also going to do a 2nd pass on all shopkeeper sprites so they look less bad
gotta still do some more cloud area NPCs, and finalize the enemies (still mostly missing the acts)
for the spire, I have done some of the big events but most of the rooms are still missing, and of course the enemies. I will use that idea someone suggested of the "cat of nine tails" which is an HDMI to RCA adapter, but I could use one more regular enemy in the spire (but a lot of regular robot enemies from earlier will reappear as well)
once the spire is finished, I just have to finalize enemy/boss movesets and acts and set the alt route and I think most of the chapter will be done
I'll go back and also tweak some small things in chapter 1 (mainly fixing dark blob and penceller movesets)
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>>3932365
>(mainly fixing dark blob and penceller movesets)
Very nice, though I'm most looking forward to the new chapter content of course.
>their reaction to you not having enough money
good stuff.
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Responding to the anon in the previous about about this image with DTY Martlet and Cole.
https://files.catbox.moe/le8ckp.png

When the requestor made this request to the drawanon, the intention wasn't supposed to be something lewd, at least I didn't get that from the request.
From what I understand the image itself, or the request, was supposed to delve into something of a cultural adjustment or something like that.
Like for a monster like Martlet, bathing with family in this manner is completely normal to her, and likely other monsters, but not for humans.
Which probably explains Cole's reaction. This isn't normal for him, hence why he's flustered, but he understands Martlet means well, and can't bring himself to tell her the reason.
All in all I think the drawanon captured the tone of the request well, it has a good mix of wholesome and comical.
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Damn that took a sec.
Let's try not to get that far anytime soon, eh?
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>>3932372
But, but... what if we broke our record again?
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>>3932373
That'd be funny, but not being able to post images for multiple days sucked.
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>>3932372
What made the last thread so long? What the fuck was there to talk about for 3000 posts?
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>>3932372
yeah no need to go crazy like that again. A bit of discussion in here isn't bad but we overdid it. Besides, THREAD tomorrow so no reason to go crazy in here right now.

on a fangame related statement. Apparently the autism we were dealing with on people showing up crying about the fangame designs is part of a current trend where there's a lot of people across the fandom bitching about designs. It's ironic really considering undertales designs are just whatever toby scribbled at that moment. I think it's just people who can't accept that they like furry characters or something.

it's not bad to mix up the designs and all, but shine on you crazy fangame devs.

Also on the topic of thread image limits and all, I found several new images including new art of Axis (rare!) but I'll wait until the /v/ to post it.
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>>3932374
I was joking

>What made the last thread so long? What the fuck was there to talk about for 3000 posts?
A mix of actual discussion about the fangames, shitposting and horny posting, as a result, now every major character in Naranja has a fetish associated to them.
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>>3932376
>in a fangame related statement. Apparently the autism we were dealing with on people showing up crying about the fangame designs is part of a current trend where there's a lot of people across the fandom bitching about designs. It's ironic really considering undertales designs are just whatever toby scribbled at that moment. I think it's just people who can't accept that they like furry characters or something.
It was actually a single anon/sharteen rage baiting, I don't think it were multiple people complaining about the designs in UTN, the same anon was saying that all the fangames should include Sans and Gaster, it was obviously a troll.
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>>3932377
>actual discussion about the fangames, shitposting and horny posting
I'm not sure how to feel about every single thing listed here ostensibly being my fault, or at least something I massively contributed to.
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>>3932369
I can't help but respect that despite the fact the request was supposed to be wholesome, the drawfag committed to being consistent with Martlet's canon breast size.
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>>3932379
sorry, what I mean is that it's apparently a trend abroad right now in fangame spaces. Enough that Master sword made a comment on it. It's stupid, and should have been ignored in the first place, but the troll here was likely hopping on that trend. I wont drag this out further for the sake of thread preservation, but it's odd that something like that caught on, and then a troll used that specifically.

regardless the thought itself is dumb and not worth discussing.
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>>3932369
Why exactly does Martlet have such big breasts here? Aren't they meant to be small?
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>>3932387
Martlet's in-game battlesprites have slightly more noticeable curvature around the chest than most other female character's sprites, which a lot of people interpret as meaning that Martlet has comically gigantic breasts canonically.
They aren't actually particularly big in game, but it is a noticeable(ish) departure from other sprites in UTY or even UT not generally depicting female characters with feminine body parts to any specific degree.

