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>We'll have heckin Stormtroopers dancing to Beyonce at our shitty megachurches
>But god FORBID you make fun of our religion!!!
Why have Christians become such huge crybaby cucks in the modern day?
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>>109225266
this bitch is going to hell 100%
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>>109225403
they have always been, they burned down sections of Rome out if bitching about taxes, bitching about how their religion wasn't pampered enough, and then when having a majority, bitched about not being let loose to destroy every pagan statue, icon, or book.
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>>109225403
>>109225572
hello satan, still mad that Christ won and He will grant victory to anyone willing to turn to Him?
yeah, i guessed so. keep being a sore loser. you know the end has already been written and God already won no matter what happens, so all that you can do is cry and wail like a child and try to cause as much havoc as you can before you eventually go down to the Lake of Fire.
Christ won. His children will be saved by His blood (which does not cover you) and they will be reunited with their Heavenly Father through His Son, Jesus Christ.
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>>109225403
>modern day
Anon, you cannot be this retarded.
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>>109225460
Hell is only for people threatening people with hell.
Have fun in hell anon.
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>>109225799
I guess Jesus is in Hell then for telling people they were going to Hell (LOL).
You don't know what you're talking about.
Hell quite literally awaits (You) specifically and everyone else that continues to live in separation from God. Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior is the only way to be saved.
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>indie mudshark is antichristian
So what? isnt that to be expected? I'm also anti-christian because they are anti-loli censor pig cucks
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>>109225572
ESL and probably a hindu seething
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>>109225711
How is this worshipping Christ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG3hvkzrZCE
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>>109225711
Based
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>>109225266
I completely forgot this girl ended up being a hard confirmed mudshark LOL
Though I guess this is just part and parcel of being a Barbie at this point
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>>109225711
Good goy
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>>109225891
>How is this worshipping Christ?
It's not. None of those are actual Christians but deceived and headed to Hell with the rest who have not accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior.
Now what? What's your next cope going to be? Deflecting to "muh pedos in tha catholic church!!!"?
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BIG YIKES!
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>>109225982
Then why are you defending them?
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>>109225874
>i'm anti-what's-good because i'm a pedophile subhuman
really nigga?
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>>109225943
barbie?
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>>109226024
>I dislike loli, it's anti-good, but a loli tuber being a black supremacist is good
really nigga?
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>>109225266
They don't do it to Jews because Jews are very tribal and will use their money and influence to discredit you. They don't do it for Muslims because they're terrified of violent retaliation (or cancelation by leftist drones). Making fun of Christianity is one of the lowest-hanging fruits of blasphemy, very safe edgy.
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>>109225862
Jesus is talking to me now, he said to tell you go see a therapist before (You) literally go to hell. Go now! saved your tainted soul and God will forgive you for listening to the devil.
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>>109225572
>they burned down sections of Rome out if bitching about taxes
Based
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>>109225767
At least in medieval times, they had the backbone to fight and kill for what they believed in.
Now their legs ache from how often they bend the knee.
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>She's German
I'm not surprised.
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>>109226098
she's actually russian
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>>109225862
Hell isnt a place. You can exist in hell right now.
"Hell" just means separation from God. And since God is truth, if you lie to yourself and others, you are inflicting hell on yourself.
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>>109226095
If anything that's following Jesus's teachings more than any time since the early church. Islam is the later revision of Christianity that added all the "fight and kill" stuff back in
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>>109226009
Why are you lumping Christians together with people that are clearly not Christian?
Your initial posts complaints about people not doing what Christians are "supposed" to do, then your verdict to that is to just claim Christians are pathetic cuckold subhumans despite the fact the ones you are criticizing aren't actual Christians.
I confront you on that and then your immediate response is to just revert back to your initial mockery. You don't ever care, do you? You just hate Christians for calling you out on your sin so you will take any opportunity to shit on and slander them as you see fit.
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>>109226024
>throwing a shitfit over drawings/renders
You are such a dysgenic buckbroken mongrel you don't even realize your cuckstian culture has been 100% coopted and due to kowtowing to the feminazi and your nation is dying out because of it
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>>109226155
This Orthodox concept is just as bad as the idea of "Purgatory" in Catholicism, both retarded and completely unsubstantiated while ignoring the actual sources in the Bible that directly talk about Hell quite literally being a dark, pitch black place devoid of anything good in it, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, and that's where people will be in separation from God in.
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>>109226244
Take it up with the church fathers, your definitions don't mean anything out of context
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>>109226286
Hundreds of thousands of people who have near death experiences all describe that exact same feeling and place I just told you about as it being Hell. None of them had any experience of "Hell" as Catholicism or Orthodoxy describe it to be like, lol. But then again, the Orthodox believe in praying for the dead for like 40 days after they already passed from this Earth despite the fact that once the person is dead for good, their fate has already been sealed and their judgement done. Best you could do is pray a few days when they are in a critical condition or something like that in hopes it would help God have enough mercy on them to give them a second chance.

All unsubstantiated ideas either way, especially since the "40 days prayer" thing came from some proclaimed saint who had a "vision" one day about people passing through these toll roads which took like 40 days to get through IRL or something like that, which they believed it was like, the time you have for people to pray for your Salvation when you depart.

