>>108118977
>hit 1465 yen
Anon, it's Monday morning

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>>108118977
It has been discussed before.

Current upper management is either malignant, negligent or incompetent.
For some reason Yagoo can't seem to replace those fools, so they're at a stalemate.

>grad live lower numbers than Coco's
>less buzz throughout her grad tour
Blue leech was a leech after all

Back to /#/ where you belong
God stockfaggots are obnoxious

>>108118977
>What do you think will happen next?
What always happens, the shareholders force out the only good people left in the company's upper level positions, and have them all replaced with soulless corpodrones that will only focus on immediate "number go up" decisions.

Anyone else blackpilled as fuck from all the demoralization?

>>108118977
Neglecting EN/ID and putting all the pressure on JP cause Japanese pride or whatever back fired so badly when Cover was trying to grow.

>>108119167
>investors demanding answers about the wellbeing of talents
>UHHHHHH ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS NUMBERS AND YOUR MONEY?!!!

>stockshit
Nijinigger detected

>>108119244
Employees in executive positions in the company are the ones forcing talents out.
They may or may not be shareholders, but I think they have other ways to leverage power over Yagoo.

>>108118977
>What do you think will happen next?
Nothing. Cover is notorious in JP for not giving a fuck about their investors

>>108119548
Which is apparently why they're running the company into the ground.

>>108119564
Wait until Hololive stops being the most popular VTubing group first

>>108119589
I don't care about popularity, dumb numberfaggot.

>>108119285
Investors do not care about the wellbeing of talent by nature. They only care about their money

>>108119602
Well, Cover and the girls do, and they have more than enough money so why should they care about investors? Heck, as long as Yagoo and his COO + friends still keep the majority of the shares, investors basically have no influence over the company (which is one of the common complaints about Cover from investors too)

>>108119076
>upper management
>>>>>>>>>>upper
You have no idea how a business is structured eh

>>108119646
Those "investors" are working in the company right now.
Yagoo's invincible "friends" is why Kanata is graduating.

>>108119652
Upper management, as in they're not talent managers, retard.

the "homework" has always seemed like some bullshit, especially when it keeps the girls from streaming. What's the point of having managers?

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>>108119564
>Which is apparently why they're running the company into the ground.
Can you guys makes up your minds? Are investors bad or good?
You can't peddle "Yagoo/Cover is a powerless figurehead who's slave to the desires of the investor" AND "Yagoo/Cover ignoring the prying demands of the investor is running the company into ground!" at the same time anonchama
Further why is this dumbfuck minority shareholder "expressing concerns" in regards to member who everyone knew had a degenerative illness that limited her time in the company from Day-1?

>>108119685
>>108119704
You don't know how companies work. Go back to /lig/.

>>108119729
>You can't peddle [...] at the same time
The investors working inside Cover Corp. are the ones being differentiated.
Yagoo is described as powerless because he can't juggle making high-level executive decisions and micromanaging 80+ talents at the same time.
That's the point of executive-level management, a few of which likely didn't get there through purely meritocratic means, which is why they're not being replaced.
>minority shareholder
Being a minority shareholder doesn't mean you have no leverage over the CEO. Just owning 1-2% of stocks can allow you to exert pressure, especially when you're working inside the company and/ or are a creditor.
That's besides the point if the person in the OP is meant to represent a small fry looking for a quick return.

>>108119915
Boring troll.

>>108119513
I think they are and thats why he cant just fire them because they would 100% sell their shares

>>108118977
I like the paradoxical demands of
>you're working them too hard
and
>you're not working them hard enough
Shareholders should be executed.

>>108119945
What company are you talking about? Because you've invented a corporate structure out of thin air and are pretending that cover is whipping thier talents or something. If what you said was true you could post a name and face to your accusations.

>>108119589
I went to Shinjuku Station, which is among if not THE busiest in the world, and the huge screens along the walls and pillars were showing ads for an upcoming Nijisanji concert, and with their male livers no less. Face it, Niji has more of a domestic foothold and that's all Japanese people care about.

