>It's unusual for a CEO to have interview like this, but due to recent dramas, I will address the elephant in the room myself>Explain the "Culture the world love" and why Cover's expansion can help them achieve it>Acknowledge that the idea and the execution are misaligned>Acknowledge that the company had lost some talents and fans trust in the process>Claim the company never intended to make Holomems not stream and work them to death, but acknowledge the shortcomings of talent support>A lot of shit happen behind the scene, some cannot be disclosed to public even if we want to, but please believe that we listened to your and talents' concerns and are working on it>The first development is that we are actually able to sue antis properly now, and not just mere DMCA papers. Don't treat us not making google doc responses on Twitter as silence or ignorance, sleep with one eye open Miko schizos>This will not be the last interview of me. I will personally update the progress to you all in the near futureWith this response, fans, especially Kanata fans, seem to cool down and wish Cover the best of luck, meanwhile antis have nothing to say other than "Just wait and see"https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/4262
>>109960639I read it, and he seems to have the wrong diagnosis.the problem isn't that the managers are stressed, the problem is that there aren't enough managers. Why do they keep sharing managers?
>>109960639>redeemedNever doubted him
The article reads like a massive fucking dose of copium, holy shit. What kinds of things are about to happen that he finally felt the need to do this?
>>109960639>>The first development is that we are actually able to sue antis properly now, and not just mere DMCA papers. Don't treat us not making google doc responses on Twitter as silence or ignorance, sleep with one eye open Miko schizosbased
>>109960794harvesting nijiseethe
>2020>oops sowwy we did a fucky wucky we are gonna weview our pwocesses>2026>oops sowwy we did a fucky wucky again we are gonna weview our pwocesses for weal this time
>>109960758Stressed managers lead to managers quitting, it's not like they're making 6 figures like some of the girls are every month.A lot of the competent managers find better jobs or get promoted leaving the girls with shitty managers, iirc Cover pays market rate so they have a better chance of getting a higher paying job after getting experience.
>>109960802I fucking wish
>>109960808NIJISEETHE
>>109960830You can already see them flooding in the thread
>>109960827they should try giving them a better salary?
>>109960907Raising their salary by 1 yen would bankrupt the entire company
>>109960639Kanata fan really don't care and lewd taso. They move on from Cover already.
>>109960835I don't think anybody is flooding this board anymore
>>109960907not everything is about money brow
I wanted to work with Cover Corp because I wanted to play games. The permissions limiting that scope is bad enough. Do we have to have the whole idol thing for EVERYONE?
>>109960992>They move on from Cover already.They just shat on Cover recently when they released the financial Q2 interview logs yesterday, saying that Cover was pretending the issue was recent when Kanata started having problems 3 years agoYou severely underestimated her gachikois' grief and hatred towards Cover. There is a reason why her fans are considered 2nd most gachikoi fanbase right under Fandeads, and Cover messed with the wrong group of peopleUntil Kanata decided to reincarnate, they will stay in the community and be as annoying as the Miko schizos. The only difference is that they at least don't attack other Holomems
>>109960639>なんでもっと早くやってくれないんだよって思うし今更変わったところで僕らの大切な人は帰ってこないけどSeem cool down? They are cold as fuck.
>>109960639That's all well and good but what tangible actions are they going to take
>>109960827>making 6 figures like some of the girls are every month>000260$
>>109960992>>109961087>TheyYeah, sure. Fellow holofans!
>>109961087yeah you'd like that to be true wouldn't you nijinig?
>>109961087Every Heimins don't turn to Hololive antis now should call it miracle itself.
>>109961140
>>109961151
>>109960639Does that mean that they are gonna up their botting game from 95% botted viewers to 97%?
>>109960639That's all cool, but I need Haachama back first.
>>109961087Let heimins rest and have peace.
>>109960639None of this really means much, but it is good that they acknowledged the lost trust not just with the fans but the talents as well.I hope things improve.
>>109960639How embarrassing to think "easier time litigating critics" is a thing to be proud of.
>>109961405but it is though?
>>109961405nijiniggers really thought they'd go out and shit on hololive and nobody would shit on them back
>>109961405Has any other corpo managed to shut down antis?
>>109961405It's a Japanese thing.
>>109961418genuinely pathetic your delusional enough to think japanese news stations are nijifags according to your retardation. how fucked is your life that you simp for these vtuber companies and then cry and start trying to console war when it gets called out.
>>109961405Vtubing is political and lawfare is its most potent weapon.
>>109961479The nijinigger is running scared my fellow holochads
>>109961479https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.459659/gov.uscourts.cand.459659.6.0.pdfstart looking up non extradition countries nijinig
>riku records an apology in english>yagoo comes crawling out of his cave with a blog post threatening antis after hiding for monthslol
I won't be satisfied until I see Yagoo flat out address how the official EN account hates promise.
>>109961547BASED BASED BASED TOTAL NIJINIGGER DEATH
>>109960639yep, covercorps still just a black company like every other vtuber company is. how about not letting your manages stalk and harass the streamers, how about not throwing your streamers in an asylum for talking bad about the company, how about not doing retarded shit like putting a child murderer in holoearth. yagoo didnt redeem shit, hes just another scumbag vtuber ceo like riku and norio. its genuinely pathetic and sad vtuber fans in the west are so fucking retarded that they worship these companies anc shit themselves when they act shitty and get called out for it. but yeah anon, a-chan is just an anti nijifag whatever, so are the tv news stations that reported on cover twice. fuck the girls themselves, only the scumbag managers matter to you retards. i hope yagoo, riku and all these other vtuber managers get raped and thrown in front of a train, and you fags jump in with them. your the type of retards who looked at kizuna ai almost getting skinwalkered and defend it and act like the people who were rightfully against it are retarded, or defend re;acts managers making a chick fucking kill herself.