You already have Salvation through Jesus Christ and you are secure in it as long as you keep your faith in Him until death.
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>>109226465
I aint reading all that
Take it up with the church fathers
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>>109226519
I accept your concession. :)
You will take it all up with God eventually.
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>>109227204
Is this nigga going bald?
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>>109227245
>my ass is so phat I cant wear this
that's her waist though...
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>>109227247
It comes for most of us eventually
Even niggers
Even LeBron had to get surgeries to fix it in his 20’s
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>>109227204
Pippa literally v lined to this buck at twitchcon too
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>>109227272
Claiming to be thicc is a big part of her personality
She always brags about getting catcalled by immigrants when she walks home
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>>109227204
>>109227245
>this is who she calls "daddy"
What the fuck are her standards even bro?
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>>109227350
Her standards are
>is he black?
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>>109227348
kek. average Gen Z female has been so accustomed to migrants raping them that they feel validated by being in imminent danger of getting raped by same third world subhumans.
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>>109227348
Is this why European women vote for more of them? Is rape actually good?
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>>109227466
Only if you meet a looks threshold: >>109227411
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>>109225403
Evangelicals are actually Noachidists, not Christians. Noachidism holds that Israel is the chosen nation and its follows study the Talmud, a book that holds Jesus is a false messiah and burning in a pot of feces. By definitoon they cannot be Christian, a religion focused on Jesus as the messiah.
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>>109227555
Computer pull up the Western European fertility rates for the past 10 years
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>>109227555
I think that bitch is albanian right?
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>>109227555
Isn’t this Nimi’s new leech?
Bet those are some interesting conversations regarding her impending pregnancy
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>>109227555
what a fucking bitch
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>>109225874
>>109225943
>confirmed mudshark
surely there's proof you guys can point to
>>109226027
barbies are a cabal of ligger meangirls, shondo is like the unofficial leader. IIRC one of the latest holos was a barbie too
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>>109227555
>"i'm an atheist"
>proceeds to say the most vile and evil shit imaginable
Why is it always like this?
Is it because they do not believe in objective morality and basically think that "being good" is subjective to everyone's interpretation, culture and environment they were raised in?
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>>109225711
why do we have religious larpers here?
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>>109227752
yes, atheists are retarded and think morality is relative.
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>>109227723
Flirting with a sexpest negro, and liking blacked racial fetish posts isnt enough for you?
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>>109227723
>cabal of ligger meangirls
wtf man noo... this can't be true.... but i thought every single one of them is nice and gets along just fine with another another bro... like... it's like an anime where they all want to help one another to get to the top and they are all friends and being there for one another...... no...... this cant' be true.......
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Could've sworn I entered the vtuber board.
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>>109225266
isn't this the same whore that posts porn of herself?
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>>109225572
>take down government because of taxes
Fair and based
>bitched about not being let loose to destroy every pagan statue
As to what, letting them let loose and have the crusades happen again? I'd rather they bitch about it since it means they're muzzled and won't wage outright war. Meanwhile you have Islam constantly at conflict against infidels (everyone) like it's tradition.
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>>109225266
I remember seeing people trying to defend her here claiming that she is "Christian" or that she is "Catholic" or that she "respects Catholics".
I don't know how any of them could even fathom trying to bring that up as a point when she quite literally just goes out of her way to immediately mock Jesus like that, not even in the first post with the cross or whatever, but in the next comments where's she's clearly mocking the whole thing by going "aaah!! daddy jesus save meeee!!"
Vile beyond belief.
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>>109227932
Mocking cuckstianity is based though, they are buckbroken golems, being a coalburner though.....
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>>109227854
Tbf this one is Filipino
Id look for something else too if I had to live among the short, disgusting weevil-like humans
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>>109227819
>actually they're all backstabbing snakes you dum dum!
was that supposed to be a gotcha? Kinda sad you haven't found actual decent human beings that happen to also do vtubing
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>>109228029
made you should tell your mother to get into it first
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>>109228068
pathetic comeback, sister. Are you 13?
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>>109228178
i'm literally saying your mom is a nice lady so you should tell her to get into vtubbin and you insult me... why are you like this?
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>>109227854
we need to go back to hitting women
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>>109227854
Dick cannot physically go to that level inside your body unless it's a horse cock, and even then, it would have to literally rupture through your whole womb and stomach included in order to get right up inside your chest cavity under your ribs where the lungs and heart is seated... Always so retarded seeing stuff like this.
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>>109227854
>We women care about men mental health
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>>109228263
At the bare minimum, but at the current moment anglo chuds and eurocucks are too afraid to tell women that ritually sacrificing children to baal is bad for them, so dont hold your breath on that
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>>109228488
Excuse me sweaty this isn't evidence mkay?
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>>109228488
future single mother behavior
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>>109225982
>None of those are actual Christians
Neither are you, look where you are, faggot.
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>>109228619
bold of you to use she would even keep the child to term. she's more likely to abort them than actually give birth.
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>>109228685
>you're no a Christian because.... you're.... uh.... preaching in one of the most depraved hell holes out there on the outskirts of the internet that need Christ's love and mercy the most and are the prime ones that should be told about the truth that lies in the Bible..???
>y-yeah.. .you're not Christian for doing what your God commands you to do, meaning, spreading the word of His sacrifice and hope for your redemption
>being around filth means you yourself are filthy obviously. guilty by association or something like that
>no, you can't be around something or someone while clearly disagreeing with them and pointing out their faults and wrongs. just being in the vicinity of anything means you give it credence abloo blooo
Keep seeething Satan. Christ is here to stay. Even in this dark, depraved hell hole, His light continues to shine and be a beacon towards Salvation for all who truly wish to come and seek it. Preaching will continue until as many as possible will be save and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. :)
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>>109225711
BASED
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>>109228842
Nobody is saved by this, if anything I want to be saved from you. Keep away from me, you freak.
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This really was a prelude to right wingers immediately butchering their brief upper hand in the culture wars by becoming the exact kind of humorless finger wagging scolds that everyone hated the leftists being
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>>109229036
Keep crying. You lost harder than the Nazis you keep seething about.
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>>109228842
If this is true why are you ruled by literal satanic babyraping child eating cannibals in a dystopian totalitarian socialist regime where you pay a third to half of what you earn to them, and are spied upon like a criminal?
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>>109229036
what did you think was funny?
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>>109229036
They already did that by forcing through self-doxxing laws to use the internet in half of the US
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>>109229118
Mostly your pearl clutching and sobbing if we're being honest here. Really tied the performance together
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>>109229036
Most people through history are NPCs running introyected social mandates, that they act on like a sort of OCD mechanism, rather than their own elaborated internal systems of meaning. They gather unto tribes based on their psychobiological predispositions (conscientiousness, empathy, openness to experience etc) and emit their tribe approved signals.

The right was right in calling the left NPCs, but they failed at acknowledging they also are mechanical humanoids. And like the mechanoids they are, they were programmed, too, by someone else.
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>>109229218
so no humor is being lost?
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>>109229019
>Nobody is saved by this
EVERYONE Is saved by Jesus, as long as they're willing to seek Him out. This is all information to help you understand who to look for, which, by extent, does actually save people.
>if anything I want to be saved from you.
You're just saying this cause you're angry and hurting so your immediate reaction is to just lash out then mock and insult others when it comes to things you don't want to understand and reject out of ignorance. You should be wanting to be saved from your own self and the sin that dwells within you that keeps you a slave to it and continues to warp you into a miserable shell of a human being.
>Keep away from me, you freak.
Again, same thing as before. You would not be saying this to Jesus at all if you actually truly knew Him and what He's like. I'll pray you ultimately manage to find your way back to Him, or that He Himself comes seeking you out at your lowest point, or whenever He wills it that it would be best to show Himself to you.
Regardless, keep in mind that Jesus loves you and there's nothing you can do to change that. Seek Him out in repentance, no matter how unworthy of love or forgiveness you feel as if you might be, and He will be faithful to forgive your trespassing and help you out of the darkness that you are in and back into His glorious light.
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>>109229102
>if God real, why bad thing happen?
You just really have no arguments left at all, do you? Look up your on question and you have hundreds of answers to it already but you continue to reject every single one of them since you don't actually care about hearing the truth and just want to continue being bitter and mad over the truth which you reject not being up to your sinful, deviant standards. God bless you and may He have enough mercy to help humble you enough so that you may be actually willing to look at the truth that lays right in front of you but which you continue to reject.
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>>109229503
If God truly blesses he would smite these demons not let them live exceedingly long lives to torment neutral people
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I still jack it to anime nuns despite being catholic seeing the things here are just strange to me as someone not extremely devout to such a level it’s the internet bwo
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>>109229599
you became numb to that sin
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>>109229671
And you’re preaching on a Mongolian basket weaving forum…
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>>109229463
This is some advanced mental illness.
Can't say I'm not familiar with it, you all sound the same. Literal NPCs.
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>>109229568
If God were to do as you are ordering Him to do here, you would already be dead, along with the rest of the world because there are no good, nor "neutral" people. Only bad ones. There's no one good but God Himself.

To even claim "neutrality" is to be an enemy of Christ, as you cannot drink from both the cup of demons and that of God. Either you are with the world, and by extent, the demons who inhabit it, since Satan himself is the ruler of this world, or be with God and endure through life and let Him bless you ass He sees fit for the plan He has for you and the abilities He has bestowed upon you to do with as required for His plan in this life.

What's it to you anyway if some live longer than others when the final outcome will still be the same? We will all be judged by God at the end of times, and those who did not die having accepted Christ will be put on trial for every single sin and atrocity they have chosen to engage and revel in.
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>>109229770
Not an order, but hard to claim you are pro-human when you allow this dystopia to happen, also bonus points for cuckstians being useful idiots to these demons with all this totalitarian police state that they have erected.
In my opinion God is neutral at best.
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>>109229740
God bless you. :)
If it is to His Will, then may He have plenty of mercy to not let you come down with the same issues you are accusing others of and wishing it on them.
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>>109229860
Bro, I'm not wishing mental illness on you.
You already have it.
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>>109229842
I mean the great flood exists lol, I’d consider it lawful good or lawful neutral thoughever
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>>109226068
What about Hindus though? The jeets don't have anything on anyone (unless it's poop if one touches you).
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>>109230043
They will harass you on Twitter mostly
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>>109230043
>>109230061
>jeets
>doing anything
They are in a perpetual humiliation ritual on this site and outside of it
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>>109225711
bait used to be believable, but you overdid it with your pretend zealotry, maybe a couple doos voolt will help you next time
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>>109229842
Your opinion is wrong and you are being deceived by the exact same demons and satanic pedophiles you are that angry and bitter over.
God will take care of them, and He already is by the extent of the fact you still wouldn't have known any of this is happening if it were not for Him making it so that the files and the people behind all this are being exposed the more times goes on by.