>>108120001
Him thinking shareholders have any pressure is funny too. They have repeatedly told them they ain't getting shit, especially when one suggested they lower talent compensation to niji levels to the executives can be higher paid than the talents "because it looks bad if the CEO isn't the most compensated employee" lmao.

>>108120020
Oh, this guy made the thread. Makes sense now, he's an anti from the nijisanji Fandom who goes out of his way to dismiss anything said about niji and attack hololive, he has no grip on reality. Pack it up guys.

>>108120020
They paid for ads, good job? Hololive instantly sells out any event they do in Japan without buying ads, although they do buy those same ad spaces when holo fes/expo come around.

>>108119076
>For some reason Yagoo can't seem to replace those fools
>own 40% of the share
do u really believe it?

>>108120020
>>the huge screens along the walls and pillars were showing ads for an upcoming Nijisanji concert, and with their male livers no less
>>Face it, Niji has more of a domestic foothold
>Nijisanji being more willing to shell out the money to buy ads = more popular domestically
Lmao

>>108119704
>What's the point of having managers?
for the managers to make money without working
it's your typical adult daycare center

>>108120122
Having a majority (or in this case plurality) amount of shares doesn't make you an absolute monarch.
Formally, he can hire or fire whoever he wants.
Effectively, he is bound to a set of rules, agreements, promises not to sell shares, and relationships that can tear his company apart if he uses overreach.

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>>108118977
>you should work your employees hard so they make a fuck ton of money
>but not too hard that they quit

how about handling the acknowledged issue that there's an active and determined leaker inside your fucking company? hire a red team to perform stenography or something and flush him out.

>>108119076
Cover has been incompetent from the start, every bit of success Hololive has had has not been because of a good strategy by Cover. A good example of this is all the little groups Cover has tried to make work, things like the Witches and Umisea, you could even chuck Orio in the mix which should have been a no brainer to work yet they all flopped. Meanwhile Shiraken which started as two 30+ year old Japanese women simply playing Minecraft at 3am in the morning has flourished.

>>108120020
It’s almost like they’ve paid for ads for an upcoming concert, do you really think there won’t be ads for HoloFes in February and March? Do you not understand how marketing works?

>>108120327
>acknowledged issue that there's an active and determined leaker inside your fucking company
This doesn't exist tho, so that'll be very difficult
Forever anons took Kanata being a paranoid schizo and crafted an entire narrative around

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>>108118977
>watame called the fuck out by shareholder

>>108120648
It's a little sad there wasn't more unity but that's not really the most valuable takeaway.
>why did this talent have to leave?

>>108119988
Kanata said that she had to take on tasks that were not meant for her.
She tried to escalate it to management multiple times, and they just nodded their heads.

This is textbook incompetence that needs to be rooted out, but very likely won't.

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>pasta line
I like this one

>>108120725
There isn't any simple and fast solutions there.
Getting more new managers take time (which Kanata herself admitted that they have been putting efforts in). The other simple solution would be rescheduling or cutting down unnecessary / non-mandatory work (aka all her personal projects) which she didn't want to and negotiated with them to be allowed to keep working herself.

>>108120238
>Having a majority (or in this case plurality) amount of shares doesn't make you an absolute monarch.
It does if you have voting control. Infact the only metric that matters is voting power.

>>108120777
Shouldn't her 'personal projects' (music) define most of her activity? Sincere question

>>108119076
>For some reason Yagoo can't seem to replace those fools, so they're at a stalemate.
Yagizzle isn't your friendizzle, he hasn't replaced them because they're either close confidants or he never had the power to replace them in the first place since a CEO isn't a king. The mistake you made from the beginning since hololive got popular with reddit was buying into "yagoo chungus" memes because they were useful for the company for you to believe that shit.

>>108119076
>upper management is either malignant, negligent or incompetent
Investor put them in I guess

>>108120725
>This is textbook incompetence that needs to be rooted out, but very likely won't.
no, that's textbook bullying

>>108120827
Hololive was also essentially pushed upon Cover by Sora and A-Chan, it was nothing but tech engineers in 2017 when they came looking for VR tech. Cover was not created as a talent agency. Maybe that explains some things too. Do they have any higher level management with that kind of background?

