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>>110534043So mean to me. I cri
>>110534405I was going to shitpost but after yesterday I better not
>>110534739I’ll post enough for the both of us
>>110534739You can go nuts man, I don’t really mind, I find it funny as hell. Some of the shitposting yesterday was hilarious.
>>110534921Aw that's very thoughtful of you lol >>110534924I will admit it was funny but damn I never thought 1 single post would spark that kind of shitposting anomaly
https://x.com/PillowHoney/status/2036825179830079571Cute voice post alert
>>110535054I love how she talks when she’s just yapping and being all ADHD.
>>110535032I think the thread is just generally bored and likes having something to talk about. I was responding kinda seriously because I didn’t want any schitzophrenic blowback on Pillow, but I’ve come around to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter and it’s just shitposting
>>110528967You inspired me to draw my own Willow as morning practice. >using referenceAh yeah you should really always use one. Not saying to trace over it but I think CSP also has a reference window. It helps you learn while you still aren't as confident in your lines or shapes.>>110535054Very cute. I like that we are both from the South. Makes me feel closer to her.
>>110535172Same, me and her were raised in very similar ways, ver close to each other, at the same time. Makes her relateable
>>110535159Don't worry if push comes to shove I wouldn't have a meltdown on Pillow instead I would just leave quietly and remove all traces of my existence and hope she doesn't notice.
Pillow’s little back dimples just above her pale butt
>>110535319I hope that day never comes, but I appreciate that you're accommodating.
>>110535172Nice drawing piwwo
>>110535172You’re getting really good at faces
Would love to watch Pil play more Pokopia, even if she's quiet for most of it.
>>110535945That was a really comfy stream so I agree.
>>110535650Thank you. Drawing Willow is so fun. I recommend everyone does it at least once.>>110535688Well that's probably because I draw Pillow's face all the time. It's the part I want to make perfect the most.It helps also that she has a good design with simple yet impactful parts (which was intentional based on that one interview she did). I've wanted to make a "How 2 Draw Pillow" graphic for a while and see piwwos follow along. I feel like I've been able to identify the key elements of her standard appearance.
I’d like another drawing/doodling stream where she teaches us and gives useful tips. I also want ‘work with me’ streams and just hear her typing, eating and occasionally mumble to herself. I don’t even expect her to chat with us, I just want her around so she feels with me if that makes sense. The GFE is more real when you’re spending time together like that, instead of her feeling like every stream has to be super entertaining or an event or fresh idea. Mundane content is the good shit when you’re hopelessly parasocial like us lol
>>110535172Why did you have to mog me so hard?
>>110536178>I've wanted to make a "How 2 Draw Pillow" graphic for a while and see piwwos follow along.That would be really cool and I would try following it if you did.
>>110535463Well thankfully Pillow is what I've been looking for in an oshi so I really don't want to leave her if I can help it. Plus she's very caring and sweet so I just don't wanna hurt her ever.
>>110535945I enjoy watching her play pokopia
>>110535172sex
pil
No way Pillow is doing yoga on Saturday morning
>>110540090If she is then I have a valid reason to get up on Saturday
>>110540090I think she wanted an excuse to use that art for a thumbnail.
>>110540090>>110540345She's done yoga before. It's not unheard of.
https://x.com/PillowHoney/status/2036900491339104523>I might consider doing something like a crowd fund for a drawing tablet on throne…Not what I would've expected, but she deserves it
pillow has mustered the courage to ask for something expensivewill piwwos step up?
at first I thought drawing for pillow was just a fun hobby, but it seems she takes it more seriouslycute
>>110541447To be fair, she’s her own VTuber artist. She needs to be a damn good artist for that
>>110541487oh true, somehow I completely forgot she has made her own model and other assets
>>110541447She draws her own models, emotes, assets, thumbnails, and other things. Shes drawing every day all the time
Pillow is worried about expenses. Have we failed her?
>>110542071She’s been limiting how much we can donate since the year has started. I hate to blame her, but she’s really done this to herself at a time where she needs money more than anything. She’s really gonna struggle to fund her next outfit if she keeps this up. I really hope she realizes how much of a bad idea capping donos has been
>>110542113(me)That said, I’m broke as shit and having the roughest year of my life so far. I have no room to speak since I’m down in the shit right now and can’t help her. I hope I can do something for her soon, though
>>110542071it's interesting she really doesn't have any serious oiler gachi she can rely on despite the "inner circle" memes
>>110542113>She’s really gonna struggle to fund her next outfit if she keeps this upshe will rather starve than let that happen
>>110542187Lots of her gachi tend to be on the younger side, so they’re still in college or trying to start careers. I think there’s only one gachi that has money but he only seems to spend it on art commissions
Was CJ a legit paypig when he was active? It felt like he was able to send a lot despite Pil's self sabotage. I may need to step up.
