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Where are the fangames? Post them! Post the ones you're developing NOW
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>>3966368
im making an earthbound inspired game its called undertale
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>>3966368
Friendly reminder to STOP raiding /v/ with your bullshit general slop threads.
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Do you anons think a FEAR style bullet time soul mode would work in a UT fangame?
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>>3966376
I think it could work, I mean doesn’t Starlo have a couple of attacks like that in uty?
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>>3966376
Why FEAR specifically? anyways, I remember reading here a concept for a cyan soul mode which gives you a bullet time, some attacks could only be dodged while in bullet time, like some spinning blades that are so fast they make a full circle, but in slowed time you can actually move between the blades.
UTY also had a bullet time mechanic during the Starlo fight.
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>>3966376
What specifically makes it FEAR styled?
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>>3966371
Holy shit that sounds awesome, what's it about?
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>>3966380
>>3966382
On demand bullet time activated by a button press that runs out and has to recharge.
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>>3966371
that's such a dumbass name, this anon probably lives in someone's basement
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>>3966385
Dating hot animals. I guess there's a couple skeletons in there, but they really aren't important.
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>>3966388
>Ywn have a music jew trapped in your basement to make free soundtracks for you
Why even live?
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>>3966368
If anyone here is taking requests: https://postimg.cc/cKPRM83y
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>>3966387
>>3966387
Thats how bullet time works in most games, by FEAR style bullet time I thought you mean adding exaggerated vfx to everything during slow mo
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>>3966396
This is somehow more niche than tickle torture
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>>3966398
Well is that how it worked in the Starlo fight?
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>>3966401
No, it was automatic on some of his attacks.
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Zenith Martlet before she unbirths Clover
https://files.catbox.moe/wkmqze.jpg
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3966373
Thats hilarious. You really are just shitposting in threads across the site. Changing one of your words isn't going to make it any less embarrassing anon.
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>>3966403
Well what I'm talking about is on demand bullet time. You could use it even during attacks that aren't impossible to dodge normally to make them easier, but you have to balance the risk of not having any slowmo meter left when you need it.
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Hey DRYanon, what was the thing flying out of your pocket when you enter the chapter 2 dark world? I hope that plot point wasn't dropped...
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>>3966408
Honestly a bullet time soul would be a way to make some bullshit attack patterns actually fun. Maybe not full on sans fangame nonsense, but still something a bit absurd.
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Reposting this for the new thread, in case anyone missed it last time: https://files.catbox.moe/ndpdmt.png
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>>3966376
Ah, yes, what if the Pointman fell into the underground?
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>>3966411
that was moved to a later chapter
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>>3966426
He'd be much better off, and technically I still think would be working well within his job description.

Anyways I was mainly just trying to think of a whole new set of soul modes for my fangame.
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>>3966425
I still think you should give her abs, but the toned belly looks nice either way.
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>>3966430
>He'd be much better off, and technically I still think would be working well within his job description.
Yeah, probably.
God, the rest of those games shouldn't have been about Alma...
Sigh.
>Anyways I was mainly just trying to think of a whole new set of soul modes for my fangame.
It's not a bad idea for an ability actually.
Does it represent a new soul trait, or is it something else?
If it's a trait, what trait is it, "accuracy" or something?
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>>3966431
Well, I could try that fairly soon.
I've once again come up with an idea for drawing her against my own will, one that I should be able to do tonight, and it'll include a decent view of her tummy.
It's not another tickling pic by the way, just to clarify. I had to really fight myself not to make that last image of her like that, but I resisted.
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>>3966432
I've been thinking of the ability first, color second, and trait last. So far I've got tenacity and loyalty, maybe I could make this one perception or precision.
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Also reposting this because I am evil: https://files.catbox.moe/9xafh2.png
I tried to make the first panel usable as a joke image by itself, so something good would come out of it for anyone not as weird as I am, but I don't think it worked too well.
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>>3966438
>tenacity and loyalty
What do those do?
>perception or precision
I think precision probably fits better, though if you're giving this trait a similar in-universe explanation to the Pointman's abilities, maybe perception is the way to go, since he had more going on than *just* the bullet time.
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>>3966436
>I've once again come up with an idea for drawing her against my own will, one that I should be able to do tonight, and it'll include a decent view of her tummy.
Man, she's got you under her spell, whatever she's doing to your brain seem to be pretty strong.
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>>3966438
isn't tenacity too similar to perseverance and determination? Loyalty is cool tho, I remember discussing with some anons the loyalty soul, it was meant to be the protagonist for that "Undergear" fangame.
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>>3966441
I think having senses so good its like time is slowing down counts as perception. But maybe if that's no good then wit, since I would define wit as fast thinking, and we all know that brevity is the soul of wit.

Maybe perception would be better as a different soul mode.
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>>3966439
I mean, its kinda funny in a "so obvious that this will end badly" kind of way, you just don't expect what actually happens next.
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>>3966428
Hmm... Also does the secret boss armor do anything yet? Or is it like a shadow mantle . Glad to see you that you made chowder turn into a dw item, but does the red letter turn into anything? I thought it would be the original second criminal...
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>>3966445
I'd say tenacity is closer to bravery than perseverance. Tenacity is you telling the guy who's a foot taller than you and benches twice your body weight to go fuck himself. Its the ability to enact your will, no matter what may be in your way.

A person with perseverance would tolerate whatever that huge guy is putting him through but refuse to back down. Perseverance is withstanding hardship. Its more about taking damage than giving it out.

And even then I'd say bravery is still distinct in that a brave person faces their fears, while a tenacious person charges in as though they don't have any. I'll even give an example. You remember when Josuke beat the shit out of Rohan, despite knowing that seeing Rohan's stand would put him under its effect? That's tenacity. You remember when Josuke stepped into that room to save Rohan, even though Rohan told him entering meant certain death? That's bravery.
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>>3966442
>Man, she's got you under her spell, whatever she's doing to your brain seem to be pretty strong.
She reawakened feelings in me that I'd managed to keep suppressed for a long while, and even now that I've gotten that under control again, I still can't stop coming up with ideas for her, and thinking about her in general.
I think it might just be from how relatively simple her design is, I can consistently draw her form fairly quickly, to the extent that I don't even need as many references whenever I draw her, so it's hard to resist drawing her when it's so seemingly easy.
I had that previous image I did of her visualized before I even started it, I was practically just trying to recreate what I had seen in my head.
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>>3966448
Eh, that could work.
A lot of these traits would have at least a little overlap, but as long as you can differentiate them even slightly, it should be fine enough.
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>>3966455
Well, on the bright side you seem to be getting a lot of drawing practice seeing how quickly you are making these drawings, at the very least your feelings for her will improve your drawing speed.
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>>3966453
eh, the 6/7 AHHH traits shown in Undertale already cover a wide array of virtues/qualities, so I guess its to be expected to have traits that are very similar once you expand the traits.
Your description of tenacity reminds me of a chart I saw saying that audacity/tenacity was the "negative" version of Bravery, doing something dangerous despite your fear is brave, doing something dangerous fearlessly is stupid.
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>>3966458
Yeah, I just wish I didn't have any other things to deal with so I could draw her more.
I thought about some of the ideas I had for her, and some of the things Naranjadev said about her in the previous thread, and that resulted in me conceptualizing and planning out an entire sequence with her that I really wanna get to drawing, but I can't get to it quite yet.
What's more astonishing is that the ideas are all basically entirely vanilla too.
Except for some unprotected h*ndholding.
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>>3966462
>the 6/7
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>>3966432
>>3966408
A good way to think about it should be "what soul trait would Max Payne have" and thats probably the best one to give the bullet time power.
Perseverance? Tenacity?
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>>3966466
Depression, it makes everything seem slower
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>>3966466
>what soul trait would Max Payne have
Suicidal ideation.
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>>3966451
>Also does the secret boss armor do anything yet?
the effect is bugged atm, sorry for that. it is being fixed in the patch
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>>3966464
I was about to post something I imagined doing with Luzma, but maybe I shouldn't give you more ideas when you already have too many
>h*ndholding
How degenerate
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>>3966469
>>3966468
I think he acquired those things as mid life "gifts" rather than as an aspect of his soul. If anything his sould highlights how he drives himself though hordes of enemies in spite of that.
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>>3966462
That fits since the character associated with the trait is best described as charging headlong into his problems with no consideration for danger. Literally, the soul mode lets you charge forward to smash through bullets face first.
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>>3966476
Could say justice since revenge is restorative justice
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>>3966475
>I was about to post something I imagined doing with Luzma, but maybe I shouldn't give you more ideas when you already have too many
Pile's already so big, what difference does it make?
Shoot.
>How degenerate
Don't worry, it'll be post-marital h*ndholding.
It'll be a thing, just give me a bit.
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Gonna repost this for those that might have missed it from the previous thread. Tweaked and added to the latest chapter of the zenmart in pacifist timeline story based on feedback.