Regardless of all that, you are still cattle put in chains but thinking you have freedom cause the walls around you are painted like the outside world. You mock the only real and Good God, who is Jesus Christ along with those who follow Him. You should genuinely feel bad for it and have a change of heart where you come back to Him, repent of all this and put it behind you, because if you don't, you will continue to stay as miserable and as bitter as you're always been and will ultimately lose yourself to the outer darkness of Hell if you are to die without having accepted Christ.

He loves you enough to have died for you so that you wouldn't have to go through the full extent of the judgement and fate that you deserve for being in constant rebellion against Him, yet you continue to mock Him for that and STILL somehow find all manners of ways to twist Him into being a villain despite knowing all that He has ever done was for your own good and benefit for your own Salvation.
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>>109230146
Yes two more weeks, in the meantime Europe, and all the Anglo countries have turned into CCP China and are ruled by this group of demons
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God isn't real.
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>>109230209
Why are you focusing on what's meant to cause you chaos and frustration when you should focus on Christ, who brings you peace of mind and joy?
You can be aware of the evils of this world and agree they exist without allowing yourself to become a slave to the misery, bitterness and anger said realization is going to bring to anyone who isn't rooted in Christ?
You can combat the evil and expose it without having to do evil yourself in return, but since your don't know God, your inherent response to this is to just yearn for violence and bloodshed and respond to evil with more evil that will do nothing but cause and breed even more evil and trouble in the future, far past and beyond whatever the current ones are.
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>>109230351
You should go to /pol/, they need this saving thing more than us.
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>>109230351
Why are you deflecting from me telling you God is completely indifferent to whatever happens here?
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>>109230515
Everyone needs it, but if you're going to specifically point fingers, this board SPECIFICALLY needs it since they let themselves make idols of other women and worship them with all they have instead of worshipping God alone, like they were meant to.
The sooner you realize that, the easier it will be for you, and the faster you will be able to break away from this situation.
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>>109230637
If God ain't an anime girl, I'm not interested.
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>>109230717
He is, 150cm and as flat as a board representing purity
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>>109230598
There's nothing to deflect since I already told you God is Good but you continue to be stubborn into believing your delusion and continue to try and push it forward that He somehow is "neutral".
He literally died for you so that you don't have to actually get the death you deserve, as the wages of sin is death, and by you willingly engaging with sin and continuing to take pleasure in it, you will die, since death is what you deserve as an extent from that.
He is Good because He is quite literally Love itself and did something that not "neutral" deity could ever do, which is to quite literally lower Himself down to our standards, leave amongst us a a human, getting to experience every single thing you yourself have to go through on a daily, then die in one of the most painful, torturous ways possible as a sacrifice that would make it so no one would actually have to get what they deserve.

You continue to deny that and reject Him at every step despite already knowing it in your soul that all I am telling you is the truth.

Satan is the ruler of this fallen world, so of course that all who come into great positions of power and authority get placed there though him in some manner. But said authorities derive their place in ruling over nations from God as well as a consequence for shunning Him and believing they know better how to run things and that they can simply just "figure things out" without reliance on God for protection or discernment. They deserve their lot in life and the powers that be which lord over them. You have ultimately no one but your own self to blame for all this.
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>>109230954
Death that I deserve simply by existing? Fuck you too buddy, Never wrong anyone in my life, I live a much more straight edge life than you cuckstian hypocrites do, always preaching purity but then ending up being niggerloving bugchasers and closet homos, you deserve death.
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>>109230954
When someone tell you they have the "truth" you know they are the biggest bullshitters.
You don't need to claim you have the truth in every sentence, like saying that it becomes true.
Truth is self-evident from proof, facts and observations, it's not spoken into existence by talking about the notion of truth.
You are literally doing the equivalent of shouting Bloody Mary at the mirror, and we stand here waiting for Bloody Mary to show up, yet she never does.
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>>109231124
You do nothing of what you say and if you claim you are without sin, you are lying to yourself, to those around you and to God Himself. All that you do by continuing saying things like this while mocking Christ and His people is further incriminate yourself in the court of law when you are to stand in Judgement in front of God's throne upon your death.

The wages of sin is death. You engage in sin daily and thrive in it, therefore, you deserve death. There is absolutely no way around it, no matter how much you try to justify yourself, because you are not good and neither am I, because there is no one good but God Himself.

If you are to claim otherwise, it's a if you claim to know "better" than God Himself, and therefore exalting yourself far above Him, even though you do not know anything that there is and everything that there is about you is limited in every single possible concept when compare to God Himself, who is a being outside of time itself and not bound by human limits or logic.

I'll leave you at this because I'm seeing you're already getting way too heated up and just starting to throw more and more insults and mockery when you find no other way to twist around the truth that's been told to you over and over again.

God bless you and I pray that you eventually come around to realize all that you've been told so far is nothing but true. Jesus Christ alone is The Way, The Truth and the life, and no one comes to The Father but through Him. Repent for yours sins and seek Him out, and He shall faithful to forgive your trespassings and help you out of the darkness you have allowed yourself to live in for all your life.
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>>109225266
Christcucks are the worst
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>>109231556
I'm better than you because I read the Bible, and I mean the whole Bible not the edited cucked Bible, and it teaches me that I should stand up against totalitarians, whereas your average cuckstian hypocrite fundie is a useful idiot and even helps these tyrants get their way.
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>>109231556
If God knows all does he know what it's like to have a dick in his ass?
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>>109225711
this is genuinely more reddit than those "i am euphoric" r/atheism posts
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>>109231258
I claim the Truth because that is who Jesus is. He is The Way, The Truth and The Life and I love Him.

You reject the Truth because you reject Christ and you hate Him for everything that He stands, because His mere existence stands against every single deviant, degenerate and sinful way of living that your flesh, and by extent, you, love to engage with on a daily and be bound down by like a starving dog looking for it's next meal.

All the proof, facts and observations you are looking for are neatly written down and preserved in the Bible, along with historical sources outside of it that give both credence to Jesus AND the things that have been written about within the Bible itself. But you reject all of those because, again, you hate Christ, so everything that actually stand for Goodness and The Truth, you hate, are disgusted by and will work towards smearing, mocking and doing your best to silence and ruin as hard as you can.

Jesus Christ alone is the only one who can save you and help you out of the bondage of sin that you are in right now as we speak. May He have Mercy on you, enough so that He may humble you and soften your heart in order for you to be able to actually be aware of your own wrongdoings and come to Him in repentance for them. God bless you.
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>>109231570
You are in the minority, enjoy hell
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>>109231883
Ok, now bend over, for Jesus.
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>>109225266
we gonna celebrate when she gets killed by some migrant
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>>109225266
Yeah your neighbor, not some asshole on the other side of the planet that couldn't give a shit whether you lived or died. The original meaning of that phrase was closer to "Pay it forward" than however modern retards interpret it.
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>>109225266
>2024
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>>109227555
This is the bat that the Liggers constantly shill for here? What a disgusting whore, I hope she may never find anything good in her life.
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>>109233163
Yes. I briefly followed her on Twitter for a bit and watched some streams after finding about her on here but then left after I kept having my feed flooded with spam posts from here just acting like an obnoxious cunt constantly shitposting and trying to act like she's on 4chan when outside of it.

Few months after that, I see that same screencap you replied to and felt even more vindicated for actually dropping her. Very vile stuff.
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>>109225403
>All kneel and lick each others feet and a cube
Funny how it is acceptable to mock Christianity yet nobody is willing to mock Judaism and Islam despite those two religions being much worse
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>>109231942
I miss this cutie
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>>109233389
Everyone likes to say how Christianity teaches you how to be a "cuck" or whatever cause it teaches restraint so you don't just blow up like an animal and murder everyone around you.... yet Islam itself quite LITERALLY teaches you to be an actual cuckold, lol. (and obviously no one says anything about that)
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>>109233389
Woah there buddy, if you mock these two that means you're a hecking racist that hates minorities and that's not politically correct!
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>>109233487
Just because that sandnigger supremacist cult is horrendous that doesn't mean modern cuckstianity with the nefarious church coopted by the state is any better
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>>109233751
Just it take up with God in your grievances and stop mocking Him based on whatever image you made up of Him in your head based on what other people who claim to represent Him but don't act like. You're not doing good to anyone whatsoever, not even yourself by continuing to explode in this much impotent anger and bitterness.
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>>109233878
You're a good anon, too sane to be in this place.
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>>109227752
>>109227792
All morality is relative.

