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This is their longest and last hurrah. What do you think?
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>>110841253
BASED BASED BASED
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>>110841253
Its absolutely mindblowing how the homobeggar defense force is still shitting and pissing their pants in every thread all day long but wont watch a single male stream.
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>>110841417
These type of posts garnered about 5-digit numbers too, yet they still won't watch them when they are at their lowest.
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>Holostars immediately start having women moments the second they face adversity
What did they mean by that?
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>>110841495
Male vtubers are the women of vtubing.
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>>110841417
You can support someone without watching them all the time lol
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>>110841253
begging to get fired huh
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>>110841253
is campfire ASMR the "biggie was fat" here
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>>110841253
This doesn't matter, because nobody watches their streams
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>>110841253
so they're more retarded than expected gotchu
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>>110841253
>Tripled their SC amount
>Increased their CCV by 3 to 5 times their usual
Looks like it's working for them. Cover will have to eat their own words soon
(No, I'm being serious. Acting dumb and bad is how many male streamers make it to the big league. Now that Stars don't need to care about their image anymore there is nothing stop them from trying)
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>>110841495
>Revenge is for women
Admit you're gay
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And post them doing this?
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>>110841660
Or point me in the direction of the worst offender(s) so I can look?
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>>110841253
I still won't watch them cause I don't like them
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>>110841633
>Cover will have to eat their own words soon
The shit the Homos are doing is not in Cover's interest anon. They are going to shut them down as soon as they've had their first crisis meeting and terminate most of the branch come next week.
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>>110841679
>Outsourced workers must be paid properly!
https://youtu.be/s3qvw9lMbEA?t=58m3s
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>>110841253
>Doing song streams while playing Apex
That's a normal amount of weird for Astel
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>>110841633
>Looks like it's working for them. Cover will have to eat their own words soon
Cover wants everything Holo related to be above board and wholesome as fuck
They don't care about a momentary spike in revenue when it involves drama and controversies
There's a reason for example Roberu has not been participating whatsoever, he still has a career and knows heads are gonna roll for this
Honestly at this point like half the Homos are getting taken out back and shot
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>>110841714
Cover doesn't care as long as they make money without going through blatantly illegal means. If this is the way, they would take it.
Not like Cover has any card anyway. Fire them? Nothing changes then and if they make it big afterwards, it will be like Selen and AnyColor minus the suicide attempt
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>>110841633
>Cover will have to eat their own words soon
For like a week and then it will be back down again once the drama excitement wears out
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>>110841765
You are right, this is outrageous! Workers must always be abused, exploited, and treated like slaves!
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>>110841633
It’s probably just a recency bias, it’s not a good strategy long-term.
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>>110841765
Oh yeah Uproar members were already pissed before, after how that manga fire guy got fired.
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>>110841633
>Tripled their SC amount
1x3=3
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>>110841813
>Cover doesn't care as long as they make money without going through blatantly illegal means
Cover cares a LOT. Their entire brand is built on caring.
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>>110841828
If Cover is paying appropriately, then that's just slander, isn't it?
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>>110841835
They literally said he deserved it lmao
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>>110841253
That's just what Astel does.
I don't even need to look at who's doing this because I already know it's Astel.
I watched the homos maybe twice in my entire life and both times were Astel doing karaoke while playing APEX.
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>>110841253
>behind-the-scenes gossip about retired members
If true, who? Girls or just their fellow fags?
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>>110841835
Uproar members were upset at Gamma, not at Cover.
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>>110841852
The company will always say that whatever they pay is appropriate. You have the mentality of a slave.
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>>110841828
Tell that to cover corp who refused to pay artist for two years until they get sued lmao
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>>110841813
Hololive/Holostars isn't Nijisanji anon.
Cover has always pushed for everything to be as wholesome as possible, everyone being friends and one big happy family is literally what their entire company is built on.
The Homos drama baiting and engaging in straight up hate marketing is a fucking PR nightmare for them.
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>>110841660
OP is a dramabaiting shitter who wants to present things out of context so he won't.

Here's a stream of Uyu roleplaying as a literal homobeggar a year after getting fired:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h84eFUeG5kM

Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3qvw9lMbEA

Miyabi just played Geoguesser and didn't address the situation much but he and Izuru still had way higher CCV than usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPVIh23f62U
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>>110841885
The appropriate pay for like 20 guys who do nothing but lose you money is in the negatives lmao
You have the mentality of a welfare leech
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>>110841957
Get that corpo dick out of your mouth first. We can't even understand what you are saying.
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if these losers that no one watches or supports have any savings that's too much. they should be in debt.
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>>110841907
Weird that artists actually stood up and defended them on twitter, then (they said that was actually a common practice in this field and Cover was one of the more pleasant company to work with).
I always know they are a masochistic bunch
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>>110841944
All corpo should burn in hell tho. Especially brave group
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Niji sister can do the absolute funny and share the stars videos here and there making it more viral to the point it hits unicorn numberfags straight on their head
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>>110842003
You wouldn't want to burn bridges with Hololive. 2years of waiting is nothing
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>>110841253
Why are men so much worse than women in every way?
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I can smell the faint scent of seething indieshitters itt
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>>110841848
So far as I could see the Uproar guys direct their jabs entirely at Cover and no one in the JP audience seems to care that they're biting bad at the underhanded assholes who threw them into a banishment room. If they were being actually rude or discriminatory it'd be something else but being snappy at a company doesn't make them non-wholesome.

From what I understand JP twitter was ANGRY at Cover for the announcement. Not even letting them do VPs or music covers? Not even suggesting they might reduce Cover's cut of superchats now that they'll do 0 support? If this happened to anyone other than the "homos" the whole of Vtubing would be livid at Cover now. And that guy from the screencapped OP picture? There's a good chance its some shitter (Phasefan?) who uses Google translate to pretend to be a JP viewer.
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>>110841907
>Look at what nijisanji is doing then replace niji with cover
Nijinigger arguments 101
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Threw the idol shit straight out of the window and went full monkey banana today
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>>110841637
It is.
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>>110841253
>coming out with their real ages
>coming out with their savings amounts
Don't care.
>begging for money with Homeless simulator
Applaud their sense of humor about it.
>doing song streams wile playing Apex
Based I guess?
>gossiping about fired members
Good. Vesper and Magni are both faggots.
>campfire asmr
Sounds comfy.
>buying Reina Ueda's asmr
Based.
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>>110841633
>Cover gets one last squeeze out of the cow before putting them out to pasture
You know how fans operate. This is a buff period that is unsustainable.
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>>110841253
>song streams while playing apex
Fuckin' newfags
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>>110841986
Do companies exist to employ people or make a profit?
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Here are a few things these guys did today
>Izuru the femboy looking one revealed his true age and told everyone how much money he has currently and how buck broke he is
>Aruruan the pizzafag said fuck it whipped out his vape and started smoking it live on stream
>Rikka said I cant make original song so i will compose one live on stream
>Astel was playing some shooter game while doing karaoke stream simultaneously (mfker was sing the muscle anime op while doing headshots)
>Shein recreated the Gangster making the CEO do dogeza meme and posted it on his channel as a video
>Roberu did a DL site ASMR video by Ueda review live on stream
>Fuma the yellow guy from uproar was straight up playing broke company simulator
>UyU first played beggar simulator and was running around the game saying im broke and i am holostar and then he played the same game as fuma and bankrupted the company

These niggers are now calling themselves the invinvible holostars and multiple hololive girls appeared in their chat looking all confused because all of their tweets are viral on X and japs are fucking laughing the fuck out of cover
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>>110841253
Turns out they are shitty people and that's why they were unsuccessful. If you go full retard a few days in of your branch getting gutted, you probably aren't the most stable person
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>>110841253
what's the behindthescenes gossip? (I only care if it's about one of the girls, btw.) anyway, now cover has reasons to terminate them. please let that happen.
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>>110841253
Thanks homos for going full mask off and showing that everything antis ever claimed against you was true. Enjoy never getting a professional chance at vtubing ever again.
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>>110842192
Half of that is just plain normal content they would have done before the announcement too.
The Astel and Roberu streams in particular are ones they've done before even.
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>>110841495
Only the weakest of weak men get into vtubing
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>>110842192
I fucking hate when streamers beg for money. No one is responsible for your finances except you and your immediate family. Begging strangers for money because of the bad decisions you've made as a streamer is retarded behaviour
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>>110841633
Kind of funny how many sisters I see thinking one day of decent numbers and supers is somehow going to reverse all this, like the branch isn't in debt to Cover for YEARS of losing them insane amounts of money.
I remember they used to get a lot of attention back during Covid (Winning son, Aruran English streams, etc.) and everyone left them then too lmao
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>>110842192
>>because all of their tweets are viral on X and japs are fucking laughing the fuck out of cover
Yeah, okay, it’s surely not just nijiniggers doing the usual rounds. Nary a soul gives a shit beyond those few overlapping fans on twitter.
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>>110842192
Didn't know Rikka had music game like that, dang.
That's kinda normal for Astel, he's weirdly super skilled in some stuff.
Sasuga winning son lol

