Much like TNO itself, we'll rework our last thread from scratch and hopefully get more leaks than last time.Current leaks:https://files.catbox.moe/mnyk0n.pdf - Helldorff & Moskowien mechanics. 160 pages, can you finish it by the time the next rework drops?https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. It's taken them over a year to touch up the superregional.In loving memory of Burma Anon.
Current drama: One of TNO's lead designers had a public meltdown and was warned after telling someone to commit suicide + rumor has it that there is a new Moskowien rework cooking.Keep the leaks coming and let's pray for some actual Burma content.
>>1781283I bring good news. DV isn’t dead yet.
>>1781283Are you Corn?>>1781304Kill yourself.
>>1781305Why do you hate DV, anon? It provides an althist outlook on how an amazing continent with rich history would be affected by an Axis victory.
>>1781305As much as I love a good rework I can't hold a candle to Corn's devotion to endless reworks. Also don't respond to the retard's DV bait, not even Calph pretends to give a shit about his OTL African Cold War screensaver after it became clear it wasn't being integrated.
>>1781306Because DV misgendered me, I'm trans and a nigger and Calph said a transphobic slur to me and said white supremacist slogans.
>>1781283>cutting Komi
>>1781317Harmless joke, or an eerie prediction of future reworks? You decide!Though real talk: Corn has already signed off on reworking AB from scratch to make it unrecognizable so he's likely salivating at the thought of at the very least cutting Tabby over realism.
FOR GOD'S SAKE BRING BACK ASHLEY AND DO ACTUAL WORK ON MANCHUKUO PLEASE
>>1781406>MANCHUKUOlmao literally never coming outunless it is one of the very few things which are already done just not released because the devs are incompetent then it's never coming outenjoy the teasers and leaks because it's going to enter rework hell too
>>1781449Manchukuo not releasing isn't caused by dev incompetence, it's more infuriating than that. The head is a decent guy but since he often criticizes the leads he gets treated like shit and they retaliate by putting up road blocks for him. Criticize something, whoops that's another three months of progress being stuck in limbo because you're not getting approved for anything.So the mod about shitty pencil pushers ruining the world by being shitty politicians? Run by fat retards that act like petty pencil pushers over an autistic game. You're right though, it'll never release and will be reworked when they inevitably chase out the last few devs working on it. I'll eat my hat if it gets released without massive amounts of interference.
Wouldn't it be easier to just ask the leads what the hell do they want? Maybe that way the mod will actually get finished.And then release the nation/tree as intended (without the changes made to appease the leads) as a submod.
>>1781473>Asking the people who are reworking every tag in the mod to make consistent, lasting demands>Asking a bunch of petty manchildren not to hold grudges for all eternity over years of criticismEven if he caved on everything and agreed to never criticize them ever again and it somehow worked it'd only be a few months before they changed their minds and asked for more changes. Also at that point why the fuck would you even bother? Just make a submod, no one would want to touch the gimped version without content anyway which is what the leads will demand that it becomes.
>>1781288i don't like tno mods but some people need to stop shitting their pants at being told something as vanilla as jump off a cliff. Literal basedboys get upset by this.
>>1781499It's the double standards that piss people off. If someone told him this on the comm server it'd be an instant ban and a lot of holier than thou grandstanding.
>>1781306DV isnt god damned alt hist, its just ripping OTL into TNO.
>>1781554YOU SEE IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE CAMEROON'S BORDERS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
Dead. Mod.Italy. Never.
when are we gonna make tno redux?
>>1781288Bigger nothingburger than upcoming Mexico "content"
>>1781466this mod feels excactly like when that shitty clique takes over and ruins your guild
>1781575Fuck off spammer
>>1781726Yep, that sure is how a lot of us feel.
>>1781321>Removing tabbyFunny how the devs are incompetent and lazy as heck, and the playerbase is constantly being kept on the dark about the current ongoins, but once normalfags see Burgundy being removed, Long Yu gone and cucked, and Yazov being mogged hard by a lame release of WRW, the remaining faith on the mod gonna crash hard, and devs be put on a pike
>>1781480Ask these questions:Does it work (as in, does it make the game crash)?Is it balanced?Does it fit the mod theme?Is it fun to play as/against?If the answers are positive, tell them to shove whatever changes they want up their ass. Bam, mod released.
>>1781738>and devs be put on a pikeBy whom? The rheddit and discord communities orbiting of the mod are further gone than the team, get a grip.
orbiting the mod* of course
>>1781780Meanwhile in real life, how it'll work out is this:>Does it work (as in, does it make the game crash)?"Who cares?">Is it balanced?"We don't need gameplay.">Does it fit the mod theme?"That doesn't seem very realistic, anon. Rework it.">Is it fun to play as/against?"Please, that's not very realistic. Please remove any wars. We're one step removed from a world conquest meme at this point.">>1781781The Reddit has grown cautiously pessimistic towards them after years of endless reworks and nothing to show for it. The Discord is completely buckbroken though, they banned all their critics already.
>>1781781The Reddit is full of nothing but stale memes and retards spamming their shitty AAR reports that no one gives a flying fuck about.
>>1781846>those answersSo not a single person actually wants to work on the mod, and the people that do are either put in rework hell for all eternity or banned?Why does that community exist? What's preventing disgruntled people who actually want to work on TNO make their own TNO?