>inb4 but God
So then morality is relative to whatever God deems is good.

>but God is good
So God doesn't have power to determine what is and isn't good and is beholden to some hidden moral force?
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>>109234146
thoughts on pedophilia, good sir?
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>>109234186
I don't like them. What's your argument?
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>>109234235
why don't you like them?
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>>109233878
My problem is with the church and these pseudo-cuckstian hypocrite puritans, you need terminating
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>>109234285
I feel a visceral sense of disgust at the idea of pedophilia probably because of evolutionary psychology. It has probably been developed inside our brains to dislike pedophilia because it serves no purpose and in fact actively harms human survival both as individuals and as groups.

I know where you're going with this and you will just continue ask me why like a petulant 4 year old until I have to admit "I don't know". Which isn't the gotcha you think it is. It doesn't disprove moral relativity, it does in fact prove moral relativity because there's no real universal reason for my beliefs. The universe does not care if pedophiles exist. But I am comfortable with that assertion, you however are not because you haven't come to terms with the feelings of meaninglessness in a morally relative universe.
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>>109234146
Morality is objective to the Truth, which is God.
God knows what is Evil because He is Good and completely antithetical to Evil. In order to be fully Good, you must know what Evil is in every single instance and reject it every single time, which God does. He has never done anything wrong and all that He has ever done and will continue to do is Just and Good, no matter how much you try to twist it around or blame what others do onto Him.
Take your grievances up with Him if you're that angry over something you don't even understand yourself.
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>le 4chan browsing, vtuber watching, coomer "trad caths"
The fedora tippers of our times. Hell, some of them might have been fedora tippers as teenagers and this is some form of evolution.
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>>109234458
So God gets to decide what truth is. Morality is now relative again.
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Why the theological showdown under a BBCpost
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>>109234452
>come to terms with the feelings of meaninglessness
Sad to hear you feel that way about yourself.
You should know that your life has meaning and that you matter because Jesus loves you, so much so He quite literally died for your sake, even though you did not deserve it, and by all accounts, should have taken the whole brunt of the punishment He had to suffer for you.
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>>109234146
>>109234458
You guys are basically just arguing semantics. Omnibenevolence is a cope, God's a dick, and you just have to deal with it.
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>>109234597
I know my life has meaning because I give it meaning. That doesn't mean that my meaning is universal or not relative. It's relative to me.

You seem to have a very narrow definition of what moral relativity means. It doesn't mean the lack of morals or the lack of meaningful existence. It just means that there's no universal law to dictate them or punish me for not following them.
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>>109234501
Nope. God is objective. There's no "decision" to be made here by Him as it simply just exists as Truth by extent of His existence. You already know it since God's Law has been written on your heart. But obviously, you can choose to reject it inside, which leads you to nothing but sin and then death. Ultimately, you will know it all to be true sooner or later. But by all means, I pray it's sooner, so that you may actually come around to faith and let Jesus save you as He offers you rather than find out of it in death, when there's absolutely no way for you to turn back and repent.
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>>109234697
So you argument is
>God insists upon himself

Which isn't an argument, you just got yourself into a loop of circular reasoning.
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>>109234728
Not gonna lie, at least this time there's actual arguments going on /here/ instead of just personal attacks.
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>>109234650
>there's no universal law
read >>109234697
God's Law is already written on your heart at conception. The Ten Commandments are quite literally a reflection of that. You can choose to reject it all you want and try to be your own god and try to give your life some form of meaning, but ultimately, by your own standards, you are worthless and nothing you do has any meaning since there's nothing at the end of the path, so you might as well just kill yourself since suicide isn't "objectively" bad and you can surely find ways to reason it out as actually being something worthwhile.

You already know what you should do that is right but you suppress, and the bad that you do, you enjoy it and believe you will never be held accountable for it, and that as long as you can get away with it not being physically known by anyone in this world, you're fine-- which is all a lie. Everything bad that you have done, you WILL stand trial for and be judged for in front of God, and you will know you have no way whatsoever to argue your way out of it. You will know you are guilty for you trespassing, for God is Sovereign, and you have broken His Law over and over again despite all warnings.
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>>109234913
I'm not reading your theological babble. Engage in actual philosophy or fuck off.
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>>109234931
>i'm not engaging in something i can't refute anymore, fuck off
KEK. I accept your concession.
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>>109234967
>REEEE WHY WON'T YOU ENGAGE IN MY ILLOGICAL CIRCULAR REASONING

Because it's circular reasoning, there's nothing to engage with. It's completely illogical and admitting that you argument boils down to circular reasoning is an admission of defeat because circular reasoning is the exact same as "just because".
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>>109234786
>>109235032
>now that I can't refute what you said anymore, I'm just going to cry out "FALLACY!" and demand you put yourself into MY specific frame of view of things and argue from MY viewpoint cause I can't be arsed to actually understand or engage with yours
Okay. You can't actually engage with any length explanation you are given for all your questions and instead just dismiss it as "illogical" cause it doesn't fit your specific frame or reference, LOL. Concession accepted.

But just to simplify it for you before you go back to seething:
>Morality is not based on what God wills (commands), but on what God is (His perfect, holy nature).
>Because God is believed to be unchanging, the morality based on His character is fixed, not relative to changing whims.
>In this view, morality is independent of human opinion or culture, making it objective rather than relative.
You don't accept any of this because you continue to judge God and morality in itself within limited human terms of understanding, so there's absolutely no way for you to be talked or argued into accepting anything because you'll just continue to be the sane until you're put in a situation where God quite literally humbles you enough for your heart to be softened and accept the fact you were wrong and what I've already told you about God and His nature is true.
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>>109235431
>You can't actually engage with any length explanation you are given for all your questions and instead just dismiss it as "illogical" cause it doesn't fit your specific frame or reference,

If your frame of reference is 'just because', I can freely dismiss it with 'just because'. I'm not reading the rest of your post.
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>>109235431
>God is fixed

So God has no ability to make decision or change anything about himself? Therefore he is not God.
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>>109235312
>yeah bro it's totally the christans who destroyed out country
>no the satanic pedophile jewish elites who quite literally hate Christ and worship Lucifer
America was quite literally MADE on the basis of Christianity, and the reason it had as much power as it had in the past and life in it was that good was BECAUSE of Christianity, not in spite of it.
Either you don't know your own history or are completely ignorant of it, though regardless of that, you talk cancer out your mouth with no idea of what it even means. The reason you (and America) are in the situation you are in right now is BECAUSE you abandoned Christianity and continue to mock and belittle everything that has to do with it or Christ Himself.
You've abandoned Him, so He gave you over to Evil and depravities so that you may be humbled by it and eventually find your way back to it when you ultimately realize that there is absolutely nothing you can do whatsoever in your own strength, and that you quite literally NEED Him to save you.
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magic isn't real
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>>109235471
I accept your concession. Have a good day. :)
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>>109235615
No concession given. Why? Just because.
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>>109235636
Nope, it's fine, you already conceded by quitting the argument and I accepted it. Enjoy your free time.
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>>109235710
>you quit the argument
lol
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>>109235586
Cuckstians just censored the internet in most of the US, and have empowered the state with tools that the next marxist that gets in power is gonna use to hammer people with. You guys are scum useful idiots anti-liberty the exact same way as the leftoid trannies, wish you would all die painfully.
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>>109235516
>God MUST do what is antithetical to Him to prove to me that He is God, or otherwise I will not accept that He is God, even though I don't believe in Him to begin with.
Circular reasoning, you're a hypocrite. The bulk of all your arguments just come down to ways for you to be like "If God can't do X or what I want, then He isn't God."
God can do anything He wants, but that doesn't mean He's actually going to do the things that run against His nature, which Is all Good. Why would He be doing anything that is Evil when His fixed nature, that's existed before time, and His very essence is that of Good? He is Good, therefore He cannot do Evil? But can He do it if He wills it? Yes, since He's All Powerful? But will He actually do it? No, because He's Good, so being Evil runs opposite to His nature, and because He's All Powerful, He doesn't have to "prove" He's not Evil when His very essence in itself already speaks for itself that He's All Good.