>>110842233
Fuck yeah and I bet we can thank you for your service for your country can't we? For sure for sure.
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>>110842251
Did it not occur to you that someone playing beggar simulator might be roleplaying?? The part where he pretends he finds Cover's building one year after being fired and pisses on it as celebration was kino.
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>>110842192
>Roberu did a DL site ASMR video by Ueda review live on stream
He's a fan of her and does those reviews fairly regularly. Roberu's manager even hired her to record some stuff for him as a birthday present before.
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>>110841929
It's not like they can make it seem like they care about them less anyways. They already sent them all to a banishment room.
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>>110842313
Literally what does any of that have to do with what I said
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>>110841501
deep
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>>110841507
No you can’t. You literally can’t. Watching them is how you support them. Whining on twitter and 4chan isn’t support. Confusing the two is how they ended up here
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>>110841253
StarsEN need to all quit in solidarity. free the boys!
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>>110842192
Meh, as long as they don't talk about Holos it's fucking nothing
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>>110842192
>because all of their tweets are viral on X and japs are fucking laughing the fuck out of cover
Link?
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>>110842476
www.x.com
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I kinda hope they keep dropping more company secrets, if they keep acting rebellious and just say fuck it I might give them a pity background view while I do chores or some shit.
Like I really wanna know why Mel and Gamma got fired around the same time and almost for similar reasons since they were allowed to say goodbye but not graduate, the company has a lot of secrets and if Stars reveals them it's gonna be funny.
Like I bet Omega is locked up in a basement in the HQ as Yagoo does his best Nick Fury impressions of taunting him after he tried to take over the company.
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>>110841954
>Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"
Fucking kek, holy based. Metaverse tier bullshit.
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>>110842439
Don’t worry, they still won’t learn that lesson, even after the announcement.
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did the dramaniggers that tuned into their streams even superchat them
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>>110842525
Good one anon
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>>110842525
Most of them turned off superchats the second the announcement hit anon
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>>110841633
>Looks like it's working for them. Cover will have to eat their own words soon
Anon there will be many drama tourists watching Holostars for the next several days but do you really think they will be watching them a month from now? The guys are definitely fanning the flames while they can and Gura is no longer the only talent that had obvious anger towards the CEO. Some of the guys are being surprisingly direct with their mockery of Yagoo and they clearly do feel betrayed:

>>110834004
>Fuma doing a CEO simulator stream and the thumbnail with "a CEO that won't downsize his own projects"

>>110841954
>Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"
Okay that is funny and even the JP talents know the budget cuts were mostly because of HoloEarth. Cover hired hundreds of employees while chasing the Metaverse delusion and it's makes sense that Holostars are furious that they got punished because of a horrible management decision.
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>>110842192
Cover should have just listened to the unicorns and fired them, now the homos got nothing to lose and will just go all out Chud and might probably drop the idol stuff, they know they won't last long but they will keep going with what they got, hell I heard one of them is trying to get a sponsor deal with TENGA.
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>>110842559
i guess they want to burn the company down on the way out to draw a crowd and hope they follow them into their pl or reincarnation? bold move.
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>>110842192
>Rikka said I cant make original song so i will compose one live on stream
>Astel was playing some shooter game while doing karaoke stream simultaneously (mfker was sing the muscle anime op while doing headshots)
>Roberu did a DL site ASMR video by Ueda review live on stream
That's just normal streams for the three of them.

Izuru and Aruran and being provocative but that's still more or less all right. The only ones really going nuts are the UPROAR dudes and Shien.
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>>110842376
FUCK I was regarded and misquoted. Meant for >>110842244 sorry man my bad.
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>>110842055
Both do it, but why you like sucking corpo dick so much?
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>>110841253
Funny how none of the girls did this after their "disagreements with management," even after fully graduating. Almost like males in this space are even bigger menheras, proving that they don't belong here and vindicating cover's decision. Reminds me of another group of notoriously unstable males...
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>>110842633
The girls can't do this because they literally lack the balls for it
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>>110842623
>I was regarded
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>>110842633
Or they never where the cute soft idol boys everyone believes and just played a character, at the end of the day they are men, and all men lose to be CGDCT (Cool Guys Doing Cool Things), if I was one of them I would review Gravures and JAVs on stream
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>>110842476
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>>110842633
You sound like such a fucking pussy that there's no way you weren't some dinghy hall monitor jacking yourself off while three dudes were fucking your girl behind your back.
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>>110842582
>go full chud
this the way. filters out the troons and sisters and gains actual fans and support
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>>110842699
>Ao
Kek, come on now
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>>110841253
>Spilling the behind-the-scene gossip about retired members
That's a pretty shitty thing to do, why speak on retired members behalf and reveal their shit?
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>>110842582
The JP audience seems to be loving it and they're not being a dick to anyone outside Cover's management so they're still behaving pretty well all things considered.
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>>110842699
Shinri got 50k more likes for his viral tweet but it didn't affect his numbers at all. This shit is nothing and just temporary.
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How is my son Roberu handling the situation... please tell me he is showing some dignity unlike the rest of these clowns...
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>>110842649
It takes balls to accept your personal failures, not throw a hissy fit and blame your employer for them.
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>>110842633
You sure pissed them off lmao
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>>110842738
actually the reception untill now is western side feels sad but the JP guys are laughing the fuck out their clips they are basically saying these guys were funny since when?
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>>110842562
You're a homobeggar? I would never have guessed.
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>>110842757
he’s doing the same stuff as usual. he’s the least affected by the announcement since he doesn’t do music or idol stuff.
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>>110842706
I recently noticed some of them started getting 4 views, and the lowest ones that used to be 2 views are getting mid 500 which may not be a lot but its a hell of a lot much better than before, their new personality, the underdog story they are given and the fact that they stopped giving a fuck is a dangerous combination
I don't know if Yagoo did this on purpose or not but it seems that Holostars is gonna be harder to kill than a Cockroach
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>>110842757
Man is goon reviewing ASMR of some chick on stream. Like straight up JP comedy variety shit
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>>110842752
Because twitter niggers love drama like this. its not about supporting its about farming engagement and likes for themselves because they're dopamine addicted
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>>110842757
Roberu is literally happy about it
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>>110841986
>We
you and all your mental illnesses?
lmao
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>>110842757
He and Astel (?, the guy with the blue and yellow hair) are the only ones taking it well apparently. The second one straight up said that it's their fault, not Cover's.
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>>110842673
>I would review Gravures and JAVs on stream
Robert just did it in his membership lmao
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>>110842787
This nigga is a holoearth dev
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>>110842847
actually almost all of the stars are blaming themselves for this situation the only one who seemed to be hating on cover (sarcastically) is the shein guy he made a fucking japanese meme of some dude threatening CEO to do dogeza and how is manager is sending super chat to him as bribe
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>>110842633
That's because girls know idiots will still play them to do nothing, not even stream afterwards.
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>>110842757
You would know if you watched him.

classic starfag
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>>110842847
astel is cool. he called out the uproar guys a few years ago for not giving a shit about their jobs, and now those uproar fags suddenly care and starting shit.
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>>110841253
Cover getting rid of them is the best decision management has made in two years
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>>110842699
>Ask for links
>Get a screenshot
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>>110842757
Roberu stopped giving two shits about Holostars ages ago.
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>>110842805
Megabased
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>>110842192
by this pace it will not take a while when they start spilling girl's personal data(who has bf etc) as a "revenge" kek
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>retards on twitter refuse to watch and buy merch
>surprised homos get shut down
>cry about it, forever
>homos refuse to, you know, perform and actually gain a fanbase besides like 3 guys
>seethe about being closed down because it's a business not a charity
Tiresome.
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>>110842763
Calling him a cuck was pure instinct and I apologize for that frankly, very little rage involved. His post just reeks of nerd.
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>>110842847
He's fucking Towa so of course he will be okay
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>>110842934
i have been away for a week, can i get a QRD or which thread i missed out?
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>>110841954
>Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"
Maybe I have judged the Homos too harshly
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>>110841253
OH MY GOD, HIS A-A-A-A-A-AGE!?!?!?!?!
Is this a joke?
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I will sub to all of them and become a member if one of them drops a story about how bitchy and hard to work Flare is, and its not that they had to work with her, hell I'd even take that someone from the company told them that.
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Did they spill the beans about the red JP Homo? I admit I'm curious about why he was terminated.
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>>110841507
No you fucking retard, you literally can't, that's the entire reason the cunts are being shut down because your dumb ass won't fucking watch and throw them 5 bucks out of pity.