>>109961592>Nijinigger projection
>もう大切な居場所は他でもないあなたの会社に潰されたんですがねJp Heimins are fucking cold to this interview and it's like put some salt in their fresh wounds.
>>109960639Ok, but when are they going to let Haachama quit?
>>109961621If they really let Haachama quit like they did to Ao, Cover may be burn to the ground for real this time. And I am serious, Cover really that fragile now.
>>109961618Guess who's next on the chopping block
>>109961405Quite literally a sign of a dying company.
>>109961659
>>109961405killing nijiniggers is always a thing to be proud of
>>109961592You forget Gunrun. Throw him to the train too.
>>109960639Praise be to YAGOO
>>109960639>we are actually able to sue antisLiterally chinese
へい民の民度の事を言うてる人達さ、こっちは世界で1番大切な人を会社に殺されてんだよあんたは自分の推しが居て、それを今も応援出来てるから他人事みたいに言えるけどへい民達は今はそれが出来ないんだよいつかまた会えると信じて待ち続けるしか出来ないんだよこれでも大分我慢してる方なんだよNo no no no.....Heimins don't cool off at all but more nearly burn Cover to the ground....I am scared and for real this time....Don't mess and be kind to heimins now...
>>109961833killing nijiniggers is always based
>>109961833We have JP involved this time not all of them from China.
>>109960639The only time I see press releases from these dudes it's talking about suing people on social media.
>>109961863Not nijinigger but anti-v in general(universal hate all of Vtuber even indie or corpo). They actually are Genshin impact fags.
>>109961914and that's a good thing
>>109961926funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say
>>109961914That's a black company for you
>>109961647I really have no idea what they're supposed to do with her. Firing her definitely off the table. Letting her quit on her own if she wants is probably a good thing but will definitely be seen as a bad one. Obviously the best option is her coming back and streaming like she used to but from the last few times I watched her I'm not really convinced she's mentally stable enough for that
>>109961914It's actually good because this stop Miko drama and kills Virgin Maie faggots and their circle. With some help with Indonesian schizo, 35p and micomet fags can doxxed almost all of leader of antis this time.
>>109961947nijiniggers really expected to be able to go out and shit on hololive and nobody would shit on them back
>>109961940Asked nousagis in Pekora thread about Indonesian schizophrenia.
>>109960639He can say all of that but it doesnt change the fact thatthe whores dont streamthey use all of their resources on two stupid live events that are japan only, that are for a small minority, that doesn't make money, and for some reason they always think theres going to be a terrorist attack in one of those events which causes the whores not to stream in preparationand despite all of that, we have male EN vtubers AND THEY DONT STREAM EITHER. I have been watching an indie for 2 years and he literally streams every single day and beats games, why can't these corpo vtubers do the same?
>>109962015>the whores dont streamWe aren't talking about saba though?
>>109961928>We heard you, Highguardians. We are taking your feedback into consideration and revamping the game with our players enjoyment in mind. Now let us introduce our lawsuit against Grumz:To me they sound like this. I think they have other problems.
>>109962038because you're retarded and don't understand that we're fighting a war
>>109961969Easy solution. >Let her collab with Kson.Haacham became like this because of survivor's guilt. I think Kson want to so that for Haachama too.
>>109962057Classic collab beggar behavior
>>109962051None of the vtubers who quit brought up mean tweets as a major factor in their decision.
>>109962099Miko did, however, and this is why she's back streaming instead of being another kanata
>>109961976I'm not surprised there are people as unhinged as this post, I'm just surprised they post about it so openly.
>>109962074This is something Haachama really want to do but can't. At least, we can agree that collab with Kson maybe help her in some degree.
>>109962109Because it's real anon.
>>109962107I don't recall Miko ever graduating.
>>109962145Miko didnt graduate but she has a common string of behavior that aligns with those who have graduated.
>>109962057I could definitely see her enjoying that collab but if you think that's really going to "solve" anything you are far more optimistic than I am. she needs (and is hopefully already receiving) actual mental health counseling, not just getting to hang out with an old friend
>>109962145And you can thank Yagoo for that
>>109962160The solution to all of our problems is collab begging and begging for more girls because we lost faith in the current girls.
>>109962099Anonchama... they target Miko's sponsors ( Taiyaki) or Miko's merchandise ( Art book ) and they even attack other Hololive members like Usada Pekora about crafted cola incident.35p and Micomets help Pekora from antis without anyone in here noticed except nousagis.
>>109962118Chammers has been talking with a lot of Holomems behind the scenes, I don't think your speculation helps. She still has a lot of support and love at least among the talent side of the company. The reality is we aren't going to know what happens until it does. I like what's been said in this press release but don't forget the same kind of talk was heard not long after Aqua's graduation. It's the follow through that matters. And Tanigo-san is not the only person with a voice in Cover's management. I will hope for the best.
>>109962145exactly
>>109962160I really don't know anon, it seem Haachama want to meet with Kson so much to the point that she contacted with Kson on stream recently.
>>109962189Do you think Kanata and Aqua and all the rest left over tweets?
>>109962188Speculation doesn't "help" or "hurt", it isn't an attack or FOR the company at all.
>>109962242yes
>>109962244I meant maybe it's better to listen to people rather than assume you know what's best for them? This doesn't just apply to vtubing.
>>109962249Do you really believe that or is it part of your virtue signaling? Most of the recent graduates have mentioned differences in direction or overwork.
>>109962276I believe that nijinigger attacks play a significant role in graduations, and that they just don't say it to prevent them from reveling in it
>>109962276the differences in direction is Yagoo being unable to kill nijiniggers wherever they rear their ugly headsnow they can
>>109962188Everything went downhill after A-chan retired....