You have no good intentions whatsoever with this talk and all that you seek is to discredit and mock Him even though He's already proven His Good nature and Love for you by quite literally dying on the cross and taking the brunt of the punishment that you deserve. Yet that is somehow still not enough for you.
There's really no point to this anymore since you're just going to loop around to the exact same argument no matter how many times you are proven wrong, since you don't seek to understand, you seek to argue and sate your ego by "proving others wrong", even though you are ignorant of all that God stands for and willingly reject every bit of truth that's handed over to you.

It's just an overall sad and miserable state of existence to be in where you are in life right now with all that bitterness and anger that's festering inside of you, even though the key to life and unmeasured joy lies right in front of you. So may God take pity on you and bless you with His mercy, so that you may be able to eventually find your way back to Him.
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>>109231965
enjoy your heaven filled with niggers LMAO
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>>109236209
>od can do anything He wants, but that doesn't mean He's actually going to do the things that run against His nature,
Is God not in control of his own nature?

Also the constant capitalization of words is annoying and I stopped reading because of that.
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>>109236372
>Is God not in control of his own nature?
NTA, but God does things he wouldn't normally do when he gets pissed off. He's not above making irrational decisions when upset.
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>celebrate when she gets killed
this but for para
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Is this the Christian schizo from the shondo thread?
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>>109239743
I hope he's a third worlder since that would make sense, because him being from an anglo country is historical seeing how their puritan lobby is destroying the internet with self-doxxing laws and censorship
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>>109237381
But then God is not all powerful, he is at the whims of his own emotions and nature. That indicates that there is something above him that he cannot control.
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>>109239814
How is any of that the fault of Christianity?
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>>109239814
He uses AI to write some of his posts I know that
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>>109237381
Sounds like a woman
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>>109239881
The ones saying adults need to self-doxx for the chilluns are all cuckstians or masquerading as such, and the "real ones" are acquiescing as if men being barred from watching porn is gonna help with anything
This also applies to these social media bans which are dystopian and you have a bunch of mongrels online and around defending it because muh brainrot when in fact kids being exposed to this are much better off as it lets them discern and gives them a choice, while being left in the dark about issues is extremely detrimental to them.
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>>109236299
Why would our immortal souls have skin color
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>>109240125
Yeah, okay, proof any of them are who and what you say they are or are you just continuing to hurl insults and mockery like a broken record because you continue to seethe to this day about mommy making you have to wake up every Sunday morning to go to Church?
Also, you alone are proof that children shouldn't actually be allowed on the internet until they're old enough for it, seeing as you turned out this bitter and miserable and angry at literally everything.
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>>109240125
bro you've been in this thread for like 7 hours now since it began having absolutely nothing of value to say but constantly seethe and blow up in anger while seething about christians and calling them slurs and buzzwords over and over again to no avail. whatever argument you think you were making lost any possible grounding when you continue to do nothing other than to act like a literal manchild with no emotional control. just go do something else at this point and stop bumping the thread if it annoys you this much. you're actually just getting really fucking annoying and obnoxious. better yet, just take this over to /pol/ with the rest of your third world brethren.
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>>109239865
>That indicates that there is something above him that he cannot control.
No it indicates that He has emotions. Is there something above you because you are angry and make a bad decision? No. You are still responsible for it.
>>109239983
There is a passage in Exodus that says God's name is literally "Jealous."
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>>109240331
Imagine believing in a God who mades bad decisons when he's angry lol
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>>109225711
This has to be a copypasta.
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>>109240480
>Imagine believing in a God who mades bad decisons when he's angry lol
Why do you think you're supposed to fear God? The only people who say he's a pacifist are dispensationalist heretics.
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>>109240125
actual schizo nonsense what the fuck are you talking about
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>>109240231
>>109240321
>nooo muh landwhale misandrist marxistoid daughters cant find no men to marry we better ban porn
>nooo muh childrun consuming brainrot and calling out the jew we better ban social media
I never had religion forced on me but Im seeing cuckstians that are being useful idiots to the state and allowing these totalitarian censorship laws to pass and even clapping for
them when they are gonna be used against them primarily. The future total extermination of this group is gonna be well deserved, I know for a fact that religion has no future in western countries.
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>>109240674
Brown tranny did you know that in half of the US you need to submit ID to browse certain websites now?
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>>109225711
KEK. absolutely based thread and reply.
Caused so many fedora tippers to actually melt down it's beyond hilarious that you only need this little to make their entire world and belief crumble.
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>>109240729
>I know for a fact that religion has no future in western countries.
Yeah right. Just wait until the AI Cults show up. 3000 years and people will still bow down and worship something made out of melted down precious metals. Watch and see.
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>>109240784
you're babbling, schizo. take your meds.
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>>109240922
I don't know what comes in the future but for certain the people that side with the totalitarians are gonna be left on the wayside, and are considered traitors. I also know the children of these pseudo-religious puritan families grow up to absolutely despise cuckstianity so from the get-go you lose your children, and people even not within the range of the indoctrination thanks to these totalitarian edicts, good job there.
>>109240946
Dysgenic brown tranny living in denial how sad
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>>109241457
>I don't know what comes in the future but for certain the people that side with the totalitarians are gonna be left on the wayside
Yeah I'm sure that's what the Senators said before they stabbed Julius. Didn't work out so good for them.
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>>109241619
Very interesting that you pulled the Romans out of your asshole when the same situation is repeating itself, the manginas that you support that are pseudo-conservatives pseudo-christians have set up laws to make it prohibitively dangerous for men to cavort with women and now your countries are rotted and dying, the exact same way as the Romans did. The more you tighten the noose rather than take these foid privileges away the harder your hellholes will collapse and implode, it's simple math, you don't punish the producers and favor the parasites.
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>>109241927
>your countries are rotted and dying, the exact same way as the Romans did
Why do you think the common people loved Julius despite the fact he was declared an Enemy of Rome and a Tyrant, then murdered on the Senate floor? Why do you think the Legions sided with his nephew who didn't even bother to make concessions to the Senate like Julius did? Tyrants are born from these conditions and they rarely fail under such.
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Pretty stupid point. even secular groups are pro censorship as it's in people's nature to get rid of things they don't want to see. Aside from that in the absence of religion people will simply worship celebrities, politician or corporations. I don't think an army of people religiously devoted to walmart is the utopia you think it will be but enjoy nonetheless. At least you won't have to deal with people asking you to make fun of all religions equally.
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>>109240671
>Why do you think you're supposed to fear God?
Makes it easier for the church to tell you what to do
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>>109242090
>Makes it easier for the church to tell you what to do
Fair. Though that's often because the Church doesn't fear God the way it should. I often wonder if the Harlot riding the Seven Headed Beast is the Church.
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>>109225711
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>>109242318
basadoooo.................
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>christkeks scared of hell
take up witchcraft and be unbound from god's rules
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>>109240331
>Is there something above you because you are angry and make a bad decision? No. You are still responsible for it.
If someone punches me, I have literally no conscious control of whether or not I feel angry.

If my mother dies, I have no conscious control over whether I feel sad.

So yes, there is something above me and out of my control. If God does not have absolute and total control of his emotions, then he is bound by some sort of divine physiology when enforces that he will feel certain things based on events. If God has no control over that divine physiology, then he is not all powerful.