How are your gods being cast down and you idiots still don't understand how the business works. Watch and donate or kill yourself.
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>>110843227
This is something I really wanna know too because Mel was terminated in a similar fashion as well and if the rats or her and Fuma fucking where true.
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>>110843227
>>110834380
Looks like it was a Mel-style termination in the end, after all.
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>>110843227
the one who impregnate Miko and Ayame while been married and having pregnant wife?
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>>110842847
It makes sense. Their positions aren't actually affected
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>>110843312
Well, that was anticlimactic as fuck
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>>110841633
If you think about it, women need to be restrained by a mountain of rules while men do not.
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>>110841495
They are in a banishment room, what do you think Cover is going to do? Fire them? lol
If anything shows how spineless was Coco that she was broken with this same tactics.
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>>110841954
OP is likely a "JP only" fag and has their roots in SA or SEA. No one gets this demented over people they don't watch and lack the ability to see how they come across on these type of sites.
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>>110841633
Lol yeah those twitter tourists will definitely last, just like all the previous times when they wanted to make a statement with their support
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Hell yeah, Astel shitstomping gold Apex lobbies while singing. I will watch this vod.
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>>110842805
>some chick
It is Reina Ueda.
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>>110841253
Did they really earn so little? I don’t really trust 4chan but I’m surprised
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>>110843581
die bug
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>>110843672
It's Japan.
Everyone there has been making shit wages for like the past 10 years.
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>>110843313
but enough about homos impregnating pekhoera
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>>110843142
I'm almost certain they've never even seen any of the Fantasy members in person. Contrary to popular belief even peeps like Jurard are pretty respectful towards the members that don't feel comfortable interacting with men and I assume Flare is among those. Women do deserve their safe space.
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>>110843738
>>110843313

now kiss
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>>110843445
Right??? I was convinced he eloped with a staffer or some crazy shit like that. Some of his interactions with Mel were great, haha.

>>110843698
Wouldn't be surprised if a few talents were kinda bad with money and could have benefited from more budgeting. I always thought Izuru was one of the guys that was doing well as a stars though.
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>>110843672
hololyzer.net has stats, i only looked at one, but he wasn't making any money off of SC. thousand yen SC totals were the norm.
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>>110843809
You would expect some sound engineer or concert prepper to go to one of them and tell them how much of a bitch Flare is
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>>110843234
i will never understand how people can actually think numbers don't matter when the company has to care about them from a metrics standpoint
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>>110843677
Coco was send a banishment room. That is the true. And she decided to quit instead of putting up with Cover. That o the true.
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>>110843966
holy esl just kill yourself already
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>>110841253
Based
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>>110843956
It's funny because on /jp/ 8 years ago a bunch of posts were about numberfaggin. But I think it's because this fandom got invaded by redditors a long time ago and they desperately want a hugbox where women who talk about their pussy and being a whore are welcome and you can't point out that an insolvent company with no views or donos is dead because it makes the retarded fucks feel bad, as if that matter when they're literally killing their own hobby (assuming they were ever even here for the hobby).
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>>110841253
TEAR IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN
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>>110842706
>Gain actual support
Then get doxxed and harassed until the end of time for an act of wrong think like you see in Phase? LMAO
Not ever can be funded by glownigs either.
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>>110843078
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/2039961307672416591

we're in the midst of total homo death
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>>110843897
I dunno, it'd depend on just how close they might be but even if they've been talking for a while its hard for me to imagine a sound guy would feel comfortable enough with one of the frontside talents to open up about that. The girl in question would have to be a MASSIVE bitch to the point it'd be an "everyone knows on the down low" kind of thing.
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>>110841633
Maybe they should have cared like 6 years ago before they totally went bakrupt.
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>>110844121
>insolvent company with no views or donos
Histrionic phrasing like this just destroys any credibility your post might have had.
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>>110843445
>>110843864
The only reaction people bring up is one of the members feeling harshly about it, but someone else did say something along the lines of, "it was a mistake anyone could have made," which did seem to point to a leak. Weird part was Cover saying why Mel got terminated and not saying it for Gamma.
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>>110843897
Flare is extremely passionate about music, if there's one crew that wouldn't have issues working with her it's the concert/sound crew. More likely to have horror stories from people in charge of image-related work, like merchandising art and stuff like that.
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>>110842633
>Funny how none of the girls did this after their "disagreements with management," even after fully graduating.
Gura wasn't subtle with the Ash Again lyrics being about management and you could tell Ame was upset when Cover had her shill her daki during the affiliate graduation. Still if you can find it the best example is the last membership stream with Mumei and she clearly did blame management for her graduation. The guys in Holostars are being more direct with their mockery of Yagoo but they also have little to lose since most of their fans no longer give a shit about Cover.
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>>110841507
The children of Gaza thank you for your thoughts and prayers lmao

You don’t have to DO anything to support the children. They’re happy just knowing you, uh, care?
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so instead of firing them, they let the stars stay and continue to kill hololive from within. smart move.
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>>110841791
They already were. Roberu is the ONLY JP that can be bothered to care because he’s the only one Cover didn’t overtly fuck over, just covertly. The boys are dead and Cover killed them. If they want to shittalk like ghosts in Among Us, there is no downside.

>they could get REALLY fired this time
Lol lmao even
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>>110841954
>Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"

>>110842192
>>Aruruan the pizzafag said fuck it whipped out his vape and started smoking it live on stream
How is this controvesial?
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>>110844208
>Gura wasn't subtle with the Ash Again lyrics being about management
Meanwhile AA lyrics:
>And they all say
>"Tear it down, burn it down"
>And they'll all pay
>When I tear it down, burn it down
Yeah, sure Cover management was telling Gura to "tear it down, burn it down"
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The gimmicky fun streams they've been doing as a response to this should have happened a while ago, with a different theme of course. Some of the content could be the exact same if frames around "improving our metrics" instead of the downsizing itself.
It really goes to show how Astel was right all along. NOW they care? Uyu of all people rebelling when he did so little?
Where the fuck was these niggas' passion when it could have prevented this?
Oh well, still funny streams.
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I forgot because I read this like 3 years ago but wasn't in the lore of one of the JP homos that he chemically castrated himself so he could completely focus on his idol activities? I think it was one of the 1st gen homos
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>>110842195
They are in a banishment room, anon. Cover wanted them to quit to avoid the whole PR of axing the whole branch. Turn out they had more of a spine and want to force Cover hand.
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>>110844287
Astel also cares. If anything it looks like he gave up on other homos
>He's talking about how immediately going to buy merch is probably not gonna help, Cover will probably be looking at the long term viability over the next 4-11 months
>Probably at that point it will be specific members and not Holostars as a group who will be highlighted, unless Holostars as a group all do well.
>But there's the thing that some talent might not want to do the "Holostars" group anymore. so Holostars as a group you should count as "finished" right now probably
>Astel is done trying to compromise and work together as a whole because 12 people is a lot of people to get to work together
>but he thinks that if Cover can make some groups/units official and they get popular there's a way out there
(from his stream earlier)
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>>110844385
There are multiple reasons why
>You never know how much you miss something till you lose it
>A man is the most dangerous when he has nothing to lose
>For a lot of them, this is their actual jobs and they will do everything to keep it even if they know their end is coming
>For the others, they just don't care and will face the inevitable end with a smile on their face
And the most important
>Men pretend to be someone else most of the time when surrounded by other people to fit in
I am actually curious about what some of the girls are thinking seeing how the guys could have just been playing these characters for the company and it was never their true selves, but like I said, at the end of the day, all true men want to do is be CGDCT (Cool Guys Doing Cool Things)
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>>110842510
Gamma got fired for knocking up staff and telling management the boys were never going to be successful because Cover doesn’t actually want them to be. He’s a Korean manwha artist now who fucks every night.
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>>110844478
>at the end of the day, all true men want to do is be CGDCT (Cool Guys Doing Cool Things)
You should have told this to Aruran a few years ago, I probably wouldn't have ended up quitting him without that mind boggling redesign. He WAS a cool guy doing cool things when he was an old man cleaning guns. Fuckboy playing Street Fighter is several orders of magnitude lamer.
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>>110842510
>Like I really wanna know why Mel and Gamma got fired around the same time
Astel already said it, Gamma talk too much about a upcoming project and since the precedent of Mel was a thing they fired him.
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>>110841495
Most bad things you hear about women are also true about men.
Most bad things you hear about men are also true about women.
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>>110844317
I think vaping is like a cardinal sin in goodboi Japan land. Or maybe it is too alternative and non-idol.
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>>110841253
oh, i'm raffing. raffing at coverfags. they thought they could be the next nijisanji with male idols but it turned around and bit them on the ass.
>>110841954
>Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"
one money sink pointing out another money sink.
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>>110844605
I mean he is old IRL and said he wanted to be young because he didn't feel comfortable in his old man body, funny thing is he has the same Papa as Flare and she also doesn't feel comfortable in her body.
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>>110844385
They probably didn't have the confidence to be this bold until the announcement rolled around and there was no reason to hold back, or they straight up didn't know they had the hammer coming down on them.
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>>110844605
And what project was that? Did it ever happen? Or did we throw Gamma out as an excuse for a failed project?
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>>110844385
>Where the fuck was these niggas' passion when it could have prevented this?
They thought they could've lived on Cover's monthly salary ($1K or $2K something, the same as a part-time waitress according to Moona). Now they have to work for money and they have a chance due to all the eyes on them
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>>110841253
nothing wrong with buying a cute seiyuu's asmr
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>>110844478
Fubuki, Suisei and Sora were cheering homo up in their chat earlier. The girls don't care
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>>110843864
Even the girls are bad with budgeting there are many stories of them talking about how they spent basically everything they had on one project
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>>110844478
A lot of the girls like Kobo, Bae and Liz are probably gonna feel betrayed, specially by Izuru since his cute boy act was the reason they joined Hololive, and now he is being the biggest degenerate of the bunch ruining their ideal view of him.
But hey, best case scenario is the girls just never trust men again because of this.
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>>110844757
Pretty sure Gama got the boot around the time they were gearing up for their Uproar 3D Live.
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>>110844142
it's like axing whole branch but making it sounds like as PR safe as possible. Did quarter financial announcement released recently?
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>>110844802
What is Izuru doing that's so degen?
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>>110844207
Yeah but let's be honest, flare is a huge bitch.
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>astel getting champion while singing japari park
Absolute cinema
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>>110844840
Scratched his balls and smelled his hand after that, everyone in his chat then said they do the same thing
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>>110844802
>Bae
She joined for Roberu.
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>>110844385
>The gimmicky fun streams they've been doing as a response to this should have happened a while ago
Those feel like the asacoco shitpost era.
What happened to it? It got axed.
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>>110841253
Now this is something I would've watched if they were like that from the start. Just boys having fun fucking around while stress testing management's limits. Too late for that now.
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>>110844977
The funny thing is they probably don't even have management anymore unless Shien went back to that role for FREE for all of them
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>>110843664
>Reina Ueda
literally who
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>>110844757
It was one of his own projects and/or related with his gen, Uproar.
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>>110842805
That's old news, he's been doing that since debut pretty much.
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I feel like a ton of people in this thread aren't aware this is JP. JP is completely different. JP was the good holostars branch.
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>>110842192
>Astel was playing some shooter game while doing karaoke stream simultaneously (mfker was sing the muscle anime op while doing headshots)
I should check him out from time to time, this is the type of shit that I liked from him years ago until he stopped streaming due to some melty.

