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>Previous thread
>>109679503

>YouTube
https://youtube.com/@pillowdear
https://youtube.com/@CushionHunASMR
>Twitter/X
https://x.com/pillowdearasmr
>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/pillowdearasmr

>Fan website & resources
https://piwwow.love/
>Fan wiki
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/PillowDear

>Latest cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns08Y6GYWEc
>Latest event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6LGy2A4S8

>Latest stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvE1cDoMeSk
>Upcoming stream
Tuesday TBD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB4d2CdBaIU
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THREAD RULES:
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>>109729176
Discord server rules:
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Cute feet
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Dicks out for Cher fellas, we’re gooning to Pilltoes in his honor.
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We are Cherlie Kirk
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>>109729279
WE CARRY THE FEET
WE FIGHT FOR THE GOONING
WE HONOR HIS NAME
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>>109729279
Stop copying
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reminder that pillow is seiso vtuber, respect that
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Aren't there age checks for discord now? I'm considering reporting them.
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>>109729318
Always have
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Cher was there for me when I needed to goon most. For that I will support him.
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>>109729582
https://youtu.be/-8h_v_our_Q?si=QrJD6JgrzRC3T7Uy

I’m Cherolac! No I’m Cherolac!!! We’re all Cherolac!!!
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Dropping Pillow if Cher doesn't get unbanned. Otherwise it reveals she doesn't really give a crap about her gachikoi.
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>>109729805
kys dramafag
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>>109729805
I wouldn’t drop her even if she shot me in the chest, but it’d hurt my image of her and make me sad.
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not a fan of dramafags catching onto this
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cute socks
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>>109730069
Haven't seen any of that.
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If you’re upset about this, you should email her. Pillow being stressed out for a day is preferable to the community developing into a faggy clique ruled by power tripping discord mods.
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>>109730677
But no you must understand, Pillow posted a sad crying drawing. This means it is our fault for talking about this stuff and mods shouldn't be criticized because that is infighting and she hates you for it.
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I think she is trying to navigate this situation as we speak. Hopefully we see a response sometime later today.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first time someone who wasn't Pillow posted in the announcements Discord channel. Which makes me think they did not consult Pillow at all about this.
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>>109730763
She doesn't need to have any response really. Just remove the mods from their mod status (not even a full ban) and unban Cher.
>>109730825
Eh, it doesn't indicate anything either way. It's also possible that Pillow just asked them to post it for her or something. Any claim that Pillow knew or not is pure speculation.
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Free my dawg piwwo
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>>109730825
It was also posted about 10 mins before she went to sleep. She's the type that would struggle to sleep at all if she knew something controversial was dropping like this.
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>>109730869
The issue of being hands-off with moderation yourself is that moderation tends to then be done by people who have no intention of being hands-off about it
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I think most of us are fine with mods just as long as they do their job and no more. They're a necessary evil. Any drastic and sweeping actions should be approved by Pillow. Any mod that comes /here/ to defend themselves 100% deserve to get shat on. Just sort your shit out with Pillow directly.
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>>109730739
to be fair she does hate infighting and would prefer if piwwows would chill instead
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>>109730900
pillow will never micromanage any drama because she's just mentally not capable of that stress
piwwows have to sort it out between themselves
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Even if he does get unbanned, will it ever go back to normal for him? The mods just showed that they’re willing to toss him out to keep some random kids happy, because those kids are on sites that are not even intended for children
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>>109730990
I'm not sure why everyone decided to blame some piwwo kids
could also perfectly be just adults who don't want to see pillow in degen way and find it annoying
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>>109730990
No. That's why everyone has been saying she needs to remove all the rogue mods too. It's like if this was a pizza shop. It's the manager's responsibility not to hire people who will spit in my pepperonis.
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>>109731032
Because with adults, at least most are smart enough to keep quiet about their age under most circumstances
The kids WILL inform you constantly about how underaged they are and how much they hate anything lewd.
>just adults who don't want to see pillow in degen way
Yeah, the mods themselves. That shouldn't be hard to realise
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>>109731032
Nobody is blaming the kids lmao. Ultimately, the mods are the ones who took action to ban a good piwwo. You sound like a guy who agrees with the ban but doesn't wanna say it.
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>>109731106
Lol
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>>109731106
They did Pillo dirty...
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>>109731035
I was going to screenshot it, but it appears she deleted the mod submission link on the Discord, which is fair. She had a moderator application up a little bit ago and explicitly stated that her chat moderators are:
-Not allowed to brat or consider themselves better than other Piwwos
-Allowed to act with any authority outside of the chat in any way
-Allowed to get directly involved with chatters beyond putting them in time out.