If he does have control, then he is deliberately being a retard by allowing his emotions to make irrational decisions which then doesn't make him omnibenevolent.
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>>109242403
i'll make sure to torture you for all eternity in my pocket dimension once I ascend from this world :)
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God gives orders to wage war and commit genocide under his name.
>When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you—
>and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
Deuteronomy 7:1-2

Another genocide.
>Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
1 Samuel 15:3

Another genocide, except for little girls, you can keep them as sex slaves, but only if they're virgins.
The little girls who fail the hymen check ought to be killed.
>Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
>But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Numbers 31:17-18

Another genocide, including murder-abortions to make sure no infant can crawl out of their dead mother's body.
>The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God.
>They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.”
Hosea 13:16

Another genocide, including the captures and enslavement and presumable rape of some virgins.
>So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children.
>“This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.”
>They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.
Judges 21:10-12

Another genocide, except if they become slaves, then they may live.
This one has the nice caveat that you should spare women and children to capture and rape them if the town as a whole refuses to become slaves.
>When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace.
>If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you.
>If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city.
>When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it.
>As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14

Rape is bad, that's why the punishment is a fine and being forced to marry your victim.
>If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found,
>then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29

It's okay to sell your daughter into slavery, but only if you follow God's ruleset.
>If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do.
>If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her.
>If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter.
>If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.
>If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
Exodus 21:7-11

Yet another war commanded by God, with an all-inclusive rape-buffet.
>A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.
>I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
Zechariah 14:1-2

Bullet round!

>kill homosexuals
Leviticus 20:13
>kill witches/ mediums/ wizards
Leviticus 20:27
>kill anyone who insults their parents
Exodus 21:17
>kill everyone involved in adultery
Leviticus 20:10
>kill women who lied about their virginity to their husband
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
>kill anyone who works on a sunday
Exodus 31:12-15
>if you are a priest and your daughter becomes a prostitute, burn her alive.
Leviticus 21:9
>kill infidels.
2 Chronicles 15:12-13
>God kills 42 children if they mock his prophet for being bald.
2 Kings 2:23-24
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>>109242472
you've been looping around the exact same "argument" for like 8 hours now despite every single counter point everyone brought up to prove you wrong every single time. just give it up and go do something else, you absolutely mentally ill retard.
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>>109242586
>despite every single counter point
Those points just being the same argument over and over.

All morality is relative.
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>>109242472
>If someone punches me, I have literally no conscious control of whether or not I feel angry.
>If my mother dies, I have no conscious control over whether I feel sad.
I'm not sure if I fully agree with that idea. There were Buddhist monks that have such a degree of self control they mummify themselves in a tiny clay sarcophagus. When someone punches you, you are right to be angry. When your mother dies you are right to be sad. When God is angry He is right to be angry, but he has been talked out of acting on that anger before. Mortal men have interceded in God's decision-making process before, like Moses, and by Christian doctrine his own son as well. If anything the fact God can make rash decisions out of anger should tell you how and why you were made in His image.
>which then doesn't make him omnibenevolent.
Omnibenevolence is a cope and a heresy predicated on circular logic. God's like a bad dad. He's an asshole but you should love Him anyway and remember that He does love you as well, just not always in a way you can comprehend.
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>>109242538
godbros... our response?
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>>109242622
>There were Buddhist monks that have such a degree of self control they mummify themselves in a tiny clay sarcophagus
You are confusing state of being with emotions. Those monks still felt pain, sadness, anger, etc. They just learned to not externalize it through a state of being of harmony.
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>>109242538
Why are you attacking Judaism you fucking antisemite?
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>>109242622
Why does God have a right to be angry? Because he says so?

Then morality is relative based on what God says.
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>>109242538
Christcucks are annoying however you've attached taso to a retarded post so:
>old testament
the whole point was Jesus made jewish law unnecessary
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>>109225711
Satan is not even in the Bible
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>>109242086
Marxist are absolutely in favor of censorship you are right, but rather than meeting a bulwark of resistance from these self-identifying "christians" they are actually passing through these totalitarian laws in all of these flyover states and even in larger gop states like texas and florida. These "christian conservatives" suffered censorship online all throughout the late 2010s but now they are happily siding with these demonic communists in the government "to protect the chillun". This is why they are scum and they deserve whats coming from them from the state itself in the next years.
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>>109242643
>godbros... our response?
There's not a lot of ways you can steer bronze age savages that don't include rape and murder.
>>109242660
Indeed, they felt those things but didn't act on them. Much the same way God didn't wipe out the Israelites when they started practicing idolatry and other bullshit, primarily because of Moses' intercession.
>>109242685
>Why does God have a right to be angry? Because he says so?
Pretty much.
>Then morality is relative based on what God says.
That's one way of looking at it. Metaphysically speaking God exists outside of time and has always made his decisions before and after their causal placement. You ever read about Quantum Mechanics? It's a real mindfuck when you start thinking about quantum superposition and comparing it to the idea of an entity that exists outside of causality. Omnipotence is largely predicated on the ability to choose to do anything, or choose to do nothing.
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>>109242714
"Satan" just means "Adversary." It's an umbrella term. Lucifer is "Satan" but "Satan" is not necessarily Lucifer.
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>>109242741
Okay cool. That's all I wanted to hear.

All morality is relative. Debate is done.
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>>109242538
The charges officer?
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>>109242856
>All morality is relative. Debate is done.
Well, I mean, that's fair but I'm not the guy that originally disagreed with you. You have to understand that the semantics used in faith are rigged. People grow up being told certain ways of viewing the Bible that are often flagrantly wrong because they attempt to literalize an allegory. That's the biggest trap there is in Abrahamic religion: The Genesis story, for example, can not be literal. No one was around to record or witness most of the six "days" of creation. The concept of a "day" had not even been invented. Islam has a phrase that specifies when the text is being literal and should not be interpreted any other way. Judaism and Christianity not so much.
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>>109242538
All perfectly justified. No one is good but God alone. The wages of sin is death so they met their demise. If tomorrow you were raped to death by a gang of immigrants, you would deserve it. Not the specific way in which you died, but the death itself since you are sinful by nature and sins the wages of sin is death, then death is what you deserver and will get at one point or another. Which is either later on in life or sooner.

Every single one of the things you have written down that you are trying to twist around like the child of the devil that you are is perfectly justified given the time period and he customs the people at the time were engaging with. God didn't have to literally tell His people that "slavery bad" because they inherently knew it and on top of that, it was a massive part of the world as a whole at the time, so attempting to just completely erase it right there and then would have been futile, especially since He already know slavery would come to be abolished later by His people, the Christians anyway, so what He did was tell them how to actually behave and get through with it without causing themselves any further and unnecessary harm.

Other half of the mentions you made was God quite literally telling the Jews what He is going to allow to happen to them as consequence of the deviancy they have engaged in and the countless ways they have trespassed against Him and ignored His commands. He removes His protection from them and allows them to be victims to the fate they have brought upon their own selves by committing sin.

Every else that mentions killing specific groups of people is justified just the same as what I started the reply with. Wages of sin is death. All the listed things such as homosexuality, witchcraft, adultery, idolatry and so forth are an affront upon God and punishable by death since they are sins, and the wages of sin is death.

If you do not understand (or just refuse to) that very simple concept, that you have committed a crime which you deserve to be trialed, judged and then sentenced for, you aren't actually going to understand or be willing to understand anything the Bible says nor know who God truly is. You will continue to live your life in sin while acting like the black over in America who get shot at and arrested on the streets while yelling
>"I DINDU NUFFIN OFFISA!! AM AN INNOCENT MAN!!"
Despite the fact you were caught over and over again engaging in crime that gets you put in those situations.

Lord have Mercy on you, for you're lost beyond belief to the point you would rather mock and twist His words than bother actually making any sense of them or just directly seeking Him out for an answer.
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>>109242615
Your parents are relatives, which in turn explains why you behave like such an inbred retard.
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>>109243064
>playground insults
I win.
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>>109242712
>the whole point was Jesus made jewish law unnecessary
You meant "Mosaic Law", but that was the point of my post, dummy.