>>1781872>What's preventing disgruntled people who actually want to work on TNO make their own TNO?The sad answer is that everyone that's left and would do something like that usually hated their experience working on that team so much that they move on to different things.
The one and only thing that keeps the TNO development very, very barely going is just the sunk cost fallacy. Frankly, the only reason it released under Panzie and even with just the fraction of what was promised, is the fact that you had extremely easy access to driven autists with too much free time to spare during the pandemic.
>>1781853>uHM HELLO GUYS ITS ME U/TRANSRIGHTSBEAR196 AND THIS IS MY AAR>WHOLESOME SOCIALISTS ELECTED IN UNITED STATES, SOUTHERN BIGOTS FUCKING KILLED>BASED SABLIN DESTROYS EVIL NAZI BORMANN AND WHOLESOME REVOLUTION IN EUROPE >EVIL FREE FRENCH NAZI CHUDS ARE BLACKED BY WHOLESOME PAN-AFRICAN REVOLUTIONARIES>*insert even moar autistic lore*
>theres a message in changelog channel>think HOLY FUCK THEY'RE FINALLY GONNA ADD SOMETHING WE'RE BACK NO MORE DOOM >its fucking thisi know i shouldn't have expected much but come on..
>>1781946The worst thing about those AARs is the captions of all of the images trying to be hecking deep and symbolic like TNO writing. Shit like "there can only be one sun in the sky" on a picture of the NPA fighting Japan or "the elephant and the donkey have tired each other out" on a US election map. Not saying that these captions by themselves are necessarily bad, but they are done to excess by these TNO players that it just becomes cliche and obnoxious.
>'the ruin' ruined the modYou can't make this shit up.
>>1782003Corn and Ugli ruined the mod.
>>1781971Is it as obnoxious as the "W, X, Y, Z. All words that could be said about [PERSON, ENTITY]" writing?
>>1782050Yes, I was thinking that exactly.
>>1782003I never thought of that but it's true, "The Ruin" really is when the disease became terminal. That's really funny when you think about it.>>1782004I'd put Mango and Lam there too with their endless reworks of everything in America and Germany respectively. That halted all progress for years. Especially the US one since that's a total downgrade.
>>1782091While I agree about Mango, we have seen the leaks of Germany content and most of it looks quite good. Not to say that I like Lam, but out of those four he is probably the least bad, part of the reason being that he doesn't have autistic meltdowns like the others in public.
>>1782094Let's put it this way: one makes good toozers for content that's never releasing (while only having spergouts in private) while the other makes bad toozers for content that's never releasing (while having public spergouts).In the end, they're really just different symptoms of the same disease.
>>1782102I meant the (literal) leaks of stuff that wasn't released to the community, that stuff looked pretty good.
>>1782115>a focus tree with some blingy graphics and no effects>that has probably been reworked by now>releasing neverYippie the hype train is back on track!
>>1781283Trying to rework TNO is like redoing YanSim at this point.
>>1782119I mean the stuff definitely looked promising considering they made the Slave Revolt much more interesting and didn't railroad any German paths to failure, but to be honest since Janey left it's very likely that it's been thrown out.
BRING BACK ASHLEY OR I WILL SUICIDE BOMB THE TNO HEADQUATERI'M LOOKING AT YOU TRANNYDEVS
>>1782140Least radicalized Ashley fan.
>>1782142He's right you know. As memed as Ashley was on these threads Ashley was genuinely one of the few competent devs with high enough power to do shit.
>>1782135>it's very likely that it's been thrown outWhy are they like this
>>1781283i dont know if it was posted already but this should be a leak of Wallace's focus tree (unless my friend bulshitted me in that case im killing him)
>>1782225They love the process of reworking and theorycrafting more than getting something playable out of it. Why do you think they bitch about gameplay being secondary to lore all the time? It's because they get their enjoyment out of the process, not the results. Once you realize this then it makes more sense that they keep spinning their wheels and why they're content with this stagnation.
>>1782231you're arguing that the devs just want to mindlessly mod? i personally know a dev and that dosent really look like the case
>>1782233Not consciously if that makes sense. But when you look at their work process it comes across as if they like to plan and write documents more than playing the game.If I'm wrong then lmao sucks to be them, they have to be fucking miserable then.
What is this mod about?
>>1782274trannys making a mod but it's pretty interesting
>>1782274Alt history cold war mod between japan germany and the usa starting in 1962. More focussed on internal and geopolitics, every nation has its own mini games which tie into the rest of the gameplay. Little direct wars unless you play in Russia and rather more proxy conflicts where you send volunteers or try to covertly influence other nations. Russia has warlord states fighting to reunify the nation.A lot more focus on writing, detailing not just the lives of the governing elites but also the common people and how their lives change. Less of a wargame overall, and more a geopolitics and domestic politics simulator with more reading to be done. Or just ignore reading and charge ahead. Most nations have 5 till 10 years of content per playthrough.>inb4 some faggot calls me a tranny because this thread cant manage to ignore the lot of them
>>1782274An allegorical retelling of the tale of Sisyphus pushing up a rock but instead of Sisyphus pushing up a rock forever it's a dev team deleting everything in their Axis victory mod for a map painting game and starting over from scratch every day and getting nowhere as a result.
>>1781971It's called NVbrain and it mostly affects redditor trannies who strongly identify with NV character Ulysses (he is also brown and autistic like them).