Memes aside I would've assumed they were treating holostars as a side-gig. Izuru iirc got a degree while being homo. Uyu was working under his family, that's why he streamed sporadically to begin with and lost bunch of viewers because of it etc.
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I passed by the profiles of some of the Stars out of curiosity and it seems some of them reached 4 views now, Astel and Roberu are excepted since they were basically the ones carrying the entire JP branch on their backs but I do remember before this they were in the mid to late 3 views most of the time, Altare getting 4 views as well/
I also realized some others are getting increases as well, not so much but some of the guys that where 2 views are now middle 3 views, almost matching or even beating some ID girls like Reine.
It seems like this whole thing of having their backs against the wall, not giving a shit and not playing the roles of pathetic gimps for the girls to step on anymore is gonna give them some fruits if they can make this last.
Kinda funny, they realized that at the end of the day, this is a competition and they are not the big happy family that hold hands and sing kumbaya the fans wanted to believe, 2027 is gonna be interesting no matter what outcome happens.
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>>110843864
>I always thought Izuru was one of the guys that was doing well as a stars though.
Izuru talked like a year ago how a cover song was always a sink of money. That even a non-animated one wasn't even getting its budget back. He was doing the covers just for a love to the game and his fans.
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>>110845349
>Izuru talked like a year ago how a cover song was always a sink of money. That even a non-animated one wasn't even getting its budget back. He was doing the covers just for a love to the game and his fans.
Well Bae is fucked.
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>>110844014
Coco was sent to a banishment room. That is the reason why she quit. And that is on Cover management.
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>>110841417
Who's shitting and pissing? Not the ones spamming thr catalog from news about a branch (JP) they claimed to not care about last week?
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>>110844397
It was pizza man forma de papa.
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>>110845465
Isn't he lorewise like, Kang the Conqueror or some shit? I am sure he can just get a new body with a cock as a way to revel now
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>>110845403
We are not allowed to talk about how management constantly fucked over the girls
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>>110845077
A rather famous voice actress.
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>>110841253
based homos
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>>110845511
I've never heard of her.
Then again I never even cared about voice actors
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>>110845397
Bae also talked about this, when she won the 1 million yen in the cover lottery. About how that amount was around a little above a half what she needed for a non animated MV.
And talking about originals, Izuru also talk about how a original song with 500K views earned him about the cost of half of a Nintendo Switch.
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>>110845119
Yeah all of these "rebellious" actions are run of the mill nip passive aggressive bitchfits. The real fruit to behold is when they officially apply this to ENHomos. Those niggers will chimp out and show their true colors.
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>>110841253
homoniggers were a mistake, chudcels were right, as always
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>>110845549
Yeah music never makes money directly, it's just investing on your brand to hopefully make it back through sales/membership/superchat/tickets down the line.
Not too different from making music in general, it's not like Spotify ads pay that much. It's all about getting your name out there and making money from people wanting to see you perform. The age of making a lot of money from album sales is over.
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>>110845560
Would be funny if Altare and Goldbullet are huge chuds and only pretended to care for the cause to pander to twitter trannies like most men that join those circles and pretend to be performative to get pussy do
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>>110845349
Jesus. I know this is more Youtube's fault than it is Cover's, but still...
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>>110845549
Let's not forget the fighting kiara had to do for a concert and how she almost graduated cause of it
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>>110845582
Music is always a scam product thst exists to eat money.
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>>110844317
>How is this controvesial?
Well, Raden is not allowed to talk openly about doing it.
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>>110845397
That's nothing new anon, a lot of the girls have mentioned covers never making any money back.
Also applies to original songs too unless they blow the fuck up by the by.
This kind of content is always a loooooong term investment into their careers and/or to give back to their fans.
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>>110845643
Wasn't she also forced to quit smoking?
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>>110845549
Her grandchildren will be paying off snakeeyes.
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>>110845594
I wouldn't go that far but I wouldn't be surprised if Altare's pilot was secretly into a few right-wing coded channels. Might be dumb but I can't imagine a guy who likes to ride good motorcycles and carries a firearm would be a 100% leftist.
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>>110845646
Marine had a song that blew up nationally but then she got bitched slapped by the company. Even when you do well, you get punished.
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>>110845616
Go away outfitschizo.
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>>110845657
Claimed to do it out of her own volition because she wanted to give a good image after she saw all the museum accounts following the Raden character and being so supportive of her.

This is just psychoanalysis but she might also feel it belongs to the doomer episode of her life which is now behind her.
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>>110845657
Imagine the pressure Cover forces on her if even nicotine couldn't make her keep smoking, if she really stopped that is, crazy work
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>>110845657
She decided to stop smoking and switch to vaping. She just stopped talking openly about it.
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>>110845643
Thats smoking, not vaping.
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>>110841253
You all won't be laughing when the leak private info.
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>>110844207
>merchandising art and stuff like that
Imagine all the arguments about skin color that the public will never get to hear about...
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>>110842192
Sounds pretty based to me, unironically.
What, you wanted them to meekly apologize and accept it? Are you a faggot?
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>>110845616
Yeah and that concert was mid as fuck
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>>110845594
Or sexpests. I literally said this about Vesper in particular when every sister, anon, and talent doted on him for being a wholesome chungus at debut. Literally bagged a whole oshi or two while undercutting his own branch, many such cases IRL of these predatory two-faced fags.
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>>110844385
>Uyu of all people rebelling when he did so little?
Uyu was always been this level of a troll. One of his gimmicks was catfishing streamers using a female voice on GTA and Rust streams. Then Cover asked him to stop doing it.
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>>110844317
Cover generally doesn't want them to talk about smoking/vaping, let alone do it on stream.

>>110845657
>>110845643
Raden was kind of a special case.
Excessive smoking/drinking was very much so part of the character archetype she played at the start.
The whole degenerate traditional arts entertainer living for momentary pleasures vibes.