Why do Nijidrones love writing walls of text so much?

>>108119244
Yagoo owns the controlling shares, shareholders can only force out their farts. And the dude in the image owns 0.02%. Cover is also not paying out any dividends, so small investors who joined in are retarded and should not be trusted.

>>108120917
It's funny, most fans liked Hololive because the content was different from standard media/TV programs. It doesn't take an expert to know how to not burden your talents with excess work.

>>108120824
You should ask her, she's the one who agreed to working on company projects.
It's difficult to judge how much work any given project will yield, so she overworked herself and doesn't trust herself that she'll avoid overworking again.

There is a rrat going around that accepting projects enables unofficial privileges like being able to use the studio and the ability to co-ordinate personal projects with Cover Corp.

Funny that even investors care more about the well-being of talents than modern holodrones.

>>108120824
Depends on how you see it - not quite. Cover hired her so the official projects started and organized by them should be of the highest priority
If anything, Cover (or VTuber agencies in general) is pretty lenient compared to traditional JP talent / idol agencies where you see idols / artists barely get to pursue any personal projects

>>108120824
>>108121558 (Me)
I forgot to add, but just for clarification: "personal projects" here doesn't mean all and every projects related to the talent (i.e: Kanata in this case). "Personal projects" are only projects started by the talents themselves (instead of the company).

>>108118977
>shareholders
kys nijifaggots

>>108119076
A big issue Cover has is that they're cheap as fuck when it comes to paying staff, so competent/talented staff members either get peter principal'd or go to another company that will pay them well.

>>108121489
*coverdrones
the thirdies who hang out in /#/ and the doxx/drama discords do not like hololive, they like cover

>>108122289
They have their salaries listed on their careers page, so that lie won't work.
https://cover-corp.com/recruit/career

>>108118977
>check this faggot twitter
>not a single post about vtubers

>>108122534
He is an investor, why should he care?
He basically represents what normal people see and they aren't looking at hololive fondly anymore

>>108118977
>another twitter screencap thread of some literal who schizo larping as a shareholder
>post is still up

>>108118977
who the fuck would ever take seriously these greedy faggots who literally ask yagoo publically in their q&a
>hey yagoosan can greatly reduce the talent's cuts so we can give ourselves fat dividends please

Best girl Yagoo has a hard life…

>>108122714
that's because you are trans

Took them this long to figure out management in the company is fucked huh.

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Someone speaking sense.

>>108119729
Nijishills when stocks are high: Investors good. Look at our stocks Holodrones. Your company socks.
Nijishills when stocks were in the gutter; Who cares about investors? Nothing is wrong.

Like clockwork.

>>108119285
Losing talent is not good for business. As much as I hate it, we might actually need the shareholders to forcefully unretarded the management.

>older seniors can't be fired or replaced even if they're dumb as a rock and have made several catastrophic decisions
classic problem in jap society

>Still using grok's translator
Into the trash it goes

>stockslop
God, this shit is so horrendously dull. Why the fuck would you even make this thread OP? Are you that much of a fucking soulless husk that this....THIS is what you want to talk about? For fuck sakes, genuinely get a new fucking hobby cause you've clearly lost the plot. I genuinely can't imagine caring more about stockslop about vtubers than actually watching them

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>>108122549
>investor
>normal people
You are at least 4 types of retarded.

>>108123243
But that’s exactly the opposite of the real problem. Cover management is full of techbros who have never had to manage anyone.

>>108123243
Making threads/posting about random twitter niggers tweets should be a rape-able offense. Especially if they're about stocks. I want every /#/homo to be beheaded, their corpses defiled by rabid dogs and murderhobos, and their hollowed-out skulls to be used as cum punchbowls

>>108123458
To be fair A-chan was also a techbro with no managing experience

>>108123290
Too fucking real
>t. worked in a jap game dev company for 10 years

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>>108123243
old take, Cover stopped spamming scripted TV variety slop