>>110542234(me)Piwwos in general just tend to be pretty young. There’s plenty who are still in high school, and the most prominent ones are still in their early 20s actually. I don’t think there’s many who are actually that old despite the ojisan jokes
>>110542267The biggest paypigs for Pillow had serious issues. CJ would frequently drop 50 membership gifts on top of frequently commissioning art and making a whole lot of other things for her, including a fan website. It’s a shame he ended up going down a negative route. There was another paypig of hers that ended up getting banned off everything for continuously harassing other Piwwos and shit talking Pillow and Piwwos in other communities. He actually got banned from another community just days before he got perma banned from Pillow’s community. He was a real shitter, but he had money
>>110542267She’s never had any actual paypigs I don’t think. I’m pretty sure she’s explicitly told some Piwwos to stop donating so much when she gets worried about their wallets.
>>110542267>CJ was the necessary evilMaybe I judged him too harshly... it's kinda crazy to think that people like CJ are probably a considerable reason why she made it this far.
>>110542234>on the younger sidepillow wants stacked ojisans confirmed!
>>110542268>I don’t think there’s many who are actually that old despite the ojisan jokesspeak for yourself, I know what VHS is
>>110542425Nigga my family had one and I'm younger than Pillow. Just say you're rich.
>>110542331I don't understand the concept of hate spending of the mentioned banned guy ngl
>>110542349>Maybe I judged him too harshlyLet's not do this revisionism. He was self-centered attention whore who frequently hurt Pillow with his crashouts. The money wasn't worth the hassle of dealing with him.
>>110542456He just sounds mentally ill. I'd be down to give him another chance as long as he unironically takes meds or something.
>>110542349I know this will probably come across as insensitive or cynical, but vtubing and gfe vtubing in general kinda relies on attracting and maintaining at least the minimum number of pay-piggies, I hope pillow manages to attract more with new debut and other projects
>>110542450Extreme mental illness. I’m not sure why I’m vague posting, but the guy was named Meo. He got banned last year btw and only gave up on trying to be with Pillow earlier this year btw. He had a crash out on Twitter earlier this year when the thread started talking about him and everything he had done to get banned, that was pretty funny
>>110542448I'm older than 30, but sure kiddo pop off
>>110542493there's slim chance he actually gets treatment and comes back
>>110542508You're right and it's true really of all streamers. I was watching a separate stream and some guy came in trying to become the top all time donator. Vrand new and said he came in only from watching youtube clips. He ended up dropping a total of like 4.5k subs over a week before the real top paypig came in and fought back. Ultimately, you need money to put on the show. If Pillow feels bad about taking money, she can donate it later or reinvest it all into outfits and art.
MEO WE LOVE YOU
>>110542493There's no fixing someone like that. GFE chuubas are only going to make him worse, it's better he stays gone.
>>110542570Sure, but I would still hear him out. He's not irredeemable because he fucked up regarding a vtuber.>>110542637Idk. A lot of people her say they want to be with Pillow despite all her problems. They only say that because they want to fuck, but I'm just extending that same kindness to a fellow retard.
>>110542637Hey I'm officially schizoid and manage to not lash out publicly while continuing to support pill, no one is doomed for eternity
>>110542689>They only say that because they want to fuckthat's really low view of fellow piwwos
>>110542743It's true though. If Pillow was a man, would you help him or stick through his mental problems or "fix him" (like some have said about Pillow)? No. You accept Pillow because she is a cute girl. It's not like CJ raped or killed anyone. Same goes for Meo, PapaNovember, and even Ino.
I hope these guys are still here...
>>110542786But Ino didn’t even do anything :(
I'm getting new job next month, I will try to donate on her throne if available
>>110542823(me)wait I have zero reading comprehension my bad
>>110542786we love pillow for much more than just being a cute girl, don't reduce her into some shallow stereotype.
>>110542916Then if Pillow was a man but all else was the same, would you treat malePillow the same as you do now? You know the answer which is why I'm asking this twice.