Someone more cynical might say they had her play it up to be more excessive than it really was at the start so she could have her very own "idol journey" when she "quits" and becomes a better person.
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>>110844317
>>110845643
Vaping isn't controversial. Smoking is.
He was joking for a bit as if he was smoking weed, but he made it clear to state that he was vaping so no one seriously bought into the joke
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>>110845758
You're saying this on a board where everyone is a sex pest.
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>>110842562
they were the original terrible decision though
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>>110845729
They're meek nips beholden to contracts, they won't.
>>110845755
>based
None of this is tough shit.
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>>110844140
>just get fired for being unsuccessful!
>what? no, dont change your approach to content, I'll fucking doxx you!
You are crazed.
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>>110844317
The Aruran thing is more him dropping part of his character or letting more of himself out.
He's never talked about smoking/vaping before, but he stopped caring and decided to just go for it on stream.
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>>110845852
Exactly. I call 'em as I see 'em and I was right. People who didn't see this back then were stupid.
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>>110845799
Where the fuck does Yagoo even find like 95% of the JP talent for both Hololive and Stars, a lot of these people seem to have some sort of mental issue or traumatic past that if put in their lore people would think its fake for out outlandish a lot of the shit they been through is, Noel and Rio being a the top with how fucked up their lives where before Cover found them.
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>>110844802
Well, then it will be their fault because Izuru was always had this mean streak on him.
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>>110845798
Yeah but he didn't stream. It would be more in character for him to show up to do a stream after his character was terminated and him not being aware of it and just going live for an RP server despite being marked as alum on the website.
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>>110845912
Is he gonna regrow his dick now since he said he cut it off to focus on his idol activities?
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>>110845758
LOOK! LOOK EVERYONE! I'M PROJECTING BECAUSE NO WOMAN WANTS TO TOUCH MY DICK! EVERY MAN IS A SEXPEST BECAUSE IM ONE IN BOTH MY HEADS!! AAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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>>110841253
a shamefur, dispray, after all these years of freeloading they choose to go out with no grace at all
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>>110845928
I always got the impression he was/is a massive saviorfan. He's also a healthy family man who likes to go on walks, just a genuinely nice person even if he doesn't seem very good at dealing with ill-intentioned people.
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>>110841253
>fail at your job(getting views and revenue for company)
>consequences happen
>play the rebellious victim
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>>110845758
I don't think he was a sex pest but I do think he was entitled, wasn't he trying to get the rights to play a bunch of Religion games just to mock them and the management told him no so he got angry at all the red tape and left?
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>>110845910
>Strawman
>Projection
No one's forgotten your track record phasecuck
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>>110845119
but would it not apply to EN side eventually?
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>>110845928
That's how it is. Interesting people thrive in the entertainment business and interesting people have/had interesting lives that made them interesting in the first place. Sometimes good, sometimes bad, but always outside of the norm.
Normal is boring and boring never makes it in this industry.
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>>110845865
So true mr internet tough guy, they should've shot up the cover building.
Based means "uncaring what others think" btw.
You're welcome for reminding you about the word meek lol
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>>110845965
What are you, a stupid woman? We're all trying to bag and clearly that faggot did it by way of deception. Funnily enough, he managed to get with the one who was just as two-faced as him.
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>>110846021
Yeah, he seems to be. I remember Marine (?) saying she doesn't think there's a single talent who hasn't seen YAGOO crying behind the scenes, and he always delivers bad news personally and in tears, kek.
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I’m so glad the male vtuber experiment has failed. They’re tried so hard to make fun of us for not wanting holostars collabing with hololive
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>>110846064
Yeah even the KyoAni arsonist was tougher than these passive-aggressive, woman-like bitchfits on stream. Which will go nowhere but on chan and dramatubers looking for bottom of the barrel content.
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>>110844321
>Cover management was telling Gura to "tear it down, burn it down"
Anon that was about what she was tempted to do with Hololive and her leaving with a graduation was actually the nice option. Gura could have easily gone scorched earth on the way out the door and she was tempted by that idea. The guys were not the only talents that had major complaints with how they were treated by management.
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>>110845799
>The whole degenerate traditional arts entertainer living for momentary pleasures vibes.
Raden just liked to smoke, anon. That is why she was gassed out in the first Regloss' live. When playing geo guesser to find museums she remembered the places were she used to smoke or had a good smoke. There is nothing sinister about it, but her singing instructor advices her against smoking and she decided to quit.
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>>110846032
Where'd you hear this? I never really got the impression that Vesper was a raging athiest. It would make sense considering Faunas an atheist too though.
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>>110846180
I just think it's astounding how after all these years and all the proof, people still deny the issues with the organization.
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>>110845928
>>110846061
I think it's less that Cover looks for people with fucked up crazy backgrounds and more so that the people with them just end up being the most interesting. Like you don't hire a singer because her parents died when she was young and she grew up in an orphanage, you hire that singer because she can pour that lifetime of emotion into her voice.
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>>110844888
that's how you know it's all drama tourists kek
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>>110846206
Company no like when you say bad things about shit games
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>>110846206
I don't think he was an atheist, I just think he wanted to do an AVGN style playthrough of these games while making fun of them and cover didn't let him
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>>110846192
I'm not saying they invented her smoking or anything crazy like that lmao
It's just that very traditional Japanese entertainer archetype that fit her fairly well so they gave it to her when she became a Holo and maybe exaggerated a bit of the finer details.
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>>110845758
You gotta respect the hustle. Like dude is for sure a shitbag but it’s a level of self centered ness you kinda gotta respect, ya know?

Also idk what Lily sees in him. She could’ve done so much better. He better be earning mid 6 figures on top of his Vtubing job and be like 6ft tall cause that woman sold herself short
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>>110846239
I will always respect altare for shitting on the callista protocol
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>>110845678
did you ever heard him speak without a dick in his throat?
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>>110846235
>>110846239
Ah I see, I misunderstood what he wanted to make fun of.
Yeah I could imagine that, there are definitely some shitty edutainment religious games out there.
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>>110846077
This is going to shock you but not everyone sees other people solely as sources of sexual gratification. Hand to heart, I used to be way more of a coomer so I get it but I legit hope you can get to a more fulfilling way to live anon.

>>110846081
>and in tears
Never knew why but this was one thing that always pissed me off a little about him. Being a emotional man is ok but as a leader I wish he'd be more of a emotional pillar for his talents. Or well, I guess you can be a source of support while also being mopey yourself. Works for Altare. But still...
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>>110846081
This is why even though Yagoo was their man for all these years and probably defended them from the shareholders up until this point when they should have been cut even before going public, the JP homos are still clapping on him on stream. You see how quick your niggas forget? Never show niggas any weakness.
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>>110846318
Ok, we hear you but he litterally peaced out with one of the holo girls ruined the branch and dipped. Scummiest of scum bags. Lily could’ve absolutely done better. Bet he’s got a tiny Korean penis too
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>>110846216
I'm sure Noel when singing thinks about her middle and high school life of being bullied because she developed her big tits early and everyone mocked and groped her and called her a cow then only to come back home and see her mother crying because her father left them due to him feeling sexually attracted to her and not wanting to stay and do something he would later regret to his daughter
Or Rio thinks about how his mom used to abuse him and force him to dress up like a girl because she always wanted a girl but never got one only for the abuse to get worse during his teenage years as puberty made him took more manly and his mother couldn't control the life of her son anymore
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>>110841253
We Won
Branch termination after the next financial report
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>>110846300
Dunno if he has an active roomate but soft voice aside we ultimately don't know how these people are truly like off stream. As a corpo chuuba they are all behind 3 layers of roleplay. Fuck, I mean who could have ever guessed that nature girl and crazy vampire ojisan would hook up? But apparently it did happen.
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>>110846357
Literally not a single one of them said anything negative about YAGOO.
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>>110846318
Well you have to consider that Hololive Productions was kind of an accident. He never set out to be this kind of leader. He was supposed to lead a company making table tennis VR games. Then Sora happened.
Also the fact that he's even making himself available to be crying in front of people in a company this size already makes him closer to an emotional pillars for his talents than the more likely scenario of talents never getting to see the CEO ever. The choice isn't between stoic and present or emotional and present, the alternative is them never meeting him in person.
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>>110846278
Who the fuck is Lily?

>>110846206
Sister Marine mogging everyone with her love of God and her giant ass.
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>>110846180
>Gura could have easily gone scorched earth on the way out the door
Impossible, that would need for her to stream.
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>>110846365
Im sure Noel has a bright future as a cam girl or only fans girl
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>>110846365
>her father left them due to him feeling sexually attracted to her and not wanting to stay and risk abusing his daughter
H U H
Excuse me what in the holy fuck!?!?!?!?!??
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>>110846365
Not sure what any of that has to do with anything I said?
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>>110846365
…fuck man I hope she gets a good therapist
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>>110846278
Nah he settled for a two-faced bitch. Could have taken Tempus further and brought up your bros to actual stardom.
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>>110846414
He's shitposting. Her dad had an affair and left them when she was still very young, long before she got into puberty.
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>>110846410
already does
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>>110846423
NTA but those are some fucked up crazy backgrounds are they not?
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>>110846442
Lol ok. Fauna was peak woman. Your loss. Even I can admit he bagged the baddest of bi baddies. Props to him. It’s ok to admit you’re jealous. I sure am
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>>110846460
It happens more often than you think despite how fucked up it is.
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>>110846318
>Hand to heart, I used to be way more of a coomer
get a load of this nigger
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>>110846460
Yeah, but Cover didn't go and hire Noel because she had a fucked up past.
They hired her because of the person she became.
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>>110841253
Why not simply leak which holos have boyfriends?
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>>110846476
Peak woman? Ehhhh I don't know about that. Either way if it's true then good for them.
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>>110846450
Oh, well that also sucks but that’s a lot less fucked up. I gotta stop trusting 4chan
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>>110846499
They’d get sued. This way they’re just fucking up their jobs. If they leaked proprietary business info like that they’d be in debt for life. Knowing Japan maybe jail time
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>insult a corporation
>ricecels freak out like you murdered their parents
Why is that
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>>110846382
Of course not by name, they're meek nips and would never. But whoare they clowning in game as the ceo? who made holoearth?
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>>110846504
Not in terms of physical attractiveness (maybe I’m crazy but I think I’m even more attractive than she is) but her personality was and is fantastic. She’s a sweetheart and a catch. Hope he makes her happy but I really do think she could’ve done better. Oh well
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>>110846476
>peak woman
In terms of being a two-face bitch and settling for a faggot, yeah she's definitely peak woman.
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>>110846450
Ah man, thanks for that. I'm quite relieved now.