>>109962290>>109962300But talents have explicitly said that the work is a problem and that they don't care about antis. Wasn't there literally a meme about Miko ignoring mean comments?
>>109962325and you believe that?
>>109960639>The first development is that we are actually able to sue antis properly now, and not just mere DMCA papers.Damn he had me feeling really hopeful until this lol. This just means they will now scare people into censoring themselves if they are unhappy. Ahh well.
>>109962355Yea. They can just turn off the screen lol.
>>109960639The only way he could redeem himself is by stopping the graduation queue and bringing the lost talents back. The rest is copium. What a stupid-ass post for company PR.
>>109962363nijiniggers are really upset that they can't fling shit everywhere huh?
>>109962325THE COMPANYCANNOTBETHE PROBLEMIF WE ADMIT THE COMPANY IS A PROBLEM THEN THAT MEANS ACKNOWLEDGING A TRUTH THAT WE DONT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
>>109960794haachama graduationmarine graduationinanis graduation
>>109962355> totally non-leak policy
>>109962363IDK, seeing several big JP anti kneeling and running away crying over the last few weeks has been hilarious. The girls likely had their field days, too
>>109962395Oh I'm sorry is losing your big tentpole antis making you hot and bothered?
>>109960907There are literally no businesses in the world who will actually pay people what they're worth, and will always be shocked when people get tired of getting bossed around by some daddy's girl nepohire and job hop. Not a single one.Ironically this is how capitalism is supposed to work, but businesses still seethe about it and some of the less scrupulous will try to actively fuck you over when leaving.
>>109961405"critics"
>>109960639The fact that the ONLY thing they really really want to change is to sue the antis like a butthurt lolcow already tells you that the company is going down the dumpsters.But it's not a surprise because most of the projects and decisions the corpo does flop spectacularly and they just keep being popular because the streaming doesn't need anything else to still be popular despite their decisions
>>109962405The vaguepost king
>>109962433Nijiniggers are really upset they are getting sued huh
>>109960907Please understand,the japanese economyCANT HANDLE IT!We have to delay the nintendo switch 2 announcement for 4 years because of the japanese economyIt got leaked?Fuck then lets announce it and make a cheap version for japan only four months later.
>>109962221Doesn't solve- feeling like her family hates her- feeling neglected by management- feeling isolated by certain colleaguesIdeally she would go Indie, but with the Haachama brand. I think the work related issues are easier to stomach if you are the one in control. Family is always an issue that is difficult.
Don't care, as long as friend, korone and pekora are in I'll still have all of my good faith in cover.
>>109962488indie haachama is speedrunning suicide on top of her pulling a saba and speedrunning not streaming
>>109962488> Haachama's family....God dammit.....
>>109962308I will just hang out at the cafe if vtubing is truly beyond saving. Find your happiness in the little things.
>>109961087What's with the spacing? What website do you originally come from?
>>109962581Did you know that off topic posts are against the site rules?
>>109962572Love InaLove HaachamaLove HolomemsNo matter what happens. Simple as
>>109960639BASED YAGOD
>>109960639Wake me up when yagoo terminates holostars
>>109962502>management mole>retirement home chuuba>numberfag prime sociopath
>>109962665And you wonder why they started suing niggers
why are corpo vtuberfags such corpo bootlickers?Say something bad about their corpo and their only defense is >huh huh you must be a fan of the other corpo, they suck toolmao all of them suck ass, why do you keep defending them?
>>109962363It's deservedly worrying for us, but a lot of Japanese don't think critically about the chilling effect, and see this as a good thing. Unfortunately, this is line is pandering to demand rather than a threat. Depressing, but the reality of it.
>>109961012Nta but it kind of is for vtuber managers.You can see what their salary is pretty easily on job sites (unlike Anycolor and Brave group they tend to hide that they're hiring for Cover but it's usually very obvious from the company description)https://www.daijob.com/en/jobs/search_result?keywords=vtuber&job_search_form_hidden=1Pretty much every agency pays somewhere from 4-6 million yen which is a low salary even for Japan. It's okay starting out but when you hit 30 and start wanting a family you really need to be earning more than that.
>>109962699The nijinigger shrieks in horror upon being called out
>>109962704no they think about the chilling effect, that is in fact the goalThe only reason you think this is bad is if you believe that nijiniggers being allowed to spam "Miko is married to a cover manager and that's why she gets all the sponsorship deals" is a good thing
>>109962716Specifically here's one hiring for Cover (they mention Metaverse shit)https://www.daijob.com/en/jobs/detail/1290257It pays 5-7 million but realistically you're never getting the top band there so it's 5-6 mil.Enough to live in a 1 bedroom apartment in Tokyo and save a bit here and there but definitely not good money.
>>109962574If haachama graduate without grace, I may be join you too.
>>109962188>She still has a lot of support and love at least among the talent side of the companyThe girl who had a breakdown on stream about how nobody in the company ever reached out to or talked to her?
>>109962734There aren't any of those here. This is the Phase and lig board.
>>109962908funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say
>>109960639I am genuinely baffled and confused by the fact that they have around 800 employees and it seems like maybe 20 of those are there to not even help the girls but rather boss them around. For a comoany built around talent it seems like the talent is at the bottom of the totoem pole, the whole thing is full on Japanese autism.
YAGOAT LFG!!!!!!!!!!!
>>109962829You obviously don't pay much attention to anything, so I'm certainly not going to spoonfeed you. And I hope nobody else does either.
>>109962952>For a company built around talentCover was not built around talent. Before the summer where Sora and A-Chan walked through the door with a dream, they released a VR ping-pong game. I think this is where a lot of their problems come from. Cover wasn't built from the ground up as a talent agency, and Holomems are starting to feel that identity crisis and ask 'where is my career really going'.