>>1782323>bringing up new vegas entirely at random the worst thing that ever happened to 4chan was /v/ being gaslit into a game it previously loved solely because hbomberguy made a video essay on it.I'm assuming Fallout 3 is better according to you.
>>1782336
>>1782336>into hatingI accidentally a word, pain.
>>1782323It's actually called being a faggot and you're guilty of it as well.
>>1782228they cucked wallace so hard what the fuck..
>>1782358Everything must be a constant march to 2024. Wallace can only be a speed bump.Unless you're Hall, at which point you're allowed to blow up the system because you're a communist.As expected from the same Mango who said:>"My issue with [the midnight mods] is that America is inherently a white supremacist nation and so [George Lincoln Rockwell becoming president] wouldn't change anything since 90% of the people who Americans would vote for would be white supremacist.
Didn't think about this mod for like a year. Red Italy status? Goering rework status? Brazil status? Eastern Europe status?
>>1782228I am still convinced that the US "rework" is just a means of internal dev team control. Anyone sufficiently schizoid about their obsession with cold war USA politics is put into this safespace busybox of writing shit that will only see the light of day via leaks. Its like how IRL Salazar staffers cut his phone line when he became fully demented from old age.
>>1782228>>1782358>>1782370Can confirm that it's real (unless it's a really elaborate troll). It's total shit and why a lot of us hated the rework since the proposal was leaked. It completely neuters everything on the right side of the old NPP content and just makes it a stepping stone on the inevitable march towards the realization of Mango's IRL political beliefs. I couldn't think of anything more uninteresting to do with these candidates even if I tried. It really is a shame how the most boring, uncreative and awful politards of Reddit always take over these types of projects and drive them into the ground.>>1782371>Red Italy status?All of Italy is in dev hell. Nothing is happening for at least a year.>Goering rework status?Nada, not happening this year either. Bormann and Speer this year maybe according to them. There's a Goering submod though, you can play that.>Brazil status?Two routes possibly getting 66-70 content this summer.>Eastern Europe status?Ukraine got some barebones early game content.You can safely ignore this mod for another year.
>it’s halfway through June and they’ve yet to release an update that was scheduled for MayWow, actual dead mod lmao.
>>1782370>>1782376>>1782383when i saw this i thought the exact same thing, it's made by someone who hates the idea of someone like Wallace being succesful in anything, and he hates the idea so hard he purposly makes it shit.
>>1782396Really goes to show how juvenile and insecure he is in his retarded beliefs if he can't even stand to see his ideology lose in a videogame, or conceptualize what a world where it doesn't succeed might look like for that matter.All of this in perfect isolation from the world where the Nazis won WW2 and pogroms are within the Overton Window across the pond lmao.
>>1782370hall won't even blow up the system anymore anonall he can do is piss in the wind as essentially a meme candidate picked by people who know he can't do shit and mayyyybe nationalise power
>>1782416I thought he could start a civil war or something because he's special? I don't know which is worse, honestly. Mango going all in on the AMERICA IS LE WHITE SUPREMACIST NATION NOTHING CAN EVER CHANGE meme or making Hall a special snowflake. Both are bad in their own unique ways.
>>1782370Mango/QPQ made a mod where you are playing as Gus Hall in 1972 against the ebil Nickyson and the unwholesome John ConnallyOne interesting thing about it when compared to 1965 Midnight is that 1972d is an easy mod. 1965 Midnight, even if you run a middling campaign, you will lose, and the ending slide to a loss is Rockwell's candidacy shown as footnote in a newspaper clipping.Meanwhile in 72d, everything you do is "so cool", if you go in a moderate route the feedback is like "oh yeah you so managed to convince the people to protest against that evil Dick" and if you go full looting and rioting the feedback is like "Oh yeah you are really socking against it those capitalists", it's pretty much impossible to not get the 5% PV ending, and if somehow you cheat to lose you are treated to a "oh woe is he, now he's so sad and depressed" pity party of an ending.
>>1782416My favorite thing from the proposal about Yock and Hall though is that they cut Yockey from being le unrealism and then devote at least a full page towards explaining how actually, Gus Hall getting into office on a technicality is very realistic.>>1782418There is nothing special to them. He gets in and then nothing happens outside of some pointless insinuations unless they lied in the proposal. Closest thing to something interesting is the Nixon route which at least has the possibility of being accidentally based.>>1782419I really wish these niggers would've stuck to writing fanfics in this shitty VN service instead of reworking an entire HOI4 mod people actually liked into a really shitty iteration of that awful thing.
All I want is a Putinist Goering path where all ideology of the NSDAP dies a slow death by becoming nothing more than a baton to keep people in line while the nation becomes a mess of German siloviks (megacorps, militarists and regional party chiefs) bickering for power while the Fuhrer has to mediate between them all. Obviously, an early 2WRW is the ultimate conclusion of this path, fought with an army that on paper looks good but ends up being shit, thus failing at a fast victory and getting bogged down when the OFN support for the unifier kicks in.
>>1782527cringe parallelism
>>1782527>another tired attempt to turn this into /uhg/ vs /chug/
>>1782392Wait till you find out what was scheduled for release last year
>>1782336All you assumed about me is wrong. I don't know who hbomberguy is and I consider NV the best game in the series. It's just a fact that many of these people like Ulysses and want to sound like him. If this offends you you're free to go back to discord (which you obviously come from).>>1782351Feeling called out?