>>110542187she doesn't encourage gachis at all, member content is basically non existent, there are no perks of being at the top as she tries to treat everyone equallythat's not usually how GFEtubers work
>>110542987are you asking if I'm gay? I don't deny that I treat my love interest (pillow) differently from others after all she's special.
>>110542992There are no official perks but she does treat her top piwwos nicer. That's not a problem and it's just gonna happen naturally, but it's very clear if you spend the time to be well-known you will be treated better. Pillow just doesn't put a price tag on it. You don't have to drop 20 gifted memberships for a twitter follow or whatever.
Desire for romance and intimacy goes beyond just wanting to pound her pussy, but yes also I would never treat a guy like her because I’m not gay. This isn’t rocket science.
>>110543096Her love language is time, she cares much more about if a Piwwo shows up to streams than if they give her money.
>>110543037You inability to answer this question twice now just shows you are being obtuse or just retarded. But I'll phrase it more simply:If Pillow was male (either she revealed she was the whole or this is an alternate universe or whatever you want), would you still want to support him through his mental health struggles?
>>110543137 (me)I should also add, would you support him at the same intensity?
>>110543137I would, but not to the same degree because I'm not gay and I fell in love with pillowdear as she currently is
>>110543096can you give examples of nicer treatment? do you mean twitter replies? that's not exactly what I meant
>>110543137This is always a dumb hypothetical. Would I still treat Pillow the same if she wasn't actually Pillow? No of course not. What next, would you still love me if I was a worm?
>>110543221How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
>>110543175I think it's perfectly reasonable and legitimate to recognize that men have no interest in other men beyond pure entertainment, and even if you're not committing to being a full gachi, most men watch vtubers because on some level they want the girl to date them.
>>110542788I am here
> if pillow gave more attention to whales then you guys would shcizo post
>>110543266They just spent 2 days schitzo posting over some shit that wasn't even real.
>>110543262Yeah. You're putting it into words better than me. This is why I said that piwwos only want to stay with Pillow and "fix her" because she is a cute girl. For example, if she was a man and posted the NTR art of a female piwwo getting stolen (which Pillow did), they wouldn't have been all sweet. They would just call malePillow a cuck lmao.
>>110543266that's the thing, there has to be a balance and pillow has been on more cautious end for it for better or worsethere are always positives and negatives with every scenario
>>110543330Men and women are different Holy fuck this is groundbreaking
>>110543330Yeah, Piwwos are just being defensive because of how you're framing it. The difference in levels of support between male and female vtubers makes it pretty obvious the dynamics at play.
>>110543330that's moronic thought experiment and doesn't even make senseit's much more than her just being a girlz of course it's part of it but don't reduce this to some in inceldom "women get everything served" nonsense
>>110543376Yeah, but you kept having a problem with that message despite me saying that the entire time. If you have a problem with how I present my message despite me being entirely correct, say that kek.
>>110543410>The difference in levels of support between male and female vtubers makes it pretty obvious the dynamics at playI seen what female gachi of GFE maletubers commit and it's more extreme than one could ever imagine, they would jump of the bridge if their oshi told them so
>>110543410Yeah, it's insane some anon telling me I have a "low view of fellow piwwos" when we literally have the same opinion on this. I want to support Pillow because she is a woman and I like supporting women. If any of the male creators pulled the stuff she does, I would laugh in their faces.
>>110542689>>110542786>>110542987>>110543137I treat men and women differently because men and women are different and I'm a straight man. If Pillow was a man, I wouldn't be romantically interested in her so I'd be less affectionate towards her, and I'd feel less inclined to support her because I expect men to do more for themselves.But the drive isn't sexual. I would accept a completely sexless but loving romantic relationship with Pillow, hypothetically. Sure, sex would be great, but there's more to loving someone than that.
>>110543266I wish she opened up Patreon again, I want to feel like I'm getting something more for spending on pillow besides good boy points
>>110543419When did I say that? Quote to me when I said that.
>>110543467Very true, but there's just not that many of them compared to guys.>>110543479If any male vtuber was infantilizing themselves like Pillow and constantly saying they love chat, I'd call them a variety of slurs. Pillow however, is my precious wife.
>>110543419>nonsenseHoly bluepill Pillow talked into her shitty outdated iPhone mic maybe once every month and it earned her enough money to afford an apartment all on her own. Get real.