The worst part is some of the talents went through enough fucked up shit it was almost plausible...

my poor Mashiro...
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>>110846180
>Gura could have easily gone scorched earth on the way out the door
AAAAAAHHHH COVER KEPT EMAILING ME TELLING ME TO STREAM.
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>>110846433
He's bulshitting. She got bullied for having huge tits and she's a brocon becuase her brother was the only man who was ever nice to her. Her paretn divorced.

I don't think a tragic background is that common though. EN has a few like Kiara the failed idol, Kronii and her eternal oneitis (just find a lesbian ffs), and a few JP girls have issues like Miko with heart issues, Polka being overweigth so the vtuber model helped people loompast that to judge her based on her personality, Kanata with hearing issues, etc. But most of them are prety normal people. But expect more disabled people to show up since you can't do manual work but you can be bedbound and talk on stream. You now remember the Mumei in wheelchair rrat.
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>>110845594
Would explain why Kiara kinda has a cold attitude towards a lot of them, her RL self is a huge left wing political girl, she kinda calmed down after joining Hololive but she could still be talking that shit IRL to everyone and the guys being chuds who she knows are being performative 2 faced fags makes her see them as lesser beings
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>>110841253
>scorched earth
>just tame management approved jabs
ok lol
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>>110846483
>get a load of this guy
I don't think you'd want to after I admitted to being a coomer...
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>>110846575
Bi4bi is blessed. What more can I say. I really don’t see why you think she’s 2faced though. If anything she’s one of if not the most honest vtuber out there. I really respect her for that
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>>110841253
Wow they’re so ‘unhinged’ right now xD!!!! I love how WACKY they are!!!!!!! Our boys are so craaaaaazy xDDDDDddddd!!! This is so epic it reminds me of the Vesper x Kronii Collabs so RANDOOOOOM LOOOOOOOOLE X DDDDDDD
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>>110846553
>>110846382
Yagoo is probably the main reason they didn't just close the HoloStars branch entirely over night with zero recourse.
He's close friends with a whole bunch of them - they go drinking after hours, have yearly HoloStars camping trips together, etc.
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>>110846606
Only in Japan would the men be so beta they’d be intimidated by and actively antagonize a woman with huge tits. And they wonder why all the Japanese women wanna marry foreigners…
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>>110846625
nigger*
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>>110846564
Just so you know it always look horrible for a guy to say this even if he's 100% right. Feels very disrespectful to the girl.
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>>110846564
I think it's there to be a reminder that the world is full of strange things that don't necessarily make sense. Beyond the muck in this thread, we have to try to make sense of how this would effect everyone potentially. As for me, I really don't like the thought of my support amounting to nothing. I felt that way when gura left and now I'm feeling it more now.
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>>110846606
And then there's Watame and her supremely fucked up dad
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>>110845405
To find the most genuine Homobeggar seethe you have to get off of this board, people are still winging about things on x and their own reddit. Not as much on reddit currently as the fake fans that they are, are busy going “bro they’re UNHINGED right now” to eachother as they still don’t watch streams.
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>>110846675
Are you into blacks this badly? Go do your raceplay kink somewhere else!
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>>110846628
even just being bi is being two-faced
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>>110846612
Kiara is funny to me.
>Be raging leftist
>Have a breakdown on stream about how your mom had 3 kids at 30
It's funny becuase it was a long time ago, but I remember her mom being on stream and seeming kinda chuddish. I cna't remember what, but her mom didn' really give a shit about offending people o I imagine she's the opposite of a leftist. That said I don't expect any chuds outside of the Japanese girls, I expect more of hololive to become chud adjacent with the increase in Indian migration to Japan.
In my head I will bond with my oshi in broken Japanglish over a mutual dislike of people shitting in the street and leaving litter everyhwere.
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>>110846663
The Noel bullying was in like elementary school anon.
Kids are cruel as fuck and will actively make your life hell over absolutely nothing the second they smell weakness.
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>>110841507
So true Xister. I’ve been supporting my favorite boys the last couple of years by wishing them TONS of thoughts and prayers.

You fucking retard.
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>>110842040
>>110842150
BEGGARSEETHE
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>>110846723
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>>110846547
After westernization, the traditional japanese structures of caste, village, clan and religion were replaced by new ideas brought from the west. All peasants who had previously been nameless nobodies were forced to take names. Castes like the Samurai who were high lost their right to monopoly on violence. Low castes, like butchers and gravediggers (who are low caste because of Shinto fears of death and the undead), were freed from their hereditary obligations (though discrimination persists to the present day in some conservative areas mostly composed of 90 year olds in rural villages. Daimyo were replaced by a Peerage in the british style, with japanese lords styling themselves as the Duke of Wing wang wong or the Baron of Karate Chop, and came to dominate the newly formed national diet with the Emperor and his prime minister on top.

Following this many men came to form a new plutocracy of oligarchs, forming new industrial corporations after the 1860s that became the Zaibatsu. nearly a century later during WWII, the Zaibatsu monopolies that controlled the economy were tightly aligned with Prime Minister Tojo, who was himself tightly connected with the army and obsessed with conquering China (the previous attempts to conquer eastern russia had failed in the 1920s when the japanese colonies in Siberia were destroyed by the Soviets).

Even after the United States destroyed militarism and natonal pride and the State Shinto Religion with the fanatical suicide bombings in the name of the Divine Emperor and Takamagahara, the Zaibatsu persisted- even resurged- because the USA needed capitalism to decisively prevail in japan leading to the OSI/CIA encouraging a young japanese teenager to assassinate the leader of the communist party before they could gain a foothold.

This made japan the American frontline in Asia against Red China and the Soviets trying to take over Korea, TheROC and South Vietnam. Without Japan, the US would have lost the cold war.

The economy of japan boomed so hard and outproduced american steel factories to the point where Japan surpassed the USSR to become the number 2 economy by the 1980s, and briefly became the Number 1 economy during the bubble, leading to President Reagan putting ariffs on their industry and nascent tech sector which had developed a kind of mass media pre-internet learning system that could have been deployed worldwide in universities and classrooms.

Japan was living in the year 2000, in the year 1980.

Even today, corporations are totally dominant as a result of the hypercapitalism adopted by japan both before the war, and encouraged by the United States after the war to crush communism.
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>>110841637
>Throwing tantrums = revenge
Admit you're a stunted manchild
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>>110846724
People who dream of bi girls dream of sex, not relationships. I knew a guy who dated a bisexual woman. She left him for a butch lesbian. I didn't get it at all. Like if you wanted a woman, why not someone with huge tits, long hair, etc? If you like the masculine look, why not just fuck men like you were already?

>>110846663
Japanese hate anything non-conformist. Phase Connect had Tenma raised as a half Romanian half Japanese. She got shit on for being brunette. I knida get it though. I see lots of women giving other women bad advice, like the thin girl telling the fat girl she's sexy and doesn't need to lose weight. It's about eliminating competition, and th couldn't compete with huge tits.
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>>110846743
Take your meds and stop sharing your thoughts in public.
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>>110844199
Hololive is successful because it focused on growing views and money. Companies with no views and money go out of business. Have you heard of akioair? Vreverie? Production kawaii? All these companies came and went because not enough money or views. Holostars are part of Cover which is the largest vtubing company, but on their own they would be wholly reliant on Roberu and Astel to exist and the rest of the guys can't stand on their own and are a drain. The company would obviously collapse, if they had to stand on their own.
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>>110841986
Post your malnourished arms, commie
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>>110846843
>live differently to your ancestors
>complain you life doesn' end up like theirs
Mom didn't walk around cheering on BLM, shockingly mom went on to have kids. Meanwile women choose activism and wonder why they aren't married. Unless Kiara wants to get blacked, no man is going to sign on to the "I hate myself" club.
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7% of cover employees are involved with holoearth, them hiring a few dozen people for game dev didn't cause holostars to fail any harder than they would have because the homos weren't bringing in enough money to offset what they cost the company for years anyway.
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>>110846798
Insane westoid babble.
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>>110846798
Read it with the voices of the MGS cast like it was one of their cutscenes. Well done, anon.
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>>110846971
How long will it take for them to drop that shitty project? I can already tell that the shitty phone game there are releasing will be thousand times more successful than HoloEarth
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>>110843809
>even peeps like Jurard are pretty respectful
Delusions like this are why no one likes homobeggars
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>>110846685
I know. She’ll never see it (I hope)
Tbh I used to think “personality” was cope, but I fell harder for her than any of the women I’ve been with. She inspired me to be less of a fuckboy. I always thought physical attraction and sex were the most important thing in a relationship to me but she’s proved me wrong time and again. I’m full on personality pilled now (it doesn’t hurt that she has the voice of a goddess)
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>>110846971
Is there are solid source of how much staff is allocated to Holoearth? I've heard wildly different numbers

>>110846848
How much would you say a boy on life-support like Miyabi or Shien would cost them per month?
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>>110846724
…wow. I guess I shouldn’t be suprised to see biphobia on 4chan but wow. Expectations subverted once again
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>>110846748
Kids suck. Noel had the last laugh. She’s a gorgeous multi millionare with millions of fans who would litterally die for her. Go girl go!
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>>110847070
Jurard is very respectful. Every people that have interacted with him behind stream has confirmed it.
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>>110846830
I used to be semi fluent in Japanese (took it in school for close to a decade) when I actually went there and the natives realized I could speak Japanese you could see them flip from “nice new tourist” to “he’s fake Japanese”