>>1782545S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2?
>>1782527>ruzzia is le badokay go away now /k/edditor
>>1782527TNO's Putin is Arnold "fuck your freedom" Schwarzenegger.
>>1782383Nixon forging a 4+ term personalist dictatorship Watchmen-style (after defeating a last-ditch return from JFK, who alternatively is also a full Arthuriana path) is more interesting than the entirety of release US content. Add on Schlafly having an actually all-American fascist path (or a collapse that goes through 6 presidents in a row before the election), Hall causing a constitutional crisis, and Goldwater revitalizing conservatism before declassifying UFOs and Yippie! is pure kino. I trust the plan, so I have full faith in Mango's USA. Either it'll fizzle out and the shitty US we have now will remain, or they'll release it and surpass it instantly (if they don't do a dumb demo).
>>1782781>NixonBased on Mango's other writing it'll just be him seething and the best thing you can hope for is it being based on accident throughout the endless moralizing.>The hacking unwholesome person Mango dislikes becomes pre-release Thatcher or you get a revolving door of disasters like they planned for Bormann way backAgain, best thing I'm willing to hope for is it being based by accident because I know anything fun will be punished in-game and moralized over in endless shitty events.>GoldwaterI'll give you that one, his content seemed fun and it's less likely to be politicized into unplayability.>... Unless it's a demo.Yeah you know as well as me that it's going to be a staggered release like Germany at best and that's if they release at all over the next year or three.
>>1782556People thinking that Ulysses is deeper than he actually is and its consequences has been a disaster for mankind.
>>1782781>This is my screenshotLmao, people really liked AK-Shukshin, huh
>>1782556>>1782799How can people not tell that Ulysses is a dumbass tribal who can't grasp the fact that accidents happen and sometimes people die entirely at random with no greater story behind it?Oh, and the fact he's coping, seething and projecting HARD on Courier 6? BEAR BULL BEAR BULL BURN AWAY THE FLAGS YOU ARE A MONSTER FOR DESTROYING A BUDDING NATION LIKE THE DIVIDE says the former Legion scout who triggered Caesar's obsession with Hoover Dam by finding it, got Elijah obsessed with the Sierra Madre and thus indirectly caused a bunch of deaths and/or the destruction of New California (non canon, at least with it being destroyed by a rando vault tec guy with a nuke instead of the Cloud), almost broke the Think Tank out of their loops, which would have been very, very bad for the Wasteland, armed and trained the White Legs and sent them to destroy New Canaan, another budding nation emerging from the ruins of the wasteland, then proceeded to seethe at them for copying a symbol they didn't understand (while wearing an American flag on his back, you know, the symbol of the corrupt, authoritarian, borderline quasi-fascist state of the Old World?) and then ultimately trying to use nukes to blow up a part of whichever faction Courier 6 sides with out of spite, while trying to make some big ideological excuse for his spergout, grandstanding about burning away le flags despite ultimately being a contrarian piece of shit who's trying to justify the unjustifiable, all because a mailman did his fucking job and unintentionally delivered an armed nuke detonator that he couldn't have possibly known was one.
>>1782836>How can people be retarded?Boggles the mind.
can you NVfags not derail the thread for the love of Nixon
>>1782855TNO was originally inspired by fallout and had fallout style ending slides
>>1782863and that REALLY matters here
Weld is greedy, texan, bitchy, arrogant, and overall just an asshole.
>decide to start a new 2WRW campaign>the day after the main mod updates>doesn't even add any real content yet it breaks 2WRW anywayI hate this fucking mod so much it's unreal
>>1783062oy vey dont complain about our realistic mod and eat ze rework
>>1783062Which updates? Been weeks since it got updated updated>>1782863Wut, TNO never had ending slides, after all, no campaign was ever finished til now
>>1783062Isn't this tied to a Paradox update? Wouldn't really blame anyone for it then.>>1783072IIRC it was a demo thing from way back in the day, not the main mod.
>>1783054He also has chimpouts in public
>>1782574Russia is badgo away now cum/chug/ger
>>1783249>>1782574
So how total is the Reichstaat's TND if played by a player? Can you literally depopulate the middle of Africa if you know how to play it well?
>>1782376>Salazar>falls in bathtub>goes into coma>comes out of coma>nobody tells him he was removed from power>family pretends he's still ruling from home to keep him happyunbelievably funny
>>1783655From what I know the Reichstaat could be perpetuated in a previous update, but I'm not sure whether this is still the case.
>>1782376>>1783659I hope there is an actual "shadow council" like under Panzer developing actual content for the mod and throwing out all of the shitty reworks the leads are coming up with out of their asses, because at this rate nothing will ever get done.
>>1784048Larpy, high school tier politicking like that in stead of actually working on the mod is the actual reason for why the development has been stalled, brainiac.
TNO's Reddit is celebrating Pride month in style.>>1784059You're correct. The leads effectively are this shadow council the other anon is talking about. Except instead of getting anything done they're scheming about team politics and planning reworks and counter-reworks away from the dev server.
tranny modtranny thread
>>1784076>How is the hiv pandemic in the tno verse?If they go through with implementing the Brazilian tranny's event that got posted in the last thread, I'm sure it's in full swing.>1784108Kaiserfags and brony shills are not sending their best.