I am demonstrating that God's moral compass was heavily endemic to its historical context and not at all compatible with current culture, thus rendering the argument that we need Him for moral guidance null.
It's especially hilarious when God's name is uttered when a child or someone's wife is raped, considering God seems to be totally on board with it.
There exists a persistent cognitive dissonance that western modern moral sensibilities are somehow still aligned with what God would have wanted.
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>>109242724
And you? What do you deserve?
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>>109227854
This is evidence why people need religion
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>>109243086
>I am demonstrating that God's moral compass was heavily endemic to its historical context and not at all compatible with current culture, thus rendering the argument that we need Him for moral guidance null.
Scripturally speaking that very mechanism is why the New Testament exists at all. Paul speaks of the "righteousness that is of faith" and how it was achieved by Gentiles without the Law, and that the Israelites lost that righteousness because they cleaved to the Law.
>It's especially hilarious when God's name is uttered when a child or someone's wife is raped, considering God seems to be totally on board with it.
If God intervened in every sin then you would be an automaton locked in chains you can't see. God, by His very nature, must allow sin to exist. If He does not then He's responsible for everything you've ever done and you never had a decision in the first place. Determinism is anathema.
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>>109243086
You are genuinely fucking retarded and lack any moral compass whatsoever. Nothing you believe in grounds itself in any truth or objective morality and all that you do is arbitrary and subjective to whatever you personally decided is right or wrong based on personal experience. You might as well scream "CHIL RAPE BAD!!" at the top of your lungs while privately you go jerk yourself off to lolis, which are digital depictions of children like the deviant that you are. You have absolutely nothing going for yourself.

If the secular framework through with you learnt how to "logically" be a "good" person changed even a bit and said that in order to be a "good, moral and empathetic" person is to let millions of migrants to flood your country and never speak up as they rape your women is what you need to do, you would do it in an earnest, no question asked, because you're either born or pressured into that way of thinking, so you will believe that whatever society deems "moral" is what you yourself should follow.

God's Law however is unchanging, as His nature is, and whoever wants to actually truly reflect God and His character in what is true goodness tries to follow Him and His commandments so they can be more like Christ. You yourself however do nothing but act like the exact type of cattle that the satanic pedophiles in charge of the World want you to be.
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>>109242856
Debate was done 8 hours ago when you got BTFO'd going into a logical fallacy with your retarded manchild circular logic where you stomp your foot into the ground over and over again and go "nuuuh uhhh" to everything until you can loop it back around to what you want to say. Just go the fuck to sleep and stop shitting up the thread you dumb cunt.
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>>109243088
Nothing as I have not wronged anyone in my life, I dont participate in the commie humiliation ritual of voting, never served "jury duty" and I don't lobby or endorse censorship.
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>>109242538
The only counterclaim to this is christcucks doing the equivalent of "it's ok when hololive does it" holofags do on this board.
The fun part is they are serious about it.
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>>109243322
Name a more iconic duo than being a christcuck and racist.
Trump is your God now, you massive faggot. Go suck his dick.
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>>109243020
Based theologybro absolutely BTFO'ing the Reddit r/atheism arguments
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>>109243445
>trump out of nowhere
Rent free
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>>109243020
>>109243566
The funny thing is that situations like Jericho were examples of the Israelites defying God's orders to commit atrocities, and that refusing to carry out those orders bit them in the ass later. In fact, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah features the same moral lesson. Abraham bargains God down into sparing Lot and his family, even though God wanted to wipe them all out. God sends angels to rescue Lot, and Lot was almost immediately raped by his daughters. Their descendants became a violent tribe that worshipped a rather nasty deity and, if I'm remembering correctly, sacrificed entire cities to that deity.
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>>109243400
>as I have not wronged anyone in my life
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO. all your given examples have to do with secular shit nobody cares about. welp. it's clear you're fucked if this alone is what you focus on despite being told over and over again what the truth is.
you're a sinner and you need God. you have wrong Him specifically along with every single person out there that you have insulted when they tried to do nothing but to help you, especially on this thread alone, you have wrong at least multiple people already with your incessant rage posting and hurling slurs around. actually, insulting someone by using slurs alone is wronging them, even if not directly addressed, just the mention of the slurs mean you wrong the people who it is used against. you are no saint, and continuing to tell yourself that you are will do nothing but harm you for as long as you keep up with that delusion. you have sinned and deserve death for it. can't make peace with that idea? not my problem them. take it up with God. regardless of everything, the truth still remains that you will one day stand before His throne and you WILL have to stand trial for every single one of these things you have done and said that went against Him, and you will know without any doubt whatsoever, that you've been wrong in everything that you have done and believed, an that you have been lying to yourself, to those around you, and especially to God Himself when you kept on going about how "good" and "blameless" and "without sin" you are. you are a sinner in need of Christ and you need to repent, but you won't since you don't care and would rather just continue living in your delusion while continuing to be as vile as possible hurling slurs around and insulting everyone that doesn't play into your delusion. you are wrong and will continue to be wrong for as long as you live. Bible already tells you the only truth there is to know, and you already had multiple other people tell it to you but you just rejected all of them over and over again so you can continue being angry and miserable over things that should not concern you to that level where they quite literally become something you idolize thinking of and talking about. seek God or you're fucked.
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>>109243322
>You might as well scream "CHIL RAPE BAD!!" at the top of your lungs while privately you go jerk yourself off to lolis, which are digital depictions of children like the deviant that you are.
fapping to lolicon is infinitely preferable to raping children, what the hell is your point even lmfao
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>>109243400
>he STILL continues to believe he's a good and moral person who dindunuffin despite throwing multiple different slurs and insults all throughout his various different posts spanning multiple hours while raging like a fucking lunatic at people he disagrees with
Man... I think the other guys who called you a schizophrenic were right. Just go take your meds and catch some sleep. You've been at it for way too long now.
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>>109243698
Christ himself called a philistine woman a dog and tested her faith in doing so. When she took it in stride he blessed her. Think about it.
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>>109243698
>>109243743
'Scuse me, she was a Canaanite. I'm a little tipsy. Point stands.
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>>109243698
>suffer through 2008-2023 online censorship
>still race through to pass laws to censor the internet as if that isn't going to be weaponized against them
I'll just call you useful idiot cucked golems next time, that's it
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>>109243670
>this sin is more preferable to engage with than this other sin because i'd rather commit pedophilia in my heart and soul than commit pedophilia physically
They're both sins that you willingly engage with you which result in you being deserving of death. That one of them may come with a lesser punishment than the other doesn't really make much of a point when the general idea is still the same, that they are both sinful to do and will have you sent to Hell.
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>>109243670
>>109243838
>They're both sins
Harming the innocent is a sin even Christ would execute you for. That's all there is to be said about the subject, and I don't care to explore the concept of what age or situation sex stops being harmful. Get to the heart of the matter or shut up.
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>>109243830
Okay, you're still stuck and bitter and angry over something that happened decades ago which no one cares about or even remembers for the most part. Instead of living in the present and making something of yourself, you continue to allow yourself to be tied down to whatever random garbage that you felt slighted you in the past so you just lash out at everyone that comes in your sight, great.

You really are just schizophrenic. None of the people currently enforcing said standards are Christians. You're basically hallucinating and going back to the Satanic panic era (which the Christians were right about btw, as you yourself admitted to the people in charge being satanic pedophiles) in your head and thinking it's the same thing now or whatever. Fuck off. Take your meds and go to sleep. Nothing will happen and you won't do anything to change things. You'll just keep on impotently seething about things going bad over and over again on this site until you have an aneurysm and die from it since you do not know peace or joy and your entire life is nothing but misery, anger and bitterness.