Now granted, a bunch of her discord mods are also chat mods, so they have extra powers, but it can assumed that her discord mods are told something similar, since that's the mindset she's treating her mods with. RoninTenshi already violated that by DMing a Piwwo with a warning for posting on twitter, and whoever nuked Cher is violating pretty much all those rules.
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>>109731032
Sorry, I was just going off of what I had seen. As >>109731066 stated, it was the kids who were most prominent about following Cher around and hounding him for what he does off server. Some went as far as to say that they’re permanently traumatized, despite going to the Rule34 site out of their own free will
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>>109731171
brag**
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>>109731187(me)
To clarify, they’ve openly admitted to being underage through messages. PillowCord has a role for under 18 users to protect kids, they don’t select the role, but they feel the need to tell everyone they’re underage anyway
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>>109731171
>Now granted, a bunch of her discord mods are also chat mods, so they have extra powers
That's probably an issue of itself. It would have been better to make it so that you can only be one of the other, because the issue with Cher seems to be not just a Discord ban, but an actual chat ban too, which seems way too far for this
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>>109731187
>permanently traumatized
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>>109731213
I can't believe I went to the porn site and there was porn.
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>>109731247
I assume they are joking in their own childish way. Basically doing an "I'm 12 and wtf is this." If not, I really have to see what the fuck this dude Cher was posting to get this response lmao
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>>109731299
It was never anything crazy.
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>>109731171
Where have you seen them bragging?
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>>109731187
>despite going to the Rule34 site out of their own free will
Oh my good fuck those kids probably saw some furry scat and that's what caused their trauma lol
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>>109731332
Ah sorry, they've only violated MOST of what she asks from them. Happy?
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>>109731329
Fuark
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>>109731329
These types of posts were kept in a locked out or are publicly available in a porn site. All they have to do is not follow that account, and not go to the porn site. Apparently, they’re incapable of doing that
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>>109731329
Lmao that's pretty standard, especially since it matches her character. Only problem is the boobs are too small.
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>>109731340
It all fits on one page, this is all of it.
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>>109731347
Nah he isn't happy because he is probably one of the mods kek.
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>>109731372
Oh you meant Pillow herself being on the tags there whoops.
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>>109731372
Note, while about 1/3 of the posts are Cher's commissions, I believe all of them had a SFW version that he posted to his actual account, which Pillow usually would comment on, like, and repost.
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He's a hornywwo, but he never did anything bad or unacceptable. He's just kinda freaky and likes feet, but that also describes 1/2 of all vtuber fans.
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>>109731106
>eva ananova
Isn't this that whore that had a yab with the birth control pills on a flesh stream?
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>>109731329
holy sex
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>>109731451
Piwwo, she's friends with a lot of girls. Not all of them are as perfect as her. That's a hard bar to live up to. No point thinking about it too hard.
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>>109731451
pillow doesn't discriminate lol
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>>109731443
If he gets a ban for what he did, ALL of US deserve to be locked away without a key.
>>109731451
To be fair, a lot of women use the pills even without having a bunch of sex for hormonal purposes. At least, that is what I was told by some women.
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this may be selfish, but I'll miss horny commissions
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>>109731516
Birth control turns off periods. A lot of girls are on it even if they aren't having sex because periods suck.
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>>109731544
imagine literally bleeding out and feeling like shit randomly
no wonder
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>>109731372
the ass ones are straight up ridiculous, how can anyone find it attractive
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>>109731329
A nursing handjob from Pillow is the dream.
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>>109731347
Touchy

>>109731405
Retard
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>>109731605
>tripfag calling me a retard
woah buddy
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>>109731617
Yeah so you know who I am and you can't throw paranoid schizo accusations at me
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Holy fuck just when shit couldn't get worse
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what are we doing?
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>>109731762
Turning this thread into the discord one tripfag at a time it would appear
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Rape followed by marriage.
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>>109731821
What is a tripfag
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>>109731898
See >>109731634
This is a tripfag. Trip refers to "tripcodes" often used in image boards however here on 4chan secure tripcodes are frowned upon because its basic attention seeking behavior.
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piwwo civil war
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>>109732027
We're all more or less united on this.
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So the mods are just going full 1984, huh? They’re just watching what you do away from Pillow’s community, and have the ability to be rid of you for good if they want
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What is Notta's opinion on Cher's ban?
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>>109732058
That it's wrong
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>>109732046
They can have a good time finding out who I am then.
Not that it would matter Pillow doesn't know who I am let alone reply to anything I post on twitter.
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finally no more gooners in the community
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>>109732226
>Does he know?
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What is happening? I guess this was ultimately because of the bust size post yesterday cause the commissions wasn't even a problem before. Every piwwo knows this guy.