https://rentry.org/iui8oige
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>>3966479
Im not against it, though giving the yellow soul ANOTHER power is rough.
Then again, in uty, things slowed down to bullet time when the soul was about to spin around in the roba fight
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>>3966478
>That fits since the character associated with the trait is best described as charging headlong into his problems with no consideration for danger. Literally, the soul mode lets you charge forward to smash through bullets face first.
Funnily enough, that's the soul gimmick you get in Naranja's prototype
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>>3966487
I'm just saying Max Payne may already map over an existing trait if he went into UT.
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>>3966486
Gonna give it a read when I get some proper free time, but did you see what I said about grouping the chapters?
You don't have to by any means, but that rentry starts mid chapter, so it may be worthwhile to just add the beginning of that to the previous rentry, and start the new one on the newest chapter.
If not thats no problem, but I wanted to throw it out there
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>>3966488
No, this one is different. It involves a long charge up and a lot of high speed lateral movement since it smashes through the side of the battle box. Basically turns it into a scrolling shooter, minus the shooting and its usage is just as much about you playing chicken with incoming bullets as it is about you smashing through the appropriately colored ones.
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>>3966482
>Shoot.
Well, my idea is catching Luzma while she's singing Bring Me To Life (or any other song used in AMVs) she stops for a second after seeing you but keeps singing anyways, then you join her, which makes it really hard for Luzma to contain her laughter, what happens next is up to you.
>it'll be post-marital h*ndholding.
WTF! What is wrong with you?
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>>3966492
You know, I had an Idea for an "upgraded" version of the soul punch you use in the prototype, it also involves charging up and hitting the battle box, but once you hit one of the sides you push the battle box in that direction, allowing you to avoid some otherwise undodgable attacks
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>>3966495
>Well, my idea is catching Luzma while she's singing Bring Me To Life (or any other song used in AMVs) she stops for a second after seeing you but keeps singing anyways, then you join her, which makes it really hard for Luzma to contain her laughter, what happens next is up to you.
That is pretty good.
I'll see what I can do at some point, but that sounds like it might be a bit long.
>WTF! What is wrong with you?
Lots.
I also wanted to draw Luzma and an anon c*ddling at some point.
The depths of my depravity knows no bounds.
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>>3966491
Yeah from here on out it'll get properly separated when new chapters are written. I was just in the awkward situation that the last place I left off and shared didn't feel like a good place to end a chapter but was too late to do so. This rentry aims to finish off that part and an entirely new chapter. Once I've finalized everything I'll make a proper rentry for librarby anon and eventually post this onto ao3 bit by bit.
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>>3966498
Ok, I want to discuss some serious spoilers for my game because it is really relevant to this discussion. Do you have like a gamejolt I could speak to you privately on?
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>>3966498
Thats super rad
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>>3966508
>Ok, I want to discuss some serious spoilers for my game because it is really relevant to this discussion.
Uh, I wasn't expecting things to go this way but ok.
>Do you have like a gamejolt I could speak to you privately on?
If you are Oldentale anon, I'm already following your account on gamejolt.
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>>3966512
Wait, are you that rando that followed me six months ago?
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>>3966512
I don't seem to be able to send you a friend request. You have your account set to private or something? Maybe you could try friending me?
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>>3966512
>>3966515
Ok, I managed to send a request. For some reason the friend request button is missing on ff mobile.
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>>3966514
Maybe, I don't remember when I started following you.

>>3966515
>>3966518
I accepted your friend request.
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Are there any more doodles like from last thread?
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Since kanako is a fox (carnivore) and noelle is a deer (herbivore), how would they feel during a double date between cole & kanako and kris & noelle?
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>>3966528
Noelle and Kanako actually know each other from Deviantart and instantly recognize each other by power level alone. Then they have to play dumb to not make the date weird.

Noelle definitely eats meat though. And she thinks about how unnatural it is while she does it.
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>>3966528
The same way Noelle feels around Susie, but less freaky
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Hey, Oldentale anon, I have a question for you, sort of.
At one point in a thread, you (I believe) said Oldentale was at least in part based around the idea of picking apart and analyzing the idea of predetermined endings in storytelling, and the way you talked about it made me make some comparisons to other pieces of media with certain similarities.
One in particular, which I indirectly mentioned at the time, keeps coming to mind when I think about Oldentale, and what little I know of it thus far, and I'm curious as to whether or not you'd say my connecting of the two is unfounded.
The specific piece of text to which I am referring is attached to this post, I would very curious to hear if it actually has anything in common with your story's themes in any way, from your perspective.
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>>3966527
These were from the Martlet drawanon in the last thread.
The first two images are of Zenith Martlet, and the last image is of Martlet and bird clover as an egg.

https://files.catbox.moe/qj6z3g.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0av6hj.png
https://files.catbox.moe/q8euev.png
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>>3966538
I mean the black and white ones
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reading some of ye threads of olde, the waifu warring was a different beast. The shitposts were just of a different breed.
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>>3966545
I'd like to think we've matured since then.
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>>3966546
There's a lot of golden content to be found in those threads but yes I'd say we've learned a measure of restraint.
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>>3966529
>Noelle definitely eats meat though. And she thinks about how unnatural it is while she does it.
Herbivores also eat Meat sometimes when it's available, through
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>>3966546
Not really, the worst cases simply moved on to other medias
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>>3966556
then we've matured through process of elimination.
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>>3966545
>Cerobros
Kek
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>>3966527
We got this, does it count?
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>>3966560
I saw the "what are the requirements" when working and I think sadly Luzma may not be granted a permit. Then again due to tax evasive tendencies she may have trouble applying.
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>>3966562
She's a free monster, she can engage in sexual relations with consenting humans if she wants.
Matter of fact, give me a bit.
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>>3966562
>>3966563
What is the punishment for having interspecies sex without a license?
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>>3966564
What is the punishment for living free?
What's the punishment for feeling the rain on your skin?
What's the punishment for being alive?
There is no price too steep, no risk too great.
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>>3966554
Yeah, but she still fetishes the idea of it being wrong.
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>>3966486
I've got the rentry open, and I'm looking forward to reading. I saw the post in the last thread but I haven't been able to actually start yet. Last few days have been really busy.
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>>3966564
Prison (co-gender and species. 2X1X is a very progressive year)
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>>3966565
That's cool an all, but I don't think the judge will accept that once Luzma gets charged for burning her lover to death after going supernova.
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>>3966571
A real monster fucker would tank it.
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>>3966570
>2X1X is a very progressive year
Same century as Mass Effect, in fact.
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>>3966572
That's why humans need a permit to fuck monsters. That and because humans much more dangerous to monsters than monsters are to humans, even in bed.
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>>3966570
Do they get sent to a special prison for humans/monsters that had sex without their license?
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>>3966575
So really, Luzma wouldn't have anything to worry about on her end.
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>>3966572
That human clearly didn't have a monster fucker license then.
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>>3966527
Someone posted a Racter over on Noz
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>>3966577
That's assuming she didn't fuck someone who's just as much of a free spirit as her and also doesn't have a license. Imagine her human bf almost extinguishing her with his cum.
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>>3966581
Then you just get a beam clash.
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>>3966580
Was it you?
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>>3966580
Noz?
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>>3966584
Maybe :)
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>>3966583
You can't extinguish a super nova with cum
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>>3966583
Not a beam clash, more like a mutual kill. He shot what's mostly water into an incredibly vital and sensitive area of her body, she burned him all over.