>>1784076So who exactly is working on the mod, if both the dev team and the 'shadow council' are reworking things?
>>1784266Consider the release frequency and I think you can make an educated guess.
wait a fucking minute is the lead dev of tno the same mango that made totp???
>>1784426What's TOTP?If it's something related to Campaign Trail then probably he copes and seethes about his hated and unwanted views there all the time.
>>1784108>tranny modAccurate, because since the dev change the mod did a 51% and it's rotting
Have they worked on any Great Trial content?
>>1784540HUEHUWHEUEHSHUEHUEHUEHUUHUHUEIf not even 2RW devs managed to bake Yazov yet, do you even TNO devs are even close to that?
Just want a crumb of Balkan content.
>9 Months and still no updates.> ITS WRONG DUDE ITS FUCKING RIGGED, THE TRANNIES HATE ME DUDE WHERES MY CONTENT DUDE?>it's been MONTHS AT THIS BITCH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MRS PANZERRR OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH> WHERE'S MY UPDATES YOU RIGGERS TOLD ME LAST YEAR WE WOULD HAVE MEXICO AND BRAZIL WHERE THE FUCK IS IT
>>1784213What's wrong with the brony mod apart from the pony setting? From what I experienced it has fuck ton of varied content.
>>1784442>>1784442oh shit yeshttps://www.reddit.com/r/TotPmod/Every fucking teaser is made by Mango's reddit account
>>1784829since it involves equines and birds instead of actual hoomans it allows writers and modders significantly unfettered leeway in making certain 'gamer' plots and paths possible without offending anyone or violating paradox TOS. Youve literally got genocidal zebras and bird schutzstaffel so its worth it
>>1784540No and they never will either, I am fairly certain they said they are not gonna add any war with Germany stuff for Russia until TNO2, which is literally never coming out.>>1784873I think the literal magic also makes a lot of interesting stuff possible, like Sirenalia which is probably the best path in the game.
>>1784768Bossman is better at holding on to money than the TNO devs are at releasing content and he does less damage to his room than the TNO devs do their lore by reworking everything from scratch all the time. Let that sink in.>the devs are all rats
>>1782787>if they release at all over the next year or three.the next year or three being 2031-2034
>>1781283>>1781288Baker anon here. Should I keep doing TNO meme decision categories in my bakes? Do you have any ideas for future ones you think might be fun?
>>1781283So what mod do I grab if I want to experience TNO for the first time in Anno Domini 2024? I get that content was removed so what should I download, what has been fixed? I find the setting is a cool vibe and I want to mess around with things.
>>1785152Just download the real version from the workshop and get the Second West Russian War submods. It's bugged right now due to an update in TNO but it adds 70s content for various Russian unifiers and will be fixed within a week. Russia is basically the only place worth playing rn, everything else is a screensaver or is being rewoooorked from the ground up.The OG version from Panzers account is still playable and is listed as outdated and requires you to revert to an earlier version of hoi.Also don't play it desu, it's not fun any more and everything cool you heard about has either been deleted or is being deleted. The magic is gone and all there is to look forward to are endless reworks that promise shittier content. Seriously, why bother?
is it true the mods are trannies? Can you share some screenshot proving it?
>>1781283>Tranny>Nigger>Orgywhy is there a general for this garbage?
>>1785164Containment thread.
>>1785159>Also don't play it desu, it's not fun any more and everything cool you heard about has either been deleted or is being deletedso I can't do stupid stuff like play Burgund and larp as weird esoteric knight?
>>1785170They removed a lot of the wacky stuff from it and are working on deleting the entire tag as part of a French update that has been rebooted twice (that we know of) and is probably never releasing.So yeah, this is the state of things. Seriously, most of us don't play the mod any more and just come here to bitch about the devs being retarded faggots that ruined something we used to like.
>>1785176>panzer leaves the team>TNO civil war begins>pacifica wins>pacifica also leaves>the TNO anarchy begins, TNO crippled by endless reworks, never to publish an update againFVCKING KINO
>>1784829>But other than that, how was the play, Mr.Lincoln?>>1784986Holy shit I hate this tno 2 meme>Yeah, instead of slowly developing content for most important players and give a proper finale for them we can just say "tno 2 lol" and that's it. Yeah, don't worry, they'll get content once we are done with everyone (an exercise in futility due to endless reworks)
>>1785277>I hate this tno 2 memeI can see SOME sort of logic, you can't really progress the timeline after a certain point without deciding what big events that affect the world happen (Oil Crisis, Burgundy getting nukes, fake events to make the world look alive like the Afrikkka collapse), but at the same time, I'd rather have 10 more years of Speer where only Germany has anything going on rather than having 2 years of Speer where the world looks "alive" because of scripted events. 2WRW kind of does this, but it's pretty shitty for any nation that isn't the one Ruzzian unifier with content, and even then, the post-war content is too rushed.
>>1785162Panzer is a troon and several devs are tranny niggers who write garbage events.>1785164Go back, Kaisernigger.>>1785277>>1785287You can thank the plebbitors for making it into a meme, now the devs can always just deflect to it whenever they get called out for wasting their time developing shit no one wants to play
>>1785310this picture is gemmy
>>1785287At least get content for important nations up amd running. Yeah, that means most of the world "dies", but that's a secondary problem. Maybe throw a few events and leader changes and you're golden>>1785310I am pretty sure it came from the devs
DEAD MODLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>1786114Is this one fucking phrase the only thing Kaiserniggers get paid (a fat paycheque of zero) to spam?