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>>109732274
We just don't know for sure, I'm hoping clarity will happen soon enough because this situation sucks ass.
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>>109732274
The commissions not being a problem while the cup size thing is doesn't make sense. I think there's more going on.
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>>109732323
Well it was on main and it got a lot of traction so.
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I think it is a little silly that people said they would leave pillow over this.. it’s not like she’s going to post “hey this is everything that happened!”. Pillow clearly liked the guy and I don’t think she would do this, and even if she was involved I don’t think she would decide such things for no reason. I trust the pil
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Why is it that the only person who has offered to raise a ticket is the absolute worst person to raise a ticket?
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>>109732350
no one is leaving pillow over this except maybe banned guy
don't engage with dramafags, it isn't that serious. gooners will cry about it and that's it
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Lol he's really trying hard with this
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>>109732356
because majority of good piwwows are shy and not attention whores
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>>109732410
It is simply unfair and not right. There was no rule established beforehand to justify this. It's nothing more than mod overreach.
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>>109732410
>blaming nebulous dramafags
>blaming gooners
>not blaming mods
discord mod alert
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>>109732356
Who offered?
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>>109732274
Didn't that get a lot of views? Do you think the mods got jealous?
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>>109732428
Die vagueposter
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>>109732410
Ca ira, ca ira, ca ira
Mods to the lampposts
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>>109732447
Note, even the Piwwo who clipped her swearing during a Live, after she said "please don't clip that", did not get banned. She said she was disappointed in him, and that was it. Meanwhile this is a random strike with no words from her over a meme post that hundreds and hundreds of people have been posting.
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>>109732350
I will only trust the pil if the mods responsible are removed and/or the moderation system is visibly changed. Otherwise, the same thing is going to happen again.
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maybe pillow was actually uncomfortable with it and asked kt to be taken down? now she's bigger and reputation is important to maintain
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It would be really disheartening if she ends up ignoring this. On the other hand, I don’t see how she could realistically respond. At the least, Cher should be unbanned but I’m not sure he would even come back after this.
So shitty.
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>>109732447
I think it's more likely that some Piwwos saw that, got offended and stuff. Poked around to see who Cher is and what he does then boom. This.
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>>109732410
The mods and people attached to them will come over and try to defend this kind of shit, but it's pretty fucking indefensible. Pillow has made her boundaries really clear, she only wants her moderators acting in very specific ways, in very specific places, for exactly this reason. There was no rule established prior to justify it, and therefore it's inherently unreasonable to expect Piwwos to adjust to the randomly oscillating whims of powertripping mods.
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>>109732547
Cher isn't the sort of Piwwo who would have told her to fuck off if he was asked to take it down. He's complied with everything he's been asked because he's decent, just horny.
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>>109732551
If I were him, I'd only feel comfortable coming back if Pillow shook up how the mods are. The fact that a mod put up an announcement on the announcements channel instead of Pillow, for the first time ever after 2 instances of overreach in the same day, does not look good. Don't forget that the one Piwwo who posted NSFW the other day also got a warning DM from RoninTenshi, it's best to keep that in mind even if that Piwwo is not as recognized as Cher, since that's an overstepping of their duties as well.
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Pillow should watch Gundam!
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I would’ve at least been understanding if Cher made that post and included it in her tag. He made sure it would stay out of her community, and just appear on his profile. I’m sure he didn’t expect it to get as much traction as it did, but to ban him from everything and everywhere over one Twitter post is insane
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>>109732669
I assume it's more of a straw that broke the camel's back situation (or at least they are pretending that's the case so they can ban a guy they had it out for)
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>this image terrifies the discord mod
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it's wishful thinking pillow would enforce anything in this >>109730535 state
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They are asking questions in the discord as to why Cher left.
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>>109732748
Do I not understand cup sizes or is that estimate way too big?
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>>109732748
she isn't pettan??? it's literally over
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>>109732776
they didn't leave they were erased
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>>109732776
It begins...
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>>109732786
>>109732794
All joking aside, the underbust width is way too low. It's practically at her waist, drastically increasing the bust size.
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>>109732786
He set her height to 4’10 (142cm) so it skewed results pretty badly
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Someone needs to bring up that he was banned, people are making it seem like he just up and left.
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>>109732835
he got banned and didn’t even get the measurements right kek
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>>109732837
In reality I'd estimate she's probably like 5'5 or something.