They probably tell stories about stuff like this when doing PSAs about the dangers of unsafe sex at monster highschools.
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>>3966587
And a super nova can't overcum the power of raw human determination.
So, they cancel out, and all is good.
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>>3966589
>He shot what's mostly water into an incredibly vital and sensitive area of her body
Leidenfrost effect, it's fine.
Plus, unintended damage isn't as powerful, so it wouldn't hurt as much if he didn't want it to.
>she burned him all over.
He's human, he can tank it. Just bring some healing items.
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>>3966589
Wait, so you can't get your fire gf pregnant then?
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>>3966585
Noz.rip the website posted at the end of the last thread
You post a doodle and get a doodle back and there's a gallery
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>>3966593
You can, you just have to be careful. Or you can just wing it if you're built different.
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The threads seem to have decided that Luzma's breast milk would be some kind of alcohol, but I've gotta ask, would her other "fluids" be anything unusual, something else fire-related?
Just curious.
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>>3966599
Flammable oils (not petroleum based)
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>>3966599
Her breast milk is alcohol because baby fire elementals need something flammable that can easily be digested, I don't know what her saliva could be, unless its a type of alcohol too or other flammable substance meant to dissolve things, but that isn't sexy.
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>>3966602
Hmmmm...
Well, some oils are safe for consumption.
>>3966603
>I don't know what her saliva could be, unless its a type of alcohol too or other flammable substance meant to dissolve things, but that isn't sexy.
As if the idea of her saliva being alcoholic so you can get drunk off of being french-kissed by her isn't the sexiest thing imaginable.
Just imagine, her long, warm tongue, dominating your mouth so hard you can barely breathe, and when she pulls it out, you're practically already drunk.
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>>3966603
Its just more fire.
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Also someone else posted this (on Noz) while I was at work
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>>3966607
is that femyogurt?
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>>3966604
>As if the idea of her saliva being alcoholic so you can get drunk off of being french-kissed by her isn't the sexiest thing imaginable.
The idea of her saliva being alcoholic is hot, the part that isn't sexy is the dissolving one, unless its as dissolving as human saliva.
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>>3966608
Maybe?
The jacket is slim but he's still pretty guy shaped
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>>3966609
>the part that isn't sexy is the dissolving one, unless its as dissolving as human saliva.
Oh, that.
Well, I'd say it's probably fine, I don't know how much of the human body is susceptible to being dissolved by anything resembling normal alcohol.
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>>3966610
I thought those were tits, are those stitch lines?
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>>3966593
YOU WOULDN'T EVEN GET TO TOUCH HER BELLY WHY EVEN BOTHER AT THAT POINT
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>>3966616
You ask her to cool down, then touch her belly. Fire magic can be whatever temperature you want it to be.
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I'm gonna try and have another Luzma image out before I go to sleep tonight, I had an idea.
Hopefully I'll have time to finish it *and* get some work done on that Martlet image, but who knows, Luzma's been hijacking my brain lately.
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>>3966617
I don't know what I'd do without you guys and your genius ideas
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>>3966615
I think it's supposed to be the evil dude coat from kingdom hearts, it's got like side panels and stuff
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>>3966620
NTA, but you mean the Organization XIII coat?
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>>3966621
The one that blond sora wears sometimes
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>>3966622
Yes, Roxas was part of Organization XIII.
That coat's actually been worn by a ton of people, including people who were never actually Nobodies, so I'm not sure where it comes from.
That coat's so sick, I've wanted one for years but I've never found a good one.
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>>3966623
can you post a picture, I want to see just how bad I was misinterpreting the image
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I want to get better sleep so I can have the energy to write about autism after work. I continue to try and dream about the scrimblos, but the closest I've come now is a dream of running from undyne as she tried to hunt me down. Even now I'm thinking, maybe I can lay down early, think about being blanketed by feathers until I fall asleep, and it makes me want to lay down. Ever since that Anon mentioned the overwhelming bird warmth, I think of that when I get my blankets out of the dryer.
Inevitably though, the subsequent dream will be something stupid and probably without these lovely characters.
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>>3966627
Here.
You might not be too far off actually, though the other image is in white, making it hard to tell.
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>>3966628
>Ever since that Anon mentioned the overwhelming bird warmth, I think of that when I get my blankets out of the dryer.
I'm glad my idea was appealing to you, anon.
I myself think of that green with Ceroba petting the anon's head, or that shorter one with Reynault holding the anon's hand, whenever I feel the need for such things.
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Playing Deltarune Yellow was certainly an experience. Most fangames have 30 minutes or an hour of content, maybe two zones - this one was significantly larger. The way both realities were merged was cool, but it's sad the Snowdin NPCs aren't there.
The intro sequence of Undertale Naranja and the tutorial fight against ourselves was dope too.
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>>3966629
Oh so the jacket just has tiddies, guess I wasn't misreading it
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>>3966630
I'm glad those thoughts do you well. Imagining bird as I'm wrapped in the blanket is powerful, but I just made myself a bit sad with the thought that eventually the blanket cools off and there is no bird to be found. For a brief time however it's nice.
Maybe I should try sleeping early one more night, see if I can do something with these feelings of DESPERATE LONGING this weekend and get back to writing.
I find that some of the fantasies I'm running into are deranged not for their content, but that they are a fantasy at all.
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>>3966635
>Maybe I should try sleeping early one more night, see if I can do something with these feelings of DESPERATE LONGING this weekend and get back to writing.
I hope you find the time to do what you want to do anon.
>I find that some of the fantasies I'm running into are deranged not for their content, but that they are a fantasy at all.
What sorts of fantasies, if you don't mind my asking?
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>>3966607
That's a pretty cute drawing.
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>>3966631
if you count honeydew resort as snowdin then at least one npc shows up in chapter two.

But yeah it's still mindblowing to me the actual content that has come from local devs here.DRY chapter 2 was really nice even if the puzzles made me feel a bit retarded.Mostly I just wasn't expecting then to throw punches like that, but I'll admit it felt good to solve them.
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>>3966640
>DRY chapter 2 was really nice even if the puzzles made me feel a bit retarded
I actually really liked this. It's pretty rare for RPG overworld puzzles to make me think. Off partially stands out to me as a memorable game because of how obtuse some of its puzzles were, and I got similar vibes with DRY's Archives.
Even if some players may get stuck, there's still an alternative way (maybe two if I'm understanding right) to get into the Spire that doesn't involve them at all. That's good design, though I think it could be made more clear that alternatives exist.
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>>3966644
oh I'm definitely not upset by it, it just blindsided me after chapter 1 not really having anything like it.
Overall I liked the puzzles, I just tried every solution except the right one on the mirror one.

I will say, I wish there were more water gun refill spots in the big mirror room. Trying to visually test out solutions was a bit frustrating having to refill every time I turned the mirror to one spot, and then realized I needed it in the previous position, thus having to run across the room to refill. Ultimately, the puzzles were satisfying to complete, and I walked away from the chapter feeling good, and wishing there was more active conversation about what was in it.
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Honestly, I think that BunBun should've turned to stone if you end the fight violently on a normal route, similar in execution to the idea that was discussed a long time ago.
Currently, sparing or fighting doesn't have a difference, it would be good if her decision to restrain herself from her purpose to carry some real weight, and since she wasn't shown any kindness, in her pov, it would be better for her to just simply fade away into obscurity, not even considering to turn herself in.
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>What sorts of fantasies, if you don't mind my asking?
sick and twisted, deranged thoughts such as
Coming home to see Martlet tried to cook you something, even though she failed, and after the day you had you get teary eyed. She thinks you're upset at her and frets over it so you hug her, just kind of swaying from side to side with her in your arms thanking her from the bottom of your heart.

or

Calling your pain in the ass friend Chujin, who's clearly far too busy to be dealing with whatever nonsense you've got going on right now. Strangely he doesn't rush you off the phone, and he even almost sounds... concerned. You get back in your car after talking to your friend, feeling a little better even if you didn't talk about anything important.