>>110543511To be honest she should do more for channel members too. I downgraded mine to lil piwwo because the member streams are so infrequent and they're the only reason I'm still a member.
>>110543479>I want to support Pillow because she is a woman and I like supporting womenthat's incredible stupid, it's much more than her being a woman. don't reduce her purely to gender. I wouldn't support every girl at my sight. pillow is special
>>110543481>basically agrees with me 99.999%>has a problem because I said fuck instead of loveGoddamnit at least be a little less autistic about every word.>>110543574Obviously I don't support any woman for being female. If not I would be broke and not be able to afford internet. But my fault, I worded that poorly.
>>110543531retard
>>110543570>she should do more for channel members tooshe's probably already too busy with all other projects and doesn't like the pressure of trying to to do member stuff
>>110543626concession accepted
>>110543626Look I think he is being a little dishonest but be for real, a young boy in Pillow's situation would've never gotten out of that situation.
>>110543617>Goddamnit at least be a little less autistic about every word.It's a pretty important distinction. I just responded to what you said. Say what you mean next time.
>>110543665I am a month older than her and was basically in her situation. I just joined the military.
>>110543675If I said you had to work to keep a roof over your head, you would be the type to say "what if I want to go camping? No roofs in a tent."
I said this before but when she mentions stuff like watch alongs, grays say “can you do it unlisted instead” or something along those lines. She probably feels bad doing members content because grays make her feel bad for doing it because they ask her not to. She has been doing more members stuff lately though and expressed she would like to do more
don't belittle or minimize pillow's past suffering and trauma you entitled faggots
>>110543657They obvious solution for her, and would fix her money issues quite a bit, would just be getting rid of lil' Piwwo tier since it gives her about 0.40 cents every month, then just replacing one of her streams every week with a membas. She'd feel mean doing that though.
>>110543657Which is fine because a membership is so cheap, but if she needs money she could try to do more for members to justify raising the minimum subscription.>>110543701No, I would understand that extremely common idiom. You already said we agree so stop trying to argue with me.
>>110543688>talking about pillow recording asmr with an astronomically shitty set up>a male asmr creator with that set up should just join the militaryBait or mental retardation?
>>110543717>She has been doing more members stuff lately though and expressed she would like to do moreI'd forgotten that to be honest. I hope she follows through.>>110543720Yes, I'd be more than happy to pay a little extra each month for more member content and to support her.
>>110543745I know, I'm agreeing with you man, a dude in her situation has to do something much more extreme.
>>110543733>so stopNah now that I realize how retarded you are with you bullshit, I'm gonna rub your nose in it.
>>110543570the problem is pillow psychology, she's people pleaser through and through, having to exclude someone just because they don't pay up clashes with her personal views and values immensely
>>110543767My fault Ovis.>>110543777Yeah, she's gotta get over that. I don't care if she is bleeding simps like me dry. Get that bag, queen
>>110543758I think she also has the issue where she feels like members content has to provide more value per stream than a regular stream, she doesn't realize that usually the coziness of having a slower chat and Pillow being able to be more open is all we need to feel like members streams are worth the money.
>>110543821Have you watched her members streams? They are purposely low quality
Women shouldn't have to work. You shouldn't be resentful of the fact that the woman you love is able to make a living playing video games, drawing, doing fun little craft projects and chatting with you.>>110543777Yes, I know it's very unlikely that she'd do something like that, but maybe that issue with her flight will make her reconsider.>>110543821Yes, what makes the member streams special is the more intimate atmosphere, not what she's doing.
>>110543876Unmarried women should be compelled to do hard labor in the salt mines to force them to get a damn husband (me)
I think Pillow needs someone to help her with the more routine content creator stuff. Like an editor/producer type who can improve the output and generally take the load off. And hopefully she is female so she can help me take a load off too.
>>110543688>just sell your soul to netanyahu bro
>>110543814>I don't care if she is bleeding simps like me dry. Get that bag, queenbut you just know at least one poorfag would crash out and call her hwore or something for daring to monetize her fans more
>>110543916Pillow should be sent to negotiate with Iran. She would have solved this whole situation by now.>>110543928Oh of course. They would make some melodramatic post about how "Pillow has changed" and threaten to leave.
>>110543928How dare she only give us 99% of her content for free, I want 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>110543876>Women shouldn't have to workexcept housework and tending to me of course
>>110543974Of course bro. The blowjobs justify me paying their rent.