No one said anything rude to my face and this was a while back but it’s like they want you but only if you keep a certain distance. It’s weird. Fuck conformity
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>>110847109
Fuck off back to twitter and kill yourself.
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>>110841253
StarsEN should start talking about the behind-the-scenes discussions they have with the HoloEN girls, that'd get them more views
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>>110846970
Stop oversharing. If you can't do it consider chug more pills.
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>>110847070
Oh I'm really sorry my chud friend... I should suck your cock as apology for speaking unfactually. Pray tell, when did Jurard violate the boundaries of a Holo girl? (him wishing Gura happy birthday or that akward convo with Ironmouse don't count btw). I'll do a naked dogeza if you got something solid.
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>>110847177
Ok, I’m glad you can believe that. I’m free to respectfully tell him to go fuck himself
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This shit is going to backfire on HomoEN, and I'm going to have a good laugh
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>>110847228
Imagine keep seething for years to a random Filipino. Skill issue.
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>>110846685
>>110847071
sorry Lily. Please put up the frame.
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>>110847279
I don’t watch him or any of the women he’s interacted with. I just think he’s an asshole and he seeks conflict. Don’t want him in my hobby simple as that
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>>110847109
Niggers get ragged on here too, it's heartbreaking.
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>>110847071
I feel similar about Doki and Pippa so I think I get it.
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>>110847109
go back, tranny faggot
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>>110847463
Doki is chill, she’s cool. I hope she ends up happy. Pippa!? Anon please, you can do better. Not even talking doxx but what do you see in that woman?! She’s not even a kind person! Please have higher standards
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>>110841495
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! you have to sit there take your punishment in silence like a good little boy or else you're......errrr having a women moment™ !!!11!!!
You're mentally cucked ngl
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So Cover has become the laughingstock in Japan and the west, their own talents are shitting on them and calling them a black corpo, they lost their biggest idol and they're wasting money on some shitty metaverse game when even Zuckerberg called it quits after losing billions.

You know what? Life ain't that bad.
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>>110846564
>>110846685
ALSO TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR IN THE SMALL CHANCE THAT THE PERSON IN QUESTION MIGHT SEE THIS I WAS NEVER CLAIMING SHE IS NOT VERY PRETTY HERSELF. I just work out a lot and take good care of myself and am proud of my body
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>>110847001
Okay
BIG COMPANY INTEGRAL TO JAPANESE CULTURE
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>>110847402
Imagine keep seething for years to a random Filipino.
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>>110847179
>“he’s fake Japanese”
Are you asian? That's funny
>try to be their friend
>makes them hate your guts
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>>110847603
White as white can be. Just the vibe I felt
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>>110847536
I mean, Coco couldn't take it and decided to quit. There is no correct way to react to the banishment room.
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>>110847619
Tbf I thought that was self-sacrifice on her part so the Chinese bots would leave Hololive alone and she was angry at how staff were unable or unwilling (suspect it was more of the latter) to protect her. Some of the "mistakes" management made were just horrible.
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>>110847616
Are you average height? I wonder if they'd fuck with a 6 foot 2 ken sama giant in their land of the "average male is 5 foot 5".
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>>110841253
Unicorns are having a field day now, huh? I think they're watching more homo streams than the girls' streams at this point. Not that the bar for that was high or anything.
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>>110842633
>Funny how none of the girls did this after their "disagreements with management," even after fully graduating.
Lmao that's not true all
Fauna very intentionally stirred the pot with her graduation announcement enough that it required 3/4ths of EN and some JP had to come in do PSAs about how they're happy with the statement of management
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>>110847603
What that anon described is a pretty common reaction. In the Rust servers you could watched it with Bae and Axel. Bae started talking in japanese since the start and avoided mentioning she was actually bilingual, she could make new friends and hang out without problem. Axel started talking in English with RPR and other streamers were goofing around him without problem. When he switched to japanese to talk to them, the temperature of the room dropped and they started to being more cautious around him.
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>>110847705
>I wonder if they'd fuck with a 6 foot 2 ken sama giant
Yes, they do.
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>>110847619
>I mean, Coco couldn't take it and decided to quit.
Coco didn't get banishment room'd tho, she was regularly interacting with Holos pretty much the moment the chink bots got banned
She left because she thought she was bigger than the program
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>>110847705
How did he manage to he look younger on the 2020 picture?????????
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>>110847809
>anon learns the wonders of what good diet and exercise can do for the human body
It must be magic anon
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>>110847809
He's noticeably more obese in 2009. Being a fat fuck is more associated with middle age and being skinnier makes you look younger unless you are ann coulter and have skeleton face.
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>>110847809
It's almost like it's two different people.
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>>110847809
The power of God and anime
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>>110847809
it's a mystery! we will never know...
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>>110847536
What is cucked is that I know you don't actually watch the stars, you just come here or go on twitter to complain about people shitting on the stars but would never donate your kidneys to them to save hteir channels.
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>>110847593
I don’t like bullies. The dude actively antagonizes people. He’s genuinely an asshole. There are plenty of chill holsters Magni is chill. I’d think vesper is fine if I wasn’t eternally jealous. Jurrard is just genuinely a mean spirited person. Fuck that
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>>110847733
>actual japanese person not accepted because bilingual
>chinese girl who speaks japanese doesn't use any english or chinese or cantonese so the japanese think she's one of them
Fucking lel what the fuck is their problem NOT EVEN LOYAL TO THEIR OWN BLOOD
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>>110847890
>What is cucked is that I know you don't actually watch the stars
This canned insult doesn't mean shit, we're on /vt/
Nobody here watches vtuber kek
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>>110847023
They aren't going to drop it, it costs them almost nothing compared to the rest of their expenditures and they can sell digital oshi merch, FOMO merch, and hold concerts in it(what they SHOULD be doing).
I agree that the phone game will make more money though.
>>110847091
>Is there are solid source of how much staff is allocated to Holoearth? I've heard wildly different numbers
The 7% I stated was from Cover's last report, specifically their "metaverse" section(what they refer to Holoearth as). The same report said they have 743 employees, so that means at most 52 employees are working on it, though it's likely less.
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>>110845928
It's self selecting they don't have to search
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>>110847952
DONATE YOUR FUCKING KIDNEY RIGHT NOW TO SAVE THE STARS OR YOU'RE A FAKE FAN
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>>110847890
>You'd never donate your kidneys to save their channels
I almost sold one of my kidneys to help out a girl I was absolutely in love with at the time. Its hard to put into words how glad I am I never went through with it.
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>>110847911
unfortunate since vesp and magni both graduated.
>jurad has been there for years
Holy fuck dudes, time has accelerated again because of that gay italian from jojo. 2023 was so recent and so long ago.
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>>110848041
You're not supposed to actually fall for the simp bait, anon!
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>>110848041
…anon you might be retarded
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>>110845928
sakana has admitted he read the 'yagoo looks for mentally ill women for his company' memes and used that as the basis for phase connect's selection process. It's a proven method.
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>>110847809
It's two different people.
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>>110848021
>DONATE
Why would you donate anything to them right now when Cover is going take a percentage that they've already publicly clarified WON'T be reinvested in the branch?
Unless one of those niggas have veno, I'm good
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>>110845397
>Well Bae is fucked.
yeah, by me
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>>110847222
https://files.catbox.moe/ssu5n2.mp4

Some choice quotes from his 30 minute spergout where he also admitted that Cover wisely segregates the sexpests from the girls

> Online drama is where I'm at the difference about this thing is.. I have something to gain here and you don't
> I'll be as close to them as I'll ever be compared to you *laughs*

> Your opinion does not matter to me. What matters is, I work here, and you don't *laugh*
> And I get to do whatever I want
> I have the privilege of interacting with them, and you're just there, a bystander, looking at all of this, crying, seething and coping

> This is honestly a very anime adventure thing. Y'know, throughout any adversity fighting through it, I'm there.
> You're feeding me my fantasy. this is next level.
> I can't help but feel like I'm the main character of this world.
> These villains are just trying so hard, but they will never, ever reach me.
> They will never catch my attention no matter how many times they try

The dude is a narcissistic sperg who got walloped by management for fucking around and drawing in too much bad press. Just because you're too retarded to remember what happened in the past doesn't change the fact that he's a piece of shit that would start shit with the girls if Cover didn't segregate the da boiz completely
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>>110841954
>Fuma plays a gamedev simulator (?) where he runs his company into the ground with a project he titles "Holoearth"
lmoa
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>>110848471
>> I'll be as close to them as I'll ever be compared to you *laughs*
>> Your opinion does not matter to me. What matters is, I work here, and you don't *laugh*
>> And I get to do whatever I want
>> I have the privilege of interacting with them, and you're just there, a bystander, looking at all of this, crying, seething and coping

I'm a dude and reading this gave me the ick. LMAO dude thinks he's a harem protag.
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So, homostars are becoming hobostars, amirite?
Honestly, what's all this stuff is about? I saw announcement, but cover is not explicitly shutting it down, is it?
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>>110848471
Disgusting human being. Like legit the smallest of small dick energy
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>>110848471
He did sound like quite the douchebag there so I can understand that side but I also get why he'd react so badly given the relentless anti harassment. You have to remember that from the perspective of stars this anti shit happens to them just for the crime of being guys and it stings worse knowing that its being said by people like Myron or straight up rape-adjacent chuds. I'm gonna be honest, part of Hololive's audience just fucking suck and I understand if some of the talents wanted to tell them to fuck off.