And sometimes even

being there for Martlet as she is hit with the feelings she gets remembering that day she watched clover die. Preferably in a world where she got the kid back one day, but regardless just being able to share that burden with her as a fellow fuck up.
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>>3966648
does she turn herself in regardless of how you handle the fight? I thought her turning herself in must have been the super special cool way things turned out by doing it non violently.
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>>3966628
Ah, I see you have scrimblo nightmares as well. My only advice is to roll with it. Try to befriend Undyne by aping shonen tropes next time you see her. Will she really want to kill you if you become her Piccolo or Polnareff?
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>>3966655
hopefully if i start getting more full nights of sleep, the dreams will get more vivid more often and I can have the control to try rolling with it. Usually my nightmares don't have scrimblos in them, so that one was just memorable for her presence. I had another once where Zartlet wanted to kill me for something I didn't do, and the dream was spent trying to convince her I was innocent, while saving both of us from the situation we were stuck in. My psyche needs to relax and go with the scrimblo flow. I was probably convinced in the dream that she wouldn't believe me, so thus she didn't believe me. If I instead dreamt from the mindset of "she'll believe me if I tell her the truth" then I would have had a cool dream about teaming up with zartlet.
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>>3966656
You just need to spend time thinking of a way to convince her that you think would work. Also it only occurs to me now, but that creepy anomalous murder house you were trapped in really reminds me of Nanquest.
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>>3966653
>>3966648
there is something specific I have planned for darkner petrification in the future so it won't be happening now
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>>3966653
Yeah, unfortunately in the normal route all outcomes are the same which is kinda lame. I can kinda see why he did it the way he did, but I think he can still add the former, it would be super cool...
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>>3966657
ah you remember that! I'll probably take the time to read nanquest when I catch up with sleep. all of the little mentions of it have got my curiosity going, but I've been caught in a loop of "too tired to write, feel bad for not writing, go to sleep, not get enough sleep, too tired to write, feel bad for-" so picking something new up feels like something I haven't quite earned just yet.

But there's merit in the thought. Even at my worst, I think Martlet is someone who be willing to stand by my side if I was trying my best to do what's right. Maybe with enough effort, I can even trick my mind into believing that Martlet would show up in my nightmares to help me.
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>>3966647
>oh I'm definitely not upset by it, it just blindsided me after chapter 1 not really having anything like it.
Yeah, I fully agree. I consider it a good thing, too.

>I will say, I wish there were more water gun refill spots in the big mirror room.
I do agree with that more conveniences could have been offered for such complex puzzles. Besides what you said, I also remember the constant back and forth in the block pushing room making it harder to memorise the precise spaces where the blocks had to be pushed. Since there's already a lot to juggle in your head, I don't believe reducing some back and forth would be dumbing it down.

I do hope that future chapters keep this trend going. I've heard DRY anon admit he may have "went too hard," but honestly I totally welcome it. RPG puzzles too often feel more like busywork than something engaging, and I appreciate the effort to buck the trend.
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>>3966661
Ah rip, it's still a good scene though.
>>3966658
I can completely understand that, but it may be worth considering at least changing the dialogue somewhat for if it's not a peaceful win. The dialogue for that fight feels like it's tailor made for a peaceful win.
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>>3966663
>I do hope that future chapters keep this trend going.
for sure. now that I know Dryanon is capable of hitting me with puzzles like that, I'm ready for it. but I'd like some mid puzzle convenience. I think on the block puzzles, it was intentional to force you to work on the memorization, but I still had to switch back and forth more times that I liked.

The mirror puzzle felt like the perfect difficulty level for me to feel smarter than I actually am once it was cleared.
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>>3966451
>Glad to see you that you made chowder turn into a dw item
Does it? I don't recall anything out of the ordinary coming up when I brought the chowder into chapter 2.
Same with the letter, if that answers your question.
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>>3966647
>>3966663
>>3966668
I'll add one more water refill spot in that room then
also everyone complaining about memorization in the tile puzzle and the memory puzzle remind me of the basketball game where I always get it first try and everyone else suffered, I might try to ask for more second opinions when designing some puzzles to see if they don't go too hard, I want people to figure them out on their own instead of just looking it up because they got frustrated
also I was thinking if I should change the hint on that last one from "mirrored" to "flipped", or figure out a different wording for it
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>>3966648
honestly I was thinking turning herself in was kinda lame, since that's the same result as capturing her. She should become an item in he violent or pacifist routes. Either a small plush toy with a bat charm hanging off of it, or a small toy bat with a plush toy charm hanging off of it. Both go in armor slots and have special effects in battle. The toy plush, from the pacifist route, heals Kanako a limited number of times per dark world. The toy bat boosts her special attack when used.
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>>3966673
the extra water spot would probably help a lot honestly.
The memorization wasn't too bad, until I got to the last one. I kept moving pieces and then realizing that I had moved it one square to the wrong spot. I started having Kanako stand in the spot I thought I needed to move the thing to, because memorizing it while mirroring it, (or is it mirrored AND flipped?) made me start losing track.
I think the problem is that my visual memory is decent until I have to move cole and the stuff falls off the screen partially, so I move it slightly in my mind or something stupid like that.

also on the batting minigame, making it to 46 and not 50 swings, I can't help but feel like I could have missed an item. when I replay it, god damnit I may try for 50 again
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>>3966658
>there is something specific I have planned for darkner petrification in the future so it won't be happening now
Noooooooo. Damn...
Guess you didn't see BunBun the same way as I did... She ended up much less important that I thought she could be, kinda poetic, ah well, but I have faith in you DRYanon. I hope whatever you are cooking turns out to be great! Although I kinda get how it feels to be a mikefag rn.
Atleast the discussion we had about her inspired you in other things
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>>3966673
>also I was thinking if I should change the hint on that last one from "mirrored" to "flipped", or figure out a different wording for it
I agree that the wording could be changed, but I'm also blanking on what to change it to. Maybe "horizontally flipped"? Although I'm pretty sure the solution was flipped across the origin rather than just the X axis, so maybe that wouldn't work in this case.

I should also reiterate that offering alternatives to these roadblocks at all is honestly enough justification to leave them alone, in my opinion. If I were to suggest any change, it would be to more explicitly hint that the date you get after beating the secret boss is the Archives password. I didn't piece two and two together until I already finished the other puzzles.
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>>3966674
I'll say though this is only if DRYanon doesn't do more with her in the future. If he gives her nice resolution and happy ending later on in the pacifist route, then her somewhat anticlimactic fight ending will be worth it
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>>3966672
In previous version chowder didn't turn into anything upon entering the dark world, along with the red letter.
In 0.2 now it turns into a party heal +100 and 50% TP consumable.

Due to chowder not turning off into anything in the previous versions, I wondered that the red letter turns into something as well. I theorized that it was the thing that fell out of Cole's pocket and would later turn into a second criminal, as their crimes were listed as "Blackmail, Conspiracy" or smth like that. But the second criminal got changed in the new version. Wonder who would it have been, it also looked kinda paper themed.
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>>3966674
To be fair, she is a criminal and not the secret boss so she couldn't turn into an item since she would need to be captured...
She technically already gives an "item" if you consider the baseball cap, since you find it at her place, and also you can get the bat in the alt route.
I could've seen a potential plot point where you would disobey capturing her, but then she would have to be the secret boss, and that didn't happen
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>>3966678
>flipped across the origin rather than just the X axis
Misremembered my geometry, should say Y-axis
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>>3966690
Well I hope you do something nice for her later. Even if its something as simple as letting her go home to live on Kanako's shelf. Actually, I think that might be an ideal ending for her. I hope you do that.

Man, this still rattles me to talk about even now. She needs a hug.
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>>3966651
Those are actually all pretty nice.
I know you were joking about them being twisted, but these are all very nice thoughts.
Comforting, and being comforted.
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So what happens to Bun Bun if you don't do her fight? Can you skip her fight?
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>>3966608
What a terrifying statement
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>>3966705
You are now imagining a threesome with fem!Yogurt and fem!Shu
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>>3966707
Nope.
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>>3966708
Its too late, the idea has been incepted into your mind. Your imagining Fem!Shu's tender yips as she tries and fails to act like she's done this before, and Fem!Yogurt's sweet [REDACTED] as she [REDACTED]s you [REDACTED]ly
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>>3966700
It's nice, but its upsetting to call it a fantasy.
the Chujin ones I'm somewhat embarrassed by when they cross my mind. To have a friend that gives you that kind of time when you're in a dark place, not a partner like martlet or ceroba supporting you, but a friend that may have complained as he picked up his phone, being genuinely busy, but seeing it's you, and setting aside the moment since this isn't something you just hit him with all the time.