>>110543916>military le badlibtard alert
>>110544006No need to dog on them. The goybeam is already powering up.
>>110543995ah the landlord's privilege, the modern droit du seigneur/jus primae noctis
>>110543907I don't know what I'm talking about, but what does she need an editor/producer for? Most of her content is livestreamed. I suppose they could make shorts, compilation videos and that sort of thing to attract new viewers, but that wouldn't help her with her workload, and clippers already do that for free.
She's live by the wayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd4mikqG6_k
okay hear me outone pillow feet pic once two months that is only accessible for literal oilbarons
>>110544116She needs a manager who also cooks her food and massages her feet. And it should be me.
>>110544135>I'll not get cucked by watching her draw other m*les even if they are piwwo
>>110544149I wouldn't feel bad about paying for IRL outfit pics (no face obviously) and other cute SFW stuff like that (not feet).>>110544176You can just ask her to draw you piwwo. I already got mine last time.
Pillow is a baby.
>>110544149GIVE IT TO ME GIVE IT TO ME GIVE IT TO ME NOW
>>110544255She's better than that piwwo
>>110544255piwwo is going FERAL
>>110544247chat is this real?
I'm still sad about no karaoke btw
I wish I could be Pillow’s boytoy that she uses exclusively for stress relief and molesting me but secretly hates me as a person
>>110544427Me too piwwo, but she'll do another one eventually
>>110544487as we know she bites a lot and also has expressed cute aggression, secret hate is the unrealistic part
>>110543129>she cares much more about if a Piwwo shows up to streamsIt's over for me
>>110544749she loves her lurkers and VOD piwwo as well, don't worry
When I see Piller,I wanna fill'er!
Do you guys like Pillow's lispy baby voice? I just want to eat her up.
>>110544779True I'm just being dramatic for no reason lol.Anyways how's the stream going? I've been stuck at work for an extra hour so I haven't been able to watch or anything yet.
>>110544824It's cute, but I also like when she talks more normally or in her deep voice. I just love her.
>>110544829Her brains a lil slow today, very cute
>>110544876Nice I enjoy her cute slowness. Now I have something to look forward to when I finally get home.
>>110544824>baby voiceuoh TuT
>>110545306cute glasses
My wife is being extra retarded today <3
Pillow loves my tiny, little nub
you're gonna wear the piwwo ear headband in public right? you're gonna take cute pics for pillow right?
>getting jealous based on how detailed each piwwo's design isYeah I might have to log off
>>110544824I want to eat her up and doing so much to her
>>110546691To be fair, some are easier to detail than others. That’s why I don’t even ask, my pfp and name are just way too lame
>>110546691That's how I feel about mine but a basic one is better than nothing at all
>>110536844Here is the "How 2 Draw Pillow" guide I made. Obviously, it is just the face and a little simple, but I think it would be cool if piwwos tried it. Seems fitting to drop it right now during the drawstream.
I hope piwwos dressed their best for the stream today.
>>110547028I am listening to her from work so not my best but enjoy hearing her happy
>>110547067Good enough!
Hearing her voice fills my sac with my urge to impregnate her
she hates my guts because they keep me alive
why is she wearing a shower cap in her 3.0?
Making Olive and Pillow kiss (both uncomfortable) while I watch from my yuri throne.
>>110548277Is there a bit of tongue action going on too or what?
>>110548277Somebody needs to commission Olive and Pillow passionately kissing while both nude
>>110547016>as that is more typical of mensir, your chud is showing This is really cool though. I'll give it a shot later.
>>110548446We're all chuds here.
>>110548446>your chud is showingDid you forget what website you're on, nigger?
>>110549022>>110549083I just don't want a troonwwo to flip out on him if he decides to post it to twitter. Relax.
>>110549139I already filtered the troonwwos a while ago, what did you think the crashout they had was about?
>>110549139Pillow is not stupid. She can tell when someone is fishing for drama. If you think she's streamed for this long without any meaningful controversy by luck alone, you're mistaken.
>>110549153you were the one sexually harassing spider? dude what the fuck
>>110549472Sexually harassing? Why would anyone want to sexually harass a troon?
>>110549542That's a good ass question
>>110549472When did you insufferable discord trannies invade the thread? Stop talking about these people. We don't care what their names are, and we don't want to hear about them.