(to clarify, no, I don't have any issue whatsoever with Martlet or anyone else having big breasts, I just wanted to point out how it's not necessarily a given that her breasts are actually that massive)
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>>3932376
>>3932382
The real problem with UTY's main cast designs is that they have pretty much the same proportions with only differences in height, Axis is the only one with a unique body type, I can't speak for the fangames in development, but as long as they give the characters distinctive enough body types this shouldn't really be a complaint
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>>3932390
NTA, but I think the only reason UTY catches any major flak for this is due to most people only actually knowing the game for it's main cast, which, to be fair, does definitely look fairly generic if that's *all* you're going off of, but the rest of the NPC designs in UTY are actually decently varied and in-line with UT's art style and design philosophy, it's just that the main cast has something of an over-representation of relatively tame designs.

See, if Martlet just looked like [picrel], this wouldn't have been an issue.
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>>3932387
Long story short, there's official artwork of Martlet that shows she not only has breasts, they're also pretty large. Hence the term hidden buxom.
Canonically Martlet does genuinely have large breasts, which naturally carries over to her Zenith form, which makes her grow in size, hence why she has even bigger breasts.
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>>3932393
Nobody cares about random one off NPCs, a fangame could release with the most bizarre designs for overworld NPCs and basic enemies, but if the main cast looks like generic furries, then people will complain
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>>3932396
>but if the main cast looks like generic furries,
That really only applies to just Ceroba and Martlet, Dalv and Starlo are basically fine.
Okay, maybe Dalv looks a bit too much like an Adventure Time character or something, but he definitely doesn't fit the bill of being a "generic furry".
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>>3932397
the problem with Dalv is that he looks too much like a generic humanoid, this wouldn't be a problem if Martlet, Starlo and Ceroba had different proportions
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>>3932398
At that rate you may as well just change Dalv and leave the rest alone.
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>>3932388
>>3932395
That doesn't explain why her breasts are bigger than Ceroba's. Doesn't Ceroba have a much bigger bust size?
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>>3932401
you still have 3 main characters with the same proportions and nearly the same height, if UTY's cast were bigger maybe this wouldn't be an issue
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>>3932398
dalv is literally just a human with purple skin
I'd have preferred if they kept the idea that he and decibat were the same character and he changed forms, then it kinda would get a pass
starlo is also too humanoid since besides his head he is literally just a human, a tail would fix this (which some depictions of him give him)
and then there is everyone just being tall and lanky in general

>>3932402
she used to in concept art but in game she is flat as a board
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>>3932402
Hate to break it to you buddy, but canonically Ceroba is as flat as a pancake.
This image is pretty accurate when it comes to breast size comparison.
If anything I think the drawfag was being generous with Ceroba here.
https://files.catbox.moe/wwha8r.png
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>>3932380
Are you that anon who is going to draw Zaer with a huge cock?
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>>3932369
Martlet breastfeeding Cole
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>>3932407
>huge cock?
I said I'd give him at least a two-hander, that's not actually that big.
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>>3932409
you said at least, which means that it could potentially be bigger.
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>>3932406
Going off of this logic, Toriel has the build of a literal refrigerator.
As in, she is a rectangular prism with no curvature whatsoever.