Chujin at his best strikes me as someone that wouldn't begrudge a friend something like that. Keeping you talking as he's not sure what kind of state you're in right now. Reminding you of some upcoming event that the family is expecting to see you at.

Absolutely soul crushing autism. the thought of meeting him through Martlet because Martlet seems worried one day and reveals that she thinks her mentor could use a friend, but most monsters can't get through his thick skull.
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>>3966711
Still gonna be a big no from me dog.
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>>3966697
I am not the DRYanon though. Imagine if what we thought was DRYanon was just some rando pretending, lmao.
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>>3966713
>It's nice, but its upsetting to call it a fantasy.
Oh, yeah.
Fair.
>spoiler
Ah, I've been there a number of times.
Fantasies, I mean. Uh.
>Absolutely soul crushing autism. the thought of meeting him through Martlet because Martlet seems worried one day and reveals that she thinks her mentor could use a friend, but most monsters can't get through his thick skull.
Yeah, I could see being friends with him being cool.
Especially if you happen to share his inclination towards science and technology.
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>>3966715
nta but if nothing else, he sees our insane ramblings. Our words will reach him through the power of autism.
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>>3966713
>Chujin
nta, but were you ever gonna write a follow up to that green I posted. You said you would, and I'm curious if you still have plans to

>Meeting Chujin through Martlet
Wondeful thought. Imagine Chujin already hating that his closest monster friend and goddaughter has adopted a human child, and then finding out that now she's dating one. Though, still he supposes its better than forcing a monster father to raise than human, like with like and all. He can't imagine how a monster would even attempt teaching manners and discipline to something so dangerous. Imagine Martlet forcing you two to talk through inviting both of you to events or occasions then stepping out to do something or dragging Ceroba off girls' conversation. And then him finding out that you actually have a lot of common interests.

>Pic
You think that's bad, just wait until the memories she inherited from Chujin's soul start kicking in.
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>>3966718
>Ah, I've been there a number of times.
>Fantasies, I mean. Uh.
we're all gonna make it, and all that jazz. You know how it goes.
>Especially if you happen to share his inclination towards science and technology.
I'm not smart in the sense that I could keep up with purely technical talk, but having worked in sales for a long time, I adapt to new terminology very well. I could keep up a conversation with him on just about anything as long as I didn't have to actually get mathematical about it. It would help that I actually find the topics interesting and wouldn't have to fake it for a paycheck, but I wouldn't be any help actually advancing his formulas. After all, the biggest part of a reciprocated conversation, is that point when someone references an earlier part of the discussion, showing that you were actually listening even if you didn't get it.
I can imagine that he'd probably deal with a lot of the same frustrations on the surface as he did underground, since recognition in the workplace, or a lack thereof is one of the biggest complaints people have. He could be complaining that Martlet was even asking him to get to know a human, especially one that has no idea about anything Chujin does, and just hitting him with

"yeah you got me there man this shit is way over my head, but it sounds like you've got a point. You invented the Axis thing after all right? why not make some recordings of some proof of concepts for it? They said it had issues with getting knocked over, so just take a note from those old "battle bots" shows, they had some clever ideas for getting robots "unstuck"."
and having chujin just look at you like "what the hell is battle bots"

A layman can give decent perspective if they're capable of keeping up with the core "concept" of the conversation.
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>>3966724
>we're all gonna make it, and all that jazz. You know how it goes.
Ah, if you insist.
>A layman can give decent perspective if they're capable of keeping up with the core "concept" of the conversation.
Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it.
I myself actually do have experience with robots and more technical stuff like that, so I could probably give him some good advice, or just help him with his work, if he'd let me.
I brought it up at one point before, but honestly, I'd suggest just giving his Axis models tank treads, like Dark Man 1 from Mega Man. It'll be less versatile, but it'll be way harder to knock over.
Stuff like that.
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>>3966721
>nta, but were you ever gonna write a follow up to that green I posted. You said you would, and I'm curious if you still have plans to
Absolutely, I've just had a bit of trouble focusing on writing for the last couple weeks what with the sleep and work. I'm going to make some real effort to sit down, relax (hopefully), and do some writing.
>Imagine Martlet forcing you two to talk through inviting both of you to events or occasions then stepping out to do something or dragging Ceroba off girls' conversation. And then him finding out that you actually have a lot of common interests.
that's pretty good. I'd probably catch on to the birds autism, and give it an honest try. Back when I was in sales, I had a native american customer that started out really aggressive, hitting me with the "your people took everything from me" (genuinely an insane way to start a conversation but you hear everything) just fucking up front. By the end of it we were on great terms. If Martlet told me ahead of time that he was a craftsman of some sort, it would be game set match. I'd be sincere about it, don't get me wrong, but I'd know far more about Chujin than he does about me by the end of that conversation. Something I like to think a person like him would pick up on eventually.
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>>3966729
>I brought it up at one point before, but honestly, I'd suggest just giving his Axis models tank treads, like Dark Man 1 from Mega Man. It'll be less versatile, but it'll be way harder to knock over.
>Stuff like that.
honestly its a sensible idea, and doesn't just dismiss his design to add legs. I feel like his colleagues would mock the fact that he designed a robot without legs, but they just don't see the vision, they're blinded by the trendiness of a legged robot.
the two of you could get some plan going to overcome the issue of treads and stairs (something the wheels have to deal with anyways, or at least I don't recall axis going up stairs).

There's also the option of spring loaded mechanisms that could spring him back to the upright position which is where the battle bots thing came to mind since theres all the ways people made to get over those traps.
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>>3966730
> hitting me with the "your people took everything from me"
NTA, and this is really stupid, but I can't help but imagine that as like starting an interaction with an oblivion NPC or something.
He walks up to you, camera shifts to about two inches from his face, and he drops that line.
I can practically see it.
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>>3966734
I'm fucking cackling at the image of this anon, that's great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XR6dsy7ATE

It's honestly not far from the truth for the more insane interactions looking back on it.
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>>3966733
>There's also the option of spring loaded mechanisms that could spring him back to the upright position which
That is fair, but I think for the purposes for which the Axis models were created, having a wider base is helpful because it makes it better handling the recoil from any of its weaponry, which is pretty important for a military robot.
Like a tiny automated tank, almost.
Legs could be implemented later on, but right now it just needs to be a mobile unmanned weapons-platform, so we should work on that first.
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>>3966736
the springloading may be good for civilian models. Treads would be perfect for the offensive ones, as they project an image on top of being effective, but if you made an axis that could work in the home or office, the treads would be intimidating to regular people. The wheel would make that model endearing, and the spring loading could be an alternate method saved for those versions alone.
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>>3966546
It’s more that the threads became boring once the original posters left.
Compared to the ones then, the newer threads are unrecognizable from how they began.
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>>3966738
IIRC, Chujin's initial idea for the Axis line was for an automated royal guard, so civilians aren't really a concern here.
If there was a need for a civilian model for whatever reason, that could probably just be an entirely different model altogether, rather than trying to make slight variations to the same one design that result in it being an ineffective jack of all trades.
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>>3966730
>Back when I was in sales
You didn't tell me you were a [PIPIS] person. Now I kinda want to know how you would handle a conversation with Spamton, assuming he's not trying to kill you.

> hitting me with the "your people took everything from me" just fucking up front
Wow, you met John Redcorn.

>By the end of it we were on great terms.
What'd you talk about?

