Hololive gave ex-holos a network of people to do cute things with.With it gone, they all feel so terribly lonely now.Not as in they can never collab ever again, but as in, their lives no longer revolve around other people.Hololive is like an anime high school in that way. Even if you don't watch most hololive members, they will always keep appearing and be talked about by the members that you DO watch. You always feel like you're in the company of a warm family, especially when it comes to off-collabs.Without that enivornment, the magic is gone.
Sneed.
>>104680596Feel the same way. With each graduation it only gets worse. Like Marine, ever since Rushia left she hasn't been the same anymore. But then again, it could also be because most of Hololive are north of 30 now. There are even a couple in their 40's.
>>104680834>most of Hololive are north of 30 nowI won't believe it
>>104680596I don't care. I just watch my oshi anyways.
>>104680596You just found out why ex-holos recline 40%
So after the Vshojo schizo now we are at the corposlave schizo. Good to know you guys take timeslots.
>>104681833>quotes their own post for the 400th time to desperately try to bring an unrelated chuuba into a discussion... again.
>>104680596I would love to find out what tf happened to the funny shark in 2022-2023 that turned her in such a loner, she didn't use to be like this and the current fish is just a continuation of 2023-2025 Gura, i thought she would collab with other people often now but nope
>>104681833Fuck off brownfeet
>>104680596That restrictive and regulated environment is what fucking sucks about hololive. Anyone leaving that shithole to continue streaming as indie is better off for it.
>>104682269Eh, not OP but to play devil's advocate, some people just like the company, treating it like a tv channel to watch whoever's on, and couldn't give a shit about any talent in particular. However, applying this to Saba, Dooby, or Nimi is just insane since all 3 of them were complete islands and rarely if ever interacted with the rest of the group to begin with. There's nothing really to lose for actual viewers or fans of those 3.
>>104682269>That restrictive and regulated environment is what fucking sucksHololive taught me that chuubas are more likeable under an oppressive moral code that limits what they can say and do.
>>104682574Anon that applies to literally any media. Just look at Disney.
>>104680596I mean yes obviously, chumbuds or whatever they're now called will call you a schizo because for hardcore fans solo content was the best thing especially since Gura was always too silent but she lost the casuals, drop in CCV and VOD views confirms that. She's just kinda boring even when streaming on a regular basis first time in years there is nothing memorable it's all slop.
>>104682180she was always a loner 2020-21 was an anomaly, the happiest time in her life she said that but then got bored or something and stopped trying, perhaps she got too much support for simply existing and that derailed her character easy come easy go.
>>104682848>chumbuds or whatever they're now calledpedophiles
>>104680865Hags shall inherit the Earth.
>>104681833trvke
>>104680596Weird since I think the magic is gone in HoloEn now too. More like people want to care about something but need someone to attach them too it. I used to give everyone a try even if I didn’t like them that much but now I don’t watch either. The magic was having both together
>>104682848I agree but fuck when I go and look at HoloEn to try and get back into it it all feels so fake. The weird interactions and all the “fake” shit (they were simply human) nijifags and vshojofags kept screeching about isn’t there anymore. Instead it feels like all the shit those two keep boasting their corpos had and ended up being fake. The forced shilling makes it even worse since they don’t even play act it but do it all drone like
>>104681833>still able to hit 9k on a gaming stream without bots and raids like HoloENMy oshi has still got it
>>104680596Sure but Hololive ITSELF isn't the same. It's not an anime class anymore at all.
the only thing hololive, and any company gives, is a target for the audience to complain towards when the vtuber does something they dont like
>>104684252Kek
>>104680596Sure doesn't help Saba's case that she's too socially retarded to make connections with new people so she's basically stuck with just Dooby and Nimi as her only collab partners forever, unless someone graduates.Meanwhile the JP ex-holos seem unable and/or unwilling to consolidate as a group, there have barely been any collabs there. If they don't stick together there really won't be anything special about them, they'll be the same as every other indie and just get lost in the crowd.
>>104680596collabs suck
>>104685134/thread
>>104685134Autism issue
>>104683475Am I too ESL to understand what this anon is trying to say?
>>104684252>without botslol, also check her average again
>>104680865facts don't care about believe or not believe.