>>109963190most of their successes were because they weren't built like a traditional talent agency and don't react like nijisanji does to a yab though
>>109963190Are you serious?
>>109963327https://store.steampowered.com/app/495520/Ping_Pong_League/
>>109962699Corporate booklickers have nothing in their actual lives. The company is the only solidarity they can find, and it doesn't really matter the company.
>>109960794>“Isn’t it a little too late?” However, the fact that we must continue to make improvements no matter how long it may take is something that is constantly with me, and it starts with me.Yagoo says the right things and I usually agree wit he answers that he gives during interviews but actions speak louder than words. His words are empty unless he actually fixes the issues that are causing the graduations.>I am aware that we have lost some of the trust we had with talents and users a year ago.2025 was the worst year in terms of graduations but the EN branch has been fighting with management since 2022...
>>109960639this smells of desperation with loss of new points of revenue and a failure of gaining any traction in the western market, he knows the board is coming for him and he is trying to appeal to the current fans in hopes of CEO worship by non employees saves him.
>>109963422>Nijinigger projection
>>109963352What I mean is they success because they are just small tech company and not a Japanese traditional Vtuber company from the beginning.
>>109963456anon, i work in business PR and this was absolutely ghost written by a PR firm for someone who knows something really bad is about to happen and is trying to either: get ahead of it OR save themselves.
>>109963459Oh for sure. They used to joke about having *no* managers. I like this clip a lot to get the feel from back in those days. It was special.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIBDGni1-o
>>109963530Yeah you'd like us to believe that wouldn't you, nijinig?
>>109963190Those retards havent realized that careers are just for collecting a steady pay check and nothing more.
>>109960639The problem with Yagoo is that his mindset is shared only among a minority of staff in Cover. Most of the staff have a more rigid corpo or even Niji-style mentality, and Yagoo is unable to be everywhere or know everything that happens in the company, and the girls don't have a direct line to contact him either (most of their complaints fall into the same staff that is causing the problem).Nice mindset and goal, but unrealistic
>>109963545Manager was a talent's comrade back the n and not bossing around like now with Cover's maze. If you really think Hololive success because of rules of management... you are totally wrong.
>>109963698>>109963724Right. They brought on a lot of traditional executive management, which brought the traditional corpo mindset with it. And that obviously alienated a lot of the old guard.
>>109963545> Problems were beginning happen after Cover accepted manager from Nijisanji.You may might on something anon.
>>109961087Heimin are literally just nijiniggers
>>109963878stop falseflagging, nigger.
Reminder that the vast majority of Cover employees work on Holo Earth. The corpo cut your oshi pays? Sge gets zero benefit from that.
>>109960639saar do not redeem the yagoo
>>109963917are they using unity or UE?
>>109963954Unity
>>109962015>small minority >when they are the main audiencekek also>indietranny>concerned for the homos tooI understand what's happening in this thread lol, yeah aside from the sperging faggot (singular) that's sucking yagoo's dick.
>>109962015HOMOSEETHE
BLACK COMPANY
>>109963878If anyone have the right to criticize Cover, Heimins definitely have that right. All of Heimins not turn to full antis should be call miracle itself.
So any explanation on why they wont stream?
>>109964088 (me)And I would say this interview it really put some salt to Heimin's fresh wound to the point that JP Heimin reaction are so cold to Yagoo word.
>>109963545They used to be so much fun back then
You seem desparate. People will still continue watching hololive despite your efforts, you know? You can do this everyday and as usual, nothing will happen.
>>109963563ok retard, think about it like this there two kinda important things coming up: HoloFes/Expo and and EoY earnings results. two things that mean wildly different things to intreated parties (investors and fans). I don't doubt that either will be great for both, but there could be something that happens after Fes/Expo that could affect EoY results negatively that the business side won't like. You have to remember, Yagoo answers to a board of directors, not investors but investors can definitly influence the board, but the board also knows that Holo fans worship Yagoo and what happens to him can also negativly affect the company as well. If Yagoo were samrt and he has shown to be a shrewd business man, hire a PR firm and rile up the fans so you have extra leverage against the board.
>>109964249>Yagoo answers to a board of directorsfactually untrue
>>109964166Yes....
>>109961087Eh, even if an ounce of what you said is true, we unironically had it worse with the cucklings trying to pick up a fight with every other fanbase (jps included) minutes after Fauna announced her graduation.
>>109964347
>>109960639Talk is cheap, actions define characterAnd for me its too little too lateI have lost my oshi and the other two that rounded out my top 3Sorry Yagoo but fuck you and your company
>>109964397My condolences to you...
>>109964381Pls come back...
>>109960907That's antisemitic.
>>109964454
>>109960639He had me until we can now donmore than just DMCA antis. I refuse to believe that after all that encouraging words for the future of both talents and fans the first concrete thing he announces he can do is silence the people who tell them they are wrong. Fucking hell i hate antis as well and i love the talents but every day it gets harder and harder to support hololive when the first thing they can do to stop the flames is execute the people with the lighter when theres people inside using a flamethrower.
Hemin that lost all faith in Cover when Kanata left hereThis article smells like corporate bullshit trying to get ahead of a storm they know they can't avoid, and I don't buy it
Just like that one Kson thread last week, this one reeks of Taiwanese tourists as well. Where are they coming from?
>>109964454rape
just over a third of all of the posts in this topic is the same holodrone making his company look retarded for the adjacency
At lot of words, and zero real actions. Typical soulless corposuit garbage.Kanata is gone and is never coming backyagoo and his bootlickers can go die in a fire
Guys i think the solution is to have more conventions and make sure that no one streams so that they have time to work on them.