>. Something I like to think a person like him would pick up on eventually.
How do you think he'd react?
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>>3966741
yeah the original version wasn't for civilian use, but I'm just saying, as a layman, he looks like he's already feature complete for civilian purposes if that IFF issue gets worked out. Don't need to make it an innefective jack of all trades when he's already good at handling various tasks around a facility not related to security. He's basically already there isn't he?
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>>3966738
I'm imagining this as us both talking to Chujin, trying to convince him to go a certain direction with his project, with me trying to convince him to make a miniaturized tank, and with you trying to get him to make something that can occupy the same space as a civilian without scaring the hell out of them.
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>>3966744
that's funny because that's what I've been picturing as well
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>>3966743
>He's basically already there isn't he?
Industrialization and automation are nice and all, but Chujin built Axis to be a guard robot, and he could be a lot better at that.
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>>3966735
>the more insane interactions
tell me more
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>>3966745
Ah, isn't it nice how imagination brings us together?
Really though, I could help him make such a good killing machine, we'd be shortsighted not to take it as far we could.
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>>3966741
Have you met the royal guard? All they do is deal with civilians. They're basically just beat cops.
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>>3966749
Okay, yeah, but the robots don't need to do that, they just need to keep people safe by being good at dealing with threats.
You don't need to be sociable to be good at killing, and neither does a robot.
Let the living guards handle the people, they're better at it than their actual jobs anyway.
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>>3966750
Ok, so maybe don't bill as a mechanical royal guard then. That's like trying to market ED 209 to a small town police department. Just sell as what it actually is, a human extermination machine. I'm sure that would have plenty of potential buyers on the surface. After all, humans love killing each other.
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>>3966742
I've always been a man of the [PIPIS] even if I don't live that life anymore.
Spamton is the old blood, the kinds I learned from but usually weren't out on the floor alongside you anymore what with the years of drug abuse catching up to them. Usually when those types hit the sales floor, they either completely ignored other sales people, tried to take you under your wing, or, and this one is hard to describe if you haven't seen it, but would tell you stories about their life or their tactics, while staring at you like you weren't even there. Career salesmen are an unusual sort, and I saw a lot of shit over 10 years. Spamton would probably take you under his wing because it gives that kind something to do, while giving them a chance to take half of your commissions if they get to step in on one of your deals as a closer. If you were too competent for him to take some of your deals, you MAY form a partnership where you close eachothers deals as a second face "a turn" if your personality was not clicking with the customer right. I can see Spamton trying to convince you of that kind of bargain.
>john redcorn
slightly more honorable as a person but yeah that kind of chip on his shoulder
>What'd you talk about?
in short
"Honor, goals, hopes, aspirations, and family"
>How do you think he'd react?
based on how people responded over the years, I'd like to think he wouldn't take it as me pulling the wool over his eyes, nor that he'd notice within the first while of getting to know him. I'm not really trying to deceive after all, it's just how I approach things, and most people you talk to, sadly don't want to know about you as much as they may claim. It would probably hit him after he started considering us friends, however unlikely it was. Chujin strikes me as someone that is invested in the people around him, and it would probably start bothering him that he doesn't know much about the human.
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>>3966753
>maybe don't bill as a mechanical royal guard then
It's still a guard, it's just more guard than mascot.
>That's like trying to market ED 209 to a small town police department.
I can imagine lots of small towns that would gladly take you up on that offer.
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>>3966755
Ok, maybe Axis would have a market among redneck sheriffs then. Imagine Chujin finally getting out of the underground and the wild east, only to find himself making a living selling his "human extermination machine" to the human versions of the people he hated most in that town.
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>>3966757
Eh, if it's good enough at what it does, I could see him potentially making some money off his design selling it to some military force.
Anyway, a heavily militarized robot would be pretty useful in the underground, given that the only threat that really comes up seems to just be humans, since we don't really see too many monster criminals or anything like that in UT.
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>>3966754
>old blood, the kinds I learned from but usually weren't out on the floor alongside you anymore what with the years of drug abuse catching up to them. Usually when those types hit the sales floor, they either completely ignored other sales people, tried to take you under your wing, or, and this one is hard to describe if you haven't seen it, but would tell you stories about their life or their tactics, while staring at you like you weren't even there
You took that from a movie, didn't you?

But assuming you aren't lying, would offer to tell Chujin how to better sell people on his robot?
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>>3966747
I wont go too far with this because it will start to get a bit off topic but
>scraggled looking customer walks on the lot out from the treeline
>asks for a car with a big trunk
>"how big?"
>none of your business.
>"no really, how big like, what are you needing to store?"
>I said none of your business.
>"whatever man I'll show you one but now you've just got me curious"
>he looks at me for a long moment before answering this time
>it needs to fit something about 6 feet long
>"that's weird" pop open a nearby trunk "what about this one?"
>guy gets inside the trunk and curls up into the fetal position, then gets out
>nope, not big enough
and then he just walked back off into the tree line and I never saw him again.

Had a customer drive me to their house and cooked me dinner with his family once. Had another customer that stormed out of the building, so I looked at the address he gave, drove to his house, knocked on his door and made peace with the guy. I just don't have the nerves of steel for that shit anymore. Plus you always think you're gonna hit it big and become a [big shot] salesman, and you end up still fighting for scraps 10 years later. Spamton was unbelievably real for me.
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>>3966761
You ever now any spamton's? By that I mean salesmen that have have hit absolute rock bottom after being in the game for a long time.
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>>3966760
>You took that from a movie, didn't you?
I can only tell you to take me at my word as an anonymous stranger on the internet. but every word is true. Career Salesmen are weird and sometimes dangerous people.

>But assuming you aren't lying, would offer to tell Chujin how to better sell people on his robot?
Absolutely. The biggest trick to selling something has nothing to do with what the thing can actually do. An honest salesman is of course, selling something the buyer actually needs, but the end truth is the buyer cares more about how they feel about the product than the product itself. I've seen many salesmen talk their way out of deals because they wouldn't shut up about the specs, and you can see the customer just lose interest in real time.
He's too emotionally invested in the sale, in how important it is that people accept the product because he knows the good it will do for them. He needs to step back mentally, and focus on the customers excitement.
yes his product his good, yes they should know better to buy it but mentally that's not how a sale works. One of my old bosses used to say something like "a sale happens when excitement is higher than the payment" or something to that effect. Asgore would absolutely be an easy target for a money hungry salesman. He gets excited about "ohh robot with a soul" and doesn't actually check to make sure the product works.

I wonder if in DRY, chujin got a front man, a person to handle the sales side of things, and that's who ripped him off. it's a common dynamic, engineer getting a salesperson to get the masses going, but chujin may not have been savvy enough to protect himself contractually. or perhaps he was too trusting.

If chujin wanted me to be that guy, my first piece of advice would be to draft up a contract that protects him first and foremost.
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>>3966765
>. it's a common dynamic, engineer getting a salesperson to get the masses going, but chujin may not have been savvy enough to protect himself contractually. or perhaps he was too trusting.
Honestly, that's what I assume. If not an actual salesman, then a peer who did all the "people work" side of things in his field, and then Zuckerberg'd him out of his baby when the money started rolling in.

Honestly makes me wonder if DRY Chujin wouldn't automatically distrust you over that. Even if he doesn't know you're a salesman, maybe he'd recognize the trick, and assume you mean the worst because his old "friend" did that.
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>>3966764
Many, myself included, though I never made it to [BIG SHOT] status myself. One that was a [BIG SHOT] though got told to train his replacement one day, and he left behind a wife and kid.
Anyways don't get into sales.
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>>3966761
> Plus you always think you're gonna hit it big and become a [big shot] salesman, and you end up still fighting for scraps 10 years later. Spamton was unbelievably real for me.
NTA, but I really hope you can't relate too hard to Spamton.
I imagine it would be quite difficult to get electricity and internet access in a dumpster though.
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>>3966768
>One that was a [BIG SHOT] though got told to train his replacement one day, and he left behind a wife and kid.
Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>3966772
>>3966768
Now I'm imagining Spamton giving his usual spiel towards an invisible audience while he ties a noose and hangs himself. Only to fail because he's a [long nose doll] with no lungs.