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>>109732841
anyone bringing that up would be outed as degen 4channer or friend of him
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>>109732861
Maybe that's why lol
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>>109732837
she's 3 apples tall we all know this
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>>109732861
This one is I think more accurate. I used 162 cm for height (average American woman)
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>>109733235
Got damn that's hot
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>>109732868
There's literally a guy here namefagging with his Piwwow username, I don't think that's an issue
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>>109733274
Cher used to love cats ;_;
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>>109733593
He's not dead lol
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>>109733618
technically from our perspective they are
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>>109733618
With how much he has dedicated to Pillow he may as well be...
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He left a lot of sweet comments on her videos. I'll be sad if they're gone forever (and her replies).
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>>109733736
From what I understand about Youtube, the mods probably put him on the "hidden users" list, which will hide all of their comments. But it's just as easy to unhide them so I don't think they are permanently deleted.
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>>109733787
Oh, good
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His contributions will not be forgotten
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>>109733822
I love this one and the fact that she commented on it.
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On the topic of Cher, one thing I was curious about was in an old VOD, I saw that he used to be a mod. Anyone know the story behind that and why he stopped being a mod?
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It's so over
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>>109733822
We truly lost a good one. He didn't deserve it.
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>>109733942
https://x.com/i/status/2026045896501190697
It's never over piwwo
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>>109734080
cheering pillow on!
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>>109733870
There's a rrat in there somewhere, I just know it
>Cher was a mod
>didn't get along with other mods for some reason and left
>mods conveniently start acting against him, perhaps feeling slighted
>when people insult Cher openly in the discord, they dont stop it
>warn him about twitter art to force him to take it down
>Cher posts the bust calculation
>it puts her at G cup when she is actually small chested
>mods are furious because it blows up despite not having her name on it
>use it as an excuse to ban him
>coordinated to ban him on discord and hide him on YouTube
>make an announcement that he is banned on her discord, which usually only Pillow does
>Cher locks his twitter and hopes to stay silent until drama blows over
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It won't be the same without that hornyschizo
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will we see the horny big honker affectionado drawpiwwo again here?
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I will commission horny art in his stead, though I will do so anonymously and only post /here/. Other piwwos will be free to share at their own risk.
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at least this is anonymous safe space so piwwows don't have to worry here, right?
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>>109734523
Well yeah just don't be a retard and expose yourself
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>>109734523
Except for a few piwwos how have outed themselves. But they haven't done anything wrong, so if they get banned I may publicly protest.
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>>109734579
At least 6 known piwwows have basically admitted they hornypost and yearnpost here. The only anonymity left between them is not knowing who the fetishes belong to.
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It's been a little bit since I've been to /pillow/. Could somebody please tell me what happened? Who is Cher and what is going on with Discord?
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>>109734702
Heh no one knows who I am and what my fetish is
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really not a fan of of the general idea that from this point on any piwwo who may accidentally or not appear to be horny can get erased overnight
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>>109734888
basically a longtime piwwo has been banned from piwwo community because their post sexualized pillow and made discord uncomfortable
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>>109734615
Thanks piwwo

>>109734702
Six? I only know two piwwos who post here.
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>>109735065
There's me so that's 3
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>>109735074
I don't know who you are.
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She’s obviously aware by now so the fact that nothing has been done must mean she approved of it.
Part of me wants to believe Cher did or said something in private that forced her hand and justified the ban. The lack of clarity is killing me.
What has schizoking been up to? That nigga never has the scoop when we need it.
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>>109735144
Stuff doesn’t get resolved right away piwwo
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>>109735144
Give her some more time man. I don't believe that she would've approved the decision with full knowledge, or that Cher would do something to convince her that it was justified. He loves her too much.
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>>109735020
People sexualize Pillow all the time. What made their post so bad?
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>>109735203
We don't know. She's always been nice to him despite his commissions (which are explicit, unlike the cup size image) so I think it's more than just that post.
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that post was blowing up
pillow clearly wouldn't like it and it could have forced her hand
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>>109735175
>>109735191
The announcement from the mods is still up. If it was sent without her knowledge like people here have theorized, it totally would have been taken down by now.
Methinks you’re both coping a tiny bit. If Cher does end up coming back, I’ll eat a shoe.
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>>109735274
It was a fucking meme.
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>>109735320
So are the discord mods lol
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>>109735274
Cher has deleted posts before. She could have just told him to take it down and he would.
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>>109735281
NTA, but I think maybe she is keeping up the mod announcement until she knows Cher didn't do anything wrong. However, that implies that Cher is under investigation for something heinous, which I doubt. Yeah, that post still being up looks really bad.
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>>109735203
>People sexualize Pillow all the time
Why?
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>>109735260
That's the big thing for me. If she had at any point indicated that she had any opposition to hornyposting, then I'd get it. If she had said "I don't want people commissioning lewd art of me please", then I 100% understand. She never said that, she reposted this fully aware of his other commissions and the fact that he wants to suck her toes.