As the resident anon who draws Ceroba with huge breasts, I say it is up to us to imagine™ our waifus with the breasts we think they deserve.
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>>3932410
Fair enough on technicality, but I'm not actually into hyper or anything like that, so it's not like I'm gonna be drawing him with some comically large elephant's trunk or something like that.
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>>3932377
People were pent up and sexually frustrated from waiting for a new 4chan post to appear, next time share some uty nsfw through catbox links so normal discussion can reign over the thread again
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>>3932377
>now every major character in Naranja has a fetish associated to them.
I dunno about that, I was just horny-posting over Zaer, I wouldn't say I've permanently associated what I was saying with him.
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>>3932416
I feel like rock polishing will be asociated with Zaer for a long time
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>>3932402
As someone who likes Ceroba as much as anyone else who likes her, she's flat like paper, or has breasts on the smaller side.
And significantly smaller breasts than Martlet's. But you know what, I think that's a good thing, and I think more artists should lean into that.
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>>3932416
Despite the damage you've done your best to cause to that mans reputation. Zaer still just strikes me as a bro who on the pacifist route may be there for Val in the 11th hour. I've trained well in the art of pretending to not see some things.
>>3932404
I think the assertion that the characters need different body types is flawed, not necesarily a bad idea, but it's held up by many as some sort of objective standard when it really isn't. Each character is visually dynamic in other ways, and that aside, that redesign of Starlo is a downgrade all the way around while not fixing any of the proposed issues.
Also
>bird character with goggles
how dreadfully original.

I don't want to drag this out in the /vrpg/, but the way people go about this thing, and then redesign the characters to be no better is strange.

Martlet should have had her tool belt in her sprite though, and that bottom dalv is too visually imposing for what he is.
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>>3932417
Well, I can't say I'd be disappointed to see other anons join in on this idea, but I get the feeling I alone shall carry this torch.

I really do want Zaer to be our resident "rock polishing"/overstim boy, he's just too cute for me to not think about it.
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I've been brainstorming making an Undertale quest for some time, and I've finally started to making some sprite work for it. I'd like any advice on making overworld and especially battle sprites. I've also been thinking of trying to make music for it as well.

To give some context, I've mostly planned it out by taking Undertale characters and making new ones based off certain aspects, actions, or even just the perception some people have of them. Pic rel is the sort of Asgore expy, and I've made him the de-facto leader of the monsters as a seer even though he doesn't make any real commands over them most of the time. I've been hoping the sprite has a similar stature to Asgore but is noticeably less robust. If it isn't obvious, I'd like tips on how to better make his mantis design more apparent.
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>>3932404
Huh, nice redesigns, very cute.
I like Ceroba's, she looks good, I just got one question is all...
What happened to her boots?
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>>3932369
Ah, ok. Now that you bring it up I think I was there when it was originally dropped and I recall it being explained back then too. I understand now.
I really wonder how it got to this point though. At no point when Martlet suggested it or when they were undressing did Cole express reluctance? That would be the most awkward moment I'd say.
>>3932387
I headcanon hers as a nice, medium C size, maybe D.
>>3932395
>cites official artwork
>fails to post it
>>3932411
Toriel's clothing is as conservative as it comes. She might as well be wearing a nun's habit.
>>3932422
Just think about what mantises have. Antennae, a big abdomen, big quad-wings, and large pincers. A lot of it looks hidden away but if you go for more of a shaman aesthetic it might be possible to show more.
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>>3932426
>She might as well be wearing a nun's habit.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean there wouldn't be *any* visible curvature, it'd just be obscured. Toriel has the build of one of those idealized animals from engineering problems, like the perfectly spherical penguin, or rectangular cow.
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>>3932426
Official artwork of Martlet having a hidden buxom.
https://files.catbox.moe/pdwzd3.png
The link is safe by the way.
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>>3932433
That's really not that big.
Like, honestly, that's barely even noticeable to most people.
If we took this artwork and her in-game sprites at face value, she wouldn't have massive tits, she'd be noteworthy for being one of the only female characters to have *any* breasts at all.

I guess in the land of the flat, the barely convex-chested woman is queen.
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>>3932422
>Undertale quest
Could you explain? is this like an AU or a fangame?

>I'd like any advice on making overworld and especially battle sprites. I've also been thinking of trying to make music for it as well.
I'm far from good when it comes to making sprites, but if I had to give you one tip, that would be to look for pixel art tutorials to learn the very basics, then whenever you are drawing an overworld sprite, make sure to use an overworld NPC as reference, either for height, colors or proportions, its much easier to notice what you got wrong in your sprite when you have something from the game to compare, I can't give you too much advice on battle sprites either since I suck at those, but what I said about overworld sprites applies to them too, you need more general art knowledge in order to draw battle sprites.
BTW what software are you using to draw? you can draw pixel art on anything but the most recommended program and the one that I use is Aseprite, which is specialized in making sprites.