Do you think Toby actually knew some salesmen, or is this just an easy thing to guess?
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>>3966778
>Now I'm imagining Spamton giving his usual spiel towards an invisible audience while he ties a noose and hangs himself. Only to fail because he's a [long nose doll] with no lungs.
Man, we're getting a lot darker than usual tonight, huh?
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>>3966767
It's flip of the coin for DRY chujin I think. I was very good at not coming across "as a salesman" which is why I got used as a closer at a certain point. I think his guard would be up already since I'm a human, and I tried to find things to actually give a shit about with customers so that I didn't have to fake the enthusiasm, and I think my interest in his work would be genuine, but if he learned that I was a salesman at some point, he'd immediately put up walls, as people do. Like I said, if we got past that point as friends somehow, I'd tell him to draft up a contract that protects him if he ever wanted my help or really anyone elses in an endeavor. No matter how much you trust someone, there's no disrespect in a contract in a business relationship (in my eyes).
>>3966769
I managed to keep a roof over my head, so things could have "technically" gotten worse, but if you'd asked me at the time I would have considered it absolute rock bottom.
>>3966778
He probably at least had encountered a salesman that made an impact in his memory. There's a movie, suckers, that actually very accurately shows what the morning meetings were like. when they were light hearted that is. There's exagerrations and the actual "sales process" is more accurate to what the 80s was said to be like, but the meetings are just like that.
>>3966781
my apologies, that's probably on me this time around.
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>>3966781
Its Spamton, it comes with the territory.
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>>3966783
>but if you'd asked me at the time I would have considered it absolute rock bottom.
Was this before or after Deltarune chapter 2? Because I want to know how far removed from it you were when Spamton was inflicted upon the world.
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>>3966783
>I managed to keep a roof over my head, so things could have "technically" gotten worse, but if you'd asked me at the time I would have considered it absolute rock bottom.
Man.
I hope you don't have to worry about that sort of thing these days, or ever again for that matter.
>my apologies, that's probably on me this time around.
It's alright, it's happened before, just didn't expect that sort of turn tonight.
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>>3966789
after, I'd reached lows before and found spamton relatable, but it wasn't another 2 years before it really caught up with me. I had a good time with chapters 3 and 4, but It never sat right with me how people "scrunglified" spamton even hardier after 3 and 4. I don't know how to put it but it spamton in chapter 2 was genuinely relatable, so seeing certain people say "oh he is so me" struck me funny.
>>3966793
>I hope you don't have to worry about that sort of thing these days, or ever again for that matter.
thank you anon, I work significantly less hours than before, and getting out of that business gave me the free time to finally write, even if it's just autistic fanfics, it means the world to me to be able to do.
>It's alright, it's happened before, just didn't expect that sort of turn tonight.
I generally avoid going personal like that in threads, I let my guard down as part of the Chujin discussion and thinking of where all that would go, his reaction to me being in sales and all of that. I probably shouldn't have answers the heavier questions, but I'm glad it was relatively on topic by means of spamton and chujin.
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>>3966796
>so seeing certain people say "oh he is so me" struck me funny.
I think the only people who can say that with complete honesty (present company aside) are the twitter crypto bros. They literally are just Spamton, except they skipped straight to living in a dumpster.

> I probably shouldn't have answers the heavier questions,
Nta, but I really enjoyed that discussion. Besides, it seems like its run its course.
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>>3966796
>I don't know how to put it but it spamton in chapter 2 was genuinely relatable
I am so sorry that your "literally me" had to be Spamton of all people. You deserve better.
>thank you anon, I work significantly less hours than before, and getting out of that business gave me the free time to finally write, even if it's just autistic fanfics, it means the world to me to be able to do.
And we're all glad to have you with us in the threads.
>I probably shouldn't have answers the heavier questions, but I'm glad it was relatively on topic by means of spamton and chujin.
Don't worry about it, this sort of thing is what unites us here as anons.
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>>3966567
No worries anon. Feel free to whenever, I'm almost always here.
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>>3966796
>I let my guard down as part of the Chujin discussion and thinking of where all that would go
I wasn't as present for this one, but I'm just glad I was able to briefly participate in a conversation about Chujin without having to fend off eyedropper allegations again.
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Gave the last thread a read through and while it was nice (thank you for the advice to not read Paper Trail), there isn't much for me to say. Except for one thing:
>>3960075
>Okay, with Noelle in particular, there's practically mind-control at play there, so I feel like it's not necessarily fair to say that she completely wants everything that's going on in the weird route because she's practically being indoctrinated.
I watched an interview with an exorcist and through it all I noticed parallels with what's going on in Deltarune. Specifically, when it comes to demonic possession two common types of cases are those who get involved in the occult and rape victims, which explains why there's that scene in Chapter 4. Also, demons view the world in a fundamentally different way which while impossible to accurately replicate in a game, is reflected by your ability to reset until you get the result you want and to look into the code of the game itself. And yet, just as demons are said to be extremely limited in what they can do (to the point they may not be able to uphold their end of a demonic pact), the player is explicitly limited by a designed interface and has to work along those lines.
If ever I get around to writing a literary version of the Weird Route, I want to emphasize its occultic aspects because it's an interesting rabbit hole.
>>3966651
That makes two of us, anon aside from losing a kid. I'd rather fantasize about being a stepdad.

As for me, I'd be cooking the meals and trying to teach her along the way. Also being the breadwinner wouldn't be easy, but giving her a happy life with family is well worth it. I'm not much into bar-hopping but going out with Martlet and the Ketsukanes would be fun, too.
>>3966761
Salesmen have great stories to tell and can become comedians, but I would never want that kind of life which sounds pretty close to that old comedy "Earthworm Tractors." I was close to getting into sales and I'm glad I didn't.
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>>3966801
thats fair, and it was fun. New angles on the Chujin friendship ideas have wormed their way into my brain from this.

and yeah I shouldn't look too deep into the "literally me". he's got a lot of relatability for anyone that's tried and failed at something. I still feel like the fandom started hyperfixating on a different image of spamton after 3 and 4 came out though, probably.
>>3966803
>that fucking gif again
Anyways, we don't get to pick our scrimblos and literally mes. The autism guides us unknowingly.

Goodnight anons, I didn't realize that 3 hours passed me by.
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>>3966814
>there isn't much for me to say. Except for one thing:
You really went back to reply to a single line in a post I made that barely had anything to do with UTDR or fangames?
Man.
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>>3966815
>that fucking gif again
It's a very funny gif.
>Goodnight anons, I didn't realize that 3 hours passed me by.
Goodnight, anon.
I should probably also sleep, but I wanna finish this Luzma image. Almost got the sketch done.
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>>3966814
>That makes two of us, anon aside from losing a kid.
I thought about the post after a while, and yeah honestly I really would be happiest if I could get with martlet, and help raise Clover.

But I remembered after the post that she didn't watch clover die as she left the rooftop. Maybe instead comforting her with times when she remembers that she wasn't even there for Clover when he died, and how can she call herself a mom to the kid now that he's come back when she let him die alone.

and then holding her and telling her how much she means to the kid, telling her she should have a talk with him about this sometime, because it's a pretty serious matter, but reassuring her that Clover has nothing but love in his heart for his mama bird.
ok now is time for sleep.
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What triggers the Kanako date at the end of day 2? I don't get the option to do it after talking to Sadie.
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>Kris' SOUL gets more luminous, he gains the Black Shard
>Clover's SOUL has its light taken away, he gains the Dark Shot
Funny parallels.
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>>3966828
it means kanako's confidence stat wasn't high enough
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>>3966828
She needs be be tilted.
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Sigh.
I'm tired.
Against my own desires, I must go to sleep instead of finishing this Luzma/Anon drawing tonight.
I have failed.
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Where the FUCK is that rodent?
I've heard that there was a pseudo-Mooch hangout if you talked to her after going to Sadie's and coming back once Kanako is sleeping encounter, but she never appeared in Day 2 for me
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>>3966842
What influences her confidence stat?
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>>3966848
you need to talk to her before entering the dark world, and then after the dark world but before the dinner scene (she won't spawn then if you didn't talk to her earlier)
I'm thinking about lowering the requirements to just need to talk to her once at either of those spots