>>109733822
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Even if it turns out she did actually have a problem with that post, I can't imagine she'd want Cher banned over it, especially since I'm sure he'd delete it if she asked (and he did delete it, though we don't know who asked him to, if anyone). I can respect her if she doesn't want to see posts like that about her, but this treatment of a long-time piwwo who she's always been nice to would surprise me.
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>>109735388
Why the fuck would you not be attracted sexually to your gf/wife, which is exactly what she constantly encourages Piwwos to view her as. I personally don't hornypost about her because I view it as impolite, but I'm obviously attracted to her.
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>>109735388
>Why?
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Is she okay?
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>>109735388
they mostly don't only gooners here do and occasional freak exhibitionist on twitter
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>>109735435
the most recent drawing can be interpreted more positively I suppose?
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>>109735435
We don't know
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>>109735435
If I know her at all, and I tend to be pretty damn good at getting in her head, she's likely beating herself up a bunch right now and trying to figure out what to do.
>>109735144
I think it's perfectly reasonable that she's struggling to think of a diplomatic and optimal way to handle this. I personally hope she takes down that announcement and replace it with something from herself. It puts forth a really shitty look to have one of your mods randomly making vagueposting announcements.
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>>109735464
She’s crying in it still
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>>109731285
total gen alpha death.
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reminder that outside of this thread there's no drama, it's all in your heads, no one is complaining on twitter, YouTube or discord
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People here were literally saying she lurks in these threads and loves her piwwos even if they goon to her. And now this happens? Complete 180
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>>109735582
>no one is complaining on twitter, YouTube or discord
if you do you get banned by a discord mod :)
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>>109735582
Have you heard of a chilling effect? Try to talk about it anywhere public I guarantee you’ll get sniped by a mod.
Plus most aren’t even aware of it. We weren’t until a random piwwo posted about being scolded by a mod in twitter dms.
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>>109735604
Well yeah, she portrayed a message to us, and now what happened ruined that trust.
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>>109735643
Don't be dramatic.
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>>109735604
>People here were literally saying she lurks in these threads and loves her piwwos even if they goon to her
You're dumb if you believed this.
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>>109735439
You can't call normal people who experience normal levels of arousals "gooners"
You're either underage or mentally stunted
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she isn't /here/ and y'all are shouting at the clouds
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>>109735582
>no one is complaining on twitter, YouTube or discord
Does anyone in the Discord even know that he's banned? Last I checked, they think he left by himself?
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>>109735679
I didn't, I was just saying that it's hilarious seeing the exact opposite of what anons here were saying.
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>>109735686
>>109735604
Both of these are Discord children. I can think of about 5 examples of her very obviously looking at the the threads. We discussed why she hadn't sent BFFE rewards and she sent them the exact next day.
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>>109735708
If you think one of the most seiso vtubers, if not THE MOST seiso vtuber, is on fucking 4chan you're insane. I'm not saying that as an insult, you are just actually insane.
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>>109735708
don't bite their bait, piwwo
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>>109735705
They think he left randomly and deleted all his comments.
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>>109735793
It's not that far-fetched. She basically said she came here once, and there have been lots of apparent coincidences. I don't assume it's true but I like to believe it.
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>>109735679
I genuinely did think that
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>>109735793
>the most seiso vtuber
>does yandere, including the more violent and gory aspects
>does gfe
>just did a torture museum tour, complete with phalluses and anti-masturbation machines
>collabs with literal OF models and other lewd creators on and off her channel
>likes ponies and has history with being terminally online
Sure pal
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>>109735880
-BFFE recently
-Responding to people shitting on her after REM's concert
-This instance was particularly cute, but there's been a few others of Piwwos saying they hope she knows they love her and her aluding to something on Twitter
-Most notably her reaction after the streams with her mom was rough because the whole thread was nothing but wall-to-wall crazy shit.
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>>109735899
>just did a torture museum tour, complete with phalluses and anti-masturbation machines
she didn't think that those things will be present and was shocked by it and decided to not acknowledge/pretend she didn't understand it for a reason
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>>109735918
>Most notably her reaction after the streams with her mom was rough because the whole thread was nothing but wall-to-wall crazy shit.
This is the one she referenced on stream, right?
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I really hope she isn't here desu, 4chan can be very hurtful
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>>109735918
>the whole thread was nothing but wall-to-wall crazy shit
The stream got its own thread on the catalog so it was mostly tourists who knew nothing about her and couldn't care less about offending her. It's taken 2 years for most of /vt/ to realize she's a good person and doesn't deserve the bait she's constantly getting from someone who tries to blend in /here/.