>>1786114YWNBAW, now fuck off back to whatever shill discord trooncave you crawled out of.
>>1786118>>1786161The mod is dead though and the devs killed it. All we're getting this year is a few years of Ukraine, a Mexican screensaver and retards like Corn bragging about how many tags they'll rework from scratch. How anyone can still care is unfathomable to me.
>>1786118>>1786161Defending TNO? Why? The devs hate your guts.
>>1786186>>1786249You can like a product and hate its creator (or in this case the people currently in charge of making it, I hate both LonelyNiggress and the current dev team but at least Panzer actually got shit done). I'm sick of nigger shills who try to derail the thread and spam useless shit.
>>1786251>>1786186BUT THE MOD....ITS....DEADITS A DEAD MOOOOODHAHAHAHAHA
>>1786251While I agree that you can like a product whilst disliking the people making it, the total silence and incompetence from the dev team has made any interest in the mod a waste of time.Also, just ignore the shills. Don't bother engaging with them
>>1784490>51%You're mixing up your statistic memes.The trans suicide rate one is 41%, (13)51 is Black crime rates.
>>1786785isn't the tranny suicide rate at like 50% now despite increasing acceptance of trannies outside of right-wing circles
>>1786789https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284551812_Impacts_of_Strong_Parental_Support_for_Trans_Youth?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6Il9kaXJlY3QiLCJwYWdlIjoiX2RpcmVjdCJ9fQ
>>1787428This reads like a caricature of how TNO devs see people that hate the mod. It's so tryhard and out of touch that it could only be born out of their echo chamber of a dev server. Either that, or it's a troll from the community. 0% chance this is real.
>>1786851“Didn’t take confounding variables into account”
>>1781283>>1781288Is the new Moskowien rework doc real or was that just a rumor from the last thread? If it is real, are they also deleting OP's 100+ page mechanics doc?
>>1786851tl;dr how is "supportiveness" defined?is it literally just "blow sunshine up my ass and call me a good girl or I'll try to kill myself" type of thing?
>>1787428Did a ten year old from NPPfunny write this? This looks like everything wrong with all of those previous redux attempts where ten year olds get "trolled" by trannies who join and ask their opinion on trans rights or some bullshit like that. Retarded kids who set themselves up for failure.
daily reminder that this is a dead mod btw
Important, by <@793610944034504744> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13sQO4BU2pssTRLH0NWsMSQQj_69xj7w7e-mrJqLMXhEdo tno troons really
>>1788167>A juvenile document that just says "don't use slurs" over and over>This is an official style guide Guess this confirms Mongo having a mental breakdown over the Brazilian writer trying to make the event posted in the last thread seem more lifelike. Looking forward to George Wallace being respectful towards the negros out of a deep concern not to offend the noble Africans.
>>1788167Notice how this has no content
>>1788167is this real? holy fuck this is hilarious
>>1787428the obsession about trannies is real, i dont get it even, TNO always had trannies what's the point complaining now?
>>1788317See >>1787440
>>1788167>>1788314i asked a dev friend of mine and he said it's true, i love this mod
>>1788167Please leak the Moskowien rework doc instead so I can be disappointed about that instead of the fact that they probably argued for dozens of hours about what amounted to a parody of their "work".
>>1788185>brazilian trans dev writes transphobic content in an event>mango has a mental breakdown over the fact that transphobia includes slursIt's beyond parody at this point
I never thought I'd say this but I'm missing the days of Pacifica and the commiewank. It was shit but it was way better than this milquetoast progressivism and actively anti-fun design.I mean for fuck's sake, you actually expect me to believe the events of hardliner Wallace or YOCKEY wouldn't have slurs?
>>1788730all things considered the content dropped under Pacifica was not bad at all
>>1788730>YockeyHe isn't going to use any slurs because he's being cut along with all far-right content (Wallace isn't even far-right any more since they completely neutered him by giving him a liberal VP that stops him from doing anything "unrealistic").Hall can still become president despite the NPP being cut in the rework because Mango agrees with his views. Enjoy.>PacificaPacifica gave us Komi, the current fags are giving us milquetoast liberalism and endless reworks. It's only a matter of time before they cut Tabby for being unrealistic.
>>1788755if they cut Tabby people are going to be mad, hopefully the sword of damocles will drop on them
>>1788755Why would he choose a liberal VP?
>>1788776something something, appeal to moderates something something liberalshit
>>1788755>Wallace isn't even far-right any more since they completely neutered him by giving him a liberal VP that stops him from doing anything "unrealistic"What the actual fuck? "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" means nothing anymore?Komi is peak TNO honestly.