>pic rel is the sort of Asgore expy, and I've made him the de-facto leader of the monsters as a seer even though he doesn't make any real commands over them most of the time.
Sounds interesting, like an swap AU except you swap the game's characters with OCs.

>I'd like tips on how to better make his mantis design more apparent.
If he is covered by a cloak then making the mantis theme more noticeable will become harder, you need to focus on the head, like the other anon said give him more insect features. Generally when I'm drawing a new character I look on the internet for cartoony designs of what I'm going to draw (since Undertale has a more cartoon aesthetic) or something that resembles it, like with your mantis character, you could look references of other mantises in fiction for inspiration.
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I hope that one green anon comes by again sometime soon, his work was phenomenal.
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>>3932422
I know people here reddit and all, but I think these two posts have very helpful information on how to make UT styled sprites
https://www.reddit.com/r/UndertaleYellow/comments/1i9nv8c/time_to_dump_all_the_info_i_have_about_spriting/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UndertaleYellow/comments/1mmwd48/perhaps_the_biggest_tutorial_ive_ever_constructed/
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>>3932437
>>3932422
something worth considering is how mega man zero 3 handles its mantis reploid when its in a humanoid form
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megaman/images/b/bc/Deathanz_Mantisk.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100711000329

I know his cowl or whatever doesn't cover him as much, but maybe there's inspiration to take from how it implies the mantis even when you can't see "mantis". Maybe there are protrusions in the robe or just places where it has part of the mantis shape being covered up.
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>>3932439
people here hate reddit*
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>>3932440
he could have two capes with sightly different colors, giving him a mantis wings motif
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3113 posts. You people are insane.
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>>3932365
I don't want to ask "when's it coming out", I know that can be annoying when making something, and up in the air, but even if you don't want to share the number, do you personally have a goal for when you want to get this part done by?
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>>3932436
nta, I'm going to try to explain what the other anon is trying to convey. So essentially Martlet associated with the hidden buxom trope.
Put simply it's when a character has large breasts, but the actual size of their breasts is hidden well by their clothing or other means.
In Martlet's case, her clothing hides how big her breasts actually are, that is until she removes her top, and the huge rack comes out.
I also don't know if it was intentional, or by coincidence, by the top Martlet wears bears a heavy resemblance to a real life top that women use to cover their breasts.
Anyhow without getting into debates, it's a general consensus that Martlet has large breasts, her clothing just hides them surprisingly quite effectively.
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>>3932444
We will attempt to better reign in discussion this time.
>>3932443
that's not a terrible idea. maybe some kind of patterns on the cloak that evoke "mantis" in some kind of way beyond that?

Mantis usually have a narrow center which is something that reploid design also tries to work with.
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>>3932419
>Despite the damage you've done your best to cause to that mans reputation.
I don't think he has damaged his reputation that much, its not that different from the stuff anons said about the Naranja girls.
>Zaer still just strikes me as a bro
I too see Zaer as a bro, but I also think he is cute
>>3932420
That's not the fetish I would have associated to Zaer, also, by looking at his sprite, I just noticed Zaer looks pretty average in his front facing overworld sprites, but he clearly has muscles in his side and battle sprites
>>3932444
We are passionate
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>>3932446
>the top Martlet wears bears a heavy resemblance to a real life top that women use to cover their breasts.
It kinda just looks like a standard tank-top to me, but whatever.
Like I said earlier ITT, I got no problem with people wanting Martlet to have large breasts, it's not like I haven't drawn her like that myself before, I'm just saying it's kind of a stretch to insist that this it's 100% canon when it's really not.
By the same logic you're arguing from, just about any female character could have a deceptively large rack hidden under their clothing.
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>>3932447
>Mantis usually have a narrow center which is something that reploid design also tries to work with.
I think the design he showed should be a bit more skinny, like at the very least remove 2 pixels of wideness.
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>>3932448
>That's not the fetish I would have associated to Zaer, also, by looking at his sprite, I just noticed Zaer looks pretty average in his front facing overworld sprites, but he clearly has muscles in his side and battle sprites
Eh, these threads really only fetishize muscular builds when we're talking about women, muscular men don't really get as much attention here.
So, I decided to get creative, and we've landed on "rock polishing", apparently.
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>>3932451
Maybe, but it could be that his mantis claws are what gives the illusion of the broad shoulders, having them spaced out to hold the cloak up?

