As the days pass by, it is proven that everything that Connor said about Hololive is true. And I'm tired of pretending that he wasn't right. It is clear now that is was right all along.
>>112976625They hated Connor because he spoke the truth
>>112976625Growing up is realizing that Connor was right.
Was he right about VShojo?
>>112976854Kinda, he only ever cared about Mouse, not Vshojo
>>112976854Yes, he told mouse a million of times to jump off but she was like "what will happen with the girls if i leave". Apparently she wanted since 2023 but kept pushing it.Imagine pushing your top talent so much that she wants to leave. lol
>>112976625>>112976713>>112976719What made you all switch views?
>>112976625Literally nothing Connor and Joey say wasn't wrong. Blue Dorito is a very powerful jump-start.Holonigs boast about it all the time yet get offended when an outsider point it out.
>>112977094Most of the hate against him came from the incels inside the fanbase mad because he used to easily collab with every single talent. Nowadays he mostly interact with indies and mouse and avoid any corpo stuff.
>>112976625Sources where's? Surely nobody on 4chan wouldn't lie and claiming something without proof unlike reddit
>>112976625Didn't he basically just say that joining Hololive made any vtuber they picked way more popular than they ever would be on their own, so an individual Holo's popularity was often more reflective of brand power than an audience they gained from being exceptionally talented?
>>112977197newfag
>>112976972The current state of Hololive
>>112977197Holy newfag
>>112976972Justice >>112977197>t. Adventkiddie
Holo fans always always always oshi the company. They're there for the garden, not the flowers, which come and go with the seasons. None of this is new.
>>112977252yet it was like the 9/11 for holofags back in the day. Devolved into the money for condoms superchat
>>112977197How new are you?
>>112977197bro is really asking for the source of one most well know and baited dramas in the history of /vt/. Who the fuck let this newfags comment without lurking anymore?
>>112976625Ok Connor. This sounds exactly like something you would write.
>>112977534Ture, but is he wrong though? I think not
>>112977197kys newfag
>>112977592lol, the last waves just proved that holo can get a piece of the shit on the side of the road give it a model and retards will still watch. Some of these girls doesn't deserve half of the viewers they get but that's how corpos work.
>>112977205>>112977236>>112977246>>112977387>>112977521>>112977844I like how none of you prove his/her point. Also, im probably not the same person your replying to *wink*
>>112977932
>>112976625Well yeah, but he's British so...
>>112977932^the raped
>>112977932Retard
>>112977932^buckbroken
>>112977867Brand loyalty is a powerful thing
Is this thread just one person samefagging and arguing with himself?
>>112977867>waves
>>112979251Yes, and you need to stop!
>>112976625Conner is a lil bitch, who cries all the time
>>112979251>everything i don't like is a samefag Get some thicker skin, pussy
>>112979299Is he wrong? Are raora or shiori really that "talented"?
>>112979251no obviously *wink*
it's impossible to samefag, like surely somebody can't use a different cellphone, computer and a tablet with different ip/vpn turn on. Surely saying a very obvious bait and replaying to myself isn't schizo behavior
>>112977197>>112977932fine. here's the entire fucking connor timeline.>Mori collabs with Trash Taste peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIU0xG-lXkQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QspNrKphM>host of TT named Connor says in Ironmouse's stream that holo talents will always see "instant success" regardless of whether or not they're "good streamers">Ironmouse had this to say in response: "Uhhhhhhh I think we should change the subject"https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4>a member in Mori's stream sends a $100 red superchat politely asking her to stop associating with people like Connor>"You are basically saying that you agree with Connor that most hololive members are talentless"https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png>Mori did not take this lightly>Mori: "Why'd you send me this much money to say this? Why are you a member?">Mori: "Thanks for the cash dude though, I guess.">Mori: "He [Connor] personally apologized to me and actually every single member of EN."http://web.archive.org/web/20220124010716/https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4>Kiara: "I am not in contact with the Trash Taste people"http://web.archive.org/web/20220124003218/https://streamable.com/5a8uq2>Mori donates 50 subs to Connor on her new hololive Twitch accounthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM>a member in Mori's stream sends a $250 red superchat politely asking her to keep associating with people like Connor>"condom money for