>>110549643They've been here for awhile they're just getting more and more aggressive since Pillow silently denounced them and the discord with her officially leaving it.
>>110548446Lmao but it's true. I don't really care about any troonwos freaking out. What are they gonna do? Ban me from the fan discord?I'm glad you're gonna try it. Tried to make the guide as easy to follow as I could.
>>110549955>Pillow silently denounced them and the discord with her officially leaving it.Was there a lot of them in there?
>>110550119The most prominent Piwwos and several of her gachis were in the Discord server. I think Pillow only stood down from the server because she couldn’t stand to see the infighting that was happening in it. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Pillow abandoned the server right around the time one of her gachis was banned and several Piwwos started speaking up against him
>>110550119Maybe I never joined the discord for obvious reasons but I also don't stalk profiles so I can't reliable say they are a lot of them or not but definitely a few at least like most discord servers.
>>110550119I only have secondhand reports but there was a story where Pillow did a stream titled "I'm an egg" and someone on the discord was really sad because "egg" is slang for a pre-transition troon and he though Pillow was gonna troon out like him.
>>110550288Those freaks look for anything to headcanon people being mentally ill like them pillow would be better off if she told them all to hang themselves
>>110550288No way, is this also the comfy morning stream that got mysteriously (and silently) deleted a while back? The timeline would line up perfectly.
>>110549955I remember during the Cher drama there was a sudden flood of posts while American piwwos were going to bed that were suddenly defending the mods or saying Cher "had it coming." It was bizzare because they were flooding the thread with it and anyone who criticized them was told to "move on" and even a few "incels" were thrown around. Either europiwwos are omegacucked or they do coordinate posts when sensing wrongthink.
>>110550403I remember that. It was definitely organized. Same group of people that freaked out when I said she has a much higher vocal range than she chooses to use.
>>110550424kill yourself
>>110550435Take your meds discord tranny.
>>110550403Organized raids are pretty common especially on /vt/. But the europiwwos could have had a hand in it.
>>110550349Yeah. I sense that they probably want to make her some kind of nonbinary because of her messed up childhood. This is also why there are piwwos insistent that she absolutely is an "anti-capitalist liberal" when we were just joking she was a chud. Luckily we are good and Pillow doesnt believe that. I remember how she ghosted that one troon vtuber after ASMR Parade 1.>>110550373Yes, that is the one. There is also that troon someone named a bit back that quit being a piwwo. I forget why exactly, but he threw a fit because we werent inclusive or harrassed women or whatever.
>>110550424>>110550403It happened right after the mods woke up too, they were definitely samefagging hard
>>110550435By the way, there's nothing at all wrong with what I said. I know you're a fake fan and don't actually listen to her ASMR, because if you did, you'd know I'm right.https://files.catbox.moe/rdqytc.mp4Pillow has incredible vocal range. She's done stories like this where she convincingly plays multiple characters. That's just a fact. You can dilate over it.
>>110550403Cher divided the core Piwwo community and it hasn’t recovered since. He forced Pillow to step away from a place that she built from the ground up. Pillow loved that server, and now she’s completely abandoned it because of him. Cher couldn’t keep himself in check, and everybody is feeling the consequences of his actions. Everybody /here/ is going to deeply regret ever supporting him soon, just watch.
>>110550511Pillow mentioned at one point that around the time when she became a vtuber, she ended up getting rid of basically every single online friend except for like 3 girls, because in her words “They weren’t very good for me or to me”. I wouldn’t doubt at all if she basically had a bunch of gays trying to groom her on Discord and ended up just leaving her whole social group over it, she seems like the type to me to be able to pick up on that sort of thing.
>>110550566He ruined Discord meet and greets for all of us as well. We’re not going to get the chance to talk to Pillow one on one like before because of him, and only because of him.
>>110550566>supporting himWhy are you acting like he's also a streamer? Just because we like Pillow lewds doesn't mean we "support" anybody. Stop being such a divisive prick and creating this fantasy LARP Piwwo civil war.Shut the fuck up!
Oh boy here we fucking go again
>>110550566Bad bait. At least I hope.>>110550530I think you are a bit too insistent with the whole voice thing, but I do agree with you. Just because she can voice act doesn't make her a liar or evil or a traitor.
>>110550566Okay Discord Mod. Considering that Pillow herself acknowledged that most of the frequent Discord users didn’t even watch her content or show up to streams, I’d say this thread is actually far more in line with being real fans of her. The Discord can’t even keep the Pillow threads on-topic about Pillow, they just treat her as an excuse to hang out.