maybe just narrowing him would be for the better but I'm just throwing out suggestions for anon if he was really wanting that kind of appearance.
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>>3932453
I wasn't talking about fetishizing his muscles, that was more like a remark, I didn't notice them before.
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>>3932352
>62 posts in 3 hours
Anons, slow down
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>>3932404
>starlo is also too humanoid since besides his head he is literally just a human, a tail would fix this
Starlo is an object head, not an organism based anthro. A tail wouldn’t fit him as he’s not a furry, and he’s the designated “scrimblo” like Sans, Tenna, Spamton, and etc. He’s definitely meant for a different audience (not furries)
>>3932411
There’s nothing to suggest that female monsters canonically have breasts besides Martlet (non canon character btw) due to how they look and the lack of blood in monsters. It’s fine to make Ceroba and Toriel have big tits, but again, it’s not canon that they do. Toriel could literally just be built like a fridge, yes
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>>3932462
>There’s nothing to suggest that female monsters canonically have breasts
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>>3932462
>There’s nothing to suggest that female monsters canonically have breasts
Catty's sprite has cleavage in Undertale.
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>>3932463
>>3932464
God dammit I got played
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>>3932450
nta To be fair, unlike other drawn characters in official artworks, Martlet was actually drawn with visible breasts, so it's not ambiguous when compared to someone like Toriel or Undyne.
This is coming from someone who's argued that Toriel may have smaller breasts despite everyone drawing her with massive milkers.
Martlet happens to be in a unique situation because canonically it's not ambiguous, her having visible breasts is consistent.
Why the devs did this, god knows why, but hey she has breasts, she has rack, and they're very visible.
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>>3932465
Yes, yes you did.
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>>3932462
Witty retorts featuring canonical depictions of honkers aside, my main point is that I feel like posting images of Martlet having some ever-so-slight curvature around her chest and going "look, she's actually wearing a super special kind of shirt that hides her ginormous tits, she canonically has the biggest tits in the underground!" is fucking stupid. Headcanons are fine, do whatever you want on that front, but I'm just really sick of people insisting certain things are true about Martlet based on little-to-no canon evidence.
Like those fuckin' guys in the last thread who tried to seriously argue that Martlet would just give away her breastmilk freely if "it could help someone", it's just fuckin' weird.
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>>3932445
chapter 2 is taking longer than I originally expected, I was hoping I'd have it nearly done by now but I think maybe at most 2 to 3 months at the current pace is when it will be finished, hopefully sooner, no promises though
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>>3932467
Will any fangame dev have the balls to make a character with visible big boobs?
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>>3932467
Yeah, no, she has tits, that's not what I'm arguing about, I'm saying that insisting she has the biggest tits around is kinda weird when the only thing she has is some slight curvature around her chest and very little else.
As another anon and I pointed out just now, there are characters in the original UT with visible breasts, so it's not even like Martlet's the only character to have been depicted in the UT universe, official or otherwise, to have breasts.
Hell, I'd say the shopkeeper's breasts are actually more prominent than Martlet's even, they curve out way more.
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>>3932470
>chapter 2 is taking longer than I originally expected, I was hoping I'd have it nearly done by now but I think maybe at most 2 to 3 months at the current pace is when it will be finished, hopefully sooner, no promises though
NTA but I understand you, sadly, game dev always takes longer than we anticipate.
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>>3932470
>no promises though
of course of course, but thank you for your thoughts on things. I don't have a good grasp on how long devving actually takes other than "a long time" so I was braced to hear a much longer projection than that anyways. I know the threads are a mess, sometimes for better or worse, but fangame updates are cause to celebrate.
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>>3932472
i only have one lady character in my hypothetical fanagame planned out and she's just a shameless Tenna ripoff
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>>3932481
Whats your fangame called/about?
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>>3932462
Noelle in Deltarune has a bust. It's just part of the artstyle for these games to not have very defined women. It's disappointing, but what can you do?
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>>3932482
GELtarune, you would play as a wagecuck in a DR equivalent of McDonald's after someone opened a dark fountain in the lobby. the protagonist would have no idea how to seal it so it would just get bigger and bigger and each chapter would have the protagonist do shit in different regions of the building, like the parking lot or the supply room
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>>3932463
>>3932464
>>3932476
At the end of the day, Martlet canonically has tits, and their visible. Which is a lot more than what can be said about a lot of the other female characters.
Personally I don't think it's inaccurate that Martlet has tits on the bigger side. At the end of the day, that's just my personal opinion.
Whatever the case is, she has curvature, and that's enough for me.
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>>3932485
That sounds really funny
any particular ideas to expand/rework the gameplay?
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>>3932423
The people yearn for roba paws
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>>3932486
Yeah, that's fine, as long as we all agree this is mostly just headcanon aside from the fact that she does have *something* on her chest as opposed to nothing.
Glad we could keep things civil, that's not always a given with these kinds of discussions, somehow.