>>3966850
the choices you make in day 1 and day 2 regarding her
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>>3966854
...
I will start a Fury Chapter 2 file now.
Any pain inflicted on this world lay on her shoulders.
(Mooch was, in fact, a bad influence on Cole/me.)
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>>3966854
>the choices you make in day 1 and day 2 regarding her

Holy vague.
>Call Kanako cringe in one section 50 hours ago
>She now no longer wants to go hangout
Human bros... we are ngmi...
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>>3966857
Be as cold as possible and encourage her anger outbursts when you can.
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>>3966857
it's okay, plenty of baddies in Hometown
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>>3966858
You can do it on the normal route too if you didn't know, the dialogue is different
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>>3966861
So how do you do in on the normal route?
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>>3966861
We can??? Is Cole independently walzting to the date's room?
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>>3966857
>she called kanako cringe

the real monster here is you anon
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>>3966864
You'd do the same after seeing her AO3 account and her OCs.
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>>3966866
that would make me a hypocrite if I did since I read shattered decade and have ocs
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>>3966867
Then you're both cringe.
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>>3966869
well you just missed out on the dating scene with me
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>>3966864
B-but she called Cole's OC cringe as well if she thinks it's so, then why does she keep it betrayed and trapped in her hyperbolic time chamber?
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>>3966872
Because she wants to safekeep it forever.
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>>3966860
Cole caught oneitis from starlo...
A disease afflicted on all juandicers
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>>3966862
I guess like how DRY anon said, you have to pick dialogue choices such that Kanako's confidence stat is high. Though I don't know the specifics of this, presumably these generally are options where you're nice or encouraging to her.
I've seen some chapter 2 playthroughs on YouTube where they show the date.
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>>3966876
are you guys referring to nako taking you to the mines or is that part of every playthrough
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>>3966877
Yeah, what's in the spoilers. I didn't get it in my playthrough
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>>3966878
I see, I nicemaxxed in my playthrough even doe i headcanon cole as a stoic doomer
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>>3966877
If only we could take Gizmo with us. He'd sing "Don't Mine at Night", I know it in my heart.
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>>3966527
>>3966538
There was also these Zenith Martlet wips shared by another artist here.
They're both of her butt, but one's from the from the front and the other one's from the back.

https://files.catbox.moe/qmrtm8.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gthcj6.png
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>>3966881
>stoic doomer
Isn't that Kris?
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>>3966881
Its funny that on my first playthrough I got the date, yet when I reloaded and got all criminals and the secret boss, then I didn't have it. I was nice all the time and didn't even pick any bad options...
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How do you enjoy a games soundtrack if you dont like the game?
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>>3966884
I also love Kris if you couldn't tell
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>>3966873
She already has a friend inside her though.
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>>3966889
Chujin is not going to be happy about that...
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>>3966890
It's fine... It's not like he is going to break her heart. Again.
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>>3966891
Anons would for the lulz.
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>>3966845
Rest well anon, you earned it.
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>>3966607
>"someone else"
Bro just be honest about your art and characters. You get less recognition from lying about it.

Looks good btw.
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>>3966876
Fuuuuuck, I thought I picked all the confidence encouraging choices but I guess I missed some, or maybe I responded poorly on some. Now I've got a reason for a second playthrough I guess
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>>3966982
The whole point of Noz is that lots of different people post stuff. I drew the one Quetzali, Racter, and Martlet that's all.
Also are you insinuating that I'm Yogurt?
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>>3967013
Considering nobody outside of 4chan is obsessed with Yagi, yes we are implying that you or one of the other yagifags drew it.
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>>3967025
>we
Speak for yourself nutjob
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>>3967031
Not him and he speaks for me, no one wants to hear about your e-celeb obsession.
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>>3967032
You couldn't even keep your accusation straight in the first post, idiot.
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Once again, anons are unable to resist the effects of the Yogurorb
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>>3967037
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>3967047
You accused him of being Yogurt then immediately admitted to the existence of yogurt fans which you accused him of being.
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>>3966154
I didn't reply to this because the thread ended, so I thought I'd go back to it now.
Also hopefully the cross-thread reply works because I've never done this before.
>I wasn't implying you lost them, just that you feel more for her now.
Yeah, I guess I do.
My feelings went from wanting to see her bent and broken in a very particular way due to some details about her (not like, *broken* broken, but you know already), to just genuinely really liking her as a character, fantasizing more about spending time with her, or cuddling with her.
She has a lot of silly traits about her, but she also has some more genuine stuff going on, and I guess I just like the specific combination of traits she has going on in particular.
I dunno, I just really like her.
>Can't say I've ever felt that towards a character, but maybe the scrimblo that will "infect me" hasn't been made yet or is waiting to be discovered in another hidden sect of fangame devs somewehre in the vast internet.
It's possible you might not have the same kind of autism that results in scrimblo-affliction like a lot of other people here have. Alternatively, it could just be as you said, in that the scrimblo that would manage to hit all of your weakpoints simply hasn't come to your attention yet, and someday you'll be just as I am now.
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>>3967062
I made exactly one post, who the fuck is "you"
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>>3967040
Kill yourself
>>3967062
Nobody accused anyone of being the oc. Please get some reading comprehension
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>but we totally don't use it exclusively to threadshit guys
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What if Coach L4D2 was in Undertale
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>>3966154
>I guess having two characters that pander to some of your specific tastes in this Mongolian basket weaving forum coming back to back was already too much coincidence
I think the two characters from these threads that I've become infatuated with are due to certain traits they have that I either view as being desirable, or see myself in to some extent.
For Luzma, she's silly, but she also has genuine parts to her too (I find her views on the royal guard outlined in that one post to be interesting, and pretty justified given what we see of the royal guard in UT), and I like her strength as a trait in general. She has qualities I like in a person.
For Reynault, the other of the two characters I grew attached to in these threads, he's disabled, and he's a miserable prick.
So, I see myself in him to a certain extent.
Okay, while I'm not nearly so disabled as he is, having managed to retain all my limbs, there are certain aspects of his disability I find relatable or sympathetic, given my own experiences.
I won't go too in-depth as to why I like both of these characters beyond that, but these are generally the reasons why I like them in broad terms.
>maybe SURVEY_2 or Geltarune will include characters that just scratch an itch you've been ignoring
While I don't doubt that there's some other configuration of traits that could end up getting to me, I don't really pay attention to the strictly DR-related fangames around here, or even generally, so I wouldn't bet on anything from one of those to be the one that ends up getting me next.
If I had to bet on what'd end up being the next thing to end up really hitting me, it'd probably be just another character from UTN or Oldentale, whenever either of those two have more to show off. They both seem to have the best actual character writing for fangames that have entirely original casts, and they're the only ones to have gotten me so far, so maybe they'll end up getting me again someday.
I wouldn't count on it though.
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>>3967077
He'd travel through the whole underground just to make his way to the MTT resort so he could eat nothing but glamburgers.
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>>3966811
To be fair anon, when it wasnt busy being sad, that eye dropper conversation was really funny.
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>>3967080
I can't express enthusiasm for scientific endeavors without endlessly being made the subject of fun.
But one day, one day.
You'll all see.
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>>3967079
>"Maybe the barrier *huff* Maybe the barrier is made of chocolate!"
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>>3967084
Coach would eat straight through the barrier if you told him that.
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>>3967083
>anon and chujin discussing further applications for core juice
>"so if we inject the juice directly into a broken bone, the pain should just, 'go away', right?"
>chujin stares at you for a moment before
>"anon... You're a genius, how did I never think of that!"
>then he stops "wait, there's one problem... we need broken bones to test it"
>anon smiles smugly as he pulls out a hammer
>chujin slaps his forehead like its the obvious solution
>"of course! Alright, rock paper scissors to see who gets to go first."

Hey to be fair Im on board for the tank tread idea, but the mad science core juice duo is hilarious
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>>3967087
Perhaps localized application of the Core juice could result in simply removing the bone's brokenness altogether...
This will require further experimentation.
>Hey to be fair Im on board for the tank tread idea
Thank you, finally someone who understands.
>but the mad science core juice duo is hilarious
I just think me and Chujin would deserve a little more credit than that in that scenario.
At least somewhat.
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L4D campaign, but you play as scrimblos



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