>>109964088>>109964149Look at this nigga trying... HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>109964948You're right, the entire thread is just ESL babble jeezus
>>109965221NIJISEETHE
>>109964785Nijiniggers literally trembling in their bootsYou love to see it
>>109962188>Chammers has been talking with a lot of Holomems behind the scenesThat didn't help any of the 7 talents who graduated in 2025 do you really think it will make a difference with Haato?>>109963698>The problem with Yagoo is that his mindset is shared only among a minority of staff in Cover.Yagoo has done everything he could to hype up Holostars despite massive unicorn backlash while burning a mountain of yen on HoloEarth. He is still fully in control and Cover won't even hire managers who are fans of Hololive so you get a situation in which management is either indifferent to Hololive or actively undermines it (the manager that runs the Hololive EN twitter account HATES the girls).
>>109965894Holo EN as a whole still has no streamers and its been almost 10 years.
>>109965963Isn't it closer to five.
>>109964269it's literally on their website: https://cover-corp.com/en/company
>>109965665We shall see who is more subhuman when the narrative will change the moment when Haachama will drop and they will go from "holomem" to "whore and traitor like everybody else" in the hivemind.
>>109965894>(the manager that runs the Hololive EN twitter account HATES the girls).this post would have been more convincing to passersby if you kept your fanfiction to yourself. now it just induces eyeroll.
>>109960639>A lot of shit happen behind the scene, some cannot be disclosed to public even if we want to, but please believe that we listened to your and talents' concerns and are working on ittrust us please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>109963389Shut the fuck up outfitschizo
>>109965963Biboo streams a lot even compared to the JP branch and Kiara was still consistent even in 2025. The problem is that management hates Hololive EN and most of the EN talents hate management. Management is doing shit the EN talents hate so they stream less, management does more vindictive shit they hate, and the EN talents respond by streaming even less. The contract disputes have been going on for years but the 2025 graduations added fuel to the fire.>>109967204Anon explain why the Hololive EN twitter account completely ignored the birthday live for Bae and her first 3D MV? The EN account only reluctantly tweeted about them after they were released because of fan backlash. Yagoo saying that Cover will never waver in their "commitment to standing alongside our talents" sounds like damage control when management is constantly fighting with the EN talents.
>>109960639Get Mumei to come back and then we can talk, Yagoo.
>>109962398>Ina>Has literally mocked people doom posting about her on stream Fucking retard.
>>109962939You're talking to a guy who just dropped one of his favorite streamers because she went back to that corpo lol
could've been an interesting thread, but shitposters, dramaniggers, and people who have something to "win" from hololive's downfall, made it awful.
>>109968781The board's toast anon. Accept it, we're all leaving one by one as each general falls. The tower beckons
>>109968781Interesting interpretation. From my point of view it appears that Holo loyalists stifled all discussion with name calling.
>>109968357Im sure fes and expo will fix all the problems
>>109968864yeah, sure "loyalists", not shitposters.
>>109969190They actually believe what they post.
>>109968781I don't think you actually read the thread, that or you have lost basic ability to take things in stride and literally mentally freak out at anyone soberly discussing the realities of our situation or taking passing zings at each other and not getting banned for wrongthink. I don't give a fuck about anything in vtubing outside Holo (and never did) but also it feels like there is a tangible out of touch nature between what fans want, what at least some talents want(ed), and what Cover actually does. They sometimes make good calls and do put out very good events, but at the same time a world without holoearth or holostars or Niji moles in the company would be a far better one. Yagoo sounds fine (not gonna shed a tear if psycho antis who legit need to be institutionalized get what they deserve in Japan) but we have had years of empty pleasantries while things seem to not really be improving. What is odd to me is it seems like every single talent has a totally different experience and repoire behind the scenes which hardly feels corporate to me but rather unprofessional and unstandardized. Some report to have no serious beefs and love their managers, some quit and later tip off they were managed by Lucifer himself basically.
>>109969257sure.
>>109969353It's quite normal in big organizations. People in the same job don't always have the same experiences.
>>109968357Its so funny how you show in these threads, you really are just another holo anti making shit up huh outfitschizo
>>109969353It's a puff piece for their core audience (who are schizos, like in most fandoms) and you're normal. The schizos want to know that they are waging war against the heckin nijiniggers and they don't care about real issues like talent retention and that boring stuff.
>>109969682>another holo anti making shit up huh outfitschizoI think Hololive is better than Nijisanji but you have to a corpo bootlicker to argue there isn't shit going on between the EN talents and management. The signs of behind the scenes fights in recent months are not the grim levels of the 2022 "health" breaks but how else do you explain the Hololive EN twitter account? Cover isn't acting like "a trusted companion" that is "realizing the dreams of our talents" when they won't even tweet out announcements for birthday lives and 3D MV releases.
>>109969823>you're normal. The schizos want to know that they are waging war against the heckin nijiniggerswait>>109969353>without holostars or Niji molesAnon the post you're replying to is literally talking about waging war against the "heckin nijiniggers"
>>109965894>Cover won't even hire managers who are fans of HololiveJust hopping in to say that this would never matter and this tends to result in either some people getting neglected, or people getting /jealous angry about it working.For an example, NijiEN's managers were fans of the boys. And only the boys, which led their duties towards the girls to get neglected. And allegedly the one time it DID go "well" was with Holostars where the community managers were apparently working too efficiently to the point where people were getting upset that their constant work was making the girls look bad. (instead of being inspired to match their work ethic and do their job properly)
>>109971484>t. I made it all up in my head
>>109971645Which part do you think was made up, anon? Do you not remember the entire bitchfest about the HoloEN twitter?