>>1788779Komi is an unlikely but plausible unstable republic with many different options, all of which can be both silly or serious depending on what you want, sincerely what TNO should be about. TNO is a un realistic but plausible scenario where you go through a path which can be both silly and serious
>>1788761Well they cut Burgundy, made Goering and Heydrich unplayable until at least 2027, are cutting everything anyone cared about from America, are reworking Sverdlovsk and Aryan Brotherhood from scratch, plan to remove the Reichsstaat and much, much more. Whether any of these were justified doesn't matter, the point is that they'll happily cut iconic content without a care in the world.Just you wait. Corn will announce that Komi will be skeletonized sooner or later and he'll revel in how hated he'll become.>>1788776>>1788777>>1788779He doesn't choose it, it was something about him ending up with a VP on a technicality or something, I forget. It was in the Vote Pig proposal. His whole run would essentially be you trying to have an uphill struggle against the "voices of reason" in your cabinet trying to stop Wallace from becoming Adolf Drumpfler and even if he went as far as possible it'd end with him only barely postponing anti-racism for a few years and that nature would heal eventually. It's the most boring shit ever.It was a very long time since I read it so I may be misremembering parts of it but that's the gist of his arc.
>>1788790God that's fucking retarded.Mango, is America a white supremacist country or not? Why is an arch-segregationist unable to further white supremacy for more than a couple of years?
>>1788779This. Zhdanov was the most fun I've had in all of TNO and the second most fun in HOI4 as a whole after Posada in EAW. Most of the other paths are fantastic too.>>1788793If America is white supremacist (at least at game start) you should have a fucking white supremacist path. I'm all for wholesome paths too, but you gotta have darkness to make fighting for the light worth it.It's the same reason removing Pelley from Kaiserreich was retarded. The literal SECOND AMERICAN CIVIL WAR can't have a fascist take power?
>>1788793>Why is an arch-segregationist unable to further white supremacy for more than a couple of years?He doesn't do that even, you have absolutely no way of fucking up the country to see it burn any more.>y thoBecause it's unrealistic. Which means, Mango would be sad if that happened so it won't happen.>>1788795But anon!They rebranded Huey as a NatPop!Surely that's the same thing as letting a fascist take over?
>>1788795>I'm all for wholesome paths too, but you gotta have darkness to make fighting for the light worth it.No no, you don't understand, if the bad guys can win in any path whatsoever it's chud wish fulfillment and thus has to be cut for being unrealistic.
>>1788793classic american liberal, believes america is racist while simeltaneously believing that america is the shining star of freedom and democracy in the world. your mind on bourgeois ideology.absolutely media-illiterate too, it's absurd how they seem to think that depicting an action is an endorsement of it.
>>1788795You will have vaguely evil Dark Nixon and you will like it.The fact of the matter is Mango can't stand his ideology not winning, even in a game. He made a Gus Hall mod for the campaign trail that's comically easy to win.
>>1788801The worst part is when they feel like they beat you over the head with how bad it is like you're as much of a mentally stunted manchild as Mango & co. You can't just see something bad happen and be able to infer the obvious from it. No, they have to tell you in detail that so and so was a meanie for doing so. It's unbearable. They really love to project their own insecurities onto this mod.>>1788809At least Dark Nixon has a small chance of being accidentally based.
>>1788801Calling Mango a liberal is probably a heavier insult than any slur this thread has thrown at him.
>>1788820I'll fucking say it again: Mango, you are a goddamn liberal. You're not a communist.>No war but class war!You're not even a utopian socialist. You don't focus on building a better world for everyone, you focus on 'fascism' (a nebulous term that is one form capitalism takes under certain material conditions).You are literally just a regular american liberal who likes red. Now read some fucking theory and stop ruining this mod.
>>1788823>Mango>ReadingYou know as well as I do that the milquetoast midwit is never going to put any actual effort into anything in his miserable life.
>>1787550Yes. At every stage of the transition process. It's a hostage situation
Fuck Mango, fuck Calph, fuck Corn, and fuck all the niggers who ruined this mod. I would take Zaborowski and Wakefield back any day of the week even if their insanity was turned up to eleven. At least under those two things actually got done and were interesting. I had some faith in Corn's plans until it became all but clear that nothing he is planning will ever be materialized. I'm so sick of these niggers ruining this mod, under them all of my interest evaporated when they came out with that wet fart that was The Ruin.
Place your bets, anons! June is almost over and the deadline is drawing near (no pressure devs reading this)!Do you think they will:A) Ignore the release date and make their last remaining fans go another month of six without content orB) Shit out an undercooked, broken and bug-ridden mess like Ugly American just to make sure they stay on schedule like a shitty AAA dev?Either way the people that still care about this mod lose! Why? Because we're literally just talking about the release of three years of Mexican screensaver "content" here, that's why!
>>1781283Is there any nation(s) that you wish have a unique focus tree?
>>1788852Burma
>>1788852Burma because I want Burmanon to be happy again. :(
>>1788852Serbia.
>>1788854Thanks anon
>>1788857Burma-senpai noticed me! :)
>>1788852Serbia and Croatia. Simple as
>>1788167Is Mango seriously not intelligent enough to understand the difference between using a slur as a slur or using it in a reclaimed context? Like, does he gasp in horror when he hears black rappers say nigga?>hmm today I will fight transphobia by harassing an actual transgender Brazilian into leaving the team
>>1788896>>hmm today I will fight transphobia by harassing an actual transgender Brazilian into leaving the teamBased if true. The Brazilian tranny in question is literally named Magnus Hirschfeld (named after german jew """psychologist""" and pedophilia advocate, look up his prepubescent chinese boyfriend) and posts about LGBT or trannies every second message in doki, according to someone I know on the team. The event they wrote is also absolute garbage
>>1788730>I never thought I'd say this but I'm missing the days of Pacifica and the commiewank. It was shit but it was way better than this milquetoast progressivism and actively anti-fun design.I said it many times, but I'll say it again, Biden winning was the worst thing that could happen to TNO. It killed the 'Fuck America' Alternative Socialists and led to four years of Bidenist Dev stagnation on the mod until it fucking died
>>1788980>It killed the 'Fuck America' Alternative Socialists and led to four years of Bidenist Dev stagnation on the mod until it fucking diedIs that what happened? I was under the impression the anti-US commies got purged from the team by the socdems and liberals. Either way though, I'd rather have those commies running the team then these fucking bidenists.
