People keep saying it’s Suisei or Watame or Miko but Occam’s razor says that Kanata was referring to Marine being the person that is hard to work with and unable to put their feelings aside.We all saw the sharp contrast between how frequently Kanata and Marine used to interact to then basically never talking, even though both of them are in similar friend groups and holo projects (witches). We know that Kanata had flirty interactions with Ao, who Marine then obv got jealous over. Ao then gets fired after Kanata’s decision to quit is made, and then Kanata quits.I feel like this is all pretty straightforward compared to the schizo Miko secret boyfriend producer who controls everything from the shadows theory
What?
Fuck you
>>108240584both left Hololive already, right?
>>108240584>ESL thread title>not knowing what Occam’s razor means >implying holo projects mean anything whatsoever >schizo yuritard fanfiction >8:30 AM Jakarta time
>>108240584>Lives in the same building as Ao>Invites her over to play games all the timeMarine won the Aobowl. Holowitches was shit anyways.
I’m saying that Marine is the person Kanata was referring to as one of the reasons for graduating. Ao is the reason why Marine and Kanata don’t get along. Ao did leave, but she left AFTER Kanata made her decision to leave and it’s possible that Kanata leaving was a factor for Ao getting fired
>>108241232This is literally the least schizo theory????
>>108241309Hey clipfagListen to marine and kanata talking a day before they graduated and how they are trying to find topics to talk about that they haven't already talked about off stream just recently.And then you compare it to watame and kanata talking About (not with obviously) each other.
>>108240584It was about Suisei. You hoSEAyomis need to fucking stop with your deflection.
>>108241451The clip is from like two years ago, Kanata’s decision to graduate happened six months ago, Marine was talking about how guilty she was for Kanata 2 weeks, and you’re a fucking retard to this day.Marine and Kanata might’ve made up now, but all of this happened after she talked about the relationship problems even more recently with Pekora on the Minecraft stream
>>108241508>>108241451>>108241371>>108242098It's worse than that. If my theory right, that mean s Kanata, Sakamata, Shion and Ao were victim of High Executive in Hololive. I watched Lap+ and Astel's stream where they talked about leaker. if we combine that with 2 holomems graduation's timeline would create something very interesting theory.
>>108242180Is this another Miko theory ….
>>108241508This might be beyond Suisei's capabilities.
>>108242362No, It's not about Miko. I guarantee you thisKanata was loved by Miko and they are both in HoloWitch. I don't think Miko involved Actually, Kanata proofs Miko is "innocent"
>>108242364The thing against the Suisei theory is that Suisei was the “offender” in that situation, reportedly Suisei also tried reaching out to Kanata multiple times, they already made up, and then also the holo GTA streams.If it was Suisei then it’d be the most 5D gaslight
>>108242426Can you elaborate on your theory?
>>108242362Now that you mentioned Miko, I understand why Kanata was in a better mood after talking to Miko on the day they had a space on Twitter.
>>108242487Suisei also "innocent" Kanata debunked it by her action.
>>108240584>What’s with ask the friendly fire
>>108240584Nah, I still say its watame since almost everyone else has talked to Kanata before or after graduation.
>>108243153I won't deny that the two of them don't get along but I would say that Kanata's actions also benefited Watame.
>>108242507I will
>>108243153Suisei didn't. Watame at least had reasons for what she did that make sense and are consistent.
>>108242180>>108242426>>108242560>>108243409Not Miko, Aoo, Marine, Watame and Suisei and Kanata helps all of them? Does such a theory really exist?
>>108240584Not that I want to be seen defending Miko but Marine has always been vastly more likely. Anybody who sues anonymous posters just for calling them an idiot with no mother is an unhinged, dangerous fruitcake; it would take a lot to get me to believe otherwise.
I mean if you think about it, Peko clique like Marine and pekora herself are the type that have even self admitted that they are hard to work with and don't really hang out with other holomem as much. You can even see it in their work ethic.