>>109960639Yagoo is my oshi
>>109968357>Hololive EN twitter account completely ignored the birthday live for Bae and her first 3D MVAnd I thought Bae was one of the favorites because she lives in Japan and is very active. But I guess when even Yagoo kind of forgets about her . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3ODng4UrU . . even after all the shrilling Bae does for Hololive and them being on the same stage togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbsoMnr6H4Bae isn't a favorite EN like I thought.
>>109964948Kson thread?
>>109965407Do you like cute taso?
>>109960639Bunch of corpo PR mumbo jumbo that he has said before.
>>109973295>>109795682Notice the similarity of the ESL writing coming from the replies.
>>109964558
>>109965894Outfitschizo bot is getting a new talking point?
>>109975717It's actually validable anon. Talking to Holomems doesn't mean Haachama can come back. It's just like Ao case and Marine even said Ao will come back.
>>109975879>Talking to Holomems doesn't mean Haachama can come back.eh, if they say she can come back then she can probably come back. They were very clear in cases like Mel or Rushia that they could not come back.Question though is if she actually is mentally ready to come back, or if she even wants to. Another outburst wouldn't be good for holo or herself, and she probably needs to do some soul searching right now.
>>109971090You literally never any evidence for any of the things you claim, calling you out for your schizo bullshit doesn't make a corpo bootlicker and repeating the same shit over and over again won't make you're headcanons true
>>109961405>"easier time litigating critics" is a thing to be proud of.It isIt hasn't even been a full month since they basically blew up a racket of like 10 different Nijifags/general vtuber antis who ran ring of various different sock puppet accounts who's goal was harassing Miko over that Horse gambling shit It objectively a good thing a talent agency can actually protect it's talent, and trying obfuscate a harassment campaign as "critics" just reveals you to be disingenuous faggot
>>109969480>People in the same job don't always have the same experiences.The main issue is that no talent in Hololive wants to get on the bad side of management because there are hundreds of ways management can make their life Hell. They are not going to directly complain about management if they intend to stay in Hololive. When a vtuber works for a Japanese company everything depends on management and that is why Mumei had a bad last year since many of the things she asked for were either delayed or cancelled. She told fans that her birthday live wasn't what she wanted because she couldn't invite certain guests and that she had wanted her 1 million wish 3D outfit (which management kept delaying). If they are staying in Hololive it's a bad idea for a talent to get on the management shit list so take damage control even from talents with a grain of salt.>>109976474>realizing the dreams of our talents>Our commitment to standing alongside our talents will never waver>talents can continue to stand on stage with smiles on their faces years from now and beyond, and when needed, be a trusted companionCover was the one that made the mistake of releasing a damage control article only days after the Hololive EN twitter account ignored Bae's birthday live and her first 3D MV. I think Yagoo is good with interviews but actions speak louder than words. When Ina and Kronii do get model redesigns the obvious question a lot of fans will have is why it took Cover over 4 years to settle their disputes when they could rush out a redesign for Nenechi in only 5 months.
>>109977365>>realizing the dreams of our talents>>Our commitment to standing alongside our talents will never waver>>talents can continue to stand on stage with smiles on their faces years from now and beyond, and when needed, be a trusted companion>Cover was the one that made the mistake of releasing a damage control article only days after the Hololive EN twitter account ignored Bae's birthday live and her first 3D MV.NTA but are you unironically trying to suggest Hololive (lets face it, when you say "Cover" you really mean Holo but are trying to conceal how much an anti you sound lol) are failing to realize the dreams of Bae because a Twitter account (with less followers than her) didn't tweet about an MV she made (that's already at 1 million views in less than week) Do you understand how retarded you sound?
>>109977365kill yourself outfitschizo
>>109961433We just forced False to graduate, so, yes.
>>109977365Why don’t you just… gather up all of the failed sponsorships to besmirch the company? There are no shortage of partners that failed to crack 100 reviews with Cover’s help.
>>109977574>are failing to realize the dreams of Bae because a Twitter account (with less followers than her) didn't tweet about an MV she madeThat was the official Hololive EN twitter account that is run by Cover. So yeah I think it's relevant that management actions from only a few days ago (ignoring a birthday live and Bae's first 3D MV) directly contradict the damage control article they released today. I do believe Yagoo when he says that he is making improvements but what the EN twitter account did was vindictive corporate bullshit and will you defend management if they do the same thing to IRyS in a few weeks?>>109978132>Why don’t you just… gather up all of the failed sponsorships to besmirch the company?With the exception of Hololive shilling alcohol and gambling I don't have an issue with sponsorships. Cover is not a charity I don't understand why anyone would be upset with them earning money by shilling video games. I am somewhat skeptical whether the shilling does much good since the 2025 graduations burned away a lot of fan goodwill but I don't really consider it a negative.
>>109971713we know fag
>>109978738>That was the official Hololive EN twitter account that is run by Cover. So yeah I think it's relevant that management actionsThen it can't really be understated how monumentally retarded you are to equate Holo's managerial branch to the rando intern who's job is run that account
>>109978738>I don't understand why anyone would be upset with them earning money by shilling video gamesThe devs pay 1,000s for 50 sales at best. You could easily write a convincing Twitlonger that calls this a scam. Freeing the girls from the sponsor streams is a favor.
>>109978904>Freeing the girls from the sponsor streams is a favor.>it's bad that the girls are getting paid, actually. they should stop thatniji mentality
>>109978904>Freeing the girls from the sponsor streams is a favor.Sponsors are optional tho
>>109978952Does this look like consent to you? She did pushups to stall the 1 hour time limit.>>109978923Outfitschizo could easily pivot to the glacial pace of holoIndie which took so long to greenlight Gura Quest for Bread that Gura never got to stream it. Man should do a better job instead of writing all these analyses of the Twitter accounts.