One of her best friends who she literally went to visit last year is non binary
>>110550619>>110550530The only reasonable take on it is that Pillow puts energy and effort into her voice, like every other entertainer, which leads to a higher register. She isn’t necessarily changing her voice on purpose, and you can tell since her voice is still very high and childlike even during maximum chill streams like Pokotopia.
>>110550619>Just because she can voice act doesn't make her a liar or evil or a traitor.Nobody is saying that. We're all here because we like Pillow. There are so many incredulous schizos here that freak out at the drop of a hat when you mention her voice. I think her voice is lovely, I wouldn't have been watching her ASMR for five years if I didn't. I just wish she'd experiment a little more.
>>110550636Nobody said she hates fags, we’re saying she doesn’t like groomers. This is why nobody likes you.
>>110550636Yeah, and that is why the zoo vlog never came out. #deeplore>>110550584Didn't know that. Good for her but seems sad that groomers always seem to follow. It makes sense though. Pillow is the type of girl who a lot of bad people think is weak enough to manipulate to their cause. Remember that when Cher was banned, mods admitted to the tripfag that "Pillow was in discussions." Can't imagine the bullshit mod chat she had to worry over.
>>110550636We are talking about people who are cutting up children dicks and chemically castrating them. That is not the same as a "non binary" (whatever that means) friend who sucks a dick or whatever from time to time.
>>110550673Am I the only one who remembers that her only deep voice stream was after Ovis teased her about being squeaky
>>110550686Different girl
>>110550673I agree with you dude. What I meant was that anyone who ever brings up the voice thing is seen as an anti. I meant that schizowwos will believe you are calling her a liar or manipulator for pointing out the voice. Man I really need to proofread my posts.
>>110550740I didn't proofread for college, I'm not gonna proofread for 4chan.Total piller love.Total dramafaggot death.
I think someone just needs to clip the part in her QA stream where she explained why she sounds different and how she’s happier with her voice now. She’s acknowledge she sounds different and explains it. Just send it to antis
>>110550740Yeah, I think you two both agree with each other, you’re just used to fighting weird schitzos who think she’s using a voice changer
>>110550721>deep voice stream after her boyfriend made fun of herI'm gonna kill myself>>110550733Oh you mean jazzy then?
>>110550721Can I get a TLDR who this Ovis faggot is? Are you just NTRing yourself and cuckposting or is there more to this? And when did Piwwos start namefagging so much? First the Cher retard and now this guy. Nobody here wants to know your username...
>>110550782Well a lot of it is my fault. I kinda type ina stream of consciousness style so I my point kinda gets lost. Oh well, we ball.>>110550845Ovis is literally here. He is our Damascus.
>>110550782Not him but those voice schizos make no sense to me at all
>>110550845He's the namefag who tweeted a couple of days ago that Pillow dmed him four times after he missed a single stream
>>110550870I don't know who that is though. That name means nothing to me. >>110550889Well, did she? There have always been schizos harassing her on twitter. Is he acting like it's special or something? Do newer piwwos not know she used to have her DMs publicly open?
>>110550903Nobody knows if she did and we can't really know. Part of it is he is a little annoying sometimes always mentioning her on twitter when he knows she egosearches. It's not bad but it can get a little tiring.
>>110550903her dms have been closed for years. considering he went into damage control mode and deleted the tweet as soon as piwwos started flipping out about it, it was probably meant to be kept secret.
>>110550845Yeah he's a cuckposter that is always namedropping piwwos for drama and his own fantasy scenarios
>>110550933>>110550952I'm gonna be honest, after looking in the archives this just seems like a massive nothingburger framed by Ovis to look as bad as possible. I guess weather that was on purpose or not is the real question?
>>110550903Pillow doesn’t DM anybody, ever - not even her mods. The only communication you can have with her are emails, and those are checked by her manager. Pillow has repeatedly acknowledged that she cannot reach out to Piwwos for any reason no matter how badly she may want to
>>110550978>no matter how badly she may want toShe is lusting for Ovis's wooly cock...
>>110550974I don't know why he would turn on a dime and start posting shit to tarnish pillow's reputation. More likely it was a genuine slip up. The problem now is we don't know one way or another if she really did dm him or not.