>>108242098>>108242180Oy dumbfuckWatch the stream from the day before kanata graduated where she talks with marine
>>108244259And? In my theory, Marine and Ao are just a victims and Kanata helps Marine a favor.> BUT> HoloWitch was destroyed because of Kanata> Marine come back to stream more frequency.
>>108240584Fuck you Marineschizo
>>108240584Anon is once again making lesbian rrats using straight people as bait
>>108242180You need a lobotomy. Medicine can’t fix your specific brand of retardation.
>>108244579Elementary my dear. And if anyone is smart and daring enough to do it, it would be Amane Kanata unironically.Who loves her friends in Hololive with her heart.
>>108241451>they are trying to find topics to talk about that they haven't already talked about off stream just recently.That didn't happen.
>>108244259I watched that stream live, they got along well, I’m not sure what that has to do with anything, especially things that were said literally days priorPeople change, relationships mend, but Kanatas graduation was decided 6 months ago
>>108244026>Marine>don't really hang out with other holomem as muchMarine used to hang out with pretty much everyone until Ao came along. Since then she has started repeating this "I won't go out unless invited" but then you hear from Flare how she keeps asking Marine out and she says she's "busy" despite doing fuck all.
The relationship between Watame and Kanata felt like they just weren’t that close. If it was Watame, then I haven’t heard anything about why their relationship soured. At least the Marine theory goes off information we can reasonably infer
I don't remember Kanata and Watame ever being that close to begin with, but I didn't watch either of them so maybe I missed all their collabs together.
>>108244890> "Kanata's graduation was decided 6 months ago" This is vital information in my theory. Timeline of accessing important information will be a very important matter. "Time" will be extremely important.
>>108245083The vague posting here is wild
>Have a bestie>Try to fuck her in the bathroom >Gets rejected >Try again, But this time trying to pass it off as a favor to help with her muramura >Get rejected again>Time passes>Another dyke joins the company >Try to flirt >Her bestie flirts too>The new dyke choose her bestie >Her friend and the new dyke abandon her>She ends up without her friend, without a girlfriend, Deaf, exploited at work, and finally unemployedWhat I gather from this is that Kanata is the quintessential losing heroine?
Cometfags tried to frame the sheep a few days ago but that didn't work so now they are trying to frame Marine. Dishonourable cowards, just like their oshi who hid in mengen and vague postings after Kanata graduated
>>108245443Wheres the rrat for trying to fuck Marine in the bathroom from?
>>108245458Nice bait
>>108245581From that 12-hour stream with Marine, Kanata, Ayame, and Noefure
This is the first part of my theory. I will explain how the outcome of Kanata's graduation plan caused irreparable damage to those "L" aka leakers in the next part.
>>108244999Marine has always been self deprecating even during the hag OL story arc before all the ao and not streaming stuff. She portrays herself as someone who keeps her distance even during her former OL life with older hags.
>>108246248>the leaker uses 4chanYeah... no...
>>108246348I meant an anonymous board but to make it easier to understand I used this forum as an example.
>>108246341>She portrays herself as someone who keeps her distance even during her former OL life with older hags.But she didn't keep her distance for about 5 years while in hololive. She would interact with most members all the time and now she interacts with nobody unless management is involved somehow.
>>108246598Her interactions with other holo was interpreted as professionalism in her work. She's literally comparing holo to OL life.It's really only when she got as big as she is on her own that she stopped giving a fuck about keeping up appearances.
>>108245013>>108245056There is no reason to think it was Watame simply because they didn't work together so there was no basis for her to have difficulties working together. It's schizo ramblings.
>>108246791>It's really only when she got as big as she is on her own that she stopped giving a fuck about keeping up appearances.Untrue. Her biggest hits were years ago. The reality is that she stopped giving a shit after she fell for Ao.