Conner"http://web.archive.org/web/20220119022227/https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html>Mori announces "I won't be reading all akasupas based on my discretion"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM>a few days later she responds to and compliments a 6 day old tweet of a comic of Mori getting fucked by Connor while a Deadbeat cries>"I like the composition, and the purple on the chest is an interesting artistic touch! I'm also a big fan of the Dead Beat's expression as well, there's a good deal of complex emotions you've portrayed very well here and I'm all for it."http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924>this gets posted to the Hololive subreddit to much confusion and concern>Mori herself replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."http://web.archive.org/web/20220123053443/https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png>Mori gets downvoted>someone asks why she did it. she admits she's drunkhttps://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg>shortly after she deletes it and apologizes and announces breakhttps://web.archive.org/web/20220123064719/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640>"For context, I hit the lean hard after the stream and caused a fuss where I shouldn’t have"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)>"Lean or purple drank ... is a polysubstance drink used as a recreational drug. It is prepared by mixing prescription-grade cough or cold syrup containing an opioid drug and an antihistamine drug with a soft drink and sometimes hard candy.">basically admits drug use, in Japan, on her corporate account>more damage control a bit laterhttps://files.catbox.moe/t7oy6q.png>"just hit the drankies... I need to learn the actually meaning of some of these new age words lmao">that very same day, Connor tweets "easy W"https://web.archive.org/web/20220123071557/https://twitter.com/CDawgVA/status/1485137798512652288i hate spoonfeeding lazy niggers. but everyone was new once. so to you and the other newfags reading this: 4chan archives exist, and they exist for a reason. they've been archiving these posts since before you were born. USE THEM.
>>112980074HoloEN was a mistake
surely the person samefag obviously couldn't be lying and hoping for random newfag to fall for easy (you)
>>112980074watching the entire cuckbeat arc unfold made me feel like I was on lean myself
>>112980187It's not samefagging. The Connor poster was in /#/ earlier and he had a lot of anons agree with him.
>>112979818Yes?Raora is a great artist that has been incredibly important to Vtubing in the past and Shiori not only is one of the pioneers of EN vtubing, but is also a musician.
>>112980187I know Right *wink*
He knew. (You) didn't listen.
>>112980342they were both killing themselves to keep 3 viewers stats, come on anon, don't delude yourself. Getting in blue doritos is instant success, doesn't matter what you were or did before.
>>112980331I agree too and I sincerely am telling you that anon obviously isn't me reading /#/ on different devices and replaying to myself another device reply to that me
>>112980417You asked if they were talented and I answered.No need to move goalposts.
Holostars prove having the blue dorito means jack shit
>>112980472i'm not moving the goalpost i asked if they were talented enough to justify they new status. Pink dogo once had a meltdown telling chat she was studying and trying to improve to be a better stream but she still could not even get to 1k by herself and now she is doing 5 times it by doing basically the same thing she did but WAY less art streams.
>>112980522to be fair they are bigger than most of male vtubers out there.
>>112976968Fanfic lmao she knew about the charity fraud
>>112980523And that has absolutely nothing to do with talent and everything to do with exposure.If "holodrones will watch anything with a blue dorito" were a true statement, every single person within Hololive and Holostars would be a permanent 5view, which we know for a fact is not true.Instead all that happens is the people that get in get more exposure, and this get an easier time find new fans compared to an indie that has to advertise themselves among a million other indies.
>>112980398Based Welsh GOD
>>112980560take your meds and a nap
>>112980398I will admit that he was right, but I still hate this faggot
>>112980074A classic
>>112980074kino
>>112980074To be fair it was more of a kiara fanning the flames drama than what connor said. He was right at the end
>>112977211>>112977246>mythshart
>>112980074There's a place where useful threads are kept or something? Bc I definitely wouldn't feel like combing through a bunch of schizo posts and random shitposts just to find a morsel of context for X thing about certain Vtubers.
>>112976625He was literally always right about Hololive, it's just that nearly everyone (including, I suspect, OP) misunderstood what he actually said.