>>109968781so go fuck off to the censored tower instead of shit the thread up. people like you are why any given thread sucks because you can't handle anyone disagreeing you. you want to leave, we want you to leave. it's win-win.
>>109976945obfuscating criticism as anything other than what it actually is makes you a disingenuous faggot.
>>109960639>Yagoo just redeemedThank you saar.
>>109977365>When Ina and Kronii do get model redesignsWhy are you still repeating this retardation over a year later? They aren't getting redesigns, Ina and Kronii already have alt outfits that they use more often than their originals.
>>109979922>Why are you still repeating this retardation over a year later?Only one year? Outfitschizo has been present in /∞/ and /wah/ since at least 2022. That is when people started to catch up with his bullshit. He has spend three years, soon four, repeating the same bullshit and never has been able to prove it.
>>109980114See this is why he should get new material. And a new home on Twitter. Those guys would eat his pastas.
>>109979423>Gura Quest for Bread that Gura never got to stream it.She never would've play it. Don't kid yourself. lmao
>>109980274They closed the drawbridge for devs but let MooCow Games in so it's not hard to make up more rrats.https://ccmc-corp.com/en/202602/105/
>>109962437that was right after Kanata's graduation
>>109960639This is the generic bullshit corpospeak he serves up every time some of the girls graduate. Reminder: he's been saying that they're totally "working on it" since the Coco graduation days. Most of /vt/ is VERY unfamiliar with japanese companies and their culture and how it entangles with japanese culture in general. He is saying all of this because people wanna hear it. It's often understood by those in the know that they do NOT have any intention to make major changes to their structure or the way they do things. You do things ONE WAY in Japan and that's it, there is no changing or improving. This is not me being a holo "anti" or whatever the fuck, I'm explaining how Japanese culture works. You have seen this with the JP girls too in a much less important way.>We should collab again!>Yeah we should!>[they don't collab again]Or the classic >I wanna learn english!>yeah, me too!>[they literally never even bother to speak a word of english ever again]It's lip service, just shit they say to throw words out there. It's what their public face says, while their private one means something else. Yagoo knows he isn't doing anything, it's just the way things are at the company and that's it. But he says nice things so the people feel at ease, nothing else. Japanese viewers absolutely know, though. It's the people over on this side that genuinely believe him that are a problem.
>>109980830NIJISEETHE
>>109980937it's getting old faggot, get a new material
>>109980980Stop seething, then.
>>109980830>You do things ONE WAY in Japan and that's it, there is no changing or improving.Most of the time with a Japanese corporation that is sadly accurate but a vtuber company is entirely dependent on their reputation. Hololive EN could lose most of their fans the same as Nijisanji EN if they kept losing talents. I think even Yagoo is aware that EN fans are less loyal to a brand name so changing because it's required is an exception to the rule that Japanese management never makes changes.
>>109960639Same thing he's said the last 2 shareholder meetings ,kanata graduated after these lmao
>>109960907No one cares about managers, if raising their salaries means a 3d concert needs to get canceled fans would bitch about it to no end. Managers are invisible when things are going well, but the first to get thrown under the bus when shit hits the fan.
>>109962699Because they're not fans of the vtubers that work at the company but instead fans of the corporate instead.
>>109981545The sad truth is HoloEN and HoloID only exist to potentially direct fans to the main branch. I mean look at the opportunities that EN and ID get vs JP and to a much lesser extent, DEV_IS. Not to sound like I am doing Holo vs Holo, but facts don’t take sides. You can also apply this logic to Niji since their (now dead) KR and ID branches folded into JP since that is what they were made for and EN will too once they finally kick the bucket.
Why do we CEO worship Yagoo the same way Nijisis’ worship Riku but then accuse nijisis of liking the company and not the talents? Seems like its very much the same thing.
>>109983833>we
>>109960639Based Yagod
>>109983833because NIJISEETHE
>>109960639No he hasn't. Talk is cheap. Politicians and businessmen lie constantly and never stop.
>>109983736Nope. ID and EN and the Homos only exist to leech off the main branch. They are a bigger waste than holoearth.
>>109985820you lost jpiggy?
>>109960827Why does Cover pay so low that they can only afford shitty managers?
they should sue this place
>>109979922>They aren't getting redesigns, Ina and Kronii already have alt outfitsSo did Astel, Flare, and Kaela but they wanted model redesigns. Shion had 7 outfits that she could use besides the pedobait witch outfit but still decided to quit because Cover wouldn't give her a redesign. The default outfit is used in most generic merch, until recently was the standard in 3D lives, and is how the character is defined in Hololive lore and marketing. That is why it was really noticeable that no one in Myth used their default outfit in their 5th anniversary because that was a major change for Hololive. That is one reason I believe Yagoo when he says that improvements will be made. I am really cynical after the graduation wave in 2025 but the drop in numbers unironically gives management a financial reason to avoid losing more talents (and their fans).
>>109988733I noticed that you dropped Saba from this that returned with a even more loli coded design.Stop it, it has been 4 years and you have been right in nothing of what you said.
>>109961087>>109961140>>109964088>>109964149>>109973326
>>109963724>Manager was a talent's comrade back the n and not bossing around like now with Cover's maze.You don't watch Hololive.
>>109964397I like how awkward English phrases give people a good whiff of what 3rd world shitposting region you're from.
>>109985666 You'd know Holo members themselves have talked about this stuff, if you weren't a filthy nijifaggot.
>>109988826NTA but Saba almost immeaditly made a model change to slightly de- lolify her model. But at this point, Saba barely exists beyond anything but a failing marketing character.