That said, him acting like an anime protag did indeed just add fuel to the fire and its a good thing his manesan taught him a lesson so I guess I do owe you half of a clothed dogeza. He's technically not wrong in that he's closer to the girl than most fans and he can do what he wants (kinda), interpreting that in a sexual light is a bit of a reach(around) though.
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>>110848471
It's funny because his ignorance made his statement worse than he was probably intending it to be. He's likely just a clipwatcher, so he's not aware of the fact that some of these girls hold offline IRL events where they actually directly meet their fans. In his head, the abstraction of "we technically work for the same company and I could theoretically send a message to their company Discord" is closer than any fan will ever be, but saying you're closer than someone who meets them IRL, talks to them, takes photos together and shakes their hand carries much stronger implications and implies a deeper relationship.
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>>110848694
Nah, jutard absolutely deserves all the shit he gets.
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>>110848584
No. Basically, to put it in simple and blunt terms. Holostars is no longer an idol group, they're streamers, unless they produce the idol activities themselves. Whether it's worth it to be a streamer giving a cut of your pay to a company instead of just going indie I guess we'll find out in the next few months.
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>>110848694
He can kill himself thanks
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>>110848471
Even the sisters hate this faggot don't they? kek
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>>110848548
>dude thinks he's a harem protag
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>>110848694
Fuck this take. There are a bunch of other boys in the branch that are handle everything thrown at them completely reasonably. Holostars didn't suffer because of antis it suffered because of fake fans
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>>110848711
He knew what he was doing. He’s just an asshole>>110848768
Ugh. What is it with sea and having to be sex pests. The hate for holostars was 100% vindicated between vesper and jurrard alone. Good riddance
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>>110848795
Nah it was both but it was brought on by themselves. Magni was chill. Roberu was chill. People like vesper and jurrard ruined the branch for everyone else. They proved people right that they were sex pests. The hate was justified
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>>110848749
I fully understand why Jurard pisses people off, but why *this* level of hatred? Just because he said some stupid stuff more than half a year ago? Isn't life too short to be wasting it in pointless online shitflinging?


>>110848795
Maybe we can have a compromise and say they suffer from both. I don't see it a lot cuz I don't go on twitter but maybe all the virtue signalers that came around with HQ really did sour the impression of Stars for many people
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>>110848694
I get where you're coming from, but that's the reality for every streamer above a certain CCV. Despite that none of the other talents acted that way, Vesper and Jurard were the only ones who regularly got one-guy'd by trolls in chat and had frequent spergouts

>>110848754
They absolutely should. I'm not a sister but I did like StarsJP and absolutely hate the amount of damage Omega, Vesper, Jurard, and their dipshit fanbases did to the Stars IP
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>>110848848
NTA but
>they were sex pests
What does this even mean? lmao
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>>110848694
>relentless anti harassment
literally nobody gives a shit about them as long as they don't insert themselves with the girls. That's part of the reason we came to this point, nobody watches or cares about the fucks. Even the girls sometimes forget they exist, I remember Ame couldn't even name some of the newer homos at the time and she was a homo lover. They don't even get a speck of the harassment the girls get on a daily basis, most girls have dedicates schizos, some even real life stalkers that made them move houses.
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>>110848898
Nah, my anger fuels me. He’s right, he’s closer to my oshi than I ever will be and I’ll hate him for it. My hatred drives me in life in general, there’s a reason I spend my time on 4chan. Vesper I hate but I begrudgingly respect. Dude did what we all didn’t have the balls to. Jurrard is just a jerk with a victim complex
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>>110848898
>Just because he said some stupid stuff
It's because he says that shit for the sole purpose of stirring shit that he deserves all the hate he gets. That asshole has no redeeming qualities.
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>>110847724
Weird projection
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>>110848831
>>110848768
the guy that was magni used to do same type of content and got in too. It really seemed like the homos didn't have close to the same level of scrutiny girl auditions have.
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>>110848917
Look at jurrards actions. Vesper is self explanatory. He legit found a wife, took her and dipped. Jurrard is conflict seeking and lives off of drama. He’s toxic. He likely doesn’t get any pussy and that’s why he’s so fed up. Genuine SDE from him and he’s fillipipino so that checks out. Just hate the dude
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I think more than either antis or "fake fans" the real issue was their own actions turning off legitimate fans from them. Any antiing that was happening early on was completely drowned by the debut hype, people enjoying the male camaraderie and the strong gen unity that wasn't really a thing for holoEN (at the time. I'd argue Advent and Justice have been better and obviously much more consistent at it than Tempus ever was)
But as they kept doing dumb shit and eroding the good will earned by the debut period and all the memes and excitement, real fans started to leave because it was feeling less and less fun to be a fan of them. Fake fans remained because they never watched anyway, what do they know about how much streams were hurt by all the menhera arc? Antis also remained because antis are more dedicated than the most dedicated fan.
Stuff that never gets discussed because the loudest voices are the ones who watch the least hurt them more than any of the things that do get discussed. Whenever people talk about Vesper the first image that comes to my mind is him leaving Axel alone in a full gen collab while being in Japan because he was having a woman moment.
Holostars EN never recovered from Magni and Vesper throwing their diva tantrums. And it never will.
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>>110847809
Are you face blind? Those are two different guys.
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>>110848986
Ok but like I’m gonna take Magni’s side here: I think he was a legit good hire. Dude was not a sex pest, was legit bi and did BFE Fujo stuff and was genuinely entertaining. Did I want him collaring with my oshi? No, but he wasn’t far the least offensive one there
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>>110847853
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>>110849002
This is a Kensama anti samefagging, don't believe his lies.
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>>110848986
He had huge noombahs at the time and looked like he'd be a creatividad streamer so I can see why they wanted to take a chance on him. Menhera arc aside him and Vesper did get huge CCVs in their heydays even if watching a few VODs I felt Magni kinda wasn't that great of a streamer
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I forgot to mention

>>110848471
>I have the privilege of interacting with them, and you're just there, a bystander, looking at all of this, crying, seething and coping
Well this isn't fully wrong but -even if he was referring solely to antis here with the seething and coping bit- it certainly... wasn't phrased in the bestest of ways. It doesn't bother me, but then again very few things do nowadays. I suppose that being a big entertainer is recognizing that the wider public is going to have their jimmies rustled by things that are probably not really that big of a deal in the end of the day even if they're presented in an horrible way.
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>>110848988
Jurrad is a fucking narcissistic retard but I don't really see doing anything besides spewing out baseless bravado cuz he knows it's pisses the average /vt/ poster
All accounts show that Vesper and Fauna already knew each other prior to Holo, so idk how a consensual relationship between two adults can be framed as being sexpest (especially if nobody would've even known if Nimi didn't come out publicly about it lol)
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>>110847911
>bullies
How is the retard dino bullying you? lmao
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>>110848988
I never really watched Fauna so this thread is how I found out about the Vesper shit lmao, that explains why both Saba and Dooby cut off Nimi and haven't acknowledged her since lmao. How the fuck does Nimi still have unicorns??
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I warned the board about Vesper before he even debuted and I'm mad that everyone called me a jealous anti. He was always this bad and it wasn't a surprise, he was before he was Vesper as well. /vt/ is fucking terrible at judging people.
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>>110849136
>already knew each other prior to Holo
Wait really? That does change everything actually. Huh...
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>>110845340
>if they can make this last.
Kek, you expect too much from them. These are members who abandoned meeting because they have no desire to grow. I can guarantee you they will only do those gimmicks for a few times and then go back to their usual habits.
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>>110849210
I really really doubt Vesper managed to bag Fauna in just a year, enough for her to quit her job and just immediately decide she wanted babies with this dude. Sounds to me like they were dating and she was his in with Cover (maybe she even hid their relationship from them) but then he realized the job sucked so dipped.
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>>110849255
>Wait really?
Yeah, her roommate's account one of the first ever people to buy a Twitch sub on his channel lmfao
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>>110848754
Sisters hate him, Flips love him and self insert as him or as his little brother.
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>>110847917
The Chinese girl is a white monkey they can gawk at and make fun of like a novelty. The Japanese guy speaking English and being raised in Australia is a traitor to their nation.
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>>110849288
I don't care about him dating Fauna. I care about him sinking the branch. He was already popular on /vt/ prior to holostars but he was always blatantly a fake wholesome asshole who used people for his own gain.
Like his whole identity was as this self made indie man who proved that guys could make it with hard work but you followed his channel for long enough and you could see that he was a giga leech that paid for a lot of advantages.
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>>110848471
Regardless of what he was aiming at with his gloating, it's the fact that his behavior in that situation was outrageously and disgustingly unprofessional. Extremely immature for an adult man.
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>>110841253
Reasonable. You lose your corporate job, you're feel some type of way.



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