>>112981487if you are a newfag you lurk, you don't post... This is one of the greatest hit of /vt/ and you had never heard of it, that tells us a lot
>>112981487RedditSurely, i'm not the same person your replying to and also the samefag that also on a different devices in /#/ *wink*
>>112981559to any of newfag that just reading this, how many post were samefag in this thread and how many are genuine post from different anon, guess.*wink*
>>112981651You're kinda cringe, ngl
bro got so mad about being called newfag he is now spiraling.
>>112980074>fine. here's the entire fucking connor timeline.>>Mori collabs with Trash Taste people>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIU0xG-lXkQ [Embed]>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QspNrKphM [Embed]>>host of TT named Connor says in Ironmouse's stream that holo talents will always see "instant success" regardless of whether or not they're "good streamers">>Ironmouse had this to say in response: "Uhhhhhhh I think we should change the subject">https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4>>a member in Mori's stream sends a $100 red superchat politely asking her to stop associating with people like Connor>>"You are basically saying that you agree with Connor that most hololive members are talentless">https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png>>Mori did not take this lightly>>Mori: "Why'd you send me this much money to say this? Why are you a member?">>Mori: "Thanks for the cash dude though, I guess.">>Mori: "He [Connor] personally apologized to me and actually every single member of EN.">http://web.archive.org/web/20220124010716/https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4>>Kiara: "I am not in contact with the Trash Taste people">http://web.archive.org/web/20220124003218/https://streamable.com/5a8uq2>>Mori donates 50 subs to Connor on her new hololive Twitch account>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM [Embed]>>a member in Mori's stream sends a $250 red superchat politely asking her to keep associating with people like Connor>>"condom money for Conner">http://web.archive.org/web/20220119022227/https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html>>Mori announces "I won't be reading all akasupas based on my discretion">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM [Embed]>>a few days later she responds to and compliments a 6 day old tweet of a comic of Mori getting fucked by Connor while a Deadbeat cries>>"I like the composition, and the purple on the chest is an interesting artistic touch! I'm also a big fan of the Dead Beat's expression as well, there's a good deal of complex emotions you've portrayed very well here and I'm all for it.">http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924>>this gets posted to the Hololive subreddit to much confusion and concern>>Mori herself replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please.">http://web.archive.org/web/20220123053443/https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/>https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png>>Mori gets downvoted>>someone asks why she did it. she admits she's drunk>https://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg>>shortly after she deletes it and apologizes and announces break>https://web.archive.org/web/20220123064719/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640>>"For context, I hit the lean hard after the stream and caused a fuss where I shouldn’t have">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)>>"Lean or purple drank ... is a polysubstance drink used as a recreational drug. It is prepared by mixing prescription-grade cough or cold syrup containing an opioid drug and an antihistamine drug with a soft drink and sometimes hard candy.">>basically admits drug use, in Japan, on her corporate account>>more damage control a bit later>https://files.catbox.moe/t7oy6q.png>>"just hit the drankies... I need to learn the actually meaning of some of these new age words lmao">>that very same day, Connor tweets "easy W">https://web.archive.org/web/20220123071557/https://twitter.com/CDawgVA/status/1485137798512652288>i hate spoonfeeding lazy niggers. but everyone was new once. so to you and the other newfags reading this: 4chan archives exist, and they exist for a reason. they've been archiving these posts since before you were born. USE THEM.What does like 3/4ths of the shit here do what that anon asked?You got asked "what was his opinion" and posted a deluged textual diarrhea (with clips included!) without actually answering shit lol
connor is based
>>112981546Not a newfag I just don't gaf about EN or ID so I'm completely unfamiliar with everything that's got to do with those ones, I'm pretty much just snooping around here cuz am bored at work rn. I stick with JP and only keep up with my faves pretty much.
someone post connor watching the streamers traumatize mouse
>>112981837anon... Just lurk next time, lol. If you were here back when it happened you would know, even people who doesn't give a fuck to holo, connor, ironmouse or anyone involved KNOWS. It wasn't something small, to this day retards make jokes about money for condoms.
>>112981854the sea people is coming out of their huts.
>>112981904and you're throwing stones through your glass house you ESL retard
>>112980074This was a fun and insane time, pre Cover going public and EN wasn't as big and squeaky clean corporate. Though on the other hand I am glad Mori has matured since then.
>>112981932not Esl calling other ESL and isn't different anon that samefagging on different devices kek