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>>109735945
not only hurtful but anons are real freaks
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>>109735939
A seiso vtuber wouldn't tour that place to begin with or at least ask ahead to the content displayed. Stop trying to make her the most seiso vtuber ever because your gf has to be perfect in everything.
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>>109735944
I believe so, mostly because it was so vile that she felt like she had to say something.
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>>109735899
The theme of the medieval tour was torture devices, she wasn't doing is to see a phallus. Yandere and gfe don't always mean sexual. And every female vtuber likes ponies, that doesn't mean anything.
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>>109735981
stop trying to make pillow some fanservice e-hwore you so desire go watch nene instead she's going to do bikini 3d or something
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>>109736006
You don't have sex with your girlfriend?
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>>109736022
Don't be rude about Pillow's friends :(
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>>109735899
if you really think pillow wanted to see phalluses you're insane
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>>109736022
>nene out of nowhere
>complete deflection with a "no u"
You got caught. I accept your concession.
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>>109735991
Not the case. She was asked on a qna stream if she ego searches. She said she once found a website where everyone was anonymous saying crazy things about her mom. The rest is extrapolated.
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literally a shitfest here huh
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>>109736035
Seisofags are always so bad about being exactly what Pillow doesn't want them to be. Pillow constantly says that Piwwos shouldn't try and control how other Piwwos think of her, and that they should be kind to everyone, and here you see seisofag trying to defend her honor by doing everything she hates. She's not a baby. She was raised on the internet and learned how to draw from fucking furries. She can handle this thread, particularly since it's generally one of the nicer threads on the whole site.
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>>109736047
>a seiso vtuber wouldn't stream a medieval torture musem nor would she leave it public afterwards
>somehow I am implying she wants to see penises???
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>>109736022
Fuck you Nene is nice
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>>109736089
So true king. And it's always so offputting how they insist she MUST be the most pure thing to ever exist. If you truly love Pilow, you would love her at whatever seiso-level she is. You wouldn't blatantly deny reality because your oshi couldn't possibly be impure in any way.
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>>109736153
this is racial profiling...
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>>109736163
It's not even like she's not seiso, she's just not a fucking shrinking delicate flower. She's modest and shy, but she very obviously knows shit. She's described her childhood enough times everyone should understand by now, you don't get neglected by your mom and left to your own devices on your shit laptop without learning some things.
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>>109736006
You don't take your girlfriend on dates?
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Guys let's all take a huff of lithium here and stop biting the bait
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>>109736163
>If you truly love Pilow, you would love her at whatever seiso-level she is
This makes no sense. If she started sexualising herself, she'd be an entirely different person who I wouldn't love anymore.
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Be kind.
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>>109736271
The whole point is that she isn't sexualizing herself, the whole conversation was "She's so seiso she'd never open 4chan." Obviously she would man, she's probably seen more porn and gore than most of us, and that's fine and it doesn't mean anyone is accusing her of hoeing out.
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>>109736294
that's what pillow would want
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>>109736294
>>109736337
She wasn’t very kind to Cher
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>>109736306
>gore
fuck off, pillow would hate/cry because of it, she can barely handle tamer things
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>>109736359
Don't make things up. We don't know if she had any involvement or if she's still deciding what to do.
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>>109736228
Yeah, you put it better than I ever could kek. When I list out the non-seiso stuff she does, I don't want to imply she is some nasty woman. Im just saying she is just not an innocent flower child, like you said.
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>>109736359
we don't know if cher overstepped the boundaries in another ways
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>It's an "I know what Pillow is REALLY like" thread
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>>109736391
Pillow literally did ASMR roleplays where she kills/attacks people and holds a knife to you. Just because she doesn't watch liveleak chinese factory videos doesn't mean she can't handle violence.
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>>109736022
this is new low even for purityschizos
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>>109736391
Oh my god, do you watch her streams? She fucking loves horror movies. Now granted, she is more of a psychological/creepy vibes kind of girl, but she watches them all the time and they have a lot of gore. She really fucking loved Hereditary.
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after few ASMR streams this "drama" will all be a distant memory so I really don't want to engage with this nonsense in general
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>>109736529
Agreed, this is getting really stupid now lol
Goodnight piwwos
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>>109736391
There used to be bait and switch gore videos posted to this site on the regular
Anyone lurking in alternative communities has definitely seen gore whether they wanted to or not
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Dedicating my next fap to Cher.
Chodes out for Cher.
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>>109736529
I will never forget Cher. I'm not gonna harass her or spam this thread, but until that mod team is gone/cleaned up, Pillow is complicit in his passing.
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>>109736624
>in his passing
kek
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>>109736647
I can still hear him gooning his piwwenis...
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Terrible start to the week. Not having her around today just makes it worse.