>>109991045>Saba almost immeaditly made a model change to slightly de- lolifyOutfitschizo, please.
>>109960783Same. I get Hololive/Cover isn't perfect and I'm sure there's plenty they can improve behind the scenes, but it's not like they're "corrupt" or something.
>>109988826>I noticed that you dropped Saba from this that returned with a even more loli coded design.Cover was asking for that pedobait daki and carefully watch the stream where Gura had to shill it. She was uncomfortable while talking about how it was dressed with signs that she was embarrassed. Gura was careful about wearing her vtuber mask but the recent thread about girl_dm and how she almost quit being a vtuber because of sexual comments does feel relevant. Do you think Saba is okay with degenerate coomers getting horny for her design when Saba looks even younger than Gura? When you compare Gura's first year of streaming with her first year as Saba do you really believe she is okay with the lolicon stuff?>>109924456
>>109992728Outfitschizo...be very careful now...
>>109961012People not being willing to put up with their jobs is though. People would stick around and they could pick and choose the good managers and dump the shitty ones. Instead the good ones leave and they're stuck with only shitty ones.
>>109992728>S-she was uncomfortable bro trust meGod you can't be serious outfitschizo
>>109992728Sure, schizo. Any minute now, right? >>37283097
>>109960783at least the jp recognizes there's problem, stop being a faggot anon
>>109998270He talked same shit like this with Akutan graduate.
>>109995929https://youtu.be/yp2wvsYGSyQ?t=2393https://youtu.be/yp2wvsYGSyQ?t=2513https://youtu.be/yp2wvsYGSyQ?t=3710Gura saying that she had "chubby baby arms" while discretely calling it yabe sure makes it feel like she was embarrassed that Cover was making her shill a pedobait daki. Ame had to rerelease her daki for the Hololive affiliate deal but it was noticeable that Gura never rereleased her daki even for her graduation. Strange how coomers say that she loved that daki but her actions indicate otherwise.>>109996584>Any minute now, right? >>37283097https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/37158616/#q37273728That actually shows that I wasn't the only anon in /wah/ who expected Ina to get a model redesign though I don't think anyone expected management to delay it for over 3 years. Gura and Ame both released dakis only a few months after Ina had that 2022 "health" break so a lot of behind the scenes deals were getting made but the actual redesign was delayed over and over and over again. Don't forget that even the Hololive EN project director was vaguely talking about change in December 2023:>Change undoubtedly feels slow sometimesーespecially coupled with inertia from continuous growth, and public scrutiny hanging over everythingーbut I feel that everyone at COVER is still trying their best, both to continue making good decisions and rectifying bad ones.
>>109989862Show your Holomerch and your membership now
>>109960639>but due to recent dramaswhat drama?
>>109960783slow it down on the cocksucking you'll choke
>>109998453NIJISEETHE
>>109989897Holy newfag
>>109998393It's amazing how pretty much all you're arguments stem from vague feelings and making shit up as well as projecting you're own bullshit on the talents
>>109998439Taso....and Miko GC drama and Pekomiko war.
>>109998665Because we are real fan who really watch talents so we can notice something unlike corpobootlicker.
>>109998740elaborate
>didnt do anything for years>but now it's bothering Miko so we'll do something about itNaruhodo...
>>110002236Miko's been getting slandered by antis for years, and they did nothing, not until they sued some anti drawing cuck fanart of pehoera lol
>>1099983934 years schizo, take your meds or blow your head. The choice is yours.
>Yagoo just spouted a bunch of vague PR babbleWow, fascinating.
>>109961069>Do we have to have the whole idol thing for EVERYONE?As Shiori once said if both the fanbase and the talent don't want to do the idol thing the girl can remain a streamer and only do fes stuff.
>>109961647I heard something similar when gura announced her graduation.
>>109960639Responsible management is why Hololive remains on top, while Nijisanji is a perpetual dumpsterfire.
>>110002689It did put a pretty big dent in their image. Not that it made them look bad necessarily, but the monolithic respect as the ultimate goal of all vtubers was greatly diminished.
>>109998962Jp Heimins lost trust with taso graduation Anti-v attacked Miko with GC drama shitThe worse is Pekomiko wars really make some Holofags attack another Holofags for real this time.
>>109998393What good is making an analysis for randoms on 4chan? You really should pack up your bags and go elsewhere to enact a meaningful change. There's noting left to do with anons.
>>110002689Not this time anon... They promise about Haachama's come back and Haachama really want to come back and after Kanata graduation, JP Holofags're colder more to management side. Heimins don't turn to full anti mode it's miracle by itself.
>>109961647Retard.
>>110005938Look at JP Twitter anon... they are fucking cold with Cover like now...this never happen like this scale before.
>>110005982kys
>>109960639Yagoo can suck my dick, fucking buffoon. Time for a CEO change.
>>109960639is the welfare getting cutor is that still a pipe dream for the fans
>>109964134hololivers weren't invited to Newtown
>>109961012not everything is... but a fucking job 100% is. Fucking retard.
>>109960907she got a salary cut because she had 1 less talent to manage (just joking)
You can't really shrill about " antis antis antis" while also going from "our purest talent" to "whore and traitors " the moment they graduate. The core vitriolic holodrone, and i mean holodrone not the actual fans are reactionaries who feel justified in acting like they pressed the autoselect button for team changes in team fortress 2. Even fucking A-chan leaving went from we trust her to she is a whore. There is no honor in these people and yagoo should turn his lawyers against these types of specimens. He won't because there is no actual honor in what he is doing, he doesn't care for his talents and he only wants to silence the people giving criticisms to the company. Haachama is next and the cult will react the same to her as they did before and then put their masks back on like they are honorable fans of the medium
>>109960639Words are cheap