Your only chance out of this is through God alone. Give your life over to Him and He will rescue you from this entire depravity and miserable life that you have found yourself and sealed yourself to. Otherwise.... Enjoy not ever knowing peace in your life again.
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>>109243975
>get to the heart of the matter
Already did. You are objectively wrong and don't know what you're talking about.
That's it. Cope and seethe. Also, concession accepted. /thread :)
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>>109244011
>Also, concession accepted.
You keep saying this to third parties like it's decisive to the conversation. You have tunnel vision. Assess the situation.
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>>109243302
>Scripturally speaking that very mechanism is why the New Testament exists at all.
I literally agree with you. Between Judges and Paul there is a chronological gap that lasts over a thousand years, giving enough time for cultures to develop.
What certainly helps is that Jesus came from nothing and was not in a position to wage war like the many prophets in the OT.
His birth alone is a story of forgiveness, specifically pertaining to Mary's covered up act of adultery.
>If God intervened in every sin
The issue is moreso that God intervened precisely to have people commit heinous moral acts.
He deprived those that he ordered to be raped and killed, and those that he refuses to save while being raped and killed, of being free.
>then you would be an automaton locked in chains you can't see.
What is bad about being an "automaton"?
I am a staunch proponent of hard-determinism so I fundamentally disagree with the notion that we're anything but automatons anyway, but even if I weren't, why do you prefer a world with endless suffering so long as you have the opportunity to commit evil?
'Free will', if explained to anyone in purely neutral terms, sounds like a terrible fate. There is an unaddressed romantisation aspect attached to the term.
You can enjoy life to its fullest without being in charge. It's already my mode of operation from an ontological point of view, but it shouldn't be too incompatible with anyone who believes in free will.
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>>109243975
>and I don't care to explore the concept of what age or situation sex stops being harmful.
You don't have to, since the Bible clearly shows that God is fine with child rape, child sex captures and marital rape.
Your definition of "harmful" is different from God's definition of harmful.
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>If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters and yes, even his life, he is not able to be My disciple.
Luke 14:26

Jesus is a Jewish midrashic myth meant to subvert the biological hierarchies of gentiles and turn them against kin-selective altruism. Moses was also another invention meant to ameliorate inter-kin conflicts amongst Jews.
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>>109243743
>>109243762
Jesus was teaching his disciples who wanted to send her away that the kingdom of God was open even to Gentiles, not just ethnic Jews, therefore shattering their prejudice. And when she refer to her as a "dog" it was a very specific Greek word that meant something more similar to "puppy", not "wild dog", which at the time, is what Jews associated and aw Gentiles as.

The woman did not take offense or leave in anger at the comment, Instead, she understood the analogy and showed immense humility in return, accepting her given status, but trusting that Jesus has the mercy and grace required to still help her regardless of it.

Either way, she pretty much represents that idea which says to keep on asking, seeking and knocking even if the answer seems like a "no" at some points, or is just delayed at times.
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>>109244115
>i care more about wordly things and persons who will wither away and die than about God Himself who has the ultimate power to save both me AND my family from death and who will help reunite me with Himself and then at the end of times
You literally do not care about anything and your own here and now and the things that the world has to give you along with it's pleasure. You are fucked.
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>>109244032
>Between Judges and Paul there is a chronological gap that lasts over a thousand years, giving enough time for cultures to develop.
It's funny that you mention Judges because I have a certain fascination for Shamgar, a Judge who was likely a Hittite rather than an Israelite. He wasn't the only Hittite to hold a position of honor in the Old Testament.
>The issue is moreso that God intervened precisely to have people commit heinous moral acts.
Within the context of the story, which one would presume to be a complete narrative unit, refusing to commit those heinous moral acts precipitates even greater heinous acts. If you knew killing a thousand less-than-innocent people would save a million innocents would you do it? Tough question. Easier when you believe there's a God that knows better than you giving the orders.
>What is bad about being an "automaton"?
It's no being at all, just empty vanity.
>why do you prefer a world with endless suffering so long as you have the opportunity to commit evil?
My preference doesn't really matter, short of blowing my brains out.
>You can enjoy life to its fullest without being in charge.
Can you? Maybe if the cosmic wind blows you toward enjoyment. If you're lucky. (You're not.)
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>>109244032
>specifically pertaining to Mary's covered up act of adultery
Yeah you don't actually know what you're talking about. Your entire point is to just mock, blaspheme and twist every single thing pertaining to God and His word. You need to repent.
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>>109244026
I assessed the situation and I came to the conclusion that not only are you immensely wrong, you are RETARDED on top of that as well, so yup, I would say just the same. Concession accepted. :)
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Imagine the sheer mental energy wasted on the garbage in this thread
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>>109243978
>who cares if the state comes after the "racists"
>who cares if the state comes after "MRA"
>who cares if the state locks everybody up in their houses and forces you to take experimental clotshots
>who cares if they censor you online if you speak out against it
>who cares if they censor le porn is bad for le kids
>who cares if they censor criticism of deranged jews, dont you know they are our greatest allies?
>who cares if they censor loli porn you are not a le pedo are you?
>who cares if they force you to doxx yourself to watch porn or use social media? you are not a le predator and we must protext the chilluns
This is why I cant take the subhuman modern cuckstian mongrel seriously, you are the same as the communist mongrel and you have hell to pay in the future
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>>109244117
>she understood the analogy and showed immense humility in return
Yes, humility. Now imagine if she had gotten indignant, called him a racist piece of shit, and stormed off in a rage to tell all the other Canaanites what a dick he is.
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>>109244032
>God intervened precisely to have people commit heinous moral acts
Do you genuinely even believe what you're writing? Because what you're saying makes no sense and not a single soul actually sees those passages in that way.
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>>109244234
Not reading anything else from you or engaging with this absolute cancer of a "discussion" you keep on looping around.
You have nothing but insults and mockery to hurl with nothing to back them up. You're angry and bitter and have personal issue you need to solve, but instead of doing so, you try to distract yourself from it by raging like a lunatic and directly all that seething hatred towards God and His people.
Seek Christ out in repentance and ask Him to life his absolute spiritual cancer off your soul and He will be faithful to forgive you and help you out of your predicament.
Continue down the way you are and you will be lost forever while knowing nothing but continuous misery.
That is all. Have a good day and may God bless you, if it is to His Will to do so.
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So /pol/faggotry threads are just allowed on/vt/ now then?
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>>109244257
Oh, nvm. You're trying to sweep for the schizophrenic who mocks Christ and everyone who stands for Him.
>Yeah bro, like, just be humble bro. Turn the other cheek and let the guy rape you and your God verbally bro. Don't speak up, just be humble and shit, etc etc. Be a doormat and all that cause that's what you're "supposed" to do.
Fuck off.
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>>109244363
That's not at all what I was saying but okay. I'm too deep in my drink to bother being combative.
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>>109244181
>Within the context of the story, which one would presume to be a complete narrative unit, refusing to commit those heinous moral acts precipitates even greater heinous acts.
That's not what was happening, though.
The wars and genocides were not trolley questions, they were just that, wars and genocides.
The "heinous acts" prescribed to any party, even if fully true, do not match the punishment (murder/ rape/ slavery of entire peoples) from a modern point of view.
Rather, it was a consequence of collective guilt endemic to the place and time period.
>It's no being at all, just empty vanity.
Can you qualify that? How do I cease being if God intervenes to save me from hurting myself or my faith?
It is a very rhetorically loaded premise.
>My preference doesn't really matter
Of course your preference matters, you are opposed to becoming an 'automaton' and we're having a discussion about that.
>Can you?
With divine intervention? Why is that even a question?
If we suffer to test our faith and our capacity to do good, then suffering becomes an unnecessary component in the absence of being tested.
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>>109244304
Seek a gun shop and suckstart a shotgun christcuck closetcase
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>>109243396
>god is relative
>>no because god is objective truth
>god decides that

And I'm the guy making circular arguments?
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>>109244531
>The wars and genocides were not trolley questions, they were just that, wars and genocides.
Correct, they weren't a question. They were a defiance of divine command. Something the Israelites have a habit of doing, but that's another conversation for another board.
>Can you qualify that?
>It is a very rhetorically loaded premise.
Can I quantify vanity? No, vanity has no value. That's why it's vanity. Let's say God intervenes to save you. Now you think you're protected. You do stupid shit and suddenly God doesn't protect you anymore. Have you been betrayed? Or did you push your luck too far?
>Of course your preference matters
What if it matters more if I don't think it matters?
>With divine intervention? Why is that even a question?
So you would trust God to put you in a position where you can hedonistically enjoy being alive? How naive. I trust God to put me in a shit place where I have a shit life.



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