>>110551034That's what I think too. I don't mean to be rude but piwwos can be... kind of autistic at times. Even if he didn't mean it, the result is the same regardless.I really don't know how Pillow puts up with this shit. If I was in her shoes I'd blacklist every drama starting faggot, accidentally or not.
>>110550978She could just tag them on a twitter post couldn't she? I mean it isn't a DM but the piwwo would see the mention wouldn't they?
The Ovis DM shit is one of the most schizophrenic and blown out of proportion overreactions this thread has ever had. Pillow doesn’t DM anybody because she knows she can’t. She’s not stupid, she knows it’s career suicide and a massive betrayal to the rest of us. She would never do that because she cares about us too much. Ovis just slightly misworded one statement and this thread has a meltdown over it for days. It’s ridiculous
>>110551086>She could just tag them on a twitter post couldn't sheThat'd be pretty out of left field. A lot of other chuubas have started drama by doing exactly this.
>>110551086It’s possible, yes. But you just know Piwwos are not stable enough to see that and not immediately try to abuse it or call out Pillow for favoritism
>>110551034My theory is she didn't dm him but he worded it vague enough so he could pretend he did to random piwwos and backtrack if caught. Like his supposed intended meaning makes little sense in the context of the conversation, and multiple twitter piwwos were fooled by it.
>>110551094We don't even have screenshots of the DMs right? This is all over a rumor made by some porn dev? Christ...
>>110551107Interesting never really thought of that. But that does make sense.>>110551115Yeah that's true just looking at this thread it would be in Pillow's best interest to not do that lol
>>110551094I think most people do believe she didn't DM him. Most of the schizoing now is whether or not the insanely poor wording was intentional or not. And honestly, I don't have a good answer for that.
>>110551094I guess I'm not as strong of a piwwo as you cause I can't be 100% sure one way or the other. Especially after yesterday where it was shown that Ovis is totally capable of lying, even when evidence disproving his lie is just a few clicks away.
>>110534043Can we post the old rules next thread? This drama starting faggot doesn't deserve to be mentioned.
I think we should name drop and expose every single Piwwo just to balance it all out. Gotta make sure nobody is left out
>>110551274is this finally my chance?
>>110551274You'll never know who I am >>110551302Don't you fucking start this shit again
>>110551302Gus?
>>110551274>just turn the whole thread into reddit!
>>110551422Can’t let Cher, Ovis, and Notta have all the fun
>>110551481How about we just call you the "Faggot With No Name"?
maybe not mass namefagging, but IDs would improve the quality of this thread massively
>>110551481>I'm not mentioned despite blatantly namefagging multiple times at this pointI feel relived but also like I have no clout
>>110551527We can kinda do that with trips but then we have a retread of the worst arc in /piwwo/ hsitory
>>110551537we all know you, drawpiwwoyou're just not nearly annoying enough for anyone to namedrop. consider it a compliment.
>>110551558>Yeah let's all tripfag and ruin the entire point of 4chan
>>110551590What I mean is we should use trips as like condoms when you wanna fuck a hot chick. Only rule is you must change them between threads.
>>110551524https://youtu.be/na47wMFfQCoOn the first part of the journeyI was looking at all the postsThere were rrats and bait and doxes and thingsThere was cunny and walls of textThe first thing I met was a shill with a scriptAnd a thread with no modsThe heat was hot and the catalog dryBut the general was full of schizosI've been through the general on a faggot with no nameIt felt good to get out of the raidIn the general you can remember your name'Cause there ain't no schizos to give you no pain...
>>110551527IDs and flags would make this board so much better. The bright side is I've gotten pretty good at sniffing out Malaysians.
>>110551697You are verbatim describing poster IDs, anon.
>>110551572Scary... but I'm glad.
>>110552017I am aware. I've been on here long before I knew what the fuck a vtuber was. But if mods will not do it, we must enact change ourselves.
I wish Pillow would play with my wiener like it’s a fidget toy whenever she’s bored and curious
I want Pillow to pee on me
>>110552049I can't draw but I can use photoshop. I've used mushrooms in lieu of real parts.>Pillow does SPH to Piwwo. To prove her wrong, Piwwo tries to insert his dick through the fidget spinner, proving it isn't actually small enough to go through.Alternatively maybe it actually goes through and she spins it once. Wheeeee...
>>110552203what the fuck lmao
>>110552231The depths of my autistic mind should be feared.