>>108246248Why is this starting to sound more schizo than the Miko hate…
>>108246864This ao angle is just schizo shit, you know it. Her stream frequency have been in a recline before ao. Even if the slope did turn into a valleys the longer it went on.
>>108247775She was sick before Ao, retard. She literally announced that she went to the doctor who told her the polyps that were causing her trouble were gone at the beginning of 2024.Don't comment on shit you know nothing about.
>>108246864Marine is trying to be a good person for Ao.
>>108246248come on schizo KING, post the next one
>>108247959How is she being a good person? She is just feeding Ao's ego because Ao told her she doesn't love anyone else.
>>108248026Marine is healing someone who has mental health issues. It gives Marine a real purpose in life, and it gives Ao a way to develop.
>>108248143Feeding a narcissist's ego isn't "healing" them.
>>108248184Prove that she has narcissism?
>>108244890>>108244437>they got along wellstfu schizoMarine and kanata gave alwayt been friends.She obviously had problems with wtm.Stop bumping this stupid thread
>>108248194She constantly puts down others while trying to make herself look better than she is.
>>108248290No, she doesn't. You didn't even watch her.
>>108248213>complains people didn’t watch stream>people actually did watch stream> >:(I think you need a break and take your anger meds my friend
>>108248315Yes she does. She always did it in collabs and even her solo streams. According to herself she's the hardest worker in Regloss (she isn't).
The relationship problem was one of the top reasons for Kanata quitting, I just don’t see why she’d care that much about 4th generation for it to be Watame, nor what the motive for Watames gripes are. Watame literally has kids and is married ffs
>>108248341She really, really doesn't. The character she is playing relies on building herself up and then self-deprecrating herself in her stupidity/ confidence.It's her own style of humor. If you hate her, you'll shallowly interpret her humor as narcissism.
>>108248457She really, really does.>The character she is playing relies on building herself upShe didn't need to shit on others, but did so anyways. Also statements like claiming that she's the hardest worker isn't a setup for any kind of comedic bit, it's just self-glorification.
>>108248604Building up her ego is her character. Being overconfident is her character.You're just looking for reasons to hate her lol
>>108248642Where's the joke is saying that she's the hardest worker? It puts down the others as not working as hard as she does, even though she's a lazy piece of shit who let everyone else down. If it was such a huge joke you wouldn't have had Marine getting mad at Polka's harmless comments about her performance during the watchalong.
>>108248687You're blowing up one statement to paint her as a narcissist. Peak reddit psychoanalysis lol.
>>108248731It's not just one statement, retard. It's something she would say constantly. She also intentionally put down others by making up shit about them.
>>108248750>She also intentionally put down others by making up shit about them.Proofs?
>>108240584>waaaaaaah muh relationship with one other memberNigga you retarded. Nobody would leave Hololive just because of that.
>>108248015I think OC might’ve crashed from overclocking his 10 brain cells too much
>>108248761Claimed Kanade keeps rotting food waste in her home and said Ririka's home is so dirty it should be burned. She did both of these in front of Marine to make a point about how she's just so much more likable than those two.
>>108248809Post video? You are mixing up context.
>>108240584What? There's a love triangle between Ao and kanata and coco?
>>108248837Marine
>>108248836I'm not mixing up anything. These are two separate instances of her doing the same thing for the same purpose. There's no joke, just spite to make others look bad to lift herself up.
>>108248898No context, got it.
>>108248919You're just outing yourself as not watching streams.
>>108248802I pray for your reading comprehension skills
>>108248958Ahaha, for a schizo or persistent troll you're very low-effort.
>>108249020I'm not obligated to prove anything to an annoying faggot like you.
>>108249020You guys are really in the trenches on this whole Marine debate lol
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QFBUOWXYla-mc3fhfV4xi7Tor31k4ndGIleSIdKy9aA/edit?tab=t.0
>>108249054No worries, we'll match how seriously we take you with your rigor to back up your claims.
>>108249123Who's "we"?