Also, *they're.
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>>3932423
by removing her boots she looks more monstrous, either that or the spriter is a pawfag
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>>3932489
Don't we all...
https://files.catbox.moe/w24dxl.png
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>>3932491
>by removing her boots she looks more monstrous, either that or the spriter is a pawfag
Eh, joking aside, I'm leaning towards the former, her paws aren't so prominent in the redesigned sprite that I'm willing to actually throw any major accusations around.
I would know.
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>>3932488
I have thought on that for months. closest thing I've had is tension points being a bad thing so you would have to keep it low or find ways to lower it
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>>3932496
>I have thought on that for months. closest thing I've had is tension points being a bad thing so you would have to keep it low or find ways to lower it
That would discourage grazing, unless you have ways to spend your TP mid enemy turn, like by having a dash/parry ability that costs TP to use
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>>3932490
I'm sure you don't mean anything by it, but unless it's warranted, you shouldn't really be going around correcting anons on their grammar on casual posts like this.
That kind of shit vexes people, and can get pretty annoying rather quickly. If you get what they're trying to convey, leave it at that.
Also why did you put the correction in a spoiler box? There's nothing to spoil.
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>>3932504
>Also why did you put the correction in a spoiler box? There's nothing to spoil.
Because I think it's funny.
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>>3932504
Because he was just being cheeky, and the spoiler text was a clear way to indicate that.
>>3932499
>>3932496
it could be a good idea if you implemented it in a way that wasn't "miserable to deal with" which I know is easier said than done. maybe too little tp is bad too much is bad, and so keeping it in the middle is "peak performance" ? you're constantly encouraged to gain and spend it in some way, but you need to make sure there are satisfying and easy to access ways to spend it.

what if there was something you could spend tp on in the middle of an enemies turn?
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>>3932499
i'm aware it's not a very good idea, i'm still brainstorming something unique for the battle system. I do want to have a boss fight where you parry unavoidable attacks to gather tp doe
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>>3932490
The fact Martlet has something, and Ceroba has nothing, means Martlet is bigger than Ceroba either way. So I guess Martlet wins in the end.
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>>3932509
Well I dunno, that other anon made the argument that Martlet was wearing some kind of special shirt that was making her boobs appear smaller, so maybe Ceroba's just got a stronger version of that, and she can just throw off her kimono like Rock Lee's training weights and reveal an even bigger rack without any warning.
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>>3932508
I don't think it's a completely doomed idea personally, it just needs something to make it feel satisfying in gameplay instead of being busywork you know?
>>3932505
I humbly request that you don't follow the compulsion to respond to the person who is just repeatedly saying "Martlet has huge honkers". I like Martlet tiddies as much as the next bird lover but it's 1/3 of the thread already for someone who's just going to respond "canonically she's got big cungaderos".