>>1788904Missing the forest for the trees. You still have hundreds of them left but now they a corporate mandate to make all the thousands of LGBTQ events they write completely sanitized slop so we won't even have anything funny to laugh at.>>1788980That is pretty thonk-provoking actually, anon. The TV telling them to think that Biden is based and then constantly attacking a liberal globalist from the left is going to damage their brain in less funny ways than having the TV tell them to think that America is the Fifth Reich because Adolf Drumpfler won the election.
>>1788980it's always the "feel good" liberal, it's the idea that harsh treatements never work under any circumstance, that you have to wait for the revolution like a good bordigist! that if socialists dont win it's our fault! we didnt convince enough people! that's the style of (((socialism))) these people advocate for. their stories are as bland as their worldview
>>1789085>it's the idea that harsh treatements never work under any circumstanceunless you're a boomer who walked into the capitol after the gates were opened from the inside in which case you're getting thrown into a special political prison to be tortured by the (black) guards
Whats the current state of speer path? I played years ago and i remember seething about gang of four being a bunch of niggers
>>1789292Stuck in rework hell like everything else. The dev that was working on it has left the team over drama and it's currently being worked on by the dumb fag that does Bormann.You didn't miss much lmao.
>>1789305I like that the entire new Dev team seethed hard at Speer because they are all unimaginative Bormannite thinkers who get legitimate angry when people criticize bureaucracy
>>1789305What the fuck, is there literally anything in this mod that they either didnt touch to "rework" or actually completed? How the fuck can you waste 3 years and have less content to show for it than there was before you touched the fucking thing?
>>1789329>Did anything get completedNot really. Guangdong is the only example people generally agree is good and is also the only complete tag. Ukraine, Britain and many other things that were added only have partial content and that also goes for new releases like Mexico (releasing this month allegedly) which is also three years without any actual content.>How can they have less content nowThey decided to rework all of Germany and America from scratch with a constantly changing definition of realism as the goal. Then most of the reworks get rebooted endlessly because one rework leads to another and many people either give up and quit or get purged along the way leading to - you guessed it - more reworks.Case in point: an anon posted an image in the last thread detailing the eight reworks Moskowien has had and there are currently rumors of a ninth Moskowien rework and the current Russia lead wants to rework every tag in the country. Things are really fucking bad.
>>1789305well... i didnt particularly enjoy Speer so hopefully they make it better, right?
>>1789305>The dev that was working on it has left the team over dramaWas it Janey? What happened?
>>1788823You're the guys who invented using antifascism as a sledgehammer to beat everyone else with, since well before the popular front(s) times. Who are you kidding marxoid?Captcha: 4TNDY
>>1789375Someone mentioned here that it was over how they got rid of Ashley. Can't verify but the timeline makes sense.in b4 Ashley stans rise up
>>1789396I thought Ashley was working on Manchukuo
>>1789399See >>1781406 for the current state of Machukuo.
>>1789420I heard Yugo is the last guy who still works on Manchukuo but most of the retarded leads like Corn and Mango force him to waste his time devving their stupid reworks no one wants.
>>1789426They completely hate him so he's probably not getting anything done there by himself, don't know why he stays on.
Is there any good Chinese states?
>>1789336Can they just, you know, make actual progress for once? In four years, EAW made a whole new continent and multiple nations with years worth of content, while TNO made NEGATIVE progress.
>>1789646EAW is either an anomaly, or pony autism at work.
>>1789648TNO is actually the anomaly. Everything else actually makes progress such as OWB and KX. Just removing content like when KR recently cut an entire ACW path over politics is also very uncommon yet we see it all the time in TNO. I think people have just become accustomed to how utterly awful TNO is and forget that the grass is literally greener on the other side.
Antarctica if you can hear us, please Antarctica, please save us, please save us Antarctica please I’m asking you. Please save TNO please purge these retard trannies out of the dev team please DEAR GOD TNO IS STUCK IN DEVELOPMENT PLEASE BECOME OUR CEASER PLEASE SAVE US.
>>1789773If you're talking about the Antarctica lead he'll never do shit because Mango's clique runs the mod and they're not gonna let someone just barge in and introduce concepts like "sanity" and "releasing content" to the mod.Reminder that Operation Deep Freeze's integration to TNO has taken several years and slowed down the actual release of ODF content. TNO really has a Midas touch of pure shit.
>>1789771meds
>>1789983updates
>>1789983Dead Mod.
>>1790043troon >>1790157shill
>>1788904I have yet to see xer chimp out in the community server, has anyone tried interacting with xer?
>>1790338Why don't you try making fun of their event on the pleb server
>>1790334Cope