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I just don't think it was right to do that. If I find out that Cher did some heinous shit or just decided to delete all of his accounts and this is all a series of terrible coincidences, whatever. But it also doesn't look great:
-RoninTenshi sends a warning to a Piwwo about posting NSFW through Discord DMs, something that hasn't really happened before and seems like an overstep.
-Cher gets nuked after posting a mildly sexualized meme
-First time a mod has ever directly put an announcement into the announcements channel.

I just really hope Pillow is able to clearly see the situation and realize how obviously it looks like the mods are overstepping and powertripping right now.
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>>109736719
Honestly, it's better she's not around for it, so she has more time to think about how to handle it (if she even knows about it at all)
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>>109736775
Not to mention, I guarantee the mods are checking here and are most likely the people throwing out bait and trying to run defense for themselves, which means that if the whole situation was some kind of misunderstanding, they'd have just said so and it would have been fine.
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You guys think it is possible she doesn't even know what's going on with Cher (or was misinformed by the mods)?
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call me pessimistic but I don't think pillow wants to be involved and I understand her perfectly
she wants a safespace and day like this probably would have have come sooner eventually with stricter guidelines etc
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>>109736856
At least two people here including myself have sent emails about it.
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>>109736856
Hopefully won't be the case since I'm currently writing an email about it. I mean I guess her manager could snipe it, but it's something.
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>>109736874
Nuking someone from orbit for violating a rule that wasn’t explicitly established isn’t a great way to make a safe space.
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>>109736908
just be polite and don't start to schizoramble
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>>109736874
"Stricter guidelines" fucking what are you talking about? Ah yes, the new regulations stopping... Mildly sexual meme images measuring the bust size of anime girl PNGs?
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>>109736933
Yeah, it's just going to be explaining the situation in as professional a manner as I can, and explaining my own upset with this, primarily just the fact that I don't feel like it's fair and decent to do to someone. He was consistently led to the impression that he was an accepted member of the community, for years, until the rules change in the middle of the night.
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>>109736929
if you complain loud enough you will get that rule into writing, I thought people had more common sense and can read the air
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>>109736990
Well, there's only 3 permutations to the situation:
-Everyone shuts up and chooses to ignore it, and then it likely happens again but there's no explicit rules or guidelines, it's just whatever the mods want
-People complain, Pillow decides to punish her mods and make her priorities and desires clear
-People complain, Pillow decides she wants to stand with her mod's decision and put up clear rules about what people are allowed to do on and off of the discord.
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>>109729176
>bare feet fetish art
we don't do that anymore
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>>109736391
Who is you even talking about? Have you ever watched Pillow?
Never mind the fact anon didn't even say she "enjoys" those things, just that she has seen enough times, which is completely natural given how terminally online she is, you stumble on that shit every now and then. But come on, she has multiple times described gorey or otherwise horrendous scenarios that normal people wouldn't even think of. She's definitely publically and socially seiso but she is not oblivious.
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>>109737095
One of her old ASMRs was literally her roleplaying a nurse cutting off all of the listener's limbs so that they could never get away from her. Even her more recent princess yandere ASMR had her describing brutally killing and decapitating a woman, then making the listener clean it up. I swear to god, people just make up a fake version of her in their heads to worship. She's a person, she's complicated, she has issues, she's an actual living breathing woman and not an anime girl, get over it.
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>>109737150
don't bring up the past, current pillow has moved on from that content
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>>109736933
the manager will stop don't worry
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>>109737176
The princess ASMR was 5 months ago dude. She spent all of yesterday pretending to be a skinwalker and killing her friends and talking about skinning them and wearing their skin.
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Still thinking about Pillow panties on my face, my dick and in my heart.
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>>109737213
he's baiting you bro
take some ashwaganda and get that cortisol under control
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>>109736990
Even in that worst case scenario, having it in clear writing is far better than a mod arbitrarily deciding that an unwritten rule has been broken and actually taking action on it
If the mods want to ban people in multiple places for unwritten rules, they better be willing to stand by and defend their reasoning in a way that the average person can at least accept
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>>109737242
Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. I definitely wouldn't be happy if she decided to patrol Piwwos posts in that way, and I think it'd be really upsetting to a lot of Piwwos who like Cher, but at least we'd know the rules. Right now we know basically nothing.
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>>109736022
You guys act like I'm crazy when I say Piwwos are nasty cunts towards my oshi Nene. Eventually I'm gonna wise up and consider you guys enemies. Fuck you guys, I won't hold it against your oshi, but we're not cool.
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>>109737308
Idk what the deal is with people shitting on Nene, I'm sorry bro. She's a really good girl and I can tell she's acted as a really good mentor and role model for Pillow behind the scenes.