The answer is always to draw the character with the tiddies you want
I like both big and small tiddies, there's no wrong way to slap em on a roba
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>>3932507
>maybe too little tp is bad too much is bad, and so keeping it in the middle is "peak performance" ? you're constantly encouraged to gain and spend it in some way, but you need to make sure there are satisfying and easy to access ways to spend it.
The game Aeon Must Die, kind of works like that, you have a "heat bar" which is both your mana and your health, each hit increases or decreases your heath, if you take a hit while your heat is full or depleted then you die.

>what if there was something you could spend tp on in the middle of an enemies turn?
That's literally what I said in my post, if the player has like a parry/dash that costs TP that could be useful, another idea would be that by holding X you not only move slower but also your hurtbox becomes smaller (a white circle appear on top of your soul representing the exact size of your hurtbox), this action drains TP at a rate.
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>>3932511
>I humbly request that you don't follow the compulsion to respond to the person who is just repeatedly saying "Martlet has huge honkers".
Fffffffine.

>"canonically she's got big cungaderos".
I don't think Spamton's talking about tits when he says that.
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>>3932513
My apologies, I missed that being mid enemy turn. when you said It I just mentally registered it as something you do before their turn like how deltarune/undertale stuff works.

Never heard of aeon must die but while i'm not that dev anon, I'm gonna go check it out. It sounds like a worthwhile concept then.
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>>3932507
my base idea for it was you'd always be fighting it and scrambling to lower it or reduce the amount of tension the protagonist was getting by sparing enemies or consuming items. one of my favorite parts of DR is using your turns as efficiently as possible and I would want to replicate that by having the player find out what does and doesn't stress out the protagonist and routing each encounter to end as quickly as possble
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>>3932510
From what I understand based on this whole discussion.
The shirt made Martlet's boobs appear smaller, but she still has visible boobs.
Whereas Ceroba has literally nothing. There's nothing to hide. So she really is just kinda flat.
Full disclaimer I'm not trying to pick sides in this breast size debate.
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>>3932515
>Never heard of aeon must die but while i'm not that dev anon, I'm gonna go check it out. It sounds like a worthwhile concept then.
The game is very mid, its a beat em up, but the concept of the health being the mana thing was actually pretty interesting.
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>>3932516
do you have party members in this fangame?
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>>3932517
But you said Ceroba's flat so you must be on Martlet's side.
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>>3932517
Some anons earlier ITT were specifically referring to the "hidden buxom" trope, in which a character who is ordinarily seen without breasts is revealed to actually have large breasts that were just being hidden by their clothing. (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HiddenBuxom)
My argument was that Martlet's just wearing a pretty basic tank-top, and those aren't known for incorporating Gallifreyan space-warping technology to make people's boobs disappear, so I was saying that going strictly off of what we see in-game, she'd have breasts that are just very slightly not-flat, as opposed to having the massive rack the other anons were arguing she had.
Furthermore, if we really want to stick to the trope, it would actually be more fitting for Ceroba to be in possession of large breasts, since her clothing conceals way more of her body than Martlet's does and would therefore fit the trope better by virtue of the "hidden" part.
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>>3932519
hypothetically it would be 2 for a majority of the game, but I know that if I want to lean into turn efficiency I would probably have to use temp party members
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>>3932523
>>3932519
If the main monster companion isn't a girl I shan't be playing
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>>3932524
heres your sexy hmofa lady companion xir
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>>3932525
Sovl...
Regardless, would be cool to hear if you embarked on the journey of actually making all of this. When you first described it I couldn't help but imagine Peppino trying to keep from losing his shit in a dark world.
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>>3932525
Do you have a design for your main character?
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>>3932521
Between the two characters, just from their appearances alone, personally I feel Martlet fits the trope more, simply by the fact we know she has breasts.
Unless Ceroba's clothing has a pocket dimension, and just from what she's wearing, she appears to be very petite.
Again not trying to take sides, but between the two, I can buy that Martlet has bigger breasts than what's initially shown. Whereas with Ceroba I just don't see it.
Everyone's free to have their own opinions, and in my humble opinion the trope fits Martlet more.



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