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>>109735939
I admire your innocence Anon…
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I need to find that clip of Pillow seeing a fleshlight on stream and visibly reacting to it
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>>109735604
>People here were literally saying she lurks in these threads
Whoever said this was probably related to her. Maybe her boyfriend or brother.
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>>109736306
Just because she has seen porn and gore doesn't mean she likes it. She might have visited 4chan once or maybe even a few times but that doesn't mean she liked it and chooses to visit it frequently. But even being online all the time doesn't mean looking at nsfw stuff.
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>>109737401
I'm not saying she likes it man, the egosearching isn't good for her, it's an obsession because she grew up neglected and seeks out attention and praise from others. That isn't limited to purely wholesome places.
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>>109737308
ignore the faggot he doesn't represent us we always been positive of pillow friends especially those closest to her
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>>109737338
It has to be because Nene shows cleavage with her model. Nothing else she does is lewd.
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>>109737308
It’s one piwwo. Most of us like Nene and a few of us watch her casually if Pillow isn’t around.
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>>109737308
would it make you feel better if I jerk off to the upcoming 3D stream?
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>>109737481
I shall admit, I listen to her ASMR at work sometimes because her streams are really long and I don't need to constantly switch videos, but it's purely wholesome!
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>>109737503
You fool that's what he wants!
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>>109737481
Exactly I don't watch her anymore but I'm still subbed to her. Nene is fine in my books.
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>>109737429
I get what you're saying, but that also doesn't mean she visits unwholesome spaces. Nearly everybody online is an attention seeker, and there are various different attention-giving sites like Discord, Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok etc. which have an insanely better reputation than 4chan.
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>>109737643
If you combine the numerous points where it's pretty obvious she checked the thread, as was discussed before, the fact that this particular discussion thread is one of the more active places where people discuss her, the fact that she has mentioned that she knows about it on stream, and her consistent desire to stalk Piwwos and know what we're discussing all the time, I feel like it's fairly compelling and obvious.
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>>109737643
>Nearly everybody online is an attention seeker, and there are various different attention-giving sites like Discord, Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok etc. which have an insanely better reputation than 4chan.
Anyone who is terminally online knows that the opinions you get from truly anonymous places is completely different and none of those other sites you mentioned are as anonymous as /here/
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>>109737643
Dude she probably shitposts on >>>/mlp/
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>>109737710
>She checks this thread
>She knows about this thread
>She stalks Piwwos in her free time
Do you have actual proof to back up any of those claims?
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>>109737643
This board is one of the few cases where people were introduced to and only use this site for it. Similar ones are /a/ and /pol/. I don't get how it's impossible for her to lurk on here when both youtube and twitter constantly take posts from this board to share in vtuber spaces.
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>>109737459
https://files.catbox.moe/kbes5k.mp4
sure
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>>109737643
I would prefer if pillow wasn't here
this place specifically is nice because I'm not afraid of pillow judging me
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>>109737865
It's not impossible, I was just asking for actual proof instead of "she knows about this board so that means she visits it"
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>>109737971
google.com page 2 has /vt/
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>>109738033
Still doesn't mean she visits it.
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She hasn’t been active today aside from her two drawings :(
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>>109738232
let her rest for god's sake
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What's stopping me from pretending to be a kid on her discord and start accusing random piwwows of making me uncomfortable?
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>>109738232
She's too busy trying to figure out where I live so she can kidnap and through me in the basement
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>>109738295
human decency
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>>109737865
Being honest, I think at best she might check this place out once in a blue moon, maybe when she's feeling particularly stalkerish and wanting to ego search. Don't think she'd be active here every time a new thread is up.
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>>109738430
Ok
What's stopping me from pretending to be a kid on her discord and start accusing powertripping mods of making me uncomfortable?
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This might be a record for how fast one of these threads has gone to 300 replies. I love drama.
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>>109738887
I'd say this is the biggest and most valid drama I've seen since I got invested into Pillow. Everything before that has been extremely tame, like the one thing that upset people was her getting rid of her old videos.
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Suplexing Pillow into a woodchipper
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Gently carrying Pillow to my bed and having a nice nap
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This is creating cognitive dissonance for me. Cher was such a vocal gachikoi so Pillow suddenly being okay with banning him from everything out of nowhere for such a lame reason conflicts with the image of her I had in my head as a kind-to-a-fault girl that genuinely loves and reciprocates her fans feelings.
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Yeah so anyway you ever think Pillow peed in a sink?
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>>109739437
I feel the same. That’s why I want to believe there’s more to the situation, but the radio silence isn’t inspiring confidence.
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>>109739510
probably?



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